Evaluating the MORMON’s list of STOCKPILED FOOD
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- The Mormon Church is known for stockpiling. This video is dedicated to their list of foods to stockpile and evaluate if it’s a good fit for a collapse.
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The Mormons is the reason I got into prepping. We would go visit relatives out west every year. One yr they took us to Utah and I saw a local newspaper and the main headline was talking about how Mormons stock. When we got home Me and my siblings all began stocking and prepping. That was in the 90s.
I am LDS and I have my food storage. Lots of it. We have been told PREPARE TO SHARE.
Yes! What a beautiful goal! LDS seem to have a generous community support system and THAT is admirable.
When I was growing up, the same church told us to let them knock on the door and it was too bad they weren’t prepared, just like the 10 virgins. My how times have changed.
I store plenty for my family AND I have a plan to help the neighbors:
I buy #10 cans of Augason Farms beef and chicken bouillon and dried minced onion to make soup. I dehydrate huge bags of mixed vegetables, store legumes like lentils, beans, split peas. Rather than feed everyone at my door I’ll organize a soup and bread line for those in need. I live in a Mormon community so when I say “organize” I’m planning to involve all who have extra. A word about the stored grains: one can grow new crops.
I am LDS and lived in Utah my whole life, brought up always having food storage on hand. As far as the fruits and vegetables are concerned the Mormon community teaches canning. Fruits and vegetables are mostly done through canning. In my family, we have always canned and also bought canned fruits and veggies as well. Even though that is the list the LDS church may officially post, it is well known in our community to also have lots of fruits and vegetables either through canning or through purchased canned items. Also, the community is HUGE into gardening and grow a lot of their own fruits and vegetables.
One more thing I forgot to add, the grain is also to be used for sprouting.
You are deceived. You have time to get out of this cult. Have you read the history of the Mormon church? You need to. I pray that you wake up to what has been done to you by this cult.
In addition whole grains mixed together with legumes create a complete protein. A bowl of chili with a slice of whole wheat bread has all of the amino acids within the meal. Either of this with milk is also a complete protein.
@@annadavis2547 yes, they are a complete protein but complete in all nutrients. You might want to run a comparison between the nutrients in beans and rice and the RDAs… and add choline and taurine.
When my wheat gets old I buy more and give the old stuff to the chickens. I mix it half and half with their scratch and the soak and ferment…very healthy chickens!
Do you think LDS will be robbed since everyone knows of your stockpile? What are your thoughts on this?
My Mormon list includes meat, eggs, fruits and veggies. I'm with Appalachia's Homestead on this. We need to encourage people to prepare even if they prepare differently than we do.
Exactly
agreed. He is giving alternatives. However, people are now upset that his ideas are not the pet standard room full of grains and a wheat grinder. It is OK for him, and me, and many others to store in their pantries food that brings health, not just calories.
Also people need to think of INGREDIENTS needed not just ready made. How many people KNOW HOW TO BAKE. Like when camping , in a Dutch oven. And the difference between using a jiffy mix and making from SCRATCH. And alternatively flours and how to use them. wheat is a priority grain but is about to run out in some areas. And be very expensive when you can get it. Look up gluten free grains and American Indian cooking. LEARN TO COOK FROM SCRATCH OR GIVE UP BREAD.
@@cynthiarothrock4255 Yes and remember that you can make acorn flour if you know how.
I am LDS and have had various versions of our food storage over the past 30 years. I believe the starting phase should be modest stockpiles of what you use most often in your food plans right now. So for example if you have spaghetti with meat sauce once a week.....Store a year's worth of spaghetti, spaghetti sauce, and hamburger. If you have roast chicken weekly...store 52 whole chickens or have 50 chickens in your coop :)
Let your food storage reflect your actual usage. Then after that is in place look for emergency power to keep the freezer going, the CPAP working and the water flowing. As someone who has lived on their food storage for a year during a period of unemployment having some sugar for baking brownies is a very nice thing. I would discourage those 50-year food storage kits....I have some 30-year-old cheese powder that will never get eaten. :)
Thank you for sharing! I’ve never met a Mormon that wasn’t prepared for anything. My father is a Mormon and born in 1925, he’s very conservative and prepared for anything even at his age! I really enjoy your videos. Mormon’s are also super giving people ❤️
I have met thousands of Mormons that are not prepared and never will be.
@@Caroline.123 thanks for sharing.
I grew up as a mormon, I'm a prepper and have been most of my life I probably have 2000 lbs of grains along. If someone is sent to my door hungry I will feed them. As long as you feed others the lord will always make sure you eat. God bless from Arkansas, The buckel of the bible belt.
This list is for very LONG TERM storage. I think you missed the part where they say to have this and THEN all the other things. Grains and dried beans will last a very long time and be there if you need them. Yes, it's important to have all the other things too.
I'm a low carb guy, but when times are hard, all diets go out the window.
Me too..
Me too! I'm on the keto diet.
I ate my survival food stash under
Covid 19 shutdown
I got sick by eating it
I'm used to fresh fruits and vegetables 😋
Be prepared
It's going to be really hard to stay healthy. Will need tons of fat stored in our bodies to keep a float during harsh freezing winters to come. Presumably, People living near rivers and ocean can get fish or seafood, seaweeds, but otherwise my plan to keep living as keto and macrobiotic won't work during war and famine.
hey men when in times of hard times you think aboit calories carb protien? 😂😂😂😂 you just eat of what you have,atkeast they have a plan and list unlike with others no plan no list
My impression of this supply list has always been the BASE of what a person needs to survive & economically reachable by most. Dry beans are WAY cheaper then canned and take up much less space in storage. Also depending on sources (grain and beans) some can be planted to grow more! For anyone considering this - make sure you buy your oats, barley, wheat etc from a seed grain farmer as they don't spray their crops with desiccants (ex. round up) that makes them unable to grow. Remember when this list was originally made - everyone had chickens, cows or pigs, and huge family gardens for veggies etc so this was the basic list that supplemented what they were producing on their own. Fruit...well in my neck of the woods - grown naturally would be in season apples, raspberries, strawberries, haskaps (new intro), saskatoons... We can't grow pit fruits, nuts etc here! So yes, some dried or canned fruit is great - but realize how many generations of people have survived without - much longer then a year. Mom (86) was saying the other day that the first orange of the year was the one in Christmas stocking, when I was a kid 50+ the first nectarine of the year was in toe of stocking! So not that long ago.... people did not have the equivalent of a can of fruit a day and were perfectly fine. I'm trying to think 'the ways of our forefathers' vs modern day expectations of how things are going to be sustained at todays levels...
Agreed! Also like you said we are talking about survival.... Not feasting. In a survival situation it's about needs... Not wants.
I don’t know why he didn’t ‘get’ that those are the “Basics to Food Storage”. I don’t think most of the members of the mormon church have the bare minimum storage from what I have heard. It is overwhelming to those that are just now awakening, God Bless!
@@laurenandreas5950 yes. I understand it is around 2% who have the recommended two year supply. Would be interesting to know if that’s higher than the US population as a whole - I suspect it is. Or was before Jan of 2020
He read basic but doesn’t seem to understand what that means. Homes where people cook from scratch, seldom have sweets, and don’t have processed foods have a far better understanding of what will be needed in a true emergency. I’d never opt for butter over olive oil, for instance, if I was choosing just one. People with medical training shouldn’t hold themselves out as nutritionists.
The test of whether you are prepared is to eat for a month from what you have right now. If at the end of the month you’ve continued eating as you were before the month and you have twelve times that food on hand you are prepared for a year. If you can’t or don’t, you have some work to do.
But as you point out, that’s not the point of the list.
Cheers!
@@jillysponges true. Nutritionally dense foods are so important.
As an Asian person. I can say... we go through 100 lbs of rice in 2-3 months. That's 2 adults, one teen, and two kids under 6. Rice is one of our main stock up food. Currently have 100 lbs stock for 20+ years and 100 lbs for under 1 year. I will definitely need another 100 lbs of rice for what's coming down the pipeline.
I have 250lbs and started prepping about three years ago and rice has doubled in price in that time 🤷🤷
@@elizabethgregory6364 yes. Prices have soared. I always buy rice at local Asian grocery market. 100lbs use to be under $60. They are currently right under $80 for the same bag of rice.
Rice at Walmart is still cheap, less then $9 for 20lb. Since white rice doesn't go bad and is extremely cheap in the US I have stored many hundreds.
@@greentree_ there's only one brand rice that I would prefer over everything else and Walmart doesn't have them. Hence the reason why I purchase my rice through local Asian grocery store.
@@kongvue5160 What brands do you suggest? I love rice and there are lots of Asian grocery stores near me.
The Mormon and Amish are famers so have their own Meat, Milk, Eggs, Cheese etc. plus they are HARD working people and need the carb energy, as for the flour keep in mind they bake every day. I live in a Amish area and they use our phone when needed, believe me they are very healthy people.
I agree with the Amish but not the Mormons. I know quite a few Mormons and they do not work any harder than the rest of us and they do not garden or farm. They work at jobs in schools, offices and such. In fact my Mormon friends don’t prep at all.
Amish and Mormon, are very different. The Amish keep the old ways, the Mormons that I grew up with, did not.
I can believe it they have it right.none if these additives chemicals this government allow in the public's foods it's disgrafull.well done the Amish !!!!
@@doodletoot7225 Opp’s I meant to say (Mennonites) not Morons, you are right about the Morons working.
I use to be a Mormon and that list has been the same forever. I think they need to update. All the Mormon families I knew had canned veggies and fruits. They do what everyone does when they prep.
I am not LDS, but I live in an LDS community. This is a base list. LDS are encouraged to garden and can. They encouraged to hunt and raise chickens.Grind hard wheat for bread, or sprout it. Gather herbs. My mother in law’s 600 jar pantry was a sight to behold.
Things on the list are easily gathered in bulk- easily distributed. If processed correctly they provide more then much needed carbs in a survival mode- vitamins and minerals.
Yes, your list is healthier for you, but harder to gather. Most of the newer freeze dried companies are owned by Church members….Honeyville, Thrive. Most LDS owned grocery chains have “case lot” sales once a year with mostly proteins, fruits and veggie on sale. Yesterday I bought six cans of chicken for $15. And 5 lbs of wheat berries from the LDS cannery for $6.50. A base.
Exactly! Auguson Farms is also owned by an LDS family here in Utah.
MORMONS AND AMISH ARE NOT PREPPERS!
This is just how they live. It is their lifestyle.
I think the provident preppers mentioned the LDS recommendations as well, and they mentioned that these are survival rations and a list purely for survival.
Remember this list is for a worldwide membership. Many countries do not have the same access to canned fruits and vegetables as Americans do, and rely on fresh from home gardens in season. This list is to sustain life, and grains and rice feed most of the world population. It’s a starting point, focusing on quantities needed per person. Never meant as a full diet. Their canneries offer carrots, onions, dried apples and other items to supplement. They also have volumes of information on water storage, gardening, homesteading all focused on provident living and learning skills. I think you missed the point.
Many people in some areas of the world, traditionally preserve vegetables by fermenting. Think of sauerkraut and also Korean kimchi.
Both are excellent healthy ways to complement any given diet.
As a Mormon I will add that we are encouraged to be able to help our close neighbors where possible. It is best to encourage all to be self sustaining and prepared, but we recognize there maybe elderly neighbors or small children who will be in need. Yes, I know it goes against shtf ideas of cashing away food for ourselves (which is vital), but to be able to help those close family and friends who may not have the means or ability to care for themselves becomes important in Christian thinking. HOW we survive is as important if not more so than IF we survive. Besides, Excesses can be good for both sharing and bartering if needed. Just my opinion, not official church doctrine. And by the way… your videos and info are really great!
You are really sweet thinking of helping others but everything you give away will reduce your families survival time. People have been warned for quite a few years…if not longer…to prepare. You need to take care of your ‘immediate’ family. That is wife, husband & kids! The others should have been preparing on their own. Everyone can afford Rice & Beans!!!!! They are just too lazy!!!
Helping each other. If you do then I believe god will protect you.
@@alindalt2897 …Are you replying to people have been warned…or they are on their own and take care of your family?
What? I am saying that you are only responsible for your ‘immediate’ family! So, I am prepared to take care of them. Everyone else is on their own including friends, relatives and others that have had the money but just didn’t think it was important to prepare! I put a lot of time and energy to prep like I do! Of course I don’t know how it would feel to turn them away, but I’m trying to harden my heart toward them if it means my immediate family would parish. People have not been poor enough in this country that they couldn’t put back the basics, so don’t be a bleeding heart! The LDS church has a very low percentage of people who are actually preparing even though it is in their (doctrine)? I’m not LDS but I have friends that sadly tell me that. I pray that we all are fine but if not, I’m not going to let my family do without by giving what I’ve been putting up for years to them! Especially those that KNOW and do nothing. The Bible tells us to prepare so why aren’t we all doing it??? People either don’t believe or they are expecting others to do it for them…hence the government food stamps? People expect to be taken care of. I don’t think we can expect ‘manna from heaven’ if we give up our supplies!!! We will have to make awful decisions! This is not a game!
@@laurenandreas5950 let’s hope it never comes to such a decision but if it does we must each decide for ourselves how we will handle it. And that’s ok. I guess the best solution would be to get your neighbors to understand the need to prepare for themselves. They may not yet have the understanding you have… therefor, if you are a Christian, you are commanded to warn your neighbors in all things that will bless and benefit them. That’s an ongoing process not a one time event. So to each his or her own interpretation. As for me, if there are small children left on their own or elderly in need, I’ll help where I can. But that’s me. You do you.
Remember they said to BEGIN with this basic list, and then add in other things. They didn't say just store this. Not all grains are bad for you, so remember that as well. It's not like they said store 400 lbs of white flour. Whole grains can be used to stretch a soup from a thin broth based light soup to a hearty meal, whether it be wheat berries, rice, oats, pasta, or barley. They will fill you up better than a can of meat will. These grains are SURVIVAL foods that store well.
A bowl of rice and beans fills me much better than a small can of meat, no fiber in meat and more expensive.
Salt is a HUGE multitasker. Wound care, cleaning, preserving, eating. Just have a varied long term pantry.
Totally agree...I have lots put away.
So how much salt would you recommend?
How much salt? We'll it depends on if you know how to use it. I preserve meat and use it in canning .. I would say 25-35 lb for me and my hubby.. And our lifestyle. And how long do you think the shutdown will last.. If you think it is permanent then you better save up all you can...
Please don't be too critical of the food list suggested. That list is meant to be the bare bones to prevent starvation when you don't have access to food. And it is the most affordable for all the members rich and poor. You read it yourself at the start of the video, if members can afford adding more to this list, go ahead, but everyone should have at least that list. And we can share with others too.
Personally, I have actually more than that amount of grains and beans (I want to be able to share if needed, charity is big in the Church), and I also have canned foods, including meat, and a few extra other things.
I am a biochemist and I just did the protein and calorie calculations on all this and it comes out to exactly what a human needs in protein and calories per day, AND it used the cheapest foods to get there. Here's the breakdown of what each provides per day:
1. 400lbs grains: 61.37g protein, and 964 calories
2. 60 lbs of legumes: 21.37g protein and 235 calories
3. 16 lbs low fat dry Milk: 2.3g protein and 26 calories
4. 10 qts Oil: 210 calories
5. 60lbs Sugar: 236 calories
Grand total: ~85 grams protein and ~1700 calories
That's almost twice the protein requirements for a 150 lbs adult, and adequate calories for maintenance. Not only that, the thing that amazes me about their food choices is that they CAREFULLY considered making certain the protein was complete and that they'd have no amino acid deficiencies. Grains and legumes alone are not complete proteins but TOGETHER they complete each other. They also included oil for much needed essential fats and the milk for calcium
I am going to politely disagree with you on carbs not being needed in a survival situation. It is true that carbs are not needed to survive, because our body makes its own carbs via gluconeogenesis and fats are turned into ketones for a second source of energy via beta oxydation BUT it does all this begrudgingly, AND beta oxydation is a very INEFFICIENT metabolic pathway, meaning it wastes calories. So our body makes its own glucose and uses fat for energy at metabolic energy costs. You will need more food to get the same energy benefits that is why low carb diets are GREAT for trying to lose weight, bc those diets waste calories.
But in a survival situation you want your body to run at PEAK EFFICIENCY and to use EVERY SINGLE CALORIE it takes in. A low carb diet will NOT allow that. You DO want carbs in a survival situation so that your body won't have to USE ENERGY TO MAKE ENERGY, PLUS high carb foods are cheap. And WE WANT CHEAP
So I am going to disagree and say I agree with whomever figured this out for the Mormons. They did a biochemically and AMAZINGLY perfect job. It encompasses peak efficient metabolism at the lowest cost possible, PLUS included oils and perfect proteins.
This is what I'd do if I had the space to store it.
I disagree completely. But you do you.
I agree. I don’t think he fully understood the reasoning to their list.
I agree. And if you have been around in the prepper community for very long, you would know that it's not a bad list at all. I am not a Mormon and felt a little offended by the attitude. I don't believe it was meant to be offensive. But it kinda was.
Great post! You can make space… put it under your bed or something.
Thank you for your high praise. Thank you for your efforts in calculations and offering your sound opinion.
These LDS recommendations are for emergency survival. Grains, pasta, rice are very easy to preserve long term. I think the LDS assumes that, if possible, everyone will either be growing or buying fresh vegetables and fruit if they are available. This list is a “better than nothing” and “will keep you alive” list. We are free to also stockpile other “essentials” such as preserved meats, herbs, snacks and treats for ourselves and our kids. The only item that I question is the two week water ration. 🌵In our current drought-like situation in the Western US, I would think that people should stock up all the water they can. Both sugar and honey also have medicinal uses and are great barter items. I think this LDS list is a very reasonable starting point. Love this channel by the way.
@@heidibrown2357 I have stored the Mormon way for decades… and researched for decades. Actually, he is spot on.
I store nutrient dense. Whole food Meats, nuts, seeds, vegetables, fruits, healthy fats, sprouting seeds, garden seeds, I do have some lentils and some corn. Zero wheat. No sugar. A couple pounds of honey.,
And how old is that list?
@@heidibrown2357 yup good call
Their meat is usually on the hoof. No need to store it
@@lindamcneil711 Hearing that you have stored this way for years, makes me happy to hear, how has the rotation of foods been and do you have a meal plan and list of things to help those of us that struggle with organization or ideas to help me, thanks in advance.
When people go to the extreme on limiting salt, they can actually have seizures. People need to have some common sense.
Common sense is actually rather uncommon these days.
Salt also never goes bad, not ever. Despite of a completely stupid date on packaging. Salt when mined, is millions of years old....
People cooking their own foods at home from simple basic ingredients are very unlikely to be eating too much salt.
It's all the convenience food, the prepared foods, that are the big problem.
Every human cell has "sodium gates," which, when deprived of salt, collapse - hence the seizures of which you speak. Yes. We ALL need salt - even animals.
@@graveseeker No- That wasn't a criticism! I merely pointed out that many people are so afraid of salt that they avoid it in the extreme, and we do need 'some' salt to live.g
Here’s my list that doesn’t include meats.
Sugar - 240 pounds - 8 Buckets
Flour - 450 pounds - 15 Buckets
Salt - 200 pounds - 4 Buckets
Oats - 120 pounds - 6 Buckets
Rice - 200 pounds - 5 Buckets
Beans - 180 pounds - 6 Buckets
I know I have a lot of carbs, but a freshly baked loaf of bread would trade very nicely. The salt is great for curing meat.
The marauders will steal your trade.
@@arahant69 no, they won’t...
@@ryanlaabs6034 😎
@@blazinggazelle6957 I have hundreds of cans of fruit, over 100 pounds of freeze dried meats, 120 pounds of pemmican, and thousands of pounds of wildlife on and around my land.
My group consists of the local swat team, several officers, and marines. We will survive, that I can assure you.
@@westtxmutt I welcome the attempt 🤷♂️
A Mormon told me they keep so much sugar and extra sweets to use for barter. I leave in a Mormon heavy area, and this just provides the minimum. They actually keep much more.
It depends on the family. Church statistics estimate less than 10% actually have a year supply of food storage.
@@megandrewm5450 And very few members of the church grow their own food sadly.
I think that if I was going to choose a way- I would trust the Mormons!!
I'd rather look to the Amish.
@@trueamerica Where do you get that information?
@@graveseeker Well, there's more to my preference for looking to the Amish "to choose a way" than just possible variations on the video list. As to the most basic minimal list of items to stockpile, an Amish list might not differ a whole lot. Though it's hard to say what exactly a basic survival list means. As to that, I think the Amish would include molasses (sorghum), lard, and yeast. Maybe a good bit of sourdough starter. As to a more extensive list, the Amish are "born preppers". It is intrinsic to their lifestyle, culture, and faith to can, dehydrate, cure, pickle, freeze dry, and smoke a portion of their harvests every year. So they always stockpile fruits, vegies, and meats, along with the other items. It is a way of life.
@@LittlePieceOfHeaven.65 I think the Amish tend to like a good cup of coffee. Or a nice bit of beer. ; )
@@trueamerica Is the Word of Wisdom from the Doctrine and Covenants?
You forget that they are a worldwide church. They have to cater to people who don’t have access to the shops people in the West have.
@@heidibrown2357 yup
I’d say not to change the list but rather add to it. Remember if we have a grid down situation you will need bargaining items. After your canned meat is gone what are you going to eat? You need tummy fillers. If you add breads/grains then your meat will last longer. If you have pets they can eat wheat or rice cooked in beef or chicken broth. I believe those numbers are per person. So with a large family you’d better be putting up a ton of grains…and meats…and veggies…and the list goes on and on. We’re talking survival foods here! We will NOT be eating like we do today. Oh and don’t forget vitamins. Your going to need them!!
This is a survival list. Wheat/grains can be sprouted for greens and greater nutrition, and I personally like seitan (gluten meat from wheat) as well as homemade bread. The things you covered are the LONG-TERM survival suggestions, that store indefinately (hard winter wheat) - wise if your budget is not large. In addition, they encourage gardening and growing fruit trees and to have shorter-term stocks as well that do not keep so long and are rotated - really just self-reliance should any hard times hit your family. But yes, the ones you listed are the very basics for practical reasons. If you didn't have a lot of money and happened upon truly hard enough times, you would be very glad you stored those items given they last a lifetime and used creatively can sustain life or augment whatever you are able to obtain.
I think the grains list is high on the church's list because the grains can be sprouted also. Eating sprouts takes care of your nutrients for veggies and fruits. I think I'd keep the 400 lbs. Just for survivals sake.
i think when SHTF - you won't be worried that you have "too much" of anything. Just keep prepping until you can't anymore.
You can live on rice, oats, milk, and beans for quite a long time. That is a long term 30 year list. You also have an active pantry to supplement the long term storage. Anyone that has that long term list fully covered will have a big short term 1 or 2 year active pantry as well. Canning, dehydrating, freeze drying, hunting, fishing, gardening and store bought goods are a big part of a LDS food supply. Why do you think most survival food and products come from Utah?
And we have classes to teach each other how to bottle foods, including meats. In any disaster situation, etc, caloric needs increase.
It’s amazing how many items you can make out of wheat. Even meat products out of wheat. Two weeks of water is for short term. With all the canning and gardening from your garden. We can our dry beans and other items stored. The raw product will last longer than all the canned items. Do your research and I believe you will be amazed at the good values and nutritional values.
As a Mormon I know this is only a partial list I store lb of. Dried or canned fruits and vegetables also canned meats
And it’s a bare minimum list to keep you alive, right? It’s truly minimalist.
Wheat has 40 out of the 44 essential elements you need. So that is why it is called the staff of life
That list is most likely the store bought items they have to buy. The rest they make,grow,and raise their own food. They don’t buy canned goods. They can,freeze,dehydrate, and freeze dry their own food. Most people these days rely on the store for food would buy less baking and cooking supply’s because they rather buy it then put in the work to make ,grow,raise, and process their own food.
This is exactly what I was trying to say. These are just the bulk dry goods that are usually bought in bulk for the year, the stuff not as easy to grow.
I'll trust the Mormons on this one, they have a longer history with, I'm sure, periods of starvation when they first traveled and settled in Utah. How many times have you went through a lean year, or a starvation year? Guessing none.
I find the whole comparison video pretty ridiculous!
The Mormons are not the only ones who think sustainably and prepare… it is something that has been done for centuries.
I spent 20 years living without a permanent residence or a kitchen.
I know exactly what a lean year is.
I'm stocking to the rafters as I was taught growing up. We had an acre garden , if we didn't grow it we didn't eat it.
The only religion to be persecuted by the US Govt
I am proud to say I'm a mormon. If you go back to Biblical times as of Joesph and Noah .They were told to store grains enough to last for over 3 years . We should listen to what God is telling us .Because history always seems to repeat itself .
I'm a proud "friend of Joseph Smith", lol, too. I feel pretty good about my family's food storage, and I think the Mormons are doing pretty well at trying to direct indiviuals' efforts to manage survival foods.
Amen!🙏🏻
I think the Mormans are aiming at a common goal of prepping. Likely the biggest misconception is that by prepping we will not have to adjust to loss. If there are groups, then the guy who has 2 crates of beanie weenies can trade a can for a cup of flour.
The reality is that none of us want to live in the apocalyptic world that could be tomorrow. Want to stockpile batteries, go for it. But prep something. Then if tomorrow isn't a fallout day, prep something new. I'm not mormon but I will say that at least they are prepping.
In a collapsed society, ANY FOOD is good storage!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m sure you gave the Mormon community a great laugh!!! Request one of their order sheets & you’ll understand! As for grains study up on Dr John McDougal. Also a good sized vegan calisthenics & weightlifting community.
What Mormons wouldn't stockpile, but I do.....tea, coffee, and some hard alcohol.
I need to stock up on more tea & chocolate. Vodka & rum.
Surprised no one has mentioned: vinegar, cornstarch, cream of tartar, baking soda, powdered eggs (for baking), cocoa, spices & herbs, BULGAR, kelp/bladderwrack supplements for iodine, potassium chloride, canning salt.
@@jeromehenry4484 I think it's supposed to be a bare minimal list as recommended by the Mormon Church. There are a lot of good suggestions through the threads. But I'm noticing some comments and threads have been removed for some reason. As for me, I would look to the Amish as the best for prepping or preparing food for long storage. I watched this video to see if there was anything new to add to a prepping list that I didn't already have. (There wasn't.) All of the things you mention are good ideas as part of a more complete list.
Carbs are great when you have tons of physical work to do.
I'm at 2000 pounds of grains . I'll keep doing things my way . Your estimate are way low .
Since the Mormons (LDS) have been doing this for hundreds of years, including the long march across the desert, I’m thinking it would be a good idea to listen to them. As the instructions state, get your carbs first then work on the more expensive items, like protein ie two pounds of freeze dried peanut butter powder (PB2) is $19.50 while two pounds of noodles is $2.50 at Walmart.
To be certain, I am not disagreeing with you. It’s cheaper and therefore easier to stockpile a lot of carbs first.
When hungry anything is better than nothing.
I did not know the Mormons were such an avid group of preppers. Very good suggestions. The wife and I love your content. Trying our best to prep also and trying to spread the word to others. Keep up the good work my friend.
Prepping is one of the tenets of their religion.
Yes, the church teaches each family to have a year's supply of food (and money), to live without debt, to raise gardens, to get education, etc. so they can be as self-reliant as possible.
Sent you an email with an updated list from the church.
Good job! Thanks!
Thanks for this analysis. I live in Europe and have just started stocking a month ago. I do have 50lbs of flour in sealed containers and 5 liters of olive oil, canned meats, fruit, veggies, spices, rice, lentils, potatoes, dried lentils and beans...will have to add honey...and keep adding to the stash all things, bit by bit. I do also have 150 gals of rainwater and several water filter/purifiers.
😊🤔 like what you have done. A couple of ideas, which you may have already thought of, of course......Avoid large bottles of olive oil. Unless you use large amounts of oil, it does go rancid before the bottle is empty. Yup, I found out it didn't last as long as I thought it would. So, if the the large bottle goes rancid, go to the smaller bottles for storage (if you finish a bottle successfully, keep that size or try the next size up. Basic, I know. But there may be some beginning cooks reading also. Important!! Use your oil to rotate your stock. Don't chance it going bad.
My first prepping video to watch of the day. This channel has become one of my favorites since I found you. Always great content.
They also do take care of their own members.Wise to prep.
You should ask a member to actually see what is stored . in a members home
He’d also be shocked at what storage instructions are available to anyone who wishes to attend storage information gatherings. Don’t need to be a member of the church for that. Too bad, he may be steering people away from seeking info in places they could greatly benefit. And yes, he’d be pretty impressed with what’s stored. We’ve even got my great, great aunts wood burning cook stove in my kitchen. Been using it all winter. Was a life saver when our heater went out. Kept us comfortable for 10 days while we arranged installation of a new one ❤️ so glad I’ve been taught well from the LDS/Mormon community.
I'm pretty sure those are just the basic staples they keep on supply..I have asked Mormon friends of mine about it before ..Also they have a regular everyday household usage and canned items .. There are members in their church that have farms/ homesteads / gardens ect where the Mormons in their church do help each other out ... Adding to the list does help a bunch for a non Mormon as they are very sufficient ...
Sheesh....damned if you do damned if you don't. If you don't prep you are crazy and now if you do we are going to critique you and rip apart the fact that you actually prepare but you're wrong. Mormons are brilliant at food storage ..those who actually do it as self sufficiency instead of prepping. We also have a health code that we live by ..this list is a starter list to get people thinking and get them started...just go to rose red homestead. She's amazing and she makes ghee...and she's Mormon! Wow 🤔
What do they do to prevent or kill bugs in the flour, beans, etc.?
Yes Rosered is awesome, and the Provident Preppers too!
@@jackieparent5027 when you bring your bags if flour or grains home toss them in the freezer for 48 hours. That will kill any microscopic eggs in there. Then bring it all back to room temperature and store in airtight containers.
This is not about criticizing. This is about optimizing survival.
Actually their list makes a lot of sense if you live rurally... No, you don't need canned meats/fruits since in some quantities, you can get them locally. However you need a lot of carbs via grains, since these require industrial production. Unlike the city people, those doing physical work love their carbs, they need them, and it's hard to produce them. Sugar is important for canning your own fruits. Like salt, it's a preservative. This mormon's list, is exactly what my grandparents would stock up if they want to survive in a small village.
You can sprout that wheat and eat the sprouts. I also make sprouted wheat flour. I have over a ton of grains in my storage for when the canned meats spoil. LOL
I'm on the farm and work my butt off, and I'd have to agree...if women in cities ate carbs like I did - they'd probably weigh 500lbs sitting at an office desk, me - I burn it off! Sugar is something that grows a few hours south of me, but not here - no way to 'resupply' if things truly terrible, so yes want lots on hand...
We made our own bread. We are also counseled to grow a garden and put up our own fruits and veggies. I used to dry apples and pears. This list is only meant as an emergency list, no more.
If you watch Wendy DeWitt video she is a Mormon women whose calling is to inspire the people of your church to have a stockpile she says that only 2% of mormon have a 3 months supply of food.
I think their thought process is that they will be growing their own fruit and veggies given there lifestyle. Their list is things they cannot grow themselves, they can a lot and that could be what the sugar is for.
Wheat can also be sprouted. That will provide a whole new level of nutrition.
But then what do you do with it? Just chop it and put it in bread?
@@americafirst9144 That is actually the best way to use it. Sprouted wheat alone tastes disgusting and feels like chewing beetles.
You can’t just say all grain are just carbs. Wheat is high in protein with 8grams per serving. Carbohydrates sustained humans forever.
Wheat kernels also contain many vitamins and minerals, lost when consuming white bleached flour.
Wheat kernels can be sprouted and in doing so, not only are fresh vitamins created, but the amount of food doubles.
I haven't been a practicing member of the church for years but to this day it still irks me when people talk about mormons when they have zero clue wtf they're talking about!
Most LDS called themselves Mormons for decades... it fell out of favor only in recent times. It amazes me that so many people in the church get so overwhelming offended by this. Remember the marketing missionary buzz from just last decade called, "I'm a Mormon?"
People need to relax a little
@@lindamcneil711 IDK what Paul os talking about i was referring to the whole Mormons stock pile food for 2 years not just a few months thing, my entire family still affectionately refer to themselves as Mormons, it has never been a derogatory term, ever.😄
The "Mormon" list he gives is just a starting point. They encourage you to add to it what your family likes and needs. They also STRONGLY ENCOURAGE it's members actually everyone to grow a garden along with fruit trees and berry bushes etc. You also need to add to your list a years supply of other types food, clothing, fuel where possible, some savings, and medical supplies. It doesn't hurt to add to your preps things you can barter with. If you have the ability and space extra for others who may be in need.
I would suggest sugar and salt are necessary for food preservation as well
Oh Mr Goshen you know I love your family! How many people watching your channel would even consider the Mormon list? Even if they did, isn't that their business. I like it better when you teach us about what you would do and not what you consider wrong with how someone else preps.
I'm mormon and lifelong prepper
I don't think the LDS grain suggestion is too out of range for us. I bake my own bread. I have flour stored. I also have 80 lbs of wheat berries stored in case I can't get flour. The sugar and honey I use in my bread. I bake bread twice a week. I was a professional baker in my working years. Cake is good. We eat oatmeal or regular cereal daily (stored in mylar). I had Mormon neighbors for years. They know how to prepare, that's for sure. I tend to follow their lead. Good topic, thanks.
Please keep in mind that LDS (mormons) are encouraged to garden fresh fruits and vegetables. They also are encouraged to learn to hunt and forage (boyscouts, young women's camp). If you are canning and making jams or pickling vegetables you do need sugar. Sugar can be used to cure meat as well.
This list is meant to be the basic of basic rations to keep on hand and to be supplemented by other means. Context is everything.
My friend, this list is a bare minimum of items that will sustain your life . This is for one person and does not include foods that you would like to have like meats and canned vegetables and fruits. IT would be worth it to seek out a local Emergency Food preparedness specialist from the LDS church in your area. It would be interesting to hear your input after reading what Brigham Young thought a proper food storage should look like 👍 Keep up the good work informing folks on how to get ready.
I know that the LDS church also encourages it's members to grow a garden, or at least used to in the past. That can definitely account for the high recommendation of sugar, to be used in fruit preservation. It also helps to account for the lack of fruits and veggies in the list. I also think that the main list is just the bare bones. They wanted to provide a list of super long lasting basics that are affordable and accessible for most people.
This is a basic life sustaining list. It is not meant to be list of everything we would use. You can always add to it once you get the basics. I think it is a great foundation list.
This is an old list. The new recommendation is to store 3 months of food you normally eat. Then add the long-term survival items.
Actually they recommend both. One is called long term, and the other short term. Less than 2% of active Church members are doing the long term as instructed. It wasn't raining when Noah build the Ark.
I’m just thinking about the 4 loaves of bread I made today,and the one cup- or half pound of honey it took in the recipe. If times were tough and you had to bake, perhaps all those seemingly excessive pounds of sugar/honey would be understood. Just my thought on that point.
I agree with most of your list. However, I keep much more salt, as it is useful for preservation and trading as well.
400 pounds of grain sounds good to me because you can use that Grain to use to attract wild game
This is a LOW cost food that will keep you from starving. Have it or not. That's up to you. Me? I would rather have something to eat than nothing.
Ate raw for 3 years. Perfect weight, perfect health, super strong all in my late 50’s. Supplemented with smoothies which had superfood. Have a garden that supplies me with fresh greens and other crops. Never ate meat, sugar or any grains while eating raw. I had no digestive problems which ties in with immunity.I now garden with grow lights in the winter and have added eating micro greens and baby greens which are more dense nutrients. Filtered water with a Berkey. I found that if I eat for my health everything looks and feels better.
And I’m Mormon♥️Love your channel
I started off with this list for decades… then I took a look at the food for nutrition. It didn’t match up. I completely overhauled my diet… went very low carb and extremely nutrient dense. We eat what we store.
I would store
FD, canned and frozen beef, lamb, chicken, pork, fish, including sardines and anchovies
FD, frozen veggies, primarily low carb cruciferous
FD and frozen berries and so,smother fruit
Nuts, good variety
Seeds, chia, sunflower, quinoa,…
Chocolates
Dairy
Pickled foods
Other vinegars
Salt
Honey, maple, monk fruit, Allulose, stevia
Oil, butter, ghee, olive oil, coconut oil, lard,
Some…
Lentils,
Basmati brown rice and wild rice
Wild rice,
Cornmeal
Rolled and stone ground oats
Some coconut flour
Spices
I do have growing seeds for sprouts, lettuce, onions, garlic, herbs… squashes…
In addition to your points, just eating grains can cause major issues. It will medically give malnutrition.
For years we also followed that list but now have branched out into many things like:
Canned meats (I have canned a lot of my own meat because freezer space is nonexistent for us now)
Home dehydrated veggies and fruit leather
Condiments
Probably more than I can think of right now, but the most important is a garden. It takes a few years to learn to successfully garden and with that comes preservation of the produce.
Yep that's pretty much where we are at
But, it just doesn't matter. The amount of people who don't or won't do it would blow your mind.
Oh, and a small flock of chickens!!!!
Maybe they base the list on having a garden, as I'm sure many of them do.
While 400 lb of grains does seem rather steep, I wouldn´t underestimate them. There are huge differences regarding nutrients within the grain spectrum. Of course it depends on what all would be classified as grains. If you count things like linseeds, spelt, buckwheat, whole grains etc. in this category, I would recommend a little more. Of course things like white rice, flour etc. are basically carbs with little nutritional value. I would also recommend things like Walnuts, pumkin seeds, pinenuts, sunflower seeds etc. I have been baking bread that includes all of these, yes the nuts as well, for a couple of years now. No one in my family is able to eat more than one slice, and it is really filling.
regarding the honey / sugar issue, raw honey is also multifunctional. We have bees, so our honey is local (which I think is important), but we have used it for everything from sore throat, burns, to badly healing wounds on our cat. Please research this first. but it worked well for us.
With regular sugar, it depends on whether or not you plan to can your own fruit, and if so, how much? As for regular consumption, it´s good for all of us to cut back. But sugar, as well as high quality salt are good preservatives I use regularly, depending on what´s in season.
Thank you so much for your videos! They are really helpful! Blessings from Germany
Protip. Sprout your wheat or other grains to replace veggies if you can't get them.
I live and Utah and decided to check out the church’s home storage center. It’s open to members and non members. It’s really fairly priced, and almost everything lasts 30+ years. It’s way cheaper than spending $2,000+ on a years supply of food through various companies. I can’t afford that for my household.
I definitely agree with your list. Way too many carbs. They also had apples, onions and carrots.
The Lord loves effort! Get started and don’t stop!
The LDS relied heavily on wheat when they were pushed out to Utah in the mid-1800's. This list is probably based on that experience. Wheat truly was the staff of life for them back then. They thrived.
Exactly why we store it.
I have lots of vitamins on hand. I realize getting them from food is ideal, but my kids are terrible about eating veggies, so I feel vitamins are better than nothing.
Us Latter Day Saints Don't eat lots of Meat due to the Word of Wisdom. That's why it's probably not on the list:). I personally have canned Meat in my storage but not tons. I find this Video a little offensive:( . I usually enjoy your videos but not this one!
That list is the their long term emergency food storage! Because it keeps for 25+ years. Their recommended year supply is food you normally eat. They promote growing your own garden, fruit trees and canning what you grow. Raising animals if you have room. You cannot keep meats and fruits and veggies for long term that is why it is in their short term 1 - 2 year storage. When the time comes and you cannot afford to go to the store (depression) or if for some reason it isn’t available to buy (famine) And your short term food storage is gone, you will be mighty happy you have that long term storage to sustain your life until hopefully you are able to get fruits and veggies and meat again. Pretty sure the people in countries who are experiencing famine and are starving would love to have these basic foods to feed their children. Which is why the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saint’s (Mormons as you refer to them) with donations of money and service from it’s members distribute these basic items to starving people around the world.
Indeed. I'm new to your channel but been prepping for about 4 years. I've always cooked and baked by scratch. In the last 2 years been Pressures Canning meats, vegs, beans, tators, saurekraut, fruit. Been making Ghee for about 5 years. But, with all that is going on in our world gotta' keep going. Thank You, stay safe and God Bless you and yours
I need to start prepping Antibiotics etc.
@Amber K
I have a great supply of antibiotics in my medicine chest. When a relative travels to Mexico I have them pick up Amoxicillin and ZPacks, which are sold over the counter there. I’ve heard people say they don’t trust antibiotics from Mexico, but I’ve had very good results!
I live in an apartment and only have space for so much. So, no to the 400 pounds of carbs as I have over 100 pounds of cat litter taking up space but hey it was a good price, is needed and never spoils.
Also I have enough Pasta , dried Potatos, Oatmeal, Cornmeal and Rice to last me for probably 2 years if not more and it is no where near 400 lbs
Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints have numerous literature/books about food storage. This channel just scratched the surface of food storage with an old list.
I do always keep a lot of sugar on hand, because it can be used to preserve fruit. For the same reason I keep a lot of salt. We use it to preserve meats and make pickles. Another food item that is very important are herbs. Herbs are good for health and add flavor to foods. Sprouting seeds are good for getting fresh greensn, when you cannot have access to any from other sources.
I as a mormon we have 2 in our home, we have chickens that lay an egg every day, (coments) if I spelled right
We keep 150lbs of rice, the list is a basic plan to go by, personal add on are supported. Not everyone is the same,
Dry fruits, hard candy, meat bullion and yes 30 pounds of quick pancake mix, my wife likes funnel cakes lol. You need happy foods too. Keep things in an normal Spirit no matter how bad it gets
Wheat and other grains make for great sprouts, which are very nutritious, supplying a lot of vitamins and minerals. I always have doubts about those who say grains are bad for us when people have survived on them for millennia. There's something else at play there.
Definitely the amount of grains. If our average population was healthy (only 12% are at this time and season) than whole grains in moderation would be helpful. However, our population is sick metabolically. The amount of grains you need to give the human body the nutrient is need would drive the body to a state of chronic hyperinsulemia and begin the cascade of disease. Look at the diseases of Egypt. This is where we get the example of grain food storage.
The list is a starting point for you to SURVIVE for a year. Many people need a starting point. The Mormon church is a worldwide church that is in most countries. You are looking at it as a posh person in the USA. They are coming from the standpoint of all people across the world, with things that are readily available and a cheaper price point. Meats and veg are nice but not affordable for everyone. I can't afford all the freeze dried this and that all of you talk about all the time. I cant afford a year supply of meat. I can afford a year supply of flour and beans. I feel like you were kinda condescending.
I’d much rather have too much grain than not enough. This is long term basics. If you had researched this you would know that the LDS church uses this as a starting point. Canned goods are added after the basics are stored.
Just curious, how much grain did the Baptists recommend? How about any other religion?
I don't know. Have they put a list out like the Mormon's did?
@@tortiecat6459 take it easy, bud. U know not what u say
Honey also goes in the fist aid stash.
Grains for making Naan, tortillas and other quick breads is so important.
Veggies and fruits are in our gardens we have been commanded to grow for the last 50 years ;)
Did you know that we really only need 2 ounces of protein a day? Wheat is not just carbs, it's 11-12% protein. If we ate minimally, wheat would supply us with all the protein and energy we needed.
Protein is way overrated. I am vegan and have not had any problem avoiding meat dairy and eggs in my diet. I can still walk around so I have plenty of protein in my body. The LDS church teaches self sufficiency in many different areas. Food storage is just just one of the self-sufficiency areas of study. I like to eat bread every day so having 400 pounds of wheat and other grains is a good thing for us. I guess if you don’t eat bread you don’t need wheat. I like cookies too, so some baking supplies are also necessary.
After reading many comments, I think that the “Store what you Eat” plan might be the best plan. God made all of us so unique, some of us thrive on meats, others thrive on grains and vegetables. I think both can be correct because both have been successful but for different people. What’s right for me might not be what’s right for you. I’m grateful for the diversity in food and I’m glad God created it all for us to enjoy!
That was very positive and well said, thank you! I agree. We all have different tastes and the Good Lord provides for us all.
That is actually a sensible way for newbies to start a food storage, by purchasing a couple extra of the things you buy day-to-day…mayo, tuna, spaghetti sauce, cold cereal. A fully stocked pantry would provide assurance when store shelves are looking thin. This method will get you through most emergencies. We’re not all getting ready for the apocalypse.
The list is very extensive in the preparedness manual and goes way beyond the items you have listed. The list you just referred to is long term items that last for decades that will sustain life in a shtf situation. That is why they recommend you start with those items. The rest of the food storage comes from your stockpile or “working pantry” the canned fruits,veggies etc. As for water, that is recommended to get you started as a bare minimum for a disaster that may occur at any minute. It,s a guide line that can be adjusted depending on what you family consumes.
Exactly this ^^ It's because these foods last for decades and can sustain life. Where meats and fats will turn rancid after decades. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints doesn't want you to just eat that basic list. They advise storing a three month supply of foods you would normally eat in addition to all those grains etc. Grains can sustain life and wheat has protein. It's meant to be eaten with other food items such as veggies, fruits, meats, etc.
Could you critique the other church's list also..oh wait, they haven't one!
This is an inexpensive starter list. It also needs to be understood that if stored properly, wheat, honey, sugar, and salt will last almost indefinitely. Canned foods (commercial or home) will last for years, but not as long as the basics listed.
If you are canning fruit, you will need way more sugar than 5 pounds, especially for making jam and jelly. We buy at least 50 pounds of sugar a year for canning a year's supply of pears, peaches, nectarines, plums, and apricots, and for jam and jelly, blackberry, strawberry, blueberry, raspberry, dandelion, apricot, and grape, plus applesauce. Even with using light syrup instead of heavy syrup in the jars of fruit, it's still a lot. And for jam and jelly it's generally one cup of fruit to one cup of sugar and sometimes an extra cup of sugar. We do 52 pints of jam or jelly a year for a family of four. I'm not even sure how much fruit we do, but we go through 2 quarts a week except in late spring through fall, when there is fresh fruit in season.
Once all the necessary food is stocked, it would be nice to add spices (especially as food prices rise and shipping is iffy).