Your explanation on gearing using the bicycle method, that Is as a kid how I learned how transmissions work, how powerbands work and a little more. Love how your teaching style is man keep the knowledge flowing lol
Good video Brian. There is a way to get the oil temps on the A90 display cluster. I do it all the time when verifying new mods. Hold “00” button (bottom left of cluster display) 10-15sec. Scroll down to unlock. Your car pwd is the addiction of the last 6 digits to your VIN. Click away till your pwd number. Hold till it says unlock. Then scroll to Temperature and hold. When you turn off your car you have to do the whole process over.
@@BL-js6sc I appreciate that! Super cool tip tho! Definitely worth the trouble to have that info up during track days and performance tests. I think one of the settings in that menu is how you get the car ready for a dyno run! So cool to see them program that into the car!
You can do some brake boosting….if your transmission is built for it” I’m mainly talking about automatic transmissions” a higher stall speed torc converter allows you some Leeway, a hardened torc converter shaft helps too. If you don’t wish to brake boost….then simply install a 50shot of nitro oxide….armed for full throttle launches….it gives you some power, before the turbo kicks in. I seen a fiero with a 3800 Supercharged engine…..out launch several fast cars with just a 50shot of Nitro oxide…..Imagine if it had a turbo….instead of a super charger.
Talking about a built up racer is much different than a typical car tho. You can brake boost with no issues like I said in the video. Just if you do it accessibly on a normal car, could end bad
ive not heard of turbo turds in a long while lol, didnt know they were still a thing with decent oils available today,, regards turbo timers - after a spirited drive i just coast home easy for the last few miles trying to keep revs under 1500 / minimum or no turbo spool
If you're on the track and right after an aggressive session, you wouldnt want to just turn off the engine. In road driving, I'll do a spirited drive through the mountains, and most like I just continue driving home and of course within 10 mins or so of normal driving everything is at a normal level. But modern cars are getting better and better at oil cooling, so this is becoming less of an issue. My Supra can't overheat if I try to make it!
When I worked at the dealer, we got in a TT-RS and after driving it I felt that it didn't have as much power as I thought it would have. So I plugged in my OBD2 Bluetooth adapter and connected it to my Torque app on my phone. Sure enough it was 5psi lower then what it should. We traced it to a crack in the intercooler. So that helped us buy the car for the right price to replace the IC.
So im kinda guilty of lugging the engine. But i dont believe i am. My car makes peak torque at 3k rpm and its already making 300lb ft at 2200rpms. I floor it all the time in 2nd at 2500rpm as if i do that at 3k in 1-2 or three itll spin out. But at 2k tc will kick in slightly and very gradually lay down power. But it doesnt sound as though its struggling at all. So from my understanding lugging the engine has nothing to do with rpm but instead to do with a lack of engine power in relation to its gearing. A diesel often redlines at 3-4k rpm so if you floor a diesel at 2k rpms making 400ft lbs is it lugging it???
Thats not really lugging the engine. If your in 6th gear at 2k rpm, the gear ratio is the reason the engine will be having a very hard time. Lugging the engine happens when you're at a gear ratio disadvantage. Not just a low rpm
Great clip. Easy to understand since you demonstrated your points practically. Just want to ask whether its possible to lug a turbo engine with an auto transmission since it downshifts when you floor the gas pedal.
I would just add that brake boosting is like launch control If you think about it most cars limit your launch control to a few times before needing to drive around for a while Funny thing is my M2c won’t do burbles til the engine oil is up to temp 😂 Does the Supra do the same? Also in my M2c I can hear the coolant pumps running after I shut the engine off for ~30s
Yeah in my GTR, I can only do 5 back to back, then I need to drive 1 mile to let it reset. THe Supra needed to go through its 'cold start' before the burbles would happen too. And the radiator fans would stay on after the car was off for a bit if it was hot
With a small turbo, unless the car you're racing is the exact same horsepower as yours, brake boosting isnt worth it. Big turbo is the only time its really worth it. It'll give you an edge regardless, but the cons outweigh the pros imo with brake boosting on a small turbo.
I have a GLE 350 (255 hp) so will brake boosting it mess with the transmission? Because the guy you said in the video had a 700hp car so I was just curious.
Brake boosting won't really be a necessity for your GLE to get into the powerband quickly. The reason higher than normal horsepower cars do it, like in modified Supra's, Evo's and etc., is like the video said it's too reduce turbo lag on the larger turbos. Stock cars rarely have a need to brake boost if you're in the correct gear because the turbos are usually small or designed to give a nice smooth and linear acceleration. Big turbo, big lag.
How about octane booster? My car not in the league of these power wise (or price lol - I have a Cupra car with the same engine as the Golf R at 300hp). The reason I ask is that Australian fuel is terrible quality, even the highest octane is allowed to have up to 50 ppm sulfur, whereas rest of civilised world is 10 ppm. Our lowest octane is allowed 200 ppm! It's outrageous. And the fuel companies just bid for another extension before that changes, so now it's not happening for another 5 years. Sigh. I was just thinking if anti sulfur additives occasionally, as well as octane booster, would be good for it. No tuning as yet but I am planning to go Stage 2 and am trying to sort it out so I don't lose warranty, to no avail so far, but even if it's at the end of warranty I am definitely taking it to 400+HP.
The stock tune is for 93. I wouldn't expect any gains under the stock tune. Stock tune limits power to be exactly what it wants. So it'd probably just compensate for the fuel and still keep stock numbers. Check out my latest vids tuning the supra!
Bros FOURR Speed thank you. I live in California and we have 91 octane for a premium. I do feel it’s lacking a bit on pump 91. Was thinking of mixing some 100 octane with the 91 octane to atleast get over 93. 95.5 to be exact on half and half. Thank you
2018 Civic EXT (1.5 liter, turbo, GDI, CVT)…125,300 miles averaging 34.1 mpg. I drive for longevity. -I typically drive between 1.5k-3.5k rpm. -I don’t exceed 2k rpm until the engine reaches optimal temperature. -I rarely take short trips. -I drive 60% highway. -I rarely exceed 4k rpm. -I have never redlined. -I change the oil/filter early…at no more than 4,200 mile intervals (full synthetic 0W-20) -I only use top-tier 93 Octane Shell (for the maximum detergent). I’m hoping to get at least 300k miles on the engine, turbo, and CVT without repair.
Bro you drive a Honda, I have known people who treat them like total shit and they still get well over 150,000 miles. It is an incredible built car it's not you driving like an old lady.
I had my ford explorer sport tuned on 93 making a decent amount over 400 crank hp and over 450 trq and I brake boost it all time and I've had 2 transmission failures in less than a month of ownership
I deactivated start stop feature in this car. Just puts more stress on the starter and ends up wasting more gas. Dumb feature. But if the engine is hot, it's best to let the car idle and cool down to keep the oil flowing. Start/Stop is a pointless regulatory feature. Does nothing positive for the car. Just makes manufactures appear to make cars that are more fuel efficient. It's BS
Enjoying the Supra content. Guy who works near me has a Turbulence Grey one. That color is surprisingly really good (not the biggest fan of grey/silver cars). Really hoping to see a Nitro Yellow one sometime.
Brake boosting is perfectly fine on these cars, it's very similar to how the factory launch control works. You shouldn't abuse it, but all drag racing Supra's brake boost to launch.
If doing UA-cam is your job, and it funds the car purchases, how are you guys still surviving? I mean you are getting next to no views and you pump out a video every day just to put something out there, of which most are uninteresting content. Just wondering how you guys make it work?
99% of our views don't come from subscribers. Our vids generally take many months to start gaining views. We have several videos in the million view range, and many on the way. Our channel just doesn't gain views like others. We've averaged about 1.5 million views a month all year long. UA-cam is weird
Your explanation on gearing using the bicycle method, that Is as a kid how I learned how transmissions work, how powerbands work and a little more. Love how your teaching style is man keep the knowledge flowing lol
Nice! Glad to be able to put that into a real world way to understand
Literally an underrated channel really knowledgeable and awesome ❤🔥
We appreciate that! Thanks you!
Good video Brian. There is a way to get the oil temps on the A90 display cluster. I do it all the time when verifying new mods. Hold “00” button (bottom left of cluster display) 10-15sec. Scroll down to unlock. Your car pwd is the addiction of the last 6 digits to your VIN. Click away till your pwd number. Hold till it says unlock. Then scroll to Temperature and hold. When you turn off your car you have to do the whole process over.
Wow! I'm definitely going to check that out!! Thanks for the tip!
B L Is there a way to have that menus screen stay in every time you start the car?
Bros FOURR Speed unfortunately I haven’t figured that out. Subscribed! Enjoying the videos man.
@@BL-js6sc I appreciate that! Super cool tip tho! Definitely worth the trouble to have that info up during track days and performance tests. I think one of the settings in that menu is how you get the car ready for a dyno run! So cool to see them program that into the car!
i was about to attempt brake boosting this wknd in my brand new M240I, glad i came across your video bro.
Every now and then won't kill it. But not the best habit
You can do some brake boosting….if your transmission is built for it” I’m mainly talking about automatic transmissions” a higher stall speed torc converter allows you some Leeway, a hardened torc converter shaft helps too.
If you don’t wish to brake boost….then simply install a 50shot of nitro oxide….armed for full throttle launches….it gives you some power, before the turbo kicks in.
I seen a fiero with a 3800 Supercharged engine…..out launch several fast cars with just a 50shot of Nitro oxide…..Imagine if it had a turbo….instead of a super charger.
Talking about a built up racer is much different than a typical car tho. You can brake boost with no issues like I said in the video. Just if you do it accessibly on a normal car, could end bad
ive not heard of turbo turds in a long while lol, didnt know they were still a thing with decent oils available today,, regards turbo timers - after a spirited drive i just coast home easy for the last few miles trying to keep revs under 1500 / minimum or no turbo spool
If you're on the track and right after an aggressive session, you wouldnt want to just turn off the engine. In road driving, I'll do a spirited drive through the mountains, and most like I just continue driving home and of course within 10 mins or so of normal driving everything is at a normal level. But modern cars are getting better and better at oil cooling, so this is becoming less of an issue. My Supra can't overheat if I try to make it!
When buying a car, how do i know if the turbos are not giving the right amount of power they should be giving. (Trying to buy a Toyota Aristo)
When I worked at the dealer, we got in a TT-RS and after driving it I felt that it didn't have as much power as I thought it would have. So I plugged in my OBD2 Bluetooth adapter and connected it to my Torque app on my phone. Sure enough it was 5psi lower then what it should. We traced it to a crack in the intercooler. So that helped us buy the car for the right price to replace the IC.
So im kinda guilty of lugging the engine. But i dont believe i am. My car makes peak torque at 3k rpm and its already making 300lb ft at 2200rpms. I floor it all the time in 2nd at 2500rpm as if i do that at 3k in 1-2 or three itll spin out. But at 2k tc will kick in slightly and very gradually lay down power. But it doesnt sound as though its struggling at all.
So from my understanding lugging the engine has nothing to do with rpm but instead to do with a lack of engine power in relation to its gearing.
A diesel often redlines at 3-4k rpm so if you floor a diesel at 2k rpms making 400ft lbs is it lugging it???
Thats not really lugging the engine. If your in 6th gear at 2k rpm, the gear ratio is the reason the engine will be having a very hard time. Lugging the engine happens when you're at a gear ratio disadvantage. Not just a low rpm
Great clip. Easy to understand since you demonstrated your points practically. Just want to ask whether its possible to lug a turbo engine with an auto transmission since it downshifts when you floor the gas pedal.
If you are using the paddles in the manual mode in a higher gear you can definitely lug it. So it would depends. In automatic mode it'll never do that
@@BrosFOURRSpeed thank you. Subscribed.
1:37 maybe it was a 6speed which are a little weak for high power evo's
His was a 5! Some crazy power!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Damn nice!!
I would just add that brake boosting is like launch control
If you think about it most cars limit your launch control to a few times before needing to drive around for a while
Funny thing is my M2c won’t do burbles til the engine oil is up to temp 😂
Does the Supra do the same?
Also in my M2c I can hear the coolant pumps running after I shut the engine off for ~30s
Yeah in my GTR, I can only do 5 back to back, then I need to drive 1 mile to let it reset. THe Supra needed to go through its 'cold start' before the burbles would happen too. And the radiator fans would stay on after the car was off for a bit if it was hot
I disabled cold start and get burbles immediately on my Supra
Is brake boosting not nessary when racing with a small turbo ? The bigger the Turbo more lag right?
You can do it on any car really. Just don't go too crazy with it
With a small turbo, unless the car you're racing is the exact same horsepower as yours, brake boosting isnt worth it. Big turbo is the only time its really worth it. It'll give you an edge regardless, but the cons outweigh the pros imo with brake boosting on a small turbo.
I have a GLE 350 (255 hp) so will brake boosting it mess with the transmission? Because the guy you said in the video had a 700hp car so I was just curious.
Any car it's not the best thing to do. Once or twice here and there wont kill it. But if you're always doing it, that's a good way to mess things up
Brake boosting won't really be a necessity for your GLE to get into the powerband quickly. The reason higher than normal horsepower cars do it, like in modified Supra's, Evo's and etc., is like the video said it's too reduce turbo lag on the larger turbos. Stock cars rarely have a need to brake boost if you're in the correct gear because the turbos are usually small or designed to give a nice smooth and linear acceleration. Big turbo, big lag.
Theres oil temps in the supra but it’s a secret menu I think u hold the tripometer
Yeah I found that eventually! Super cool to see, but they should make it more accessible!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed they should it’s tedious lol
Great video man!! Great trips!!!
This channel can never get bored
Does the engine oil warm up faster in warmer climates? Like say tropical climate...
Yeah it makes sense it'd warm up a bit quicker in warm climates
There's this thingamajig on the dash called a temp guage.
@@johnny6705 for most cars they only read the coolant temperature. Not the same temp as the oil 🤷🏽♂️
How about octane booster? My car not in the league of these power wise (or price lol - I have a Cupra car with the same engine as the Golf R at 300hp).
The reason I ask is that Australian fuel is terrible quality, even the highest octane is allowed to have up to 50 ppm sulfur, whereas rest of civilised world is 10 ppm. Our lowest octane is allowed 200 ppm! It's outrageous. And the fuel companies just bid for another extension before that changes, so now it's not happening for another 5 years. Sigh. I was just thinking if anti sulfur additives occasionally, as well as octane booster, would be good for it. No tuning as yet but I am planning to go Stage 2 and am trying to sort it out so I don't lose warranty, to no avail so far, but even if it's at the end of warranty I am definitely taking it to 400+HP.
Interesting. yeah that can help for sure. Or running methanol injection. Do you have E85 there?
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Don't think we have E85, that's 85% alcohol isn't it? AFAIK this car is not even allowed to run our E10 fuel.
How long can turbo last on average?
If you maintain your car well. Probably could see 150,000 miles on a car like this
Have You Ever Staled in the supra?
lol no. Seeing my dad stall the 4runner one time is the only time I've witnessed an auto car stalling
@@BrosFOURRSpeed ok
And last but not least, remember to replace your blinker fluid frequently! That has a MASSIVE effect on your turbo! :-))))))))))))))
Yeah that's definitely a useful tip
i was hoping brake boosting not on the list and it was the first one lol
haha definitely not the best thing to do. Won't be bad from time to time. But don't go crazy
@samrogers4988 hmm, I guess you’ll find out as the mileage climbs if it’s effected your car or not
Great tips thanks. I have never owned a Turbo charged car but will probably in the future.
Glad you liked it! Turbo cars are aweseome!
Does the gr supra get a little bit more hp stock tune when u use 93-100octane
The stock tune is for 93. I wouldn't expect any gains under the stock tune. Stock tune limits power to be exactly what it wants. So it'd probably just compensate for the fuel and still keep stock numbers. Check out my latest vids tuning the supra!
Bros FOURR Speed thank you. I live in California and we have 91 octane for a premium. I do feel it’s lacking a bit on pump 91. Was thinking of mixing some 100 octane with the 91 octane to atleast get over 93. 95.5 to be exact on half and half. Thank you
2018 Civic EXT (1.5 liter, turbo, GDI, CVT)…125,300 miles averaging 34.1 mpg.
I drive for longevity.
-I typically drive between 1.5k-3.5k rpm.
-I don’t exceed 2k rpm until the engine reaches optimal temperature.
-I rarely take short trips.
-I drive 60% highway.
-I rarely exceed 4k rpm.
-I have never redlined.
-I change the oil/filter early…at no more than 4,200 mile intervals (full synthetic 0W-20)
-I only use top-tier 93 Octane Shell (for the maximum detergent).
I’m hoping to get at least 300k miles on the engine, turbo, and CVT without repair.
Oh nice!
Bro you drive a Honda, I have known people who treat them like total shit and they still get well over 150,000 miles. It is an incredible built car it's not you driving like an old lady.
Most newer cars have an after-run pump, which continues to pump motor oil through the turbo until a safe temperature is reached.
Oh that's cool
I had my ford explorer sport tuned on 93 making a decent amount over 400 crank hp and over 450 trq and I brake boost it all time and I've had 2 transmission failures in less than a month of ownership
lol dang! Good way to to blow some money ;)
@Bros FOURR Speed ford covered it both tines tho, so I dint pay a dime
Come to a stop, wait a minute and then turn off engine. The Start-stop system would say otherwise.
I deactivated start stop feature in this car. Just puts more stress on the starter and ends up wasting more gas. Dumb feature. But if the engine is hot, it's best to let the car idle and cool down to keep the oil flowing. Start/Stop is a pointless regulatory feature. Does nothing positive for the car. Just makes manufactures appear to make cars that are more fuel efficient. It's BS
My bk2 genesis coupe 2.0t has over 300hp to the wheels and i brake boost at the track a lot. Running strong still! 🤷♂️
Hopefully it stays strong! I'm sure at that power level it can handle it. But my friends Evo had double the power lol
what car are you driving?
This is a 2020 Toyota Supra
Enjoying the Supra content. Guy who works near me has a Turbulence Grey one. That color is surprisingly really good (not the biggest fan of grey/silver cars). Really hoping to see a Nitro Yellow one sometime.
Nice! I've only seen white, red and black in person
Would like this content with some MK4s or old school wagons 🤗
I'd love an MK4 Supra! Maybe one day!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed You and me both!✌🏻
Sounds just like a bmw🙃
Hahah yeah, pretty much! I love the pops and cracks it has in the exhaust!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I couldn't resist 🤣
Brake boosting is perfectly fine on these cars, it's very similar to how the factory launch control works. You shouldn't abuse it, but all drag racing Supra's brake boost to launch.
Yeah like I said, every now and then won't kill it. But don't do it all the time
Yeah u look like a turbo guy
I really enjoy owning turbo cars! Very fun!
If doing UA-cam is your job, and it funds the car purchases, how are you guys still surviving? I mean you are getting next to no views and you pump out a video every day just to put something out there, of which most are uninteresting content. Just wondering how you guys make it work?
99% of our views don't come from subscribers. Our vids generally take many months to start gaining views. We have several videos in the million view range, and many on the way. Our channel just doesn't gain views like others. We've averaged about 1.5 million views a month all year long. UA-cam is weird
fuck turbo cars
they blow a lot and.cost a lot of money to fix it. when it does blow u get a hell ofca smoke out of the exhaust
Not really. What kind of turbo cars have you owned? They are pretty reliable now a days and are a ton of fun!
fucking bmw 2013- 3 seres
Copied video from Engeniering explained
Just going over some things in a turbo vehicle. Explaining them my way