First Contact: the Viking vs. Native American Battles
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Inside the Viking clash with Native Americans around 1000 AD. Leif Erikson reaches North America, and the Vikings who follow his expedition soon encounter locals, whom they later call “Skraeling.” In the land they know as Vinland, these Scandinavians meet the ancestors of the Dorset or Beothuk people. We sift through some of the myths surrounding these stories, examine the ruins at L’Anse Aux Meadows, and present the newest research on this history.
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SOURCES:
Chiesa, Paolo. “Marckalada: The First Mention of America in the Mediterranean Area (c. 1340).” Terrae Incognitae, vol. 53, no. 2, 2021, pp. 88-106., doi.org/10.1080/00822884.2021....
Magnusson, Magnus, and Hermann Palsson. The Vinland Sagas. Penguin Books, 1965.
Metcalfe, Tom. “In Tree Rings and Radioactive Carbon, Signs of the Vikings in North America.” NBCNews.com, NBCUniversal News Group, 20 Oct. 2021, www.nbcnews.com/science/scien....
Sigurðsson, Gísli. The Medieval Icelandic Saga and Oral Tradition: a Discourse on Method. Milman Parry Collection of Oral Literature, Harvard University, 2004.
Wallace, B. “The Norse in Newfoundland: L’Anse Aux Meadows and Vinland”. Newfoundland and Labrador Studies, vol. 19, no. 1, May 2005, journals.lib.unb.ca/index.php....
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According to my Chippewa relatives, their ancestors were constantly oppressed by the Iroquois -- until one winter when the Iroquois raiders didn't show up, so the Chippewa send scouts to find out why. They discovered that the Iroquois were busy fighting with odd-looking strangers, tall and pale people who had the use of strange gray metal. On the theory that the enemy of my enemy is my friend, the Chippewa allied with the strangers and traded foods and furs with them -- and also sent them women, who then came home to raise their mixed-blood children, who tended to be taller and stronger than the average Chippewa at the time. The tall strangers stayed along the coastal lands until a plague reduced their numbers to less than who could maintain the settlement. And that is how my mother's family came to have archaic Scandinavian genes.
There must have been some kind of friendship...there are native American genes in Iceland.which means Wives were taken back. And I get a feeling it was a willing thing too.
Tribal history will always fascinate me
Lots of natives wanted to mix with the Aryan bloodline
Thanks for sharing nice
I would like to ask more questions, is there another way I could reach you? Im very interested.
Native Americans do have a lot of stories of fighting red- and blonde-haired giants with blue eyes, that carried iron weapons. There are even places where some of these "giants" were supposedly buried in a manner similar to a Norse Viking funeral. I think we need to accept at this point that yes, the Vikings were here long enough for stories about them to entire local narratives and stop dismissing these local tales as "colorful myths" like the Smithsonian and mainstream historians would have you believe. Native Americans aren't stupid they have thousands of years' worth of oral history in their stories people just have to be willing to listen.
Yeah it’s insane how fast we are to brush off ancient literature as myth or tales.
I don’t mean this argumentatively, but would it make sense for them to be described as “giant”, when northern native Americans-such as those that would be found in the waters navigated by the Vikings- were quite large themselves.
@@Shivelybanetek most likely the Vikings. Assuming numbers were comparable. Vikings had metal weapons and armor.
Imagine how much the Native Americans knew, all the history they witnessed. Unfortunate that it was destroyed by the Westerners colonising everything and erasing ancient cultures from the face of the Earth
@@Hungarianbuttbabyy there is only a select few Viking settlements in canada which says otherwise, just because we did not have iron weapons doesn’t mean we didn’t have any advanced warfare
A funny theory that recently popped up on this topic is that the natives were initially incredibley happy to drink milk. Yet Europeans are far less likely to suffer from lactose intolerance than other groups. This is important as the natives did not have centuries of lactose tolerance to rely on and thus had terrible indigestion. So the natives believed the Vikings had tried to poison them and had much resentment and tension when they tried to meet the vikings again.
Damn that's a hell of a way to start a fight. Giving the Natives the shits.
That’s interesting and makes sense. Especially if the natives took it back with them and drank it later letting it sit out a day or so.
@@helloidharbl6753 that’s honestly kind of funny.
“my tummy was hurting real bad last night, was yours?”
“yeah.”
“alright, fuck those guys.”
@@walkingolga6235lmao I’m dead asf😂
@@user-vn8ps9eg3b 🤣🤣😂 Any evidence?😂
It must've been wild for the natives seeing Vikings for the first time and those fights must've been legendary.
The world seemed so much bigger back then, so many untold stories and experiences. Man I love history.
Fax the Vikings and the natives are my favorite type of warriors
Born to late to explore the world and too early to explore space 😔
Globalization makes everything known, so the sense of mystery just dies out.
They couldn´t communicate live with the rest of the world simultaneously, a letter from a Mayan priest to a monk of the Tang dynasty wasn´t even possible. Or was it? In theory, but the journey would take months and be deadly.
@@deathinthedark5451 bro
It's just crazy how adaptive vikings were. Literally going to foreign worlds with no problems... and just fighting everything...
Yeah I mean its easy when your weapons are just vastly superior
@@gabehuerta3025 Well there's that. But I meant, aside of North America, there were Vikings going into the middle east, europe, north africa.. and just fuckin everything up lol
True but im guessing it was a similar situation in those places too 😂
@@jaymata1218 yeah and got their ass beaten 😂 maybe should stop in Greenland
@HolgerDanske14 y’all loosing at your home right now
Unfortunately. It’s very bad but gotta admit
Wow, by coincidence, I've been watching a lot of Vinland Saga lately, so it was awesome to hear Thorfinn's name and "a land they called Vinland!" Great video, as always!
Don't forget leif erikson
They called Canada vinland! The Vikings landed in Newfoundland and Labrador!
Vinland Saga is so goated
I guess somewhat of a spoiler Vinland saga is currently in this arc.
You have no enemies.
As a Diné (Navajo), I grew up learning from my elders about the monster slayers. They were twin brothers of a talented women. She raised them in solitude from a giant lurking around the lands. They had to face many challenges before they were able to slay the giant. There is much more out there.
Cool / skih
Let’s be honest, watching an actual fight between a band of Vikings and a tribe of Native American braves would be well worth the price of popcorn
make the movie
@@myproductions6225 I think a Tik Tok would be better because it’s 15 seconds long
That'll be cool haha! Still think the Vikings will have the edge due to metal weapons
@@carlosfurtado1164 but they didn't hence why they couldn't colonizer the americas. They weren't also disease and flea ridden like their spanish/anglo/african counterparts so they didn't have biological warfare on their side. It's why they got their asses kicked and were sent packing
@@carlosfurtado1164 but no projectiles...
I just want to say that this topic has fascinated me for a very, very long time. I always wondered what the pre-Columbus Native Americans and Vikings actually did and thought of one another.
Exactly the same here
In short summary, the vikings thought of our ancestors as skraelings, aka wretched people. There was a time of peace and trading between the two, until they got tired of the killing of there people and drove the vikings out.
@@n8tive565 the British colony took over
@@executiveorder7146 that's uh, that's a pretty wide gap my man. 😅
@@kenobi3419 only, he says. 😅
Probably already mentioned on here, but the film “Pathfinder” involves an abandoned Viking baby boy being adopted and raised by a Native tribe, and decides to stand and defend his adopted people from the returning Viking raiders when he grows into a young man. It didn’t do very well in theatres, but it’s worth a view
That kind of fiction feeds into the minds of idiots.
@@Bonzi_Buddy it's a movie, not a documentary. How many movies are true stories? And, even if they are, how accurate do you think Hollyweird ever is?
@@mikelundquist4596 My statement still stands. Fiction always feeds into the minds of idiots.
People need to watch more "First 48" and less SVU to see how real cops have to work. Also watch the shows that cover trials without the sensationalism (yes, almost impossible to find. The legal process is boring and unknown to the majority of the population and lawyers love it that way.)
Those "NCIS" agents on TV have killed more people than US soldiers whose job it is to kill ever has...maybe Adelbert F. Waldron III might edge them out but barely and as some of these seasons go on he will be surpassed if not already.
We get lectured to by these idiots too. Embarrassing.
I laugh when I see how many white guys are the bad guys in Chicago PD. Hollywood sucks.
The Vikings might not even been the first Europeans to reach North America. There were probably on stances of European sailors shipwrecked on North American shores who were assimilated into Native American cultural groups. Also, there arestories of Irish monks reaching the shores of North America during the Dark Ages.
@@anthonytroisi6682 zero proof of this. It would be accounted for in the haplogroup of native American descendants and they probably would have been exposed to smallpox, measles, influenza, etc. earlier.
Some could have had a one way ticket to NA but were not accepted into any tribe to which children were born.
Mormon church nonsense has some bs beliefs.
This is brilliantly narrated. Huge respect for bringing this story to life with suitably epic language.
It’s absolutely amazing how disease resistant the Vikings were. It allowed them to travel virtually anywhere
That situation goes two ways: If you travel a lot, you are more likely to have more overall resistances.
The people who spent a majority of their history in isolation, voluntary or not, are the most likely to get decimated by new diseases if the isolation is broken.
@@darthplagueis13 oh for sure. But it goes so much deeper then that because traveling a lot also exposes you to new diseases , toxic fauna and parasites the body has never seen before. They can be brought back to the host nations and spread like wildfire also. This never happened with the Vikings.
And they seemed to be altogether resistant to smallpox, cholera and other waterborn disease which have no “natural” resistances to them.
It seems as though they intentionally understand how to heighten their immune systems starting even as children. I think an in depth study into their diets and locations they used the bathroom (nasty) would show their stool samples were extremely out of the ordinary
@@darthplagueis13 and look at what the governments want now. Hand sanitizer and inside all doors.
@@yeomans9696 Well... The vikings didn't have hand sanitizer in the first place, so there wasn't much of a choice there.
Besides, there's the topic of population density: 20k people isn't considered much these days but would have been viewed as a large city in the 10th century.
Viral diseases today can spread at a rate that would not have been possible back then.
Also, funny thing about historical epidemics: On of the main reasons why they would spread is because people would try to flee from infected places and bring the diseases with them to new places. This effect was so devastating that even during a time when your average traveler crossed less than 20 miles every day, the black death still managed to infect pretty much all of europe, killing a third of the population. Just imagine the death toll if people in the 14th century had been able to cross the globe within just a day like we can today.
Not that global distribution is the main concern with Covid anymore, it's everywhere already. The main concern now is trying to not constantly let it re-ignite. As long as covid still spreads at absurd speeds it will just continue mutating, with new variants that previous immunities don't help against, further increasing infections and keeping the cycle going. That's what the hand sanitizer and stay-home orders boil down to: Trying to contain the spread enough that immunity can finally catch up with the disease, reducing the rate of infections and the odds of new mutations.
A good diet of Vitamin D from fish and fermented foods
In an alternative timeline, the native Americans could’ve allied with them, perhaps learn things like shipbuilding and metallurgy. Many what-if scenarios!
If Vikings, allied with the natives and continued to colonize NA :
1 - The small pox would be passed on more lightly and in better situation , than irl.
2 - Natives would adopt better technology, horses and work animals much earlier, than irl and would also have time to get used to it
3 - There would be millions of natives and half native/ half norse people living in NA as of now
4 - Spain would probably colonize only the Caribbeans and parts of northern South America,
5 - Inca empire may fall and fracture into smaller kingdoms
6 - The Aztecs would live on, through heavy reforms and possibly a civil war, but the pox wouldn't decimate millions and they would have the numbers to oppose the conquistadors
@@podlodialgilap3490 if only...
@@podlodialgilap3490 and no US yesss🤣🤣🤣
Imagine an American revolution fought for independence not from George III, but from Christian VII of Denmark. Fought by mixed descendants of Norsemen and Native Americans.
@@albofrfr And none of us or our families either.
A shw was produced on the legendary history of the Vikings, following a specific character which branched off beautifully into the rest of their sagas, ending up at the first contact between Vikings and Native Americans, with Ubbe and Floki.
Why couldn't we have more of this beauty? Other parts of history? 5+ seasons, 50+ episdoes, years spanning. It would be beyond beautiful.
Nobody can replicate the success of Vikings.
That show is mostly fiction, if you want to learn about the vikings hitting North America then it's the vinland säga. But the new season leif erikson might be heading to North America, and the first viking King cnut will be killed, and replace by William 1, the great grandson of Duke Rollo of Normandy, him and Ragnar were born 100 years apart to.
I just think it would have been absolutely nuts yet fascinating at the same time. That very first meeting. For both. Each warriors/survivors. One traveled more but they never knew what they were going to come across. Then each sees the other. Right there that "what the ......" moment.
Vikings: **give natives milk** 🌝
Natives: **are lactose intolerant and assume the Vikings tried to poison them**
**proceeds to attack the vikings**
Vikings: "This is fine. I'm okay with the events unfolding around me. 🌚"
Hahahaha xD gold
That's funny because my brother in law is Native American and lactose intolerant. He says it's pretty common among his people.
@@warpartyattheoutpost4987 yeah lactose intolerance is relatively common except in those of European, Central Asian, Middle eastern, and North African ancestry
@@Shack-lion well think about it a person with the worst lactose intolerance just drank milk for the first time he must have had a bad time .
@@Kanadabalsam not really
This makes me remember that natives in my country (From South America), had stories passed from gen to gen and talked about "big white, sun-like hair and blue eyes like the sky" people that came in, what they described as boats. There are some restricted places, in the middle of some protected forests here, that has stones with what appears to be runes, carved in them.
Qué país?
@@craydussy A South American country. Says it in the comment
@@garethlloyd4346 ah i missed that. Thank you
Dónde? Nunca he oído eso. Besides, Vikings never came to South America.
@Abaloo Poo your great grandfather was racist
hearing the name Thorfinn Karlsefni after binge watching Vinland Saga is amazing knowing he was a real person. not the same fighter in the anime but a real person 😍
Hell yeah brother, fellow Vinland Saga fan here.
I was jumping around in my room after he spoke of his name😂
And Vinland was a real place. That is kinda cool
And leif Erickson is real too. The old man truly made to Vinland. So will thorfinn.
Read the manga
If only my history classes had been this interesting. Great video.
I am half Indigenous and Icelander, it’s a joy being educated on both sides of my racial backgrounds, although some history could be dark, but I find it to be rare history, because it’s not often they talk about the relations between Indigenous people and Viking’s.
But most of history is dark. Really dark. Really really really dark, things that happened regularly.
You must now that norwegian vikings was very brave at sailors, but they was not real gentlemen against women. About 80% of the male genes in the icelandic population is norwegian, but over 60% of the female genes in the icelandic population are actually celtic/irish and only about 35% norwegian. Many of the celtic/irish women was taken to Iceland as slaves or concubines. And around 2010 it was found out that about 80 icelanders have some genes from native americans, probably because the vikings in America take a indian woman as prisoner and take her back to Iceland when they was in America over 1000 years ago. We norwegians of today are so kind and friendly, but in the viking age we was so brutal.
@Marcus
"For Odins sake" cringe mate
Man you're like a living prophecy
No one in North America is half “indigenous” much less has a parent that is 100% indigenous. Even on the most isolated reservations the highest percent of “indigenous” blood quantum found in NA today is 45%.
I imagine the discovery of America wasn't even that shocking to the Vikings, since they didn't feel theyve mapped the entire world at the time. They were just raiding an unknown foreign land for resources and that was all they needed to know. Amazing.
And There are still ancestors of celtic People in South America's Anden.
The Chachapoya
well vikings didnt just sail around to raid places. the scandinavians became 'vikings' in the year 793 because of the resistance they did to the threat christianity presented. the day scandinavians gathered to 'kill christianity by the root', was the day they became vikings. they sailed to england and killed monks, burned churches and stole whatever valuable there. this is the reason why people thought vikings just traveled to places and raided. Hårfagre gathered norway in 930 ish, and by the year 1000 norway was a christian country, thus ending the viking period.
For most of history vikings were actually primarily concerned with trade and offering mercenary work.
Part of what gave them the ”violent marauder” image was the romans’ view of them as ”unkempt savages” and their violent rejection of christianity coupled with a native religion that told them they could only reach paradise if they died fighting.
@@Woodfekker also the burning and raiding of churchs? dont act like vikings are some misunderstood innocent men.
@@Woodfekker the Viking Era started 200 years after the fall of Rome. Gauls and Vikings arent the same thing.
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As a native American I expected cringe clicking on this video like any other video on natives meeting whites for the first time. Instead, I found a well told and detailed description of an encounter. Well done
Still mad about white people? Get over it.
I am Swedish and feared cringe too when I clicked. So many viking videos gets kind of romanticized somehow.
Vikings get romanticized somehow?
Native Americans weren’t saints, lol. They killed their own people in savage ways.
@@yostugotz5619 no ones a saint. Every race has done some fucked up shit to their own.
@kamelia, don’t talk to me.
The way some early viking settlers ended was so sad... Even if they had peaceful relations, no shield or sword can defend against hunger and cold.
My ancestors endured much living in Scandinavia, from before the old times all the way up to only a 100 years ago and for that I am grateful that we have it so well today. However it saddens me that so many moved from our land for it being to harsch and poor only to end up in a worse predicament
We didn't settle for long because of Freydis. If she hadn't murdered those two families we could be speaking some American Norse tongue.
Cool my people kidnapped there nabors and sacrifice them to the sun god and wore there skin like true Chad's 😎
@@takumifujiwara2951 The sun god is important to show your faith too and thank!
You are aztec
Extremely well written! Excellent work!
Beautiful artwork, excellent narration!
I can’t get over how good you dudes are. Just amazing art and some of the best writing I’ve ever had the pleasure of hearing. I love how both of you paint a picture of your stories both visually and in your words.
@Skip Mickmack By that metric, all humans would be "Native Africans". It's all about time of inhabitance. The indigenous people of the Americas have lived there for tens of thousands of years, while people of European descent have only been there for a few hundred. While it's true that the modern people, of any race, that were born and raised on the continent are in all practicality equally as connected to the land as the indigenous people are - the latter are still referred to as the "Native Americans" out of respect and reverence for their unfathomably ancient roots in the land. Other terms, like "First Nations", or "Aboriginals", also carry this reverence - while terms like "American Indian" carry connotations of a culturally ignorant, centuries-old misconception.
@Skip Mickmack . Only not originally..only red people hunted prehistoric hairy elephants . 1492 is mainly when Europeans and Africans showed up buddy
@Skip Mickmack . Yeah..you like
@@fakeskyler2305 . Equally in ways only not all ways..the bones covered over for parking lots are red bones..not white..not black. ..ever
@@fakeskyler2305 You are subscribing to the evolutionary model to indicate that humans originated in Africa, but that is not factual, it is theory. Remember the fraud "Lucy"?
The art, sound design, narration don't scream "1,000 views" this deserves at least 500,000
You must summon the algorithm gods for me
p.s. thanks!
@@HistoryDose We'll get the blood rituals prepared for you!
He successfully summoned the algorithm gods
Almost there
We almost there
i love the way your videos are narrated and made
I just stumbled upon this while researching the Comanche.
Great content and excellent, evocative writing! Thanks very much.
Thanks! We have a video on the Comanche you should check out, too!
As someone who finished reading about a lot of this recently, its so amazing to see someone with this kind of passion making informative vids. Keep it up bro! Quickly becoming one of my favorite channels
Thanks so much, Daniel!
@Skip Mickmack He says that their ancestors were immigrants from Eurasia, but because America wasn't inhabited back then they became indigenous people - the first people to ever live in America. When Europeans came to New World they found humans that inhabited America from centuries. So when Europeans started settle in these areas they were immigrants, similar to native americans ancestors, but this doesn't gived them the native status. This also apply to Africans and Asians who came to Americas after the Europeans.
And sorry for my bad english.
@Skip Mickmack First off I didn't said anything about that being native entitles you to any land in any other way than just calling it your native land.
Second, I think you are using the wrong definition of the word "native". In this video the word "native" was used in anthropological/historical sense. This word has many definitions but I assume that this specific definition was used in this video, given to it's context.
According to Cambridge Dictionary one of the definitions of the word "native" is - "relating to the first people to live in an area".
Oxford Dictionary has similar definition.
And there's another definition that is applying to specifically Native Americans - "a member of one of the groups of people who were living in North and South America before Europeans arrived".
And there's also Oxford Dictionary definition similar to that.
Some words have their meanings that are scientifically established, because they are useful in these sciences. You cannot just change them, just because that doesn't make any sense to you.
Sorry for lack of the links to dictionaries, but UA-cam isn't allowing them in comments, my previous comments was deleted.
Its only a theory that they crossed a land bridge.
@Skip Mickmack First come, first served. Same as with any settlement in history.
Basic knowledge really. If you're first, you name it. If you name it, you are it.
What's with your negative view of native americans? Just wondering...
Great to see this blowing up. A gem.
@Skip Mickmack everyone is native earthling my man thats the only thing that actually matters
@Skip Mickmack welp, if we look way way back, then we are all South Africans, if my anthropology is correct.
You got a good channel too
@Skip Mickmack ur like the old man yelling at clouds
Eh look who it is!
As a Dane this was a very exciting history lessons one of the best i have ever had! we should definitely try to roleplay how a battle would be
roleplay are for degenerates as sone as someone mentions RP in comment fields it turns into a demonc orgie of some sort so no please dont. But i can give you an idea.
Imagine small men with stone weapons facing off against large men in chainmail, helmets, shields and iron weapons. and much stronger bows with iron tipped arrows...
if you think in a sens of realism. its to brutal and unfair towards the Skrälingar. its basicly like playing a game with cheat mods.
But ofcoarse you want to imagine the mindless slaugher you are a Dane xD
Just watched vikings vs Kiev Russ and now this one.
My new fave channel by far. Good job !!
Some few years ago a Norse settlement site was found in the Hudson Valley near Minisceongo Creek. Could've been one of these places mentioned in the Sagas. It is believed about 30-100 people lived there, but only for a short time. “Many clues discovered on the site suggest that the Norse could have come into conflict with the indigenous people of the region. Besides the skeletons that were found, who were most likely killed in combat, the numerous remains of native American weapons found on the site suggest the colony suffered a large-scale attack by indigenous warriors,”. Sounds a lot like what the saga record describes.
Yo this is awesome. Do you have a link to an article about it I could read?
that "settlement" is a complete hoax and has been disproved for years, the southern most piece of evidence that there is is the Maine penny and that is most likely to come from Native American trade routes, or was a real coin planted in Maine by a young archeologist named Guy Mellgren in 1957, who originally thought the penny to be English.
The only proven Norse settlement is L'Anse aux Meadows and for the time being it will stay that way.
additionally, on this site there is no record of conflict and the settlement was abandoned very purposefully, suggesting they used the stop for a couple years to repair their boats and either went back to Greenland or ventured further south to a unknown location.
The video uses the Saga's as a suggestion that Leif or Erik had been on the location but the fact the settlement exists does not prove either character to have ever existed or any of the Saga's to contain true information about the Norse presence in Greenland
@@fpsfiziks560 the natives didn't have the IQ to develop weapons made of iron, Northern Germanic people ( Vikings) definitely went there
@@user-km5kj8xh1x it’s not that they didn’t have the iq you buffoon, they were behind in technology for a lot of reasons compared to their european/asian counterparts
@@richbandicoot IQ and race go hand and hand. Europeans had ti be creative because of the short growing season and long brutal winters, couldn't run around naked in northern Europe. Had to learn how to preserve foods, build shelter, clothing etc which is good eugenics because only the strongest survived
Facts over feelings.
Congrats on the growth man, must feel great!
Thanks! It’s really great to see this video go off!
Native Americans? You mean native North Americans I'm assuming? Technically they were Native Canadians
@@Roboticpycotic Technically no, a Native Canadian would just be a person born in the political state of Canada which has only existed for a few hundred years. "Native American" is not a confusing term at all and refers to any of the non-Europeans who settled on the landmass of America from the time of the previous ice age and on. You could spend all day trying to specifically identify a native American people... e.g. take one group... the Mdewakanton tribe of the Santee Division of the Dakota Indians of the Sioux people, and guess what these folks would have had a presence in the U.S. and Canada so what is the point of trying to pin them down as native to one modern country?
@@HistoryDose you keep saying thank you for an assignment that is biased and based on theory
There has to be a turd in every punch bowl. Why bother watching if you are just going to whine that it’s not accurate, lol. Nothing better to do with your life?
Absolutely awesome......I really enjoy your stories of history, I can only hope to visually create your words into images that can stand up to your beutiful portraits of words!
Crazy how well researched Vinland saga is
Loved how you guys covered this topic that’s barely talked about. Also funny how they mutually saw each other as giants as time went on
Giants? Lol in Micmac history Vikings are just peoples on boat not giants whatsoever good warriors perhaps but they won and send them back to the ocean
Same in Erik the red tales micmacs are just called skrælingi I don’t think it means giant in anyway
LOL I looked it means “ugly men”
@@bobmorane2082 maybe watch the video before speaking
@@bobmorane2082 I thought it meant weakling
I live in Maine, during my high school years in the late 90s. We were shown old artifacts in a museum that were dated and told to be that of Viking. Found only a mile or so off the coast of Maine. The problem with this stuff is maines coastline is insanely sharp and jagged, only a few places can you land such boats. I believe whole heartedly the Vikings landed in Maine but couldn’t get far so quickly abandoned it to move further south.
Well, regarding the coastline, remember that a thousand years has passed. Might've looked different back then. Or they had some clever tricks which were lost to time.
The coastline was higher back then, there was a warm period on earth during that timeperiod. This is also why we don't find old boathouses from that time on the water, but a little distance up higher in the terrain
I love you for giving the primary sources.
Im a norwegian, when "foreigners" telling my ancestor's story is great, keep up the good work.
The story given of trading milk with the natives for furs differs from the version I have heard many times from several sources. The version I have always heard was that the natives, being lactose intolerant, became sick from ingesting the milk and concluded that the vikings attempted to poison them. They then returned and either wiped out the viking settlement or drove them off.
Well there were probably millions of natives living there at the time. Enough for tribes to go to war with each-other over resources. Here comes a boat full of settlers and it wouldn’t be difficult to imagine they were not welcome. Now imagine after the majority of the native population was killed off due to smallpox. The Europeans still had one heck of a time settling with natives living there.
@@RedTeufel The Vikings didn't bring smallpox to the Americas, the Spaniards did in the early 1500's.
@@richardstephens5570 I think you miss understood me. The Vikings could never settle North America because there was a very large population already there.
Philip Jens / Not that many Native Americans actually resided above the Rio Grande (border of Mexico and the US) only about 6 million at its peak, which is TINY considering how vast the US is. And most areas and villages probably weren’t densely populated, so I can’t say millions of natives exactly knew about the Vikings, and probably only a few thousand. The original comment actually makes a lot of sense, as most Natives didn’t seem very protective of their land or violent towards settlers. They likely didn’t trust them either though, and one mishap could set things off, such as supposedly attempting to poison them.
@@ajgerbi I think you have some facts wrong. It was absolutely settled in the coastal regions of North America. Millions of native Americans.
If a more amassed group of Scandinavians would have shown up they may have stayed permanently. But 90 people scraping by just trying to Log, Hunt, and scrounge stood no chance against a group of Natives with excellent terrain knowledge and a foreign warfare tactic. Everyone should realize that Vikings had small populations and couldn’t afford to just send thousands of people to raid or pillage without consequences to the community.
Correct and unlike the legends it was mostly young men that went a víkingr and that has obvious down sides to the villages they come from when they start to lose
There's a theory the vikings would have done just that just as they had conquered Iceland, England, parts of France etc but shortly after they discovered America there was an ice age that made this very difficult and they were wiped out by natives and the cold.
Our ancestors "the frontiermen and land settlers" were all the minority and on their best behavior and wanted no business fighting the natives for the few hundred years they've closely around each other ... now the government that's a different story.
What rare you trying to say? Are you sad that these barbarians did not succeed in killing the natives? Yeah you'd be real happy if they succeeded. But when Adolf Hitler gives u a taste of your own medicine you get real defensive.
If it would Have been a few years earlier before Christianity was pushed on the Scandinavian people .Went from Going to Valhalla after Dying in the battle but you will Return after Feasting,Drinking their Golden Mead with the Gods .The Alfather Odin And The most popular War Gods of them all THOR ! To Christ peace and love is how you get into Heaven.If the Pagan Kings Would have Known about the indians continents and like the Conquistadors (mostly Blue Eyed Blond Spainish Explorers) heard rumors or thought there was Gold !!! The pagan Kings would have easly sent 10,000 plus to take it and all the rich land .Aztec indians were brutal warriors and the same people as the American indians that all came from CHINA .walked a cross the barren straits ice bridge Bout 12000 years ago .And was crushed by the Conquistadors all the sir names of South america are Spainish names . They were completey consumed. Vikings would have killed everyone...And way more Brutal than the Spaniards....Not to mention the BERSERKERS!!! The shock troops the Special Forces !!! They would have faced them first !!!!!
Incredible emotions. A person who does not know how big the world is. Goes to uncharted lands and understands that the world does not end with his shore
Ruth S .Waller how are you? I was actually in the comments section when I came across your comment here so I was thrilled to say Hi to you 😊....hope you're fine and staying safe?
Great job on this video. I enjoyed everything about it..
I remember learning this when I was younger. I always loved reading about Vikings, ancient times, and my favourite thing to learn is all types of mythology especially norse. On the side note great thumbnail ❤️👌🏼
Same i love it
I recognise your profile picture! 😁😁
@@octipuscrime wat is it?
read up on the NE tribes, especially the Iroqouis confederacy. youll be surprised how much in common vikings and N native americans had with each other in religion, justice, and social order.
that you "love it" is likely the reason it's not true
I love these videos about historical instances where a warrior from one culture faces off against a warrior from a different culture. You’re mongol vs samurai video feels very similar to this one, and is one of my favorite videos on UA-cam. I would love to see more content like this video!
Not sure if you’ve seen it yet, but there’s a movie called Red Sun starring Charles Bronson and Toshiro Mifune and at some point in the film, there’s a fight scene between Toshiro’s character (a samurai) and a Native American warrior.
It’s rather brief, but still pretty cool + along the lines of what you’re describing
You're means you are. It's not the possessive your.
Except the norse here weren’t necessarily warriors just farmers and people looking for livable land. The battles would’ve gone much differently if they were actual vikings with mail armor and iron helmets. They were just normal people, in fact on of the most valiant people on the nord side was a regular woman who picked up a wood cutting axe and fought
it would've been so interesting to be a person in that era hearing stories and narratives about legendary heroes, stories of giants and old legendary creatures and lands unexplored discovering the Americas must've been like a blessing from god
When Vikings encountered natives they were in awe that the natives were fighting without armor. It reminded the Vikings of their origins, they respected the natives so much that they too went back to wearing no armor again when they returned to Europe. Enemies at first, allies in the end, learning from one another.
One of my favorite history UA-camrs bro keep this content coming straight in my veins
Thanks for the kind words. Your support is very much appreciated!
Cool to see you here BlackScape.
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@@HistoryDose Love your content man! You're super underrated
Oh damn haven't seen you in a long minute
I've read about this topic many times, but this was different and great and was like hearing about it for the first time. The art really captures the mind and takes you back in time. Great work.
I love Magellan T.V. And this channel.i love history.
Incredible production, incredible script.
Great voice, tone, pace, riveting visuals, and such different and fascinating content. Thankful to have found you. Pls keep bringing us knowledge and histories that are being ignored by mainstream in favor of the same ol' same ol'. We can't get enough of these fresh stories. 💜
The art accompanying this is beautiful, the artist did quite excellent.
Do you know where can i find these arts ? please
@@pangopod2969 first of all, love the Templar waifu pfp, second, I'm not sure, sorry.
@@trenthobson2756 thx ^^ no problem
A fact that needs to be reenacted and depicted on a History Channel. I've never been so impressed by history anymore than the Vikings.
the problem is that it has to be done by either slavs like ukrainians or the english because the americans ruin everything european history they toutch. inserting myths and diversity all over the place like modern america mirrors the world.
And cant be done by scandinavians either due to bias
AMAZING!! it's just like a movie.. love your channel
Your unique storytelling is unmatched in my opinion. Very precise, clear and rhythmic speech. I’m sure that you did not just wake up one day with that gift? Wishing you the best!
I subbed after watching the tsushima battles today and you just have a gold mine of history content that no one appears to talk about. Thank you so much for this.
its so exitcing to learn about my ancestors and their explorations of america!
What an excellent video! And all the art is beautiful too
The music and animations are perfect. I love this channel. As a historian I also really appreciate you telling us about the sources for these stories.
Incredible channel. From the art style to the narration to the sound design. Everything's perfect!
There were talks in my family that some of my ancestors were of the indiginous people.
My grandmother often told stories that they were brought to our home and lived there for years.Some were also from Ireland 😃
They later imigrated to the United colonies in the 18th century 🥸
As a native American. I think the Norse are pretty cool. They connect with nature pretty cool
We respect your people as well.
Hell yeah brother. That’s pretty cool
Rampaging and pillaging while leaving little of benefit is cool? The Romans and British actually left great benefits to the lands they occupied, which are still of benefit today. The Norse just killed and took.
if only you knew even as much as half of it.
sami people of northern scandinavia you should look into
This was such a pleasure to watch. I got lost in the story telling and artwork, fantastic work.
"The Ice Shirt" is a dense novel by William T. Vollman that describes this first contact between Norsemen and First Nations people.
I have been listening to or reading the sagas for many years and I would like to add the part of the story where Freydis engages in the fight with the natives. The story I heard some years ago was not only was she fighting bare breasted but she was bare bellied and was 8-9 months pregnant. The sight of a women who was so aggressively fighting against them and beating the sword on her bare chest and screaming her war cry, that the natives couldn't handle the sight of it and turned and ran away.
i'd love to see more content like this on youtube about first encounters between natives and other civilizations, great video!!
Once again you guys deliver content that keeps the viewers interested and engaged in segments of history often overlooked. Really proud to have this found channel keep it up your channel is one of the best on this platform.
Thanks so much for this. We put a lot of thought into the presentation of each topic, so this is very encouraging to hear!
Such a fantastic presentation!
In norwegian press some decades ago there was the story that a kin group named "Bonde", meaning farmer, had a coat of arms very similar to the on of the kin of Christopher Columbus, living in Italy. Columbus might also mean farmer in italian apparently, though a direct translation is pigeon. So the articles in the norwegian press brought forward the interesting possibility that Columbus got the idea that there was a land to the west of Europe from a direct connection to the Bonde kin group in Norway.
Don't know how much there is to the story, but interesting idea.
I discovered this channel today. Truly, I can say with absolute certainty that I have never been more captivated by the narration and cinematography of any UA-cam channel until now. Fantastic stuff!
I just have to say this is the most stirring and entertaining narration for historical UA-cam documentary I have ever heard. Went to subscribe and realized I am already subscribed. Thank you for putting such detail and work into your words. You should be getting paid by Discovery channel for this level of effort.
Your story telling is perfect I love it new subsriber!
Severed Ways, is amazing a must watch!
What an absolute gem of a channel - accidentally stumbled across you and insta-subbed. Keep up the awesome work man!
This is an absolutely excellent and extremely valuable video. I've also had a deep interest in the history of Vikings in the Americas and being that I am writing a research paper on this topic this video helps a lot.
Great to hear. Be sure to check out the sources in the description for further reading.
@@HistoryDose Thanks History Dose! checking now
Vikings was on another level back then. Much respect to the Nordic countries 🇩🇰🇳🇴🇸🇪. Awesome history
Now go look who had a hand in Russia , Kiev and Ukraine. Look for the Kievan Rus. Where did they come from?
none of them are a match for the germanen they are strongest rutless of the world even the roman empire hired them because they couldnt defeat them
@@thedeathwobblechannel6539 sweden
@@jannah__ lol they were pathetic compared to vikings.
@@sundvallen vikings were germanics
Awesome artwork. Loved the video.
such an under appreciated channel. keep up the great work. this is quickly becoming my favorite channel
This by far is the best quality mini documentary I’ve ever heard.
Love this content 💞
Why is the runestone in Heavner, Oklahoma so greatly ignored? I would definitely check into that if you know nothing about it. It has great insight on the history of Vikings in North America
Only a minute in and I already have chills running down my back. Incredible!
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This is the first time I’ve seen one of your videos, and I’m required to say this was very well made
i will love this narrator forever.
its crazy how vinland saga is heavily based off and acurrate to real life, great video man!
Very good video. I love how theories from different areas of science coincide and strengthen each other. The era in which the Vikings visited was in the mid evil warming period, when it was a much warmer northern hemisphere than today. They were frozen out of Greenland as temps dropped heading into the little ice age and made the journey from Scandinavia too far
The "What if's" are always what makes history so interesting. Although there is no doubt that the vikings settled in North America for a brief period of time, it is fascinating to think about what actually happened during this period. Hopefully more discoveries will tell more interesting stories. First video i've watched from this channel. Really liking the artwork combined with the storytelling. Subscribed!
The only ones that scared off vikings for real, not only retaliated agaisnt them.
@@art.mercadonor5030 natives didint scare them off kid
@@wesscott9621 thats what the video says tho
@@art.mercadonor5030 The Vikings didn't come in large enough numbers to expand, and the natives they encountered didn't have gold and silver to steal.
@@richardstephens5570 true, so your saying that if they wanted they could have colonised north america? I can see that happening, tho not in central and south america. Down there, those were real empires, not just randoms groups
Excellent presentation!
These images are so beautiful.
Thanks! we talk about the meticulous art process in our Live Q&A episodes you can find on the Live tab, or check out the speed painting playlist for a demonstration
I can't believe I've just discovered this channel because this video is great. The writing is absolutely phenomenal, great job.
Btw There are still ancestors of celtic People in South America's Anden.
The Chachapoya
My grandfather immigrated to America from Sweden when he was young. We have written history in our family of our Viking ancestors. Although they were brutal and invasive, they still progressed so much more than other civilizations at the time. I always love hearing about my ancestors history (even if it’s not always good things) keep up the amazing work!!
the vikings were extremely violent and brutal people kill first think later, thats why they didn't have civilisation like greeks and egyptians :)
@@solutions4968
That’s a common misconception. Vikings weren’t just mindless barbarians, they were traders and very skilled seafarers. That’s like saying that all the Greeks were homosexual femboys.
i wouldnt call it "progressed". vikings were nothing special, they were just another marauding group of lazy bandits that assaulted peaceful communities.
@@seanmacguire6898 uh that’s not too far off for the Greeks
@@seanmacguire6898 they were tho
This is so fascinating.
They need a movie series of this..