DYNO SXS! Maverick R, Speed, Pro R and Drag race!
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Freaking EPIC!! The Larue performance guys are so awesome! It was so sweet to go play in their shop and put these 2 beasts on the DYNO!! Maverick R and Speed! Measuring wheel horse power gets the true test of what the machine can actually do. And of course, we had to do a little drag racing! Subscribe to see more!
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the speed sounds horrible, like a chainsaw getting ready to blow
Speed is just gay
That ROBBIE Guy is just a bullshiter and his loyal ROBBIE fans
The Robbie clown car got smoked...Looks five years behind the times. Maybe it'll be competitive with a CF Moto...
These are the real numbers, but keep in mind the power loss in 4x4. The speed would not Dyno in 2x4 because of the built in Torque Management system. There is an estimated 9 HP power loss from the power train according to speed. If the clutch was tuned just for 91 pump gas the stock tune would probably deliver another 15-20 HP but since the clutching is designed for both the 91 pump gas and Speed key on E85 there is a convenience factor there. Just wait for the Speed key and watch the car dominate! I’m not sure what the Speed key is going for, but mine was $1
🤣🤣🤣 @sxsoutlaws2666
Car is already 3yr old lol
I think CFMoto has speed beat, too. Lol
Maybe a 2 seater pro R ? Looks like it might be pretty close 2 seater vs 2 seater. Cool seeing you guys with LaRue!
Maybe even a 2 seat pro R without lights and windshield
For everyone saying the 140-150 whp number is bogus, why did it get waxed by a car that makes 160-170 and weighs the same?
Not saying it isn’t bogus, but the speed is very heavy haha so even with 300 hp it won’t be spectacular
If you dont think theres parasitic loss in driving 4 wheels, and two diffs you dont understand power.
@@richardrawlings181 ok so let’s assume it made 160-170 hp and is also in 4wd, why did it have a terrible launch?
So why did a 2 seat Maverick R that made 215 beat a 4 seat Pro R that made 170 by 1 length?
@@richardrawlings181 wtf are you talking about… what car do you think we are talking about?
this comparsion is useless- compare 1000cc turbo with cvt with same cars !!
It’s not really a comparison. We are just giving you the numbers of the different cars.
ok ;-)@@UTV-A
2 seat pro r beats a maverick r in a drag race.
EVO dyno'd the Maverick R several days ago. They were manually shifting it to see which gears gave better results on the dyno. It made 217 at the tire in fourth and 214 at the tire in fifth. Then they tuned it......
Plus they already have a few Beta tunes and are probably the only company that can unlock the ECU
@heathdietz115 evo said its the easy ecu to get into not the one that needs to be unlocked
EVO told me it is the MG1 ECU, so it is tough to crack.
@@moslereverett well looks like I gave you the wrong info looks like it the harder ecu
2 seat vs 4 seat come on
Meh, let's see them in the dirt.
It’s coming!
Why does the speed front end look like a ‘06 Escalade?
I wouldn’t let @LaRue work on my lawnmower. They don’t stand behind any of their work! You’ve been warned!
Speed is such trash 😂 imagine waiting 4 years and then you get that 🤦🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Should be 4seater against 4seater..
4 seater pro r only got beat by that much. Shoulda got a 2 seater to even it out. Both badass machines. Speed is a joke lol
That new can an is ugly looking the pro r much better all the way around.
The different transmissions make a big difference on how the power gets to the ground. The Can Am DCT trans is a more efficient than the CVT belt transmission. There is a reason the top performance cars are running DCT transmissions. The Porsche PDK is a prime example. Awesome vid guys, keep them coming!
Totally agree gear to gear trans is by far more efficient to putting power down.
I’m going to say there is no way that speed car is passing the sound regs. 93 decibels not very far away at all from that exhaust tip. Just no way it’s passing to get the certification
Hmm that pro r 4 seat is about 400 pounds heavier than the 2 seat. I’d like to watch the drag race maveric r vs 2 seat pro r
@@tristanhipps604 early prediction would be that the pro r would get it off the line because no turbo lag then the maverick will get it at the top end while the speed is weed whacking in the back 😂
Why do these people talk about nanny settings like it’s good? It can’t go fast or it’ll break, how is that some cool “feature” 😂
I believe the speed car doesn’t get full 225 hours until after it gets some miles on it. Part of the break in tuning. Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe that’s what I heard from Todd R.
That sounds like bs. I figured these would be the numbers. Robby never posted numbers. He is probably talking 225 at the crank. The only disadvantage is that the speed wasn't running in just 2wd. I have a speed on order. This is disappointing but hopefully the suspension will be able to push through the whoops over the other high hp cars
4 years ago speed would have been on par with xp turbo it is just behind the top dogs
Speedf moto is behind the times bro. Ballin hard in 2016 against a textron
@@johnnysellssocalSell your deposit and get a different brand.
We almost put a deposit on the Speed. Super glad we didn't.
@@VetStrand doesn't bother me that much. Just a disappointment. I didn't expect it to have 225 to the wheels but 75 hp lost through the drive train seems like a lot. Would be curious to see second opinions on the dyno
Evolution motor sports is working on a e85 tune for the Maverick R that should push it to 300 plus on just tune bone stock!!
Ya I’m excited for that
Why does it sound like someone put a pipe on a leaf blower
Nahaa speed utv without dual clutch transmision, sucks.
Next time race a stock 2 seat pro r against that mav r
I agree, that 4 seat pro r is really heavy,not much comparison here....
Has anyone with a Speed car received a Speed Key as of today?
No. Speed key is a fantasy
I want a shirt and a hat
Pro r with a tune enough to beat can am. Speed is irrelevant at this point😂
Pro r is so linear
150 is not a lot for how much a speed
Car weighs 1000xp would probably keep up with it weight to power ratio
These are the real numbers, but keep in mind the power loss in 4x4. The speed would not Dyno in 2x4 because of the built in Torque Management system. We did run the car for 8 min, and we were up to 170 deg temps, but next time we will let it warm up for 5 min.
There is an estimated 9 HP power loss from the power train according to speed. If the clutch was tuned just for 91 pump gas the stock tune would probably deliver another 15-20 HP but since the clutching is designed for both the 91 pump gas and Speed key on E85 there is a convenience factor there. Just wait for the Speed key and watch the car dominate! I’m not sure what the Speed key is going for, but mine was $1
Now the speed utv needs to race the KRX, and you guys can take wagers before the race. I have a high three digit speed El Jefe LE due mid December, already bought a Rubicon Gladiator so the speed utv is for sale. IM if anyone is intereste.
Lol want to start off with awesome video and i think they are all pretty awesome in there own ways nowwa days depending on what you like. So was wondering if theres a way to dyno them all in 4x4 and a rolling start at 30mph or whatever the speed is limited at? Just throwing some ideas out there because i want to see some more videos! lol keep up the good work!
Great comments! Will do
Agree, as something wasn't right about not being able to disengage 4wd on the Speed. And I believe Robby went a little too safe on customer car tuning. I do know they are capable of way more than what was put down here.
Do not see the joy of buying expensive fuel for your 1 dollar key lol
Fact: They are all 3 great SxS's. My prefernce is the Can-am but I dont think your going to go wrong with any of them. Thanks for this video, nice work!
Brilliant to get this base line on the Speed!
Crazy that the can am maverick x3 is advertised at 200hp and puts 160-170 on the dyno yet speed is advertising 225 and only putting out 150. It sounds like Robby seriously exaggerated those numbers on the speed. The turbo r is advertised at 180 and is putting down similar numbers to the speed on the dyno 😂
Its a Maverick R advertised 240HP not 200
The other car is Pro R 225HP not 180hp
They also had to run the speed in 4x4 other cars in 2 wheel drive.
X3 is 200 just like he said. And 4wd without the front tires is very little difference
@@Snipeuout69 I said x3 not maverick r and I said Polaris turbo r. Read and understand my comment before responding. You’re talking about different cars
@@yourfavoritewelder3162 That was my misunderstanding. I thought you were referring to the cars on the vid.
@@Snipeuout69 nope. Referring to the old cars Robby promised to leave in the dust.
Appreciate you guys showing all these cars. What a time to be alive honestly, when all of the manufacturers have cool cars. Right now I'm looking at a 23 X3 XRC, which is still 4-5 thousand cheaper than the baseline R with QS3's and I think it fits what I want the most. Really curious about the longevity of these DCT's as I love the concept/driving experience but we know this is an expensive game.
That is a very good question. What is the life span of DCT? Slamming all those gears, you would think would wear or have issues in time. What is the repair cost on these? Other than throwing belts, you hardly hear anything about transmission problems for the belt driven rigs. How well do the Honda Tallons DCT hold up?
Thanks for Posting Desert SXS! Oooh those Speed loyalist will be butt hurt and will be posting that its all about the suspension and safety. Not surprised with the dyno results so lets see the track race PLEASE!
Hard cause you introduced another factor. Speed in 4wd. The amount of drag ur getting outta the front diff axels cv wheel bearings. For reference 1 degree of cv angle is 7hp. So be nice to dyno the polaris and can am in 4wd and see difference. Could always pulled front prop shaft out run it 2wd.
Why a 4 seater Pro R vs 2 Seater Maverick R?
Thank you for putting a competent driver in the maverick haha saw another video where the dude was sleeping and got beat every time…
Great video. We have the 2 seat pro r. Would like to see the two seater against the can am. The can am is bad ass.
The Speed is a joke. Sounds like a continues fart, or wheed wacker.
I still haven't seen a video of someone beating on the Speed utv right of the show room floor. Seems like everyone that has one is paranoid about braking it.
Keep up the good work, we love you videos.
On the Maverick R 215 at the wheels would equate to a 11% drive train loss. Thats pretty normal for a automatic transmission. 👍
Wrong! Typical car auto is closer to 20-25%
Arent they cvt not auto
2 seater vs 2 seater would be a fair race
Thanks for the great content!!!! Very informative
Need to run mavericks on dyno in 4 wheel like speed
These are the real numbers, but keep in mind the power loss in 4x4. The speed would not Dyno in 2x4 because of the built in Torque Management system. There is an estimated 9 HP power loss from the power train according to speed. If the clutch was tuned just for 91 pump gas the stock tune would probably deliver another 15-20 HP but since the clutching is designed for both the 91 pump gas and Speed key on E85 there is a convenience factor there. Just wait for the Speed key and watch the car dominate! I’m not sure what the Speed key is going for, but mine was $1
Need to race a 2 seater pro r vs 2 seater can am and see what happens 4 seater vs 2 seater is a big diffraction
Badass video!! Glad someone out there is making real world comparisons
Thinks a dual clutch is less efficient then a cvt😂
No Talon on your shirt makes me sad.
Next to yxz is the talon
Ah. Missed it. I'll definitely buy one now😂
Maybe that new speed tune will run on unicorn tears, oh wait those don’t exist just like the speed key 🤣🤣
But I thought the cars were never going to be delivered….
These are the real numbers, but keep in mind the power loss in 4x4. The speed would not Dyno in 2x4 because of the built in Torque Management system. We did run the car for 8 min, and we were up to 170 deg temps, but next time we will let it warm up for 5 min.
There is an estimated 9 HP power loss from the power train according to speed. If the clutch was tuned just for 91 pump gas the stock tune would probably deliver another 15-20 HP but since the clutching is designed for both the 91 pump gas and Speed key on E85 there is a convenience factor there. Just wait for the Speed key and watch the car dominate! I’m not sure what the Speed key is going for, but mine was $1
@@951prerun99% haven’t lol. And they’ve all broken
@@UTV-Anice copy paste bro you gettin paid for shilling. Also the speed key does NOT exist. It’s just an idea.
you need SAME tire/backwheel to compare
All of the cars are stock
When a team of buddies are competing a 4 seater against a 2 seater and tells you that the 2 seater is faster 😂😂
((((( WOW ))))) They must REALLY know what they’re doing 👍😂👏👏 Great Job !!!
I didn’t know that on a dyno 2 seat to 4seat would make such a difference?
@@desertsxs I was referring to the Race on the street in this video
@@rzrbanshee8588 we have actually raced a pror 2 pror 4 many times against each other and with friends same with a turbos2 and turbos4 many times and shown that the difference is shocking similar on dirt I was surprised every time how close they have been. we only did pavement here because there wasn’t dirt close by.
An x3 beats pro. Dont race it against the best
The can am is in a diff league. Like a pro playin in the minors.
The larue sisters 😂😂😂..
Speed for Sale @ Larue and Speed Car for sale @ Desert SXS !
Clown, put it in the gear that's 1to1 gear ratio and dyno it ONLY in that gear to get your TRUE NUMBER!
Tried it in every gear range to see how it pulled.
Speed key this speed key that let me tune my sh!t
That was also a 4 seat pro r
Need to see a 2 seat pro r ultimate up against the maverick R
2 seat pro R smokes mav R its been proven stock for stock
@@allmotorhash where’s the proof? I’d like to see this.
@@troycruse its on insta but with a tune mav r beats it
Great video..!! You guys got me glued to this channel..!!! Boy I hope the speed key really wakes it up the speed... man I would love a LaRue turbo on my x3... thanks for sharing..!!!
Love the comparisons. Nice work guys.
Now we all know just how high Larue's dyno reads and how overrated the Speed is
These are the real numbers, but keep in mind the power loss in 4x4. The speed would not Dyno in 2x4 because of the built in Torque Management system. There is an estimated 9 HP power loss from the power train according to speed. If the clutch was tuned just for 91 pump gas the stock tune would probably deliver another 15-20 HP but since the clutching is designed for both the 91 pump gas and Speed key on E85 there is a convenience factor there. Just wait for the Speed key and watch the car dominate! I’m not sure what the Speed key is going for, but mine was $1
215 hp on the Dyno rpm pulled 215 ish stock rpm Motorsport has a video of the Mav r doing 215
Ya every dyno seems to be a hair diff that’s why we tried to do all at same place
I'm curious why there is such a large difference in your drag race with the pro R and chupacabra vs the pro R. Makes me wonder if Robby detuned your batch of cars. Maybe chupacabra did clutching? Or maybe the wheel and tire package he runs? It's about a 2-3 car length difference, and that's pretty significant.
We did the drag race multiple times with the same results. It’s the torque management system at the first 30 MPH
@@UTV-A I wonder if those systems get turned off with the speed key?
Robby should have put a 4 cylinder in it.
Yes. When he started this project 2 Cy was fine but now canam and Polaris have stepped up there game that it isn’t enough
My guess is 215whp Maverick R
Super close
Speed stacking Ls like nobody’s business
Robby Gordon, just hand these guys their speed key already so they can be competitive.
Amen!
What clutch and kit are you using in the pro r?
I wish you would give us the boost
Awesome info guys!
to keep my new pro r and turbo it....or get a maverick r...hmmm
I've never seen short burst pulls like that on a dyno.... What is that?
Are you talking about the shift points
@@desertsxs oh it has a manual? At the beginning that first sxs on the dyno seemed like it was just like a 2 second pull and done.
Love this type of video. Keep ‘em coming
Pro r 2 seater should race not a 4 seater the new cam am
At this point it’s somewhat irrelevant. Can ams old x3 is faster than the pro r so why wouldn’t the new model be faster?
@@yourfavoritewelder3162 true thought it might be a little lighter . Good video on the machines
@@yourfavoritewelder3162the maverick r is way heavier and different transmission
@@yourfavoritewelder3162 wrong
I would think a DCT would have far less parasitic loss than a rubber belt driven CVT.
Dyno the speed after 250 miles it still under the break in tune that falls off after 250 miles
2piston engine bad design should at least be 3
This video is hurting feelings
These are the real numbers, but keep in mind the power loss in 4x4. The speed would not Dyno in 2x4 because of the built in Torque Management system. We did run the car for 8 min, and we were up to 170 deg temps, but next time we will let it warm up for 5 min.
There is an estimated 9 HP power loss from the power train according to speed. If the clutch was tuned just for 91 pump gas the stock tune would probably deliver another 15-20 HP but since the clutching is designed for both the 91 pump gas and Speed key on E85 there is a convenience factor there. Just wait for the Speed key and watch the car dominate! I’m not sure what the Speed key is going for, but mine was $1
15:49 = fart can pep boys muffler on a Tercel 😤
What was the safety issue built in the speed for drags
Engine oil temp needs to be at 180 before ripping full throttle
Torque management until 30 Mph.
Wow. Speed is looking anemic compared to the competition. It appears that Robby exaggerated actual HP numbers or has way more loss than all the competition. It is kinda a downer if ya are waiting for a car.
Pro r stock is 180hp. Then when you tell these speed guys the numbers are down they bring up the speed key. They all bring up the speed key like they have been brainwashed. Best thing to tell them is tell them your gonna turn your car aswell.
The Speed Key only adds 75 hp. It would need to put 95% of that to the tires to match the Mav R on pump gas. It is supposed to be 225 hp stock, but only puts 150 to the tires. That's 33% loss. Based on those numbers, the Speed Key will put 200 hp to the tires.
@@nismomike3182 I agree
They had to run it In 4 wheel drive so that isnt a fair dyno with the other cars in 2 wheel
@Snipeuout69 ok call it 160 then
robbie just voided the warranty
Yup slap that speed key at larue and let it eat Chupacraba dude avoids the speed key subject like the plague
I like hub dyno numbers to eliminate traction and tire variables. I still believe Can Am has the two fastest out of the box cars. I think polaris made a mistake with the NA motor most people don't have 6 grand for a turbo.
Most people don’t need or want that much h.p.. most people are just rock climbing or trail riding.
Chupacabra off-road already did a comparison showing the maverick x3 smoke the pro r and speed. They didn’t even need to drop a new car yet 😂
@DUBYA-DUBYA What kinda man doesn't want the most HORSE POWER just joking however in Arizona and most of the west HP to weight is on the top of the priority list especially in the dunes
People with 50k for a sxs do though!
Wow the polaris and speed sound like farm equipment haha
What is a speed key?
300 hp tune but it hasn’t come out yet
Not sure what is going on
Which is best for desert track and dune driving? do either fly balanced or both nose heavy ?
Dune hands down mav r track depends upon how fast you want to go and if you are heavy on throttle mav r will do okay on a jump
Speed will jump better as far as front dropping
18:38 Stole that straight from my TikTok :)
Lol what wheel and offset work on the R?
Would to see your Bikeman stage 3 Pro R on that dyno and drag race the Maverick R
I have a pro r 4 w/stage 3 bikeman kit and it rocks. Beat my friends x3 that has bigger turbo on pump. His car is a 2 seat so I weigh almost 1000 pounds more. I have an x3 2 seater also with Whalen turbo kit and I don’t think my pro r would take it on e85 but pump gas the pro r I’m pretty sure would win handily. My x3 on e85 would probably take it but I think it would be close.
The Speed cars look like a huge disappointment power wise.
Did you ever get your (Speed) key?
No speed is still testing for it
@@desertsxs oh more empty promises from the speed camp. Thank you for the kick ass content though!
@@Dmfpeterson yep. Thank you
Can Larue tune it yet haha
You should talk to RG to request those Expensive utv to come next time with DCT, with CVT you cant gave 6 speed on the fly. speed with 1-3 is just H L and Crawling mode
Canam is EXTREMELY EFFICIENT
Can you imagine waiting for that car like some people dead? It’s a dog.
Mights as well slap the speed key now forget about the warranty tons of speed utv loyalist upset thanks for telling the true consumer truth
People are going to be super happy with the car after an initial learning curve. I’m in love with the car now.
Great video guys and love the Larue shop and style not to mention the PRO R Monster. Hey BRP - we don't brag on Compressor Wheel Exducer Size in this part of the world!!!🙄👎 Hats off to Larue for calling that out in the friendliest of ways! 👍👍
That rebuilt "Arctic Cat " is already behind the curve. Like it aged before it was even released.
So the Speed is down on power and has horrible brakes. Some hardcore fans are going to be in denial. The Speed car is a great looking car, though
You guys did not mention the Polaris motor is twice as big
True, but that car has been out so long, we think everyone knows….
Yes but big difference....no turbo......
giving that dyno the death penalty
Haha! Just wait for the Speed key, we will light it back up!
205
That Pro R is nuts. Crazy numbers with that 4 cylinder.
Stock is only 140 hp 😢 obviously if you put another 15k to 20k
@@totalenergy80stock pro r is 180
@@motorcyclestig8539 stock pro R is 225 HP...
He is talking wheel HP you are talking crank
@@sxswars ah. Thanks for the context
I have a question, if CVT is so good why RG does not use that in his race truck
Bc different drivelines work better for different applications. Why’s his race truck also not have the same rear suspension
Are you referring to his trophy truck? Why would anyone put a cvt behind a high horse power v8 with 1000 plus horsepower that makes no sense when they have specially designed transmission’s that they run in trophy trucks.
@@KC-7mmyes, that’s why would not put a CVT on this RTR machine, yamaha honda and now can am did DCT.
@@porroco Yamaha runs a geared synchronized style trans similar to a dirt bike not a dct. Explain a little more about what you mean with the cvt and his race truck maybe read back what you wrote.
@@KC-7mmi meant speed UTV should come with speed transmision not a velt driven one. Velt on a race truck is not an option.