Pope Pius XII knew about the Holocaust and did nothing?: Last Week in the Church with John Allen Jr.
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- In this episode: Vatican/Beijing relations improving? Pope’s effort to rescue kidnapped Ukrainian children. Pope Pius XII knew about the Holocaust and did nothing? Church weighs in on migration crisis in EU.
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Pius wasn't a hypocrite. At least he didn't speak out but do nothing. Whatever he said or didn't say, he was actually one of the most effective agents for saving Jews in the war.
It seems normal that Pious 12th knew about the holocaust. He apparently knew about the danger many German Catholics faced. Many seem to have joined the jews in the death camps. Certainly, Pious 12th also helped many Jews in Rome during the 2nd World War. I'm certain the holy father did what he could. ❤
Don’t be a fool, everybody knew. He did what he could. What would you have him do
Pius XII could have worn a blue Star of David on his papal cassock! That would have been a strong message!!!!
I Agree, What A Great Suggestion! That Would've Been A Real Message.💖💖💖🙏🇨🇦🇮🇱♾️🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🦅🗽‼️
What did the protestants do
@@fanameshackhlongwane8616 Good freaking question!!!!!! 😾
It's not migration of those needing political asylum..it's a mass invasion of economic migrants into the West paid for by the global8sts
What was he supposed to do? It's a miracle the Vatican wasen't made into ruble ! And the Catholic Church remained intact through WWII
Israel Zolli, the head Rabbi of Rome at the time, converted to Catholicism in no small measure due to Pious XII's hiding Italy's Jews in seminaries & convents. Israel named a forest after Pious XII in gratitude to the Holy Father's defense of Jews during the Nazi reign.
FDR and Churchill knew about the Holocaust, had the military power do actually do something, and they didn’t.
FDR was running the war as Republicans were kissing hitlers fanny. Traitors
I think the Catholic Church needs to stop feeling that every pope needs to be made a saint. I suspect political and administrative skills are the factors that make one a bishop and cardinal.
In normal times yes. With Pope Francis, it's often unclear what skills he brings.
POPE PIUS WAS A HERO AND A LIFE SAVER OF HIS TIMES!!
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏💒🇳🇱🌷
Is it known that Pious the 12th saw the letter? Who was the first international leader to criticize the Nazis? Were Jewish people hidden in the Vatican during the second war? What happened to the Jewish people in the Netherlands after the bishops criticized the Nazis? Did the informant as Pius to not speak out? What happened after Pius the 11th sent an encyclical to Germany?
Apparently you already KNOW the answes so why this STUPID comment?????
Thanks again John
The food crisis in Europe was notoriously covered up and still to this day it's hard to find a video about what the food crisis was like prior to the invasion of Poland
I don't always like what you have to say but I gave you the thumbs up anyways for trying
I agree.
Thousands of Jewish youth were sent to South Africa ahead of the Holocaust. They were preserved but they lost their families
The letter requested the information be confidential as it would have cost the lives of those in Germany who had gathered the information. The Vatican passed information to the Aliies via the US and British ambassadors to the Holy See who were in Rome throught the war. The Vatican was neutral. I know of Eastern rite priest who was also an officer in the Italian Army. He was given secret instructions to travel in the East gathering information. Because of his status as an Italian officer he was able to travel there. All information was passed to the Allies. As is widely know they knew about the death camps and could have bombed the railways and the camps but it was thought it would not have stopped the mass murder. Not only did all churches in Rome give their church plate (chalice and pattens) to be melted and paid to save the Jews in Rome many thousands were hidden inside monasteries and convents.
John you know I have great affection for you and while noble and game of you to support Vatican efforts in resolving various aspects of the troubles in Ukraine - always trying to say something good - I do feel that in garnering points as a good Catholic, you are losing twice as many against the account marked "good journalism".
Indeed, some of the signs you refer to are not discouraging - as you said, a high ranking Vatican prelate having a conflab with a CCP mandarin is indeed a unique historic occurrence - furthermore, if Zuppe's presence there has acted in some small way as the grain of sand inside the Kremlin's shell - and created at Moscow a sensation of a combination of jealousy and curiosity such that the cardinal's return to Moscow may produce some talks - well great. But for you to be reading clear, letters and symbols in the smoke of what, at the moment, is merely a bonfire, is stretching "seeing things positively" frankly to beyond its breaking point. I'm not even sure you believed it very enthusiastically and that's a pity as I once read you make Vatican cardinals fuming, as they can never work out what you think. OK, it would be surprising if you didn't make some expression of your personal wish to see some crumbs of success - even just a minor grain deal concession. But I can read you like a textbook - you there in Rome all the way from here in London: you're already conflating the most tenuous possible current events with several major future breakthroughs, driving your wagons hard through the thorn thickets and other scrub. You frequently advise how long things take to happen at the Vatican, so why not take your own usually excellent advice, cool your jets and hold off a bit with already sending out the invites to the party. Believe me, everyone understands the Pope wants to do anything he can - but until he can swap out the white soutane for camo and go serve at the front line - it may be better for the Pope and his staff to keep their own counsel 🫤 We all know the Pope would like nothing more than to see the cessation of the appalling losses - but everyone already knows how that can be achieved John - there is no mystery here, no complication, no deep seated difficulties, no nuances or even questions of simple logistics. All that needs to happen is for President Puta to give the orders to his Army chiefs to withdraw back to behind Russian legal borders. FYI laws passed unilaterally by Puta, don't count. I'm referring to well defined borders with which most are familiar and comfortable.
Would the Pope have wanted his chief of staff "to sit down and have a nice chat with Göring"?
There are just times when you have to choose and of course I think the notion that the Vatican COULD play a role, but I'm certain on this occasion its well meaning presence is not really being felt by the party which really matters.
Staying silent and trying to meditate will place His Holiness in history like Chamberlain going to Germany to treat Hitler. Well intentioned, but will appear weak and venal to most. The Pope and his team should, even in moderate, diplomatic terms, l nevertheless be unequivocal that Puta is wrong, should desist forthwith and withdraw. Any meetings or negotiations should be about how many hundreds of billions of dollars war reparations Russia will be paying over to Ukraine - and who will run the country when Puta hands himself to the ICJ to await answering the many many war crimes charges levelled again him.
When did the Pope get so fretful and pusillanimous?
And Pope Francis knows about the genocide in Gaza as we speak, and is also failing to name and blame the culprits!
Could the Holy Father have done better to prevent the Holocaust? Like “actively” confronting Adolf about the cruel unwarranted murder of Jews? What if?
The letter specifically speaks of "Poles and Jews" being killed. Critics of Pius conclude, based on this evidence, that Pius disregarded Jewish lives; but they have nothing to say -- they don't care about -- the "Poles" who were likewise being killed.
But it follows that if the letter proves that Pius disregarded or minimized the loss of Jewish lives, then he must have likewise disregarded or minimized the loss of **Catholic** lives. But does anyone really believe this? Of course not. Rather, the Pope's critics simply ignore the absurd implications of their argument in their rush to impose a tendentious reading of the evidence that disparages the Pope to the maximum extent possible.
Whats he supposed to do send his army to kick the Nazi out of Rome? Read"The Myth of Hitlers Pope" written by Rabbi David Dalin !
Who is this "President Pewtin" you keep referring to?
A more balanced discussion of the letter than Mr. Allen provides is set forth here: ua-cam.com/video/5BuV6razxi8/v-deo.html&ab_channel=EWTN
It is sad to see Mr Allen doing his utmost to defend stupid political moves of Pope Francis (defending at the same time his own position, as well as his wife's travels on Pope's trips).
Cardinal Zuppi's star keeps rising. I would rank him third in the race to be the next pope, closely behind Cardinals Turkson and Taigle.
Tagle is long cooked. Yesterday's man.
I wonder why you have not covered why Pope Francis has not traveled to the country of his birth since becoming Pope. You play favorites and would rather attack Pope Pius than address Pope Francis lack of pastoral concern for Argentina. Just an observation.
If we take another look at this period of time we now know more about what really went on in Eastern Europe and Russia since the collapse of the iron current. Do some real scholarship. Even Wikipedia admits 32 million Christians died in the 70 years of atheist communism. Christians scholars double this number to 60 million or 30% of the population of Russia alone. Under Nazis Germany 14 million Roman Catholic Polish people died in force labor or consentration camps per the Nuremberg trials . In the first three days after the Nazi invaded Hungary and Chekoslavakia , they rounded up and executed all of the Roman Catholic clergy. This is one of the reasons the Vatican was silent as the Nazis murdered all religious opposition. Pope JPIi studied underground to become a priest. We need more scholarship on the persecution of Christians during atheist communism and Nazism as both ideologies are Antichrist.
History is repeating itself again. Please report on the slaughter of Christians during this period of time. The numbers are staggering, and yes dwarf the Jewish only 3 to 6 million who died. Hopefully some honest scholarship will emerge.
After 6 min, 30 sec, narrator has still not addressed the click bait title. You are wasting my life. Bye!
Stále neverim ako mohol 1500 ročnú pomer v Islame so 7 ročnou
He might have known, but the Jews are not his flock. The Pope's job is to protect the baptised Catholics.
Hey, time for you to go reread Nostra Aetate! Didn't ya know that they're our elder brothers in the faith? Lol.
I see John is back on the Pope Francis is a super subtle genius diplomat bandwagon yet again.
Yawn*
He's desperate to extract something positive from this awful papacy.
Of course Pope Francis is no where near as bad as Pope Pius Xll according to the Left and hey presto!
Sister P must have been getting it from Pius. Lovers.