EV Carnage MG 4 SE Milk Float Full Test
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Finally got my hands on one of these and the results were very surprising. Also featuring a surprise guest appearance from a Mclaren and comparisons with jeans and personal stereos #futuremyarse #evcars #electriccar #electricvehicle #car #electricvans
400 volts and bargain basement Chinese build quality. What could possibly go wrong?
It's an MG. It won't go over 200 miles without stopping for service. The tradition continues.
It’s not an MG mate I’ve got an MG F and it ain’t anything like this 💩
@@Captain_Scarlet_SIG it's a joke.
So you own an F....sorry bout that.
Miss my old T16 Turbo powered van! That put few modern hot hatches bait up! 🇬🇧🇬🇧💪⛽💪🇬🇧🇬🇧! Can keep all the Chinese ones! Unless you want too supply some more body repair panels! 😂🤣😜
It's a MGLGTBQ
It's not an engine, it's not a car, it's a Mobility Scooter with attitude.....
My wifes Mobility Scooter has lead acid batteries, which makes it a hell of a lot safer by comparison!
@@andemnon657 I am also in that position hence my comment, yes they are safer...😁
@@andemnon657😂😂😂😂😂😂
And is an ICE car a lawn mover with attitude?
@@timsbird1971 I'll take that, at least it does something - cuts grass and collects it gracefully...🤣🤣
It's all fun and games until it bursts into flames.
The future My ASS.
Cheers from Australia 👍
Except an EV is 1/6th as likely to burst into flames as an ICE car and 1/20th as likely as a hybrid, genius.
But it more than compensates with toxicity of its plasma demise; fulfilling very effective long term health impairment or death to those downwind and of course the toxins in environment; impossible to clean up and now in the food chain for all to enjoy. Lithium is a neurological cosh that lobotomizes and stupefies; maybe all going to plan. the Cobalt Kiddies Collective applaud your enthusiasm and niavety @@timsbird1971
@@timsbird1971 twaddle
Tim’s Bird has more miles on her than an EV
@@timsbird1971 Hey EV loverboy.
Try putting out that EV fire that is less likely to catch on fire😂😂.
Burn baby burn because you ain't putting out that fire🤣🤣
Even if you normally only paddle around locally milk floats aren’t perfect. Our friend bought a BMW i3 (is that right?) last year because all she does is local runs and a 20 mile run to her son’s who has a home charger. All fine until last week she had a call that her father 200 odd miles away had been taken ill. She wanted to get to him immediately- but wait……virtually no charge in the car so she had to go find a charger - luckily there’s one fairly near - charge and then stop and charge again because the bloody thing has no range. So it took her an extra 3 hours to get there. She’s now driving a one year old 3 series petrol. Lesson learned.
Almost forgot to say…. the dealer she bought the 3 series from didn’t want her milk float, so now she has to try and sell it privately. Good luck!
Yep, MANY times with grandparents or in-law's parents, I've had to make a 200 mile dash with only a moment's notice. I'm always reminded of it, when I vaguely start pondering potential ownership of an EV. And it always dissuades me.
That's a total made up load of tosh.
@@timsbird1971of course it is because you say so.
@@gilleyb1900 no - because it's not consistent and the times make no sense.
I think timbsbird bought a milk float and now he’s pissed because it’s not worth a dime ⚡️💩
In 39 years of motoring i have barely spent much more than £24k cumulatively on all the cars i have owned in that time. You really couldnt pay me to drive an EV until cost/range/charge time is on par with ICE , which of course they never will.
Indeed, I bought an A4 for £7k back in 2008, sold it for £2k after owning it for 9 years, then bought a C Class for £12k, sold it for £6k (would've been higher if not for ULEZ), now bought a 5 series for £12k with a 1 year warranty, planning to sell it for £11k in a year when I move to Australia - total £13k over 17 years and these were all really comfortable German saloons.
They also all do 60mpg, so cost about half per mile to run vs 70p/kWh public chargers in an EV... How many screws must you have loose to buy one of these MGs...
At 60mpg that's around 11.5 pence per mile so around 10x the cost if you charge from home on the correct tariff
@@bwarey52 half the population can't charge at home, I live in a cul de sac and the parking is about 20m away from the house, similar issues with many apartment buildings, even in new builds, most do not have EV charging still. But regardless, your maths is flawed.
Even if you do have a night tariff, that would increase your average day electricity bill by £20 or so, so if you drive the UK average of 7k miles per year, you're paying 4p per mile to charge but an extra 5p per mile in extra electricity costs - so at that point, your saving is only about 30% for a higher purchase price and inconvenience, hardly 10x. This 30% saving quickly evaporates if you charge on public chargers with any kind of frequency.
Then you have either additional depreciation or a battery replacement which on average happens at 8-10 years, that averages around 14.7p / mile in battery depreciation or replacement costs - so no matter how you swing it, even with a night tariff you're still looking at around 24p / mile vs 11.5p / mile with diesel.
This is actually assuming you can get the 10p / kWh tariff that was available last year, just checked the latest from Octopus in RM3 and the cheapest is now 16.58p / kWh, wowza! - I wouldn't rely on those discounted night rates to last...
@@DigiDriftZone British gas have just released a 5p tariff ..👍
@@DigiDriftZone you can try and blind people with lot's of flawed data but only a few luddites will listen. You just said the life or a battery is 8/10 year's when the majority of manufacturers offer 8 year warranty!
EV, love the tech, hate the price... Paid £100...for my 1.6 diesel. Into year 8 now and with 226 thousand miles on clock... Still going strong 😊
What make and model, please ? :-)
@@hunchanchoc8418 citroen xsara Picasso... Doubles as the work van......
And it'll probably keep going to 500k miles if maintained. At 200k, it's just run in.
EV, I hate them. No character at all. Just so boring.
So its got a Mk1 Austin Allegro style steering wheel & a Mk2 Austin 1100 style speedo red strip on your dashboard. So is the milkfloat sort of retro or was BL years ahead of their time?
Ha ha nice to see that someone else still remembers the wacky Allegro steering wheel! 👍
Same a some Porsches of Ferraris or Audis.....🙄
Allegro years ahead of its time.
The Austin Allegro came with a square steering wheel. So nowt new there.
The star is a battery discharge button like most buttons on an EV are.
The star actually changes the temperature and the fan speed so you can do it without taking your eyes off the road. Or you can assign it something else, but that's the most popular. You set these buttons up so you don't normally have to touch the centre screen while you're driving.
But you have to have a wee bit of brain to comprehend this, which nobody who refers to an EV as a "milk float" actually has, so there is that.
@@moragkerr9577 It was a joke.
@@scaryfakevirus I know. But sometimes a serious reply to a joke can be informative.
@@moragkerr9577 Yes that's correct, but I didn't think you realised.🙂
@@scaryfakevirus Just took the opportunity to explain, since the idiot who made the video didn't. He wants to diss EVs, I get that, but driving around aimlessly in a car you haven't made any effort to familiarise yourself with and sneering about how you don't know how to make it do this or that therefore it's rubbish is something anyone can do, with any car.
Once you DO know how everything works there are some annoying foibles (which are being fixed with software updates), but overall it's a joy to drive and fantastic value for money. If you want to sneer, at least take the trouble to find a genuine issue to sneer at.
As my wife always says “that’s not an MG”. By the way she owned several classic sports cars including MGBGT. Now if i buy an MG it will be a classic BGT 😊. Great video as always. Very informative and entertaining 🤣
Rather have Austin Alegro me rocking a Montego estate and a rover 420 diesel never no Chinese MG for me best of British scrap for ever! The future is to drive stuff from the past! Keep old school cars rolling is best recycling!
Oh how's they laughed when the quartic steering wheel was fitted to the Allegro, just because it was British, and now they all have them and nobody bats an eyelid.
I agree but Austin forgot to attach it to the steering column
My MG4 is perfect. I’ve had it for just over a year without any problems. It can easily do 200 miles without a charge, summer and winter. Cost peanuts to run from a home charger. Yearly service charge £108. After 7000 miles I have 5mm on the tyres. What’s not to like?
Do you have any guilt in supporting communist foreign state instead of local English manufacture?
@@dmitrikhmelevski9214 it'd be a bit limiting if you stick to English manufacture, but I agree buying Chinese isn't ideal. Same with a lot of products though, whether it's clothes, phones or tat off ebay, people don't care if it's cheap.
How much has it depreciated in that year though? Is the range the same now as it was a year ago?
@@dmitrikhmelevski9214 No.
@@andrewwaller5913 Range exactly the same (in common with all MG4 owners) . No plans to sell the car as it is so good, so no loss incurred. They don’t catch fire either !
It’s re-VOLTing
I see what you did there....😁
Watt?
@@Glamrock01 - I don’t charge for that comment
Who do you think you are? The mac master?
@@deansh8506 - I wish! I’d like to be in Australia
I’ve got a 16 year old VW Caravelle and I have no interest in changing it for a new car. It cost me £19k twelve years ago and has a range of 600 miles. There is no way an EV would last that long for that money.
Brilliant vids buddy
A round rip to my hospital, which has NO EV charging points, the nearest being two miles away on an industrial estate would mean that I would get one day's charge out of one an have to recharge for the next day. This week I have been going every day for radiotherapy. Before that I have been going up every three weeks for months of chemo. That's he reality of these daft toys for rich people.
How many EVs do I see in the cancer wing car park? Yes, that's right, none.
Great video & just subbed 👍
I still will never buy an EV but it's funny that the Chinese can do a better job of an EV than the rest of the world.
There is absolutely nothing that the Chinese can do better than the rest of the world.
It will be interesting to see what you would get one for as a one year or 18 months old car with low mileage . Presumably it will lose at least 50% of its value , as a shopping trolley it might not be a bad bet . Might be , maybe , could be , possible, Ok I don’t know so don’t shoot the messenger 😂
Lots on ebay from around 18 grand (so probably around £12-14k trade-in) - 1 year old and nominal mileage, none of them seem to be selling.@@Mc674bo
@@poliziagrammaticale9430They make nice Chinese food 😂
Or as they call it, food!
Many pre-registered base models with delivery miles only available on AutoTrader for around £20k
Keys to being OK-ish:
built off a bespoke platform, not batteries and motors stuffed into old ICE design
3.7 to 4.2 miles per KWh efficiency depending on model
Long Range version can do 300+ miles. Pre Reg. with delivery miles on Auto Trader around £23k
Chinese underpricing or European makers taking the piss? Bit of both really
Watched Father Ted and saw an actual milk float. Hilarious and probably a better utility vehicle.
Speed 3 ha ha
These were £27k last year. They must be discounting them to shift stock. Wonder what second hand values will be.
Square steering wheel as seen on Austin Allegro in the seventies.
All EV makers are dropping prices because Tesla did and it rolled down hill. Sales numbers have been pretty static. But why bother with facts if you regularly watch this channel.
That’s the problem with EV’s they don’t roll down hill, maybe if they did it would extend the range to within 30% of claimed range.
@@daverichardson8918 what rubbish are you going on about?
@@timsbird1971 What I am saying Milk floats are💩 and only brainwashed dumbasses buy them
@@daverichardson8918 They regen when going down hill, something ice cars don't do. Also this saves on brakes.
Basically if you must have an EV this seems the one to try out. Cheap with reasonable range, looks OK, not too big like a brick. I have heard that the support from MG is dire though
Sqarial = Ariel Square 4, British motorbike of yore.
Wasn't that steering wheel inspired by the Austin Aggro?
Not sure which model of MG it was but, I witnessed a near new one on fire in Cheshire (February this year) - it didn't do anything to improve my opinion of them!
a Corsa is 19k new with 500 mile range and it's a much nicer ride in petrol, why would you get this lol - what's the range on this from 20-80% battery with the heating on at 70mph, about 80 miles (that's brand new, after 3 years, 70miles)? - hell you can get the mg3 in petrol for £14k if you're on a budget.
To be honest a vauxhall corsa is a joke and always have been. I made the mistake when I was young of buying one and vowed never to waste my money on such rubbish again or a vauxhall car.
I own a mg hs and in my opinion it's one of the best cars I've ever owned best thing about it its petrol
Did you see that tosh last night on Channel 5, Petrol Vs Electric.
Tony,well delivered,great star,summed it up and delvered the finale,great job. also very fair as well.
Remember allegros they did actually have a square steering wheel.
Yes, and 50 years later Allegros are still trundling around? These pieces of shit?
The norm indeed, the range quoted by manufacturers is from that silly test where they use a rolling road and mostly run at 30 miles an hour equivalent. WITHOUT DRAG OR HILLS.
Austin Allegro steering wheel?
The "Quartic" steering wheel, 70's British Leyland at their finest. First thing I thought as well!
Austin Allegro build quality 😂
Yes, but they attached it to the steering column in the electric car.. dam Chinese
It’s a modern FSO , Lada , Yugo , etc .
But for £12,500 I could buy a Kia picanta petrol and keep it about 12 years so almost a 2 for 1 deal ! 😂
Except in that time you will be spending more than £24,000 on fuel. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@alanc286Thank god power is free
Assuming 12 years at the UK average of 8k miles per year, you'd be looking at around £10k in petrol assuming £1.40 / litre and 60mpg.
Contrast that if you cannot charge at home, an EV with public charging would be about £23k in electricity at a generous 60p/kWh.
@@alanc286 public chargers cost more than petrol. And the depreciation is far less on a petrol car
When you do eventually scrap the car you get £3-400 , where a “scrap my car” quote on an EV only offered £10!
With 200m range, it would be annoying as an ICE vehicle. If I have to stop every other day for gasoline, I want to be driving a Ford Mustang V8!! Not a golf cart. As an EV it becomes even more annoying. How long does it take that thing to charge?
8 hours on a slow charger (e.g. your Tescos/Asdas, etc), about an hour on rapid chargers that usually cost about double per mile vs your common diesel.
Hyundai, I 10 seven grand 18,000 miles 53 miles to the gallon who wants a milk float 2019
can you test drive the byd atto 3
£24,000? For that? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You could pay £28k for a new petrol Focus if you prefer.
@@Brian-om2hh Or £14k for a new petrol MG3 if you want similar quality to this EV.
@@Brian-om2hh - no thanks. FORD…Found On Road Dead / Fix Or Repair Daily. I’ll stick to my 22-year old Toyota.
The people moaning about EV's think the world is flat and can't afford anything but old bangers.
I think the steering wheel is an updated version of the on fitted to the Austin Allegro from the late seventies
Car expert my arse - Tony is as clueless as ever.
EV nonce alert!
Two charging stations near me were running off a generator.....oh dear the irony.
Have no fear they are telling us that batteries are about to be much improved!! OK I'll wait or should I rush out and but a BetaMax before they bring out the VHS!!! Doh!
It's a Chinese MG a badge on wheels.
200 mile range my arse.
He did 32 with the drop showing 48. Means he's gonna get around 130 miles. So less than 2 hours driving before he's got to waste hours at a charger again, paying 79p per kwh. Yep. Future? My arse
So 32 miles used 48 miles of your range ! That's 50% extra off your range!!
The twin motor AWD MG4 X-Power is a a shade over $AUD60,000 (£31,500) in Australia and it’s good for a 3.8 Sec 0-100km/h. That’s going to easily take care any 6.2L Holden high performance V8 or Golf R. Lacks a bit on interior style and luxury features though. For your money for that base model, we would get the up-spec long range RWD.
Woop, one pull and it would be out of juice and the Holden would just sail by with a smug look on their face.
@@drewukdrewThe range is about 400km ...
LO.L After a quarter mile the v8 would smoke the EV junk.😉
@@mikehunt-w8u I suggest you watch some of the drag races on UA-cam that pit the MG4 X-Power against some serious supercars before you make an even bigger fool of yourself.
But it's still a crappy milk float
My jeans are badly fitting, as in they look bad on me, but comfortable and a cheap from Next, I guess I could qualify for one of these milk-floats. Never had a Sony Walkman, but had a personal cassette player with a radio as well. The radio never worked
Has the drivers door jammed yet? You could get a corolla for 28k and guess which one will still work in ten years.
It is just a milk float! 100% correct
Funny how you can’t touch your mobile in a car but you can mess on with the in car TV screens these days!
Sounds like a Kenwood Chef, I bet.
Star buttons...user defined buttons
Scalextric, without the track.
Cmon Tony,how about running it with the heater on,ect.Then we will get an idea on range,eh.
Where did you get a brand new MG4 SE for £24,000? Inquiring minds want to know.
Only the best from Chairman LMAO
Quartic steering wheel from a 1973 Allegro!
how much it lose me after a year with 30k miles on it? what is difference in running costs over this time? does it pay to have a slow pain in ass car that would take 2 - 4 charges for me to visit my family one way?
Why ask rhetorical questions?
Donald Pleasance's mad cousin Vinnie.
TBF, I would also not recommend buying a McLaren.
You must have a shit camera mount. No other UA-camrs have wobbly cameras on an MG4 driving reviews
Maybe shocks, bushes or mounts have already gone.
One of you best rants, keep it up.
Interesting review and very kind 😊
Tbf the Chinese did start with a completely shite product when they bought into it. If they stick with the heritage thing it'll be full of holes in 6 months, which will be spot on in the summer, no aircon needed and added range.
For a minute there NARG you were convincing me i should have that car.then I woke up in a cold sweat.🤣✌️🙏🫶🏴 brilliant vid,again.
austin allegro steering wheel
24K...it is made where? Should we support our local manufacture instead of foreign communist state? Do we have any choice of cars made in England for similar price? Why it is called EVs? Is this even a car? How often the software is needed to be updated? How soon the manufacture will tell than no more software is available and you would need to replace it? Is this a really wise choice for a reasonable man?
No affordable British cars. Those built in UK are foreign owned or low volume high price. Software updates and support ending after a few years is the same in most modern cars. ICE cars are also stuffed full of electronics and the chips are in short supply and could be unavailable, just like EVs
what about "your indirect funding of that vile regime in Saudi Arabia" EVERY TIME you fill up.
Apparently, EVs are more prone to rust than ICE vehicles
😂😂Dear oh dear. A car for the people that can’t afford a Corsa.
It's still overpriced!
Try the Cupra Formentor hybrid. I have a long, long list of issues with mine.
so what was its range in the end? And what is its range in "normal" non-motorway driving?
If the only selling feature of that Chinese heap is the price well they can shove that as well cos for that price I can buy the 2 ford focus’s and one ford transit we’ve got 25 times over 😂😂😂😂
Future MY ARSE
That vibration is terrible,
Lose 1/3 of range if you get out of town? That isn't 200 miles range, that 134 miles range from 100 to Zero! If you went 80% to 20% you would be looking for a charger every hour. The square steering wheel doesn't bother me, it's the square wheels on the ground! I hope to goodness that camera has absolutely no stabilization. If the camera has Electronic or other stabilization, you are in danger of a kidney falling out!
So let me get this right Tony. For 24 Grand you can buy a milk float which when on a perfectly smooth motorway makes you feel like you're on a DoT washboard test track?
Thanks, but I'll pass 😂
When it comes down to it, an EV might make sense in an urban area. Vans and cars that only get around a city, that is where an EV could shine. However for ceoss country trips you need a proper car, the proff is in the range. Either of my gasoline powered vehicles will travel 450 miles to a tank on the highway, even if I decide to drive 80mph. An EV won't, they might go 300 miles at 55mph. If a person only drives around town, well within range of a charger, forgetting the issue of where all the needed peak electricity needs to come from, an EV might make sense, but you'll still need a proper car to go out of town. Which facts will prove that a regular car or van is far more efficient driving on the highway than an EV has proven to be.
I think you are one of the few people who have thought properly about EVS. They are better for city trips than ice cars and visa versa on long trips. People just have to be honest what they need cars for and how long they drive them every day.
it seems to be faster than a mc laren ;;;
I'll keep my diesel.
I'm very mindful that I was able to buy an ex-Demo top of the range 2.2l diesel Frontera in 1995 for TWELVE Grand, 600 miles on the clock, all the goodies including multi-disk CD changer. Just shows how severe UK inflation has been to the currency value over the past 30 years.
24k is not cheap for the average working man
Free to good ( or stupid) home.
I don’t agree with a lot of your opinions about EVs, but I thought this was a very fair review. This what we need, fair reviews and comments regardless of whether you are pro EV or pro ICE. They are not right for everyone. Mine has a range of 300 miles and cheap to charge overnight at home. Can’t remember last time I drive more than 300 in a day. Public chargers are very expensive although I can use rapid charging so not a long stop. If I need to use one once in a blue moon then it isn’t a problem. However, if I couldn’t charge at home or needed to drive long distances on a regular basis then it wouldn’t be right for me. Depreciation isn’t a concern for me as I will probably keep for 8 to 10 years, at which point most cars are worth very little
What a small minded person you are. Here in NZ the MG4 cost me £19,300, it's best qualities are it's rear wheel drive, and LFP battery. We have fantastic windy roads, not boring straight motorways. My MG4 will go around a 45km speed marked bend at 80km fully planted and controlled. The LFP battery can charge (at night with FREE electrons) to 100%, and in two recent scheduled power maintenance outages it powered my whole house. Driven it 2,500kms and it has cost me ZERO $.
Why would anyone want a Chinese car made in a factory that is owned by the CCP? SAIC, MG's parent company, is now facing accusations that parts for their cars are being made by Uyghurs under forced-labour conditions. I know many New Zealanders look up to China these days, especially since the pandemic, but the overwhelming majority of Westerners don't.
But I don't want to spend £24K on any car, especially when I can get a much better ICE one than this for a lot less. Also, it's Chinese.
MGLGBTQ ❤
Perhaps MG is looking to it’s “heritage “ with the Allegro tribute quartic steering wheel? So it’s crap but better value than EVs from VW Vauxhall etc ?
These prices do make me laugh, they're utterly ridiculous, even at "only" £24k for that Chinese pos! But then again, the last time I paid attention to new car prices was over 20 years ago.
Mind, used car prices are just as ridiculous now, £3k-£6k used to get you something fairly decent with at least 5 yrs left in it, now you need to spend at least £8k, partly because of these bloody milk floats being forced upon us! 🤬🤬
Tell me about it, in 2008 I bought a 4 year old Audi A4 for £7k, I kept it for 9 years (putting about 70k miles on it), it was extremely reliable, only thing that went wrong with it was a £150 EU mandated valve. I just checked the plate and it's still someone's daily driver today, with almost 200k miles on the clock at 20 years of age. That's just not possible with these milk floats even at triple the price...
Milk float for milquetoast?
Compare that ridiculous screen dominated dashboard with the beautiful ones on the classic 50’s Chevy’s or Cadillacs . Those were works of art in comparison. That is dreary and uninspired by comparison. Probably just like the rest of that glorified golf cart.
Pointless excercise unless you do it in winter with heating and demisting required - bet you wont get anything near 200 miles range then
McLaren SLR overtaken by a milk float 😂😂😂
Surely evolution should mean that what comes next should be better than what it replaces and not worse.
🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🍺🍺👏👏👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️🥇
If you’re worried about looking cool, you won’t be in an EV!
Firstly at £24000 it's an expensive car in Australia and its a Chinese built vehicle and unfortunately we get them in Australia also the petrol ones l will never buy a Chinese built vehicle because they are crap also the MG3 the petrol hatchback is one of the cheapest cars at about aud $20000 is one of the cheapest cars in Australia still wouldn't buy one
32 miles depletes by 48 giving an expected revised actual range of 133 miles. Fraudulent description yet again; strange how trading standards do not intervene. Should have used 16% yet shows 75.5% remaining and not 84%. Range remaining shows 151 of expected 168 residual which is 90% but still not credible. However factoring in using battery between 20 and 80% charge to maximize life of the battery means actual usable range of 80 miles when new and will reduce with use and especially with any fast charges or charges to 100% . The battery cost over ten years is likely more than any fuel cost of any ICE for that period even before tyres in equation; including ALL charging costs regardless if all at home cheap rate or even free and doubtless before inevitable hiking electric prices (for Govt lost revenue on fuels) are considered. The roading repairs and barrier upgrades will mean even higher charges are inevitable. Still a lemon even if the cheapest four wheeled legitimatized dirty bomb. Car dealers should have sold scalextric "cars" for the price of the ICE and given a "free" ICE to meet govt criteria appropriately and not acknowledged and endorsed tyranny. (and sell twice as many "cars") Magnetic field strengths and EMF evaluation?
Yeah I don't know why this seemed to only be part of a video. We never got the range at then end. We never got any other driving bar motorway. Not one of the best from him