Only if they have somewhere to charge, land is expensive in 15 minute cities, well it is now, but greenies that won't do a days work for a days pay will get priced out and things will change.
@@TomSmith-cv8hk knowing the powers to be they will assign those who don't have a job or have a job in a company that they don't want to see trading anymore, a place in the big warehouses with smile on the side of them.
Try one of the new Peugeot 3008e. Put the heated seats on, lights on, rear window and go up a slight hill. Watch the miles drop off. Try using the aircon! If you have a few people in and put the shopping in the boot, it shows too. Nice to look at with all the tech, but nowhere near quoted range figures. It weighs as much as a Range Rover, so wallows about and tips in bends. I really don't like it. I've seen better designs that feel less cramped inside.
I regularly drive from Liverpool to Helston, Cornwall, 380 miles. I fill up my tank (£110), and off we go. Plenty of short comfort breaks as my wife has a serious back condition. On a clear run we can do the run in under 8hrs and still have half a tank of fuel even when lights, wipers and air con are on! The car is a Jaguar XJ 3ltr diesel. So no range anxiety just plain sailing in luxury. Great vid, crack on son.
My friend has one to deliver fixings to local tradies - He bought it cheap used, cheaper than an diesel van (which seem to be at a premium in the south west) and runs it for 3 p a mile.
@@lnomgaudas1307 What's imaginary? We all know (well you lot might not) you can get cheap electricity for 7.5p a kWh on Octopus Energy, and you know how this bloke is always wanging on about depreciation, well that actually helps if you are buying something that's a few years old - decent business decision in my book . Sorry it couldn't be me, but I don't have to deliver anything.
You've got me in deep trouble with management, everytime I go passed a milkfloat I say 'Future my arse' an she's getting fed up with it but I just can't help myself. You do make me smile old son keep the video's coming I luv'em and they are cheaper than Jim Davidson on Ustreame.🤣🤣
I've been retired now for almost ten years but I worked for a national company, we used to bring our vehicles home at night, I had to park away from my address so no chance of charging at home and why should I pay to charge the company vehicle anyway, we used to drive approximately 200 miles a day making 60 + drops on a good day this would take around 12 hours on a bad day 16 hours + . There's no way you could do that in a milkfloat.
I’m on my second Vivaro - diesel (of course) Can honestly say, I’ve had zero trouble in motoring with my job as an electrician. My stress levels are minimal. No looking at the fuel gauge every five minutes to increase the heart rate and stress (range anxiety I believe) But if as you say 88 mile range is pathetic, would it be lower if fully laden ? Basically they’re garbage.
I drove 295 miles from a town in North Netherlands to the Channel Tunnel nonstop (4 hours 45 minutes) at an average of 61 MPH and 60MPG, then straight the other side straight to Farnborough Hampshire, still had over 200 miles of range. In a 2.0 litre diesel Skoda Octavia.
@tucoramirez3333Watched a vid recently where they went from Morocco to Heathrow in a Bluemotion Passat... They got 1480 miles from one tank of fuel...
Yep. That's my take on it too. Was doing a lot of work in Cornwall. Best I got out of it's 180 miles range was 140 miles. That was on a nice day, no heavy weight on the back, no rain, warm weather. On a cold winter's day, with kit, got 95 miles. Future, my arse
Which is what would happen in the real world. Tradesmen tend to really load up their vehicles since payload = money. It would be interesting to see how these "commercial vehicles" would cope in a real world situation.
5th gear did a E van test….once they loaded it with a ton of sand….it massively effected the range…even after a hill where it had to go into sports mode….as it struggled to get up a “slope” they quickly put it back into eco….as it hurt the range so much…after 1 “slope” LOL…..
There’s been a big scandal of Volkswagen over MPG being vastly overstated, so why aren’t the EV cars having the same court cases being brought against the manufactures ?
Hang on a minute. The Gridserve charger said that it was using 100 % net zero electric. How does it do that when the national grid cannot differentiate where the power originated? Are they lying or have they installed an alternative network?
It's a con and I am surprised that trading standards aren't feeling the corporate Gridserve collar. The grid supplies energy from a number of sources including gas, nuclear and, yes, wind/solar. None of them are net zero.
These companies are allowed to use carbon offsets to claim net zero - effectively they pay someone to be able to use their carbon credits - Eon do that as well. Total fraud of course.
Eon next also make this claim, I've said the exact words that you have used to advertising standards agency, now waiting to hear back from them, what do you think they will have to say about it,
Imagine living in a place with temps over 110F (Phoenix, AZ), or under minus 10F (middle of Maine). Both the A/C or the heat chew up tons of electrons just to keep you alive, and the range of an EV is cut in half (or worse). Thanks, but no thanks, Greta.
And we all know what the EVangelists will say "you had your headlights on, your had your window wipers on, you charged it wrong, should have got a Tesla van (if they exist) blah, blah, blah"
What`s the difference between a coal miner and a cobalt miner ?? One is a man , the other is a minor ............. Open the coal mines , make Britain Great Again
Love these videos, joking aside it proves that until charging becomes as quick and convenient as filling up, the EV utopia is simply a fantasy. No doubt an EV is an ideal transport solution for SOME people, but for the majority of drivers, they're just a way of adding stress to already stressful motoring.
The only way I'd get an EV, would be a tiny little thing for pottering around in - school run, shopping, commuting etc. (My commute is literally 5 minutes, my wife 10 minutes.) It would replace my 10 year old Citreon C1 and would need to be of comparable cost. I suspect that would be the factor that makes me keep the C1.
Funny you mention that council i work for are replacing the old dispatch vans for them or the smaller partner sized van and some large etransit cage vans to replace the old 2.2 transits. Some vans will stay diesel due to the mileages covered each day. Nobody wants the electric vans but its happening. I did get to test the toyota proace ev and it was nice to drive handled the moors nicely handled the twisty B roads lovely and range was bang on. However driven a hired renault trafic new 2.0 diesel for work and that was better despite being the base model it had DAB unlike the toyota.
Ive been driving an electric Mokka for near two years. I love it so much im trading it in for a 1500 quid diesel tomorrow. And cant wait. E-cars are a scam!
That's a shocking example of the "usefulness" of EVs - agree totally about not changing habits to find some remote charger. Who wants to spend their time frantically looking for cheap chargers when you're rapidly running out of charge. I agree with a recent interview with James May where he rebranded it 'charge anxiety' - the range wouldn't be a problem if there was a decent infrastructure and they charged within minutes, but it's the worry that the chargers won't be broken/busy/rapid etc.
NAGE mate.I was just getting ready to sign on the dotted line for a milk float.then my wife shook me to get up.what a nightmare it was orrible mate just orrible.brilliant vid as usual.🙏✌️🫶🏴
This reminds me of running a 125-165 mile range ev. It was ok when electric was free or cheap. But moving to a 260-330 range ev was game changing. Little to no piblic cbarging. Current vans are like ev's from 10 years ago.
Little to no public charging? It's still not enough range for a lot of people. My friend purchased a new Audi EV with alleged 260 range, that he's never had. This car has changed his life completely - for the worse! His whole working life is spent in servitude to this car now. His life revolves around it's demands. He never gets 260 miles & when he challenged Audi about their claims, they told him they were obtained under lab conditions!!
@@charliejackman2953 Should always buy korean if you want advertised range. I get 260 in winter and 336 in summer on the motorway and drive 12 hours a day with work. Or you can nuy a flashy badge and live in hope. :)
Hills are a huge factor, I speak from experience. As a user of an e-bike I know that if I'm going to have fun on the hills, I can do up to 21 miles (~1400m of elevation gain). If I'm gonna go for a family ride along the canal path, I can do up to 60 miles, because the elevation gain usually won't exceed 200m and I'll be easily able to ride in eco mode all the time.
The advantage of having an EV van as opposed to an EV car, is that you've got plenty of room in the back for a fairly powerful generator and a petrol tank for when you run out of juice in the middle of nowhere.
I was forced into one by my previous company. It was a complete clown show and the Management didn’t want to hear it. The fleet department are in complete denial.😂
Looking at that charger it was 79p kwh. At 79% it had passed 41kwh. I make that about £31. He still had 20% to go so that might have been £40 to travel 120 miles. A fucking bargain! 😮
Quite a positive review that. Obviously with the background of being reviewed by an EV-hater. Electric van, motorway cruising @ 70 mph, driven 80% - 10%, achieves between 80 and 100 miles. So I'm guessing that'll probably end up being 150 - 200 miles from 100% in more typical use - the type of use a local tradesman would put it through. Not bad really. Of course this review does reveal that it's not a good car replacement for a sales rep. So don't go swapping your BMW 5-series for a Vivaro-e! :)
Years ago i drove my wife from Milton Keynes to Boscastle to see her Dad on a Sunday.Dropped her off and returned,the round trip was about 9 hours ?So nothing has moved on.
I find with the guessometer range predictor it’s not always accurate,I would work out range by what you should average on miles per kWh,for this van realistically it will do 2.25 miles for every kilowatt hour(kWh)so if this is a 75kwh battery vivaro e,it’s has 70kwh usable so you were at 80% at the start so actually miles to get to zero charge left is 0.8x70x2.2=123miles if starting at 100% charge range is 154miles to zero.Vauxhall says a 75kwh vivaro e has a range of 205 miles,100% to zero.If you drive slower say max of 60 mph then the economy will increase to say 2.5 miles per kWh
We have a caravan in ilfracombe we fill up with diesel we go to ilfracombe and back to caerphilly on one tank don't stop there or back. Not a snow ball in hell of us buying a milk float
The advantage of having an EV van as opposed to an EV car is that you have plenty of room in the back for a fairly powerful generator and a petrol tank for when you run out of juice and there's no charger available.
I used to have one of these, for 3 years (50kw company van -BT). I have to say, it was a nice van to drive, but that's were the good stuff ends. In good, warm weather it would say it had 130 miles of range from a full overnight charge, but in fact that would normally really be 80 miles! In the winter the 130miles range would really be 60 miles. Put on the heater, or jump on the motorway, with the heater, lights & wipers on, that would be down to 50 miles. 😢. Don't tell me I should have been in eco mode, all that does is turn off the heating! Personally I wouldn't buy one of these with my own money!
It took 7 hrs, and you now have a flat battery. What's the driveability of these things at low speeds, as in 20mph in Wales. Is it like driving a Rotary, where it's waiting to surge off.
Vauxhall Vivaro minibus use to be one of the most popular 9 seaters for the taxi industry. Then it went electric only and became totally useless. A huge market lost because it went all EV.
Local car dealership has one ,struggles in the summer to do the parts drop off in the local area and in the winter its impossible as losses about 30% of range. I asked him why did he buy it , said he was forced to by their franchise to "make up the EV numbers" - says it all ! 80 miles is about the correct real world range ,maybe 60 when laden - useless and the initial cost and depreciation is biblical .
So basically these vans are designed only to do the rose tinted view of local deliveries. Ideal for those 15 minute cities.
spot on.
Only if they have somewhere to charge, land is expensive in 15 minute cities, well it is now, but greenies that won't do a days work for a days pay will get priced out and things will change.
@@TomSmith-cv8hk knowing the powers to be they will assign those who don't have a job or have a job in a company that they don't want to see trading anymore, a place in the big warehouses with smile on the side of them.
You were doomed from the start... you had the wipers on! 😁
😁😁
Try one of the new Peugeot 3008e. Put the heated seats on, lights on, rear window and go up a slight hill. Watch the miles drop off. Try using the aircon!
If you have a few people in and put the shopping in the boot, it shows too.
Nice to look at with all the tech, but nowhere near quoted range figures.
It weighs as much as a Range Rover, so wallows about and tips in bends. I really don't like it. I've seen better designs that feel less cramped inside.
I regularly drive from Liverpool to Helston, Cornwall, 380 miles. I fill up my tank (£110), and off we go. Plenty of short comfort breaks as my wife has a serious back condition. On a clear run we can do the run in under 8hrs and still have half a tank of fuel even when lights, wipers and air con are on! The car is a Jaguar XJ 3ltr diesel. So no range anxiety just plain sailing in luxury.
Great vid, crack on son.
Talking about tone deaf! I very much doubt the working class EV Carnage tosser appreciates being called “‘son” by a Jaguar driving tosser…
Electric Sack Of Shite
How can ANYONE ever justify getting one of these unless they never go further than half its range and can charge it up every night.
a friend has one for his business where he does just that, currently costing him 3p a mile to run - Delivering fixings to local tradies.
@@markburton8303so it's a local delivery van and nothing else. Exactly like a milkfloat 😂
@@andrewwaller5913 Why companies are building EV heavy vehicles is beyond me.
@@markburton8303 once you factor in the purchase price/lease it's not going to be 3p a mile.....
@@markburton8303subsidies and lobbyists
You've given me range anxiety sitting in my arm chair.
class mate made me laugh this morning
Can u make it out of the armchair to the kitchen ?
Tony "look...its got sat-nav"...presses button...loses 10 miles of range 😂
😂😂
It's the perfect vehicle if your business is delivering polystyrene to local consumers in Milton Keynes!
😅🤣
paper mache - can't be delivering polystyrene, whatever will greta say?
My friend has one to deliver fixings to local tradies - He bought it cheap used, cheaper than an diesel van (which seem to be at a premium in the south west) and runs it for 3 p a mile.
@@markburton8303sounds like it’s your imaginary friend…
@@lnomgaudas1307 What's imaginary? We all know (well you lot might not) you can get cheap electricity for 7.5p a kWh on Octopus Energy, and you know how this bloke is always wanging on about depreciation, well that actually helps if you are buying something that's a few years old - decent business decision in my book . Sorry it couldn't be me, but I don't have to deliver anything.
And that's unladen too.
Very good point.
How about a 1t pallet ?
Who in their right mind would buy this.
Anyone who knows that only an idiot charges to 100% on a rapid.
@@timsbird1971bollocks!
@@UA-camcensoredmyusername clearly I'm in the presence of a genius....
No one, you lease it through your business and save a fortune on tax and running costs!
British Gas run loads of them that’s why your energy bills are too high.
You've got me in deep trouble with management, everytime I go passed a milkfloat I say 'Future my arse' an she's getting fed up with it but I just can't help myself. You do make me smile old son keep the video's coming I luv'em and they are cheaper than Jim Davidson on Ustreame.🤣🤣
I've been retired now for almost ten years but I worked for a national company, we used to bring our vehicles home at night, I had to park away from my address so no chance of charging at home and why should I pay to charge the company vehicle anyway, we used to drive approximately 200 miles a day making 60 + drops on a good day this would take around 12 hours on a bad day 16 hours + . There's no way you could do that in a milkfloat.
I’m on my second Vivaro - diesel (of course) Can honestly say, I’ve had zero trouble in motoring with my job as an electrician.
My stress levels are minimal. No looking at the fuel gauge every five minutes to increase the heart rate and stress (range anxiety I believe)
But if as you say 88 mile range is pathetic, would it be lower if fully laden ?
Basically they’re garbage.
Fully laden you'd need to charge it by the end of your driveway.
@davelowe1977 I bet your not far wrong there !!
What an f in joke😂 "Future my arse"
I'm feeling uninspired this morning so I'll make a non-comment to appease the algorithm. Thanks Mr. Carnage and greetings from the north coast.⛈🌊🙂
I drove 295 miles from a town in North Netherlands to the Channel Tunnel nonstop (4 hours 45 minutes) at an average of 61 MPH and 60MPG, then straight the other side straight to Farnborough Hampshire, still had over 200 miles of range. In a 2.0 litre diesel Skoda Octavia.
Years ago there was a Volkswagen bluemotion diesel and it could get around 1k miles on a full tank on the motorway
@ I had that engine in a Greenline Fabia, and regularly got 90+mpg, even over 100mpg on one trip.
@tucoramirez3333Watched a vid recently where they went from Morocco to Heathrow in a Bluemotion Passat... They got 1480 miles from one tank of fuel...
Yep. That's my take on it too. Was doing a lot of work in Cornwall. Best I got out of it's 180 miles range was 140 miles. That was on a nice day, no heavy weight on the back, no rain, warm weather. On a cold winter's day, with kit, got 95 miles. Future, my arse
I take it that the van was empty. would have been more interesting if it had a maximum load😂
Which is what would happen in the real world. Tradesmen tend to really load up their vehicles since payload = money. It would be interesting to see how these "commercial vehicles" would cope in a real world situation.
Load the back up full with EV evangelists and then see the real range.. 😂
Outstanding video Tony,thank you
Would be interesting to see the same journey done with the van fully laden!
Currently having the engine replaced on my 03 viv I’d replace it a hundred times before I got rid for a EV 😂👍✌️
5th gear did a E van test….once they loaded it with a ton of sand….it massively effected the range…even after a hill where it had to go into sports mode….as it struggled to get up a “slope” they quickly put it back into eco….as it hurt the range so much…after 1 “slope” LOL…..
There’s been a big scandal of Volkswagen over MPG being vastly overstated, so why aren’t the EV cars having the same court cases being brought against the manufactures ?
It did happen in the US
They will soon when the No Win No Fee buy your own insurance to cover our loss Companies notice.
Hang on a minute. The Gridserve charger said that it was using 100 % net zero electric. How does it do that when the national grid cannot differentiate where the power originated? Are they lying or have they installed an alternative network?
It's a con and I am surprised that trading standards aren't feeling the corporate Gridserve collar. The grid supplies energy from a number of sources including gas, nuclear and, yes, wind/solar. None of them are net zero.
They store net zero electricity in one container and the other in a separate container. Duuuh
These companies are allowed to use carbon offsets to claim net zero - effectively they pay someone to be able to use their carbon credits - Eon do that as well. Total fraud of course.
Eon next also make this claim, I've said the exact words that you have used to advertising standards agency, now waiting to hear back from them, what do you think they will have to say about it,
@@StephenFirth-ui7oz That'll be interesting! Yes, ASA is probably a better bet than trading standards. Another one playing that game is Octopus.
Imagine living in a place with temps over 110F (Phoenix, AZ), or under minus 10F (middle of Maine). Both the A/C or the heat chew up tons of electrons just to keep you alive, and the range of an EV is cut in half (or worse). Thanks, but no thanks, Greta.
And we all know what the EVangelists will say "you had your headlights on, your had your window wipers on, you charged it wrong, should have got a Tesla van (if they exist) blah, blah, blah"
I love sat behind them regen braking using my brakes and extra engine braking
“I’m going to be on fumes- well not fumes, unless it’s going to be on fire.” 🤣🤣 LMAO
Who in their right mind would drive away from the motorway to find a possible cheaper charger lol?
EV owners are clearly NOT in their right mind.
What`s the difference between a coal miner and a cobalt miner ??
One is a man , the other is a minor .............
Open the coal mines , make Britain Great Again
Great video mate laughing my head off
Love these videos, joking aside it proves that until charging becomes as quick and convenient as filling up, the EV utopia is simply a fantasy. No doubt an EV is an ideal transport solution for SOME people, but for the majority of drivers, they're just a way of adding stress to already stressful motoring.
I don’t think I can use the analogy of tortoise and hare ,as the hare wins this one 😂🤣😂
The only way I'd get an EV, would be a tiny little thing for pottering around in - school run, shopping, commuting etc. (My commute is literally 5 minutes, my wife 10 minutes.) It would replace my 10 year old Citreon C1 and would need to be of comparable cost. I suspect that would be the factor that makes me keep the C1.
Was your van carrying its legal cargo weight on your test drive or empty 😊
Know who this van is perfect for! Council workers! Might even be able to plug their kettle into the damned thing!
Funny you mention that council i work for are replacing the old dispatch vans for them or the smaller partner sized van and some large etransit cage vans to replace the old 2.2 transits. Some vans will stay diesel due to the mileages covered each day. Nobody wants the electric vans but its happening. I did get to test the toyota proace ev and it was nice to drive handled the moors nicely handled the twisty B roads lovely and range was bang on. However driven a hired renault trafic new 2.0 diesel for work and that was better despite being the base model it had DAB unlike the toyota.
Watching this after already seen your update after the news about the closure of the factory
If the van was full of stuff then then there will be even less range. My mate works for Openreach and he now spends nearly half his day charging.
My daughter worked for a van hire company.
The electric vans just didn't rent out as the range is rubbish.
Ive been driving an electric Mokka for near two years.
I love it so much im trading it in for a 1500 quid diesel tomorrow. And cant wait.
E-cars are a scam!
And had you got a Ton of load in the back?
That's a shocking example of the "usefulness" of EVs - agree totally about not changing habits to find some remote charger. Who wants to spend their time frantically looking for cheap chargers when you're rapidly running out of charge. I agree with a recent interview with James May where he rebranded it 'charge anxiety' - the range wouldn't be a problem if there was a decent infrastructure and they charged within minutes, but it's the worry that the chargers won't be broken/busy/rapid etc.
and when you get there.. there is ten people in front of you doing the same thing
NAGE mate.I was just getting ready to sign on the dotted line for a milk float.then my wife shook me to get up.what a nightmare it was orrible mate just orrible.brilliant vid as usual.🙏✌️🫶🏴
The good news: I made it to Exeter. The bad news: I made it to Exeter. 😬
Proper EV crap and lies lol. Builders wont be buying this shit!! Keep up the great work Tony.
This reminds me of running a 125-165 mile range ev. It was ok when electric was free or cheap. But moving to a 260-330 range ev was game changing. Little to no piblic cbarging. Current vans are like ev's from 10 years ago.
@@puppyone2020 😂😂😂🤡 I charged my car at a Porsche dealer today. About 80% of the cars were flavours of Taycan.
Little to no public charging? It's still not enough range for a lot of people.
My friend purchased a new Audi EV with alleged 260 range, that he's never had. This car has changed his life completely - for the worse! His whole working life is spent in servitude to this car now. His life revolves around it's demands.
He never gets 260 miles & when he challenged Audi about their claims, they told him they were obtained under lab conditions!!
@@charliejackman2953 Should always buy korean if you want advertised range. I get 260 in winter and 336 in summer on the motorway and drive 12 hours a day with work. Or you can nuy a flashy badge and live in hope. :)
tip , to save battery power use hand signals instead of the indicators.
Hills are a huge factor, I speak from experience. As a user of an e-bike I know that if I'm going to have fun on the hills, I can do up to 21 miles (~1400m of elevation gain). If I'm gonna go for a family ride along the canal path, I can do up to 60 miles, because the elevation gain usually won't exceed 200m and I'll be easily able to ride in eco mode all the time.
EV's, an illogical solution to an imaginary problem.
Like solar panels and a battery. Pay £12,000 to save £15/month. Put your £12,000 in to stocks and shares to pay your bill each month.
Had one as a work van.
Strangest thing with it, every time I turned it on, it defaulted to having the A/C on.
What is the supposed range if the van is fully loaded?
Anyone who buys an electric car needs their head read..!!
The advantage of having an EV van as opposed to an EV car, is that you've got plenty of room in the back for a fairly powerful generator and a petrol tank for when you run out of juice in the middle of nowhere.
We don’t drive round with empty vans what would it be like with a load on?
Great vehicle for collecting Costa Rewards.😂
Hang on, are you carrying a large load of air in the back or half a ton of rubble?
We used to be concerned how many MPGs we got - we didn’t care how far it went on a full tank - how things change 🤷♂️
Who in their right mind would even consider one of these as a work vehicle??
How much weight were you carrying, seeing as that's basically what a van is for
I love your term "All the usual Milkfloaters"😅😅
Wait until the cold weather hits 😂.
I was forced into one by my previous company. It was a complete clown show and the Management didn’t want to hear it. The fleet department are in complete denial.😂
How much did the journey cost?
You didn't plan your journey, you went on a wet dull day!!!
How much time is wasted charging?
What happens when range anxiety turns into range rage?
Did you have a heavy load in the back?
Hi Tony, what was the cost of electricity for that trip?
Looking at that charger it was 79p kwh. At 79% it had passed 41kwh. I make that about £31. He still had 20% to go so that might have been £40 to travel 120 miles. A fucking bargain! 😮
@@ianharley1726cost less in my 1.1 litre 3 cylinder sensible ICE car😂
Is it loaded?😢
Did you have a load on the van or was it empty, the electric van is no b" use at all
Do you take a book (or even a handheld games console) with you as you know it's going to take time to charge?
You could always fit some solar panels on top & a wind mill so you are charging as you drive, I think that’s called perpetual motion! LOL😂
So what did the trip cost?
Did you have the heater on as it doesn’t look as frosty as last time 😂
Quite a positive review that. Obviously with the background of being reviewed by an EV-hater. Electric van, motorway cruising @ 70 mph, driven 80% - 10%, achieves between 80 and 100 miles. So I'm guessing that'll probably end up being 150 - 200 miles from 100% in more typical use - the type of use a local tradesman would put it through. Not bad really.
Of course this review does reveal that it's not a good car replacement for a sales rep. So don't go swapping your BMW 5-series for a Vivaro-e! :)
Years ago i drove my wife from Milton Keynes to Boscastle to see her Dad on a Sunday.Dropped her off and returned,the round trip was about 9 hours ?So nothing has moved on.
Oooh! It’s just like Countdown too, isn’t it?
how much milk can you get in the back of it?
I find with the guessometer range predictor it’s not always accurate,I would work out range by what you should average on miles per kWh,for this van realistically it will do 2.25 miles for every kilowatt hour(kWh)so if this is a 75kwh battery vivaro e,it’s has 70kwh usable so you were at 80% at the start so actually miles to get to zero charge left is 0.8x70x2.2=123miles if starting at 100% charge range is 154miles to zero.Vauxhall says a 75kwh vivaro e has a range of 205 miles,100% to zero.If you drive slower say max of 60 mph then the economy will increase to say 2.5 miles per kWh
Fact is you had range anxiety the moment you knew you would be driving it..
So driving holding a video camera is sensible?
We have a caravan in ilfracombe we fill up with diesel we go to ilfracombe and back to caerphilly on one tank don't stop there or back. Not a snow ball in hell of us buying a milk float
i and about 75% of drivers will never be lied into buying one of these things.
You'd have to tow a diesel generator in a trailer and have that guy run all the time, with a charge wire into the van:)
I love that you start the video parked opposite a burger van, are they any good?
The advantage of having an EV van as opposed to an EV car is that you have plenty of room in the back for a fairly powerful generator and a petrol tank for when you run out of juice and there's no charger available.
Which size battery are you driving?
AAA😂
Absolutely never ever ever WEF..errrrr total shite... Not even for Free.., charging range incoming 😮
I used to have one of these, for 3 years (50kw company van -BT). I have to say, it was a nice van to drive, but that's were the good stuff ends. In good, warm weather it would say it had 130 miles of range from a full overnight charge, but in fact that would normally really be 80 miles! In the winter the 130miles range would really be 60 miles. Put on the heater, or jump on the motorway, with the heater, lights & wipers on, that would be down to 50 miles. 😢. Don't tell me I should have been in eco mode, all that does is turn off the heating! Personally I wouldn't buy one of these with my own money!
What was ghe costs of the charge
How about when loaded? Also,why distance in miles? Sounds cheaper than kilometers? 120 miles looks better than 40 km!
It took 7 hrs, and you now have a flat battery. What's the driveability of these things at low speeds, as in 20mph in Wales. Is it like driving a Rotary, where it's waiting to surge off.
Vauxhall Vivaro minibus use to be one of the most popular 9 seaters for the taxi industry. Then it went electric only and became totally useless. A huge market lost because it went all EV.
Local car dealership has one ,struggles in the summer to do the parts drop off in the local area and in the winter its impossible as losses about 30% of range. I asked him why did he buy it , said he was forced to by their franchise to "make up the EV numbers" - says it all !
80 miles is about the correct real world range ,maybe 60 when laden - useless and the initial cost and depreciation is biblical .
EVs are crap.
What would you get if the van was Loaded???
I’m interested to see what the van doing what it’s designed to do will do to the range, ie. Stick some tools in the back.
Wipers and lights don’t work off the main traction battery,they work off the 12v car battery
If people still had there milk delivered instead of buying from Tesco's ,these things would be ideal
Blimey and thats without a load in the back which is what vans are for, can you imagine the range if you'd got sand cement bricks etc on board!