MG4 6 Months Later | Honest Owner's Review | Which MG4 To Buy...
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- 6 months ago I purchased my MG4 SE Standard Range and in today's video I'll be giving an honest review of ownership with the pros, the cons and 6 months later, which MG4 I'd buy if I did it all over again.
The MG4 SE SR is the most affordable EV you can buy in the UK with a decent useable range. If you're in the market or ready to leap into EV ownership, at £26,999 (£25,999 when I purchased it), Carplay/Android Auto, V2L and a great suite of safety feature, the MG4 really is a compelling option.
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Thanks as always,
Stu
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I drive a M3 Performance from 2020. But I have to admit this MG4 is much more comfortable. Even I admitted that it drove better then my Tesla. Good car.
It’s a great point. Admittedly, later post 2021 M3s are much more comfortable. Our 2020 is M3 LR is being replaced later this month with a MY LR and I’m not going to miss it, UK roads are just unforgiving for stiff suspension in heavy cars.
My brother bought his in January and has never stopped praising it since he took delivery. He says it is without doubt, the best car he's ever owned and knocks other EVs costing £15-20k more for six.
When you shot this excellent video, the MG 4 was sold in China for nearly a year. There is no excuse for deceiving charging powers (at MG and other brands) and dashboard quality issues, except the price tag
Enjoying your reports Stuart. Very informative and succinct.
Many thanks Ron, much appreciated 👍
I really wish they offered the Trophy trim level with every battery option. Also, I wonder how many of the Trophy upgrades could be retrofitted and if anyone is actually doing this? I know lots of people are importing accessories from China, but I'm talking actual things like the 360 degree cameras or the wireless charger.
For me, I am not interested in long range, extended range or dual motors. Like you, the standard range would suffice (heck I'd probably make do with an even smaller battery option as long as it retains fast charging) but that doesn't mean people want to miss out on the extra toys.
I live this review, it is nicely paced for disabled people and it's interesting and professional. Thank you very much!
It's odd because before EVs the knock on LiFePO4 was certainly not power - it was just weight. In fact they normally outperformed most NMC cells with brands like A123 consistently achieving 10C charge and discharge curves with little affect on longevity or capacity. They had a much lower internal resistance than most NMC cells - some high power cell excepted.
10C wow! Weight is definitely an issue. I know the MG4 SE SE and the LR weight more or less the same. I think software and how it handles the LFP has come on a long way.
Real world reports so valuable
Very interesting video; thanks!
One thing I haven't really heard much about in most reviews is software support.
How many software updates - if any - did you receive since owning this car?
... And if you did receive any, what issues did they address?
Thanks.
Hi thanks for tuning in. As mentioned in the video I’ve only ever had one update which was for a safety advisory.
@@stuart_thomas thanks, must have missed that comment.
I have found that some driving settings do not persist from one drive to another, like lane keep assist or eco drive mode. I have to set these each time I drive the car, even in custom mode, regen I have mapped to steering controls so I can adjust that while I drive. Shame otherwise excellent car.
Unfortunately you can’t map regen to the steering controls in the SE. However, even remembering how you last drove the car would be a good half-way house.
I came from a Renault Zoe, and although the MG4 is way superior, it had a dedicated ECO button. So handy to flick between driving profiles depending on driving conditions, and the amount of energy I had left. It would be great if the software could support changing performance profile thru one of the star buttons.
I seem to recall reading somewhere that car manufacturers are not allowed to have Eco mode as a default setting in EVs, since energy consumption / driving range (WLTP) is not measured in Eco mode. The default driving mode has to be the mode in which the energy consumption / driving range was measured.
Fantastic video 😊
Thanks for a great video! Very informative! I am looking to buy an EV soon. I drive 130km every day and half is highway driving at 110km/h. Can anyone tell me how highway driving affects the range of their EV?
Thank you for the great feedback. I’d say 10-15% for every 10mph less or 10-15% less for every 10mph faster
Hey Stew,
I’m guessing you’ve heard by now about the bug which caused the preheating to fail if the car is connected to the home charger & not charging…
Hi Graham, Indeed. Unfortunately MG tell me there’s no update for SE standard range at this time. Let’s hope that changes soon (there maybe an update but it’s not being offered) as it’s very frustrating
hi i have a mg4, and charge it on 2 different chargers at home, on the 7kw charger the ac works from my phone, on a lower power charger 3kw the ac wont switch on remotely. i get over it by putting my wife's leaf on the slower charger 🙂
That’s strange with the remote starting, it should automatically start but I could be wrong
Regarding NCAP crash test result - look at body damage map - the rear seat passenger has a severe(red color) cervical spine injury, you can compare the result with VW ID3, there is green color (the best). To be honest the VW ID3 Pure costs the same money in Germany and it is more safe, spacious, reliable car and mainly you don't have to support the dictatorial regime in China at any cost :-)
1 - buyers generally dont give a toss about NCAP.
2 - your house is full of Chinese made goods, including the device you typed your comment on.
@@nordic5490But that doesn't change the fact that the MG4 is dangerous for rear passengers :-)
Too many problems including build quality for a new car in my opinion. Also read someone bought a new one which wouldn't charge at all and because he took it to the dealer instead of the dealer coming to pick it up they won't give him a courtesy car. That's their rules apparently. In other words forget customer care.
There is no auto hold feature?
Auto hold is applied when you push the brake pedal. The car will hold when you release
What about the reliability ?That is what worries me plus the resale value which is not very good for EVs !The screens should not have been divided but in one screen ! My diesel car is the same whether if it’s, war or cold outside and that is why i’ll never want to buy one !
No issues with reliability but I can only be lead by my situation. In terms of resale value the whole car market is going though a dip which is linked to inflation and availability so that’s not really a concern as such unless you’re selling. It was a seller’s market 6 months ago and now it’s flipped. EVs aren’t going to be suitable for a lot of people right now. It has to fit your use case and check boxes.
As a Tesla owner (Y LR), whilst there car is outstanding, the lack of a binacle display behind the wheel is still a pain 6 months in. MG and others are spot on putting lesser uses Settings etc on a larger side screen and the critical driver info right in your field of view. And a HUD would be even better! But prob add too much to the price of a budget EV.
How much is the standard range in the UK?
It differs depending where you source. MG list is different to say CarWow
£27k
Really poor quality interior and interface compared to the Kia Niro and overall less polish and only slightly cheaper. Not really convinced about Chinese car brands, they will likely face massive challenges as the trade war with China inevitably heat up.
If I were GenZ faced with huge mortgage payments, I'd be strongly tempted by the MG4, and this is an honest review. However it's wrong to say all cars come with defects. My GV60 has none after seven months. The two items on back order would concern me, especially the dashboard, which in fifty years of motoring I have never encountered. But my major reservation is the country of source: Uighurs incarcerated in Chinese concentration camps, awaiting the call to become live organ donors will never get an opportunity to buy an MG4 and that makes me recoil from any major Chinese purchase.
You are frightened by the lies of the media. There are no concentration camps in Xinjiang, and there are no live organ donors. Seeing is believing. Welcome to Xinjiang to travel and see the lives of Xinjiang people with your own eyes. You will be shocked. Lies are lies after all. Although they can say ten thousand A million times
Adrian Zenz is a liar. There is no "concentration camps" and he is part of a conspiracy against China.
Do you have a heater pomp?
Not on this model
So only at the top model, Trophy 🏆.
Same....
It should be after 6 mths c'mon.
Had my Trophy for about 3 months now, love driving this baby, what a beautiful drive. I'd say the software can be improved but otherwise, very pleased with my purchase.
Also, I'd love to have the 360 camera to come on automatically when I get close to the car or an object in front....
*drop 30+k in a new car*
6 months later : "she's still working !!"
Fun to follow MG in the future, my Tesla’s are now 9 years old with 300.000-350.000km on each no big issues only door handles so far.
I've had the MG4 Comfort (the version that until the 'Long Range' had the longest range of 450 kilometres) as a company car for six weeks now (driven > 4200 kilometres already), and I'm loving it.
The car's a newer version (this one has a rear window wiper) than the one you have, and I always stick to the 'Eco' setting. I really like the battery efficiency, which as long as you drive tops 100 km/h (about 60 m/h) is pretty accurate. Go past that and you'll burn energy rapidly, but here (Netherlands) that isn't a problem as during the day there's a speed limit of 100 km/h anyway. And sticking to 100 km/h during the night actually feels more comfortable as well. Go lower speeds and you'll find out that the regenerative power is amazing. One time I had to drive about 11 kilometres through countryside, through a village with maximum limits of 50 km/h and 30 km/h. Sticking to decently conserving energy, the range of the car only dropped by 5.5 kilometres. One time in my city when it was busy and I had to slow down or brake, I actually gained 1% energy and more range! That actually begs the question whether it's possible to gain energy by driving :)
For its size the car is very spacey indeed and is really useful for the work that I do, which regularly requires driving all sorts of equipment with me.
I haven't had too much issues yet with the fast-charging capabilities: due to the range, I rarely need it. And when I do, all I need to do is get some coffee at the gas station to take a break, and by the time the coffee's finished there's plenty of range left to get back home. But I'll have to see how this will work during winter.
Disadvantages:
I've driven test runs with the Luxury (the first version with spoilers), so I know which features I'm missing. It's also odd that some of the things that they've saved money on is for example being unable to fold the rear mirrors. That could one day be a difficult problem.
The car also looks very dirty quite quickly: it's easy to see your fingerprints on the screen and on the outside on especially the back you can fairly quickly see it getting dirty.
Not being able to save your customised settings is just dumb, really dumb. Why offer so many features if you do not want your customer to keep them? I really had to teach myself to when the car starts to do the set up that I want to have. I've already given up on some adjustments, as it is just a hassle to keep doing it.
I also really do not like it that you cannot turn off the automatic breaking systems when driving on cruise control. The system is absolutely not subtle, and I'm constantly worried that something that is supposed to make you safer ends up causing accidents to those driving behind me - because sometimes that breaking can be really ruthless and absolutely uncomfortable to the one behind me. Because most of the population hasn't driven an EV yet and so isn't aware that this can be a thing in EV's. It made my mitigate this problem, by switching on and off the cruise control or using the e-paddle when necessary to overtake the cruise control and prevent the quick breaking.
Charging on regular charges is also frequently quite a bit lower than the maximum capacity: quite often it doesn't get past the 50% capability, at best it might reach something like 65%. This causes the charging to take more time than necessary.
And I've now got my first bug: when closing the car, after 1-2 seconds the trunk opens. I can't find a way of solving this and therefore will have to go to the dealer to get it fixed.
My opinion so far: I really like the car, I'm happy with it. It does have some nuisances (besides the automatic breaking, that really is a hassle), but they're not a major problem. I'll see how the car will function over time, especially during winter. But so far I think it won't give any major problems.
Wish we could get it in USA. Cheers to Norway, very pretty, and some fantastic musical artists. I am a fan of NHL player Daniel Sprong, born there.
I really appreciated your comments, super useful and detailed with real user information.
I’m really close to buy a MG4 Luxury (updated version) as my first very own car. It just arrived to Colombia at the end of December 2023 for around 40000 USD (the previous version didn’t land here). For reference, the standard BYD Dolphin is about 38750 USD, it comes without sunroof, 13s 0-100km/h. A Nissan Leaf would be 41250 USD (idk the trim). Renault Megan’s E-tech 50000 USD (idk the trim). BYD Atto 3 48750 (top trim version).
Do you have any updates so far? I would highly appreciate your comments.
I’m looking to upgrade my Ioniq 28kw which can do 100motorway miles in the winter and 120 in the summer. I do get 6miles perkWh in the summer with mixed driving and the MG looks like a good replacement although I can charge 10-80% in 17mins in my Ioniq as the charge curve is so flat. I’m also torn between a mid £20k Tesla M3 and MG4, Great review and keep them coming.
The 38kwh Ioniq will do 200 miles mixed driving in summer 180 miles motorway @ 70 if you can live with 45kw charging 10-80% 40 minutes summer 55 minutes in winter and a range of 135 miles in snow -1°c on motorway @ 63mph in winter with heating at 18°c
Really enjoyed this video, I love your styling of the review, very detailed visuals and professional analysis of your experiences. I'm looking to secure one of these cars in the next month or two as it remains outstanding value and really does tick the boxes when weighing up my leasing options. You've given me some excellent pointers to make the most of the experience as and when I receive the car. Thanks so much Stuart - subbed!
Thanks Steve, I appreciate the great feedback. I hope you enjoy your MG4 as much as I do👍
Bought long range long range MG4 23 plate, ex garage demo and 6 months old. It still has 6 yrs warranty. Love it. I have a ‘dumb’ home charger from a previous EV, and the in-car scheduled (cheap rate) charging was difficult (kept reverting to a different schedule), but trial and error seems to have worked… used CCS at Instavolt recently, which worked at 75kw in sleet. Changed to MG 4 for range, CCS charging facility and price. The drive is very comfortable. The car isn’t brutish looking and I use ECO even on motorways. A really good feature is that if I really accelerate hard (eg, to avoid an issue) it changes to NORMAL to get me out of a bind. The really irritating defult feature is LANE ASSIST - I live near narrow country lanes, and don’t like the ‘wheel grab’ effect, so I have to sit and programme.
Nice clear presentation style with no frills and very informative content - subscribed!
Love these videos, keep them coming 👍
I can see why MG don’t want you to permanently disable the safety systems, but they should definitely let us save our preferred settings
Frustrating that the LFP battery cannot get near to that max charge rate, I have the NMC battery and it actually beats the advertised 135kW max - I saw 139.2kW
Glad you are still enjoying your car, I love mine too
Thanks billy. The LR models are little charging beasts. The saving grace is a good charging curve on the SR, having said that, if you’re stopping long enough to charge for than 50% plus, you’re probably going to grab a coffee anyway.
made in china
@@fffwe3876 like BMWs, Teslas, Minis, Volvos, Polestars… Not really sure what your point is
yeah save preferences would be 100% more ideal. i believe its part of the safety standards thing tho. eg. it gives higher rating for defaulting safety systems to on. nvm if they're no good...
I would wait for facelifted and upgraded version of this car
Not coming soon.. 2025 models looks the same
Thanks for the video. Really useful as we are looking at going EV in the next couple of years and the MG4 is on the list - as is the MG5 estate.😃
Surprised there's no mention of the reduction gearbox breather oil leak Stuart.
Yup me too. Mine had a new breather fitted and now, 2 months later, is leaking again.
My car has (fingers crossed) not suffered with this issue.
Do you have the new software? What about intrusive LKA? Thanks
I’ve got a 2020 MG ZS Ev ,,, it’s been a great car so far ,, but now I’m thinking should I upgrade to the MG4 ?
The MG4 fits 3 children car seats no problem in the back. Quite spacious especially because it is a rather small vehicle from the outside.
These MG cars are looking great an great value for money,mg4 looks nice but not ready for electric car yet, i do like the new facelifted 2023/2024 mg hs trophy ,looks lovely in grey or black with the red leather interior, definitely one i might get in a few years, at present im enjoying my diesel jeep renegade ive had for 4 months, great video greetings from Scotland 😁👍🏴
MG has updated the specs in Germany, the LFP battery is quoted now at 88kW. The NMC battery is now quoted at 140kw. 140kW has been reported on the NMC battery before the refresh on the website so I assume that the LFP won't achieve more than 88kW, which is in line with your findings.
I’m pleased to hear MG are revising their marketing in Germany in line with my testing. 140kW is fantastic speeds for the NMC models, I think a minimum of 125kW should be the target for all EVs now
I'm picking up my standard range in germany this week. Somehow it's a little disappointing that the figures have been changed from what was advertised. Still looking forward to our first ev though.
@@MythricCorlem Don't be, the peak numbers are absolutely meaningless. It doesn't really matter if the car charges with 117kW or 88kW if the 10-80% time is the same. Either you'll receive atrocious speeds from around 55% to 80% (117kW scenario) or have a flatter charging curve with good speeds throughout (88kW scenario) or even beyond the 80% mark.
My MG4 is coming in a few months as well, but I'm coming from a Zoe so after two and a half years, 63.000km of 46kW until 50% even the 88kW look juicy to me by comparison lol.
Have fun with your MG! I'm also very excited for mine!
@@stuart_thomas As I've said to the other commenter, peak speeds aren't really meaningful. I believe a charging time of less than 25 minutes 10-80% should be the norm in this day and age. Even if the car would charge with 250kW it would do so for a few moments after which the speed will plummet like the 2008 stock market. I'd rather have something like 100kW with a flatter curve, because I'll get good speeds even outside of Ionity or other HPC's. Efficiency is also very important, a factor which ultimately led me to the MG4 was that it is almost identical to my Zoe efficiency-wise.
Hi Stuart, Thank you for your honest and in-depth review. This is one of 3 cars we are looking at for our first family EV car, the other two are the MG ZS and the Kia Niro (first edition) so this review was very helpful to me. Thank you for taking the time to explain the pros and cons of this MG4.
Are you ualso looking at the mg5? Just testdrived the 5 and ZS, both are very similair in price, the zs trunk looks deeper and larger but is actually a little smaller. Heard the zs can feel a little swirly in corners, though I haven't experienced that in my testdrive.
The MG4 also fits 3 children car seats in the rear. Easier than our ford Kuga non-ev.
I would have taken money off for the bubbles on the dashboard.
Had a trophy for a couple months. For the money well competitors are in trouble with just a bit more work this would be truly great platform. Even now it’s blowing them away on what you get for your money. Seats could improve. Put back wiper back. Just a few tweaks for a like £3k extra you would have something special here. The aerodynamics are stunning for a car like this. Can tell the U.K. designed it it’s not very Chinese at all! It’s how we should be doing cars ourselves. My God we are capable…look.
Thanks Stuart, really enjoy following your MG4 experience. How many miles have you covered in the car so far? You did say at the start you would talk about the dealership experience....are they responding to the fixes you are waiting for?...do they keep you in the picture? A new MG dealership just opened 60 km north of me in Poitiers so my Hyundai Ioniq owning friend and I will be making a visit soon to see how they are doing and maybe have a go in one. I haven't seen one on the road here in France yet but the French stats say they have shifted a couple of thousand in the past 2 months. We just got back from a 1,750 km road trip to see family in Switzerland...and I can report that rapid charging en route here is a lot better than it was 4 years ago when we got the e-Niro, were you ever to head this way on vacation you shouldn't have any problems charging the MG.
Thanks for the update on charging I’m heading to Geneva soon but flying on this occasion with a petrol hire car.
In total 4700 miles and still going strong.
Dealership experience is very much what I expect and is very much in line with most in the UK I’ve dealt with, very limited contact and in most cases you need to chase for updates. The only saving grace is all my warranty issues are now carried out by my local MG instead of the one I purchased it from.
You should definitely give one a drive.👍
@Stuart Thomas thank you, you're a beta tester and I'm very happy tha these cars seems very strong ! In ten years, I'll be sure about their reliability !
I think they’ll fair well if mine is anything to go by. There’s many in the wild now with much higher mileage
I too really want to see what an average mileage one will look like in 10 years time, especially the fabric seats ! Fingers crossed no rust 🤞
These MGs seem like great value EVs with nice handling, a good performance compromise, safety and attractive looks-probably the best available EV choice currently for average commuters. BTW, I noticed 3 bubbles at 9:40 . Does MG state the root cause? Most importantly it looks like you’re getting excellent after-sales customer support from MG which is a really welcome critical purchasing factor.
Replacement installed now - local MG took great care of the situation
"Hey guys" , the scourge of every UA-cam video and Harvester restaurant.
Nice car but rubbish range compared to the norm now, unless versus the Honda e. But then even my electric bicycle goes further than Honda.
Most EVs with a 200+ mile range have north of 60kWh battery. This has a 50 and I don’t know any EVs which will compete especially with an LFP chemistry. With exception of Tesla.
“All cars come with defects”. I’ve had several new cars, a Ford Focus, two Honda Civics and currently a Volvo XC 40……ZERO DEFECTS on delivery and no defects or warranty claims. The Volvo is still under warranty.
Thank you for your informative videos. Have just put my deposit down and picking up the same vehicle next week. Its called Excite 51 in Australia. Shouldn't have the low temp issues as I live in tropical Queensland.
That is awesome!
Hello I'm loving the videos . Could you make a video , showing the prices to charge at home and on the road ?
Compares to a diesel car , I got a diesel car and would love to change to an MG4 , but I think the range for price compare to diesel to charging on the road may be the same price and not be convenient to pay more just to be eletric.
Thank you .
Thanks for your comment and support. It’s very difficult to compare prices as there’s so many different tariffs and prices for both home and public charging. Capped charging at home is 30p per/kWh so 30p x kWh. My home tariff is 7.5p per/kWh. Public charging is difficult. I’ve seen it as little as 30p with a subscription up to £1 p/kWh with a card reader. Best thing I can suggest is to use apps like Zapmap to check charger rates in advance before you use them. Home charging will always be much better for the £. It also depending on your use case. How many miles do you drive a week etc
It's just six months I would hope it's not showing signs of wear doesn't say much
It’s still in ‘new’ condition, even has the new smells
I like that you have your climate control buttons as a “widget” on the home screen the trophy version doesnt. Ill have a look if I can change that
Weird that the MG doesn’t report the correct side of the road to CarPlay. You can tell it’s wrong as the icons are on the left, whereas on UK cars it should be on the right. Weird oversight by MG.
A positive review and I loved test driving the Trophy version.
What car rates it as the 2nd worst reliable car & I am seeing a lot of negative user reviews.
MG also seem to not stand over the 7 year review according to many people who have bought this model.
In the winter here it goes bellow -5°C on regularly basis but also sometimes it goes to -15° to -20°C. i guess I will need to go inside the car to start the preheating of the battery and of the interior. They didn't fix it yet? Because from what I see the application is not working right. That worked just fine with my old sold Dacia Spring. Thanks
I've got the same car and model and have issues with the 'lane assist' pulling me off the road while driving straight and a 'loud turbine sound' coming from the car's hood. The car also has difficulty censoring its surroundings e.g. lane lines, cars, and road signs. MG did not recognize these as defects but fixed two other defects I had i.e. rust on MG front logo/sign and battery issue. I'm not satisfied with the purchase because of these issues and because IMO the standard model is very dry, with few features, a crappy app, and bad software design
Stuart,
Thankyou for your posts . An intelligent appraisal of a groundbreaking vehicle. Like you we have owned ours now for six months.
Agree totally with other contributors that the self drive software which cannot be set and saved (Please MG sort this out) is a major
Bind. But hey once you have got used to resetting every time it becomes second nature. I wish we could have afforded the LR version
But we skinted ourselves ( pensioners) to buy the car😅. Yes got the bent under tray also . After another nag to the dealers … yep on back order and MG
Are sorting it . I think if I understood correctly they have now modified this component (just needed another bolt under the centre where unsupported,
basically a bit skimped ? )
It is so nice to drive and getting back in our ICE car is showing how primitive it all is. I certainly have not missed stuffing £100 diesel into the tank
every Few weeks. Trying to stop the missus worrying about range has been tricky . but the ad hoc development of charge points where the greedy blighters are ripping off for
80p per kWh is taking the p- I am sure you will agree. Not helpful . She was apprehensive initially but I am picking up better vibes from her now,
She obviously likes the driving experience.🤞
Just one question .Are there cheaper alternatives to the little widget you demonstrated
To use the infotainment system to play recorded music?
Thanks again keep up the good work .
Hi John thanks for taking time to write this fantastic comment. I have to say the cost of public charging is a bit of an issue on some of the networks but there are some which are more realistic, even Tesla on some are only charging a little over 50p p/kW.
There are alternatives for wireless multimedia. The company I reviewed the device for are sending me an alternative more affordable version so keep an eye out for that one. I have seen a few people in the comments for that video mention some more affordable units worth considering.
Many thanks again 👍
Trying to decide on this over a few others, ie VW ID3, Citroen eC4. I’m curious though, what’s the sound system quality like?
we have a model Y which is great but maybe this can be a aecond car..its only $30k in australia atm
HI Stuart, do you have one pedal driving on the SE? I heard that it’s only available on the Trophy model? Thanks
Does the back wheels look like they are mounted on a rear axle that is too narrow?
i went away last week i have a trophy i got 140kw peak charge ,not everytime
That’s fantastic it’s a charging beast! It’s shame it can’t carry it dealer into the charge
You might get a year old M3 for Trophy price but it won’t have your valued V2L!
Second hand M3s? That's a brave move.
Can you say if there is a lot of road noise or is it generally quite acceptable, thanks for your comments. Roger
Did you try a aftermarket review camera as well? if you have any luck please let the viewers know.
I haven’t but it’s on the cards
Australia is getting the AWD version soon . Looking forward to it. Might even sell my i30n for it
That MG4 AWD will arguably be the first proper "hot hatch" EV! Although it might even be a bit too fast to be just called a hatchback, given how fast EV can accelerate these days.
Thanks for video. Helped me decide not to buy...cheers
hey, can we get 11-12 months update? thanks
12 month coming soon - thanks for tuning in
All very well, but, how many years would you expect to hve in service 10 yrs? And then a second hand one how many yrs would one get out of one?
Sorry, not sure I understand your question. Do you mean range?
Everything about the car is good, but this would bring it to the next level:
1: HUD
2: Mobile app redone. Basically it actually works
3: MG Pilot needs to be as good as HDA 2 (Kia/Hyundai) or Travel Assist (VE) semi autonomous systems.
Even for an extra 5k I would pay it if it had this
It’s a good shout for upgrades. Unfortunately, I don’t see them coming soon as MG just isn’t in that place right now, they’ve very much in that infancy and trying to maintain a ‘value’ brand and get things right. Once they have established a solid software experience then I’m sure they will look to do more.
Great suggestions
In Bjørn Nylands mg4 videos he is charging with 130-140 kwh and thats in Norway.
I guess they fixed it
He was using the Long Range battery which will charge at 130-140kw
12:40 MG4 I am looking at with LFP has 88kW charge limit and one with bigger battery has 140kW, so it seems about right. Are ones sold in UK advertised to have 140 for LFP?
Standard range (LFP only) is 88kW. SE LR/Trophy/X-Power (all long range) and Extended Range are 140kW
One thing I'd really love to know, and it is something that can really irritate me in new cars.
Some new cars have AV systems which dont "remember" what the last used audio input was, and just default to the radio each time you start the car. Ie, you get in your car, plug your iphone in to use carplay, and the car plays the FM radio until you select "carplay". Does this car do that?
Hi there, my vehicle automatically loads car play once it’s detected
We have only ONE problem with the MG4. I cannot get hold of a Towbar for the car. It was a condition of our purchase that one would be available 'soon', that soon is now 6 months with no supply date in sight.
Someone on the MG4 fb groups has fitted one
@@stuart_thomas I wonder where it came from. MG UK are currently denying that one can even be fitted!
I think it was a 3rd party installation
Hi Stewart, nice to meet you earlier and chat about the mg , as I said , we’ve had two now and they have been great, no problems and great build quality .
Great to meet you too 👍
My iPhone is Chinese. I would definitely have an MG 4 😊
Nice honest review. You are not looking for anything special in the car. So you have a realistic view for the price point.
Hi Stuart great video. I actually drive a Tesla Model 3 SR+….and looking at MG range when my current lease ends next year…but I am puzzled as in your video you charged your MG at a Tesla supercharger? How? I thought only Teslas could use them in UK. How does it work for payment? It’s just a non Tesla EV car (Mercedes), pulled up alongside me at Fleet Services superchargers on the M3 last week and watched the driver fail to get any charge; it just didn’t work. I know in the USA Tesla are now allowing non Teslas to use their network. Anyway if you can use use them now in uk that would be good as I was getting worried about changing from a Tesla to another EV brand and losing the supercharger network.
Thanks, David
Thanks David. Some Tesla SC are open to all EVs, hopefully all soon once V4 are installed in more locations. Charging done through Tesla app as a ‘non Tesla owner’👍
@@stuart_thomas much appreciated Stuart thank you.👍
Yes, cheap and electric! If there's possibly one thing you dont want, that's cheap, it's something electric! Too expensive, too little range, which get lower over time and if you use the heater light radio etc. Not environmental as you have to mine the battery components which are toxic snd highly flammable and the cars are imported with such a massive cardbon footprint you would be more environmental to have a modern petrol or diesel! Not even that cheap to charge on the go and then you jave to wait for your turn amd then a life time for it to charge! The choice of fool! Let see how cheap they are when we all have them! How daft and neive do you have to be! 😂
I’m sure you missed a few more things out why EVs are terrible and bad. Actually, I’m sure I read an uneducated headline similar to this in the sun newspaper 10 years ago….
@stuart_thomas Yes, the sun was probably saying it 10 years ago! Obviously, that article didn't get circulated around the educted people in clown college! Just as well as well as no one would buy a clown car!! How do you drive it with the oversized shoes and hooped trousers and the bursting into flames, loss of control, and inability to move it if you run out of juice no matter how dangerois a situation is just hilarious!! 🤡🤡🤣
How is the road noise ?? I have an MG HS-PHEV and I find the road noise on electric only is noticeable. I drove a BYD Atto and it was noticeably quieter. However I really like my MG HS-PHEV apart from the road noise
I’ve driven a lot of EVs and MG4 is one of the quietest
I bought a MG4 STD in Ukraine a month ago and in the car specification max charging power is 85kW, so I think this is the right number, which corresponds to your tests.
I agree that’s it’s definitely the ceiling. It’s incredibly misleading from a consumer standpoint. The saving grace is the great charging curve👍
I think it was a late decision to flatten the charging curve, meaning lower peak but also higher valley..
I just came back from a road trip in which I use ABRP to plan my trip.. Interestingly, ABRP managed to predict how long I need to stop for charging quite accurately (within a minute or two).. So I think ABRP crew somehow got the latest charging curve info..
What price did you pay for it in Ukraine?
@@ghostnetworkNL 25K Euros, but some items are excluded in comparison to UK/EU versions: 16 steel wheels, no leather on driving wheel, no charger included, no 4G connectivity.
Wtf isn't Ukraine at war
Would tou recommend me to buy 22k 2023 model or go for brsnd new 30k
Thank you, Stuart, for the good video, and the people who have commented below on their love of this car, I am looking in future to get an EV and the MG will certainly be on my list. My only issue with EV cars is not the Cars (well the prices do come have a bearing) but the charging infrastructure, from what I have viewed, you need a multitude of apps to pay, and they all see flakey?
Thanks for the feedback, it’s greatly appreciated. Try not to be put off by charging infrastructure, it’s getting better all the time and I actually only use one app/card for everything now (Electroverse). There’s some great EVs out there especially in the used market. I’ve driven 10 used EVs for my ‘used’ series which I’m desperately trying to finish editing which are fantastic. Thanks again 👍
Thank you for this beautifull insight. I agree great car on this pricepoint. I love the LFP, and 7kW charging on solar. No meed for something else. As temperatures rise saw low consumption resulting on an estimated range on GOM 411km. Better than expected. Charging speed is once reported by my son above 100kW after software update of charger and heavy top speed driving.
my essence64 has seen 148 kw charging speed
When charging are ypu using a tesla charger, they limit charge speeds on none tesla cars
Yes. Have used Tesla charger
Thanks, Stuart. And hello! Found your channel today, and subscribed. 🙂👍
Good video as usual, Stuart. You've had yours for 6 months. We've had ours on ORDER for 6 months and still no nearer to actually getting it, our dealer says he knows nothing and cannot see any order status in his IT system, and MG (España) do not answer any of my emails. So today visited another MG dealer near Valencia and he said the same that he and none of the dealers can look up the order status. Yet he has more than 20 MG4's for sale, (none of a colour that we would be interested in) not one has been ordered so they can produce the cars for sale but cannot be bothered to produce the cars that have been ordered and paid for. Must be honest I am now starting to to relook at other cars and when i find one, will be cancelling our order and advising all to avoid MG in spain at all costs, especially as they do not reply to my emails . 🤬
Something off with your Dealer or supply chain. Here in the UK my SE LR was on order for barely a month before I took delivery!
Sorry to hear that Ian. It’s rubbish when it’s out of your ha ds
@@squareeyz Yep I know. People have ordered in Germany, France, UK and ireland and their dealers can tell them via their IT system the status of the order i.e if has a build slot, has been built, waiting for transport, is on a boat, etc. Yet here in Spain the dealers are telling us they cannot. I find that very, very, very difficult to believe that they do not have access to the same IT system. Plus the fact that MG España do not reply to any email whatsoever. Well I know that the Spanish motortrade has one of the worse reputation for dishonesty in all Europe but Ive never bought from one here so have no personal experience until NOW!
@@stuart_thomas Even if they would reply and tell me the status would be an advance, but to ignore you when you have paid is not acceptable and to me does not bode well for the future if you have one and have a problem. I have a friend, in the UK, who has just told me (he ordered the exact same colour trophy version as us 4 days before us, end of October 22) and he has been told it was built some 2 weeks ago and is now on a boat. So one would imagine that the bodywork etc as its the same colour would have been built at the same time, yet here they for some reason refuse to tell me anything or just ignore you.
Not a great way to handle your customers and they should at least try and manage your expectations (if they can I guess?).
Hi Stuart I have had my MG4 2 month now and I have load noice from the AC pump ,, wonderd if you have hade the sam issue or if you have heard about this problem ?,,,, thanks for you great videos,, have a nice day
Hi Johnny, is it like a ticking sound?
@@stuart_thomas Hi Stuart thanks for your replay,, the sound is a ticking sound from the AC pump. Have you heard or had the same experiens ?
I hear it all the time. At least I know it's working 😂😉
@@stuart_thomas 😂😂
The charging speed at are frustrating on most EV with manufacturers not really giving anything that is realistic. I have a Hyundai Ioniq 5 and although it can hit high speeds (and if you can afford the cost) the vast majority of the time it is way off what is claimed, something even 33kv on a cold night!!
It’s a great looking car, that’s a shame to hear about the charging
How is the heating in cold weather? Wondering how potent the heating element is and is there a heat pump? Here in Finland this is important in winter when you have to melt frost from windows in the morning.
No heat pump in our versions. However, never had issues in uk winter -7 coldest but I’m sure much colder where I are
why would you buy the standar one?? The luxury is only a little bit more
It’s a 6k upgrade. 6k is a lot of money! It also gets you into a congested category full of choices including second hand Tesla’s which are much better and money better spent. The only justification (for me) is the SE std range as there’s no competition
I’m still not sold on EV’s. I travel on a regular 300 mile trip from where I live to Aberdeen a trip I can do comfortably in 3 hrs on 3/4 tank of diesel. The same trip in an EV would for comfort sake take at least another hour having to take a charge break possibly using more power depending on conditions i.e winter driving using auxiliaries so until ranges are sorted out EV’s are not the car for me.
It’s a great point John and like you said EVs aren’t going to be a good use case for all. What I will say is, a charging stop for you would be around 15 mins (based on Long range model) to finish your journey and charge at home (if you can), even less in a Tesla. Thanks for tuning in and your great comment
@@stuart_thomas before I retired from bus driving we had an electric Optare Solo demonstrator. The only run we could use it on was a local circular service in a small town 5 miles from the depot. It would only do half a shift (4 hrs) before the relief driver took a normal diesel Solo to finish the shift. It took from 1300 overnight to charge it for the next morning’s work.
nice review, but we want a instrument cluster in front sterring NOT by the side, like and old tesla so NO tesla please.
There was barely a cheep from anyone when the (BMW) Mini came out with a speedo in the middle ...
Excellent in-depth review, thanks for this I'm really looking at buying one of these MG4s
Glad I could help
Very informative from a real owner
Is there wind noise at normal or high speed?
Some at high speed but generally quiet
MG is definitely on my shopping list🔥👍
I think you are harsh to complain about the dashboard ive seen much worse ! I bet the only reason you're getting it replaced is because your on UA-cam, other people won't be as lucky as you and some may not even notice it at all but it will be something for second hand buyers to look out for. Why didn't you mention the creases and what looks like a bulge on the right hand side bolster of the drivers seat it was clearly visible on your video ? Had it gotten worse in the two months since you've posted this ?
Not at all - it’s your consumer right to complain if there’s a fault and MG agreed and organised replacements accordingly.
These were organised a long time ago especially the rear motor under tray (issued replacement in weeks after purchase). My video gives others support if they experience the same issues. Bolster is fine, no issues as of yet.
@@stuart_thomas well I saw a crease in your side bolster in the video so you might want to recheck.