I'm actually interested to know as well on your experience not on many other individual issues. Please post pictures if any evidence to back up a reply. Thanks
Don't believe everything you hear or read about Century Arms and their US made AK Rifles. Some people are just haters. Report what you have found with your Rifle and all will be fine with your review.
Okay...i bought one a year ish ago, and love it, no problems at all. Half the people that bitch bout it never shot one, or have seen one....just spouting bs. Its a awesome fightin rifle, and i recommend it. 10/10 from me.
Metal doesn’t lie and its CAST its not mean to be cast trunion thats why they beat headspace fast. Not saying your rifle is not reliable matter of fact ras 47 has good accuracy but the rifle will fall apart within 5k rounds the rifle’s service life is very short and it will eventually be unsafe to use. I can guarantee you that.
OreGear Awesome man thanks, ill look into it. Also all things considered I am stuck between getting the C39V2 and the RAS47. Im leaning toward the RAS because of cost, please help me make a concrete decision. Thanks again!!
***** I would go for the RAS47. If you plan on using this as a SHTF rifle then weight is everything. Having 1.5 pounds that you can use to carry something else is very valuable. The quality difference between a stamped and milled receiver is negligible.
OreGear Noted good sir. Real quick, what are thoughts about getting an RPK? Im thinking about grabbing one of those as well. As you can tell I'm new to the AK world, being a vet all I've been into lately are my AR's.
To be honest I don't have any experience with RPKs. My understanding is that they are more or less identical other than a longer and heavier barrel and a more overall heavy build. Unless you plan on making it full auto and staying in one place, I'm not sure how practical they are. As a fellow vet I'm sure you understand the importance of gear weight. If you're going to be humping a gun over terrain, the RPK will get really heavy really really fast.
Gotcha, and yeah man if I wasn't planning on hunkering down where I'm at I wouldn't even be looking at an RPK haha. I recently moved to my current location for the exact reason of not having to lug a bunch of shit around if in fact SHTF. Thanks for your time man. Stay safe and God Bless!
+RFN FREITAS reliability is a complicated concept, relieble in terms of what ??? its extremely inaccurate beyond + 200 yards.. Its not the best but its widely available and cheap also the AMMO 7.62x39 is cheaper than a match ...Thats it...
+kilos sheen You can pick up the micro dot from Primary Arms. The Ultimak you can order with the red dot for a reduced price or you can order direct from Ultimak
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Just so you know, about that mag that doesn't fit, about 90% of the time it isn't actually rubbing against the center support rivet, it's probably rubbing on the rear of the mag-well against where the selector stop plate protrudes into the mag-well opening. But don't mess with it.
+kilos seen The Tapco side folding stock should work, however I would do a little more research into those before purchasing one. I've heard of a lot of issues with those regarding how secure the lock up is when the stock is unfolded.
Depending on where you live, I don't think AKs are ideal for home defense. Unless you have a vast amount of space between your property and your neighbors' property, I wouldn't use a 7.62x39 for home defense. The round is more than capable of leaving your house and entering your neighbors house. If you live in the country with nothing close by, I'd probably recommend a different AK. With a lot of the news coming out about these rifles, I no longer recommend them.
+Headspace Not a bad decision in my opinion. There are some killer deals on it today. If you do, let me know if yours has any issues out of the box. I think QC should be near 100% on these at this point.
~So far, I love my Century Arms VSKA AK-47, an all US made Rifle. I'm hoping with the S7 Tool Steel they're now using on the two Trunnions and Bolt Carrier they have corrected their major material problems. ~I wish Century Arms much success in the future as well as Palmetto State Armory who also makes all US made AK Rifles. We are Americans after all and we can do it. ~I've been applying a lot of Ballistol and letting it soak-in on the Maple Furniture of my VSKA to give the wood a little more ability to withstand abuse. Plus it darkens the wood a bit too. ~I think my LGS where I buy the majority of my firearms must "hand pick" their new guns because every one I've bought from them has been good. Yes, even my VSKA.
I'm new in the whole gun hobby thing, which id like to get more into. i was looking at a folding stock on primary arms and its said "Tapco Side Folding AK Stock for Stamped Receivers STK6150B", would this fit the ras 47 ? i herd about the stamped receiver in the video but during the safety portion. if i under stood correctly this Ras 47 has the stamped reciver?
I learned something here, some ranges require the chamber flag. I haven't gone to a range but I will, so that's great to know. Thanks for the video - James, NC
The rivet scratching the mag is something I just noticed. Its not a deal breaker for me either way, and besides if I really need to I can take it out and shoot a new rivet to replace it. I don't anticipate having to do that any time in the future. I also don't give a shit about the rivet scratching the paint job on my Croatian mags. I didn't buy this rifle to be pretty. I brought a good old American built combat rifle to fight. That's what AKs are for. Its a home and civil defense weapon. I intend to run it like one.
The only reason I didn't buy one of these is because of its glaring lack of a cleaning rod. I know it is purely cosmetic and some would even say trivial, but Century Arms should know that there are customers who just want the "correct" traditional AK look above all else. Not too crazy about the "new and improved" notched safety level either. I went with a High Standard Red Wood Stock AK instead. It is probably a lesser quality rifle but it does have a cleaning rod, an intact safety lever, a bayonet lug and it looks like a proper AK47.
that is because you have not fired it yet. wait until you get to that 2,000 round mark and all the cast parts crack and Century refuses to fix it. A sucker born every minute.
chad haire I will never fire that many rounds through it in my entire life. I have fired 60 rounds, making sure it works, then put it in my safe with my other guns. I just want to have one (actually more) of these, in case SHTF. I am not such an avid shooter.
What was the safety you put on? I really like it. Also I have this gun, why is there not a slot in the rear sight? How do you aim with that? Granted this is my first AK. I would recommend putting your top furniture back on and doing a video on how to remove the furniture for this gunbb
+mitchell baldwin It's a safety from Krebs Custom. They are a huge improvement of ergonomics on AK47s. I'm not sure what you mean by no slot. Every rifle I've looked at has had a rear sight notch. I may do a video on ultimak installation in the future, however I know there are already a lot of videos on that already. Thanks for watching!
Had mines for about 5yrs and not one hiccup. Since day one I field stripped it, cleaned and lubed it before going to the range and do the same after every trip to the range. I have not had one issue and just like with all my guns if you properly clean and lube your gun, and you have to use grease also it will last you a long time.
What is the overall length? I've read online that it is 37.25" but I can't see how it's 3 inches longer than other akm based rifles which are around 34.25.
+John Cho Even with my Tapco RAZR muzzle device, my rifle is sub 37". If I had to guess what the overall length would be with the standard slant break, it would be right around 35".
I like the ras ak47 i dream of owning one. I already have the sling and rail mount and pinty 3 in 1 optic id love to learn to snipe i heard its good for 380 yards
+CTROCK The first negative review I saw was AK Operator's Union. Their 5000 round test that they released recently is pretty damning. That said, mine was one of the first to hit UA-cam. Thanks for watching!
+OreGear -most of the videos I have see about this gun is they all said when u shoot couple of thousands round the gun will go to shit part on the gun will break down! I thought this gun make in the USA, so is supposed to be good? how about you have u have any problems with this gun? how many round have u shoot already?
The gun is made in the US but it's made using inferior building methods than some Eastern European countries. Most of the RAS47s will probably be fine, but they certainly have had their issues. Mine has been mostly fine other than shooting off my slant brake and my front sight being loose. I have only around 1,800 rounds through mine. I'd recommend going with something like a DDI or even a WASR over one of these.
Did you have any problem installing the Ultimak gas tube rail with wood handguard underneath? I remember someone mentioning that it doesn't fit, or difficult to make it fit, or something.
+Ryan Huh I did have to do a bit of sanding on the inside of the lower hand guard to get it on. If you skip to 10:00, you can actually see the crack in the lower hand guard from me forcing it on.
It's holding together well. I half expect it to come flying apart in a drill with all of the stress on it. Until then I'm going to rock it as is. It's my fault anyway, I got lazy and wanted to stop sanding before it actually fit properly.
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Solid, thorough review... Now that you've had it a while, what's your opinion on the RAS47? What's the round count so far and how much of it has been the cheaper Tula?? Any problems at all running that ammo?? I'm considering selling my Mini 30 for one of these. Love the Mini but it tends to be a little picky with ammo. Doesn't like Tula much at all...
***** I still really like the RAS 47. I'm at around 1200-1300 rounds with it. I would say at least half, probably more has been Tula. I've had zero issues with the rifle since that very first day I shot it dry. My only issues with the rifle are the lack of cleaning rod/cleaning kit, and it's inability to seat one of my mags, and difficulty seating a few others (I understand this issue has been fixed with newer rifles). All that said, my Arsenal is going to be my go to war gun because it suffers from none of those issues. I may even be selling my RAS in order to fund future projects. Hope that helped! Thanks for watching.
Hey I'm thinking of getting this rifle because 1) I live in NJ(behind enemy lines,lol) and this rifle falls into the nonrestrictive category because it lacks the bayonet lug, 2) is affordable and 3) saigas and vepr's have dried up. So my question is, is it worth it? Also how is it holding up after hundreds of rounds? I've been reading some horror stories and people complained about the cast trunnion,....have you experienced any problems??
+codebebop I would say they are worth it. I haven't had any issues with mine. Feel free to check out my update video here: ua-cam.com/video/9NqxidFd7jU/v-deo.html
Great review, thanks for taking the time to make it. I'm currently in the market for an Ak, and I'm really liking this RAS47, but also I'm torn between this, and a Yugo M70. Although this was a very high quality review, I still have no final decision. What do you guys think?
Travis L. Yugo M70s are good guns. My only issue with Yugos is the availability of aftermarket parts. Yugos don't take standard AKM furniture. You have to ensure you get Yugo specific parts. I just recently did a bunch of work on a friends M70 and some of the furniture that he had me install still needed fitting to make it work on his gun. One pro of the M70 over the RAS is the fact that the M70 has a slot for a cleaning rod. If you plan on keeping your AK totally stock, the M70 is not a bad option, but if you want something you can upgrade and make more usable, I would recommend the RAS.
I’m sorry to be the one to tell you, that RAS 47 is junk, it will be okay if you shoot once in awhile but if you run it hard, not so much!! Century doesn’t use cold hammer force bolt or anything that’s important that the import ak got from years of testing their akm!! Wasr 10, npap or any other will be a better first akm!
Great review! I have the c39 tactical with the ultimak n a Burris ff n love it. Century did a great job in 2015 allowing the v2 n ras to be upgraded easier. I think the new magpul furniture with the extended forearm would rock on the ras47.
Oregear,about how many rounds do you think have been shot through it?have you inspected the cast trunnion(both front and back)especially front where the bolt lugs lock in.also the end of the bolt that the hammer hits for peening or mushrooming.Some folks reporting problems due to cast parts not being properly heat treated.......thanks
+ELad Neb I haven't kept as close of tabs on my round count since this video, however if I had to hazard a conservative estimate, I'd say I'm between 1,200 and 1,400 rounds. So nothing too ground breaking. I've slowed considerably on this rifle since getting my Arsenal up and running. As far as the trunnion, I've been following Rob Ski's reports pretty closely. I haven't noticed any issues with mine up to this point. I have some slight mushrooming on the rear of the bolt carrier, however nothing beyond what you'd expect at this round count. I may film an update video tomorrow so I can show exactly what mine looks like at this point. Thanks for your question!
At OreGear - Thankfully the rifle passed my inspection but needs cleaning(just to be safe) and doesn't have the quality issues others have complained about.I haven't put any rounds through it yet but will definitely keep you posted.
+Wilfredo Dizon Great! I look forward to hearing how it works for you. I've been hearing a lot of good things since the initial release. Sounds like they figured out a lot of the issues.
Very thorough review. I really appreciate it. Looks like a winner all told. I love the cleaning rod and kit in the stock, wish they would have kept that. I guess it won't be a deal breaker for me since my next 625 is going for one of these. Can't wait to get my hands on the new magpul furniture as well. Thanks
I really think you'll like it. I've heard from someone who works for Century that they've fixed the QC issues on these so I think it'll be impossible for you to lose out on one of these. I know the stock cleaning kits won't fit in a magpie grip, but they might fit in the Magpul MOE stock that's coming out. Thanks for watching!
Great review! I bought one today. Do you have any idea where I can find a wood pistol grip to replace the rubber one. There are so many AK's out there I don't know what one will fit. Thanks for the help.Mike in Pa.
+Mike DelRossi to be honest, I don't know of any pattern differences in pistol grips. I could be mistaken but I think any AK pistol grip will fit on any AK. Thanks for watching!
+Quinn Gentry Mine has held up well. There are, however, many people that are having issues with theirs. At this point in time, I'd recommend the WASR. The new WASRs are pretty legit, plus you can have a cleaning rod. Hope that helps!
+Broz ski The sights were pretty much on right out of the box. I had to just make some small, fine adjustments. As mentioned in the video though, the front sight is probably not zeroed anymore because it's pretty loose in the front sight block. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the review! I was really excited when I heard about the RAS47, but I'm concerned about some of the QC problems that are being reported. It's good to know that your gun it working fine. I can't get this gun now because I'm in college (can't afford it) but I'm graduating in May and will hopefully get a job soon after, so it'll be an option for me soon. Maybe by then Century will fix their QC problems and they'll all be good guns. Anyway, thanks again for the review.
I can understand your hesitation. I will say though that it's difficult to find an AK producer who doesn't have quality control issues. I know that Century has the track record for bad QC, but as I said I had a brand new Arsenal AK come with a canted front post. Another company I would take a look at is DDI when it comes time for you to buy an AK. They are supposed to be high quality as well.
John Smith Well then I hope you are correct that the QC has been improved. I still can't help but be disappointed that it needed improving in the first place. Poor QC during the launch of a new product has, in my opinion, doomed the Remington R51 to never be successful. I'd hate to see that happen to Century when it already has to live down all the issues WASRs had. That said, keep making good products. There are still a few Century rifles I have my eye on.
Yeah, I had some other people recommend that as well. I wish you guys had been with me when I was at the range. You would have saved me a lot of time and headache. Thanks for watching!
I'm just armchair quarterbacking, I'm sure if I was having problems like that at the range I wouldn't have thought about it until the drive home. I appreciate the video, I've been waiting for this gun to come out, thinking about getting one
I think if you get one you won't be disappointed. Yeah there are some things I would change, but no deal breakers. I like buying American so this was a good rifle for me.
+Christopher William Hogan Between those two I would recommend the RAS. Yugos have different furniture from all other AKs that makes aftermarket parts a pain. If you plan on keeping your AK 100% standard, then I would probably go Yugo because of the cleaning rod.
+mace085 You would have to get one made for stamped receivers. The nice thing about the US made AK is you can put whatever parts you want without really worrying about 922(R) compliance. So for example AK-404BUS would work as would AK-404B. Hope that helps!
lowell houser I think the video done by AKOUL 4774 has put a serious dip in RAS sales and not without reason. I don't think the C39 or the RAS will be fully ready for prime time until they have a cleaning rod or cleaning kit. I have a bias in support of those. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for watching! I know there have been some people reporting problems with theirs but every company has their duds. Hopefully you get a good one! Let me know how yours works out.
PLEASE save up a bit more money and get an Arsenal Milled AK, currently the SAM7 series of such rifles. They feature a rail for an optic mount, have the finest receivers on the planet and feature Steyr chrome lined barrels. They will certainly outlast you and will probably outlast your kids kids and maybe even their kids. If you MUST have an inexpensive stamped AK at LEAST get one with a chrome lined barrel. The WASR's appear to be gone with only a Century offering starting with "CH" (I have forgotten the rest of the model number) still featuring a chrome lined bore and chamber. FORGET THE CLAIMS about the "new" nitride treatment, the Melonite treatment and all the newer barrel treatments that are being foisted off on the public for ONE reason only, it is MUCH cheaper to produce a rifle with these "treatments" than it is to chrome line a barrel. A chrome lined barrel with even a modicum of care will certainly outlast its owner. I have a very old SLR95 and an SLR101 both milled AK's from a couple of decades ago that have had several tens of thousands of rounds of bi-metal ammo run through both and their bores are still like new. If you want a rifle that will never fail you or any of your heirs for that matter, please consider saving a bit more money and get yourself an Arsenal SAM7 series of rifles that come in various variants with all but their underfolder having a side mounted scope rail. If you only want one AK47 and want it to last forever I highly recommend saving your money and when you can finally afford one, get an Arsenal USA bulgarian milled receiver SAM7 rifle in the variant of your choosing. Oh, and before buying ANY Century product, give their customer service department a call. That oughtta open your eyes as to what to expect should you ever need their services.
The SAM7 series are excellent rifles. Personally I prefer stamped receiver AKs myself, but your points are well taken. I no longer recommend these rifles due to all of the information that has come out since my review.
I have an Arsenal stamped AK47, a limited run of actual Izmash Russian receiver Ak's that K-Var offered for a short time. I dropped a Red Star adjustable trigger in it and it actually is my "go to" AK. I screwed up badly and added some overweight aluminum railed fore end and added all kids of lights, grips, etc.......the rifle became almost unusable it was so forward heavy......hahaha........anyway, I ended up taking all that crap off and returning it to its original fore end configuration. With the possible sole exception of the receiver/barrel being somewhat more stable and thus possibly more accurate to tell you the truth I cannot tell the difference even when using magnified optics. I like the Russian markings and the collectible nature of that single stamped Russian AK and have also read studies of long term usage and reality seems to indicate that as far as longevity goes there probably is no discernable difference between a milled and stamped receiver. You MAY obtain a slight accuracy improvement with a milled AK, especially one of the quality of the Bulgarian milled receivers that the SAM7 series comes with but you also have to consider the weight trade off as the milled rifle is a heavier gun. Six of one, half a dozen of the other I guess. I have just been amazed with my track record of Arsenal Bulgaria then Arsenal USA AK47's. I still have a very old SLR95 that dates back to........well, a few presidents back and that rifle still shoots as good today as when I got the thing used way back when. I can even remember calling Arsenal USA when they first opened their doors and the heavy slavic accent of the guy that answered the phone made the order process kinda difficult. That was THE BEGINNING of Arsenal USA out of Nevada and man they sure have grown since then! Still make the finest AK's one can get in my opinion, stamped or milled and they really go way out of the way to provide incredible customer service.
I've had a lot of luck with my Arsenal. Furthest I've shot with it was about 120 yards, but I had no issue making consistent hits on steel at that range. I've heard that the milled receivers have a greater potential for accuracy, but the results I'm getting with mine don't warrant the extra weight, in my opinion. Arsenal certainly makes great rifles, but they also have the potential to disappoint. The coatings they use are notorious for bubbling when hot and mine is not the only one I know of that came from the factory with horribly canted sights. That said, I still recommend them to people who can't afford something like a Rifle Dynamics AK.
I have never come across a canted sight on any Arsenal I have bought for either myself or for others and being a dealer that is quite a few. If such ever happened the company would provide a shipping label and fix the problem, they did that with ONE Arsenal AK I ordered that came with a deep scratch in the stock. You are right about their finish as it is little more than baked on paint. Easy to fix for say scratches but I would prefer a parkerized finish (and have had some of my own Ceracoated). Never came across any bubbling of the finish either but that too would be corrected by Arsenal if brought to their attention. I do hope that at some point Arsenal does supply their rifles with a "tougher" finish but until then I will continue to fill orders as they come in. Strangely enough in this area I have moved quite a few Arsenals as hunting rifles in this heavily wooded with thick underbrush area of the country. Great rifle for the short ranges deer hunting in these parts call for and they are in great demand for hunting Coyotes as they are a fairly hard hitting yet compact rifle to drag though this areas terrain. Heck, I might try to do a "home ceracoating" job on one of my rifles and learn by trial and error and maybe if I can "master" the process provide it as a paid service as the Arsenal AK's remain quite popular. I do wish they would begin making their stamped versions in 7.62X39 again as you are correct on the weight issue.
+Dennis Matt man, I wish they provided a shipping label. I had to pay for shipping myself which wasn't cheap because FedEx (the only shipper in my area that will ship guns) requires guns to be shipped overnight. Had to pay over $100 in shipping to get my canted sights fixed.
+OreGear -thanks! man I was thinking buying this ras47 model. but I see other videos people said ak47 jam alot now i am thinking should I buy ak47 or not? I do see all the video about this century army ras47 model no one really said anything they having a problem with this gun jam.
+CTROCK I'm not sure where you've seen AK47s jam. AKs are known for their reliability. As long as you stay away from companies like I.O., you should be fine.
+OreGear How is the SLR 107 ? I see a lot of bad stuff happening. Rust, Bubbles, chipping front trunnion? Keep an eye on it. After 3 mag dumps back to back, the rifle bubbles like crazy
I haven't had the same issues. I did a back to back dump of 75 round drums and it mostly messed up the spray paint. You can see that on the Trijicon MRO heat test I did on my old employer's UA-cam channel. ua-cam.com/video/o14e57k4eDI/v-deo.html
Any canted parts? Hows the trigger? The one that accidentally caused a discharged with RObSki was frightening. I can take headspace issues, but don't like accidental discharges.
If you're asking about my SLR I had a canted front sight. I had to send it back to the factory to get that fixed. The Arsenal trigger sucks, but I replaced it with the fantastic ALG AKT. Haven't had any accidental discharges though.
+Elliott Alameda I'm not sure about a specific quantitative difference, however I know that the difference in strength is enough to say that stamped AKs are weak. Milled is going to be stronger and thicker, but it's also heavier. I think that the abuse that stamped AKs go through in the Middle East demonstrates that stamping is "strong enough." Hope that helps!
Absolutely you could! I'm an enormous proponent of loctiting anything you attach to a firearm. I just wanted to make people aware of an issue I noticed that I haven't experienced on any other AK. I've heard numerous reports of loose front sights on RAS47's. Thanks for your question!
+BriGuy Sixty2 It's holding up very well. It's not my primary AK so it doesn't get as many rounds as my Arsenal. That said, it has not hiccuped since that first day shooting.
OreGear that's good to hear. I bought one recently and only put about 200 or so rounds through it. So far so good for mine.. EXTREMELY accurate from what I'm seeing.
+BriGuy Sixty2 Were your sights canted? How much adjustment was necessary from factory? I want another AK but don't want to go through the canted sights crap again like with the WASR...
It's a viking tactics mount with a streamlight polytac light. If I were to do it over, I'd get a Haley Strategic Thorntail mount with a Streamlight Protac Rail 2 light.
OreGear. Does the viking obscure your red dot? Yeah i was also looking into an hsp for my ras47 Just not sure if i should get the sbr or regular model.
It does not. It sits low enough that it does not obscure the sight picture. You have enough room on the ultimak rail that you would probably be fine using either the tradition thorntail or sbr version.
+john tiedd ... Now why would you call me a "dumbass"??.. I didn't post this because of something I read or heard. I own one of these and found the finish to scratch very easily!.. While changing the forend just mildly rubbing the barrel during installation the "paint" was scratching off whenever it touched. I was NOT beating, gouging, hammering, or fighting with it either. My statement is from personal experience. When you get old enough to shave. Maybe you'll ask why someone posts something instead of just calling them names... DUMBASS!!..
I just bought it last month so I called and have to file a claim but they said they will repair or replace. I'm sorta upset I don't trust these anymore it locked open and shot hot gas in my face. The right locking lug basically cracked off only to be held on by one rivet. I don't know how they can sell this crap it's almost criminal. I just want to get the word out so people don't spend 600 dollars on this junk.
+Joel Kellom As I understand it, as far as the end user is concerned, the only difference is cosmetic. I've heard there are differences when shooting corrosive ammo, but realistically there seems to be very little difference. Thanks for your question!
NOTE: I no longer recommend these due to the numerous issues that have arisen with other rifles in this line.
Still no problems with yours though?
I'm actually interested to know as well on your experience not on many other individual issues. Please post pictures if any evidence to back up a reply. Thanks
Don't believe everything you hear or read about Century Arms and their US made AK Rifles. Some people are just haters. Report what you have found with your Rifle and all will be fine with your review.
This is a lame ass statement ! You are basing your opinion on hearsay ; which counts for nothing.
JAD1225 I had a RAS47 and it exploded after the 13th mag, no it’s not hearsay they are dangerous
Okay...i bought one a year ish ago, and love it, no problems at all. Half the people that bitch bout it never shot one, or have seen one....just spouting bs.
Its a awesome fightin rifle, and i recommend it. 10/10 from me.
Metal doesn’t lie and its CAST its not mean to be cast trunion thats why they beat headspace fast. Not saying your rifle is not reliable matter of fact ras 47 has good accuracy but the rifle will fall apart within 5k rounds the rifle’s service life is very short and it will eventually be unsafe to use. I can guarantee you that.
***** The optic is a Primary Arms Advanced Micro Dot. Same battery life and mount setup as an Aimpoint micro but less than half the cost.
OreGear Awesome man thanks, ill look into it. Also all things considered I am stuck between getting the C39V2 and the RAS47. Im leaning toward the RAS because of cost, please help me make a concrete decision. Thanks again!!
***** I would go for the RAS47. If you plan on using this as a SHTF rifle then weight is everything. Having 1.5 pounds that you can use to carry something else is very valuable. The quality difference between a stamped and milled receiver is negligible.
OreGear Noted good sir. Real quick, what are thoughts about getting an RPK? Im thinking about grabbing one of those as well. As you can tell I'm new to the AK world, being a vet all I've been into lately are my AR's.
To be honest I don't have any experience with RPKs. My understanding is that they are more or less identical other than a longer and heavier barrel and a more overall heavy build. Unless you plan on making it full auto and staying in one place, I'm not sure how practical they are. As a fellow vet I'm sure you understand the importance of gear weight. If you're going to be humping a gun over terrain, the RPK will get really heavy really really fast.
Gotcha, and yeah man if I wasn't planning on hunkering down where I'm at I wouldn't even be looking at an RPK haha. I recently moved to my current location for the exact reason of not having to lug a bunch of shit around if in fact SHTF. Thanks for your time man. Stay safe and God Bless!
KALASHNIKOV..AK 47...the best weapon in the world..100% reliable yes yes yes Baby
+RFN FREITAS reliability is a complicated concept, relieble in terms of what ??? its extremely inaccurate beyond + 200 yards.. Its not the best but its widely available and cheap also the AMMO 7.62x39 is cheaper than a match ...Thats it...
If you are going to change your recommendation, please at least site specifically what issues came up so people are educated on these.
+kilos sheen You can pick up the micro dot from Primary Arms. The Ultimak you can order with the red dot for a reduced price or you can order direct from Ultimak
Thanks I appreciate the response
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really cleaning rod .some people need to complain about something
Yeah it's dumb. A bore snake works 10x better anyway.
Just so you know, about that mag that doesn't fit, about 90% of the time it isn't actually rubbing against the center support rivet, it's probably rubbing on the rear of the mag-well against where the selector stop plate protrudes into the mag-well opening. But don't mess with it.
+kilos seen The Tapco side folding stock should work, however I would do a little more research into those before purchasing one. I've heard of a lot of issues with those regarding how secure the lock up is when the stock is unfolded.
would you recommend this for home defense? thanks
Depending on where you live, I don't think AKs are ideal for home defense. Unless you have a vast amount of space between your property and your neighbors' property, I wouldn't use a 7.62x39 for home defense. The round is more than capable of leaving your house and entering your neighbors house. If you live in the country with nothing close by, I'd probably recommend a different AK. With a lot of the news coming out about these rifles, I no longer recommend them.
Great video, thanks for the info. Probably gonna purchase one of these today.
+Headspace Not a bad decision in my opinion. There are some killer deals on it today. If you do, let me know if yours has any issues out of the box. I think QC should be near 100% on these at this point.
Jesus christ, I must have fucking huge hands, my pinky hangs off of those stock century grips
~So far, I love my Century Arms VSKA AK-47, an all US made Rifle. I'm hoping with the S7 Tool Steel they're now using on the two Trunnions and Bolt Carrier they have corrected their major material problems.
~I wish Century Arms much success in the future as well as Palmetto State Armory who also makes all US made AK Rifles. We are Americans after all and we can do it.
~I've been applying a lot of Ballistol and letting it soak-in on the Maple Furniture of my VSKA to give the wood a little more ability to withstand abuse. Plus it darkens the wood a bit too.
~I think my LGS where I buy the majority of my firearms must "hand pick" their new guns because every one I've bought from them has been good. Yes, even my VSKA.
the term co-witness doesn't fit well with me...it annoys me in a weird way idk why...
I'm new in the whole gun hobby thing, which id like to get more into. i was looking at a folding stock on primary arms and its said "Tapco Side Folding AK Stock for Stamped Receivers STK6150B", would this fit the ras 47 ? i herd about the stamped receiver in the video but during the safety portion. if i under stood correctly this Ras 47 has the stamped reciver?
I learned something here, some ranges require the chamber flag. I haven't gone to a range but I will, so that's great to know. Thanks for the video - James, NC
Thanks for watching
The rivet scratching the mag is something I just noticed. Its not a deal breaker for me either way, and besides if I really need to I can take it out and shoot a new rivet to replace it. I don't anticipate having to do that any time in the future. I also don't give a shit about the rivet scratching the paint job on my Croatian mags. I didn't buy this rifle to be pretty. I brought a good old American built combat rifle to fight. That's what AKs are for.
Its a home and civil defense weapon. I intend to run it like one.
The only reason I didn't buy one of these is because of its glaring lack of a cleaning rod. I know it is purely cosmetic and some would even say trivial, but Century Arms should know that there are customers who just want the "correct" traditional AK look above all else. Not too crazy about the "new and improved" notched safety level either. I went with a High Standard Red Wood Stock AK instead. It is probably a lesser quality rifle but it does have a cleaning rod, an intact safety lever, a bayonet lug and it looks like a proper AK47.
century better quality ??? Hahahaha
chad haire
I have the Century C39V2. It is not bad.
that is because you have not fired it yet. wait until you get to that 2,000 round mark and all the cast parts crack and Century refuses to fix it. A sucker born every minute.
chad haire
I will never fire that many rounds through it in my entire life. I have fired 60 rounds, making sure it works, then put it in my safe with my other guns. I just want to have one (actually more) of these, in case SHTF. I am not such an avid shooter.
chad haire sod off already about the Ras 47. we like our non-purist ak's
Wow nice review TY for the time you put in !!!.
What was the safety you put on? I really like it. Also I have this gun, why is there not a slot in the rear sight? How do you aim with that? Granted this is my first AK. I would recommend putting your top furniture back on and doing a video on how to remove the furniture for this gunbb
+mitchell baldwin It's a safety from Krebs Custom. They are a huge improvement of ergonomics on AK47s. I'm not sure what you mean by no slot. Every rifle I've looked at has had a rear sight notch. I may do a video on ultimak installation in the future, however I know there are already a lot of videos on that already.
Thanks for watching!
+OreGear which one was it? They have a few
+mitchell baldwin The safety is the MK VI for stamped receivers
www.krebscustom.com/products/58/Krebs-Custom-Mk-VI-Enhanced-Safety-for-Stamped-Rifles
Had mines for about 5yrs and not one hiccup. Since day one I field stripped it, cleaned and lubed it before going to the range and do the same after every trip to the range. I have not had one issue and just like with all my guns if you properly clean and lube your gun, and you have to use grease also it will last you a long time.
What is the overall length? I've read online that it is 37.25" but I can't see how it's 3 inches longer than other akm based rifles which are around 34.25.
+John Cho Even with my Tapco RAZR muzzle device, my rifle is sub 37". If I had to guess what the overall length would be with the standard slant break, it would be right around 35".
+jay cee Just measured mine, it's 35.2" with the standard muzzle break included.
I like the ras ak47 i dream of owning one. I already have the sling and rail mount and pinty 3 in 1 optic id love to learn to snipe i heard its good for 380 yards
You don't keep an extra Quart of motor oil in your car? Best lube for an AK (or SKS) for that matter, is motor oil.
Are all the century ras have stamped receiver's? I was wanting the stamped receiver so I could use a slide fire stock. Thanks for the help.
Yes, all of the RAS 47s have stamped receivers. The Century C39 and C39V2 are the milled receiver AKs.
Derek Smith you CAN use the slide fire stock with the c39v2 as well, per my knowledge. it fits ALL stamped AK furniture, just like a normal AKM
Why do I see so many bad reviews about this Ras47 now on youtube?
+CTROCK The first negative review I saw was AK Operator's Union. Their 5000 round test that they released recently is pretty damning. That said, mine was one of the first to hit UA-cam.
Thanks for watching!
+OreGear -most of the videos I have see about this gun is they all said when u shoot couple of thousands round the gun will go to shit part on the gun will break down! I thought this gun make in the USA, so is supposed to be good? how about you have u have any problems with this gun? how many round have u shoot already?
The gun is made in the US but it's made using inferior building methods than some Eastern European countries. Most of the RAS47s will probably be fine, but they certainly have had their issues. Mine has been mostly fine other than shooting off my slant brake and my front sight being loose. I have only around 1,800 rounds through mine. I'd recommend going with something like a DDI or even a WASR over one of these.
Did you have any problem installing the Ultimak gas tube rail with wood handguard underneath? I remember someone mentioning that it doesn't fit, or difficult to make it fit, or something.
+Ryan Huh I did have to do a bit of sanding on the inside of the lower hand guard to get it on. If you skip to 10:00, you can actually see the crack in the lower hand guard from me forcing it on.
+OreGear I'm sorry what happened to your handguard. Still, that is one nice optimal setup. I kinda hoped I could do the same.
It's holding together well. I half expect it to come flying apart in a drill with all of the stress on it. Until then I'm going to rock it as is. It's my fault anyway, I got lazy and wanted to stop sanding before it actually fit properly.
Great review--- just found your channel via Slickguns, and very impressed with your production qualities--- comprehensive info, organization, comparisons, pacing, framing, narration, target analysis-- the list of standouts goes on and on, and did I mention that on-air personality-wise you have a great low-key vibe? No flattery intended, just the facts! Of course I'm left wondering: where is all the edgy, pounding shock-metal background music we expect from a gun channel, at least at the beginning and end? (kidding:) So: new fan in the house, subscribed, thumbs up, thank you, and mos def looking forward to more youtube goodness from OreGear!
Sorry it took me so long to respond. I really appreciate the feedback! I hope I continue to make content that you enjoy!
change that rear sight elevation assembly for a after market one it's really cheap and will break.
Solid, thorough review... Now that you've had it a while, what's your opinion on the RAS47? What's the round count so far and how much of it has been the cheaper Tula?? Any problems at all running that ammo?? I'm considering selling my Mini 30 for one of these. Love the Mini but it tends to be a little picky with ammo. Doesn't like Tula much at all...
***** I still really like the RAS 47. I'm at around 1200-1300 rounds with it. I would say at least half, probably more has been Tula. I've had zero issues with the rifle since that very first day I shot it dry. My only issues with the rifle are the lack of cleaning rod/cleaning kit, and it's inability to seat one of my mags, and difficulty seating a few others (I understand this issue has been fixed with newer rifles). All that said, my Arsenal is going to be my go to war gun because it suffers from none of those issues. I may even be selling my RAS in order to fund future projects.
Hope that helped! Thanks for watching.
Hey I'm thinking of getting this rifle because 1) I live in NJ(behind enemy lines,lol) and this rifle falls into the nonrestrictive category because it lacks the bayonet lug, 2) is affordable and 3) saigas and vepr's have dried up.
So my question is, is it worth it? Also how is it holding up after hundreds of rounds? I've been reading some horror stories and people complained about the cast trunnion,....have you experienced any problems??
+codebebop I would say they are worth it. I haven't had any issues with mine. Feel free to check out my update video here: ua-cam.com/video/9NqxidFd7jU/v-deo.html
Great review, thanks for taking the time to make it. I'm currently in the market for an Ak, and I'm really liking this RAS47, but also I'm torn between this, and a Yugo M70.
Although this was a very high quality review, I still have no final decision.
What do you guys think?
Travis L. Yugo M70s are good guns. My only issue with Yugos is the availability of aftermarket parts. Yugos don't take standard AKM furniture. You have to ensure you get Yugo specific parts. I just recently did a bunch of work on a friends M70 and some of the furniture that he had me install still needed fitting to make it work on his gun. One pro of the M70 over the RAS is the fact that the M70 has a slot for a cleaning rod. If you plan on keeping your AK totally stock, the M70 is not a bad option, but if you want something you can upgrade and make more usable, I would recommend the RAS.
I’m sorry to be the one to tell you, that RAS 47 is junk, it will be okay if you shoot once in awhile but if you run it hard, not so much!! Century doesn’t use cold hammer force bolt or anything that’s important that the import ak got from years of testing their akm!! Wasr 10, npap or any other will be a better first akm!
john brandenburg and how do you know this, I was talking about new production wasr 10. I’m sure older wasr had terrible fit and finish!
Great review! I have the c39 tactical with the ultimak n a Burris ff n love it. Century did a great job in 2015 allowing the v2 n ras to be upgraded easier. I think the new magpul furniture with the extended forearm would rock on the ras47.
Thanks for watching!
I cannot wait for the Magpul stuff to come out. Most of my firearms have something Magpul on them.
Oregear,about how many rounds do you think have been shot through it?have you inspected the cast trunnion(both front and back)especially front where the bolt lugs lock in.also the end of the bolt that the hammer hits for peening or mushrooming.Some folks reporting problems due to cast parts not being properly heat treated.......thanks
+ELad Neb I haven't kept as close of tabs on my round count since this video, however if I had to hazard a conservative estimate, I'd say I'm between 1,200 and 1,400 rounds. So nothing too ground breaking. I've slowed considerably on this rifle since getting my Arsenal up and running. As far as the trunnion, I've been following Rob Ski's reports pretty closely. I haven't noticed any issues with mine up to this point. I have some slight mushrooming on the rear of the bolt carrier, however nothing beyond what you'd expect at this round count. I may film an update video tomorrow so I can show exactly what mine looks like at this point.
Thanks for your question!
At OreGear - Thankfully the rifle passed my inspection but needs cleaning(just to be safe) and doesn't have the quality issues others have complained about.I haven't put any rounds through it yet but will definitely keep you posted.
+Wilfredo Dizon Great! I look forward to hearing how it works for you. I've been hearing a lot of good things since the initial release. Sounds like they figured out a lot of the issues.
Very thorough review. I really appreciate it. Looks like a winner all told. I love the cleaning rod and kit in the stock, wish they would have kept that. I guess it won't be a deal breaker for me since my next 625 is going for one of these. Can't wait to get my hands on the new magpul furniture as well.
Thanks
I really think you'll like it. I've heard from someone who works for Century that they've fixed the QC issues on these so I think it'll be impossible for you to lose out on one of these. I know the stock cleaning kits won't fit in a magpie grip, but they might fit in the Magpul MOE stock that's coming out.
Thanks for watching!
Great review! I bought one today. Do you have any idea where I can find a wood pistol grip to replace the rubber one. There are so many AK's out there I don't know what one will fit. Thanks for the help.Mike in Pa.
+Mike DelRossi to be honest, I don't know of any pattern differences in pistol grips. I could be mistaken but I think any AK pistol grip will fit on any AK. Thanks for watching!
Been in the market for a while. Debating between this and a wasr. How has yours held up? I might want the cleaning rod too much to go in on this..
+Quinn Gentry Mine has held up well. There are, however, many people that are having issues with theirs. At this point in time, I'd recommend the WASR. The new WASRs are pretty legit, plus you can have a cleaning rod.
Hope that helps!
+OreGear awesome. Yeah I've heard the new wasr's are sweet. Thanks for the quick reply! subbed
No problem! I hope you continue to enjoy my content!
*I had no idea that was a WARSAW length stock!!! How did no one else cover that??? HUGE selling point for me, I hate NATO stocks.*
+StayBehindTheGun I agree. Fixed NATO stocks are way too long for my liking. I think these are the perfect length for me.
What type of rail is that?
Ultimak
I picked one up with the moe furniture
WOW THAT LOOKS SO
FAKE
How were the iron sights out of the box? Did you have to do any adjustments to the front post? I'm thinking about ordering one of these for myself.
+Broz ski The sights were pretty much on right out of the box. I had to just make some small, fine adjustments. As mentioned in the video though, the front sight is probably not zeroed anymore because it's pretty loose in the front sight block.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the review! I was really excited when I heard about the RAS47, but I'm concerned about some of the QC problems that are being reported. It's good to know that your gun it working fine. I can't get this gun now because I'm in college (can't afford it) but I'm graduating in May and will hopefully get a job soon after, so it'll be an option for me soon. Maybe by then Century will fix their QC problems and they'll all be good guns. Anyway, thanks again for the review.
I can understand your hesitation. I will say though that it's difficult to find an AK producer who doesn't have quality control issues. I know that Century has the track record for bad QC, but as I said I had a brand new Arsenal AK come with a canted front post. Another company I would take a look at is DDI when it comes time for you to buy an AK. They are supposed to be high quality as well.
Just letting you know that we have straightened out several QC issues with this gun as on late. Definitely get it on your 'to buy' list!
John Smith Forgive my ignorance Mr. Smith, but when you say "we" are you saying you actually work for Century?
OreGear Yes sir I am saying that.
John Smith Well then I hope you are correct that the QC has been improved. I still can't help but be disappointed that it needed improving in the first place. Poor QC during the launch of a new product has, in my opinion, doomed the Remington R51 to never be successful. I'd hate to see that happen to Century when it already has to live down all the issues WASRs had. That said, keep making good products. There are still a few Century rifles I have my eye on.
I'd put a Krebs Custom AK rear sight/rail on it and shoot
When you forgot your lube at the range you should have pulled the dipstick out of your vehicle a couple times and used that
Yeah, I had some other people recommend that as well. I wish you guys had been with me when I was at the range. You would have saved me a lot of time and headache.
Thanks for watching!
I'm just armchair quarterbacking, I'm sure if I was having problems like that at the range I wouldn't have thought about it until the drive home. I appreciate the video, I've been waiting for this gun to come out, thinking about getting one
I think if you get one you won't be disappointed. Yeah there are some things I would change, but no deal breakers. I like buying American so this was a good rifle for me.
I really like the customization you did with your AK!!
Just picked mine up this past Saturday! Can't wait to shoot it ! Thanks for the video! Subbing!
+Wilfredo Dizon Let me know how it works out for you!
I appreciate you watching!
I've got $650 to spend on a 47. Should I go with this, or should I be looking into a Yugo?
+Christopher William Hogan Between those two I would recommend the RAS. Yugos have different furniture from all other AKs that makes aftermarket parts a pain. If you plan on keeping your AK 100% standard, then I would probably go Yugo because of the cleaning rod.
Oh my god my dad would like to get this woah!!!!!!!!!
Is there really a purest that wants an American made ak?
I want kvar handguards a on mine but idk what one to get. Would you happen to know what one would?
+mace085 You would have to get one made for stamped receivers. The nice thing about the US made AK is you can put whatever parts you want without really worrying about 922(R) compliance. So for example AK-404BUS would work as would AK-404B.
Hope that helps!
I have the exact rifke,never had a problem ,besides the front site moving due to recoil
That's not a fun issue to have.
Thanks for watching!
Unfortuneately the torture tests done by AK Operator's Union have proved this thing is not yet ready for prime time. The C39v2 IS, though.
lowell houser I think the video done by AKOUL 4774 has put a serious dip in RAS sales and not without reason. I don't think the C39 or the RAS will be fully ready for prime time until they have a cleaning rod or cleaning kit. I have a bias in support of those.
Thanks for watching!
+lowell houser
ak operators are idiots
Thanks so much for the thorough review. I was second guessing my choice until now. cant wait to get mine
Thank you for watching!
I know there have been some people reporting problems with theirs but every company has their duds. Hopefully you get a good one! Let me know how yours works out.
How's the rifle, what's the round count?
awesome review thanks for sharing your experience with the RAS47
+cometry2takeit 82 Thank you!
I appreciate you watching!
Great review,I think I'll be picking one of these up thanks!!
I don't think you'll be disappointed.
Thanks for watching!
which ultimak did you put on it, and how was the installation process?
+Marshall Lipe I used the M2-B ultimak. It's the one they offer with the vent holes.
Great review. The RAS is definitely on my list to pick up.
Good choice! I think it's a great rifle for anyone interested in AKs
I'm new to the ak world. My first ak is the century arms ras-47. What is the lever by the rear site for?
If you rotate the lever up, it will allow you to remove your gas tube for cleaning and inspection with your BCG removed.
@@OreGear thanks good to know.
I can relate to those voice cracks so hard...
Great review I'm seriously thinking about this one now.
I don't think you'll regret it. I appreciate you watching!
It's woody!!!!!
I am in the process of ordering mine from century as i watch this...thanks for the review!
Two thumbs up
I don't think you'll regret your purchase. When it comes let me know what you think of yours.
Thanks for watching!
OreGear Will do. I too plan to dress it out in the magpul zhukov/Moe kits
***** I can't wait for all the new Magpul AK gear. When their steel reinforced mags come out I probably won't buy any other kinds of mags.
OreGear Rpk mags are also a necessity.
***** Touche. I'm working on expanding my collection of those as well.
We appreciate the good lighting.
Makes all the difference.
My lighting has been spotty over the years, but I've improved significantly over the last year or so.
great video, not boring at all.
+James Corless Thanks for watching!
never seen the ultimak before, very cool - thanks!
+Hatch It's a great system!
Thank you for watching!
thanks for the review, as joe said, will go get one asap
Glad I could help. I don't think you'll be disappointed!
Thanks for watching!
PLEASE save up a bit more money and get an Arsenal Milled AK, currently the SAM7 series of such rifles. They feature a rail for an optic mount, have the finest receivers on the planet and feature Steyr chrome lined barrels. They will certainly outlast you and will probably outlast your kids kids and maybe even their kids. If you MUST have an inexpensive stamped AK at LEAST get one with a chrome lined barrel. The WASR's appear to be gone with only a Century offering starting with "CH" (I have forgotten the rest of the model number) still featuring a chrome lined bore and chamber. FORGET THE CLAIMS about the "new" nitride treatment, the Melonite treatment and all the newer barrel treatments that are being foisted off on the public for ONE reason only, it is MUCH cheaper to produce a rifle with these "treatments" than it is to chrome line a barrel. A chrome lined barrel with even a modicum of care will certainly outlast its owner. I have a very old SLR95 and an SLR101 both milled AK's from a couple of decades ago that have had several tens of thousands of rounds of bi-metal ammo run through both and their bores are still like new. If you want a rifle that will never fail you or any of your heirs for that matter, please consider saving a bit more money and get yourself an Arsenal SAM7 series of rifles that come in various variants with all but their underfolder having a side mounted scope rail. If you only want one AK47 and want it to last forever I highly recommend saving your money and when you can finally afford one, get an Arsenal USA bulgarian milled receiver SAM7 rifle in the variant of your choosing.
Oh, and before buying ANY Century product, give their customer service department a call. That oughtta open your eyes as to what to expect should you ever need their services.
The SAM7 series are excellent rifles. Personally I prefer stamped receiver AKs myself, but your points are well taken. I no longer recommend these rifles due to all of the information that has come out since my review.
I have an Arsenal stamped AK47, a limited run of actual Izmash Russian receiver Ak's that K-Var offered for a short time. I dropped a Red Star adjustable trigger in it and it actually is my "go to" AK. I screwed up badly and added some overweight aluminum railed fore end and added all kids of lights, grips, etc.......the rifle became almost unusable it was so forward heavy......hahaha........anyway, I ended up taking all that crap off and returning it to its original fore end configuration. With the possible sole exception of the receiver/barrel being somewhat more stable and thus possibly more accurate to tell you the truth I cannot tell the difference even when using magnified optics. I like the Russian markings and the collectible nature of that single stamped Russian AK and have also read studies of long term usage and reality seems to indicate that as far as longevity goes there probably is no discernable difference between a milled and stamped receiver. You MAY obtain a slight accuracy improvement with a milled AK, especially one of the quality of the Bulgarian milled receivers that the SAM7 series comes with but you also have to consider the weight trade off as the milled rifle is a heavier gun. Six of one, half a dozen of the other I guess. I have just been amazed with my track record of Arsenal Bulgaria then Arsenal USA AK47's. I still have a very old SLR95 that dates back to........well, a few presidents back and that rifle still shoots as good today as when I got the thing used way back when. I can even remember calling Arsenal USA when they first opened their doors and the heavy slavic accent of the guy that answered the phone made the order process kinda difficult. That was THE BEGINNING of Arsenal USA out of Nevada and man they sure have grown since then! Still make the finest AK's one can get in my opinion, stamped or milled and they really go way out of the way to provide incredible customer service.
I've had a lot of luck with my Arsenal. Furthest I've shot with it was about 120 yards, but I had no issue making consistent hits on steel at that range. I've heard that the milled receivers have a greater potential for accuracy, but the results I'm getting with mine don't warrant the extra weight, in my opinion. Arsenal certainly makes great rifles, but they also have the potential to disappoint. The coatings they use are notorious for bubbling when hot and mine is not the only one I know of that came from the factory with horribly canted sights. That said, I still recommend them to people who can't afford something like a Rifle Dynamics AK.
I have never come across a canted sight on any Arsenal I have bought for either myself or for others and being a dealer that is quite a few. If such ever happened the company would provide a shipping label and fix the problem, they did that with ONE Arsenal AK I ordered that came with a deep scratch in the stock.
You are right about their finish as it is little more than baked on paint. Easy to fix for say scratches but I would prefer a parkerized finish (and have had some of my own Ceracoated). Never came across any bubbling of the finish either but that too would be corrected by Arsenal if brought to their attention.
I do hope that at some point Arsenal does supply their rifles with a "tougher" finish but until then I will continue to fill orders as they come in. Strangely enough in this area I have moved quite a few Arsenals as hunting rifles in this heavily wooded with thick underbrush area of the country. Great rifle for the short ranges deer hunting in these parts call for and they are in great demand for hunting Coyotes as they are a fairly hard hitting yet compact rifle to drag though this areas terrain. Heck, I might try to do a "home ceracoating" job on one of my rifles and learn by trial and error and maybe if I can "master" the process provide it as a paid service as the Arsenal AK's remain quite popular. I do wish they would begin making their stamped versions in 7.62X39 again as you are correct on the weight issue.
+Dennis Matt man, I wish they provided a shipping label. I had to pay for shipping myself which wasn't cheap because FedEx (the only shipper in my area that will ship guns) requires guns to be shipped overnight. Had to pay over $100 in shipping to get my canted sights fixed.
Does a RAS47 fit traditional akm furniture?
+Daniel Yes it does
Is the century ras47 model jam alot? I see other videos some ak47 jam alot.
Other than trying to shoot it dry right off the bat, I haven't had any issues with malfunctions.
+OreGear -thanks! man I was thinking buying this ras47 model. but I see other videos people said ak47 jam alot now i am thinking should I buy ak47 or not? I do see all the video about this century army ras47 model no one really said anything they having a problem with this gun jam.
+CTROCK I'm not sure where you've seen AK47s jam. AKs are known for their reliability. As long as you stay away from companies like I.O., you should be fine.
+OreGear cool and thanks.
What model ultimak did you install? The M1B?
+OreGear thanks! That's the info I've been looking for! Great video!
what optic do you have on it ?
I'd still get one.
Can you put a bayonet on it
No, it does not have a bayonet lug.
Thanks for your question
Can you put a bayonet on it
+rafael Ro RAS-47's don't have a bayonet lug, so no.
nice very detailed review.
got a subscriber!!
I appreciate it! Thanks for watching!
It's a toy.
So what is the rnd count for Jan 2016? is the rifle still holding up?
+Timothy Martinez It's up to about 1,600 rounds. I really don't shoot it much anymore now that I have my SLR 107 up and running.
Thanks for watching!
+OreGear How is the SLR 107 ? I see a lot of bad stuff happening. Rust, Bubbles, chipping front trunnion? Keep an eye on it. After 3 mag dumps back to back, the rifle bubbles like crazy
I haven't had the same issues. I did a back to back dump of 75 round drums and it mostly messed up the spray paint. You can see that on the Trijicon MRO heat test I did on my old employer's UA-cam channel. ua-cam.com/video/o14e57k4eDI/v-deo.html
Any canted parts? Hows the trigger? The one that accidentally caused a discharged with RObSki was frightening. I can take headspace issues, but don't like accidental discharges.
If you're asking about my SLR I had a canted front sight. I had to send it back to the factory to get that fixed. The Arsenal trigger sucks, but I replaced it with the fantastic ALG AKT. Haven't had any accidental discharges though.
How is she holding up
+Fat Robert This is my most recent update. I haven't shot it much since I got my Arsenal up and running.
ua-cam.com/video/9NqxidFd7jU/v-deo.html
do you know how much stronger the milled is over the stamped receiver?
+Elliott Alameda I'm not sure about a specific quantitative difference, however I know that the difference in strength is enough to say that stamped AKs are weak. Milled is going to be stronger and thicker, but it's also heavier. I think that the abuse that stamped AKs go through in the Middle East demonstrates that stamping is "strong enough."
Hope that helps!
OreGear thanks for the knowledge!
+Elliott Alameda No problem!
Could you just use Loctite for the loose front?
Absolutely you could! I'm an enormous proponent of loctiting anything you attach to a firearm. I just wanted to make people aware of an issue I noticed that I haven't experienced on any other AK. I've heard numerous reports of loose front sights on RAS47's.
Thanks for your question!
ur welcome, enjoyed it
Thanks for the review just got one myself
Let me know how it works out for you!
timour hajj
what gas tube rail is that?
+Josh Watson it's an ultimak tube. They're awesome! Midwest Industries has their own version as well.
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how's it holding up? .. I bought one recently
+BriGuy Sixty2 It's holding up very well. It's not my primary AK so it doesn't get as many rounds as my Arsenal. That said, it has not hiccuped since that first day shooting.
OreGear that's good to hear. I bought one recently and only put about 200 or so rounds through it. So far so good for mine.. EXTREMELY accurate from what I'm seeing.
That's good to hear! I've been impressed by the accuracy results I've been getting with mine! Let me know if you get any issues from here on out.
OreGear I'll keep you posted. . I'm definitely gonna put it through its paces. I'll let you know if I have any issues.
+BriGuy Sixty2 Were your sights canted? How much adjustment was necessary from factory? I want another AK but don't want to go through the canted sights crap again like with the WASR...
What light mount and flashlight is that you have mounted?
It's a viking tactics mount with a streamlight polytac light. If I were to do it over, I'd get a Haley Strategic Thorntail mount with a Streamlight Protac Rail 2 light.
OreGear. Does the viking obscure your red dot? Yeah i was also looking into an hsp for my ras47 Just not sure if i should get the sbr or regular model.
It does not. It sits low enough that it does not obscure the sight picture. You have enough room on the ultimak rail that you would probably be fine using either the tradition thorntail or sbr version.
OreGear Ok. Thanks a lot for your response and help.
No problem! Thanks for watching!
what sight is that
+Baby Gotenks Primary Arms Advanced Micro Dot.
what kind of lube do you use
+Ryan Plumbtree on my AKs I generally use white lithium grease.
Thanks
I'm new to AKs I figured it out I'm just stupid lol
+mitchell baldwin No worries, we all have to start somewhere
The finish on these are crap!.. Like they're spray painted with cheap rattle can paint...
Are you serious? The finish is 100x better than an Arsenal. Maybe it has cast trunnions but the finish is superb.
+Bernard Milot
the finish is second to none dumb ass
+john tiedd ... Now why would you call me a "dumbass"??.. I didn't post this because of something I read or heard. I own one of these and found the finish to scratch very easily!.. While changing the forend just mildly rubbing the barrel during installation the "paint" was scratching off whenever it touched. I was NOT beating, gouging, hammering, or fighting with it either. My statement is from personal experience. When you get old enough to shave. Maybe you'll ask why someone posts something instead of just calling them names... DUMBASS!!..
+Bernard Milot No, the finish on the RAS is actually excellent. The bolt and bolt carrier on the other hand is made of butter.
My bolt got a crack in it but the nitriding looked good.
500 rounds and my front trunion cracked
+mike grice yikes! What did Century do about that? Stories like that are why I added the note in the description.
I just bought it last month so I called and have to file a claim but they said they will repair or replace. I'm sorta upset I don't trust these anymore it locked open and shot hot gas in my face. The right locking lug basically cracked off only to be held on by one rivet. I don't know how they can sell this crap it's almost criminal. I just want to get the word out so people don't spend 600 dollars on this junk.
That's too bad, I don't blame you for not wanting another RAS 47. What I would do is get it repaired/replaced and sell it.
why do people prefer 90 degree gas blocks over 45 degree?
+Joel Kellom As I understand it, as far as the end user is concerned, the only difference is cosmetic. I've heard there are differences when shooting corrosive ammo, but realistically there seems to be very little difference.
Thanks for your question!