Gardiner Expressway plans collide with transit on the campaign trail
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- Опубліковано 2 тра 2023
- Mayoral candidate Brad Bradford wants to speed up reconstruction of the Gardiner Expressway while Olivia Chow plans to halt it and use the money for a dedicated bus corridor to replace the Scarborough RT. Mark McAllister breaks it down.
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Just tear the whole thing down already, that thing is a money pit.
@@geelangfordo3272 Guess I saved the Toronto taxpayers half a billion dollars by cancelling it halfway through! You're welcome! :)
You’re braindead
By the time they finish reconstruction of the Gardiner it will have taken so long and it will have worn down again so they'll just have to start it over again.
The Gardiner is a disaster that can never be fixed. The only way to fix traffic is to get people out of their cars with sticks and carrots. More lanes only lead to more traffic.
More lanes leads to more traffic? Probably dumbest statement I read all day
@@goylanddefree80 No, it's called induced demand and it's been proven over and over. Read a book, smh.
@@goylanddefree80 401 is 16 lanes long yet there is still bumper to bumper traffic. people avoid going out due to traffic. if more lanes are made, cars move faster. people see this and go out when they wouldn't have before. but then they reach downtown which still has the same old roads. so more traffic downtown.
@@goylanddefree80 it’s called “induced demand”
@Ian Tan it's called traffiv volume 401 has way too many cars for the 16 lanes you speak of. Add more = fewer traffic. Can't believe I have to explain this.
Tear it down takes up so much space and constantly needs spending that could be directed to build transit oriented development
The Gardner is the route for people in Riverdale, Lesleieville, The Beach, to get out of Toronto. It's a nightmare now, and a lot of people now drive along Danforth to get on the DVP south to get to the Gardner. Even getting to the market on Saturday morning is a difficult because so many are driving on city streets to get to Jarvis (where the market is located) to access the Gardner.
How does one pick from amongst so many terrible ideas? Most of these talk only about spending more money. Anyone want to talk about reversing the loss of office workers and related tax revenues? How about the budget deficit that the city cannot borrow to cover?
prefab building. awesome.
Just make it underground like Montreal, the corridor has so much potential yet its just waisted with the expensive repairs. 1 billion just for repairs? How long until more repairs have to be make.
...have you heard of the big dig? Yeah we don't need that issue recreated. Get rid of Gardiner and rebuild a better surface level lakeshore with a transit right of way. Increase GO transit funding to allow higher frequency. More lanes or underground lanes are just more money and wont fix the problem
Tear down the Gardiner and replace it with a Greenway.
@@geelangfordo3272 Apparently lakeshore boulevard doesn't exist. Oh well, maybe I'm just being a myopic Vancouverite, as our city never had a downtown expressway, and has less congestion than Toronto, even with one of the largest, busiest shipping ports in North America that connects with a trans-national mega-region of ten million people as well as the rest of Canada.
@@RoboJules good luck getting around town
@@SnowWhite-hr4ho Is GO, the TTC, or Metrolinx some strange figment of my imagination?
@@geelangfordo3272 Stop driving downtown then. Take a bus, a subway, a train, or a streetcar. Toronto traffic is unfixable nightmare due to such a high population density and such an antiquated road network. No realistic amount of highway will improve that - not even the Katy Freeway in Houston can properly alleviate congestion. The only solution is restricting car use through road diets and congestion taxes, and replacing them with transit, walking, and cycling. Freeways through city centres is the single worst idea implemented by urban planners. They objectively make traffic worse, not better, as all you're doing it funnelling traffic into the most restricted, high density street network in the city. Again, Vancouver doesn't have one, and our traffic isn't half the nightmare that Toronto deals with.
@@geelangfordo3272 Just ban private cars then, and still allow trucks. Problem solved :) I'm on a roll here, maybe I should run for mayor.
From an objective view as an American visiting world class Toronto, the very best long term solution is to make all of the Gardiner UNDERGROUND similar to Boston's Big Dig! This would make the freeway faster (with limited well planned exits/entrances to meet Downtown streets of Toronto) and make a huge amount of valuable lakefront land open to development to plan for parks, offices, nightlife, and.residences that would pay substantially to property, hotel, restaurant, entertainment, and tourism taxes for the city of Toronto and provincial Ontario. A reasonable national and provincial push for funds is crucial as Toronto is the largest world city and prime financial mover of Canada. This expense would benefit all Canadians worth the cost for investing in the future of Toronto. Also, improve the subways of the entire GTA to surpass Montreal's quality as that would also exponentially magnify revenue let alone vastly improve transportation (such as easing the 401 parking lot as well as downtown congestion).
Modular housing is the way to help the impoverished and homeless in this city. Saunders understands and knows this. Plus keeps them in an area where they can shop for groceries etc , the others, especially woman , ' my plan hasn't a clue and obviously hates the homeless. And impoverished poor . As she has no mention of helping any. Definitely lost my vote. Saunders is the way to vote inmho.
all these mayoral candidates are just throwing ideas hoping it sticks. Like the Gardiner refurbishment, I thought that was a go 100% now Olivia Chow is proposing we take it down altogether for a rapid transit route? What does that do for people who drive? As it is, they only took down a portion of the Gardiner/QEW that affects drivers coming from the East end beaches area. They have to fight gridlock until about Jarvis or thereabouts to get on the highway. I rarely have to fight traffic with my commute as it coincides with just before the morning rush and after the evening rush but any excursion to downtown has to be a heavily weighed decision because that gridlock takes about a year off my life span each trip. I avoid the downtown core like the plague when I don't have to be there.
All in all, I really don't know which candidate to vote for; not that it matters as campaign promises more often than not falls flat when it's time to deliver and execute.
Don’t drive then.
@@TakeTheBikeTO I respect cyclist but your tacit suggestion is asinine and doesn’t work for a great majority who can’t rely on public transit or manual transport. We need better infrastructure, full stop.
@@MisterMister5893 We definitely need better transportation, but you can still get wherever you want in Toronto without a car just fine...
@@geelangfordo3272 One's saying Toronto roads are gridlocked, one's saying its 2-4x faster than transit, y'all gotta make up your minds here.
This is why I just bike lol...
@@MisterMister5893 Cars already get 99% of the infrastructure
WOW!
Save me 10 minutes! Amazing!
+sarcasm+
Isn't that the same argument drivers are using for Highway 413...