Thermoking by far! I maintain a fleet which had all thermoking refers but to save a couple bucks they bought some carriers. Those carriers were having serious issues and they went back to the carrier dealer for warranty work with less than 500 hours while the tk precidents had no issues with 9,000 + hours.
I still have many questions, but to summarize: Thermo Кing is more reliable, quieter, but parts are more expensive and are better suited for chilled and heated freight ( I guess +20* F to +80* F ). Carrier is better for frozen ( I guess -20*F to +80*F ) loads, parts are cheaper but less reliable. What about age of the units, service hours, fuel consumption, and what parts on both units need to be swapped for new ones after how many service hours (what can I expect to have to replace after so many hours?). Please advise guys as I'm thorn between buying a dry box ( easy work for less $ ) and a reefer ( more $, but fuel, insurance, and potential freight claims are very discouraging), but I don't understand all the mechanical nuances.
Both units run for long time each unit can reach above 30000 engine hrs. It all depends if you can get load rate to sustain your business. Reefer loads do take nose dive in the winter time. Starting from January can go all the way up to March , so load rate stay very low. However, the dry van business the load price don’t fluctuate as much. It all. If you are going to buy Reefer trailer buy with low engine hrs less the 7000. I hope this helps.
Carrier parts are very cheap. Had to replace 4 genuine starters in 8 months, blow up the compressor, fan clutch was a nightmare... TK is the way to go for me. My TK SB 210 has 38k hours on, runs like there is no tomorrow. I also had Carrier for 2 years, which constantly broke down.
Yes both the carrier and thermoking have condenser fan to provide air flow. But if you have truck with large side faring that restricts the fresh air flow in this situation the carrier units tend to shut down and start again. This happens when the Reefer is parked with the tractor. I hope this helps.
Golden Child All three of my trailers have Carriers, large side extenders, small tractor trailer gap; never happens. I used to pull for a 150 truck carrier, same setup, never had one shut off. Company driver with a mega carrier when I first started, same situation, never had one shut off. I’m not sure where you’re getting this idea from? If you have problems with units shutting off that you’re pulling, it’s not properly maintained, not lack of fresh air.
I prefer the 7500 as well. It doesn’t matter how old is your unit , It will always go to -10to -20 With Thermo king you can’t expect the same results. Lol
The Thermo King s c 600 only used one drive belt. Vers three on most Carriers, Because the Thermo king units use a generator to drive three electric fans.
I like the thermoking more compare to the carrier. I bought used trailers so I looked for body and the hrs on the unit. Carrier are used by a lot of major fleet and tends to have less hrs compare to thermoking
@@citizenofearth1000 Our fleet of well over 100 units are 100% ThermoKing, Otherwise known as Abbyland, Some of our SB-400 units have well over 50,000 switch hours, And still transferring Heat 😁.
If you are buying carrier or thermoking used make sure the units have low hrs. Look for unit under 7000 engine hrs. It all depends on what kind of load you going to move. If your loads are fresh produce 35 degree year around thermoking is better. If you are pushing frozen load get carrier is better
I have seen refers pushing 40k-50. Just keep in mind when you do -10 or -20 loads. If you got carrier you can probably get away with it but if you sb210 or 230 it’s going to struggle specially 110 f temp outside. When it’s really hot outside avoid doing - temps and do your maintenance regularly. You can probably squeeze another yr or 2 out of the unit.
Carrier 7300 x4 is a fukin junk! Had bunch of wiring problems on 2016 reefer with 5k hours and now I need to replace main micro module that costs $2300 just a module and reprogram and remove and replace will add another 500-600$ so total 3k that I need to spend. It runs so loud and had to replace exhaust manifold twice already. This is my last carrier. Go with Thermo king and save yourselves money and time with family
What kind of loads you haul. Do you get oil changes done some local shop. I had good experience with carrier. Mainly because it used kubota engine with no filter or egr stuff on it. Thermoking sb units are very good and reliable units
@@citizenofearth1000 i dont care about the positive points that thing keeps the whole truck stop awake at night. im throwing a huge party when carrier goes out of business
Thermoking by far! I maintain a fleet which had all thermoking refers but to save a couple bucks they bought some carriers. Those carriers were having serious issues and they went back to the carrier dealer for warranty work with less than 500 hours while the tk precidents had no issues with 9,000 + hours.
other than the mechanical issues thermo king runs with less noise
Thermoking is a lot more quieter than carrier. Carrier sales vector unit which is also quieter.
Why are you whispering? Put some air in those lungs son!
My best guess is not to wake up a wife and make her mad ?!
Mic issues made another video
I could hear just fine have some respect! He's doing us a favor by sharing knowledge
I still have many questions, but to summarize: Thermo Кing is more reliable, quieter, but parts are more expensive and are better suited for chilled and heated freight ( I guess +20* F to +80* F ). Carrier is better for frozen ( I guess -20*F to +80*F ) loads, parts are cheaper but less reliable. What about age of the units, service hours, fuel consumption, and what parts on both units need to be swapped for new ones after how many service hours (what can I expect to have to replace after so many hours?). Please advise guys as I'm thorn between buying a dry box ( easy work for less $ ) and a reefer ( more $, but fuel, insurance, and potential freight claims are very discouraging), but I don't understand all the mechanical nuances.
Both units run for long time each unit can reach above 30000 engine hrs. It all depends if you can get load rate to sustain your business. Reefer loads do take nose dive in the winter time. Starting from January can go all the way up to March , so load rate stay very low. However, the dry van business the load price don’t fluctuate as much. It all. If you are going to buy Reefer trailer buy with low engine hrs less the 7000. I hope this helps.
What did you end up going with?
Please explain why carrier is better for frozen loads..
thank you so much for this
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Carrier parts are very cheap. Had to replace 4 genuine starters in 8 months, blow up the compressor, fan clutch was a nightmare... TK is the way to go for me. My TK SB 210 has 38k hours on, runs like there is no tomorrow. I also had Carrier for 2 years, which constantly broke down.
Thermoking is a lot more stable. Carrier can be hit and miss.
Thermo King 👌👌👌👍
Thermoking is very good unit
The truck blocking air flow to the condenser is not a concern. Both Carrier and TK have condenser fans to solve that problem.
Yes both the carrier and thermoking have condenser fan to provide air flow. But if you have truck with large side faring that restricts the fresh air flow in this situation the carrier units tend to shut down and start again. This happens when the Reefer is parked with the tractor. I hope this helps.
Golden Child All three of my trailers have Carriers, large side extenders, small tractor trailer gap; never happens. I used to pull for a 150 truck carrier, same setup, never had one shut off. Company driver with a mega carrier when I first started, same situation, never had one shut off. I’m not sure where you’re getting this idea from? If you have problems with units shutting off that you’re pulling, it’s not properly maintained, not lack of fresh air.
i like the 7500
I prefer the 7500 as well. It doesn’t matter how old is your unit , It will always go to -10to -20 With Thermo king you can’t expect the same results. Lol
Some loads require you to have thermoking Like Ice cream loads
Good to know
Thank you for whispering
Made another video regarding the same topic
The Thermo King s c 600 only used one drive belt. Vers three on most Carriers, Because the Thermo king units use a generator to drive three electric fans.
I like the thermoking more compare to the carrier. I bought used trailers so I looked for body and the hrs on the unit. Carrier are used by a lot of major fleet and tends to have less hrs compare to thermoking
@@citizenofearth1000 Our fleet of well over 100 units are 100% ThermoKing, Otherwise known as Abbyland, Some of our SB-400 units have well over 50,000 switch hours, And still transferring Heat 😁.
Bro i just heard all the “s” in the words
I will try to do better videos next time thanks
nice useful information
Thanks a lot
So wich is the best? I goin to star in reefer soon i need to know
If you are buying carrier or thermoking used make sure the units have low hrs. Look for unit under 7000 engine hrs. It all depends on what kind of load you going to move. If your loads are fresh produce 35 degree year around thermoking is better. If you are pushing frozen load get carrier is better
Is 32k hours to old?
I have seen refers pushing 40k-50. Just keep in mind when you do -10 or -20 loads. If you got carrier you can probably get away with it but if you sb210 or 230 it’s going to struggle specially 110 f temp outside. When it’s really hot outside avoid doing - temps and do your maintenance regularly. You can probably squeeze another yr or 2 out of the unit.
SPEAK UP!!
Made another video recently
You need to speak loud. Y friend!!
Made another video mic issues
Carrier 7300 x4 is a fukin junk! Had bunch of wiring problems on 2016 reefer with 5k hours and now I need to replace main micro module that costs $2300 just a module and reprogram and remove and replace will add another 500-600$ so total 3k that I need to spend. It runs so loud and had to replace exhaust manifold twice already. This is my last carrier. Go with Thermo king and save yourselves money and time with family
What kind of loads you haul. Do you get oil changes done some local shop. I had good experience with carrier. Mainly because it used kubota engine with no filter or egr stuff on it. Thermoking sb units are very good and reliable units
Is he talking? I can’t hear anything!!!
I will make another video
Why are you whispering?
Mic problems made another video
shhh this is a library!. also carrrier sucks!
Carrier has positive and negative points
@@citizenofearth1000 i dont care about the positive points that thing keeps the whole truck stop awake at night. im throwing a huge party when carrier goes out of business
Get to the point lol
I will try my best next time. Thank you for your feedback.