Beneteau Oceanis 30.1 - crammed full of smart ideas - Yachting Monthly
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- Опубліковано 19 лис 2022
- Yachting Monthly Editor, Theo Stocker takes a look around the Beneteau Oceanis 30.1, a rare entry-level Oceanis which aims to redefine what owners should expect from a smaller yacht.
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Love this guy… “twin helms, one to starboard, one to port”. !!! And flush hatches, one of which “goes down, and up again”. I’m still not entirely sure whether he was taking the piss or not but I had a good chuckle! Cheers. 👍🤣
I love this boat. It reminds me of a modernized version of my old C&C 30 Mk2.
Just sailed exactly same one in Valencia. On sailing performance I am not a guy with much experience, but I think it was doing what is intended. Setting the main sail requires watching for the square top of the sail not to get stuck in the lazy jacks. Quite maneuverable with its two rudder blades, but this also makes the jet from the screw not wash the rudder blades, so not as maneuverable on motor at slow speeds. B&G chart plotter and remote were intuitive and easy to use, I was single-handed and always on autopilot, which works great. The main sheet is strange and requires using a winch, I prefer pulley systems which you can control easier. Reefing system uses a pulley for the tack of the sail, you can remain in the cockpit, which is good. The Genoa works great, the sheets have attachment points which are tunable without leaving the cockpit.
The interior is cheap, wooden panels crumble and screws get loose, handles of water taps get corrosion. The companionway door is a disaster, it is a sheet of heavy acrylic which you need to slide in. The lower part of it can clap up or down, and you will definitely stumble on it, because it is transparent.
Great presentation and nice boat
I wish for chart tables like that, they had some holes under the cushion to make a seat back from rods and the removable insert.
The best argument for a well sorted 70's Cruiser / Racer for 1/10 the price!
My 32’ Farrier trimaran has almost as much cabin space now that I’ve chopped and changed it inside, the rear cabin is too claustrophobic but great for storage and locking stuff up while moored and it’ll move on a puff of wind, sail over reefs that no 30’ mono regardless of keel will manage and yes it’s used but it’s all professionally resprayed inside and out, reupholstered and sorted fully off grid even with a/c for however long I want to spend on/in it, it’s a great island hopper if you watch the weather and it’s pretty much all set for at least ten more years which’ll see me out and owes me around $100kAUD not including a new main and self tacker up front which I don’t need for a while just I want black sails and at 68 I reckon an automatic out there specially on such a light boat makes perfect sense as I don’t intend to race race it (I’m lucky I can diy most of what needed doing including be a custom painter) I saw the under sail performance of these and thought... hmmmm but it’s still only a coastal boat and won’t even do what my old tri does: if it was rated to safely cross the ditch then maybe but for what would be a one time only return crossing there’s plenty of good old full keepers up to and over 40’ with Orca proof rudders around in good nic for under $40kAUD then flog it even at a loss if I don’t end up staying there... I’m a late starter and all I really want apart from spending the rest of my winters on the Whitsundays is to sail into Milford Sound with my son in law... and probably not come home, nah, you’d have to at least cruise this side... my tri could do it but it’s a big chance on what can make an Atlantic crossing look like a river and at what they want for this and considering it’s not rated to do it pffft.
Think I'll go for a used Moody 33 centre cockpit 25k.
Much better option, indeed.
how's the build quality on those? are parts readily available to maintain them?
Just sailed one of them. Interior build quality is poor because of the choice of cheap materials. Water tap handles get corrosion, especially in the bathroom. Curtain buttons - the same. All 'wooden' parts crumble and screws get loose. On the deck it is all pretty standard, except I could not turn the nav lights on, except for motoring, and with the main sheet you have to use the winch, and I would prefer a nice pulley system instead.
Good to know the crew won't be sticking to the visible interior grp structural members 14:10
Yeah, nice little boat with apparently some fairly good performance under sail but not at the bare boat new price here in Australia. What peeves me with boat adds is they give you the top speed motoring but rarely under sail which is why you buy an f’ing sail boat... I couldn’t care less how fast the motor is unless of course I’m circumnavigating.
I’m surprised to rather like this boat. (I usually think of beneteau as ritzy style with little substance.) But this seems to move in the direction of being more practical at 30 ft in the tradition of pocket cruisers. I’d rather see more keel and slacker bilges, but for a “modern” design, not bad!
14:10 I hope it's non-slip, and not non-stick! :D
I dont understand how you can see your chartplotter when at the helm?
Yeah I wondered the same. Need to rely on a second person to guide you I think.
Palacial luxury, almost a super yacht. But there again,I sail a Contessa 26😀.
All due respect, I would go for an Azuree 33 (or Azuree 33C), both a better build quality and a nicer design. Not to forget the main sail traveller at Azuree ...
So I looked at tha Azuree 33C because of your comment. I have mixed feelings about the mainsail traveller right where invitees from shore can trip over it or stub their toes aft on the cockpit sole. The completely open fore-cabin option would be an absolutely deal-breaker. I trust there are far more practical options. The heads are very small but have that Turkish, unnecessary 'designer' touch, i.e. impractical raised washbasin. I am sure the radical hull of the Azuree 33C has been an influence on the design of the Oceanis 30.1 but I see little to commend the former over the latter. I have not even seen the headroom figures for the Azuree 33C but, being Turkish, I cannot imagine they will compare favourably. Thanks for the distraction.
@@timmillea I think the performance cruisers like Grand Soleil, Azuree, Dehler etc have a slightly different target group, those who insists on main sail traveler. I guess for that reason for example Azuree calls itself something like `sailors' sailing yacht`. I had asked the same question about the master cabin door and I've been told that a door was available for the master cabin. As for the headroom, I am 186cm tall and I do not remember any problem when I visited one at a boat show. Check the channel 'East of the Sun', the Dutch couple sailing the Med on an Azuree 33C and they are not midgets either, being Dutch...
What I like about Azuree is that they use Vinyl ester, rather than polyester that Beneteau, Jeanneau, Bavaria, Hanse etc crowd use (or used to until 1 or two years ago). It is truly a solid build. Also visiting successive boats in the boat show, you immediately notice that the furniture etc are much better. Not to forget that, Azuree always design their boats for sailors. i.e. they do not sell boats with `minimum number of vinches` just to save a few dollars.
As for the design, my favorite is the predecessor Azuree 33 model. With the later model Azuree 33C they adopted some conformism following the conventional windows etc.
To be honest, I did not pay much attention to the sink when I was visiting the boat, but nothing seemed odd. On the contrary, a solid boat.
@@puertola7186 I am 1.93m and have a 'wingspan' to match hence my concerns over headroom and heads size. Your reply is much appreciated. I have contacted Sirena Marine and a dealer for a price list and options and I will check 'East of the Sun' next. As I am interested in electric propulsion, it may be better to buy a used Azuree 33 and refit. Many thanks!
@@timmillea Just to make sure; I am 186cm and entered Azuree 33C in a boat show a few years ago. It was fine with you but I do not know about 193cm, to be honest. It is a great idea to have a second hand and refit with electric motor! It is very disappointing that boat manufacturers still do not include electric propulsion as an option and instead insist on toxic diesel.... I think some weel-kept Azuree 33 s are around. Those people at 'Sailing Around the Med' channel got themselves a pretty good one, though they did not disclose the price... Good luck.
i really like the layout, they manage to make a very usable interior. The cockpit is horrible though, there is nowhere to sit and use the helm, you look like your going to fall off the back.
The instrument location is not exactly handy is it! Doubt my eyes could make out those screens or even the compass.
This is three years old boat, currently you can opt for a pedestal and then your plotter will be in front of helm.
Not a word on construction method ? Otherwise good presentation, I don't have 160000! lying about at this time.
"It looks remarkably good after three years". Well, hopefully! I'm not a fan of these French marina-boats. They look really basic and low quality to me. As a place to have some drinks with your friends at the marina, they are perfect, but other than that...
Too narrow for me. Inside is very small.
I was never a big fan of the luxury economy family sports cars of the 1980s.
Arrangement and space inside is poor.
The cheap-o IKEA interior wood on modern boats drives me crazy.
how did you know its cheap? do you know what wood that is and how much?
I can’t see how making these boats isn’t profitable, there’s nothing comfortable left in it, but the rigging is really elaborate for a 30 footer. It’s built to single-hand from the cockpit, but with a flat-pack CNC cut interior. I can’t understand why this is the way it is, it makes no sense. No family young enough to sail can afford to buy a new boat. £160,000 for a 31’ boat? No wonder you have to have club to buy one.
these are insanely overpriced. lowest price I can find for a used one in the US is $178k. Still, its a lot of 30 footer.
This seems Overpriced
Small things tell us a lot about poor design for sea passage. Drawers and lockers would do good in a house, and certainly not for the rock-and-roll passage at sea. Cruiser? O my goodness!
This is a joke. The fore-peak for two adults? No way. One person only. The narrow footbox and the anchor locker above. Are you kidding? I think it might be a good day sailor. Maybe. But a weekend cruising boat. Guaranteed that everyone will sleep well when they get home.
Yes, a day sailor. At best a weekender.
I disagree. My partner and I sail a 1992 Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 31 and we sleep in the forward cabin (we prefer the light) - I’d say it’s probably even a touch smaller than this fore-peak. We’ve spent 6 weeks on her in one trip and regularly do 1-2 weeks at a time, I’m 6ft tall and she is 5ft6. It’s certainly tight, but on the flip side we can slip into tiny harbour spots, our marina fees are significantly smaller and she just feels right for us! We can cook, wash, sleep onboard all just fine 😊. For us there’s also something that feels great about visiting a small bay and feeling like a real integrated part of the environment, we’ve got all that we need and few other distractions.
Disagree - sailed this (not this but another 30.1) boat 2 weeks straight w/5 adults - super comfortable, capable in big seas, and plenty of power and speed even from a furling main - more room than many 35’ and 37’ boats I sailed over the years…love these UA-cam commenters who have no idea what they are talking about, but soooo sure of their superior intellect - no wonder everyone loathes these old-sailor blowhards…get a life and go polish the teak on your 30 year old full-keel bathtubs
The repeating of "a boat this size" made me uncomfortable as it felt like you are telling me this boat is small for poor people!
A 30-foot boat should NOT have a wheel. Anything under 35 ft - tiller! Wheels have so many disadvantages. Wheels only make sense when boats are so large that the tillers become unreasonably long, or too heavy.
What a cheap ugly sailboat, the manufacturer should be shamed not only for producing and then asking for a ridiculous amount of money . There's nothing more to say!!!
30 foot boat with 6 foot draft. LOLOLOL. This boat is cheaply made, expensive, poorly designed.