Is Lionel Messi the greatest footballer of all time after World Cup win? - BBC News
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- Опубліковано 18 гру 2022
- Argentina’s Lionel Messi has an impressive number of awards and trophies to his name.
The 35-year-old has won seven Ballons d'Or, four Champions Leagues, one Copa America, 10 La Liga titles with Barcelona and a Ligue 1 crown in France with Paris St-Germain.
But now, after playing in five tournaments - the first in 2005 - the Argentina captain has added the World Cup to his collection.
So, does this mean Messi is football’s greatest?
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4 finals lost, 1 crucial penalty missed, retirement, then coming back to win the Copa America , Finalissima and now WORLD CUP. Perseverance, sweat, blood, tears. What a story.❤
Above all he's not a Muslim.
@@bornchyne4925 bruh you are racist fuck
@@bornchyne4925 yeah not a terrorist
@@bornchyne4925 inshallah he will be in future
@@bornchyne4925 please don't bring religion into this.
He was the best even before this World Cup. This World Cup makes him immortal.
he cannot play worldcup anymore
Rigging
@@Miuranger1 Rigging? How do you rig a penalty shootout? You are just hating.
Mbappe is doing double figures,,Mbappe is better than Messi now
@@JP-kt2xb bruh they gave him 5 penalties or 6. 4 of them were massive sus
The best longevity out of them all (20 years at the top). The highest peak out of them all (91 goals year). The most accolades out of them all (team and individual). Truly the GOAT of the game.
King Leo
**Pelé enters chat**
Not 20, 14-16 years at top
@@bobcprimus And gets surpassed.
@@themerovingian7154 most legends only spend 5-10 years at the top, shows how hard messi works
He was the greatest before winning and naturally he is the greatest after winning. The most complete player ever, the heartbeat of every team he plays at. The epitomy of the quote: “A talent hits a target no one else can hit; A Genius hits a target no one else can see". Movement and dribbling akin to art, passing that seems to defy reality and the most prolific goalscorer the game has ever seen. Everyone who knows football can instantly see why Messi is the most special talent ever. People are coming to back up all these claims with stats and statswise he is the greatest as well, but it is truly unnecessary, just watch him. Watch as he makes impossible passes multiple times per game. . Watch as he dribbles through players like they are not there even at 35. Watch as he dictates every facet of the game, the tempo, the creation, the scoring. Watch as he scores goals so special that they make millions of hearts beat in the same rythm. Messi is football at the purest form, effortless, fluid and fun. And for people who have played the sport , it is downright insane that he seems to solve any problem that football can throw at him with the most effective and efficient way possible, and at times with ways that he and only he can see. What a special special player.We are lucky to have witnessed him.
You nailed it. I never blive he needed the world cup to be the GOAT. Winning it just make him immortal. Congrats once more to Messi the god of the game
Ever heard of a guy named Pele ?
@@fowono2007 yeah, we have heard about him and he is top 3 behind Messi and Maradona. Soooo????
@@fowono2007 These Argentinians have tunnel vision , Pelé is the king , won WC AT 17, and won 3 of them.
In Pele's time it was easier to PLAY FOOTBALL and win the WORLD CUP, THE TACTICAL SYSTEMS IN PÉLE'S TIME THAT THE OPPONENTS ASSEMBLED TO PARALOAD, PÉLE BROKE THOSE SYSTEMS EASILY, ''BECAUSE THE DEFENSIVE SYSTEMS WERE ARCHAIC'
AND THE SKIN WAS MARKED BY MASONERS AND SERVANTS WHO DIDN'T EVEN KNOW 'MARKING RIGHT,
AND PELE HAD MORE SKILLED PLAYERS TO HELP HIM AND HE HAD MORE FREEDOM, ''THE DEFENDERS IN PÉLE'S TIME DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO MARK RIGHT, BECAUSE THE '''TACTICAL SYSTEMS AT THE TIME''' PREVIOTED THE MOST ABILITIES,
And it put in difficulty the work of the ''LESS ABILITIES, (( DEFENSIVE SYSTEM )) THAT IS THE ´MARKERS'',,,,
Today it's the opposite, Tactical and defensive systems ''Prefer more to SCORERS AND NOT SKILLS''
IF MESSI PLAYED IN PÉLE'S TIME WITH THESE FACILITIES IN THE DEFENSIVE SYSTEMS AND THESE MARKERS WHO IN THE MAJORITY OF THEM WERE ''WORKERS'' and with those several skillful players IN THE SELECTION that certainly were qualified to wear the 10 also along with Péle;
MESSI WOULD HAVE OVER 1500 GOALS AT AGE 30,
I'd like to see Pele score 1000 goals in the 21st century in MESSI's time, WITH THESE SKILLS LIKE 'BOATENG' AND OTHERS THAT "PHYSICALLY" DOESN'T COMPARE WITH THE SCORERS THAT PÉLE FACED IN HIS TIME,,,, Pelé wouldn't even have 600 goals
Today THE TACTICAL SYSTEMS EVOLVED AND THE MOST OF THE NATIONAL TEAMS IN THE PELE TIME WERE ''' DEAD CHICKENS ''. to the title, comparing with Época de Pele..,
AND A DETAIL, PELÉ WAS AN EXTRA IN THE 1958/62 CUP, THE ONLY CUP HE REALLY PLAYED WAS THE 1970 CUP, AND EVEN THOUGH JAIRZINHO WAS THE TOP SCORER. '''' Today ''''''HAS FEW BAGS OF PUNCHING'''';......
.''MESSI DOESN'T NEED A CUP TO BE THE NEW KING OF FOOTBALL
'''ALIAS, PELE DOESN'T HAVE OLYMPICS, COPA AMERICA AND NEITHER ''''CHAMPIONS'''' And Messi has many more assists and goals from FOULS, and MORE GOALS in CUPS than Pele; “And MESSI is the FIRST in the entire history of World Cups to SCORE Goals in ALL Phases of MATA MATA in World Cups and MESSI is also the FIRST to be chosen in 2 different CUPs as the best player in TWO WORLD CUPs; Pele did not achieve this feat...,;And to finish, '
HOW MANY TIMES PÉLE LEFT THE RESERVE BENCH TO HELP THE TEAM THAT WAS LOSING, SCORED A GOAL, or provided an assist, AND MADE HIS TEAM 'TURN THE SCORE' AND WIN ?? 🇧🇷
kkkkkk The Argument used by those who choose Pele turns against themselves kkkk A SHOT IN THE OWN FOOT...
CHECKMATE-Then
´´MARTA´´ is not the best female player of ALL TIMES -- ´MARTA DID NOT WON THE WORLD CUP´ So German BIRGIT PRINZ- American ABBY WAMBACH- ADA HEGERBERG- MIA HAMM- MEGAN RAPINOE Surpass MARTA in BEST Football Female PLAYERS ´WHY THEY WON CUPS´ lol
SAVE THE KING, 'Lionel MESSI'...
Lets not forget that Di Maria had a hand in every recent tournament they have won. Copa, Finalissimo, WC.
He scored also in olympics gold beijing 2008
Di Maria has also had a fantastic career and won everything there is to win in the game. he is a very underrated player.
great player
Where is higuain
Emi Martinez has the greatest save of all-time to make Messi 🐐...
I was a Maradona fan, but now I consider Messi as the greatest of all time as his achievements speak for itself and also his calm down to earth personality without any controversy ie lifestyle,drugs and he is still going strong 👍👏
even more impressive Maradona did all that was the greatest
i never understand why do people says he is the greatest of all time ?? like brazillian ronaldo never existed? or am i from a parallel universe? the worst part is , when im talking about ronaldo , most people thought im talking about Cristiano Ronaldo
@@tedcleveland8488 it’s a preferation. And stats prove that Messi is the best anyway 😅
@@tedcleveland8488 it would've been a different story if he didn't have injuries.... but sadly his career ended too fast.
I consider him the 2nd best after Messi, Messi isn't only about scoring goals or dribbling , his vision , key passes , playmaking are all the best of all time that's why he is the best of all time in my opinion. The greatest to play the game.
@@AbdullahKhan-dc3vi ronaldo won the fifa world player x3 times
He is the sec top goal scorer of all time in World Cup
Won the World Cup at 1994
1998 received the golden ball
1998 lead Brazil to World Cup final
2002 won the World Cup again
I don’t understand …
And oh btw he scored about 360 goals playing for the various clubs…
Help me out here…why? Because he had a bad haircut?
20 years of elite level football and more to come. What an athlete
The best was Pelé.
@@justdontdie22 no way
@@justdontdie22 Yes, in 2000 years BC
Before the world cup he's already the GOAT
The best there is, was and ever will be... Not just a footballer but one of the best human being that ever existed... Lionel Andres Messi... GOAT...🇦🇷🐐⚽❤️
Best human? That's mad. Relax 😂
Israelites will say Jesus is the best human 🤣🤣
the GOAT wears the Portuguese flag mate you are deluded! he was carried by Argentina FIFA and QATAR OIL money
@@josfur1977 Why so bitter? Ronaldo himself said that he would have loved to be the cleaning lady in Argentina's dressing room, cause thats as close as he'll ever get to the World Cup trophy and Messi the GOAT
Greatest tax dodger
Yes, He is the greatest ever player.
He the best this decade but not the best ever. Football today is a lot softer than before. The greats were harder and had to fight for their time on the ball. Today players are treated like prize race horses.
No
I'm sorry.
I'm the greatest player ever.
I'm DJ ZUG ZUG.
@@bonniesumo5273 softer???
Today's defenders are much more skilled
They have higher level facilities
Elite coaches and traning drills
The era you are talking about many didnt even play football full time lmao
@@bonniesumo5273 this still remains the dumbest argument in football
@@bonniesumo5273trying to be different shusg
Messi is the greatest of all time
Take away the greatest talent in football (which we knew he is), the fact that how humble he is and his teammates adore him it makes us love him even more. Congrats Messi and Argentina!
Mbappe is so far away from Messi, i cannot see him to create opportunities like Messi does
People doesn’t realise that there will be no other player like Messi, never, because he is unique
if you combined paul scholes, maradona and Best i dont think you still have messi
@@sf2explus184 paul scholes 🤣
MESSI is a JOKE lmfaao
@@chinavirus841 your penaldo is the real joke
@@harivarmen is it too late for me?
Yes, He is the greatest footballer of all time. Messi 🐐 No doubt.
Why
@@shsjaj114 Holds more than 50 records plus he won all trophies to win, club level and international
@@Pako_equis how that hv to do with goat
@@1glassMilk yeah old generation people like you prefer maradona and pele , it'll change as time goes by
@@1glassMilk hahahahahaha haha you are probably retarded if for you Messi is just a good player. Go touch grass
Messi with the ball at his feet is pure magic. He would be the greatest even if he retired 10 years ago. Those who regularly watched him play and appreciate football know that. This WC is only the icing on the cake.
He's the greatest footballer ever.
Made football so beautiful to watch.
He's a genius and the GOAT.
Without any doubt he is the best player ever to play the game. And he’s the best by a mile!
Really? One-footed. Can’t head. Never played in more than one competitive league. Only won 1 World Cup. I can think of at least 2 others who, arguably, rank above Messi.
@@titteryenot4524 nearly 800 goals, nearly 400 assists and 7 ballon d’ors 🐐
@@GIBBO4182 Yeah, but La Liga is somewhat of a Mickey Mouse league where it’s always 2 teams who win. Very occasionally 3. Think on, son. 🐭
@@titteryenot4524youre salty tears can fill messi’s trophy cabinets 😂
@@titteryenot4524 really.
Messi and Argentina victory ( India , Australia , Philippines , USA, Nepal, Italy,Bangladesh,Qatar and many more) was celebratwd throughout the world .I can say that Messi is the best of this Generation
In Trinidad and the whole of the Caribbean as well
India cricket?
In this generation yes; each generation had it's own star and this is something we must accept; I am thinking that Kylian Mbappe will be the star for the next generation.
@@moali5099Footballs becoming more and more popular in India, and a star like Messi has many many fans in a country of 1+ billion.
Even in Spain
Messi even before winning the World Cup was already the best football player in the history of the world, after winning the World Cup he is in GODS OLIMPO !!!
Is that even a question?? He has proven to be the greatest not only the best from time to time again. That man has completed and achieved everything in football. What else could you ask for? He has nothing to prove anymore... Will always and forever be the GOAT...
_''What else could you ask for?''_
Maybe more 2 world cup FIFA to get equal figure to Pelé?
@@gomes2151 Messi has his champions league trophies and copa america to show for!
Pele wasnt the best Brazilian player in any of the WC he played and by that logic he cant possibly be a goat. Sure he was influencial but there were others that carried more than him. A great example of this was the 1962WC where he only played 2 games but Brazil still won the WC. In 1970 WC he wasnt even their best assist maker or goal scorer for Brazil, didnt even win best player for tourney. His best WC run by far was his first WC win 1958 where he was Brazil's leading goal scorer but still not their best player xD. I honestly dont understand nor do i see why people call him a goat when he wasnt even the best player in those Brazilian squads. It seems like its just !a case of preferance to me people are just defending their heros and villifying anyone who is better than them.
Ever heard of a guy named Pele ?
@@gomes2151 keep quiet
Simply: yes. Yes, he is. A privilege to be alive when he is playing!
Not even close, I can name 10 players better than Messi. Beckham is better.
@@troll-fx2zc At least the team were all white.
Messi was the greatest before his win. Now he ends the debate.
@@troll-fx2zc name seems legit
I wouldn't even rate Beckham
Leo Messi's Life deserves an Oscar winning documentary I hope Hollywood filmmakers are watching
Lol 😭
They are. You can be sure of that. I'm sure they'll make a feature film too. Except who could play him?
Actually he had a crew filming a documentary focused on him in qatar. We re in for a treat. :)
His story deserved a Nolan Directed Trilogy.
It would be like "Rush" Nikki lauda vs James hunt
He was the greatest before the world cup. Now he is untouchable..
Yes, he's the best in history but people will stop discussing when he retires and we start to realize there's something missing in football 🐐🇦🇷👑
"FIFA ultimately named Pelé the “greatest of all time” in 2012 and the International Olympic Committee named him the “athlete of the century” in 1999." Nuff said ! Disrespectful bandwagon Nerds, please go to bed !
@@fowono2007 2012 and 1997, less than half Messi's career 🤣🤣🤣
This word cup match was the ending episode of football. At least this saga.
I also feel like that
I know right? What a time to be alive.
Now he's all about the side quests! 🤣🤣🤣
Yes Messi is definitely the GOAT, congratulations to him and his team 🇦🇷🎊
😍
BS! After one WC?? Pele can never be beat.
@@tramp2827 Blah blah blah!!!!
@@drago0n10 the man is right Pele is still the GOAT
@@tramp2827bet u didnt even watch pele play and u just say hes the goat because of his world cups and 500 fake goals
Congratulations Argentina 🇦🇷
He was the 🐐 before lifting the WC.
Messi is the G.O.A.T of football (soccer), and he's a just as great of a person. Charitable, kind, compassionate human being and I've never heard a bad thing said about his character.
The cancer in brackets triggered my gag reflex.
@@edwisongogo6326 blame the british
@@alyjam i blame the backwards dims that couldn't get with the modern decency post correction, they aren't crippled, brains exist in the end of the day.
Ever heard of a guy named Pele ?
Short answer: Yes
Long answer: Yes
He was the GOAT before the World Cup
Now he is immortal
Obviously he is the greatest footballer
Parabéns Argentina 🎉ganhou a melhor seleção ❤❤
no ... and he will tell you that he doesnt come even close to the don... no one does
England has island dispute with Argentina therefore bbc decided to make this episode with such a disgusting title
Love Argentina and Messi from 🇵🇰😍😍😍
@@blackkingofworld Ohho look who is covering this news 😂😂.. UK 😂😂
Falkland island vs Malvina island 🏝️
@@blackkingofworld what is wrong with this title?
Gotta admit He is the GOAT. I am a Real Madrid fan but Messi is the best... all around skills and a genius on the field.
Why this goat word relate with Messi ?
@@Patt12
Greatest Of All Time...
Hence G.O.A.T...
@@dosser337 ho o
I use to call him the TGC
Ever heard of a guy named Pele ?
@@fowono2007 of course he is from Brazil we born with soccer in our blood European talk
Pele’ Edson 82 now
Start play at 16
He was already the greatest without the World Cup, this just cements it
What makes him the greatest is the humility with which he has conducted his career. No ego, no narcissism. He's a professional athlete and a genuinely good person! Rare in football these days.
No doubt he is the greatest of greatest player of all time
yes he is the greatest of all time messi, not cristiano
stats wise but greatest would be maradona
@@hassyg4083 no without stats messi is far superior in every single thing that Maradona has
*Pelé enter chat*
@@JuanVasquez-ph8be You never saw Messi do kickups for fun and have whole Stadiums on their feet that's something different in my opinion.
when i first saw him play at the age of 16 i knew he was going to be the greatest. its been a pleasure to live through his era of majestic dominance. Messi 🇦🇷🐐⚽❤ 🏆
it is only your generation my friend... no one who saw diego and messi would ever look at messi a second time
@@michelleper5065 thats just an outrageous comment to make you're totally disregarding messis genius and downplaying his achievements. even maradona acknowledged messis greatness and said he was going to emulate him. i'm 35 and i've seen a lot of great players like R9, Zidane, Ronaldinho etc but Messi's longevity is what sets him apart from everyone else. messi has been doing it for 20 years at the highest level on a consistent basis.
@@bigceazer You're so right. Maradona was on top for only5 yrs. He scored 300 goals,Messi is on 793 and still counting. He'll catch up soon with CR7
@@michelleper5065 Maradona couldn't win a champions league for Napoli even he did nothing in Europe hahahaha 😆 🤣 😂
@Seventron
Not on every aspect...but, on a lot of aspect.
And I really think they are both good.
Messi has done more , I think so too.
In other news,there has been an epidemic of ronaldo fans converting to mbappe,cryuff, Zidane,pele fans because the other comparison is irrelevant now.,many of which don't even know which national side cryuff played for.
Performance of the ages from Mbappe? He strolled along for 75 minutes doing nothing before scoring a great goal and two pens, the first of which he was rather lucky to get in. Meanwhile, Messi was involved defensively and offensively through most of the match while still scoring two and doing a signature pass in the third, at the age of 35. GOAT!
How true
This is what I'm saying! Reminds me of cr7 the way he does absolutely nothing for most the game then scores some pens and a first touch and all of a sudden he's carrying the team 🤣
Love you Messi From Bangladesh 🇦🇷❤️🇧🇩
He was before the World Cup win, but Maradona stans have to shut up now.
The truth is, it was never a debate. He didn't need a world cup in my personal opinion. others may say otherwise but in my personal opinion, he didn't need it. This was just that mic drop moment more than anything. Not taking anything From CR7 because he still is one of the greatest to ever do it but for me, Messi has always been the man.
Now officially he is GOAT.....
Fangirls were talking recklessly now you can hear a pindrop.
Congratulations Argentina love from Bangladesh 🇧🇩🇦🇷💙
What distinguishes Messi from Pele and Maradona, is that Messi has been the best for almost 20 years. Pele never played in "real" leagues (I am sorry but the Brasilian league and MLS in the 1960s and 70s is no La Liga) and Maradona was the best for at most 5 years. You may argue who among these 3 reached the higher highs, but Messi has been the best at what he does for the longest time
That is absolutely true 👌
@Gareth Mathew how many European cups/UCLs has he won again? You know he barely played in one of those world cups as well right?
@Gareth Mathew send it to me coz I know he didn’t perform as much as Messi did by carrying his team
So Messi wins one World Cup and that makes him immortal! He's the best of his generation, of course (for now...I think Mbappe will better that). Pele played at a time when balls were heavier, pitches were awful, no protection from referees and no media to watch other players and learn from, yet he still innovated and became the greatest ambassador the sport could ever dream of. Unfortunately, the biased Eurocentric view would be that Messi is the greatest ever, even though Pele's achievements outweigh Messi's. Even when Ronaldinho (who in my opinion is the most technically and creatively gifted player I have ever seen) was pulling up trees, the Western media would play down Ronaldinho's majesty! It's the "great white hope" fallacy that plagues most Europeans...it's so sad to witness. It's the same where Lewis Hamilton is concerned...people cannot accept that he eclipses Michael Schumacher for these same reasons! Nobody will match Pele's achievements, at least not in my lifetime!
Well, Pelé CREATED the Brazilian football legacy singlehandedly with 3 world cups. Maradona took a Napoli team full of bums and had them triumph over Platini's Juve and Van Basten's (among others) Milan. Did Messi do that?
Not saying Messi's not the goat since that's a favorites debate, but for you to dismiss that and to downplay Maradona and Pelé? That's just dumb.
Messi without a doubt is G O A T and that's a greatest legend in the making as among English premier league enthusiast..hope England can be more effective success such France Argentina or Croatia in long term competitiveness 🔆
Messi is the GOAT.
1003 games, 793 goals(Historical no.2), 350 assist(Historical no.1), 3018 Dibbles (Historical no.1)
2x World Cup Player of tournament (Historical no.1)
11x Man of the Match Worldcup (Historical no.1)
7x Ballon d'Or winners (Historical no.1)
3x European Championship Best Player
2x FIFA Player of tournament (Historical no.1)
6x European Golden Boot (Historical no.1)
1x World Cup Champion
1x Finalissima
1x Copa AmericaChampion
4x UEFA Champions
10x LaLiga Champion
1x Ligue1 Champion
3x UEFA Super Cup Champion
8x Supercopa de España Champion
7x Copa del Rey Champion
3x FIFA Club World Cup Champion
1x Olympic Gold Medal
1x U20 World Cup Champion
1x Laureus World Sports Awards
10x IFFHS Best player of the year
Yes he’s the best to ever play football
Hello how are you doing today?
Yes, Messi is the GOAT and we are so lucky to have seen his career
He could t have played in the 80s
@@IBTU Do you think football in the 80s was better than today?
@@IBTU Stop with that bullshit argument. Players are physically superior today than they were in the 80s. Facilities, technology and tactics are all far superior. Yes, he could have easily played in the 80s. Enough of the bullshit comments
@@johnnycash7020 Messi would be rag dolled in the 80s don’t even go there
@@chinavirus841 😂😂😂😂😂
It was one of the greatest finals ever. It was epic, emotional and well deserved. Contras Argentina and Messi.😩😔🤫
Yes. Only people who don't know about football needed he win the World Cup and now it's done too.
Congratulations Argentina 🇦🇷 totally deserved! As an English person, this is the true meaning of football coming home.
Love England 🏴⚽️
Messi unreal
Is this even a question now? 🤦♂️ 🐐
Foi um Showww eu nunca vi um espetáculo tão lindoooo na final da copa do mundo
Hello how are you doing today...?
3rd Goat has enetered and will be mentioned alongside Maradona, Pele and Messi
LA COPA VOLVIÓ A SUDAMERICA HERMANA BRASILERA
@@Sn-ds7yo ronaldo>>> world
@@Sn-ds7yo just let go of marachona and pene bro💀
YES, he is the best footballer EVER.
Ever heard of a guy named Pele ?
@@fowono2007 yeah who played in an era when football wasn't as developed as it is today.
"FIFA ultimately named Pelé the “greatest of all time” in 2012 and the International Olympic Committee named him the “athlete of the century” in 1999." Nuff said ! Disrespectful bandwagon Nerds, please go to bed !
@@fowono2007 no
@@fowono2007 i bet some other guy was probably named the same thing decades before Pelé, but now nobody remembers him.
He is GOAT 🐐
Even without the world cup trophy Messi is already the best player of all time.
I love Argentina
Yes. He was the best ever even before winning the world cup.
RONALDO IS GOOD , BUT MESSI IS LESS THAN GOOD MEANS REMOVE
'O' FROM "GOOD".
MEANS †★GOD★†
#MESSIGOATFOREVER
Argentina won and Messi is now the undisputed GOAT.
Messi ❤
He`s the best.
Many of the Pundits who deny said, Even if he wins 1 International Trophy They'll admit he's GOAT. When he won COPA , they moved the bar to, He has to Win a WC . Now he's won that also. Still they won't admit it , even if it was their set STANDARD . 😂 They'll always Come up with some other Standard when it comes to MESSI. Though it's tricky to Compare Generational Talent, SUSTAINED GREATNESS & consistency beats everything. There's no arguments in that, Messi has done it For Almost 2 decades now.
dont trust pundits theyre all jokers with some excluded
The GOAT
now it' the virus and the penalties ahahhaahhaahhahahah
Congratulation Argentina football team
Wow! Great interview 👋. Well done. Messi is the 🐐
Although Messi's easily the greatest player I've seen, there will never be widespread agreement on the GOAT issue. But I think in winning this tournament he's joined Pele and Maradona as one of the immortals of the game - a level above simply being an amazing player.
I agree. It's difficult to say but he's the 3rd on the Mt Rushmore of football. Can't wait to meet the 4th
The G.O.A.T. issue will always be a bone of contention. For me, I classify players as Good, then Excellent, then Exceptional. Pele, Maradona, Messi and hundreds of players past and present throughout the world fall in the Exceptional category.
Spitting
He is the best one of all time.
Ever heard of a guy named Pele ?
@@fowono2007 cry more 💀
@@fowono2007 pele did not even won golden ball or best player of fifa awards while messi won it two times in one of his wc he was on bench whole tournament due to injury no score or assist single still won
Debate? Lol people actually didn’t see how much better Messi has always been? Amazing.
Congratulations Argentina, you deserve it from Assam
I love how the Messi debate has gone from Messi v Ronadlo to Pele v Maradona v Messi.
Whatever your opinion, Messi is finally in very deserved company.
Messi will not care. It's for others to worry about that. He got his World Cup which was his dream. His Soul can rest more easy now
for me it's always been maradona vs messi even a prime rhonaldinio for me was better than a prime c. ronaldo.
For me Messi is a JOKE with a fraud career
@@sf2explus184 prime ronaldhino is no way better than prime cr7 lol
@@noone6796 Debatable. But Ronaldo Nazário definitely was better than both.
He's the GOAT
Human not animal
He only smells like a goat 😂🤣😂😅
@@Thetruth1__ Alien
💩
He is the GREATEST OF ALL TIME. PERIOD.
I used to watch football because of the legend Messi🐐👑
Respect! Congratulations, Argentina 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
He's THE BEST EVER, BAR NONE.
Merry Christmas Argentina
⭐⭐⭐🇦🇷
You hace Argentina the best Christmas gift 2022❤💯
Its a memorable match in my life. Messi take the revenge to France in 2018 world cup lose. There is no doubt messi is the goat in football. There is no question the another football superstar is mbappe.
He was the GOAT before this WC, then just imagine it now.. debates are done for a long time.
Forget greatest footballer
Messi is the greatest athlete of all time
Argue with the wall
Argentina 🎉
The best footballer of the last 15-20 years in terms of talent/skill/accolades. The Greatest title will always be transcending across generations based on opinion, bias, preference, favorite player, nationalism. Great players before (Pele, Cruyff, Maradona, Best, Bergkamp, Zidane, R9 etc) Great players up until now (Messi, CR7, Zlatan, Neymar, suarez etc) and Great players for the future (Mbappe, Haaland, Musiala, Bellingham etc) I believe in a team sport with 11 players, it is essential to look at all positions. All areas have had legends and greats. Gk= Buffon, Cesar, Khan, Dida, Casillas, Neur, Cech, Courtouis, Valdez
Defense= Maldini, Nesta, Cannavaro (ballon d'or), puyol, R. Carlos, beckenbauer
Mid= Iniesta, Xavi, Zidane, Pirlo, giggs, Scholes, Lampard, Gerrard, Beckham, Cruyff, Platini
Forwards= Maradona, Pele, Messi, CR7, Drogba, Eto'o, Del Piero, Nistelroy, Henry, Puskas, Van Basten, Kempes, Zlatan
It's a disservice to exclude all the vital positions in the sport when conversing about greatest players. Goals and assists win games, but so does defending and blocking shots.
The current GOATs I have seen is CR7 and Messi, whichever you hold higher in your list is fine, a case can be made for either (Messi in current position as favorite with present WC victory) but the comparison is uniquely unbalanced in the sense that both players exhibited diverse qualities/skill that helped them excel in distinct manners. Messi was molded into a perfect system at Barca with all the offense going to or through him, relying on insane ball control, accurate passing, finesse shooting. CR7 relying on physicality, height, speed, step overs/skills, insane leap for headers, power shooting. Messi's position has changed winger, to attacking midfielder. Which if honest, I prefer his current position allowing him to dictate the game with great passes and shots from cutback passes. CR7 after the 2014 knee injury (tendinosis) lost the explosiveness/pace so began changing little by little to CF/striker/box player. Both deadly at what they do, teams will utilize them in their best positions. It's crazy to revere one and hate/trash the other. I would go as far to say Messi is the greatest attacking midfielder with forward numbers (stats), and CR7 is the greatest forward,finisher. Society is too fixated on forcing a singular title of THE GREATEST. Appreciate the level of greatness. It will be uncertain when we will have two legends such as the ones we got to witness for so many years. LM10 resume complete 💫👏
Messi is clear of CR7 respectfully but I see your other points
@ousmanjallow7866 respect. 🤝 Honestly I think it would cause less arguments, if people mention who they see as the GOAT, and not using insults against other players or undermining what they have achieved. For instance, Messi is well rounded (dribbling, accuracy, freekicks, passing) so as he aged, with no major injuries, he was able to rely on all his other qualities. And CR7 was well rounded, strength, physicality, jumping, heading, speed, dribbling, but after knee condition he's been purely a goalscorer last 5-6 years. Messi's definitely more talented, better footballer at this stage of their careers, but it's impossible to forget CR7 trailing 4-1 in ballon d'ors to level it at 5-5 before Messi's last 2. CR7's influence for Madrid 3 peat in UCL. Honestly it's a shame some team never signed them to play together. Would complemented each other well. 🙌🏻
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He already was...but after winning the world cup I doubt he will ever be topped, what a career!
Honestly, this is not a question to me even before world cup 2022
With or without WC Messi is the greatest 🙌🐐
Love you messi ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Love u Messi love u so much from 🇮🇳
Messi GOAT
Yes he is the GOAT. His consistency over the years is unmatched. As a matter of fact, this 2022 version of Messi is more intelligent and deadlier than 2014 Messi.
He doesn't need pace, he leads by example, he creates, he scores important goals and is more confident in penalties now.
He has won everything under the sun and needs to prove nothing to no one. People say he has never played in PL, BUT he has 4 Champions League of which he played a key role.
And now his international career is complete.
*YES*
Yes messi is definitely the greatest footballer of all time 🐐⚽ 🏆🥇
Probably greatest athlete, full stop.
MESSSSSSIIIIIIIIIIIIII ⚽️🇦🇷❤️🐐
For those who understand football, there was never a debate between Messi and Ronaldo.
The undisputed GOAT
"FIFA ultimately named Pelé the “greatest of all time” in 2012 and the International Olympic Committee named him the “athlete of the century” in 1999." Nuff said ! Disrespectful bandwagon Nerds, please go to bed !
@@fowono2007 lol, after 2012 messi proved he is best not pele
@@ahmet_10 Not really.
Yes, and I don’t want to hear anything about Pele or Maradonna.
Even without world cup it is clearly leonil messi is the GOAT for his achievement in barcelona.!
Argentina.. The king of planet...
Hands down GOAT. Haters will hate, but he is GOAT
I am happy for him🙏
Ever heard of a guy named Pele ?
@@fowono2007 Yes I did but this guy is extra ordinary on my opinion
@@fowono2007 Edson Arantes do Nascimento. I read a book about him in the early 90's. The guy is a legend. But sadly, on pure skill and quality, Pele "pales"in comparison to Messi.😹😹😹
@@hero0710 Pele has only got what ? 3 world cups. Messi has got 1, but he is the goat ? 🤣🤣🤣