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Blood Worms = Hole in the Head Disease
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2017
- Same goes for tubifex worms and black worms.
For the skepticals, just go read a few threads about the subject on simply discus forum.
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I have never ever had issues with bloodworms. which doesn't seem weird to me. Frozen bloodworms from hikari, are enriched with other vitamins, making them nutritional. I feel like when this happens more often than not there is bad water quality for a long time plus the frozen food was left out too long where it actually became spoiled, but the owner puts them to freeze without realizing.
its pretty simple to see if your blood worms are spoiled, they all appear really dark or black in their frozen cubes container. But yet prob still fed to the fish which then causes an outbreak or an issue. Or even better fishkeepers who never change their carbon in months. That easily can cause such a disease through toxins being re-released into the water column.
Hole in head it more directly attributed to a lack of nutrition or enzymes. This usually occurs from only feeding your fish only one type of food. The lack of nutrition creates a deficiency which then the parasite can attach and cause havoc. Ill have everyone know most parasites or bacteria that can cause harm usually already exist in your water column or aquarium. It only becomes an issue when the water quality is bad, or fish are weak.
Extremely underrated comment
I agree with you. I've been in the hobby for about 50 yrs. And only when I was kid, I found them in streams and collected them for my Bettas, without any ill effects. I don't trust the live ones sold in the stores.
Your video made me realize... I fed my fish bloodworms and the next thing I knew they had camallanus worms. Now I know why that happened. Thank you for informing us about the risks of bloodworms. It will save quite a few fish lives in my tanks!
+Connor MacLennan THanks so much for your thrust in me :)
That's incorrect. Camellanus worms do not become visible until 3 months after your fish becomes infected, and even then they would be INSIDE your fish and not visible to you. When they become visible to you your fish has had them for many months.
hole in the head is NOT caused by blood worms lol, its lack of nutrition, while blood worms can be a little hard for certain fish to digest they are not the cause of hole in the head, no offense but you need to look around a little more and do better research.please let me know where your getting this info from, and ill give you my feed back.its like saying you can't feed any frozen food to any fish, hikari frozen foods are around the best if not the best, if your fish aren't getting proper feed and or quarantined correctly OR not taking care of your water, you could have issues like hole in the head and bacterial issues.
+KG cichlids in my experience it’s caused by 3 things, like you said malnutrition, bacterial and hexamita parasite found in feeder fish and all types of freshwater worms.
AquaZone Aquarium Services Mtl Izabella still very uncommon for any parasite to be in frozen blood worms especially the ones you pay good money for because they go through a process to prevent that.
+in KG cichlids you who has cichlids, I don’t want you to do it because I don’t want anything to happen to your fish, but if you feed blood worm freeze or dry, I guarantee you will end up with weird symptômes within a few weeks. In the same week I got three clients with cichlid issues all after the use of blood worms, and it’s a pain in the ass to cure if it’s hexamita. Callamanus a bit easier with levamisole.
+KG cichlids food for thought, if the greatest of dewormers can’t harm the parasite eggs till they hatch, what kind of stérilisation they using that can ? Anything from freshwater can transmit and infect freshwater fish. Just google it you’ll see lots of things come up
AquaZone Aquarium Services Mtl Izabella that’s the problem, you use google lol
San Francisco frozen blood worms killed most of my discus this week.. Expensive lesson. Never again.
Seriously ? So sorry to hear
I've fed mostly live blood worms and flakes to my nano fish. No issues at all they actually got more colorful, active, and healthy when I added the live BW to their daily diet. It seems each case is subjective and their isn't one sigle way for fish to get a disease. Keep water clean and filteted and balanced diet. Best chances to keep them healthy. Like any living thing they can still get ill even if they have good care.
if people eat candy three times a day instead of real food this will happen to them too. only difference is it'll start in the mouth for humans. it'll stunt child growth if it's the main diet early in life also. lol fish need a variety of food. just started to breed my own tubiflex. my fish will die if i feed them 90% tubliflex(or bloodworms) too. even wild fish eat more than "just" worms.
+Chris Church that’s a good point !
Live food for wild discus
Blood worms aren't the issue, I've been feedig my angels bloodworms a few time a week for a decade now without issues and angelfish are one of the fish commonly affected by hexamita. Never had it. Correlation is not causation.
That's good for you. I've had bad experiences with them in the past. I stayed away from the hobby for some years and got back into it again a few years ago. Saw a few comments (like yours) and videos claiming that they are safe. I went against my better mind and bought some live blood worms. Now the fish I fed them to (as a test) are dead or dying.
Hey man were you testing all of your parameters? Bad nitrites, thats how my oscars got hole in head.
O'Malley Malarkins I aggree, my oscars have eaten bloodworms since they were basically fry and the only reason the got HIH is because of bad nitrites.
You're lucky, until one day...
Angels are some hearty friggen fish
The funny part is bloodworms are pretty expensive to get
Switch to frozen mycis shrimp or daphnia, cyclops, red-tailed fairy shrimp (fresh water brine shrimp alternative), seed shrimps, diced clams, diced beef heart. Each food is geared to different sized fish. Also use catappa leaves (Organic Indian Almond Leaves) in your tanks. They have known and proven remarkable curative properties including, anti-Bacterial (disease bacteria), Anti-septic, anti-viral, anti-fungal, anti-microbial, anti-parasitic.
Few months ago I got rid of frozen stuff that lives in freshwater. Using only brine shrimp.
+Acvaristul Lenes there ya go !
It’s all about moderation and diversification.
Hole is the head is caused by feeding the fish with high protein and low vitamin (A, D, C) food!
If you feed your discus with bloodworms only they can cause hole in the head, but not because they are blood worms, it's because they are low in the vitamins and the fish don't get comlete nutrition, they require...
Not an expert,but inexperienced discus keeper.
Theres hole in the head lack of vitamins and hole in the head Hexamita parasites. My client who got hexamita got it right after feeding sparsely blood worms
Very informative thanks
Great video! I recently lost a discus. He never started eating again after he got sick.
+Zacks Tanks Crazy Aquarium Guy Im sorry ! When you buy them make sure the store isn't feeding them any types of worms
I think my fish got sick from blood worms
Oh no that's sucks
Izabella I have been in the hobby for a long time. I won't buy any fish that have been fed with blood worms or tubiflex worms, frozen or freeze dried.
Smart man :)
That is exactly what I did. Trash it. My fishes were fine for months until I decided to feed them frozen blood worm.
Mcguire 337 did you check your nitrites?
I never had anything in my planted aquarium till I got Puffer's which were healthy when I got them, and they mostly live on frozen blood worms. I vaccum ever three days and see some still left on the gravel and won't vaccum up. I think it is these that caused my fish to get cloudy skin. I do partial water changes frequently. My tests were normal, and now this, and it IS from blood worms.
Very interesting topic, I really like your explanation about bloodworm
I feed several types of food along with bloodworms and never had a problem... so don’t worry ppl, just feed other types of food along with bloodworms
I just noticed some sort of fungus in my tank. My Betta first has cloudy skin even over his eyes, now my Pea Puffer's, and the only thing I could think of was blood worms. I have Puffer's that eat blood worms. I am taking those blood worms, thawing them into turmeric, garlic, astaxanthan, spirulina, and kelp. Right now I don't have an alternative. I am growing some snails, but they won't be ready for weeks. I also put some vitamin C powder straight into my tank. Am just started brine shrimp yesterday, so they have those, but they will be pretty tiny. I'm starting another brine shrimp in another container and will try to grow them up a little larger.
I personally think your adding to much stuff to your tank and crashing water quality. Do a big wc and go back to basics. Try feed some tiny frozen shrimps to puffer .
@@AquazoneQC I only put Vitamin C into the water. That was just over an hour ago and the fish look better already. I took the frozen blood worms, because that is all I have right now that I know the puffer's will eat, and I added all that other stuff to the blood worms that I thawed out in a dish. I took that and scooped it back into the little cube tray they came in originally and put that back into the freezer, minus the fresh garlic. Now, when I take out a cube tomorrow, I'll rinse it off before I feed the Puffer's. I figure, some of that good stuff will stick to the worm's and the garlic will kill parasites or bad bacteria. I just started another batch of brine shrimps for them. Some, I'll put in as soon as they hatch, and some I will grow for a while in a separate container, and feed them when they get larger. I actually got the astaxanthan and the spirulina to feed the shrimps, so they are good and healthy when I feed them to the Puffer's.
Cursing doesn’t help
I fed my flowerhorn bloodworms then the next day he had a white spot!! I treated him immediately he’s okay now :)
Adriana Borhan white spot disease is not because of blood worms. It’s because of your low temperature in your aquarium. Flowerhorns need warm waters
Same here white spot like little pimples they die my discus
Hey thanks for the video I think you are correct I had a feeling it's that blood worms 4-5 of my beautiful expansive fish died had hole and parasite my tank really clean and I take care of it well but wonder why my fish died.
I stop feeding them blood worm for month now and sinch then Its been good. Good job for thinking like me.
I have some goldfish in a different tank. Will the hole in the head affect them if I feed them the blood worms?
I has a male guppy with this. All other fish in the tank are fine. I've fed some freeze dried blood worms on occasion,
Bloodworms shouldn’t be a staple food bc they are low in nutrients
What a crazy subject. I know people one both sides of this issue. I will admit Gabe pasada at jack whatley discus agrees with you 100 percent. It is odd how so many people use bloodworms without problems though. I was always more concerned with the live black worms myself. I wasn't with you when you made this video so this is the first I've seen of your own food. Do you still do this because id like to support you. It looked like a great food. Thanks
Tubifex and black Worms also have potential for parasites
Look in my diy playlist the fish food recipe is there :)
@@AquazoneQC yeah I never liked tubifex.. oh ok thx
And yes fish will gorge themselves and eat the same thing everyday if thats all they have to eat. Crustesans have vitamins from their exoskeleyon. Worms are only fat and protein, very good for fish
Good to know thank you for the tip. I enjoy your videos 😁
Wow thank you so much for that tip , no more blood worms...
+Frontosa Lover thanks for listening !
Svaki tvoj video mi se svidja.Ti si toliko slatka ,pozitivna 🙌
+Milan Hadžić hahahaha Thanks ! I understand a little bit what you say. Is this polish ?
AquaZone Aquarium Services Mtl Izabella you're beautiful❤
Every time I feed bloodworms (cleaned) I always get a fungus outbreak
Hi, I'm not sure if you're going to see this but I wanted to determine whether or not my betta fish has hole in the head disease. So I just noticed she has pits on her head that aren't too big looking but they vary in size so I immediately thought she had hole in the head because of the pits and her momentary lethargy. At first I think she was just constipated because of how lethargic she was and then I noticed the pits in her head. I bought medicine right away but then I noticed she stopped being lethargic but the pits are still there. She is as energetic as ever but because of the pits, I have no idea whether or not she has hole in the head. If any of you can help me determine whether or not she has hole in the head I would be very thankful.
It's possible depending which medicine u gave. Never force a sick Betta to eat, she will end up with dropsy
@@AquazoneQC Oh, thank you for the advice. I gave her fish metronidazole in her water and some through her food.
I knew it was the fuckin blood worms
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please do more discus content x
+Isometric Aquariums I shall !
Oh my Freekin God!
Yep I'll 100% agree to this mine has not been the same since I fed him the worms and I only fed him it once and it's been over a year and I'm still trying to get it sorted he has funny white dots in the holes that pop out when I treat with broad spectrum fucken total nightmare he still looks good but and eats like a boss but I treat often
If you feel fish is week and can't tolerate meds. Try dipping dry cubes of brine shrimp in garlic for a few minutes till they soak up and then feed. I have one still working on him since November. Very slow recovery. Be patient
@@AquazoneQC ah Tru I'll give it a go!. I just moved him into a bigger tank and I just manage it with what I have but now that i know what the full deal is I'm going to get proper meds and fix it thanks for the tip but 👌👍
I have a container of freeze dried blood worms that I never opened.^-^;;;;
Mainly because it had a warning for severe allergies that I didn't notice until I got home and I suffer allergies from dust and everything under the sun and some are severe. Was very scared to open it anyway.XD
So I was planning to throw it out.
So would you suggest shrimp instead?
Yes shrimp 🦐
too late for me, i only stoped blood worms last summer, all of my guppies gone and my angel fishes are in way to eaven, i'm trying now eSHa Hexamita but i think it's to late now. My problem is camallanus worms.
Callamanus are very hard to eradicate and usually fish dies with the dead worm inside
@@AquazoneQC ...and, in fact, esha hexamita is not the correct solution, i'm going to change to eSHa NDX ( levamisole HCL )
Hi :) I recently got a juvenile Electric Blue Jack Dempsey that ONLY eats frozen food and doesn't accept pellets D: What can I do? I'm so afraid of it getting any parasites cos I heard they are highly prone to. Thanks for the help:)
okay can go check on my channel I put up a frozen fish food recipe:) it’s best thing you can feed any fish
Try earthworms. My severums and oscar love them...good natural live food.
You said something in this video that caught me attention with the fish eating and eating and not gaining weight. I have 1 Labidochromis that I've had since he was young and he didn't have a sunk belly before, he now does. He is the only one out of 16 in my tank that does. He has NO other symptoms and eats like crazy. Do u think I should be using Metro in this tank and assume he has a parasite or infection??? Or do u have any other advice?
If he still eats your are luckyyyyyy ! Soak his food for a week in metro and dewormer. Then stop and 3 weeks later again . Might as well do all your tank in case some have it but it doesn’t show yet
Also I like to do a potassium permanganate treatment of the tank 30 min then neutralize with peroxide whilst filters off, to decrease bacterial and parasitic load
Is the potassium treatment a regular thing you do periodically? Not just to treat sick fish but as a preventative sort of? Also is there any dewormer you like more than others? I have PraziPro on hand.
Thank you for getting back with me by the way. 😃
Yes I use it monthly or so . For dewormer prazi is okay but orally I use the Super dewormer from eBay. But also make homemade food recipe with deworming ingredients, view my fish health playlist for recipe and Facebook page aquazoneqc
can i treat my fish now before i even notice any symptoms regard manny
Justin Paraskevas why would you treat for a problem you don’t have?
I have a betta fish that is really sick. Looking for advice or answers of what he could have. i made a video recently of how he is doing and he is bleeding. Not sure if its Hole in Head disease that contaminated his right eye. Please I'm a worried Betta mother.
Link me the video
First of all, you need to do a heavy water change. Sometimes the pope-eye condition is nothing but a sign of poor water quality especially in cases which only one eye is swollen or there are more than one fish affected.
Adding salt into the water provides numerous benefits including reducing stress and prevention of some secondary infections during the treatment period.
Using broad spectrum antibiotics especially those that are effective on eye infections is the best cure for this condition. Neomycin, Kanamycin, and Erythromycin are just some of the best examples. And add 1tsp of Epsom salt per gallon.
Btw .. he will most certainly loose the eye. You need to hurry up and buy his chances of survival are very slim
"Press X to doubt"... *SMASHES that X button*
we love you two :) an you aint no underdog ive watched your vids then i see some populer youtubes do the same vids. your doing great m8 :)
+Dexter Macmillan thank you :)
I've recommended the exact same thing on my channel, NO BLOOD WORMS!
Some bloodworms thrive in filtration systems. Would that still cause hexamita?
Rex meBro any freshwater water invert can give parasites to freshwater fish or animal. But not salt water stuff like brine shrimp.
AquaZone Aquarium Services Mtl Izabella thanks for the heads-up. Last question for now hehe are pumice stones good as biological media?
+Rex meBro any porous stone is good but if it alters the ph choose the appropriate fish for that range
AquaZone Aquarium Services Mtl Izabella thank you sooooooooooo much 😊
Very informational and I might say your very beautiful thank you
Cute girl, bad accent, and even worse information. Don't listen to her advice (based on her experience) whatsoever. Not only does she need to do more research on HITH disease, but she clearly needs to do much more research on caring for her tank mates. It is no wonder your 'clients' are having so many complications, just look at your claim regarding an industry staple. Good luck in the future; truly hope you actually do some research before creating another "how-to" video.
I'm in MTL do you also sell and deliver fish?
+new tank I got a few breeding colonies. Depends what fish but we mostly do aquarium Services.
I agree with. I fed my fish fd blood worms then my fish died.
I hope your fish will always be healthy now. Please check out my latest videos about making home make fish food
Thanks a lot for sharing this. I was always vary of feeding bloodworms to my flowerhorns but now I'm 100% sure. Thanks a ton. N by d way u look really pretty
+Savio Rods hehe thx ! Happy fish keeping !
Fake news
I was thinking about getting some frozen bloodworms for my bettas, but now I won't. Thanks for the video!
+You're Soggy hehe my pleasure !
This is so misinformed.
I feed my gold fish hot Cheetos no problems
J.K
I boiled the blooodworm before adding😆
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read some more and buy a microscope .
also if you make a video ,....for gods sake pronounce the names of things right .
piss off
Nope
ua-cam.com/video/mPUN-zNP7oY/v-deo.html Here is the link to my video. He used to be a royal blue fish and just became very pale, wouldn't eat and would get stressed out n bleed through his infected eye.
Look at previous comments I did answer you
yeah i just recently saw the comments. Thanks tho. Do you think that maybe it could of been also the lack of oxygen? Thats what my mom n boyfriend said. But for sure the water quality. But what about the hole in head. How could of that happen?
Infection from bad water. Bettas don’t need air they breathe same as you and I
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I thought hole in the head was from feeding live
Please stop cursing in your videos
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Your gorgeous
Wow, terrible advice. Bloodworms didnt give your low quality discus HITH... sorry.
I've been feeding my bettas blood worms since I got them and nothing has happened to them they're perfectly fine and normal and I had these bettas for a long time now.