Great points and pretty well explained, but I wished they had asked some more difficult questions, like for example regarding the whole talk about maximizing protein intake what about the people in the Blue Zones (areas with the highest concentration of people over 100 years old) all around the world that don't eat a lot of meat? What they have in common is that their diet is around 80% plant based. Given this fact how can maximizing protein intake increase longevity/be healthy?
Over a decade ago, I read that nuts, tuna, and greens give you the nutrients your brain needs to produce happy chemicals. My depression responded negatively to medication therapy. I started eating salads every other day, tuna for lunch most days, and subbed most of my junk food with nuts and berries trail mix. Depression symptoms improved significantly. I read that processed food contributes to inflammation, which I have in spades, so I started cooking from scratch as much as possible. Inflammatory progression significantly slowed. I became diabetic, so I subbed green beans for noodles and rice, and combined with medication I've lost over 50 pounds and reversed fatty liver disease and sleep apnea, even though my thyroid is inert. My quality of life has definitely improved by eating for nutrition more than for pleasure. I don't ignore emotional needs, holiday rituals, comfort foods, etc., But by making my default foods nutritionally dense, I am able to mitigate many of my accumulated health problems. This year I've added weekly salmon and more variety of veg and micronutrients, such as blue cheese on airfried sweet potato fries, and mushrooms in my marinara. My brain function is improving, and I managed to overdose on vitamin d, which a prescription level consumption could not get me into an acceptable range years ago. So, I've reversed a vitamin deficiency. I love trying new food now too see what I can fix next. Excellent discussion, fellas. By the way, I'm a Gen X'er who started developing severe health issues in my twenties. Be well.
@@Temporary-nd5tb Humans are evolved from hunters and gatherers. It only makes sense that their diet is good for us, too. There is a Doctor who has MS and did a TED talk about how she helped cure her symptoms by using the hunter/gatherer diet.
Excellent. I started learning about Food As Medicine from Hindu's & Ayurveda, had a hippie Auntie who went to India, always got to know the Hindi people around me, ect... It absolutely works! A combo of Turmeric/Curcumin/Blk Pepper Oil is more effective for overall inflammation than anything I'v ever tried, even medication. I'v got practically everyone in my family on it. And a really good pro/prebiotic a few times a week will help keep the immune system strong.
I can personally attest to how diet can affect mental health. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder about 15 years ago, and had been on the same medication all that time. Last year, I changed my diet completely, cutting out all ultra-processed foods, focusing on eating more raw fruits and vegetables, healthy oils, beans, fish, and lean meat twice a week. Within 10 months, my energy has improved, I've lost nearly 24 kilograms, and the most amazing thing is that my mood swings, which I was still able to feel even with the medication, had been suppressed, and aren't nearly as extreme as they used to be. In fact, I have not felt hypomanic this summer at all yet, which is still incredible to me. Great show this week. I really appreciate your variety of guests and topics.
Yeah lol and unlike most other topics Neil is neither the best example nor the most knowledgeable haha so good one to sit out for him 😂 love you tho Neil
I agree..✔...but while Neil allowed his quests talk....Co-host > Chuck interrupted too much, trying to be funny. I clicked on this Video because I wanted to learn more about > Dementia & Diet > What impacts your brain health. > Time was wasted making a few too many 'Jokes.' > That time could have used to relay more important information. > Sometimes.....too many quests > are just that....Too many.
The unfortunate side effect of Neil, Chuck and Gary not knowing the subject matter was that the guest got away with presenting misleading information, and Chuck felt like he had to joke twice as much to stay a part of the conversation.
The main guiding principle of Max's advice: reduce inflammation in the body through proper food and lifestyle choices. It's inflammation that's harming the brain, he said. In case anyone missed that or needed the reminder. Thanks, guys.
My family loves your podcast and this one hit home for my 11 year old son who loves both quantum physics, astrophysics and cooking. Thank you Max for sharing all. You set my brilliant son on another path that will benefit him and the rest of the family greatly.
Since my teens I had depression and anxiety. I'm now 76. A few years ago I realized that my anxiety was actually dehydration and could be relieved by a slug of water. A few months later I discovered that my depression was actually "hanger." I also discovered that eating carbs was like eating Chinese food is alleged to be: I would be hungry again soon. So I eat real cheese on sourdough or eggs or, recently, grass fed meat.
I had a head injury several years ago when I lived in Cleveland. Concerned about my brain health, I started looking for a way to enhance that. Knowing ZERO about functional medicine, I found “brain health” as one of the concerns covered by the Center for Functional Medicine at Cleveland Clinic. I did not know until I got to my first appt that it was about 80 percent about diet. They gave me a way of eating that was super-easy to follow. Avoid processed foods. Greatly reduce sugar consumption (stop eating dessert every damned day). Greatly reduce starches to about 1/2 a cup a day. Stop eating bread. Eat lots of greens and vegetables. INCREASE healthy fats. Protein rich. I weighed 203 at the time. Pre-diabetic. GERD. Nine months later, and to this day, I weigh 135. Normal glucose. My GERD went away. Sleeping better. I mean. People who witnessed the change was asking, “how did you do that?” And it is EASY.
very much my story eight yrs ago? Age 80 at time….stop eating sugars,breads, starches, bad oils etc. same as you. Read an article re hidden additives and preservative hidden in our food that are poisoning us was an eye opener and a possible resolution to my own health issues. One day … emptied hse of 99% pre packaged foods. Put myself on whole foods, mostly plant based and found I had adopted an intermittent fasting plan….ate two meals a day, dropped fifty lbs. all med with exception of thyroid med. Now…89 and walking 2.5-3.5 m in morning. Hv no problems with foods now. Think i’d be dead without my UA-cam docs!🥳
Yes, you’re close to eating a Paleo diet when you remove all the processed foods, avoid sugars, avoid the breads the whites and concentrate on eating fresh fruits, vegetables, fish, poultry, and meats
Goodness people are so ADDICTED to sugar! But it really only takes 2-3wks to get past the addiction. That's a mole-hill not a mountain in the scheme of things.
Remember that Max Lugavere has a background in film and psychology - not medicine or nutrition. He is a "wellness influencer." It's important to point out that interaction with Max's website or work will instantly result in your being bombarded with ads for supplements, gadgets, treatments, and more books. He has celebrated endorsements from Dr. Oz and Mark Hyman - which may "wow" the common public but I would hope that the StarTalk audience would know differently.
It is also important to remember that during this podcast, while Max’s books were referenced as part of his work, this was not an infomercial for his “products”. The information is what is important during this engagement, not his potential for making money after the fact. If that were the case then everyone who stands to make money off of others should not be trusted. He does not claim to be a medical professional, he is simply providing evidence to support an approach to eating that includes a well balanced, minimally processed diet. What, if anything, is wrong with that? There were no plugs for supplements, or diet plans, or exercise equipment. Just information.
@@jakobmorningstar bs dude, Neil let another grifter on and you're all getting grifted by him. Thanks @Srfingfreak I was watching this and heard the guy run over Neils first question. Pulled up wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Lugavere and boom the easiest con to spot. It's incredible how bad star talk has gotten lately. I've gotten literal gambling ads read by chuck and now they just bring on these wellness idiots. This should be taken as insult to Star Talks fan base. I thought this show was about science but then they bring these complete fakes on. I liked Neil this is so sad now I've gotta dig on everyone they have on the show :(
The bottom line is the information he is putting forth is truth and real research that is more or less common sense. Hunter gatherers are healthier and eating an American diet is going to lead to illness, that are avoidable with a healthier diet.
That's an unfortunate consequence of the new way of internet life. More people than ever are trying to sell you something. btw -- Max is brilliant regardless of what is his background.
Probably one of if not the best episodes - its tangible and pretty much guaranteed that every viewer knows someone affected by dementia even if by a few degrees of separation
I like the implications of this episode, which is that you don't need to be academically trained to be knowledgeable and ask the right questions and hunt for the answers.
Thank You for your comment and the reminder that curiosity and intelligence does not always travel hand in hand with academic training. FYI. I'am the creative producer of this particular podcast as well as co host.😊
I loved this episode. Max was great, and he needs to come back for a second edition. My only regret is that he gave a partial list of beneficial foods but was cut off. I would like to hear what other foods he has found were useful, and why.
I thought this was great! I'm currently doing my PhD in the gut-brain axis; I've met Felice Jacka from the food and mood center and she is amazing. Truly a pioneer in the space of nutritional psychiatry, especially as it pertains to the microbiome. Lots of research emerging to suggest the Alzheimer's is a mitochondrial and metabolic disease more than anything, "type 3 diabetes" is how some researchers refer to it now.
I have a genetic marker for a higher-than-average likelihood of developing early-onset Alzheimer's and it worries me every day bc I have brain fog, memory problems, and recently struggle with my speech and remembering--let alone using--appropriate words. 😔 I appreciate this video so much, and its emphasis on this being a problem for Millenials and "young" people instead of just the elderly. We really do have to be conscientious of this and proactive.
There honestly aren't enough hours in the day to devote to this subject. I've read dozens of research papers from medical journalists over the years devoted to the relationship between processed goods and health and it's absolutely ASTOUNDING what our food is doing to us. Almost any malady that isn't genetic can be traced back to the type of diet that was consumed and it almost always relates to products that were promoted as being "heart healthy" 20 to 30 years ago. For instance: they told us Crisco was good for us when it was invented and that stuff is made from crystallized cottonseed oil (cris - crystallized / co - cotton). I mean, we may as well be frying our food in paint thinner.
Yeah, 90% of the food sold in grocery stores in the US is pure garbage and should be illegal. Our processed foods are killing us (not to mention all the plastic they are packaged in)!
Anything that is not natural the body doesn’t recognize nor can it properly assimilate. We have adulterated the food so much it can’t even be seen as actual food. The most natural diet for a human aka a herbivore is an unrefined, unprocessed raw plant based diet. Eating anything else with the exception of mushrooms will eventually lead your body to disease and premature death
This is an amazing episode!! We couldn't agree more - nutrition is wildly impactful for mental health, and we are stoked to see it becoming a more mainstream topic. Thanks for taking the time to break down some of these complex concepts!!
I don’t know if anyone has ever looked into this, but most of the people I know who has gotten dementia, have been the nicest people. Not just normal nice, I’m talking extremely nice people.
Again an amazing guest/expert in a field. This show never gets stale. It is rare to see Neil being this much silent XD, but Max had convincing facts as answers. Good eye opener for diet cult following.
Fantastic episode guys. Good work! These types of topics are what we all need. You can’t live without eating. We all need this info, getting pros who know more than all of the general public to tell us without a (message) just honest facts is beneficial to every single human being.
this is why I'm drastically changing my diet now at 34. cut out all processed foods, only eating meat eggs and some plant foods, a little dairy and coffee sparingly. cutting out grains has helped my gut so much, i have energy and I'm finally losing weight that needs to be lost.
@clemfandango6897 - Dairy products are our biggest source of calcium. If you cut back on it, you must substitute other calcium-rich foods. For more enthralling nutrition information, see the PBS series, "Food - Delicious Science". It will help you a lot and is fun to watch.
Please Neil and Chuck, we need this startalk in Spanish ! This is an important topic to share. My wife works developing vaccine using lactobacillus bacteria as a vehicle for antibodies, and she find more and more in the scientific community about the relationship between gut microbiota, or the health of these bacterias and the mood and deceases. But there is not much of this important info to everyone. We discovered that we don't need too much money to eat Healthy and take care of your brain and mood
Nice though unusual to see an astrophysicist moving into this field, its a very big area, and it seems for me after some years researching this topic, to be critical to understand it on a cellular level, to end up with having the knowledge to make your own adjustments. I do follow most of your great explainers and videos, really appreciate them all. I love the combination of professionalism and brilliant easy understandable humor, which always get me to laugh (that's healthy too):-) So a big thank you for what you are doing from here. (Denmark).
From my personal research his emphasis on the inclusion of animal products in diet being so critical is simply at odds with large bodies of research. There may be some molecules that are less common in plants, but there are far more molecules found in plants not found in animal products and often times the plants are required to offset the many negative affects of meats.
These videos are wonderful and we need them for these difficult times, but there are so many millions of Hispanics like me in the United States who would like to see them subtitled in Spanish...Thank you for existing...❤
Chucks the only one who could entertain the concepts being explained. Neil is being quiet because alot of it is unscientific jargon but he's paying a huge amount to sponsor his book on the channel.
Great content, just to add, there is a misconception whole food is more expensive. When you eat whole foods the body tends to consume the appropriate volume, which is far less than junk foods. In my experience switch from junk to whole, food bill monthly is less😊
Chuck makes this show great. The others are interesting, educational, thought provoking and entertaining. But Chuck pulls it all together with wit and wisdom. 😂😅🤣
Thank you so much for putting out all of this information. I love listening to your smart minds! I have been using intermittent fasting and a diet that is real food and it has changed my life. I still eat what I consider garbage every now and again but you are right there is no one diet that’s perfect for everyone.
I’ve been following Max since his first Ted Talk and am very impressed with his growth and ever expanding expertise. Thank you StarTalk for sharing this segment.
As a cashier in a non food dessert chain, the chasing potato chips idea is hysterical but reminded me of what we already know. In a standard grocery store, you have to DIG for your nutrition. The milk eggs and meat are always in the back. Potato chips are in aisle 1.
Great podcast, that makes a fantastic argument for good, old common sense! Unfortunately, common sense doesn't seem to be all that common anymore. I will soon be 71 years old. Growing up my Mom feed me and my siblings the standard "balanced diet" that she was taught back in high school in the 1930's! We had an animal based protein (beef, pork, chicken or fish), a starch (potatoes, rice or some other), a vegetable and a salad for roughage and digestion. We all grew up healthy and strong with no weight issues. Even today I am 5'9" tall, weigh 155lbs., and I feel great! My doctor tells me to keep doing whatever it is I'm doing. I was also happy to hear the guest say he had no problem with frying with lard. i switched to lard quite a few years ago after reading that pork fat is a fat the the human body is designed to actually be able to digest!
Not all of us who have gone Vegan did so for dietary purposes. Many, if not most, did so for ethical reasons. Also, where did fish get omega 3 from? Algae? Seaweed? I’m good with that.
Thank you, yes. That is what makes it a vegan diet and not just a plant based diet. I also believe that living consistently with one's ethical values is very good for mental health.
I did so for both. I would love to have a friendly debate with him, because all the reasons he gave for his position are VERY flimsy and ignore a lot of other circumstances surrounding animal products aside from their natural constituent nutrients. He seems reasonable enough that I might actually be able to sway him a bit.
nutrition is arguably one of the most important factors determining our health. It is astounding how few "smart" people are very knowledgeable about it. I personally think it's one of the largest travesties of our society that there isn't more focus put on it, especially by those in medical professions. grateful for star talk having to share this. I am hopeful that we as a society, especially in the United States, adopt healthier habits.
DHA and EPA fats are actually produced primarily by marine algae (seaweed and diatoms), and are subsequently eaten and bioaccumulated by fish. There are algae supplements that could be used to gain these compounds from a vegetarian source.
great to hear! there was a lot of subtle anti-vegan sentiment from the other speakers ("that's why we have canines"?? - even though MOST of our teeth are better suited for grinding fruit/veg/grains) so i'm glad to hear that there are bioavailable sources of DHA & EPA for non meat eaters
Yeah. There is ongoing debate in the plant based community about whether we should supplement it or not. Some docs do some don’t. But in no way do we need to eat fish nor does or prove that we are carnivores. Even omnivores should be using algae and not fish oil if they are going to supplement.
Alzheimer Disease is very different than dementia. My husband had a head injury, leading to dementia, he was physically strong with anger, anxiety, memory loss, confusion and began assaulting us. Tragic.
@AnnoyingNewsletters - Exercise also helps a lot even though in the grip of depression, you do not want to move. Remember that depression is a brain condition of the neurotransmitters, FREQUENTLY inherited. Meds help correct that. You cannot eat lots of serotonin to help your brain because, as Dr Tyson pointed out, eating a nutrient does not mean that your body will use it where you want it to go. There is something called the "blood-brain barrier" that prevents lots of things from entering the brain, dietary serotonin being one of those things.
Timely! My mom (93) is suffering from h pylori right now and aside from the extremely uncomfortable physical symptoms, the effect on her mind has been profound. She is recovering, albeit slowly, and as she does I can see her thinking clear up along with it.
I’m sorry for you, but at some point it is normal to simply die and I think sadly we do have a very unhealthy relation with death. Maybe because I nearly die many times because of a chronic issue when I was young. But at that age you should focus on making the last moment of your mother as painless as possible and let her leave surround by people that she loves.
Say this so much...Great guest! So many brilliant minds in science, and we are very lucky, but also so many great and positively inspired human beings! Truly the best of us.
In other words,..."Nothing in biology (including human health) makes sense without evolution". Many scientists are doing great things in explaining this. I highly recommend, e.g., the book, "Exercised: how something we never evolved to do is healthy and rewarding", by Dr. Daniel Leiberman. Another good book is "The Obesity Code", by Dr. Jason Fung. Both of these books go into depth on many of the points discussed by Max Lugavere. :)
Hearing Chuck Nice suggest we should hunt our groceries "Chase your food!' was a hilarious moment! When you think about it there's a kernel of wisdom in that humor, Thanks for the laughs Chuck!
The worst snack foods are usually right next to checkout, or in aisles nearest checkout, no effort to find. Healthy stuff usually way back along edges of store. Having junk food moving through the store like a mobile sushi boat - I like that idea! though probably dangerous.
I had my DNA analyzed and I found out I have both genes for late onset Alzheimer’s. Yay me 😊 I am almost 71 years old. I don’t feel old between my ears , but my memory and my body do. I would Love to not forget who I am anytime now.
so sorry to hear that! I turned 40 last December and am considering that same test as gene replacement therapies will probably become more accessible in the coming years. as you probably know, being homozygous for APOE4 doesn’t guarantee you’ll get the disease, but if you feel your memory is worse compared to your friends’ who are around your age, maybe talk to a neurologist. there are scans that can look for beta amyloid, an Alzheimer’s marker, a few new medications that appear to slow cognitive decline by neutralizing amyloid plaques, and research trials you could potentially join. or just sit tight, try not to fret about it, and enjoy life. (not a thing i’m personally capable of, but sound advice, i’ve been assured.) good luck!
Don't stop reading n taking new information, also don't live on solitary, get active socially (easiest is to play video games with tons of social interaction, like a mmorpg)
When I think about food being reduced to all of its separate components I am then struck by the fact that these components themselves may react to one another through digestion and the consumption of multiple items…and then you still have to factor genetic and environmental differences between individuals. So even if you do a clinical trial showing brain benefits for a particular food you will never know for certain how that result will play out in the real world. The best you can do is look at trends and make generalizations. I agree wholeheartedly that a whole foods diet with plenty of physical activity is “in general” the best way to go on average for the average generally healthy adult. Beyond that it gets a bit tricky. Blue zones are an interesting phenomenon and seem to agree with the whole foods Mediterranean diet for health and longevity.
A good expert to have is Dr. Lisa Mosconi, neuroscientist, who has researched and written about brain health, especially related to the under-researched area of women's health. A mostly plant-based, mediterranean type diet is encouraged. Plus whenever we recommend eating certain animals or their eggs or milk, we also need to consider their own rights to life and liberty (not to be bred, kept, farmed, and exploited), and the need to improve wildlife conservation/biodiversity, reduce ocean decimation, reduce the climate crisis, plus reduce zoonotic disease risks from mass production of animals and depletion of forests/habitats to grow feedcrops or creature grazing for farmed animals. Basically, we need to consider rights, justice, and ecology not just human nutrition in isolation.
This was such an amazing episode. I've recently subscribed to this channel & I'm learning so much while cracking up with laughter at certain times (thanks Chuck!). But on a serious note, this is such an important issue. I used to work in the aged care sector & brain degenerative diseases are among the cruellest blights on humankind. I was able to get a birds eye view I guess you could say, where I not only witnessed the person decline but also the emotional & mental stress that the family who cared for them went through. We really need to get a better handle on these issues & as you mentioned, prevention is better than cure. Thank you again guys for knocking it out of the park as usual, this really was an incredibly important topic.
Agreed but I always knew that no one in the world is actually allowed to experiment on the brain while a person is alive , they can work on cadavers, use MRI, CAT scans, meds, etc but no experiments on the brain I wonder if ,since we can sign up to do in a geopolitical proxy war y not sign up for brain experiments
I appreciate the clearly and carefully stated arguments for the role of food in brain health and disease. Will need to go to other sources for the documentation, but a helpful discussion.
Great podcast. My perspective: You need to be healthy to eat a healthy diet. Use the dieting tools (keto, imf..) to get there. Consider bioavailability over ideology, antinutrients, fermented, non processed foods when figuring out what works for you and when to eat. Ultra high processed shifts the cost from food to healthcare.
Your discussion sort of supported a belief I've had. My mother had dementia (born 1917) in her 80s. Of course, I have concern about also developing it, but I'm thinking that my life is/has been completely different than hers (and I don't have the cholesterol issue she had) - food, exercise, life style, etc. So! I'm hoping that will help save me from the disease! Thanks for the discussion!
Wow finally an important topic that needs to be discussed.. im looking forward to this video... My dear loving Grandpa just passed away 7 months ago and he was diagnosed with dementia a year and a half before his passing which sparked something in me to get to the bottom of this terrible brain disease. It is so disheartening to see how debilitating this disease is on the elderly community living in nursing homes with dietitians working in these kitchen facilities whom are basically responsible for like slowly killing off our loved ones by unknowingly feeding them the wrong foods
I was a dietary aid in many nursing homes n many of us did not just read no sodium etc we had homework on all the difference diets they needed n y ik I was only a maths degree from university but I doesn't mean I took those weak chem n bio classes the psychologist ppl took , I was side by side with all the engineers in chem labs n Ochem n biology n blah blah right
My mom was 56 and quickly developed dementia while I was preparing to leave for college. No family history at all, but she had awful sleep hygiene, very unhealthy diet, didn’t exercise, chronic high blood pressure, and had poorly treated Bipolar I. She was also the primary caretaker for my grandfather, who was in palliative care by that time. Between May and my going to college the next spring, (during which my grandfather died), the breakdown was profound. After that initial loss in self-care function, she lasted eight more years, with the last few being in a near vegetative state. I’m not sure that any one or all of those things caused it, but like the guest it has really sparked my drive to maximize behaviors in myself and family to stave off the ravages of this disease, because my mother deserved a better ending and i don’t want any of us to experience the same.
I am trained as a physicist, working in the field of clinical trails as a software engineer. I have always troubles with these discussions where common sense, even though based on some best effort studies, is the only measure of truth. In my opinion, medical science is in many aspects still in a pre Francis Bacon mode. I could fell Neil having some issues with that, however, I guess he is just a perfect gentleman…. Which is btw a good thing.
Points to consider, uncomfortable though they may be: 1. From a strictly evolutionary point of view, once your children have reached maturity (say, you're 40-45 years old), genetic health factors that appear only at old age are irrelevant. How healthy we are at 70 has never had anything to do with genetic success. Which brings us to: 2. Telomeres (look it up) and cancer. You run out of telomeres, your chances of cancer go up. This is another age-related factor/ 3. Processed foods are part of what make 8 billion humans possible. No processed foods mean some people will face famine, and those people will be brown-skinned equatorial people. 4. "Conventional" (not organic) and GMO food production also are a part of what makes 8 billion people possible. All-organic means that that some people will face... you get the idea. 5. 3 and 4 above mean that eliminating "conventional"/GMO/processed foods will cause famine and death along well-defined racial, geographic and economic class-based lines. 6. Chronic overfishing has make one of the healthiest food choices (seafood) a luxury, where it used to be a mainstream staple. Modern healthy diets are the realm of the rich and the white. Whether intended or not, that's the way it is working out. Replies of accusations of classism or racism can F right off. I'm talking current reality, not advocacy of how we got this way.
There are programs through Food Link and EBT (federally funded) that have food trucks filled with fresh foods, milk, eggs, raw honey, etc. The trucks go to apartment complexes and other places where poor people live. I love the fresh food, the convenience (easy to carry), and the low prices. So there are programs around the country that bridge that gap.
after giving up refined sugar for some years, i had a one-off jam scone and experienced suicidal depression ~ never again! one thing to consider, everybody's body is different. ps: totally agree with guest regarding not isolating ("refining") vitamins; many are not digested well like that.
I would say that not being able to eat even a small amount of refined sugar without suicidal depression is extremely abnormal. I’d be concerned about why that happened beyond “sugar bad”
My grandparents both started dementia in their 60s. I assure you they ate NO processed foods except maybe pasta. They lived in a house with coal heat in their younger days. No one talks air pollution and grandpa made tires a known toxic substance. The leading cause of cardiovasular issues is smoking. Well air pollution if bad can be like smoking. 🇨🇦
Around 27 minutes in, on the topic of condensing nutrients into a singular pill, a good point to have added would have been heme and non-heme Iron absorption. You get an entourage effect there because you absorb more non-heme iron in the presence of heme iron. In the same sense, the vitamin C in the orange he spoke of is in a specialized form to work efficiently with the other nutrients present. And then try putting all of the nutrients and their different rates of absorption into the context of the rest of a daily diet. As someone with multiple digestive disorders, the pursuit of an ideal diet is like a grail quest, I stg.
The moment your speaker said he didn't get a doctorate, my uncle closed the browser tab. - Many people still believe that, if you don't have university training, you don't know what you're talking about, and trying to dupe others for selfish gain.
What a wonderful podcast! Thank you for making this world a better place by interviewing smart people who are amazing! Love Chuck’s humour - always bringing us down to Earh 😂😂😂
I picture myself pushing a shopping cart around a block, getting an M&m shot into my mouth for every lap! What a hoot! I do think a refined diet is about 80 percent of the obesity problem in our country!
Thanks again for an incredibly informative video. One of my favorites. I learned a great deal about how to eat to live, instead of living to eat! Salud
😢I have to absolutely buy the cheapest food available, yay dementia amd death !!😮 Lets face it people we are struggling in all areas of life. Our corporate owned political system and their complete disregard for human life and dignity has doomed us. Prove me wrong. PLEASE prove me wrong!
The most consistent thing I’ve seen from all of the different diets out there (keto, Mediterranean, whole 30, etc) all contains the notion of giving up ultra processed foods and relying on whole foods, in whatever pattern that specific diet prescribes. So still what Max is ultimately saying. Shop the perimeter. Put down the bag of chips.
Max, you mentioned that you take fish oil for DHA instead of flax seed. But what stops you from taking algae oil?. I hope you know that the fish don't produce omega 3, fish get the omega 3 from consuming algae. Why not cut the middle men and save on resources?.
I would say if it were cancer I would say it's a food issue but with Alzheimer's other than just doing tricks to keep the brain sharp We have to do more underlining research to figure out the root problem cause I don't really think it's a diet thing, But I understand that food can play a part of the situation.
You say men are poor at converting flax and chia..but thats due to having an abundance of animal products in the digestion system. But if only consuming plant sources of Omega 3 the conversion is higher.
Whoa, hold on. Be careful about frying anything in olive oil. If it's heated above its smoking point--which is low compared to other oils--it becomes trans fat, which is toxic.
Im not sure but I think it's been proven now that you can heat it because the amount of trans fats is low as long as you keep it under the oil's smoke point
This conversation was in my frame of expertise. Everything said there is correct with what we know this moment but I felt didn’t touched the pathophysiology where it lays all the understanding of why is so difficult to turn the metabolic inflexibility and also the connection microbiome, hormones and brain.
Love all the StarTalk productions but this one had two unusual components (non-theoretical physics "things") that made it fun. The topic and the panel. Thanks for posting.
One important point missing in this wonderful conversation is the amount of nasty chemicals added to ultraprocessed foods in order to preserve them, make them more palatable with artificial flavouring, colorants, emulsifiers, stabilizers, etc that destroy our microbiome in our guts. That plays the biggest role regarding inflammation, immune system, leaky gut, allergies and probably mental issues
While I appreciate the guest and his care and dedication to this field/topic, I’m not sure the conversation is very scientific. He’s making somewhat definitive points and conclusions while referring to studies and evidence that is very “could be”, “seems to be”, “studies are beginning to show”. I’m guessing Neil’s unusual silence is due to the same skepticism Im having.
Yea, I did some research on the topic and the problem is simply that it's tough to scientifically prove why or what improved your health since the human body is so complex. Let's say you go on a keto diet and all your issues disappear...is meat what your body needed? Did it have something to do with your gut or are there other issues? What did you eat beforehand? Lots of sugar and carbs? Maybe you're even diabetic and dont know it?
Just heard a talk that said WHEN u eat is more important than what type of nutrional plan (keyo, paleo, Mediterranean, etc). Always restricting eating to an 8 hour window.
Warren Buffett did his own research many years ago, and noticed that the happiest people in America who also were the healthiest were 6 yr. olds. So he adopted a diet rich in foods that made him happy! Neil keep eating those fries and making videos with Chuck!
It you have your own backyard or a large enough terrace always try to grow the majority of your food. It’s the best way to know that it’s not processed.
I reversed 2 cases of dementia after finding the triggering mechanism. Not sure if it applies to all demintia. So if you have an injury that continues to cause inflammation, like a back injury, the chemicals it produces eventually goes to the brain, but it doesnt stop there. It takes space weather to act on the damage. So the episodes you see with dementia should match space wearher flux. Once we saw that, we created a shielding room and reversed the episodes immediately and after 2 week there were nonsigns of dementia. (baseline or episodes) The only problem is that you have to do maintenance by shielding a few times a week or heal the injury or other inflammation causing issue.
one more thing. Space weather seems to cause the damage to fester endlessly because it's an outside forcing that always there. I think that is why they can't figure out how to reverse it, but in our family's cases it did reverse. both cases were a bit greater than mid level dementia. How we found this is because coincidentally my wife has chronic migraines and the trigger is 100% space weather, geo magnetic activity and solar flares. So right now during solar max she is getting over 15 migraines a month, during solar minimum she can go an entire month without a migriane. We found a bunch of medical episodes that are mitigated by blocking space weather during high flux times, like Fibromyalgia takes 30 seconds to go to 0 pain level, adhesive aracanoiditis pain flare up takes 2 minutes instead of having pain for hours. Stops a seizure and coughing from being sick is the fastest its almost instantly. Space weather activates endothelial and inflammation so anything that involves that is mitigated with a shielding room.
I love the idea of eating more natural. For one it could help with emissions by eating locally, which would be a natural consequence of eating less processed foods anyways. It’s more frugal too. I have a potted salad garden on my porch. The produce tastes better & I get the added financial & health benefits.
Im 38 and the last year my daily supplement routine has contained… A .5g micro(ish) dose of psilocybin, lion’s mane, elderberry, apple cider vinegar, magnesium, iron, and garlic. I’m paranoid about dementia/Alzheimer’s because my grandmother on my moms side had a rare form of it. And currently, my mom has been showing signs of dementia as well…
Actually human canines are most likely not linked to meat consumption. Many frugivores have canines far larger than modern humans and yet live in trees eating mostly fruit. These teeth can be used for fighting and intimidating. In reality our tiny canines have actually reduced in size regardless of increased meat intake. For comparison see Australopithecus teeth.
Thank you gents for having me! This conversation was a pleasure to have. I hope it helps many.
It was great. Thank you!
Thank you
Excellent information, particularly about the benefits of animal proteins. Well done.
Hmm. Real food doesn't have labels. It's just food
Great points and pretty well explained, but I wished they had asked some more difficult questions, like for example
regarding the whole talk about maximizing protein intake what about the people in the Blue Zones (areas with the highest concentration of people over 100 years old) all around the world that don't eat a lot of meat?
What they have in common is that their diet is around 80% plant based. Given this fact how can maximizing protein intake increase longevity/be healthy?
Over a decade ago, I read that nuts, tuna, and greens give you the nutrients your brain needs to produce happy chemicals. My depression responded negatively to medication therapy. I started eating salads every other day, tuna for lunch most days, and subbed most of my junk food with nuts and berries trail mix. Depression symptoms improved significantly. I read that processed food contributes to inflammation, which I have in spades, so I started cooking from scratch as much as possible. Inflammatory progression significantly slowed. I became diabetic, so I subbed green beans for noodles and rice, and combined with medication I've lost over 50 pounds and reversed fatty liver disease and sleep apnea, even though my thyroid is inert. My quality of life has definitely improved by eating for nutrition more than for pleasure. I don't ignore emotional needs, holiday rituals, comfort foods, etc., But by making my default foods nutritionally dense, I am able to mitigate many of my accumulated health problems. This year I've added weekly salmon and more variety of veg and micronutrients, such as blue cheese on airfried sweet potato fries, and mushrooms in my marinara. My brain function is improving, and I managed to overdose on vitamin d, which a prescription level consumption could not get me into an acceptable range years ago. So, I've reversed a vitamin deficiency. I love trying new food now too see what I can fix next. Excellent discussion, fellas. By the way, I'm a Gen X'er who started developing severe health issues in my twenties. Be well.
What an inspiring story! Where did you read about nuts and tuna for helping with depression?
@@Temporary-nd5tb don't remember, probably some magazine from the checkout stand. Could have been online. Good luck. Be well.
@@Temporary-nd5tb Humans are evolved from hunters and gatherers. It only makes sense that their diet is good for us, too. There is a Doctor who has MS and did a TED talk about how she helped cure her symptoms by using the hunter/gatherer diet.
There are books out there about it.@@Temporary-nd5tb
Excellent. I started learning about Food As Medicine from Hindu's & Ayurveda, had a hippie Auntie who went to India, always got to know the Hindi people around me, ect... It absolutely works! A combo of Turmeric/Curcumin/Blk Pepper Oil is more effective for overall inflammation than anything I'v ever tried, even medication. I'v got practically everyone in my family on it. And a really good pro/prebiotic a few times a week will help keep the immune system strong.
I can personally attest to how diet can affect mental health. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder about 15 years ago, and had been on the same medication all that time. Last year, I changed my diet completely, cutting out all ultra-processed foods, focusing on eating more raw fruits and vegetables, healthy oils, beans, fish, and lean meat twice a week. Within 10 months, my energy has improved, I've lost nearly 24 kilograms, and the most amazing thing is that my mood swings, which I was still able to feel even with the medication, had been suppressed, and aren't nearly as extreme as they used to be. In fact, I have not felt hypomanic this summer at all yet, which is still incredible to me.
Great show this week. I really appreciate your variety of guests and topics.
I like how in this episode Neil mostly listened and let his co-hosts lead the majority of conversation, quality sportsmanship imo
Yeah lol and unlike most other topics Neil is neither the best example nor the most knowledgeable haha so good one to sit out for him 😂 love you tho Neil
Yeah I was really impressed!
@@julianheller9369but the rest of them are knowledgeable?
I agree..✔...but while Neil allowed his quests talk....Co-host > Chuck interrupted too much, trying to be funny.
I clicked on this Video because I wanted to learn more about > Dementia & Diet > What impacts your brain health.
> Time was wasted making a few too many 'Jokes.' > That time could have used to relay more important information.
> Sometimes.....too many quests > are just that....Too many.
The unfortunate side effect of Neil, Chuck and Gary not knowing the subject matter was that the guest got away with presenting misleading information, and Chuck felt like he had to joke twice as much to stay a part of the conversation.
The main guiding principle of Max's advice: reduce inflammation in the body through proper food and lifestyle choices. It's inflammation that's harming the brain, he said. In case anyone missed that or needed the reminder. Thanks, guys.
That doesn't bode well for me. I suffered above average levels of inflammation for decades. Nothing helps.
My family loves your podcast and this one hit home for my 11 year old son who loves both quantum physics, astrophysics and cooking. Thank you Max for sharing all. You set my brilliant son on another path that will benefit him and the rest of the family greatly.
What about scientology
Plot twist. These people are shills and most of what they say is just propaganda. Hopefully you will see them for who they are someday.
Since my teens I had depression and anxiety. I'm now 76. A few years ago I realized that my anxiety was actually dehydration and could be relieved by a slug of water. A few months later I discovered that my depression was actually "hanger." I also discovered that eating carbs was like eating Chinese food is alleged to be: I would be hungry again soon. So I eat real cheese on sourdough or eggs or, recently, grass fed meat.
I had a head injury several years ago when I lived in Cleveland. Concerned about my brain health, I started looking for a way to enhance that. Knowing ZERO about functional medicine, I found “brain health” as one of the concerns covered by the Center for Functional Medicine at Cleveland Clinic. I did not know until I got to my first appt that it was about 80 percent about diet. They gave me a way of eating that was super-easy to follow. Avoid processed foods. Greatly reduce sugar consumption (stop eating dessert every damned day). Greatly reduce starches to about 1/2 a cup a day. Stop eating bread. Eat lots of greens and vegetables. INCREASE healthy fats. Protein rich. I weighed 203 at the time. Pre-diabetic. GERD. Nine months later, and to this day, I weigh 135. Normal glucose. My GERD went away. Sleeping better. I mean. People who witnessed the change was asking, “how did you do that?” And it is EASY.
Fantastic. I had a similar experience getting rid of GERD.
very much my story eight yrs ago? Age 80 at time….stop eating sugars,breads, starches, bad oils etc. same as you. Read an article re hidden additives and preservative hidden in our food that are poisoning us was an eye opener and a possible resolution to my own health issues. One day …
emptied hse of 99% pre packaged foods. Put myself on whole foods, mostly plant based and found I had adopted an intermittent fasting plan….ate two meals a day, dropped fifty lbs. all med with exception of thyroid med. Now…89 and walking 2.5-3.5 m in morning. Hv no problems with foods now. Think i’d be dead without my UA-cam docs!🥳
Yes, you’re close to eating a Paleo diet when you remove all the processed foods, avoid sugars, avoid the breads the whites and concentrate on eating fresh fruits, vegetables, fish, poultry, and meats
Goodness people are so ADDICTED to sugar! But it really only takes 2-3wks to get past the addiction. That's a mole-hill not a mountain in the scheme of things.
What kind of protein do you typically have?
Remember that Max Lugavere has a background in film and psychology - not medicine or nutrition. He is a "wellness influencer." It's important to point out that interaction with Max's website or work will instantly result in your being bombarded with ads for supplements, gadgets, treatments, and more books. He has celebrated endorsements from Dr. Oz and Mark Hyman - which may "wow" the common public but I would hope that the StarTalk audience would know differently.
It is also important to remember that during this podcast, while Max’s books were referenced as part of his work, this was not an infomercial for his “products”. The information is what is important during this engagement, not his potential for making money after the fact. If that were the case then everyone who stands to make money off of others should not be trusted. He does not claim to be a medical professional, he is simply providing evidence to support an approach to eating that includes a well balanced, minimally processed diet. What, if anything, is wrong with that? There were no plugs for supplements, or diet plans, or exercise equipment. Just information.
@@jakobmorningstar bs dude, Neil let another grifter on and you're all getting grifted by him. Thanks @Srfingfreak I was watching this and heard the guy run over Neils first question. Pulled up wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Lugavere and boom the easiest con to spot. It's incredible how bad star talk has gotten lately. I've gotten literal gambling ads read by chuck and now they just bring on these wellness idiots. This should be taken as insult to Star Talks fan base. I thought this show was about science but then they bring these complete fakes on. I liked Neil this is so sad now I've gotta dig on everyone they have on the show :(
The bottom line is the information he is putting forth is truth and real research that is more or less common sense. Hunter gatherers are healthier and eating an American diet is going to lead to illness, that are avoidable with a healthier diet.
@@danmaertens7872 Hunter gatherers were lucky to live to 50. Don't be silly
That's an unfortunate consequence of the new way of internet life. More people than ever are trying to sell you something. btw -- Max is brilliant regardless of what is his background.
Probably one of if not the best episodes - its tangible and pretty much guaranteed that every viewer knows someone affected by dementia even if by a few degrees of separation
I like the implications of this episode, which is that you don't need to be academically trained to be knowledgeable and ask the right questions and hunt for the answers.
Thank You for your comment and the reminder that curiosity and intelligence does not always travel hand in hand with academic training. FYI. I'am the creative producer of this particular podcast as well as co host.😊
You need to be academically trained if you are going to spread false information
I Agree Adam 😊
no but without it you will waste a lot of time, guessing wrong.
@@avinashmurthy4690 and you need to a blind faith believe in mystical thinking without some academic training.
I loved this episode. Max was great, and he needs to come back for a second edition. My only regret is that he gave a partial list of beneficial foods but was cut off. I would like to hear what other foods he has found were useful, and why.
I felt the same way. I wish this episode was twice as long! I just subscribed to his UA-cam channel in hopes to learn more.
It's amazing how Max silenced so many for so long.
@lesmoore6912 - I'm sure that he wouldn't mind if you bought any of his books.
I thought this was great! I'm currently doing my PhD in the gut-brain axis; I've met Felice Jacka from the food and mood center and she is amazing. Truly a pioneer in the space of nutritional psychiatry, especially as it pertains to the microbiome. Lots of research emerging to suggest the Alzheimer's is a mitochondrial and metabolic disease more than anything, "type 3 diabetes" is how some researchers refer to it now.
I have a genetic marker for a higher-than-average likelihood of developing early-onset Alzheimer's and it worries me every day bc I have brain fog, memory problems, and recently struggle with my speech and remembering--let alone using--appropriate words. 😔 I appreciate this video so much, and its emphasis on this being a problem for Millenials and "young" people instead of just the elderly. We really do have to be conscientious of this and proactive.
Also... How do we get choline if we're allergic to whey (in eggs)? 🤔
@evia707 whey is the liquid remaining after milk has been curdled and strained. There is no whey in eggs. Eat fish especially sardines.
@@evaonthecoastCholine supplements are cheap.
There honestly aren't enough hours in the day to devote to this subject. I've read dozens of research papers from medical journalists over the years devoted to the relationship between processed goods and health and it's absolutely ASTOUNDING what our food is doing to us. Almost any malady that isn't genetic can be traced back to the type of diet that was consumed and it almost always relates to products that were promoted as being "heart healthy" 20 to 30 years ago. For instance: they told us Crisco was good for us when it was invented and that stuff is made from crystallized cottonseed oil (cris - crystallized / co - cotton). I mean, we may as well be frying our food in paint thinner.
Yeah, 90% of the food sold in grocery stores in the US is pure garbage and should be illegal. Our processed foods are killing us (not to mention all the plastic they are packaged in)!
In a since yes you have actually hit the nail on the head....
Pretty sure you would die immediately after frying food in paint thinner. But the point stands.
Anything that is not natural the body doesn’t recognize nor can it properly assimilate. We have adulterated the food so much it can’t even be seen as actual food. The most natural diet for a human aka a herbivore is an unrefined, unprocessed raw plant based diet. Eating anything else with the exception of mushrooms will eventually lead your body to disease and premature death
This is an amazing episode!! We couldn't agree more - nutrition is wildly impactful for mental health, and we are stoked to see it becoming a more mainstream topic.
Thanks for taking the time to break down some of these complex concepts!!
I don’t know if anyone has ever looked into this, but most of the people I know who has gotten dementia, have been the nicest people. Not just normal nice, I’m talking extremely nice people.
Dr. Tyson asking the perfect questions to highlight easy misconceptions and head a sense of caution
Again an amazing guest/expert in a field. This show never gets stale. It is rare to see Neil being this much silent XD, but Max had convincing facts as answers. Good eye opener for diet cult following.
Fantastic episode guys. Good work!
These types of topics are what we all need.
You can’t live without eating. We all need this info, getting pros who know more than all of the general public to tell us without a (message) just honest facts is beneficial to every single human being.
this is why I'm drastically changing my diet now at 34. cut out all processed foods, only eating meat eggs and some plant foods, a little dairy and coffee sparingly. cutting out grains has helped my gut so much, i have energy and I'm finally losing weight that needs to be lost.
@clemfandango6897 - Dairy products are our biggest source of calcium. If you cut back on it, you must substitute other calcium-rich foods. For more enthralling nutrition information, see the PBS series, "Food - Delicious Science". It will help you a lot and is fun to watch.
What would be grains?
Please Neil and Chuck, we need this startalk in Spanish ! This is an important topic to share.
My wife works developing vaccine using lactobacillus bacteria as a vehicle for antibodies, and she find more and more in the scientific community about the relationship between gut microbiota, or the health of these bacterias and the mood and deceases. But there is not much of this important info to everyone. We discovered that we don't need too much money to eat Healthy and take care of your brain and mood
Nice though unusual to see an astrophysicist moving into this field, its a very big area, and it seems for me after some years researching this topic, to be critical to understand it on a cellular level, to end up with having the knowledge to make your own adjustments. I do follow most of your great explainers and videos, really appreciate them all. I love the combination of professionalism and brilliant easy understandable humor, which always get me to laugh (that's healthy too):-) So a big thank you for what you are doing from here. (Denmark).
From my personal research his emphasis on the inclusion of animal products in diet being so critical is simply at odds with large bodies of research. There may be some molecules that are less common in plants, but there are far more molecules found in plants not found in animal products and often times the plants are required to offset the many negative affects of meats.
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A woke narcissist and Chuck. I'll pass.
These videos are wonderful and we need them for these difficult times, but there are so many millions of Hispanics like me in the United States who would like to see them subtitled in Spanish...Thank you for existing...❤
This is a stupendous episode. Chuck’s contribution was strong.
You like chuck eh?
@@Dandontlie everyone loves Chuck!
@@Prestrev1010 me too
as always!
Chucks the only one who could entertain the concepts being explained. Neil is being quiet because alot of it is unscientific jargon but he's paying a huge amount to sponsor his book on the channel.
Best Star Talk ever! We all need to explore the maze that leads to our personal proper nutrition needs. This topic deserves further discussion.
Great content, just to add, there is a misconception whole food is more expensive. When you eat whole foods the body tends to consume the appropriate volume, which is far less than junk foods. In my experience switch from junk to whole, food bill monthly is less😊
Chuck makes this show great. The others are interesting, educational, thought provoking and entertaining. But Chuck pulls it all together with wit and wisdom. 😂😅🤣
He's getting smarter
Thank you so much for putting out all of this information. I love listening to your smart minds! I have been using intermittent fasting and a diet that is real food and it has changed my life. I still eat what I consider garbage every now and again but you are right there is no one diet that’s perfect for everyone.
I’ve been following Max since his first Ted Talk and am very impressed with his growth and ever expanding expertise. Thank you StarTalk for sharing this segment.
As a cashier in a non food dessert chain, the chasing potato chips idea is hysterical but reminded me of what we already know. In a standard grocery store, you have to DIG for your nutrition. The milk eggs and meat are always in the back. Potato chips are in aisle 1.
@Matt02341 - Do most of your shopping from the periphery of the supermarkets. (And food has ALWAYS been medicine.)
I love that Neil allows his quests to talk... and doesn't interrupt them.
> But, Sometimes.....too many quests > are just that....Too many.
Great podcast, that makes a fantastic argument for good, old common sense! Unfortunately, common sense doesn't seem to be all that common anymore. I will soon be 71 years old. Growing up my Mom feed me and my siblings the standard "balanced diet" that she was taught back in high school in the 1930's! We had an animal based protein (beef, pork, chicken or fish), a starch (potatoes, rice or some other), a vegetable and a salad for roughage and digestion. We all grew up healthy and strong with no weight issues. Even today I am 5'9" tall, weigh 155lbs., and I feel great! My doctor tells me to keep doing whatever it is I'm doing.
I was also happy to hear the guest say he had no problem with frying with lard. i switched to lard quite a few years ago after reading that pork fat is a fat the the human body is designed to actually be able to digest!
Chuck is getting smarter every episode, for a lack of a better way to say it, its impressive
He is going to be the world’s smartest comedian.
Not all of us who have gone Vegan did so for dietary purposes.
Many, if not most, did so for ethical reasons.
Also, where did fish get omega 3 from? Algae? Seaweed? I’m good with that.
Yes, algal oil for Omega 3 !
Thank you, yes. That is what makes it a vegan diet and not just a plant based diet. I also believe that living consistently with one's ethical values is very good for mental health.
I did so for both. I would love to have a friendly debate with him, because all the reasons he gave for his position are VERY flimsy and ignore a lot of other circumstances surrounding animal products aside from their natural constituent nutrients. He seems reasonable enough that I might actually be able to sway him a bit.
nutrition is arguably one of the most important factors determining our health. It is astounding how few "smart" people are very knowledgeable about it. I personally think it's one of the largest travesties of our society that there isn't more focus put on it, especially by those in medical professions. grateful for star talk having to share this. I am hopeful that we as a society, especially in the United States, adopt healthier habits.
Great to see Max on Startalk, someone I've followed for a while and admire.
DHA and EPA fats are actually produced primarily by marine algae (seaweed and diatoms), and are subsequently eaten and bioaccumulated by fish. There are algae supplements that could be used to gain these compounds from a vegetarian source.
Exactly!
great to hear! there was a lot of subtle anti-vegan sentiment from the other speakers ("that's why we have canines"?? - even though MOST of our teeth are better suited for grinding fruit/veg/grains) so i'm glad to hear that there are bioavailable sources of DHA & EPA for non meat eaters
@@soleil2185they forget gorillas have canines...🤦♀️
Yeah. There is ongoing debate in the plant based community about whether we should supplement it or not. Some docs do some don’t. But in no way do we need to eat fish nor does or prove that we are carnivores. Even omnivores should be using algae and not fish oil if they are going to supplement.
Alzheimer Disease is very different than dementia. My husband had a head injury, leading to dementia, he was physically strong with anger, anxiety, memory loss, confusion and began assaulting us. Tragic.
Yes, there are several kinds of dementia.
@MARILYNANDERSON88 - I am so sorry.
Alzheimer's is the most common cause of dementia.
_I eat my comfort foods because I'm depressed._
_And I'm depressed because I eat my comfort foods._
_It's a vicious cycle._
@AnnoyingNewsletters - Exercise also helps a lot even though in the grip of depression, you do not want to move. Remember that depression is a brain condition of the neurotransmitters, FREQUENTLY inherited. Meds help correct that. You cannot eat lots of serotonin to help your brain because, as Dr Tyson pointed out, eating a nutrient does not mean that your body will use it where you want it to go. There is something called the "blood-brain barrier" that prevents lots of things from entering the brain, dietary serotonin being one of those things.
Timely! My mom (93) is suffering from h pylori right now and aside from the extremely uncomfortable physical symptoms, the effect on her mind has been profound. She is recovering, albeit slowly, and as she does I can see her thinking clear up along with it.
I’m sorry for you, but at some point it is normal to simply die and I think sadly we do have a very unhealthy relation with death. Maybe because I nearly die many times because of a chronic issue when I was young. But at that age you should focus on making the last moment of your mother as painless as possible and let her leave surround by people that she loves.
Say this so much...Great guest! So many brilliant minds in science, and we are very lucky, but also so many great and positively inspired human beings! Truly the best of us.
In other words,..."Nothing in biology (including human health) makes sense without evolution". Many scientists are doing great things in explaining this. I highly recommend, e.g., the book, "Exercised: how something we never evolved to do is healthy and rewarding", by Dr. Daniel Leiberman. Another good book is "The Obesity Code", by Dr. Jason Fung. Both of these books go into depth on many of the points discussed by Max Lugavere. :)
Another excellent book; Eat To Beat Disease by Dr. William Li. He's a well-known cancer researcher and plans diets for cancer patients.
Hearing Chuck Nice suggest we should hunt our groceries "Chase your food!' was a hilarious moment! When you think about it there's a kernel of wisdom in that humor, Thanks for the laughs Chuck!
Isn’t that what you’re doing to an extent every time you work out or exercise?
The worst snack foods are usually right next to checkout, or in aisles nearest checkout, no effort to find. Healthy stuff usually way back along edges of store. Having junk food moving through the store like a mobile sushi boat - I like that idea! though probably dangerous.
It made me think of Supermarket Sweep 😂😂😂😂 better run to get those meats!
I had my DNA analyzed and I found out I have both genes for late onset Alzheimer’s. Yay me 😊
I am almost 71 years old. I don’t feel old between my ears , but my memory and my body do.
I would Love to not forget who I am anytime now.
I see the future. I promise you are fine and won't have to worry about that. But, eat well and keep thinking and learning. .... or else.
Oof, that's rough. I hope it stays a hypothetical.
so sorry to hear that! I turned 40 last December and am considering that same test as gene replacement therapies will probably become more accessible in the coming years.
as you probably know, being homozygous for APOE4 doesn’t guarantee you’ll get the disease, but if you feel your memory is worse compared to your friends’ who are around your age, maybe talk to a neurologist. there are scans that can look for beta amyloid, an Alzheimer’s marker, a few new medications that appear to slow cognitive decline by neutralizing amyloid plaques, and research trials you could potentially join.
or just sit tight, try not to fret about it, and enjoy life. (not a thing i’m personally capable of, but sound advice, i’ve been assured.) good luck!
Don't stop reading n taking new information, also don't live on solitary, get active socially (easiest is to play video games with tons of social interaction, like a mmorpg)
And don't neglect your dental health!! Strong links between periodontal disease and Alzheimer's!
ONE OF THE BEST EPISODES IN RECENT HISTORY!! VERY INFORMATIVE AND HELPFUL. THANKS 😂😂
When I think about food being reduced to all of its separate components I am then struck by the fact that these components themselves may react to one another through digestion and the consumption of multiple items…and then you still have to factor genetic and environmental differences between individuals. So even if you do a clinical trial showing brain benefits for a particular food you will never know for certain how that result will play out in the real world. The best you can do is look at trends and make generalizations. I agree wholeheartedly that a whole foods diet with plenty of physical activity is “in general” the best way to go on average for the average generally healthy adult. Beyond that it gets a bit tricky. Blue zones are an interesting phenomenon and seem to agree with the whole foods Mediterranean diet for health and longevity.
A good expert to have is Dr. Lisa Mosconi, neuroscientist, who has researched and written about brain health, especially related to the under-researched area of women's health. A mostly plant-based, mediterranean type diet is encouraged. Plus whenever we recommend eating certain animals or their eggs or milk, we also need to consider their own rights to life and liberty (not to be bred, kept, farmed, and exploited), and the need to improve wildlife conservation/biodiversity, reduce ocean decimation, reduce the climate crisis, plus reduce zoonotic disease risks from mass production of animals and depletion of forests/habitats to grow feedcrops or creature grazing for farmed animals. Basically, we need to consider rights, justice, and ecology not just human nutrition in isolation.
This was such an amazing episode. I've recently subscribed to this channel & I'm learning so much while cracking up with laughter at certain times (thanks Chuck!). But on a serious note, this is such an important issue. I used to work in the aged care sector & brain degenerative diseases are among the cruellest blights on humankind. I was able to get a birds eye view I guess you could say, where I not only witnessed the person decline but also the emotional & mental stress that the family who cared for them went through. We really need to get a better handle on these issues & as you mentioned, prevention is better than cure. Thank you again guys for knocking it out of the park as usual, this really was an incredibly important topic.
Agreed but I always knew that no one in the world is actually allowed to experiment on the brain while a person is alive , they can work on cadavers, use MRI, CAT scans, meds, etc but no experiments on the brain I wonder if ,since we can sign up to do in a geopolitical proxy war y not sign up for brain experiments
I appreciate the clearly and carefully stated arguments for the role of food in brain health and disease. Will need to go to other sources for the documentation, but a helpful discussion.
Love the explanation of supplements and their role
Especially like the explanation about how epigenetics works
This problem is overwhelming for everyone involved
Great podcast. My perspective: You need to be healthy to eat a healthy diet. Use the dieting tools (keto, imf..) to get there. Consider bioavailability over ideology, antinutrients, fermented, non processed foods when figuring out what works for you and when to eat.
Ultra high processed shifts the cost from food to healthcare.
Good point! As they say, "Pay the farmer or pay the doctor."
42 years type 1 diabetic, I know if when hypoglycemic I eat until I feel better, I've already eaten way too much.
This was extremely helpful! I needed ALL of this!
Your discussion sort of supported a belief I've had. My mother had dementia (born 1917) in her 80s. Of course, I have concern about also developing it, but I'm thinking that my life is/has been completely different than hers (and I don't have the cholesterol issue she had) - food, exercise, life style, etc. So! I'm hoping that will help save me from the disease! Thanks for the discussion!
Wow finally an important topic that needs to be discussed.. im looking forward to this video... My dear loving Grandpa just passed away 7 months ago and he was diagnosed with dementia a year and a half before his passing which sparked something in me to get to the bottom of this terrible brain disease. It is so disheartening to see how debilitating this disease is on the elderly community living in nursing homes with dietitians working in these kitchen facilities whom are basically responsible for like slowly killing off our loved ones by unknowingly feeding them the wrong foods
I was a dietary aid in many nursing homes n many of us did not just read no sodium etc we had homework on all the difference diets they needed n y ik I was only a maths degree from university but I doesn't mean I took those weak chem n bio classes the psychologist ppl took , I was side by side with all the engineers in chem labs n Ochem n biology n blah blah right
My mom was 56 and quickly developed dementia while I was preparing to leave for college. No family history at all, but she had awful sleep hygiene, very unhealthy diet, didn’t exercise, chronic high blood pressure, and had poorly treated Bipolar I. She was also the primary caretaker for my grandfather, who was in palliative care by that time.
Between May and my going to college the next spring, (during which my grandfather died), the breakdown was profound. After that initial loss in self-care function, she lasted eight more years, with the last few being in a near vegetative state.
I’m not sure that any one or all of those things caused it, but like the guest it has really sparked my drive to maximize behaviors in myself and family to stave off the ravages of this disease, because my mother deserved a better ending and i don’t want any of us to experience the same.
My food costs actually went down when I stopped eating out and cut out all sweets, processed food, and junk food.
How!! Did you do it? All the stores around here don't give a damn about healthy foods. Just about scrounging up sales.
I am trained as a physicist, working in the field of clinical trails as a software engineer. I have always troubles with these discussions where common sense, even though based on some best effort studies, is the only measure of truth. In my opinion, medical science is in many aspects still in a pre Francis Bacon mode. I could fell Neil having some issues with that, however, I guess he is just a perfect gentleman…. Which is btw a good thing.
Points to consider, uncomfortable though they may be:
1. From a strictly evolutionary point of view, once your children have reached maturity (say, you're 40-45 years old), genetic health factors that appear only at old age are irrelevant. How healthy we are at 70 has never had anything to do with genetic success. Which brings us to:
2. Telomeres (look it up) and cancer. You run out of telomeres, your chances of cancer go up. This is another age-related factor/
3. Processed foods are part of what make 8 billion humans possible. No processed foods mean some people will face famine, and those people will be brown-skinned equatorial people.
4. "Conventional" (not organic) and GMO food production also are a part of what makes 8 billion people possible. All-organic means that that some people will face... you get the idea.
5. 3 and 4 above mean that eliminating "conventional"/GMO/processed foods will cause famine and death along well-defined racial, geographic and economic class-based lines.
6. Chronic overfishing has make one of the healthiest food choices (seafood) a luxury, where it used to be a mainstream staple.
Modern healthy diets are the realm of the rich and the white. Whether intended or not, that's the way it is working out.
Replies of accusations of classism or racism can F right off. I'm talking current reality, not advocacy of how we got this way.
I TOTALLY AGREE! Wish this comment was seen and understood by many more. Thank you!
There are programs through Food Link and EBT (federally funded) that have food trucks filled with fresh foods, milk, eggs, raw honey, etc. The trucks go to apartment complexes and other places where poor people live. I love the fresh food, the convenience (easy to carry), and the low prices. So there are programs around the country that bridge that gap.
Very interesting seeing actual nutrition knowledge on the internet I can rely on and not surrounded by blinding ads lol
25:46 My answer: We don't currently know enough about our bodies or how they react to chemicals in holistic way. Maybe someday, but not yet.
after giving up refined sugar for some years, i had a one-off jam scone and experienced suicidal depression ~ never again!
one thing to consider, everybody's body is different.
ps: totally agree with guest regarding not isolating ("refining") vitamins; many are not digested well like that.
I would say that not being able to eat even a small amount of refined sugar without suicidal depression is extremely abnormal. I’d be concerned about why that happened beyond “sugar bad”
Chuck always cracks me up! Thanks for brightening my day, Chuck. Btw...great interview❤
My grandparents both started dementia in their 60s. I assure you they ate NO processed foods except maybe pasta. They lived in a house with coal heat in their younger days. No one talks air pollution and grandpa made tires a known toxic substance. The leading cause of cardiovasular issues is smoking. Well air pollution if bad can be like smoking. 🇨🇦
How much pasta, bread, rice, and potatoes did they eat?
Around 27 minutes in, on the topic of condensing nutrients into a singular pill, a good point to have added would have been heme and non-heme Iron absorption. You get an entourage effect there because you absorb more non-heme iron in the presence of heme iron. In the same sense, the vitamin C in the orange he spoke of is in a specialized form to work efficiently with the other nutrients present. And then try putting all of the nutrients and their different rates of absorption into the context of the rest of a daily diet. As someone with multiple digestive disorders, the pursuit of an ideal diet is like a grail quest, I stg.
The moment your speaker said he didn't get a doctorate, my uncle closed the browser tab. - Many people still believe that, if you don't have university training, you don't know what you're talking about, and trying to dupe others for selfish gain.
because 9 times out of ten, it's true.
thanks to Max, probably the best video i've watched
My grandmother died several years ago at 95 due to dementia complications, she wasn't a Millennial, obviously.
@GlassDeviant - The same with my partner's 97 year old uncle - from complications of RSV. The vaccine came too late for him.
What a wonderful podcast! Thank you for making this world a better place by interviewing smart people who are amazing! Love Chuck’s humour - always bringing us down to Earh 😂😂😂
I picture myself pushing a shopping cart around a block, getting an M&m shot into my mouth for every lap! What a hoot! I do think a refined diet is about 80 percent of the obesity problem in our country!
Thanks again for an incredibly informative video. One of my favorites. I learned a great deal about how to eat to live, instead of living to eat! Salud
😢I have to absolutely buy the cheapest food available, yay dementia amd death !!😮 Lets face it people we are struggling in all areas of life. Our corporate owned political system and their complete disregard for human life and dignity has doomed us. Prove me wrong. PLEASE prove me wrong!
The most consistent thing I’ve seen from all of the different diets out there (keto, Mediterranean, whole 30, etc) all contains the notion of giving up ultra processed foods and relying on whole foods, in whatever pattern that specific diet prescribes. So still what Max is ultimately saying. Shop the perimeter. Put down the bag of chips.
Max, you mentioned that you take fish oil for DHA instead of flax seed. But what stops you from taking algae oil?. I hope you know that the fish don't produce omega 3, fish get the omega 3 from consuming algae. Why not cut the middle men and save on resources?.
My challenge is food allergies that pre-empt some of the foods Max is advocating. Finding work-arounds is difficult if not impossible.
I would say if it were cancer I would say it's a food issue but with Alzheimer's other than just doing tricks to keep the brain sharp We have to do more underlining research to figure out the root problem cause I don't really think it's a diet thing, But I understand that food can play a part of the situation.
To a few medical researchers, Alzheimer’s is called Type 3 Diabetes. See Ben Bikman, PhD. His current focus, Insulin Resistance.
You say men are poor at converting flax and chia..but thats due to having an abundance of animal products in the digestion system. But if only consuming plant sources of Omega 3 the conversion is higher.
Veganism is more about fighting against factory farming and improving the planet's health.
Would love to hear an informed discussion of statins and cholesterols, and what the current thinking is on them.
Many vegans and vegetarians choose their diet for ethical reasons... and live perfectly healthy(ier?) lives.
Funny
Whoa, hold on. Be careful about frying anything in olive oil. If it's heated above its smoking point--which is low compared to other oils--it becomes trans fat, which is toxic.
Im not sure but I think it's been proven now that you can heat it because the amount of trans fats is low as long as you keep it under the oil's smoke point
This conversation was in my frame of expertise. Everything said there is correct with what we know this moment but I felt didn’t touched the pathophysiology where it lays all the understanding of why is so difficult to turn the metabolic inflexibility and also the connection microbiome, hormones and brain.
Love all the StarTalk productions but this one had two unusual components (non-theoretical physics "things") that made it fun. The topic and the panel. Thanks for posting.
One important point missing in this wonderful conversation is the amount of nasty chemicals added to ultraprocessed foods in order to preserve them, make them more palatable with artificial flavouring, colorants, emulsifiers, stabilizers, etc that destroy our microbiome in our guts. That plays the biggest role regarding inflammation, immune system, leaky gut, allergies and probably mental issues
They only had about an hour and a is a big subject
While I appreciate the guest and his care and dedication to this field/topic, I’m not sure the conversation is very scientific. He’s making somewhat definitive points and conclusions while referring to studies and evidence that is very “could be”, “seems to be”, “studies are beginning to show”. I’m guessing Neil’s unusual silence is due to the same skepticism Im having.
Yea, I did some research on the topic and the problem is simply that it's tough to scientifically prove why or what improved your health since the human body is so complex. Let's say you go on a keto diet and all your issues disappear...is meat what your body needed? Did it have something to do with your gut or are there other issues? What did you eat beforehand? Lots of sugar and carbs? Maybe you're even diabetic and dont know it?
Just heard a talk that said WHEN u eat is more important than what type of nutrional plan (keyo, paleo, Mediterranean, etc). Always restricting eating to an 8 hour window.
Warren Buffett did his own research many years ago, and noticed that the happiest people in America who also were the healthiest were 6 yr. olds. So he adopted a diet rich in foods that made him happy! Neil keep eating those fries and making videos with Chuck!
Don't take nutrition advice from a financial expert...
Statistics don't lie
@@morbidmanmusic😂nice!
@@flyingsodwai1382Warren Buffett...92 yrs old,117 billion dollars... Just wanted to be sure we were talking about the same guy..
It you have your own backyard or a large enough terrace always try to grow the majority of your food. It’s the best way to know that it’s not processed.
One should never apologize for a pun. Be proud of any humor you can inject into a serious discussion!
Thank you for asking the how and why questions, Neil. It's key for consumers to understand and remember the mechanisms behind the effects.
I reversed 2 cases of dementia after finding the triggering mechanism. Not sure if it applies to all demintia. So if you have an injury that continues to cause inflammation, like a back injury, the chemicals it produces eventually goes to the brain, but it doesnt stop there. It takes space weather to act on the damage. So the episodes you see with dementia should match space wearher flux. Once we saw that, we created a shielding room and reversed the episodes immediately and after 2 week there were nonsigns of dementia. (baseline or episodes) The only problem is that you have to do maintenance by shielding a few times a week or heal the injury or other inflammation causing issue.
one more thing. Space weather seems to cause the damage to fester endlessly because it's an outside forcing that always there. I think that is why they can't figure out how to reverse it, but in our family's cases it did reverse. both cases were a bit greater than mid level dementia. How we found this is because coincidentally my wife has chronic migraines and the trigger is 100% space weather, geo magnetic activity and solar flares. So right now during solar max she is getting over 15 migraines a month, during solar minimum she can go an entire month without a migriane. We found a bunch of medical episodes that are mitigated by blocking space weather during high flux times, like Fibromyalgia takes 30 seconds to go to 0 pain level, adhesive aracanoiditis pain flare up takes 2 minutes instead of having pain for hours. Stops a seizure and coughing from being sick is the fastest its almost instantly. Space weather activates endothelial and inflammation so anything that involves that is mitigated with a shielding room.
@@SacredOwl What altitude do you live at?
Funny you can do what doctors can't... so... you didn't.
Far out dude, that's insaaaaaane.
Very excellent comment. Now we all know what it would look like for someone with dementia to write a youtube comment. Thanks.
I really enjoyed this chat today and it helped me make a better choice for my snack! Well... it's a start!
I love the idea of eating more natural. For one it could help with emissions by eating locally, which would be a natural consequence of eating less processed foods anyways. It’s more frugal too. I have a potted salad garden on my porch. The produce tastes better & I get the added financial & health benefits.
Im 38 and the last year my daily supplement routine has contained… A .5g micro(ish) dose of psilocybin, lion’s mane, elderberry, apple cider vinegar, magnesium, iron, and garlic. I’m paranoid about dementia/Alzheimer’s because my grandmother on my moms side had a rare form of it. And currently, my mom has been showing signs of dementia as well…
Actually human canines are most likely not linked to meat consumption. Many frugivores have canines far larger than modern humans and yet live in trees eating mostly fruit. These teeth can be used for fighting and intimidating. In reality our tiny canines have actually reduced in size regardless of increased meat intake. For comparison see Australopithecus teeth.