@@sunflowers2469 You don't know what you're talking about, venting to his friend's is "venting", he cannot speak to her like that without feeling her wrath so he bottles it up and vents to his friend's about it.
A simple closing statement would be to ask any juror to pick up their phone and show it if they've never ever sent a mean text about a partner to anyone. If one person can do that truthfully then they can judge Johnny harshly. Id be keeping my phone in my pocket!!!! Edit:ok they wouldn't be allowed their phones during the case so just a raise of hands
I was in a toxic relationship for over ten years , while pregnant , I was pushed off a deck and broke my elbow for dumping out his alcohol . I covered for years lying that I fell off as we didn’t have the deck completed yet . I was great at acting and I was so toxic and sick myself , hell bent on fixing my emotionally unavailable partner , when in reality I was so hungry for the love and attention I didn’t get from my parents , I’ve done lots of recovery and healing since then , I take ownership of my part in the relationship and proud to say I’m over 4 years sober .
Substance abuse is an automatic recipe for toxicity in any relationship. Congratulations on becoming sober; that's fantastic. I wish you a long & happy recovery!
Odd isn't it, that from the other side that exact same question is treated with disdain as if it were an insult... The hypocrite has one eye open, the other eye shut; only see what they want to see.
Personally I don't think that should ever be a factor. I know how hard it is to leave, and I'm pretty sure it's something that happens most of the time. If it is such a common occurrence, why does society expect humans to react differently? It's just a way to blame the victim. People always expect the victim to take responsibility for that piece of it, but I think it's wrong.
@@starrisesky which is often times why other people, male or female dont leave. Its just interesting how now, suddenly people see that it isnt just women who feel bonded to or responsible to their abusers and stay.
I don't know if this term is still used, but I learned about "codependency" when I was recovering from alcoholism years ago. It's a sort of dysfunctional glue that keeps people together. My parents were married for 50 years, and yet there was no intimacy, affection, only arguments and distance. But they were stuck together.
As someone who was a male victim of physical and mental abuse from a female partner for several years, and someone who also had substance abuse problems for x10 longer, this all sounds 100% accurate and all too familiar. I feel for Depp and can relate to what he’s gone through, absolutely.
yep. the addiction contributes, but is NOT the cause of being abused. and it becomes a coping mechanism. this is so hard because it becomes easy to paint a hurting person as the culprit when they were the victim
@@michaelwerkov3438 people with addiction can be very hard to live with. They get angry, become violent, pretend there is no problem. Pretend the sober people are nuts and imagining things, pretend that they don't have a problem. They will gaslight their loved ones 24/7 pretending that there is no addiction and that we are all crazy and imagining it. That is not innocent behavior or fun to be around. They are both guilty.
You… have no idea that he gaslighted her though? And not only that, his ‘addiction’ got worse when he started his relationship with her because of the stress. Not to mention, she has addictions herself. He also, allegedly, asked her to get sober with him and she refused
I am diagnosed BPD and got into intensive treatment for many months. Amber’s behavior is absolutely something I could have done prior to getting help. This is exactly how I behaved when somebody tried to leave me. I’d follow them all angry and punch things all around me. It’s so sad to see that behavior.
i have a really significant dislike of people acting out on borderline and narcississtic personality disorders... not just because of how miserable they make people, but because of their frequent inability to acknowledge their illness. props to you for seeking treatment. i hope it helps.
When I was young borderline was what narcissist is now, a popular amateur diagnosis applied to anyone being abusive. We thought of people with bordeline personality disorder as the devil and there was nothing to do but run from them. I'm very happy to see so many with the actual diagnosis get help and learn how to deal with the disorder. Noone is born to be "the devil".
Goran Breškić in my country Greece this behavior is the norm. I see it in movies and shows and when I went out randomly. That’s how ppl behaved predominantly. It’s like, you want space to calm down? Let me make you as angry as I can
I agree with you. I have had concerns with the Me Too movement, that it seems every woman is to be believed just because she made an accusation. I hope this trial, with JD as Plaintiff, a public figure who is beloved by men and women, will open people's eyes and embolden men to speak up.
@@vermilliongecko IMO - I believe women should definitely speak up about abuse. What I don't like is when anyone (male or female) makes serious accusations without actual evidence.
@@vermilliongecko Threatened by it? Good grief. What a leap you've made. I would simply like to see evidence of allegations made before they're believed.
@@vermilliongecko How can you justify Amber claiming to be the victim but actually the real Abuser.. Me too movement went to side on her so much so that they contributed on inflicting more damage to the victim. Sexual abuse is a very serious matter and every REAL victims needs to be heard but it will turn into a joke if the movement will keep continue to bring down other people without facts. I understand that you have to listen when someone say they are a victim but the moment you start accusing, canceling and destroying another person without facts, that is when the problem begins.
Or just any domestic abuse case. I think that these type of cases need more in-depth investigation of what happened and the “grey areas” of the situation. Nowadays there seems to often be a knee jerk conclusionary emotional decision made within 10 seconds of an allegation being made prior to any facts being known.
Abused people usually say that injuries made by their abusers were made by themselves to protect their abuser and make it easier on them when getting medical attention.
His finger looks like what happens when you slam it in accordion doors just like he says originally. It is possible that Depp and his sister were alienated by dad and grandma violet and hated and abused their mother whose reactions were pathologized. Kids like this can end up with a split personality. Ben king is a weirdo. Depp hires corrupt people only. Reversed polarities.
I went into this whole thing believing her for the last year or more. The further I go into this,the more I see that Johnny is flawed, emotionally complex and sensitive, and Amber is absolutely nuts that probably homed in on Johnny like a predator.
Johnny is just a good actor. He's as bad as she is. Good men don't get blind drunk and pass out in front of their kids after whining about how bad their own childhood was. I thought his one goal was to be a goooood dad? He told us that a few days ago. He did nothing but expose his kids to his drugged up, immature nonsense. Notice there isn't one story that takes place that isn't a wild island party? When did drunko have time to be a dad? No wonder so many people fall for scams. I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell. Uh, Johnny Depp was there once. That should be all I need to sell it. 🙄
@@gutsyjasmin4592 nah, Johnny put his wife and kids through hell and is now mad that his mistress who he ruined his life for was the lie that all mistresses are.
As a man who has been abused by an ex girlfriend I can say Dr grande is 100% right about how Johnny probably feels. Abusive people convince you that you are a horrible person and lucky to have them because you have so many problems.
Hope you’re doing well now. I agree with dr. Grande, it would be great if he made a video why we attract lunatic people in our life and stay with them so long...
Johnny Depp has explained in court why he didn't leave Amber Heard. This is what he said in the cord about this subject: "When my father left, my mother - that first attempt at suicide that I woke up to and that visual in my head - that was a direct result of my father's leaving. Many times when I'd try to leave she would stop me at the elevator with the security guards. Crying, screaming, ''I can't live without you, I'm going to die...''
my ex husband used to take a razor and was trying to cut his veins, till I catch him cheating on me and that was it, I didn't care anymore if he died or not, afterwards he told me after our final breakup he stabbed himself and went to the hospital, now.... I uncover that when I told him I am with someone else and we are over, he had already a GF and he married her after few months..... cheater and when I wanted to leave he would say that he will commit a suicide. Unless you lived in such situation many people who haven't experience the guild and the problems with such people, they cannot properly judge how it is, they make you feel guilty for leaving them.
@@sandrinemarchand8669 Former girlfriend. ;) Probably because she isn’t as unstable and didn’t regularly scream that she’d die if he left her, I’d imagine.
It was extremely powerful when they finished his testimony by asking him how he responded when heard told him to tell the world that he was a victim of DV and see how many people believed him and he simply responded “yes. I am.”
And yet on the recording she belittled him as though admitting that made him weak and an embarrassment to the male gender. I didn't give a shit about either of them before this, I was not biased either way but having listened to the evidence in the case I'm totally starting to side with him. I can't believe she submitted those recordings as part of HER defence! She comes across terribly in them. I believe it's her narcissism at play; she can't conceive of people not falling for her version of events and is so used to being able to manipulate everyone. What an awful, shrill, vindictive little shrew she is!
My mother was an untreated Borderline with a traumatic childhood. She passed away 20 years ago unhealed. Revisiting these behaviors are stirring up my PTSD.🥺
Same.. I'm sorry you had to endure this, too. I'm taking care of mine now and they just get worse as they age. I don't have it in me to go no contact. She has no one else.
My mom has BPD too, untreated as well. It’s incredibly difficult to even try to be close with someone who has BPD, it’s like you have to be on guard at all times, just waiting for the storm. It’s scary.
Forensic psychologist today diagnosed her with both that and histrionic personality disorder, didn't identity any PTSD generally or a worsening of her mental health between before and after the relationship. Todd should have waited a bit to put out this video lol.
Do people with bpd have empathy? Because I've dealt with two people who have bpd and they've been completely narcissistic, convinced they're always the victim and unable to relate to other people's perspective.
I always adore your well balanced approach. AH reminded me of my mother who also has BPD. Her fear of abandonment and her cruelty give me flashbacks of my childhood. Hope both people get help.
@@MissEwe I had no idea, but see on her wiki bio. Very scary indeed. "Heard has one child, Oonagh Paige Heard, who was born on April 8, 2021 via a surrogate mother."
Her getting irate and abusive everytime he tried to get away from her is classic BPD behavior. She literally blames him for how she behaves, big red flag.
I more see it thru the prism of a classic "anxious attachment type" (AH) Versus "Avoidant type" dynamic (JD) topped by narc traits (on both sides, but AH is way higher on the narc spectrum..)
@@prioract2842 It looks like this, that's why she got an, imo, wrong diagnose. It's difficult to explain, but having been exposed to a covert narcissist mother and having had a relationship with a man like this, let's one see through certain, very subtle traits and behaviours. Honestly- I'm feeling like going through hell, when listening to her.
@@cosimavonliebenau8317 yeah I remember hearing a different version of the story somewhere... I just can't remember what that different version was. To be honest I haven't been following this story directly only through secondhand sources like this UA-cam video so I get confused quite easily.
Spot on in the end there, DG. People often struggle to comprehend why victims stay, and you summed it up there much better than I can when I try. It's much the same as how victims can often look like the 'crazy' person, or even sometimes the perpetrator, but it is because we are only seeing the victim in their weakest moment, after endless prodding and psychological/physical torture. Not to mention perpetrators often choose their victims *because* they perceive weakness/malleability in them...
So true...victims often look like the perpetrator. A man can be awakened, and tortured by his partner who's having a complete BPD meltdown. No matter what hostilities occurred should he, in a moment of weakness, unwisely slap her, nothing else matters according to our legal system. He is demonized for allowing her to make him as angry as possible. AH criticising JD for trying to escape says it all for me.
Look these were two highly dysfunctional people in a highly dysfunctional relationship. Why did Johnny Depp push to make this trial nationally televised and aire their dirty laundry for the whole world to laugh at? Clearly Johnny Depp has severe drug and alcohol issues with a history of getting violent when he is smashed and Amber Heard has mental issues too. This trial will probably destroy both their careers and they both look bad here. The only thing this trial has done is show they are both nuts
@@gerardnardini2392 Amber Heard lost a lot of us when she refused his detox meds on the island when he was going through withdrawals She held it over her his head and held his addictions against him Amber is a corrupt sadistic torturer.
She desperately needed for people to believe she was a “good person” who was beaten by big bad Johnny - and now the whole world knows she’s a total demon. How has she not short-circuited? I just can’t imagine how she processes and copes with her current reality on a day to day basis
Their relationship probably took a decade off of both their lives. I hope Johnny gets the decision and the money he's seeking. I'm exhausted just listening to the trial!
Bits and pieces is all I can stomach watching the abuse play out in court. The exhaustion is exactly why I asked if the public can get a group rate for counseling? Then send the bill to each one of them! Lol 🤔❤️🇺🇸
@@elanahammer1076 Great idea! I can't even believe that after 3 years of this bullshit they were like, "Oh yes! We should totally get married!" Everyone said they were like this from day one. His daughter refused to go to the wedding because they were so jacked up and Amber's sister begged her not to marry him. Lust makes people idiots or insane, I guess.
It's definitely affected her looks. I used to think she was really attractive but seeing her in the trial, I thought she looked awful. I know lighting and makeup can work wonders but my word, she's changed. Her face looks saggy and she has terrible black bags under her eyes. Not to mention the wrinkles around her eyes. My husband said "Christ, I thought she was supposed to be beautiful" lol.
@@loulabelle5082 I don't like her especially because she's a narcissist who makes actual domestic violence victims get questioned. She is still attractive but it's what we have seen and heard come out of her mouth that makes us see her in a different light.
I am glad to see that male domestic violence in a relationship is getting the attention it deserves I suspect its alot more common than suspected. I hope both find closure regardless of the audit of a bad situation.
I had a friend who had a wife who would get drunk and go ABSOLUTELY crazy. She was a big, strong woman, too. She could easily take on probably 3 or 4 guys in a street fight. He was not nearly as big or as strong as her. My friends and I would go over their house sometimes and most nights would end up with her being locked out of the house, beating the shit out of the door and threatening to kill all of us while we waited for the cops to show up. One day he showed up to work with two gashes in the side of his head. He kept telling everyone some kind of lame story, and then eventually we found out that his wife had hit him in the head with a hammer. With the claw end (hence the two gashes). I haven't seen him since 2002. They were still married back then. I have no idea what happened to them or if he's even still alive. I sure hope so, but I kind of doubt it.
@@rars0n science says no, a woman can't take an average man in a fight. The strongest woman alive could be beaten by most teen males. The idea that women are as dangerous as men is a rightwing dog whistle to keep women down.
My ex and I were told in counseling before our divorce that "exiting" an argument was bad. She wanted to "just have it out", "clear the air", and I just wanted it to stop. But by leaving, I was sending bad messages - disrespect, putting up a wall between us, prolonging the argument. And yet, I've read sources that claim that this is "stonewalling" and is very bad, also. My solution? I've been divorced for 15 years and loving it.
I'm sorry you went through that. It is definitely VERY healthy to walk away from someone who is mistreating you and refuses to see things fairly, or try to control their out of control emotions. I used to never, thinking it was disrespectful to leave, but it's way better to show you won't take the toxic treatment and to only talk when they will be fair/stable.
It seems that Johnny develop a "pattern" of "exiting" an argument after having come to an understanding that the fights were "circular", essentially bizarre, with no possible resolution other than just caving to everything that Amber wanted, and essentially becoming Amber's puppy, and punching bag, and often escalated to physical violence by Amber (as well as random acts of violence, without any escalation). As he said, you reach a point where you want to leave, because you don't want another can, or whatever, thrown at your head.
There is a difference between stonewalling and stepping away to avoid escalation. Stonewalling is indeed problematic and can even be part of abusive behavior as it’s often passive aggressive and a means of controlling the relationship. Hence its bad reputation. Toxic people blur the lines between that and taking space when it is healthy to de-escalate, and try to accuse someone of the former when it in fact is the latter. Does that make sense? That is what Heard seems to be doing to Depp and sounds like your ex was similar. Glad you don’t have to deal with that anymore.
There's "clearing the air" and then there is shouting abuse and throwing histrionic tantrums. One is producive (while it can be exhausting) and one is destructive because one person is just unloading. I think your counsellor maybe should have not made such a blanket statement, because there are no hard and fast rules, ESPECIALLY when dealing with narcissists. What works for normal people is emotional suicide with a narcissist.
I watched the whole thing live and just listening to her say 'take off the ring then' and when he does she critisizes him for it, then the next moment she's yelling at him and suddenly when he composedly talks back she goes into a whisper telling him to calm down. That bit alone made me feel crazy just imagining myself in his place.
Exactly. She wanted to control his every single action where he couldn't take off his own shoes without her controlling it. He was so reasonable for most of their interactions. She would drive anybody crazy.
You know you are listening to snippets, right? Dr Hughes gave a comprehensive explanation that lines up with literature. In fact, in some places they train police to recognize DV this way - when you rock up at a house, notice who is calm and who is crazy. The crazy one is the victim.
@@Tamarahope77 The body language and behavior experts have said that they have never seen someone test as deceptive in as many ways as Amber Heard on the stand and they have been doing this for decades.
@@wishingb5859 That's strange. The No 1 leading expert on body language in the world, Paul Ekman, says that "it is impossible for anyone to perfect the art of lie detection...it’s important to remember that we can never know with 100% accuracy whether or not someone is lying." He goes on to say "There are many pseudoscience claims and myths about how to tell if someone is lying based on their body language." Dr Ekman claims that even most trained people like judges, police officers, drug enforcement agents, and Secret Service agents can't tell.
Wherever he asked for a few hours of space she freaked out and started crying and begging him not to go. You can tell she threw the bottle that chopped off his finger if you listen to her behavior right after the incident. They both signed paperwork that they would not talk about their relationship in public. There's another audio where he tells her repeatedly that he wants to leave her and she repeatedly says "shhhh come here I love you. Calm down. Shhhh."
Yeah, she was begging him because she was absolutely genuinely at that particular moment in time. She really meant it when she said that him walking away is pure torture for her and kills her. That's one of her personal issues - fear of abandonment. We don't know where exactly it comes from, but in her mind, even having terrible, never ending arguments is still better than just being left there. By continuing to argue, she is able to hold on to the person. That's probably something she experienced in her childhood home. It's not out of calculated malice, but because she's hurting in that way. It can also be argued that a part of Depp somewhat enjoyed these episodes, as he was presumably unable to assert himself aggressively in a direct way, but still his contempt and aggression towards her are palpable in many recordings and text exchanges. So what he does is is this whole "I'm leaving, I'm leaving, I'm gonna go, I don't want you, look I'm leaving" thing, while he continues to STAY and rub it in the whole time. That's what gave him power over her, as opposed to the explosive situations where she was clearly more assertive and dominant than him. She's the exploding grenade type of person, he's the histrionic string puller. That is, again, part of his personality complex - he has the need to withdraw, but the narcissistic part of his injured self wants to be begged and needs people to dangle after him while he's being unapproachable. What Depp fans refuse to realize that these two are both damaged individuals that both trigger each other in very effective and unhealthy ways. It's a typical toxic relationship, and they're still not done with it. They're duking it out in public because they separated privately, but they're not done. This is still a love that hurts and that's the reason why Depp filed this trial.
Hey Doc, I just want to say I'm grateful to be able to access your opinion on this case. I listened to the recordings in full yesterday and I pretty much agree with you entirely. It's been fascinating seeing everything unfold. It seems that AH has roughly zero evidence that supports that JD was physically abusive with her. I'm finding that both JD and AH are relatable in this case, but AH certainly comes across as childish, manipulative, and vindicative. She may whole-heartedly feel she was the victim, but she is losing traction.
When I was much younger (I am in my 60’s) I was in a toxic relationship in which I idolized my boyfriend and felt he was much better than I was and that I would lose him (which I of course did) and tried desperately in all kinds of wrong ways to force him to stay with me. I was out of my depth with him. I felt I had to assert myself to make myself hold on to him, to keep him my captive. I’m not proud of this history. I was able, over time, to learn from it, but only after being born again in Christ. I was immature and had very low self esteem that projected itself as over confidence and arrogance. I see a lot of my younger self in AH. I don’t excuse her, she’s wrong and abusive. I do feel sorry for her though….but the decision should definitely go in JD’s favour.
What apart from the police report and the TRO when she finally left Depp in 2016? Remember when everyone thought that Gabby Petito's interviews with the police apologising for hitting Brian Laudrie meant that she was simply missing?
@@ek7390 do you mean the report from the 4 officers who attended the penthouse call out and saw zero evidence of any violence either on AH or the home?
I was stuck in a 7 year relationship with a narc because he wore me down and constantly reminded me of why I am lucky to have him and why no one would want me. They say stuff like that to gaslight you to devalue you, to prevent you from leaving. After we broke up, I realised the opposite was true, but took me years to rebuild my self esteem. Now I'm with an AMAZING man who is 10000x better than my ex in every way ☺️
I would say she has an extremely jealous personality, covets attention, and gets paranoid to the point of delusion when anyone is paying attention to anyone or anything that is not her.
What?! He's the one that was slut shaming her and degrading her for doing her job. He even wrote it in blood ffs. She's no angel but he's an insecure conservative old man who had to degrade her to make her feel bad for doing her job. An ex assistant even said she was afraid of taking roles that Johnny deemed as "whore parts" because of how he'd react. Classic manipulation and emotional abuse. They're as bad as each other.
I have been suffering from massive panic attacks since breaking up with my borderline Personality Disorder ex-girlfriend. I met her at a silent retreat; she was physically stunning and we had some eye contact when the retreat began. Once it was over, she ran to me, hugged and French kissed me. Her first words were "You are my twin flame, followed by trust me, I'm not crazy" As she was so pretty and I was vulnerable, I just went with the flow. There were other aspects of this "deep connection", her manipulative words of being so trustworthy of this "love" that I just dived in too. Even though we went back to our own countries, I started dating her long distance; I would go to her country to visit too. Within the first month of our relationship I learned that she had been married and divorced 3 times before aged 28, she had slept with 55 men, most of her relationships had been no longer than 6 months and prior to my b-day within that first 4 weeks, she shared with me that she had an STD. I was so blinded by the LOVE bomb and co-dependency that I ignored all these red flags. The first time I saw her rage was when I went to sleep, she came back to the room and slammed the door while yelling as I didn't wake up to have sex with her. Moreover, she would scream at her cat all the time. Other red flags were the fact that she kept talking online to other guys, didn't mention our relationship to them, etc, etc. Sex was amazing at first but it became strange as time moved on, as if she wasn't there. Twice after flying to her country, she declined to see me while replying to my messages with a "we broke up" as I didn't share my flight schedule with her! Months later she had already cheated on me, was always flirting with guys on social media and I learned that she suffered from Borderline Personality Disorder and other mental health issues. She didn't want to go to therapy either nor was she taking any medication. Obviously within our time together, she was suicidal, the highest level of toxic abuse I have ever experienced: physical, emotional, psychological, and overall hell. I have gone back to read some of her WhatsApp messages and they are just truly demonic.
There are other celebrities who have been diagnosed with BPD. Pete Davidson has spoken about his diagnosis and it seems like many people who have BPD also have terrible relationships. I'm fascinated with the case at hand with Depp and Hurd. I've been a victim of narcissistic abuse and trying to get through the trauma still. My heart goes out to Johnny Depp.
Poor Pet Davidson I just read where he had gotten Kim Kardashian's name branded onto his chest. That's right, not just tattooed but branded. I don't know if it's true.
I dont blame him for yelling and calling her names…he was sickof her crap…id do the same. When someone constantly belittles and screams at u you eventually lose your composure
Johnny has been caught screaming at people and being abusive for decades before meeting Amber Heard. Seems like you’ve conveniently forgotten that part. His alcoholism and drug addictions were partly fuel for this behavior, and it’s why he can’t get work in the entertainment industry anymore. No one wants to put up with his tantrums on set.
Hello Dr. Grande, you are presenting this case to us in a very interesting way. In this video about Johnny and Amber, I find your explanation of "borderline personality disorder" is just a diagnostic classification used for treatment. Very well explained. I will listen to the videos you present to us until the end. Thank you for your work. Best Regards. ❤👍
Wow Doc! You nailed it! Amber’s behaviors were a dead ringer for my ex girlfriend’s. I stood it for as long as I could, but finally realized that it wouldn’t get better. Thanks for the therapy session!
@@Coastpsych_fi99 Depp didn't get evaluated because he didn't bring his mental health in the case. She did by saying she suffered PTSD from their relationship.
Dr. Grande, I see your channel as an expression of hardships suffered in the human journey and the various poor outcomes that can result. What a great way to effect widespread mental health awareness using relevant, current situations.
Excellent analysis Dr Grande. I believe Turd also was a serial adulterer, taking men back to Johnny's apartments whilst he was away filming. She is seen on security video I believe, When Johnny confronted her she called him deluded and jealous. I firmly believe Johnny is a victim and this trial will cause many people to change their opinion of both of the characters involved. Turd will be an outcast, and Johnny will be redeemed, at least I hope his name will be cleared, which is his greatest wish.
Its just a sad situation overall, showing how people "in love" can be "in hate" later. Hollywood was unfair to him I feel. Good points always. Thanks Dr G😊💚💚
@@nomadscavenger Agreed. I was just summarizing lol as people seem to like to argue with me or spin my comments. Johnny got taken in by beauty as do most men am sure. A true narcissist or mentally ill person can cause another to act totally out of character and he doesn't appear to be a violent guy. Good luck to them yes😊🧡🍀🗡⛵☠💫🙌
I think AH's neediness would drive any man insane. She seems to have drained JD so much emotionally that he was no more than an empty husk by the time she was through with him.
That was such a corny comment. The dude is a grown man....plenty of Ex Gals and should be able to handle this spoiled Brat. Was he so cunt struck he was hypnotic and helpless? He just need to get away from the Drugs and Alcihol...maybe spend more time with real friends not up and coming attention whores.
I agree! She played perfect doing things that aren’t possible to continue like taking off his shoes and having a glass of wine ready when he got home? Like who can do that daily? It was soooo exaggerated to seem perfect so he can fall in love. Notice the real drama didn’t start until directly after the shot gun wedding. She couldn’t keep up with the fantasy she built to trap him and now that they were married she let her true self show.
"Many people have many borderline personality traits without having any mental disorder." This and what you said about classification of disorders is something I wish more people without a psychology background were more aware of. These diagnoses exist to help people manage their lives like other illnesses.
True, but in order to get a diagnosis, you have to meet certain criteria for a certain amount of time. People can be depressed but not clinically depressed, they can have anxiety at times, but it’s normal. If it disrupts your life, causes relationship problems, and causes problems with work, then it’s most likely a disorder.
Obviously... EVERYONE has traits of depression without having it. EVERYONE has traits of NPD without having it. EVERYONE has traits of autism without having it. And so forth. One or a few symptoms vaguely mentioned doesn't mean anything. A lot of people have abandonment issues. Practically everyone can be very angry sometimes. Dissociation is normal when it's a choice, we all do it. All hormonal teenagers have mood swings and unstable relationships. Anyone who doesn't want a stable relationship or is argumentative e.g. fwb obviously won't get one. Humans are very selfish creatures. Anyone who's immature infatuates over people. And so forth.
Amber relentlessly poked the bear. The bear wasn’t allowed to leave and was backed into a corner. He became verbally abuses as a last resort. She broke this man. She most definitely needs a psych evaluation. Amber is a slap in the face for true DV victims. Johnny may not win his case but he has won the war.
She did. The therapist that diagnosed her is testifying right now. She says that Amber has Borderline Personality Disorder and has Histrionic Disorder. Amber looks mad. They have screen shots were she is looking at her hand with a look of contempt.
@@miriammanolov9135 I know right. She is really in trouble now that a forensic military psychiatrist just told us she has Borderline Personality and is Histrionic. I can't wait to see cross.
I'm definitely interested in hearing your thoughts on the forensic psychologist's testimony she diagnosed Amber with borderline personality disorder and histrionic personality disorder!!!
@@kevinhornbuckle sure but that's not enough for a diagnosis; the psychologist conducted multiple tests confirmed that amber doesn't have PTSD and met personally with amber for 17 hours
@@kevinhornbuckle Dr. Grande always says that he's not diagnosing anybody in his videos though, however I do notice how he's trying very hard to appear non biased by doing a +/- video balance about johnny; when in reality things have been going really well for johnny thus far!! also Dr. Grande seems to be following the case only recently when almost everything has been out since the UK trial so I see that as laziness on his part (agree with you on that)
This psych seems to have been hired by JD and his team. She certainly stumbled when questioned re having dinner and drinks at JD's house. She gave the diagnosis they paid her to give!
I've had violence enacted against me by two separate girlfriends and I wasn't abusive myself. I think this needs to be talked about more. All forms of domestic violence need to be countered and that can't happen without destigmatizing the act of admitting you've been abused, which starts with not shaming or blaming the victims.
I have always believed any one can experience domestic violence. I did with my ex husband and I hope things will change . Both male and female can be abused, its a horrible human trate , and I’m sorry you went through this. Maybe after this trial the world will open their eyes and realise men can be hurt too.
But do you see the issue with this as someone like Amber Heard can come forward and lie to get sympathy. I think it’s important to hear victims out, provide support, provide therapy, ensure their safety, educate them but we need strict legal process before condemning people. Sorry you went through abuse.❤️
This is all so horrible - because so many can see their own lives. I am happy Johnny sued her (even though he is not perfect either). People like Amber push people over the edge....deliberately.
Totally agree. I wasn't invested in either side until I heard those recordings. Then, suddenly, I realised what a manipulative narcissist she actually is! I hope she gets a reality check and learns to grow up and change her behaviour before she adversely affects her child. I really do. What an awful woman she is!
Your first sentence is so spot on! I think it’s a big part of the reason why so many people are invested in this trial & feel so emotional about it as well…I know I’m one of those people now 😅.
@@Gypsy_Soul7 omg! I definitely can't see my own life in their relationship. Thankfully I've never had one of those tumultuous type relationships. Maybe it's because I'm pretty chilled out and so is my partner. We don't fight much, it's more like I'll moan that he hasn't tidied up after himself and he'll moan that I'm too tidy. Little niggles at each other but that's it. I couldn't be in this type of relationship, it's not me at all. I like the passion to stay in the bedroom but I want the rest of my life to be chill! Lol! I can't understand how, or why, anyone would stay in this relationship. If I was screaming at someone all the time I'd think "well, I've obviously fallen out of love with this fella because I'm behaving like I hate him"! But these people tell themselves that they love each other. Love isn't just a romantic and sexual feeling, it's the way you behave towards people. I don't know how he lived with this woman; the way she speaks to him and never lets him reply. She makes it impossible to communicate.
@@loulabelle5082 Agreed. Their relationship was beyond toxic. The only part of it that I’ve related to is being with someone that seems to bring out the “worst” in you (they seemed to do that to an insanely unhealthy degree ) & vice versa…and when you realize that you’re in this kind of relationship, it’s time to say bye, Felicia 👋🏼. I’m no relationship therapist, but IMO, they never should’ve gotten married-they remind me of Sid & Nancy with their over the top, toxic drama. It’s ultimately so sad 😞.
@@Gypsy_Soul7 I know right, why get married if you are arguing all the time? And why not do a prenup if she was so obviously unstable and vindictive. My husband has a theory about this: he says Depp realised he was getting old and had a midlife crisis and ended his marriage to the mother of his kids. Then he takes up with this young attractive "creature" (lol) not caring how well suited they were, only bothered about how good she looks on his arm. And the fact he gets to stick it in a younger model, obviously. My husband says he was trying to reclaim his youth and that he thought all the fights and raised emotion was reminiscent of being in a young person's relationship. Basically "look how passionate this relationship is! No old person behaves like this! I'm still clinging on to my youth!" It's sad, really, but probably true. And it's not only men that go through this. I remember hitting 35 and I had a mini breakdown about it. But you can't keep those years away no matter what you do, lol!
I am so interested in outcome of this court case especially how this couple's relationship pattern reflects each of their attachment styles and impact of their childhood upbringings.
I'd just like to thank you for making these videos. You've been my go to guy to helping me understand the people in my personal life as well as myself for about a year now. Sometimes I'll watch a video on what can cause a person to act out, it gives me a weird since of calm when I'm dealing with an irrational person. It's nice to know I'm not causing them to act that way. Example, I let a down on her luck woman move in with me because she had cancer and family issues. I realized there was something wrong within a week because she claimed to know celebrities,she was going on a book tour for a book that hadn't been written, she was in the Guinness book of world records, 80s rock videos,she was a twin. On a daily basis she made up crazy stories but oddly she was a good roommate and a good person. I watched a few of your videos, got a general understanding of certain mental illnesses she may have. Then I watched a few videos on how to deal with those mental glitches. I told her I believed she may need counseling for her lying band attention seeking. She moved out on good terms and all was well. BTW she didn't have cancer. It crushed me because I had just finished chemo shortly before we met. Cancer was why I let a stranger move in with me. I wanted to help someone else have a second chance. I did help her just not in the way I thought I would.
As someone who has experienced vulnerable narcissism first hand, I feel incredibly sorry for Johnny and the picture he's painting is painfully familiar. Narcissists are disgusting.
I took this which I think it’s accurate… The media didn’t even ask his side. They blamed his drinking as the problem (He had been sober for YEARS but the violent relationship had led him back to his addiction, his only escape) She leaked a picture of him asleep with ice cream melted on him to prove how “out of control” he was to shame him even more. All of his past partners have stepped up to support him, all saying he was nothing but kind and loving.
The best, or weirdest, part of the story is that she recorded the whole drama, which suggests that she was at least aware of what she was doing and either portrayed herself as a victim or felt victimised. All in all, a prime example of a dysfunctional complimentary relationship.
I think she recorded it because he is so well loved nobody will ever believe her. The thing is, they were already super suffering with each other for a long time and neither of them left.
You'd only record something if you genuinely believe you are in the right and know you'll use it as a method to get them hurt in the future. Bonus points because you can crop the recording so it looks the way you want it to be, even if you were the instigator, for example. I see it a lot nowadays... It's also very strange how she ended up recording it - almost as if she knew she wanted to start a fight.
I think Amber is the worst out of the two obviously no one is perfect and Johnny Depp definitely has his issues but when it comes to this situation hands down she's the rotten one based off the evidence they have shown so far in my honest opinion
Just from listening to the tapes, Johnny Depp seems like a good guy; someone not unpleasant to spend time around. Amber Heard, on the other hand, behaved in ways that would send me running far and fast.
@@rubyparchment5523 Is it really though? Is that what this is all about? Because I have a strong suspicion that any mate of Amber Heard, of any age relative to her own, is going to have a very similar experience. But maybe you can point to real life (not movie fiction) examples of this happening to other older men/"eye candy" couples.
I am so glad you are doing these, I have a passing interest in the case but the thought of sitting thru all the footage and the extremely one-sided narratives around it is rather off-putting. Good to have such a thoughtful and insightful commentator as yourself to do the legwork for me.
It would be interesting to see how this case brings awareness to men being victims of DV. Heard wanted to bring awareness to women in DV situations and this might turn the focus to males which is equally important. No one should suffer DV, no one.
Also, his 14 year relationship with Vanessa Paradis was SO different than the sham 18 month marriage with Heard. Johnny and Vanessa were friends with similar values and they continue to be friends after they ended their romantic relationship. They were never married but were committed to co-parenting their children together. In my opinion marriage and traditional family life is better on the level of morality (I’m a Christian), but by all evidence that relationship was peaceful and harmonious. I don’t think Johnny became a different person. He knew how to have a give-and-take, respectful relationship. He unfortunately fell in with a predator and had no idea what he was getting into after 14 years of peace with Vanessa. He was blind-sided, I believe.
There is a bitter sweet irony in the resolution that Johnny finds justice and revives his public relationships on his riper age in life, while Amber has most definitely nose dived her own carreer into the ground at a relatively young age with so many prospects. The sweet taste of equality.
Thank you for covering this so fairly. There is so much wrong wrong in Heard’s absurd claims it’s hard to know where to start. It would be laughable if not such a dire a situation. For one, no real guitarist would cut off their own finger. Especially not one with a life long passion for music who uses it as a form of therapy. As an actual d.v. survivor, it’s clear who is the victim & is absolutely is not Amber…
The therapist who diagnosed her says in her current testimony says that Amber has Borderline Personality and is Histrionic. The therapist is testifying right now. Before they went to lunch she said that Amber is Borderline Personality and Histrionic.
I think the most striking thing is how Johnny would try to retreat from conflicts while Amber would insult him for doing so. That's some real bully behavior on her behalf. I don't put much weight into her statements when she says stuff like "you're killing me" just because Johnny is talking about getting a divorce. To me that just sounds like emotional manipulation. She has destroyed her own reputation.
I have never seen a whole movie with Johnny in it and don't "know" him so am commenting just on what I see on the news regarding his and Amber's relationship. I was in a dv situation and can assure you, getting away from the person who is violent was uppermost in my mind! It seemed JD tried repeatedly to escape AH. She seems volatile and can't be kind to him. I hope the jury sees it for what it is, HE is the victim here.
@Lorraine, his filmography is immense, most of my favorites I saw when I was young: Secret Window, Sleepy Hollow, Benny and Joon, Edward Scissorhands--they always make you think.
Lol he’s an alcoholic druggie narcissistic sociopath. Abused his entourage for decades before he met Amber Heard. He had no issues cheating on and leaving Vanessa, he wasn’t ‘stuck’ with Amber not was he trying to escape. You are a fool.
Your analyses of this trial are excellent! The theory you presented in this video makes perfect sense. I hope you continue to cover the trial. Thank you so much Dr. Grande.❤️
I totally agree with Dr. Grande's assessment and why Johnny decided to file a law suit against her. He knows he will probably not win but at least his side of the story is being revealed. I lived with a man who was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder who was willing to be abusive to gain control when he thought I was going to leave. I endured many years trying to survive for my own reasons. Basically I thought he was going to lose control and kill me and my daughter. He conditioned me for years through systematic emotional, verbal and physical abuse to believe it. When my daughter turned 18 and I knew he could no longer take her, I escaped and left. I know first hand the toxic, destructive behavior and when I started listening to the the tapes of Amber going off the rail at Johnny, I knew exactly what she was about and what Johnny was going through. If I could have overpowered and used violence to fight back against my ex I would have. I had contemplated many times killing him but because of my fear of what would happen to my daughter I didn't do it. I am a totally non violent person never even spanked my daughter but that is what he drove me too. I also tried to retreat when he went into a rage, but he would follow me or not allow me to leave so he could continue his abuse. Borderlines are the most toxic, damaging people to ever engage in a relationship with. In the beginning when I first met him, he did not display his true self but put on a mask of what he thought I wanted him to be. It's all a trick to manipulate and seduce you, It's a trap. And Amber Heard did the same thing to Johnny, To me, she is fortunate that Johnny is not a violent man, because if he were, she would of been beaten by him or perhaps even killed. Borderlines will drive you to the point of insanity almost knowing when to pull back before they drive you over the edge, only to calm down, tell you they love you and then start the process all over again. It is insanity. I feel sorry for Johnny and I'm glad he is suing her so the truth of what she is and what she did to him is being revealed.
Thank you, Todd. I feel like this is extremely strong analysis. The dynamic you described near the end gets to the heart of what is so confusing to deal with for people caught up in it. I think that Johnny himself said that he became extremely confused in the situation. It rings so many bells here for me.
Thank you Dr Grande! I was waiting for this one! I have Bpd, and when I heard their audio recording… I was having flashbacks to my past bpd behaviours! Treatment does work, and this vicious illness can diffuse, as it takes time discipline, self and social awareness to catch when your in a episode!
And I also want to add having lived with an abuser for 20 years, men who abuse women don't start in their 50's. If Johnny was an abusive male, he would have a track record. There would be other women from his past relationships who would come forward to collaborate her testimony. Johnny has had many relationships and several of these women have been interviewed and they have all stated that he was never violent towards them and Johnny has consistently used alcohol and drugs since he was very young. I'm not condoning his use, but he didn't start to suddenly drink and use and then become violent. He has used during all of his past relationships and no evidence of violence. That to me is more proof that Amber is a manipulative, shallow, abusive, lying little gold digger. I hope this ruins her career because she deserves it.
Way to break it down Dr. Grande. Seems like individuals in the entertainment industry get surrounded by teams of “yes men.” No one is bold enough to tell them the truth. When you’re constantly surrounded by people validating your bad behavior it seems to take a sizable jolt in order to finally come to a realization. They were definitely toxic together. Hopefully this whole incident causes them to take a hard look at themselves and do the hard but important work necessary to break free of these negative habits/behaviors.
Thank you Dr Grande for continuing to cover this case. There is a lot going on and I and many of your subscribers and viewers appreciate your thoughts. It is going to get more interesting when Amber takes the stand. Her depositions in the other case we're very telling.
Amber got diagnosed with BPD today by an expert forensic psychologist and Amber's legal team was unable to really refute this diagnosis because of how thorough the analysis was, having to attack character and dishonestly impeach the witness. Everything she described about BPD and how it manifests in intimate relationships perfectly tracked with Amber's observed behavior so far in this case, and her statements about how the arguments can be cyclical and how disengaging is perceived as a threat lined up so well with Johnny's and the other witness' testimony. Her testimony about Amber's exaggeration of symptoms and attempt to game the test was also damaging to Amber's credibility as a witness. A lovely lovely witness for the Depp team.
Very good analysis, Dr. Todd. It's a far more common interpersonal dynamic than people are aware of, I believe with a natural insecure attachment from the get go....and so many people suffer in a bubble (without awareness), on either side, sadly. I too hope this brings more awareness. BPD is treatable, yes....but when that covert or comorbid narcissism and histrionic manifests in the dynamic, that's a fast and turbulent slide into the rabbit hole for everyone involved in the relationship. Amber appeared, by all accounts, to be far more overt in her manifestation than covert -- and that is on display, even triggering for those that present with BPD, SA and/or have been, or participated in these kinds of relational dynamics, especially when the NPD traits and tactics of manipulation (and all the tools in that tricksters bag) start to bleed into events. It's painful to watch, all of it, but I do hope people are watching, becoming more aware and are talking about this. Johnny's ready to heal and pick up the pieces of his life, and I believe he has greater insight now of how these dynamics commingle, I think he might have sought the truth long ago, in fact. I don't know if Amber is at the point of taking any personal responsibility or seeking the help she needs. I think its going to be an extended ride for her.... Tragic an experience, but this is life's reality for far too many. I think Johnny is deeper in his lifes meaning and purpose and philosophy....and will thus make peace with this - continue to incorporate this learned knowledge and awareness into his core being, and outward through his creative works and expression -- for many years to come. One of the biggest hurdles to moving forward for anyone having suffered, participated or having contributed to these dynamics is walking with the shame, and denying oneself compassion and self love. Let it go, your newfound awareness is an opportunity to dance anew. Love to you all, thee that suffer. If you are one that presents, seek help from a trained professional.....and hopefully, those that practice will really take heed of these relational and individual dynamics and deploy realistic skills and therapies to help those suffering acknowledge, educate themselves and overcome. CBT and DBT are excellent learning tools and skills practices, but they are not enough. In fact, it is sadly watching the dynamic play out in front of our eyes as a case study, that has really engaged people and brought awareness to others, and our own behaviours. One can visualize what they normally only think and feel in isolation.
I have a family member who has BPD. My ex-husband was BPD and antisocial. My expience is it is SO difficult getting away from them. Amber's behavior is VERY familiar to me. Though Johnny is not without fault i hope the jury sees thru her crap.
There are people out there that want to be in a relationship where they are the submissive. Heard wants to be in relationships where her partner is really rich, e.g., Elon.
mexican Valentino Lanos was Amber ex boyfriend! oposites polars of personality however the couple separated amd Lamod i believe he expressed relief of the separation hinting the relationship was toxic! so maybe you can find here what your looking for!
He stayed because of childhood trauma perpetrated by his mother, because he did not want to "fail," and because he was likely turned on by the intensity and "passion" of the relationship (even though it also made him sick). Add AH's youth and beauty to the mix and there you have it. Essentially, he's a middle aged dude who lost his wife and kids (for whatever reasons). He desperately wanted a do-over (midlife crisis yada yada) and thought AH was his chance. He didn't bargain for all of the damage she would bring to his life.
It sounded like initially (during the honeymoon phase, I guess) , everything went okay. But then cracks started to form. JD should have split at the first sign something was wrong, but I guess he loved her and wanted to make it work. Good old fashioned notion. But very few people stick around any more. Life is too short and when someone appears to have psychological problems, it will go untreated and get worse unless that person is committed to getting their personality disorders treated. JD should have surrounded himself with people who cared about him and then listened to them when they gave their opinions.
If that were true he wouldn’t have cheated on and left Vanessa Paradis - he didn’t ‘lose them’ as you claim. He cheated and he left. Your theory just fell apart, boom.
@@ALT-vz3jn I have no knowledge of why JD "cheated," if he did so at all (before this trial I knew very little about him). Regardless, people are compelled to cheat on their spouses for a variety of reasons, some conscious, some unconscious, and they often regret doing so. Whatever JD did to contribute to the demise of his marriage with Paradis, it stands to reason that he would feel like he "lost" her and that incarnation of his family as a result. People make mistakes, and people want redemption and second chances (if not with the person they lost, then with someone new). Life is not so black and white.
@@nicetalkintoya yup the relationship with madame Paradis was quite intense involving arguing intoxicated in front of french neighboors or at the restaurant I really waiting for his other trial cause he is really not mister nice guy
Excellent analysis!!!!!!! You questioned why Johnny stayed with Amber. Later testimony indicated 1)he did not want to fail and let everyone down, 2) he feared Amber's threats of suicide (as his mother made an attempt after Johnny's father left her). Thank you for giving such a concise analysis of all this craziness!!!
If Amber Heard truly is Borderline then her lashing out at Johnny Depp in the press was predictable. The worst thing a person can do in the eyes of someone who has BPD is to leave them. They are most afraid of abandonment. I empathize with Depp. We are the same age and while his upbringing seems to have been substantially more turbulent than mine there are some similarities there too. I never felt the need to self-medicate as he has; nevertheless, I have taken my turn at trying to remain in a dysfunctional marriage. It doesn't work. ... I feel bad for the guy, I really do.
@@janpierzchala2004 Possibly, though I haven't watched enough of the trial coverage to form a solid opinion. Besides it wouldn't matter even if I had. I'm not a clinician and therefore I'm unqualified to diagnose anyone's mental health; esp. that of people I've never met.
@@johnnolen8338 A qualified psychologist presented results of Amber's recent examination, surprisingly. Yesterday in court. Earlier it was just a hypothesis and a more general one: cluster b for sure I thought. I can see it wasn't a major news that diagnosis yesterday. Greetings
@@janpierzchala2004 Earlier this morning I heard a news report saying that Amber Heard had been officially diagnosed with Histrionic Personality Disorder, which is from Cluster B certainly but I don't know enough about clinical psychology to tell whether this is accurate. And like I said, I've never met Johnny Depp or Amber Heard. I'm not going to take sides in a fight that is absolutely none of my business. Thank you for the insightful discussion though.
How can it be considered ‘verbal abuse’ when they were sent to a friend and would have remained secret between them if not for her legal team. 🙄 ignoring that revenge fantasies from those being abused are very common and for the most part totally harmless venting from those who feel impotent in their frustration. She certainly wasn’t ‘abused’ by them.
Thankyou, Dr Grande for being fair and balanced with regards to this case. Not many people like Miss Heard, I'm not a fan myself. It's easy for a lot of people to 'hate' on people who are deemed 'the bady'. I am guilty of doing the same. Especially in today's world with social media etc.
My son's father recently stayed in an abusive relationship for almost half a year. He knew it was bad around two months in, but he was afraid that if he left her she'd poison their mutual friends against him or claim that he was abusive. He ended up having to end the relationship when she started hitting herself one day,and sure enough, she told all their friends he beat her. I was with this guy for 8 years, he never raised a hand to me, and I knew all of his ex's (small town) and they're all still friendly with him. He'd never hit a woman. But a lot of their mutual friends believed her and she really damaged his relationship around town. It's really frightening how easily a woman can damage a man's reputation in that manner and it hurts real victims of domestic abuse.
i couldn't agree more with your analysis concerning this topic but more importantly -- you brought a few points full circle for me and made me realize things I had not considered before now. Although the main focus is the relationship between these 2 ~ it seems clear to me that JD faced an insane amount of conflict internally...he did not agree with or take pride in who he was becoming but he still likely had good intentions ~ whereas AH seemed to be her own biggest fan all along - with the sole intent of 'winning' and not giving 2 f%s how low or far she would have to go. Wow.
Excellent analysis. Brilliant, Dr. Grande. Thanks for making sense of this disastrous dynamic. Keep asking myself, why, Johnny why did you marry this girl? I just hope Depp's lawyers see this video.
There is a video out there outlining the similarities between AH and the character Amy from Gone Girl (it’s chilling, but really illustrates how far a grudge/manipulation can go, especially when someone taps into the victim culture)
That's a really interesting analysis Dr. G. I can't stand Amber Heard anymore. I find her so disingenuous, angry and mean. Whatever Johnny Depp's faults and troubles I do not see him as a violent person, and he seems to be a very kind man in general. I think Amber's violence and meanness is horrid to behold, but I do feel pity for her - the terror she has of being abandoned must be hellish. I hope that Johnny Depp wins this case. I think he deserves it after all she's done to him. I do hope both of them can heal from their troubles, though I wonder how much Amber can heal while she remains so blind to how awful her behaviour is.
i dont know. my family gave me up into the caresystem when i was 12, i literally lost everything.been through alot of abuse. im diagnosed with borderline and ptsd and bipolar disorder, also bulimia. i have horrible abandoment and attachment issues. yet i would never be able to do something like that. im pretty sure its always been about fame, getting bigger roles, the money he payed for her friends and family - remember noone had to pay rent - and more. its kind of sickening how much i read here about abandoment issues, poor amber. lol. she is intelligent and priviledged. theres nothing known about her experiencing abuse in her life. there is such thing as people who are cunning and calculated. plus she did alot of drugs. on her own wedding on mdma ? forreal ? you would want to take that day in with all of your senses, when you truely love someone. i simply dont think she ever loved him.
@@MH-ys2gd I agree with you, her actions are not justified by her emotional problems. And I question too whether she ever really loved him. I think she uses successful men like Johnny to further her career. I'm sorry for all you've gone through, M H, and at such a young age too ♥.
One of my male friends got sucked into a relationship like this with a girl with borderline personality. She had schizoaffective disorder as well. She was awful and they lost custody of their 2 month old because of her behavior. She called the cops on him all the time when he stood up for himself or she badgered him to his breaking point.
@@janebraun4482 their marriage counselor told her to hug him more because it's his love language, so she started withholding them instead. Then when he had begged and begged for a hug after a bad day at work he punched a hole in the wall. There are other things too. She's just insane and doesn't care.
Those text were not to her. He was venting to his friends. She never saw them, so you can’t say they were used to verbally abuse her!
Thank you. It’s amazing so many people don’t get this.
Yeah good point. Still I think Depp is somewhat in the wrong but Heard much much more in the wrong.
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@@sunflowers2469 You don't know what you're talking about, venting to his friend's is "venting", he cannot speak to her like that without feeling her wrath so he bottles it up and vents to his friend's about it.
A simple closing statement would be to ask any juror to pick up their phone and show it if they've never ever sent a mean text about a partner to anyone. If one person can do that truthfully then they can judge Johnny harshly. Id be keeping my phone in my pocket!!!!
Edit:ok they wouldn't be allowed their phones during the case so just a raise of hands
I was in a toxic relationship for over ten years , while pregnant , I was pushed off a deck and broke my elbow for dumping out his alcohol . I covered for years lying that I fell off as we didn’t have the deck completed yet . I was great at acting and I was so toxic and sick myself , hell bent on fixing my emotionally unavailable partner , when in reality I was so hungry for the love and attention I didn’t get from my parents , I’ve done lots of recovery and healing since then , I take ownership of my part in the relationship and proud to say I’m over 4 years sober .
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well done !
Good for you, hindsight is always 20/20 but you put yourself at risk by taking a drunks booze. Take care
Poor guy
Substance abuse is an automatic recipe for toxicity in any relationship. Congratulations on becoming sober; that's fantastic. I wish you a long & happy recovery!
Ah, the old “why didn’t he leave” argument. We ask women this all of the time…
Odd isn't it, that from the other side that exact same question is treated with disdain as if it were an insult...
The hypocrite has one eye open, the other eye shut; only see what they want to see.
Personally I don't think that should ever be a factor. I know how hard it is to leave, and I'm pretty sure it's something that happens most of the time. If it is such a common occurrence, why does society expect humans to react differently? It's just a way to blame the victim. People always expect the victim to take responsibility for that piece of it, but I think it's wrong.
@@starrisesky which is often times why other people, male or female dont leave. Its just interesting how now, suddenly people see that it isnt just women who feel bonded to or responsible to their abusers and stay.
I don't know if this term is still used, but I learned about "codependency" when I was recovering from alcoholism years ago. It's a sort of dysfunctional glue that keeps people together. My parents were married for 50 years, and yet there was no intimacy, affection, only arguments and distance. But they were stuck together.
@Doctor Shell Right on Doc! Am I correct to assume you're using sarcasm in your last sentence. HAHA. Thanks!
As someone who was a male victim of physical and mental abuse from a female partner for several years, and someone who also had substance abuse problems for x10 longer, this all sounds 100% accurate and all too familiar.
I feel for Depp and can relate to what he’s gone through, absolutely.
I'm so sorry you had to go through that
yep. the addiction contributes, but is NOT the cause of being abused. and it becomes a coping mechanism. this is so hard because it becomes easy to paint a hurting person as the culprit when they were the victim
What about his verbal,mental, and physical abuse towards her? He is not innocent.
@@michaelwerkov3438 people with addiction can be very hard to live with. They get angry, become violent, pretend there is no problem. Pretend the sober people are nuts and imagining things, pretend that they don't have a problem. They will gaslight their loved ones 24/7 pretending that there is no addiction and that we are all crazy and imagining it. That is not innocent behavior or fun to be around. They are both guilty.
You… have no idea that he gaslighted her though? And not only that, his ‘addiction’ got worse when he started his relationship with her because of the stress. Not to mention, she has addictions herself. He also, allegedly, asked her to get sober with him and she refused
I am diagnosed BPD and got into intensive treatment for many months. Amber’s behavior is absolutely something I could have done prior to getting help. This is exactly how I behaved when somebody tried to leave me. I’d follow them all angry and punch things all around me. It’s so sad to see that behavior.
i have a really significant dislike of people acting out on borderline and narcississtic personality disorders... not just because of how miserable they make people, but because of their frequent inability to acknowledge their illness. props to you for seeking treatment. i hope it helps.
Michael Werkov nobody enjoys living like this, so out of control of how they feel.
When I was young borderline was what narcissist is now, a popular amateur diagnosis applied to anyone being abusive. We thought of people with bordeline personality disorder as the devil and there was nothing to do but run from them. I'm very happy to see so many with the actual diagnosis get help and learn how to deal with the disorder. Noone is born to be "the devil".
Goran Breškić in my country Greece this behavior is the norm. I see it in movies and shows and when I went out randomly. That’s how ppl behaved predominantly. It’s like, you want space to calm down? Let me make you as angry as I can
@@Maritina89 That's literally how all abuse works, even serial killers murder because of how they feel.
I hope that this trial results in more awareness regarding male victims of domestic violence. Anyone can be a victim of domestic abuse.
I agree with you.
I have had concerns with the Me Too movement, that it seems every woman is to be believed just because she made an accusation.
I hope this trial, with JD as Plaintiff, a public figure who is beloved by men and women, will open people's eyes and embolden men to speak up.
@@vermilliongecko IMO - I believe women should definitely speak up about abuse. What I don't like is when anyone (male or female) makes serious accusations without actual evidence.
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Threatened by it? Good grief. What a leap you've made.
I would simply like to see evidence of allegations made before they're believed.
@@vermilliongecko How can you justify Amber claiming to be the victim but actually the real Abuser.. Me too movement went to side on her so much so that they contributed on inflicting more damage to the victim. Sexual abuse is a very serious matter and every REAL victims needs to be heard but it will turn into a joke if the movement will keep continue to bring down other people without facts. I understand that you have to listen when someone say they are a victim but the moment you start accusing, canceling and destroying another person without facts, that is when the problem begins.
Or just any domestic abuse case. I think that these type of cases need more in-depth investigation of what happened and the “grey areas” of the situation. Nowadays there seems to often be a knee jerk conclusionary emotional decision made within 10 seconds of an allegation being made prior to any facts being known.
Abused people usually say that injuries made by their abusers were made by themselves to protect their abuser and make it easier on them when getting medical attention.
Or because if they say anything the abuser will make you pay for it.
Or the abuser will pound you in the face is you snitch on him in his narcissistic world.
I also understand him saying it was the wording he used. Like saying, "I cut my hair," when you had your hair cut.
True. Seen my mom do that alott when my dad was still alive… 😞
His finger looks like what happens when you slam it in accordion doors just like he says originally.
It is possible that Depp and his sister were alienated by dad and grandma violet and hated and abused their mother whose reactions were pathologized. Kids like this can end up with a split personality.
Ben king is a weirdo. Depp hires corrupt people only. Reversed polarities.
I went into this whole thing believing her for the last year or more. The further I go into this,the more I see that Johnny is flawed, emotionally complex and sensitive, and Amber is absolutely nuts that probably homed in on Johnny like a predator.
People like her absolutely prey on those who are emotionally vulnerable. They don't usually expect their victims to fight back.
Thank goodness people are finally seeing this. Johnny's been through hell because of this abusive woman.
Johnny is just a good actor. He's as bad as she is. Good men don't get blind drunk and pass out in front of their kids after whining about how bad their own childhood was. I thought his one goal was to be a goooood dad? He told us that a few days ago. He did nothing but expose his kids to his drugged up, immature nonsense. Notice there isn't one story that takes place that isn't a wild island party? When did drunko have time to be a dad?
No wonder so many people fall for scams. I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell. Uh, Johnny Depp was there once. That should be all I need to sell it. 🙄
@@gutsyjasmin4592 nah, Johnny put his wife and kids through hell and is now mad that his mistress who he ruined his life for was the lie that all mistresses are.
@@cl5470 you have put a number of inaccuracies on comments. Johnny had broken up with Vanessa 2 years before hooking up with Amber.
As a man who has been abused by an ex girlfriend I can say Dr grande is 100% right about how Johnny probably feels. Abusive people convince you that you are a horrible person and lucky to have them because you have so many problems.
Why did you stay?
Asking for a friend...
So true! Belittling and make you feel less or evil is part of their abuse.
Hope you’re doing well now. I agree with dr. Grande, it would be great if he made a video why we attract lunatic people in our life and stay with them so long...
Go listen to cherry wine by Hozier bro.
Keeps calling him monster until Johnny used the same word to himself.. he hears it from her all the time. She's making him feel like shlt.
Johnny Depp has explained in court why he didn't leave Amber Heard. This is what he said in the cord about this subject: "When my father left, my mother - that first attempt at suicide that I woke up to and that visual in my head - that was a direct result of my father's leaving.
Many times when I'd try to leave she would stop me at the elevator with the security guards. Crying, screaming, ''I can't live without you, I'm going to die...''
Manipulation :x I'd be surprised if he isn't heavily traumatised by all of this.
my ex husband used to take a razor and was trying to cut his veins, till I catch him cheating on me and that was it, I didn't care anymore if he died or not, afterwards he told me after our final breakup he stabbed himself and went to the hospital, now.... I uncover that when I told him I am with someone else and we are over, he had already a GF and he married her after few months..... cheater and when I wanted to leave he would say that he will commit a suicide. Unless you lived in such situation many people who haven't experience the guild and the problems with such people, they cannot properly judge how it is, they make you feel guilty for leaving them.
WOW then so cruel of Amber to threaten she will die!!
Bu then why would he have leave his former wife Vanessa?
@@sandrinemarchand8669 Former girlfriend. ;) Probably because she isn’t as unstable and didn’t regularly scream that she’d die if he left her, I’d imagine.
It was extremely powerful when they finished his testimony by asking him how he responded when heard told him to tell the world that he was a victim of DV and see how many people believed him and he simply responded “yes. I am.”
“Yes....Yes I am”
And yet on the recording she belittled him as though admitting that made him weak and an embarrassment to the male gender. I didn't give a shit about either of them before this, I was not biased either way but having listened to the evidence in the case I'm totally starting to side with him. I can't believe she submitted those recordings as part of HER defence! She comes across terribly in them. I believe it's her narcissism at play; she can't conceive of people not falling for her version of events and is so used to being able to manipulate everyone. What an awful, shrill, vindictive little shrew she is!
So powerful
My mother was an untreated Borderline with a traumatic childhood. She passed away 20 years ago unhealed. Revisiting these behaviors are stirring up my PTSD.🥺
😣
Understand that one.
Same.. I'm sorry you had to endure this, too. I'm taking care of mine now and they just get worse as they age.
I don't have it in me to go no contact. She has no one else.
My mom has BPD too, untreated as well. It’s incredibly difficult to even try to be close with someone who has BPD, it’s like you have to be on guard at all times, just waiting for the storm. It’s scary.
@@see4ward gosh stacia this is so so hard. I’m sorry 😢
@@chelsearudisill7312 I’m really sorry 😢 go gently
As someone who suffers from it, she absolutely seems to have it as well
1000% agree, I’ve said this from day 1. As a fellow sufferer, she reminds me of me before medication
Forensic psychologist today diagnosed her with both that and histrionic personality disorder, didn't identity any PTSD generally or a worsening of her mental health between before and after the relationship. Todd should have waited a bit to put out this video lol.
Thank you for your honesty. I wonder if she is self aware? Seems like a lot of people who have bpd admit it.
My ex-wife had BPD, Amber Heard has the typical symptoms. They're a nightmare to live with. I had a put her in jail.
Do people with bpd have empathy? Because I've dealt with two people who have bpd and they've been completely narcissistic, convinced they're always the victim and unable to relate to other people's perspective.
I always adore your well balanced approach. AH reminded me of my mother who also has BPD. Her fear of abandonment and her cruelty give me flashbacks of my childhood. Hope both people get help.
Me too jessdee - I feel so sorry for Amber's daughter.
@@MissEwe I had no idea, but see on her wiki bio. Very scary indeed.
"Heard has one child, Oonagh Paige Heard, who was born on April 8, 2021 via a surrogate mother."
Her getting irate and abusive everytime he tried to get away from her is classic BPD behavior. She literally blames him for how she behaves, big red flag.
Poor man couldn’t even remove his own shoes or move his hand without her going off it seems.
Total narzist... Du. Hast die schuld. Wie ich bin. DU DU DU...TYPISCH
I don't think she's a BP. To me, she's a covert narcissist
I more see it thru the prism of a classic "anxious attachment type" (AH) Versus "Avoidant type" dynamic (JD) topped by narc traits (on both sides, but AH is way higher on the narc spectrum..)
@@prioract2842 It looks like this, that's why she got an, imo, wrong diagnose. It's difficult to explain, but having been exposed to a covert narcissist mother and having had a relationship with a man like this, let's one see through certain, very subtle traits and behaviours. Honestly- I'm feeling like going through hell, when listening to her.
"I've cut the tip of my finger off" belongs with "I've broken my leg". Not meant to be taken literally.
Not when the fingertip is found on the floor by the fridge.
"I've been struck by lightning" 🌩
@@cosimavonliebenau8317 didn't she chop his finger off hurling a bottle at him?
@@ZadenZane A bottle or a can, apparently. Unless the bottle shattered in full flight, it’s a bit hard to see how it could cut a finger off.
@@cosimavonliebenau8317 yeah I remember hearing a different version of the story somewhere... I just can't remember what that different version was. To be honest I haven't been following this story directly only through secondhand sources like this UA-cam video so I get confused quite easily.
Spot on in the end there, DG. People often struggle to comprehend why victims stay, and you summed it up there much better than I can when I try. It's much the same as how victims can often look like the 'crazy' person, or even sometimes the perpetrator, but it is because we are only seeing the victim in their weakest moment, after endless prodding and psychological/physical torture. Not to mention perpetrators often choose their victims *because* they perceive weakness/malleability in them...
So true...victims often look like the perpetrator. A man can be awakened, and tortured by his partner who's having a complete BPD meltdown. No matter what hostilities occurred should he, in a moment of weakness, unwisely slap her, nothing else matters according to our legal system. He is demonized for allowing her to make him as angry as possible. AH criticising JD for trying to escape says it all for me.
@@gerardnardini2392 ;_
Agree, however there is evidence of her being verbally and physically abusive, so your argument doesn't hold up! Seems they are both toxic people!
Look these were two highly dysfunctional people in a highly dysfunctional relationship. Why did Johnny Depp push to make this trial nationally televised and aire their dirty laundry for the whole world to laugh at? Clearly Johnny Depp has severe drug and alcohol issues with a history of getting violent when he is smashed and Amber Heard has mental issues too. This trial will probably destroy both their careers and they both look bad here. The only thing this trial has done is show they are both nuts
@@gerardnardini2392 Amber Heard lost a lot of us when she refused his detox meds on the island when he was going through withdrawals She held it over her his head and held his addictions against him Amber is a corrupt sadistic torturer.
I feel terrible for Amber’s daughter.
That child’s life will be nowhere near normal with someone that unstable as “Mommie Dearest”.
What's normal
Mommy Dearest was fabricated:)
NO WIRE HANGERS, EVER!
Narcissist Mothers or Fathers aren't fabrications. They are very real and do much damage...
and that can carry over into adulthood 😐
@@OldHeathen1963 Narcissist Mothers or Fathers aren't common, either.
Her lawyers are a joke. They keep using the "he's a drug addict" card && it's tiresome and not working
She desperately needed for people to believe she was a “good person” who was beaten by big bad Johnny - and now the whole world knows she’s a total demon. How has she not short-circuited? I just can’t imagine how she processes and copes with her current reality on a day to day basis
She copes with alcohol and her echo chamber friends
A stack of hollywood cash and the lack of a soul go a long way.
@@bas1010 She does appear like the booze 🥃
Shes a sociopath, she thrives off destroying relationships
"Total demon" 😄
Domestic Abuse happens at all income levels. People don't leave for the same reasons.
Their relationship probably took a decade off of both their lives. I hope Johnny gets the decision and the money he's seeking. I'm exhausted just listening to the trial!
We are exhausted and we are peaking from the outside. They lived it and none of them went like this isn't it within the first week?
Bits and pieces is all I can stomach watching the abuse play out in court. The exhaustion is exactly why I asked if the public can get a group rate for counseling? Then send the bill to each one of them! Lol 🤔❤️🇺🇸
@@elanahammer1076 Great idea! I can't even believe that after 3 years of this bullshit they were like, "Oh yes! We should totally get married!" Everyone said they were like this from day one. His daughter refused to go to the wedding because they were so jacked up and Amber's sister begged her not to marry him. Lust makes people idiots or insane, I guess.
It's definitely affected her looks. I used to think she was really attractive but seeing her in the trial, I thought she looked awful. I know lighting and makeup can work wonders but my word, she's changed. Her face looks saggy and she has terrible black bags under her eyes. Not to mention the wrinkles around her eyes. My husband said "Christ, I thought she was supposed to be beautiful" lol.
@@loulabelle5082 I don't like her especially because she's a narcissist who makes actual domestic violence victims get questioned. She is still attractive but it's what we have seen and heard come out of her mouth that makes us see her in a different light.
I am glad to see that male domestic violence in a relationship is getting the attention it deserves I suspect its alot more common than suspected. I hope both find closure regardless of the audit of a bad situation.
I had a friend who had a wife who would get drunk and go ABSOLUTELY crazy. She was a big, strong woman, too. She could easily take on probably 3 or 4 guys in a street fight. He was not nearly as big or as strong as her. My friends and I would go over their house sometimes and most nights would end up with her being locked out of the house, beating the shit out of the door and threatening to kill all of us while we waited for the cops to show up.
One day he showed up to work with two gashes in the side of his head. He kept telling everyone some kind of lame story, and then eventually we found out that his wife had hit him in the head with a hammer. With the claw end (hence the two gashes).
I haven't seen him since 2002. They were still married back then. I have no idea what happened to them or if he's even still alive. I sure hope so, but I kind of doubt it.
@@rars0n science says no, a woman can't take an average man in a fight. The strongest woman alive could be beaten by most teen males. The idea that women are as dangerous as men is a rightwing dog whistle to keep women down.
Stats are that men are nearly half domestic abuse victims
My ex and I were told in counseling before our divorce that "exiting" an argument was bad. She wanted to "just have it out", "clear the air", and I just wanted it to stop. But by leaving, I was sending bad messages - disrespect, putting up a wall between us, prolonging the argument. And yet, I've read sources that claim that this is "stonewalling" and is very bad, also. My solution? I've been divorced for 15 years and loving it.
I'm sorry you went through that. It is definitely VERY healthy to walk away from someone who is mistreating you and refuses to see things fairly, or try to control their out of control emotions. I used to never, thinking it was disrespectful to leave, but it's way better to show you won't take the toxic treatment and to only talk when they will be fair/stable.
It seems that Johnny develop a "pattern" of "exiting" an argument after having come to an understanding that the fights were "circular", essentially bizarre, with no possible resolution other than just caving to everything that Amber wanted, and essentially becoming Amber's puppy, and punching bag, and often escalated to physical violence by Amber (as well as random acts of violence, without any escalation). As he said, you reach a point where you want to leave, because you don't want another can, or whatever, thrown at your head.
Hurray for you!
There is a difference between stonewalling and stepping away to avoid escalation. Stonewalling is indeed problematic and can even be part of abusive behavior as it’s often passive aggressive and a means of controlling the relationship. Hence its bad reputation. Toxic people blur the lines between that and taking space when it is healthy to de-escalate, and try to accuse someone of the former when it in fact is the latter. Does that make sense? That is what Heard seems to be doing to Depp and sounds like your ex was similar. Glad you don’t have to deal with that anymore.
There's "clearing the air" and then there is shouting abuse and throwing histrionic tantrums. One is producive (while it can be exhausting) and one is destructive because one person is just unloading. I think your counsellor maybe should have not made such a blanket statement, because there are no hard and fast rules, ESPECIALLY when dealing with narcissists. What works for normal people is emotional suicide with a narcissist.
I watched the whole thing live and just listening to her say 'take off the ring then' and when he does she critisizes him for it, then the next moment she's yelling at him and suddenly when he composedly talks back she goes into a whisper telling him to calm down. That bit alone made me feel crazy just imagining myself in his place.
Exactly. She wanted to control his every single action where he couldn't take off his own shoes without her controlling it. He was so reasonable for most of their interactions. She would drive anybody crazy.
If you're in it, you have no idea how bad it is till you're out of it. Literally crazy-making. That's one of the most accurate descriptions ever.
You know you are listening to snippets, right? Dr Hughes gave a comprehensive explanation that lines up with literature.
In fact, in some places they train police to recognize DV this way - when you rock up at a house, notice who is calm and who is crazy. The crazy one is the victim.
@@Tamarahope77 The body language and behavior experts have said that they have never seen someone test as deceptive in as many ways as Amber Heard on the stand and they have been doing this for decades.
@@wishingb5859 That's strange. The No 1 leading expert on body language in the world, Paul Ekman, says that "it is impossible for anyone to perfect the art of lie detection...it’s important to remember that we can never know with 100% accuracy whether or not someone is lying." He goes on to say "There are many pseudoscience claims and myths about how to tell if someone is lying based on their body language." Dr Ekman claims that even most trained people like judges, police officers, drug enforcement agents, and Secret Service agents can't tell.
Good morning doc, this trial seems to be "the gift that keeps on giving". Thanks for all the work.
Lol good one! Lol thanks for the laughter! Lol 🤔❤️🇺🇸
@@elanahammer1076 Gotta love the doc !
@@oldhick9047 Lol 🤔❤️🇺🇸
Abuse is not a gift
And the most grateful recipients are Jada and Will Smith, lol!!
Wherever he asked for a few hours of space she freaked out and started crying and begging him not to go. You can tell she threw the bottle that chopped off his finger if you listen to her behavior right after the incident. They both signed paperwork that they would not talk about their relationship in public. There's another audio where he tells her repeatedly that he wants to leave her and she repeatedly says "shhhh come here I love you. Calm down. Shhhh."
Yup that sounds about right. Depp tried to be rational and get out of the toxic relationship but Heard didn’t want to be abandoned again.
Yeah, she was begging him because she was absolutely genuinely at that particular moment in time. She really meant it when she said that him walking away is pure torture for her and kills her. That's one of her personal issues - fear of abandonment. We don't know where exactly it comes from, but in her mind, even having terrible, never ending arguments is still better than just being left there. By continuing to argue, she is able to hold on to the person. That's probably something she experienced in her childhood home. It's not out of calculated malice, but because she's hurting in that way.
It can also be argued that a part of Depp somewhat enjoyed these episodes, as he was presumably unable to assert himself aggressively in a direct way, but still his contempt and aggression towards her are palpable in many recordings and text exchanges. So what he does is is this whole "I'm leaving, I'm leaving, I'm gonna go, I don't want you, look I'm leaving" thing, while he continues to STAY and rub it in the whole time. That's what gave him power over her, as opposed to the explosive situations where she was clearly more assertive and dominant than him. She's the exploding grenade type of person, he's the histrionic string puller. That is, again, part of his personality complex - he has the need to withdraw, but the narcissistic part of his injured self wants to be begged and needs people to dangle after him while he's being unapproachable.
What Depp fans refuse to realize that these two are both damaged individuals that both trigger each other in very effective and unhealthy ways. It's a typical toxic relationship, and they're still not done with it. They're duking it out in public because they separated privately, but they're not done. This is still a love that hurts and that's the reason why Depp filed this trial.
@@honigdachs. 👍👏
Unfortunately the two are toxic for each other and it's been posted in public. 😖
@@honigdachs. Very well said. I loved reading your thoughts on this
Hey Doc, I just want to say I'm grateful to be able to access your opinion on this case. I listened to the recordings in full yesterday and I pretty much agree with you entirely. It's been fascinating seeing everything unfold. It seems that AH has roughly zero evidence that supports that JD was physically abusive with her. I'm finding that both JD and AH are relatable in this case, but AH certainly comes across as childish, manipulative, and vindicative. She may whole-heartedly feel she was the victim, but she is losing traction.
Judging by the comment section, the opinion of the Jury can't be all that different...
When I was much younger (I am in my 60’s) I was in a toxic relationship in which I idolized my boyfriend and felt he was much better than I was and that I would lose him (which I of course did) and tried desperately in all kinds of wrong ways to force him to stay with me. I was out of my depth with him. I felt I had to assert myself to make myself hold on to him, to keep him my captive. I’m not proud of this history. I was able, over time, to learn from it, but only after being born again in Christ. I was immature and had very low self esteem that projected itself as over confidence and arrogance. I see a lot of my younger self in AH. I don’t excuse her, she’s wrong and abusive. I do feel sorry for her though….but the decision should definitely go in JD’s favour.
What apart from the police report and the TRO when she finally left Depp in 2016? Remember when everyone thought that Gabby Petito's interviews with the police apologising for hitting Brian Laudrie meant that she was simply missing?
@@ek7390 do you mean the report from the 4 officers who attended the penthouse call out and saw zero evidence of any violence either on AH or the home?
@@ek7390 you need to proofread what you write. I see that you're trying to make a point. Albeit, it's very unclear what that point is
I was stuck in a 7 year relationship with a narc because he wore me down and constantly reminded me of why I am lucky to have him and why no one would want me. They say stuff like that to gaslight you to devalue you, to prevent you from leaving. After we broke up, I realised the opposite was true, but took me years to rebuild my self esteem. Now I'm with an AMAZING man who is 10000x better than my ex in every way ☺️
I would say she has an extremely jealous personality, covets attention, and gets paranoid to the point of delusion when anyone is paying attention to anyone or anything that is not her.
BPD traits
What?! He's the one that was slut shaming her and degrading her for doing her job. He even wrote it in blood ffs. She's no angel but he's an insecure conservative old man who had to degrade her to make her feel bad for doing her job. An ex assistant even said she was afraid of taking roles that Johnny deemed as "whore parts" because of how he'd react. Classic manipulation and emotional abuse. They're as bad as each other.
Ryan: You've also just described Johnny too!
They verbally abused each other but she was hitting him. At least all the recording & evidence so far shows that.
YES...SHE MAKES ME SO ANGRY...💔😡😡
@@bethcook1166 same
I feel he was reacting to her abuse, not the instigator. There’s a big difference there.
How did she get the poo to the bed? 🤨 Did she use her bare hands or did she squat these questions I need answered.
@@MsChampagneSanity exactly. He was pushed and pushed. I don’t think that was his normal. People become toxic around toxic people
I have been suffering from massive panic attacks since breaking up with my borderline Personality Disorder ex-girlfriend. I met her at a silent retreat; she was physically stunning and we had some eye contact when the retreat began. Once it was over, she ran to me, hugged and French kissed me. Her first words were "You are my twin flame, followed by trust me, I'm not crazy" As she was so pretty and I was vulnerable, I just went with the flow. There were other aspects of this "deep connection", her manipulative words of being so trustworthy of this "love" that I just dived in too.
Even though we went back to our own countries, I started dating her long distance; I would go to her country to visit too. Within the first month of our relationship I learned that she had been married and divorced 3 times before aged 28, she had slept with 55 men, most of her relationships had been no longer than 6 months and prior to my b-day within that first 4 weeks, she shared with me that she had an STD. I was so blinded by the LOVE bomb and co-dependency that I ignored all these red flags. The first time I saw her rage was when I went to sleep, she came back to the room and slammed the door while yelling as I didn't wake up to have sex with her. Moreover, she would scream at her cat all the time. Other red flags were the fact that she kept talking online to other guys, didn't mention our relationship to them, etc, etc. Sex was amazing at first but it became strange as time moved on, as if she wasn't there.
Twice after flying to her country, she declined to see me while replying to my messages with a "we broke up" as I didn't share my flight schedule with her! Months later she had already cheated on me, was always flirting with guys on social media and I learned that she suffered from Borderline Personality Disorder and other mental health issues. She didn't want to go to therapy either nor was she taking any medication. Obviously within our time together, she was suicidal, the highest level of toxic abuse I have ever experienced: physical, emotional, psychological, and overall hell. I have gone back to read some of her WhatsApp messages and they are just truly demonic.
Wow. Frightening situation. Glad you made it but also remind yourself you learned a lesson you couldn't be taught except by going through it.
I had a similar experience. Consider yourself NOT alone my friend!
There are other celebrities who have been diagnosed with BPD. Pete Davidson has spoken about his diagnosis and it seems like many people who have BPD also have terrible relationships. I'm fascinated with the case at hand with Depp and Hurd. I've been a victim of narcissistic abuse and trying to get through the trauma still. My heart goes out to Johnny Depp.
She is not bipolar , she is borderline personality. Huge difference
Poor Pet Davidson I just read where he had gotten Kim Kardashian's name branded onto his chest. That's right, not just tattooed but branded. I don't know if it's true.
@@cattycorner8 it’s true. Kim said it on Ellen.
@@cattycorner8 Davidson also got a hideous Hillary Clinton tattoo on his arm following her loss in 2016.
Yeah he already has a tattoo with Kim’s name.
I dont blame him for yelling and calling her names…he was sickof her crap…id do the same. When someone constantly belittles and screams at u you eventually lose your composure
Its an actual thing called reactive abuse. I know this first hand.
Johnny has been caught screaming at people and being abusive for decades before meeting Amber Heard. Seems like you’ve conveniently forgotten that part. His alcoholism and drug addictions were partly fuel for this behavior, and it’s why he can’t get work in the entertainment industry anymore. No one wants to put up with his tantrums on set.
Hello Dr. Grande, you are presenting this case to us in a very interesting way. In this video about Johnny and Amber, I find your explanation of "borderline personality disorder" is just a diagnostic classification used for treatment. Very well explained. I will listen to the videos you present to us until the end. Thank you for your work. Best Regards. ❤👍
I loved hearing exactly that, I even paused and wrote it down!
Wow Doc! You nailed it! Amber’s behaviors were a dead ringer for my ex girlfriend’s. I stood it for as long as I could, but finally realized that it wouldn’t get better.
Thanks for the therapy session!
Can't wait for your take on Dr. Shannon Curry diagnosing Amber with BPD and histrionic personality disorder!
Much love Dr. G!💕
I am also looking forward to it
Wasn’t she brilliant
@@kevinhornbuckle I call her Mrs Armica now lol.
Same. I’m critical of the diagnosis and why Depp didn’t get evaluated. But there relationship seems so toxic.
@@Coastpsych_fi99 Depp didn't get evaluated because he didn't bring his mental health in the case. She did by saying she suffered PTSD from their relationship.
These two are keeping you busy Doc, and that’s to our benefit!
Thanks for all you do!
Dr. Grande, I see your channel as an expression of hardships suffered in the human journey and the various poor outcomes that can result. What a great way to effect widespread mental health awareness using relevant, current situations.
Excellent analysis Dr Grande. I believe Turd also was a serial adulterer, taking men back to Johnny's apartments whilst he was away filming. She is seen on security video I believe, When Johnny confronted her she called him deluded and jealous. I firmly believe Johnny is a victim and this trial will cause many people to change their opinion of both of the characters involved. Turd will be an outcast, and Johnny will be redeemed, at least I hope his name will be cleared, which is his greatest wish.
Its just a sad situation overall, showing how people "in love" can be "in hate" later. Hollywood was unfair to him I feel. Good points always. Thanks Dr G😊💚💚
@@nomadscavenger Agreed. I was just summarizing lol as people seem to like to argue with me or spin my comments. Johnny got taken in by beauty as do most men am sure. A true narcissist or mentally ill person can cause another to act totally out of character and he doesn't appear to be a violent guy. Good luck to them yes😊🧡🍀🗡⛵☠💫🙌
I think AH's neediness would drive any man insane. She seems to have drained JD so much emotionally that he was no more than an empty husk by the time she was through with him.
That was such a corny comment. The dude is a grown man....plenty of Ex Gals and should be able to handle this spoiled Brat. Was he so cunt struck he was hypnotic and helpless? He just need to get away from the Drugs and Alcihol...maybe spend more time with real friends not up and coming attention whores.
I agree! She played perfect doing things that aren’t possible to continue like taking off his shoes and having a glass of wine ready when he got home? Like who can do that daily? It was soooo exaggerated to seem perfect so he can fall in love. Notice the real drama didn’t start until directly after the shot gun wedding. She couldn’t keep up with the fantasy she built to trap him and now that they were married she let her true self show.
Agree! Add to that all of the judgmental contempt onto him from all of her supporters.
It drove her ex girlfriend insane
"Many people have many borderline personality traits without having any mental disorder." This and what you said about classification of disorders is something I wish more people without a psychology background were more aware of. These diagnoses exist to help people manage their lives like other illnesses.
Exactly! This! 👍🏾
I'm glad to see this written here. I made a comment asking about BPD but I deleted it after reading this.
True, but in order to get a diagnosis, you have to meet certain criteria for a certain amount of time. People can be depressed but not clinically depressed, they can have anxiety at times, but it’s normal. If it disrupts your life, causes relationship problems, and causes problems with work, then it’s most likely a disorder.
Obviously...
EVERYONE has traits of depression without having it. EVERYONE has traits of NPD without having it. EVERYONE has traits of autism without having it. And so forth. One or a few symptoms vaguely mentioned doesn't mean anything. A lot of people have abandonment issues. Practically everyone can be very angry sometimes. Dissociation is normal when it's a choice, we all do it. All hormonal teenagers have mood swings and unstable relationships. Anyone who doesn't want a stable relationship or is argumentative e.g. fwb obviously won't get one. Humans are very selfish creatures. Anyone who's immature infatuates over people. And so forth.
There is a check list. You have to have a certain amount checked ...yes....
To get the diagnosis...and be of a certain age as well.
Amber relentlessly poked the bear. The bear wasn’t allowed to leave and was backed into a corner. He became verbally abuses as a last resort. She broke this man. She most definitely needs a psych evaluation. Amber is a slap in the face for true DV victims. Johnny may not win his case but he has won the war.
She did. The therapist that diagnosed her is testifying right now. She says that Amber has Borderline Personality Disorder and has Histrionic Disorder. Amber looks mad. They have screen shots were she is looking at her hand with a look of contempt.
@@amaiyagrace I'm listening to her now!! She got every degree under the sun. I wonder how the cross-examination is going to be.
@@miriammanolov9135 Probably something moronic
@@amaiyagrace 😂😂😂😂😂 I can't 💀💀💀
@@miriammanolov9135 I know right. She is really in trouble now that a forensic military psychiatrist just told us she has Borderline Personality and is Histrionic. I can't wait to see cross.
Watching this during the break in Dr. Shannon Curry's testimony. As usual, Dr. Grande, you are spot on!
I'm definitely interested in hearing your thoughts on the forensic psychologist's testimony she diagnosed Amber with borderline personality disorder and histrionic personality disorder!!!
That's right, it is like Dr. Grande was predicting that diagnosis
Me too!
@@kevinhornbuckle sure but that's not enough for a diagnosis; the psychologist conducted multiple tests confirmed that amber doesn't have PTSD and met personally with amber for 17 hours
@@kevinhornbuckle Dr. Grande always says that he's not diagnosing anybody in his videos though, however I do notice how he's trying very hard to appear non biased by doing a +/- video balance about johnny; when in reality things have been going really well for johnny thus far!! also Dr. Grande seems to be following the case only recently when almost everything has been out since the UK trial so I see that as laziness on his part (agree with you on that)
This psych seems to have been hired by JD and his team. She certainly stumbled when questioned re having dinner and drinks at JD's house. She gave the diagnosis they paid her to give!
Just when my head starts spinning and I can't get a grasp on a situation, your analysis helps me see things so much more clearly. Awesome work, doc!
I've had violence enacted against me by two separate girlfriends and I wasn't abusive myself. I think this needs to be talked about more. All forms of domestic violence need to be countered and that can't happen without destigmatizing the act of admitting you've been abused, which starts with not shaming or blaming the victims.
I have always believed any one can experience domestic violence. I did with my ex husband and I hope things will change . Both male and female can be abused, its a horrible human trate , and I’m sorry you went through this. Maybe after this trial the world will open their eyes and realise men can be hurt too.
But do you see the issue with this as someone like Amber Heard can come forward and lie to get sympathy. I think it’s important to hear victims out, provide support, provide therapy, ensure their safety, educate them but we need strict legal process before condemning people. Sorry you went through abuse.❤️
I hope you can get some counseling. It helped me to find better partners.
This is all so horrible - because so many can see their own lives.
I am happy Johnny sued her (even though he is not perfect either).
People like Amber push people over the edge....deliberately.
Totally agree. I wasn't invested in either side until I heard those recordings. Then, suddenly, I realised what a manipulative narcissist she actually is! I hope she gets a reality check and learns to grow up and change her behaviour before she adversely affects her child. I really do. What an awful woman she is!
Your first sentence is so spot on! I think it’s a big part of the reason why so many people are invested in this trial & feel so emotional about it as well…I know I’m one of those people now 😅.
@@Gypsy_Soul7 omg! I definitely can't see my own life in their relationship. Thankfully I've never had one of those tumultuous type relationships. Maybe it's because I'm pretty chilled out and so is my partner. We don't fight much, it's more like I'll moan that he hasn't tidied up after himself and he'll moan that I'm too tidy. Little niggles at each other but that's it. I couldn't be in this type of relationship, it's not me at all. I like the passion to stay in the bedroom but I want the rest of my life to be chill! Lol!
I can't understand how, or why, anyone would stay in this relationship. If I was screaming at someone all the time I'd think "well, I've obviously fallen out of love with this fella because I'm behaving like I hate him"! But these people tell themselves that they love each other. Love isn't just a romantic and sexual feeling, it's the way you behave towards people. I don't know how he lived with this woman; the way she speaks to him and never lets him reply. She makes it impossible to communicate.
@@loulabelle5082 Agreed. Their relationship was beyond toxic. The only part of it that I’ve related to is being with someone that seems to bring out the “worst” in you (they seemed to do that to an insanely unhealthy degree ) & vice versa…and when you realize that you’re in this kind of relationship, it’s time to say bye, Felicia 👋🏼. I’m no relationship therapist, but IMO, they never should’ve gotten married-they remind me of Sid & Nancy with their over the top, toxic drama. It’s ultimately so sad 😞.
@@Gypsy_Soul7 I know right, why get married if you are arguing all the time? And why not do a prenup if she was so obviously unstable and vindictive. My husband has a theory about this: he says Depp realised he was getting old and had a midlife crisis and ended his marriage to the mother of his kids. Then he takes up with this young attractive "creature" (lol) not caring how well suited they were, only bothered about how good she looks on his arm. And the fact he gets to stick it in a younger model, obviously. My husband says he was trying to reclaim his youth and that he thought all the fights and raised emotion was reminiscent of being in a young person's relationship. Basically "look how passionate this relationship is! No old person behaves like this! I'm still clinging on to my youth!" It's sad, really, but probably true. And it's not only men that go through this. I remember hitting 35 and I had a mini breakdown about it. But you can't keep those years away no matter what you do, lol!
Agree with you 100%. It is heartbreaking. I really hope Johnny wins this case, but more so that they both get professional help.
I am so interested in outcome of this court case especially how this couple's relationship pattern reflects each of their attachment styles and impact of their childhood upbringings.
I'd just like to thank you for making these videos. You've been my go to guy to helping me understand the people in my personal life as well as myself for about a year now. Sometimes I'll watch a video on what can cause a person to act out, it gives me a weird since of calm when I'm dealing with an irrational person. It's nice to know I'm not causing them to act that way. Example, I let a down on her luck woman move in with me because she had cancer and family issues. I realized there was something wrong within a week because she claimed to know celebrities,she was going on a book tour for a book that hadn't been written, she was in the Guinness book of world records, 80s rock videos,she was a twin. On a daily basis she made up crazy stories but oddly she was a good roommate and a good person. I watched a few of your videos, got a general understanding of certain mental illnesses she may have. Then I watched a few videos on how to deal with those mental glitches. I told her I believed she may need counseling for her lying band attention seeking. She moved out on good terms and all was well. BTW she didn't have cancer. It crushed me because I had just finished chemo shortly before we met. Cancer was why I let a stranger move in with me. I wanted to help someone else have a second chance. I did help her just not in the way I thought I would.
I read about the latest on the trial and then wonder, “what would Dr. G say about this?” Thank you for interpreting all of this madness!!
As someone who has experienced vulnerable narcissism first hand, I feel incredibly sorry for Johnny and the picture he's painting is painfully familiar. Narcissists are disgusting.
I took this which I think it’s accurate…
The media didn’t even ask his side. They blamed his drinking as the problem (He had been sober for YEARS but the violent relationship had led him back to his addiction, his only escape) She leaked a picture of him asleep with ice cream melted on him to prove how “out of control” he was to shame him even more. All of his past partners have stepped up to support him, all saying he was nothing but kind and loving.
The best, or weirdest, part of the story is that she recorded the whole drama, which suggests that she was at least aware of what she was doing and either portrayed herself as a victim or felt victimised. All in all, a prime example of a dysfunctional complimentary relationship.
I think she recorded it because he is so well loved nobody will ever believe her. The thing is, they were already super suffering with each other for a long time and neither of them left.
You'd only record something if you genuinely believe you are in the right and know you'll use it as a method to get them hurt in the future. Bonus points because you can crop the recording so it looks the way you want it to be, even if you were the instigator, for example. I see it a lot nowadays...
It's also very strange how she ended up recording it - almost as if she knew she wanted to start a fight.
@@bunille no, you can know you’re in the wrong and be intentionally trying to frame someone.
they were recording because their therapist had recommended them to do so
@@dojagoat Some of the recordings are mutual. Others, not so much and appear rather opportunistic (when someone is at their lowest point).
I think Amber is the worst out of the two obviously no one is perfect and Johnny Depp definitely has his issues but when it comes to this situation hands down she's the rotten one based off the evidence they have shown so far in my honest opinion
Just from listening to the tapes, Johnny Depp seems like a good guy; someone not unpleasant to spend time around. Amber Heard, on the other hand, behaved in ways that would send me running far and fast.
This is what happens when older men marry for arm candy.
@@originalhgc agree 💯
@No'Am 15 facts 💯 😂
@@rubyparchment5523 Is it really though? Is that what this is all about? Because I have a strong suspicion that any mate of Amber Heard, of any age relative to her own, is going to have a very similar experience. But maybe you can point to real life (not movie fiction) examples of this happening to other older men/"eye candy" couples.
I am so glad you are doing these, I have a passing interest in the case but the thought of sitting thru all the footage and the extremely one-sided narratives around it is rather off-putting. Good to have such a thoughtful and insightful commentator as yourself to do the legwork for me.
It would be interesting to see how this case brings awareness to men being victims of DV. Heard wanted to bring awareness to women in DV situations and this might turn the focus to males which is equally important. No one should suffer DV, no one.
Also, his 14 year relationship with Vanessa Paradis was SO different than the sham 18 month marriage with Heard. Johnny and Vanessa were friends with similar values and they continue to be friends after they ended their romantic relationship. They were never married but were committed to co-parenting their children together. In my opinion marriage and traditional family life is better on the level of morality (I’m a Christian), but by all evidence that relationship was peaceful and harmonious. I don’t think Johnny became a different person. He knew how to have a give-and-take, respectful relationship. He unfortunately fell in with a predator and had no idea what he was getting into after 14 years of peace with Vanessa. He was blind-sided, I believe.
Thank you for your continued analysis of this trial, Dr. Grande!
Indeed, please continue as the trial moves forward!
There is a bitter sweet irony in the resolution that Johnny finds justice and revives his public relationships on his riper age in life, while Amber has most definitely nose dived her own carreer into the ground at a relatively young age with so many prospects. The sweet taste of equality.
well that would be the best outcome.😁👍🏾.keeping fingers crossed🤞🏾🔥
Thank you for covering this so fairly. There is so much wrong wrong in Heard’s absurd claims it’s hard to know where to start. It would be laughable if not such a dire a situation. For one, no real guitarist would cut off their own finger. Especially not one with a life long passion for music who uses it as a form of therapy. As an actual d.v. survivor, it’s clear who is the victim & is absolutely is not Amber…
Love this, Dr. Grande 👏👏👏 can’t wait to hear what you think of the forensic psychologist’s testimony today.
The therapist who diagnosed her says in her current testimony says that Amber has Borderline Personality and is Histrionic. The therapist is testifying right now. Before they went to lunch she said that Amber is Borderline Personality and Histrionic.
The forensic psychologist testified today. I would love to hear your assessment of her assessment.
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I think the most striking thing is how Johnny would try to retreat from conflicts while Amber would insult him for doing so. That's some real bully behavior on her behalf. I don't put much weight into her statements when she says stuff like "you're killing me" just because Johnny is talking about getting a divorce. To me that just sounds like emotional manipulation. She has destroyed her own reputation.
I have never seen a whole movie with Johnny in it and don't "know" him so am commenting just on what I see on the news regarding his and Amber's relationship. I was in a dv situation and can assure you, getting away from the person who is violent was uppermost in my mind! It seemed JD tried repeatedly to escape AH. She seems volatile and can't be kind to him. I hope the jury sees it for what it is, HE is the victim here.
@Lorraine, his filmography is immense, most of my favorites I saw when I was young: Secret Window, Sleepy Hollow, Benny and Joon, Edward Scissorhands--they always make you think.
Lol he’s an alcoholic druggie narcissistic sociopath. Abused his entourage for decades before he met Amber Heard. He had no issues cheating on and leaving Vanessa, he wasn’t ‘stuck’ with Amber not was he trying to escape. You are a fool.
@@Cougelly1999 many of his characters are very thought provoking. There always seems to be an underlying message in there.
Wow, Dr. Grande, you are right on!!! You have given an excellent rundown of the situation, AND still managed to throw some humor in there :)
Your analyses of this trial are excellent! The theory you presented in this video makes perfect sense. I hope you continue to cover the trial.
Thank you so much Dr. Grande.❤️
I really appreciate your intelligent and educated understanding of this situation, Dr. Grande. Thank you!
I totally agree with Dr. Grande's assessment and why Johnny decided to file a law suit against her. He knows he will probably not win but at least his side of the story is being revealed. I lived with a man who was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder who was willing to be abusive to gain control when he thought I was going to leave. I endured many years trying to survive for my own reasons. Basically I thought he was going to lose control and kill me and my daughter. He conditioned me for years through systematic emotional, verbal and physical abuse to believe it. When my daughter turned 18 and I knew he could no longer take her, I escaped and left. I know first hand the toxic, destructive behavior and when I started listening to the the tapes of Amber going off the rail at Johnny, I knew exactly what she was about and what Johnny was going through. If I could have overpowered and used violence to fight back against my ex I would have. I had contemplated many times killing him but because of my fear of what would happen to my daughter I didn't do it. I am a totally non violent person never even spanked my daughter but that is what he drove me too. I also tried to retreat when he went into a rage, but he would follow me or not allow me to leave so he could continue his abuse. Borderlines are the most toxic, damaging people to ever engage in a relationship with. In the beginning when I first met him, he did not display his true self but put on a mask of what he thought I wanted him to be. It's all a trick to manipulate and seduce you, It's a trap. And Amber Heard did the same thing to Johnny, To me, she is fortunate that Johnny is not a violent man, because if he were, she would of been beaten by him or perhaps even killed. Borderlines will drive you to the point of insanity almost knowing when to pull back before they drive you over the edge, only to calm down, tell you they love you and then start the process all over again. It is insanity. I feel sorry for Johnny and I'm glad he is suing her so the truth of what she is and what she did to him is being revealed.
Thank you, Todd. I feel like this is extremely strong analysis. The dynamic you described near the end gets to the heart of what is so confusing to deal with for people caught up in it. I think that Johnny himself said that he became extremely confused in the situation. It rings so many bells here for me.
Thank you Dr Grande! I was waiting for this one! I have Bpd, and when I heard their audio recording… I was having flashbacks to my past bpd behaviours! Treatment does work, and this vicious illness can diffuse, as it takes time discipline, self and social awareness to catch when your in a episode!
Thank you, Dr. G for your calm and orderly demeanor with your analysis. This situation is a horrible mess and I appreciate your presentation.
Nice evaluation. The stark fact is, he was the one who walked away with a serious injury, not her.
And I also want to add having lived with an abuser for 20 years, men who abuse women don't start in their 50's. If Johnny was an abusive male, he would have a track record. There would be other women from his past relationships who would come forward to collaborate her testimony. Johnny has had many relationships and several of these women have been interviewed and they have all stated that he was never violent towards them and Johnny has consistently used alcohol and drugs since he was very young. I'm not condoning his use, but he didn't start to suddenly drink and use and then become violent. He has used during all of his past relationships and no evidence of violence. That to me is more proof that Amber is a manipulative, shallow, abusive, lying little gold digger. I hope this ruins her career because she deserves it.
You nailed it Dr Grande…..your assessment I believe is spot on!
A few minutes ago, it was confirmed by a forensic psychology that she suffers from bpd and hpd.
9:34 Well, you didn’t mention that moment when the defense lawyer objected hearsay to his own question.
Way to break it down Dr. Grande. Seems like individuals in the entertainment industry get surrounded by teams of “yes men.” No one is bold enough to tell them the truth. When you’re constantly surrounded by people validating your bad behavior it seems to take a sizable jolt in order to finally come to a realization. They were definitely toxic together. Hopefully this whole incident causes them to take a hard look at themselves and do the hard but important work necessary to break free of these negative habits/behaviors.
Thank you Dr Grande for continuing to cover this case. There is a lot going on and I and many of your subscribers and viewers appreciate your thoughts. It is going to get more interesting when Amber takes the stand. Her depositions in the other case we're very telling.
Amber got diagnosed with BPD today by an expert forensic psychologist and Amber's legal team was unable to really refute this diagnosis because of how thorough the analysis was, having to attack character and dishonestly impeach the witness. Everything she described about BPD and how it manifests in intimate relationships perfectly tracked with Amber's observed behavior so far in this case, and her statements about how the arguments can be cyclical and how disengaging is perceived as a threat lined up so well with Johnny's and the other witness' testimony. Her testimony about Amber's exaggeration of symptoms and attempt to game the test was also damaging to Amber's credibility as a witness. A lovely lovely witness for the Depp team.
Very good analysis, Dr. Todd. It's a far more common interpersonal dynamic than people are aware of, I believe with a natural insecure attachment from the get go....and so many people suffer in a bubble (without awareness), on either side, sadly. I too hope this brings more awareness. BPD is treatable, yes....but when that covert or comorbid narcissism and histrionic manifests in the dynamic, that's a fast and turbulent slide into the rabbit hole for everyone involved in the relationship.
Amber appeared, by all accounts, to be far more overt in her manifestation than covert -- and that is on display, even triggering for those that present with BPD, SA and/or have been, or participated in these kinds of relational dynamics, especially when the NPD traits and tactics of manipulation (and all the tools in that tricksters bag) start to bleed into events. It's painful to watch, all of it, but I do hope people are watching, becoming more aware and are talking about this.
Johnny's ready to heal and pick up the pieces of his life, and I believe he has greater insight now of how these dynamics commingle, I think he might have sought the truth long ago, in fact. I don't know if Amber is at the point of taking any personal responsibility or seeking the help she needs. I think its going to be an extended ride for her....
Tragic an experience, but this is life's reality for far too many. I think Johnny is deeper in his lifes meaning and purpose and philosophy....and will thus make peace with this - continue to incorporate this learned knowledge and awareness into his core being, and outward through his creative works and expression -- for many years to come.
One of the biggest hurdles to moving forward for anyone having suffered, participated or having contributed to these dynamics is walking with the shame, and denying oneself compassion and self love. Let it go, your newfound awareness is an opportunity to dance anew.
Love to you all, thee that suffer. If you are one that presents, seek help from a trained professional.....and hopefully, those that practice will really take heed of these relational and individual dynamics and deploy realistic skills and therapies to help those suffering acknowledge, educate themselves and overcome.
CBT and DBT are excellent learning tools and skills practices, but they are not enough. In fact, it is sadly watching the dynamic play out in front of our eyes as a case study, that has really engaged people and brought awareness to others, and our own behaviours. One can visualize what they normally only think and feel in isolation.
Can't wait to hear your analysis of today's testimony from Dr. Curry!
I have a family member who has BPD. My ex-husband was BPD and antisocial. My expience is it is SO difficult getting away from them. Amber's behavior is VERY familiar to me. Though Johnny is not without fault i hope the jury sees thru her crap.
I'm fearing we will be hearing that this woman has critically injured someone in the future. Beware, potential new partners of Amber H.
And her baby with her lesbian partner
@@jakebe4915 I agree I have been thinking about that poor child since I found out she came into existence
There are people out there that want to be in a relationship where they are the submissive.
Heard wants to be in relationships where her partner is really rich, e.g., Elon.
mexican Valentino Lanos was Amber ex boyfriend! oposites polars of personality however the couple separated amd Lamod i believe he expressed relief of the separation hinting the relationship was toxic! so maybe you can find here what your looking for!
@@corinnefogarty7880 Elon dating Heard after buying Twitter, must mean he is really aching for an irradiated dose of chemical toxicity
He stayed because of childhood trauma perpetrated by his mother, because he did not want to "fail," and because he was likely turned on by the intensity and "passion" of the relationship (even though it also made him sick). Add AH's youth and beauty to the mix and there you have it. Essentially, he's a middle aged dude who lost his wife and kids (for whatever reasons). He desperately wanted a do-over (midlife crisis yada yada) and thought AH was his chance. He didn't bargain for all of the damage she would bring to his life.
It sounded like initially (during the honeymoon phase, I guess) , everything went okay. But then cracks started to form. JD should have split at the first sign something was wrong, but I guess he loved her and wanted to make it work. Good old fashioned notion. But very few people stick around any more. Life is too short and when someone appears to have psychological problems, it will go untreated and get worse unless that person is committed to getting their personality disorders treated. JD should have surrounded himself with people who cared about him and then listened to them when they gave their opinions.
If that were true he wouldn’t have cheated on and left Vanessa Paradis - he didn’t ‘lose them’ as you claim. He cheated and he left. Your theory just fell apart, boom.
@@ALT-vz3jn I have no knowledge of why JD "cheated," if he did so at all (before this trial I knew very little about him). Regardless, people are compelled to cheat on their spouses for a variety of reasons, some conscious, some unconscious, and they often regret doing so. Whatever JD did to contribute to the demise of his marriage with Paradis, it stands to reason that he would feel like he "lost" her and that incarnation of his family as a result. People make mistakes, and people want redemption and second chances (if not with the person they lost, then with someone new). Life is not so black and white.
@@nicetalkintoya yup the relationship with madame Paradis was quite intense involving arguing intoxicated in front of french neighboors or at the restaurant
I really waiting for his other trial cause he is really not mister nice guy
Excellent analysis!!!!!!! You questioned why Johnny stayed with Amber. Later testimony indicated 1)he did not want to fail and let everyone down, 2) he feared Amber's threats of suicide (as his mother made an attempt after Johnny's father left her). Thank you for giving such a concise analysis of all this craziness!!!
If Amber Heard truly is Borderline then her lashing out at Johnny Depp in the press was predictable. The worst thing a person can do in the eyes of someone who has BPD is to leave them. They are most afraid of abandonment.
I empathize with Depp. We are the same age and while his upbringing seems to have been substantially more turbulent than mine there are some similarities there too. I never felt the need to self-medicate as he has; nevertheless, I have taken my turn at trying to remain in a dysfunctional marriage. It doesn't work. ... I feel bad for the guy, I really do.
She has bpd
@@janpierzchala2004 Possibly, though I haven't watched enough of the trial coverage to form a solid opinion. Besides it wouldn't matter even if I had. I'm not a clinician and therefore I'm unqualified to diagnose anyone's mental health; esp. that of people I've never met.
@@johnnolen8338 A qualified psychologist presented results of Amber's recent examination, surprisingly. Yesterday in court. Earlier it was just a hypothesis and a more general one: cluster b for sure I thought. I can see it wasn't a major news that diagnosis yesterday. Greetings
@@janpierzchala2004 Earlier this morning I heard a news report saying that Amber Heard had been officially diagnosed with Histrionic Personality Disorder, which is from Cluster B certainly but I don't know enough about clinical psychology to tell whether this is accurate. And like I said, I've never met Johnny Depp or Amber Heard. I'm not going to take sides in a fight that is absolutely none of my business. Thank you for the insightful discussion though.
@@johnnolen8338 Very disappointing reporting there. Amber diagnosed with Borderline and Histrionic PD.
How can it be considered ‘verbal abuse’ when they were sent to a friend and would have remained secret between them if not for her legal team. 🙄 ignoring that revenge fantasies from those being abused are very common and for the most part totally harmless venting from those who feel impotent in their frustration. She certainly wasn’t ‘abused’ by them.
Thankyou, Dr Grande for being fair and balanced with regards to this case. Not many people like Miss Heard, I'm not a fan myself. It's easy for a lot of people to 'hate' on people who are deemed 'the bady'. I am guilty of doing the same. Especially in today's world with social media etc.
My son's father recently stayed in an abusive relationship for almost half a year. He knew it was bad around two months in, but he was afraid that if he left her she'd poison their mutual friends against him or claim that he was abusive. He ended up having to end the relationship when she started hitting herself one day,and sure enough, she told all their friends he beat her. I was with this guy for 8 years, he never raised a hand to me, and I knew all of his ex's (small town) and they're all still friendly with him. He'd never hit a woman. But a lot of their mutual friends believed her and she really damaged his relationship around town. It's really frightening how easily a woman can damage a man's reputation in that manner and it hurts real victims of domestic abuse.
Can't wait for your video on Dr. Curry's testimony!
Johnny is the victim in my case and Amber needs to pay up every penny
i couldn't agree more with your analysis concerning this topic but more importantly -- you brought a few points full circle for me and made me realize things I had not considered before now. Although the main focus is the relationship between these 2 ~ it seems clear to me that JD faced an insane amount of conflict internally...he did not agree with or take pride in who he was becoming but he still likely had good intentions ~ whereas AH seemed to be her own biggest fan all along - with the sole intent of 'winning' and not giving 2 f%s how low or far she would have to go.
Wow.
Excellent analysis. Brilliant, Dr. Grande. Thanks for making sense of this disastrous dynamic. Keep asking myself, why, Johnny why did you marry this girl? I just hope Depp's lawyers see this video.
There is a video out there outlining the similarities between AH and the character Amy from Gone Girl (it’s chilling, but really illustrates how far a grudge/manipulation can go, especially when someone taps into the victim culture)
That's a really interesting analysis Dr. G.
I can't stand Amber Heard anymore. I find her so disingenuous, angry and mean. Whatever Johnny Depp's faults and troubles I do not see him as a violent person, and he seems to be a very kind man in general. I think Amber's violence and meanness is horrid to behold, but I do feel pity for her - the terror she has of being abandoned must be hellish. I hope that Johnny Depp wins this case. I think he deserves it after all she's done to him. I do hope both of them can heal from their troubles, though I wonder how much Amber can heal while she remains so blind to how awful her behaviour is.
i dont know. my family gave me up into the caresystem when i was 12, i literally lost everything.been through alot of abuse. im diagnosed with borderline and ptsd and bipolar disorder, also bulimia. i have horrible abandoment and attachment issues. yet i would never be able to do something like that. im pretty sure its always been about fame, getting bigger roles, the money he payed for her friends and family - remember noone had to pay rent - and more. its kind of sickening how much i read here about abandoment issues, poor amber. lol. she is intelligent and priviledged. theres nothing known about her experiencing abuse in her life. there is such thing as people who are cunning and calculated. plus she did alot of drugs. on her own wedding on mdma ? forreal ? you would want to take that day in with all of your senses, when you truely love someone. i simply dont think she ever loved him.
@@MH-ys2gd I agree with you, her actions are not justified by her emotional problems. And I question too whether she ever really loved him. I think she uses successful men like Johnny to further her career. I'm sorry for all you've gone through, M H, and at such a young age too ♥.
One of my male friends got sucked into a relationship like this with a girl with borderline personality. She had schizoaffective disorder as well. She was awful and they lost custody of their 2 month old because of her behavior. She called the cops on him all the time when he stood up for himself or she badgered him to his breaking point.
Yeah, the cops get there and think it's the guy!!
@@janebraun4482 their marriage counselor told her to hug him more because it's his love language, so she started withholding them instead. Then when he had begged and begged for a hug after a bad day at work he punched a hole in the wall. There are other things too. She's just insane and doesn't care.