He's also done a ton of splitting ones instead of bumping a five into a six and splitting that into two threes. I get that sometimes as the thief you want low rolls, but he then uses them in slots that could've benefited from a three.
The egg does that so much. Could duplicate the 6s and deal 12 damage? Ooooorrrrrr.... could duplicate the 6s, turn them into 2s and deal 6 damage! He just gets a little bit of tunnel vision.
He was able to make a build that was neat and worked well, which overall is all that really mattered in this run. but small mistakes like this will certainly cost him many runs in the future.and we will all be screaming at our sceens collectively.
Puts in 2 twos, item says "Sets all dice to 2", sets all dice to 4 instead. Seems like a bug to me (seems like it added the twos together and set all dice to that value)
It definitely did. It turned his twos into fours even though it said "set all dice values to 2" rip the run of a century Edit: at least he didn't die lol
22:00 My dude really has to stop and think if 3+1 is better than 1+1? This seems like a game that will make him galaxy brain himself into some hilariously dumb decisions. This will be a fun series.
I was just thinking the same thing. Seemed like a bug when he put 2 2's in and the description says "change all dice to 2" and got all 4's even though that's not how it works in the first place
idk it seems like at 38mins in it should have turned all his dice into 2's instead of 4's. Once he had the two 2's in there it even said 'set all dice to 2' and then proceeded to turn all his dice into 4's.... There was no indication in the description that it would add the 2's and make 4's....
@@Mnidun he knows better than to not assume it was his fault. Even when it's not lmao. Too bad, it ruined a cool synergistic run :/ Edit: NVM he still managed to win extremely luck
You played super well for a portion of this episode. The skeleton key pickup was an unexpected stroke of brilliance. You saw that it'd work, I thought it'd be bad. Upgraded it was unreal.
Loving this series. Got the game this morning because I saw you playing it, having a blast myself and this one was of the most fun synergies I’ve seen in a game in a long time, great episode.
NL your current series' are the best they've ever been. dicey dungeons, streets or rogue, mario maker and isaac is just all gold. This is an amazing new edition
lol, the poison doesn't even adhere to that in my game. It damages for the highest its been, within that application period, every turn until gone. So stacking to 5, gets 25 damage, instead of 15. It makes you think twice about adding more poison if you didn't for a turn or two. Adding 2 poison after its dropped to one, makes the new damage per turn, three. Ya see. Pretty cool I think.
I think you undervalue poison, it's similar to Slay the Spire, 3 poison is actually 6 damage just over 3 turns. Even on turn 2 it's 5 damage which is more than just putting three 1's into dagger. Upgraded dagger is different obviously but you get the point. Detonator makes poison really good too even with just an upgraded poison needle. Good play either way.
I didn't say he didn't know how it worked, I was just reinforcing the fact of why it's good. I watched his live stream of this game and this run and both times he's undersold the value of poison.
@@robbie8407 he might under value poison, but I also wonder if the thiefs boss is always muscle girl. Or at least always her for that quest or module or whatever it's called. I mean he got her on the stream and in this run. She seems a good counter to poison.
Fight #2: "we need an odd die to get 3 shield, we have an un-split 1 and a 3. Let's not think about this too much and use the 3 to get the shield." Never change, NL
I would like to get on my soapbox and say "End the splitting and duplicating of 1s!" Honestly you are getting one extra damage out of doing so...it's usually not gonna make much difference. I keep hearing: "as a thief you want 1s" no you can use 1s as the thief more efficiently than other classes but you want 3s because...and hear me out here: 3s are 3x bigger than 1s and even 2s are twice as big as 1s in dagger and it makes a big difference!
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I was kinda worried about egg after last video with its relative lack of misplays. Had he cracked his egg? Who knew. This video helped assure me it's still NL
Doesn't poison do more damage as it stacks up? 3 damage first turn, lose one, 5 damage next turn, lose one, 7 damage next turn etc. If you spend 3x 1 dice each turn, the stacks should go up fast, and you'll do a ton of damage - and the rest can go to dagger.
Egg, when it says Odd, just throw a 1 there. On that early Magician fight, you lost out of Turn 1 damage by throwing the 3 into the shield and throwing 1s into dagger when you could have thrown the 1 into shield and your 3 deals 2 more dagger damage. Oh man, and the bad math plays of not using sixes for attack, instead transforming it into a 3 to deal 4 damage instead of 6. Eggggggggg
For anyone wondering if they had seen this before, the one previously uploaded was a twitch VOD and this is a specifically recorded ep. Presumably, NL uploaded the wrong file, unsure about that tho.
In the second episode and you already can see people criticize every non perfect play that NL does, great job guys. I really hope that this don't become Sekiro 2.0
@@landon8952 well, people were very mad at NL for not playing the game in the best way possible and so they started to harass him to a level that made NL not want to play the game anymore
Alright, so I'd need to go back and track it, but remember the 4 you cut the value in two of against the final boss fight? I think you put *that* two into the skeleton key, which made them all into 4s which... I didn't know that was a thing, I don't think anyone did, allow me to go and check! OK! tracking done, you duplicated the 4 that became a two, and then put both of the duplicated blocks into the skeleton key, I think THAT'S what happened, since skeleton key is supposed to set things to the dice put in, and that block was technically a 4 that was halved.... a very strange interaction, to say the least, not one you could have expected. Despite all the other mistakes you make, that one isn't on you, that's for sure.
I'm 99% sure that's a bug. In other situations on a certain other character, there are multiple equips that say "split the value in half", and none interact like that. It seems to me that the game for some reason tracked the two's as four's still, which is really really weird.
@@314Marvin What I find weird about it if true is that it is referencing the value of the die itself to inform what each dice should be set to when the weakened version is specifically statically defined to set all dice to 2. Like I get how it could happen - you're basically mimicking the behavior of the original version of the equipment by doing so. Just that in this instance not hard coding it seems to have introduced a bug due to an unintended side effect of another interaction.
Dang, the Skeleton Key- description was staight-up wrong. It turned all your dice into four when it specifically stated it would turn them into two. 100% not your fault, and probably a bug.
31:10 that painful moment when NL decides that 6 damage is a better option than 12, the number of times NL choses to chuck dice into daggers and completely ignore the much better option being provided to him from the enemy hurts. on another note, for the love of god NL, you dont have to start with skeleton key, you can use those high damage dice before you buff the rest of them you are legitimately only hindering yourself with that.
2:48 Egg waste a 3 to shield instead of using the 1 for the same effect. p.s. also there is almost one mistake every single battle. As NL the Egglord himself said: "What else is new?" :D
Just a friendly comment reminding everyone that misplays happen to everyone, especially when you have a self imposed "I'm making a video so I don't want to take too long" timer going on in the back of your head!
38:15 dicey dungeons LITERALLY gaslighting innocent streamer
It's tragic
Let's face it, NL was *FAR* from innocent that game.
.....though it was like being framed for murder after shoplifting.
I.. Put the wrong number... *_I PUT THE 4 wHaT iS wRonG wItH me?!_* gets me every time, he literally only had 1 4 to begin with 🤣🤣
31:10
Egg decides not to use the two 6s on Two Handed Sword to do 12 damage, and instead turns them into 2s so he can do 3 damage twice.
Do not question the egg math. Your blood pressure will kill you long before nl will notice his mistake.
He's also done a ton of splitting ones instead of bumping a five into a six and splitting that into two threes. I get that sometimes as the thief you want low rolls, but he then uses them in slots that could've benefited from a three.
@@Szanth it doesnt always split a 6 into 2 threes, it can be 5 and 1 or 4 and 2 aswell, so that was fine
I can't explain how perfect this comment is, I'll have to try and keep it in mind before my hair falls out
The line after that... basically: "why use 2 dice to do 12 damage, when we can use 4 dice to do the same!?!"
>if we set all dice to two we're gonna lose the three
Not if you use it first NL buddy
he makes this mistake a few times, I was sat there going... "JUST USE THE 3!" it was frustrating but it's the egg so I've kinda come to expect it xD
The egg does that so much. Could duplicate the 6s and deal 12 damage? Ooooorrrrrr.... could duplicate the 6s, turn them into 2s and deal 6 damage!
He just gets a little bit of tunnel vision.
He was able to make a build that was neat and worked well, which overall is all that really mattered in this run. but small mistakes like this will certainly cost him many runs in the future.and we will all be screaming at our sceens collectively.
@@beanthedestroyr6950 very true. Its no Biggie because it's just episode 1 now, but this could've probably lost him the run in high tier
38:18 The gam Bugged dude. Wasn´t your fault
I think?
Puts in 2 twos, item says "Sets all dice to 2", sets all dice to 4 instead. Seems like a bug to me (seems like it added the twos together and set all dice to that value)
It definitely did. It turned his twos into fours even though it said "set all dice values to 2" rip the run of a century
Edit: at least he didn't die lol
@@ResentItPlays "Its not a bug if you call it Hidden Mechanic"
-This game´s dev, probably (2019)
@Varler it stays in the same spot every time. Not sure what you are talking about
@Varler wtf are you talking about they stay in the same position unless you rearrange them
The last mistake with the 4s was actually a bug, since the game says "Set all dice to 2"and not "Set all dice to [ ]"
Diogo Nascimento Yeah I saw that too
Even if it said that, it also says « needs 2 » so NL definitely could not have put the 4 in it
"Perhaps I've learned my valuable lesson about playing too quickly" Good joke NL.
10 months and 60 episodes of Monster Train later, this remains one of NL's biggest lie/joke.
38:17 Not NL's misplay. That was the developer's misplay (a bug).
That feel when NL is the actual final boss of his own run.
22:00 My dude really has to stop and think if 3+1 is better than 1+1?
This seems like a game that will make him galaxy brain himself into some hilariously dumb decisions.
This will be a fun series.
You mean like instead of doing 6 + 6 he does 2+1 + 2+1?
i was thinking the same im lowkey gonna get triggered
Not gonna lie, this shit really triggered me 😂
Is this replacing "Northernlion Tells A Dirty Joke [New Camcorder Test]"?
God I hope not
The lore doesn't get much deeper than that.
It better not.
Pretty sure in this one there wasn't a single battle without an egghead play...
Your baldness has truly achieved perfection
Great run, but you can use your dice BEFORE using skeleton key if they will benefit you more lol
Dicey Dungeon is lit
Isaac, mario maker, dicey dungeons, and streets of rogue is the most stacked lineup of NL videos I've experienced in a while
Yo, True story... extremely stacked lineup
Is Skeleton Key- broken or am I reading the description wrong?
I was just thinking the same thing. Seemed like a bug when he put 2 2's in and the description says "change all dice to 2" and got all 4's even though that's not how it works in the first place
Yeah it seems completely fucked, which is funny because NL immediately assumed it was his fuckup.
idk it seems like at 38mins in it should have turned all his dice into 2's instead of 4's. Once he had the two 2's in there it even said 'set all dice to 2' and then proceeded to turn all his dice into 4's.... There was no indication in the description that it would add the 2's and make 4's....
@@Mnidun he knows better than to not assume it was his fault. Even when it's not lmao. Too bad, it ruined a cool synergistic run :/
Edit: NVM he still managed to win extremely luck
it bugged - probably because he turned a 4 into a 2 beforehand which he then used
Yeah... this needs to be an actual series
BIGhappyG33 id watch the hell out of 500 eps of this
We'll see by the end of an episode of each character.
I think Ryan would need to overclock his brain for this to work out longterm.
@@DoctorShroom baba is dice
You played super well for a portion of this episode. The skeleton key pickup was an unexpected stroke of brilliance. You saw that it'd work, I thought it'd be bad. Upgraded it was unreal.
38:19 I guess it's a bug because the weakened skeleton key needed 2 twos to set all dice to two but it transformed all into fours
Really enjoying this series
Loving this series. Got the game this morning because I saw you playing it, having a blast myself and this one was of the most fun synergies I’ve seen in a game in a long time, great episode.
38:15 isn't even NL's fault the equipment is just worded weirdly
No it should have turned all dice to 2 but instead turned them all to 4s. Looks like a bug
yeah, the wording is the same syntax as every other form skeleton key, but has a different result
I think it was a bug because it read the 4 that was lowered to a 2 as the previous value, four
I really really really hope this becomes a long-lasting series. I love this game and NL's commentary.
Not your fault on the last fight. It said "Two twos and set all dice to 2", and yet all your dice got set to 4
I’m enjoying this sooooo much!! Such a fun new series and eggdad is one masterful math genius big brain boi
I love the face cam, it has made every NL misplays and seeing his reaction 69x better and makes me laugh everytime
Love it! Should be a series!
NL your current series' are the best they've ever been. dicey dungeons, streets or rogue, mario maker and isaac is just all gold. This is an amazing new edition
This game would be great for mobile
Though I would be like those candy crush mom´s by the end of the first week
ChBrahm Game's made by Terry Cavanaugh, aka the creator of Super Hexagon. That game was crack on my phone in high school.
@@dereknosbisch733 I have no idea what that game is but if its the same dude that made Dicey Dungeons I can certainly believe it was indeed crack
I'm praying there's a Switch release. This game and a long flight would be a perfect combo.
@@ChBrahm If you don't know him from Super Hexagon, you might know him as one of the people behind VVVVVV if that gives you some idea.
Both Super Hexagon and VVVVVV are on mobile - there's definitely a possibility!
18:00 I like how Ryan knows the formula for series summation by heart, but needs to double check 5 x 2 = 10.
lol, the poison doesn't even adhere to that in my game. It damages for the highest its been, within that application period, every turn until gone. So stacking to 5, gets 25 damage, instead of 15. It makes you think twice about adding more poison if you didn't for a turn or two.
Adding 2 poison after its dropped to one, makes the new damage per turn, three. Ya see. Pretty cool I think.
11:26 holy crap. egg actually learned triangular numbers from Slay.
I think you undervalue poison, it's similar to Slay the Spire, 3 poison is actually 6 damage just over 3 turns. Even on turn 2 it's 5 damage which is more than just putting three 1's into dagger.
Upgraded dagger is different obviously but you get the point. Detonator makes poison really good too even with just an upgraded poison needle.
Good play either way.
He knows how it works. He even says the equation outloud in this video while thinking about how much damage it would deal. (N(N+1))/2 so he knows
I didn't say he didn't know how it worked, I was just reinforcing the fact of why it's good. I watched his live stream of this game and this run and both times he's undersold the value of poison.
@@robbie8407 he might under value poison, but I also wonder if the thiefs boss is always muscle girl. Or at least always her for that quest or module or whatever it's called. I mean he got her on the stream and in this run. She seems a good counter to poison.
Needed a series like this from NL!! This game is awesome!
Watching this run come together is beautiful
loving the dicey dungeons stuff!
Gotta say, that snowman kill was real dandy
Life lesson number one learn from your mistakes
Northerlion: I think not
29:00 egg hit with the three first then change them all to twos.
Yo Nl please make more of this is quickly becoming my favorite series
Love this series so far NL went full big brain and over heated
Fight #2: "we need an odd die to get 3 shield, we have an un-split 1 and a 3. Let's not think about this too much and use the 3 to get the shield." Never change, NL
I think it's the best Skeleton Key strat I've ever seen. Excellent.
I would like to get on my soapbox and say "End the splitting and duplicating of 1s!" Honestly you are getting one extra damage out of doing so...it's usually not gonna make much difference. I keep hearing: "as a thief you want 1s" no you can use 1s as the thief more efficiently than other classes but you want 3s because...and hear me out here: 3s are 3x bigger than 1s and even 2s are twice as big as 1s in dagger and it makes a big difference!
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this series is great so far!
Game seems exactly like the sort of thing I want. Art isn't my thing but mechanically it's beautiful.
Welcome to Dicey Dungeon, where every turn is a new Pot Play.
I was kinda worried about egg after last video with its relative lack of misplays. Had he cracked his egg? Who knew.
This video helped assure me it's still NL
@@snoboreddotcom he barely misplayed, the game just actually broke near the end
@@Mikko858 Always a pleasure to see due diligence put in.
Doesn't poison do more damage as it stacks up? 3 damage first turn, lose one, 5 damage next turn, lose one, 7 damage next turn etc. If you spend 3x 1 dice each turn, the stacks should go up fast, and you'll do a ton of damage - and the rest can go to dagger.
I don't have as many hours in my day to catch up on the content you post per day. I love you.
Egg, when it says Odd, just throw a 1 there. On that early Magician fight, you lost out of Turn 1 damage by throwing the 3 into the shield and throwing 1s into dagger when you could have thrown the 1 into shield and your 3 deals 2 more dagger damage.
Oh man, and the bad math plays of not using sixes for attack, instead transforming it into a 3 to deal 4 damage instead of 6. Eggggggggg
31:20 how is doing 12 damage with two sixes worse than doing 6 damage using the two's?
Liking the series so far
>Any odd dice gives 3 block
>'i think we want three block'
>Puts the three in there instead of the one
>any dice breaks shock
>Equipment only accepts 3 or less for use
>'Let's use this 1 to break the shock'
>Leaves useless four in dice tray
For anyone wondering if they had seen this before, the one previously uploaded was a twitch VOD and this is a specifically recorded ep. Presumably, NL uploaded the wrong file, unsure about that tho.
Man NL is coming out with bangers! I love it. Thanks eggman!
Keep this series going!
I was impressed with NL's math skills until he had to sit and think about whether 3 was greater than 1
I mean, applying poison 3 times seems like it's objectively better in most situations than doing raw damage; at least without an upgraded Dagger.
In the second episode and you already can see people criticize every non perfect play that NL does, great job guys. I really hope that this don't become Sekiro 2.0
K9 What happened with Sekiro?
@@landon8952 well, people were very mad at NL for not playing the game in the best way possible and so they started to harass him to a level that made NL not want to play the game anymore
At 18:04 you can literally hear the clockwork working in the Eggbrain
Love the new series NL!
when he didn't split the 6 at the end... I felt that one... deep down, i felt it.
Yo you got screwed at 38:12, absolutely a bug in the game. But this is a brand new gem from a beloved developer, I have no doubt he will address it.
Alright, so I'd need to go back and track it, but remember the 4 you cut the value in two of against the final boss fight?
I think you put *that* two into the skeleton key, which made them all into 4s which... I didn't know that was a thing, I don't think anyone did, allow me to go and check!
OK! tracking done, you duplicated the 4 that became a two, and then put both of the duplicated blocks into the skeleton key, I think THAT'S what happened, since skeleton key is supposed to set things to the dice put in, and that block was technically a 4 that was halved.... a very strange interaction, to say the least, not one you could have expected. Despite all the other mistakes you make, that one isn't on you, that's for sure.
I'm 99% sure that's a bug. In other situations on a certain other character, there are multiple equips that say "split the value in half", and none interact like that. It seems to me that the game for some reason tracked the two's as four's still, which is really really weird.
@@314Marvin What I find weird about it if true is that it is referencing the value of the die itself to inform what each dice should be set to when the weakened version is specifically statically defined to set all dice to 2. Like I get how it could happen - you're basically mimicking the behavior of the original version of the equipment by doing so. Just that in this instance not hard coding it seems to have introduced a bug due to an unintended side effect of another interaction.
Crowbar + tons of peashooters = great.
Dang, the Skeleton Key- description was staight-up wrong. It turned all your dice into four when it specifically stated it would turn them into two. 100% not your fault, and probably a bug.
I enjoy watching egg play this game
31:10 that painful moment when NL decides that 6 damage is a better option than 12, the number of times NL choses to chuck dice into daggers and completely ignore the much better option being provided to him from the enemy hurts. on another note, for the love of god NL, you dont have to start with skeleton key, you can use those high damage dice before you buff the rest of them you are legitimately only hindering yourself with that.
"dicey" was already a real NL-word, I'm happy he likes this game
20:26 ..... rly. U had a 4 that couldn’t be used AT ALL except on the dagger
do u mean 2 unlock it or 2 get damage because dagger is 3 max
Jonathan Agosto to unlock cuz there was nothing else he could use 4 for
And it actually made him lose lethal
I’m glad someone else noticed it too
Blessed upload
Aww, thought for a minute we might get a surprise Bear run.
These are the kind of quality games that need to be out on switch right now
But... It said set all die to 2 though...
Eliminate the backlog, just upload everything.
Thanos egg just snapped our free time
UA-cam wouldn't be able to handle the full on tidal wave of Egg content.
It's just too much backlog, it would crash the system.
If he doesnt he's a coward.....
(Actually I just watched like 3 hours of Dicey Twitch VODS :D so it's all good)
As much as I'd love more content, ya boi might want to take a day off every now and then. The backlog helps with that.
@@AsterSea Whats a day off?
38:18 Wait what the heck actually happened there. Skeleton Key said it needs two 2s, and would "Set all dice to 2", but then it set everything to 4??
Yeah that's a bug,
But it was still a misplay,
Just in a different way.
Just keep 'em coming Ryan!
The *You win* screen after each combat looks like the NLSS splash screen
2:48 Egg waste a 3 to shield instead of using the 1 for the same effect.
p.s. also there is almost one mistake every single battle. As NL the Egglord himself said: "What else is new?" :D
Love This Series NL
This game is honestly super cool! I hope it has a long life on the channel.
Edit: I doubted the Dagger+ and I am a fool
Edit 2: Read please
glad Northenlion figured out upgrading dagger is broken
4:36
Best of luck to you
28:28 his face lmfao
ALright i know i've been saying you should only play geogusser for like the last week but this shit is THE JAM!
Yooo I got bear transformation my first thief playthrough, It's amazing
Dicey and Streets of Rogue 100 years!
Just a friendly comment reminding everyone that misplays happen to everyone, especially when you have a self imposed "I'm making a video so I don't want to take too long" timer going on in the back of your head!
I am special.... saw this 24 hours ago.... egg I need episode 3
Never skip math class
1:13 HE SAID IT GUYS!
2:55 already starting with the big misplays
I hate to acknowledge it but it truly wasn’t your fault at the end NL! It said they’d become twos and they became fours instead. Bamboozled!
Uh, kinda funny how the Thief builds seem to resemble the Silent from Spire.
trappy chan The warrior, thief, etc archetypes are pretty common in all games.
No mercy. Math must be perfect.
Seems like a really fun game this.
yo, wtf happened at 38:15 ? fix your game blizzard
This game is amazing
That was almost the biggest game throw ive ever seen...
my god the misplays are insane
Also I’m screaming at all those late game baaaaad plays dude
It's a bug in the weakened Skeleton Key equipment.
DeejayNuKe yeah that and the seven other misplays mate 👌🏻