About Ashera: Once you do her ascension quest and discover that she gets phantom pains from an old wound (in her case from a previous life), she becomes even more like Dunban!
Dromarch can be seen as a carving on the door arch in the Cloudkeep!! Also not all Agnian's are blades but a lot of them can be seen to be human blade eaters! Teach, Juniper and Fiona all have core's on their body but have the accent of a human from their respective regions (Indol, Gormott, Mor Ardain) Great videos!! :]
Or, more likely, they're human/blade hybrids, as in the ending it is shown through Nia's photo blades are 100% able to give birth to hybrids. Maybe only flesh eaters/aegis can but IDK. Since under the new leadership in Alrest after XB2 blades and humans were seen as equals and that knowing that most of the cast of XB3 are the children of the people from XB1 and XB2, probably a lot of cross-species fun times were done resulting in the next generation of Alrest being mostly blade/human hybrids aka flesh eaters/blade eaters.
Another potential reference is in the Fonsa Myma ruins. There are two level 82 unique monsters named the “Agnian Assassins” that stand in the ruins of Seebu or what was once the heavens door. This could be a reference to when you fight Malos and Ahkos in xenoblade 2
I was thinking Patroka and Mikhail, despite the location. One's a master of defense and the other has the ultimate offense. It's like fighting a small army!
@@xenocross6597 to me it was like beating two losers. Too bad I was already Lv.83 when I found them. The game doesnt even need your inputs. I just beat those 2 losers while I went away to take a piss.
@@PhazonKing 1: You COULD argue that Fonsa Myma was more in the middle of Uraya. When you look out over the place Vandham died in XC2, there is still quite a bit of titan left and that is even after you climb up all of the stairs covering even more distance. It seemed like Fonsa Myma was more located at the bottom of the stomach if anything. But that is just my thinking. 2: Even if the locations did move, the ruins of Seebu look exactly like a destroyed Fonsa Myma with a very similar layout. Monolith soft would not have done this unless they intentionally wanted to portray Fonsa Myma in a ruined state
6:50 the connection with the strategy table and XCX is that the leader who gave briefings in X was named commander vandham, and Monica is also a commander vandham 👍🏾
I’m so glad that they even added the Mouse Cursor character at 5:53, he was such an under appreciated character that I thought everyone forgot about. Thankfully Monolith remembers the impact Mouse Cursor has left in the story of Xenoblade
6:10 That door actually CAN be opened as part of Segiri's Ascension Quest, and there's just a big hole inside with a natural spiral going down to a room, it doesn't really look like Torna's womb.
The vegetation in the great sword base is not unlike that of the bionis interior lungs. The mechonis struck a blow to the heart of the bionis with its sword so it's not impossible that some of the vegetation remained from the strike or the time egil jabbed at the bionis with its hand
Aionios is not necessarily comprised of actual pieces of land from the previous worlds, as there are things that weren't like that in them. Like Mechonis sword standing like that, or the locations of some of the titans compared to the end of XC2, or how the place where Adam sword was, now is above ground. It is most likely that Aionios was made as an interpretation of the world by Z, or something like that. So, what I mean is that there is no need for an explanations as to how the vegetation ended up being there. Although yours would be a good one for that case.
this is a pretty small connection but there is a place called melneth's shoulder in both xc2 and xc3. melneth is presumably the name of the gormotti titan (gormott is just the name of the place like how Tantal is the name of the place and genbu is the name of the titan)
About the arts shared between games, there are many others you didn't mention. Myopic Screen - also in XCX, which can be used by anyone using the psycho launchers Violent Streak - also in XCX, used by dual gun users (Gray's class Full Metal Jaguar is also Elma's class) Wide Slash - is one of Rex's twin ring arts Air Fang - is one of Fiora's arts Butterfly Blade - is one of Nia's arts in her driver form Speed demon - is a javelin art in XCX Shadow Eye - is one of Shulk's arts Vortex - one of Bosé's signature arts in XCX Overfall - one of Mòrag's chroma katana arts Stormy Skies - Haze's switch art in TGC Mad Taunt - Reyn's talent art (further proving Lanz is actually just Reyn) Big Impact - one of Rex's big bang edge arts Maximum Voltage - one of Alexa's signature arts in XCX Heal Bullet - one of Sharla's arts Cure Bullet - one of Sharla's arts Gale Slash - one of Dunban's arts Jaws of Death - one of Dunban's arts Soaring Tempest - one of Dunban's arts Demon Slayer - one of Dunban's arts (man Ashera really is just female Dunban isn't she) Cross Impact - one of Fiora's arts Hidden Thorn - one of Fiora's arts Imperial Sword - Hugo's level 2 special in TGC Aerial Slash - one of Mòrag's chroma katana arts Sidewinder - a sniper rifle art in XCX No Love Lost - one of Mòrag's sword tonfa arts Ring o' Roses - Lora's level 2 special in TGC Jackal Claw - one of Nia's knuckle claw arts Aureole - one of Mythra's rear guard arts in TGC Mighty Beat - one of Rex's shield hammer arts I've probably missed a bunch of them
It's a stretch, but the class full metal Jaguar, besides being a reference to X in itself, has the some of the shortest cooldowns for Kevesi classes and that could be a reference to X where the arts recharge way faster than in 1 despise both being timer based cooldowns.
The statue of Fey is probably Noah's son. The project Noah thing adds to this and Eunie points out it looks like him. That it has his chin. Something one would say to a child. This would also explain what happened to Noah and Mio's child.
I haven't played Xenoblade 1 yet, but something I noticed is that some Ouroboros arts are the same or similar to arts from Xenoblade 2. For example, Lanz's Ouroboros has an art called "Ray of Punishment", the same as Mythra's lvl 1 special I believe. Or Noah's Ouroboros having an art called "Mega Spinning Edge" , similar to Rex's "Double Spinning Edge".
2:38 Small correction: The name of Vandham in XC2 was just a nickname. He was born Aquila Paronet Sol Esteriole, the heir to the noble Paronet family. Vandham was the name of someone he looked up to, and later took on their name. From a post-battle dialogue, we also know he had a son, who sadly passed away. We don't know if said son was his only child, though.
Fun fact: There's actually a six parties system in Uraya's nobility and Vandham was a noble who left to become a merc after losing his son. It's similar to the Six Houses from the City in XC3
2:38 Actually in one of Vandham's post-battle dialogues with Poppi, he says that she reminds him of his lad (son) who passed on. So we know Vandham had a son at one point, but he passed away before this so it doesn't answer our questions about Guernica
Maybe is a diferent Vandham familly. Vandham is a common name in Xenogames It could also be that Rex took that last name and that familly are his decendends... if he happened to be in Aionios, of course
Some food for thought connections. Noah has pony tail, Fei has pony tail. Long hair Mio has same hair style as Elly. Both are fated to reincarnate and both are fated to meet. Short hair Mio looks sorta lika Miang. M's body takeover ability is similar to Miang's body possession upon reincarnation ability.
I know that Xenoblade X is not linked (yet) to mainline, but the Full Metal Jaguar class is a reference to Elma's class in X (which is also available to the player)
Honestly, until I did his ascension quest I just assumed Gray was meant to be Cross because of FMJ’s arts and dual guns, his hair being similar to a lot of XCX’s options, him wearing a t-shirt and pants (Like Cross’s starting gear) with gauntlets similar to Lin’s, and his mask giving off the idea of ‘faceless’ (Like y’know, a custom character), plus the mention of a ‘Late Friend’s Words’ which just made me think of Elma. The City also just gave off immense XCX vibes too, so that didn’t help
For Agnus characters I think it safe to assume that besides Blade or Flesh/Blade eater a Person that qualified to be Drivers got something special on them physically and Taion is likely the kids that can be Driver Sena and Mio in flashback never aged while Taion aging from his day on Lambda
All the soldiers agnian or kevesi are people born in thre flaneclock system. The origin is a super computer comprised of cores that act as a processor. When people die under the yoke of a flake clock their remade through a core crystal . This is why all people have the potential to crate weapons. It’s also why most people don’t have unique ones sincd their cores are common
For the Vandham thing, it's almost like a Anna from Fire Emblem type situation where every xenoblade game has a character named Vandham in it. the only variation on it is in Xenoblade 1 when we had colonel Vangarre at colony 9 who was called Vandamme in japanese. Chuggaconroy talks about this in a bit better detail in his xenoblade 2 lets play at some point after meeting the vandham of that game
a few things you missed: There's a side quest involving 2 key military squads from Keves Castle. One is named the Soltnar Squad, and the other is named the Khatorl Squad. These are the names of the High Entia sororal statue goddesses Khatorl and Soltnar, whose names when combines get you Satorl. The seal islands to Prison Island are also named after them. Captocorn Peak isn't just a frozen part of Gormott, it's specifically its head. You can see the back of its neck go up and around Colony Gamma, and then at the end lies Captocorn Peak. You can even compare some of the horns and see that they are the same. The plants in the area by the Great Sword's Base isn't a reference to Sylvalum, they're from the Spirit Crucible Elpys, found in various areas throughout the cave. Aizel in Melia's quest isn't the very same from Aizel in Xenoblade 1, as that one very clearly died, and they have 2 different wing colors.
The shroom/pollen-like plants at the Great Sword's Base look like a generalized version of 3 instances of similar vegetation: Bionis Interior has them, Elpys and Sylvalum
the path you take from the prison to Captocorn Peak is actually Valak mountain unfrozen, you can see it and the path but its just a loading zone to get to Captocorn
Finished 3 and played 1 and 2 twice ... I missed so many details. Only huge one I caught was the mechonis hand. I really appreciate you throwing this together.
Here's another something about arts, Mio have an art for her zephyr class which is wide slash, the interesting part is that this art is also in 2 but is the art rex used for when he equipped twin ring.
A big reference to me is (spoilers for XC3 endgame) Origin, the machine created to save all the info of humanity and pretty much all of existence so that life can be recreated after the collision of both worlds works in principle just like the lifehold in XCX where the lifehold contains all info of humanity so that it can be recreated somewhere else after earth is destroyed. Keves = xc1 Agnus = xc2 Lost units = xcx? I’m just impressed they would actually left some references to X. I believe Mio is Rex and Nia’s daughter.
My theory is actually that the world of Mira is itself inside a system similar to Origin, if not somehow Origin itself. I could kinda see the empty remnants of the XC3 world becoming the world of X after millennia of disuse until species from across the multiverse start accidentally warping into its borders.
I noticed it in a cutscene with Nia, I don’t remember which one but I think she was at a desk and had like a lamp thingy next to her that looked like it contained a core crystal. Maybe Dromarch is in retirement?
The thing about the statues, I think it's the DLC storys cast. You play as N & M, or back then known as Noah & Mio, but you also gonna play as the reincarnation of Rex & Shulk. Plus 2 more characters. And you will play in the time where they became the first Uruboros & founded the city. My reason to believe that is the statues have a lot of back stories, like the guy with glasses became 80 despite being a keves soldier or that guy with the robot arm. Also I still think the guy with the glasses is actually Shulk its reincarnation. The guy with the robot arm will be an original character. But that's all just my theory.
Nice video. To answer the first of your question at the end. It reminds me of some part of Torigoth in XC2. P.S. You can acutally open the door that can't be openned. It's linked to the machine assassin rank 20 quest.
During my playthrough I took a long look at galahad fortress and it appears the spike that kills metal face is missing. Just a nice attention to detail
Love these lore connection videos. One thing that I saw in XC3 that was driving me crazy was the creatures that looked a hell of a lot like telethia from XC1.
Not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but there is a quest where you help a novleist by collecting relics from the "old world" such as one called the sinister faceplate which I'm fairly certain is a reference to metal face, or a rusted pressure helm referencing the salvagers in 2
On the mechonis sword, there’s an area called “Dolgan cliff” which is a reference of one of the many fortresses you had to go through in sword valley called “Dolgan outpost”. Also the “Fei” statue is apparently (SPOILERS) N’s son. I don’t know who came to that conclusion but is makes sense to me as in one of the scenes, Eunie states that “This one has Noah’s chin” and also he has a lot of appearance similarities to Noah
I love this kind of videos! By the way, talking about Dromarch, his head can be found above the door where you find Nia the first time. I hope it's just an ornament and not his real head... XD
As far as special moves being reused. That's common across most JRPGs Ive played over the years. So I never really thought anything of it. I didn't even consider the recharge system...This video was cool, it helped me realize and remember a lot of small details of past games.
The Cavern of the Seal, where you met the Nopon Halfsage, is now the Milio Trick Cave. Pay attention to the layout of some of the rooms if you ever decide to check it out
I know this is a very late comment, but the overly complicated to get robot girl Seigiri has the codename "No. 7". Reminds me of a certain other robot girl who is also classified as Seven
Myopic Screen Is the name of an art in Xenoblade X, Full Metal Jaguar uses dual guns just like the class of the same name from Xenoblade X. All the people from the City use realistic looking weapons and I think that might be a reference to Xenoblade X. Near the end of the game both queens pilot giant robots and their interface looked like Skells from Xenoblade X. Also during that same scene the windows that show information in that skell like thing are circular for Keves and diamond shaped for Agnus, just like how the arts look like for those nations’ classes.
There's also a Vandham in Xenoblade X, but he looks way different, and sound way different. (He's also the one you most of the time discuss with by the table)
07:19 *Going along with the joke* How else would you explain pieces of Rex's outfit (along with Azurda chilling in his helmet) being found around Hyrule?
Loving the videos keep it up, also if you get the mention the Machina in the game there a huge mystery to me. Why do they all look pretty similar, more specifically like Egil's family line, because if you consider the other machina ppl like Linada and Radzam. You'll realize they don't have the same line patterns on they're faces. Also another unique detail Lanz can swim, in one of the quest there was a Machina who wanted to become a Homs so he can swim because Machina can't be in water.
- The door in the Dannagh Desert can actually be opened during the ascension quest of a certain hero... - Dromarch can be found hanging above the entrance door to Nia's room at the Cloud Keep...
I think you missed the most obvious reference to X, Full Metal Jaguar, the class of Gray who is the same for Elma, the main "protagonist" of X, besides class, Gray and Elma share the arts Violent Streak and Executioner
With the Arts from the Ouroboros there is one called Flame Nova which is an art used by Rex with Pyra from XC2. It's an Ouroboros art used by Lanz and Sena
Regarding Ashera, it could be that she's simply Dunban's descendant. Looks similar, same moveset and even move names plus they are both dodge tanks. I believe every member of each respective party (XC 1and 2) got kids, save for maybe Zeke and Shulk (As Shulk was stated to have adopted kids instead or maybe Eunie is Shulk and Melia's kid but I'm just grasping at straws here). Like how Mio is obviously Nia's child. Noah looks waaaaay too much like Morag to simply dismiss to but that's me guessing again too. Plus there's a location called "The Great Aegis Sea", which we can assume is a crater caused by Mythra or Malos and it's been filled up by water at this point. Regarding Vandham, in his post battle dialogue he states that he did have a son but he's dead. So we can either assume that 1. Vandham's son had a kid that continued the family name 2. Vandham had a family already that continued his name 3. Rex took up his name and continued with it. Just because Rex was a mentor doesn't mean he wasn't part of the Vandham house or whatever. Yet again, it's a guess. One of the founders has an Aegis core crystal, I don't know if that's been said already or not. That means she is one of Rex's children or both. If Pyra and Mythra can fuse maybe their kids can do the same....? Lol naaaaah... that wouldn't make sense, either way, That is either Pyra's or Mythra's child (Whether it's an Origin clone or not) Melia during battle has wings that show up behind her, those are Telethia wings. Don't read too much into it. It's not what you think.
I feel like she’s reyn and sharla’s kid, who looked up to dunban before the worlds converged, so she used his arts/fighting style once the cycle started
@@sushi287 no. It's Dunbans. She looks waaay too similar. Save for her suicidal tendencies (which are caused by her remembering her cycles and the pain she goes through), she even acts the same
@@SirStrikeFreedom but she looks exactly the same as sharla, and has the same recklessness/cockiness of reyn. Considering dunban has absolutely no love interest in 1, i feel as though this makes much more sense
What i found interesting is everyone in xbc 3 could summon their blades at will, not only that but they could swap them out, at least noah can. Hell he added lucky 7 to his original blade. Thing is in 1 and 2 the characters had to carry their weapons on their backs except for blades in xbc 2. And thanks to rex we know blades can reproduce the good old fashioned way that means everyone in xbc 3 are decendents of people who got a little to comfortable with their swords in bed
One connection to Xenogears is that the Consul's share a similar role to the Testaments and Consul D has an almost exact design to Grahf, Seeker of Power
Ashera and her class, Lone Exile, have several other Arts that share names with Dunban's. Both Ashera and Lone Exile have Demon Slayer, while Lone Exile has Soaring Tempest and Gale Slash.
Guernica Vandham seems to just be a visual & name reference, as we know in XC3 the Vandham family (Ghondor, Monica, Guernica, the Founder) are descendants of N & M Same goes for Yew & Zuo, it's likely just a cheeky reference :)
we know blades don't vanish until their driver dies or their core is damaged but since nia is still alive that really only leaves a few options for the fate of dromarch which are either that he's just alive but hiding/trapped somewhere, or his core crystal was damaged at some point and he was effectively killed right there (maybe could've while moebius was trying to either kill or capture nia before she went into slumber?)
One of the biggest connection between 1,2,3 and X is the fact that origin in 3 has every data to save the ppl of the 2 worlds. It is right that origin goes down and the 2 worlds drift apart at the end but this is the future which they had choose. We don´t know if the new world has origin and if yes....that would mean, that planet mira is the world of XC3 after defeating Z. Everyone who had played X know that every data of the whale was destroyed and there should no explanation for it, that they can life on mira. The other thing. At the end of X is, that 1 person comes from the sea and is alive again ( he died in the final battle) So If Mira is the world of 3, Origin is maybe the core of mira and has still the funktion to gather all data of lifing things on the planet.
I hope they bring Dromarch back as a hero and make him really good to make up for how bad he was in 2. He could just be a healer ether attacking version of the Zephyr class and Id be fine with that as long as he comes back
@@NamelessPierrot22 her too. Maybe theyll do something like with Poppibuster where she is controlling another body from her place on the Cloudkeep that way it wouldn’t contradict the fact that she doesn’t actually come out of there until after you beat Z
vandham is like cid of xeno games. you have the late leader of Gormott mercenaries, the big mustache man of BLADEs and the colonel of colony 9 which has his name changed in EN version, his name in JP is Vandham.
I thought the area around the Mechonis Sword with the puffy flora was supposed to be the Bionis Interior, but maybe not. And another very small detail that not many people notice is that in XC1, the UI has only icons of the party members, in XC2, only the names of the party members, but in XC3? It has both icons AND the names. Just a small cool merging of both.
In Xenoblade Chronicles 2 one of Vandam's battle quotes he says Rex reminds him so much of his boy and starts to tear up. So he did have a family out there, we don't know if his son died or he's still out there but we can assume Vandam's family line continued through his son.
I love that when you use the life sage class you also have both aegis swords behind you, makes me think why Nia can summon visage of them Melia has a similar effect but it looks like angel wings, guess it's a reference to telethia and their eathereal looking wings
do you remember coolley lake from gormott in xenoblade 2? its in xenoblade 3 too, same name and everything, its the location where the superboss perilwing ryuho spawns.
i think the flora outside the great sword base also looks a lot like the plants inside spirit crucible elpys, the marsh area looks like a ruined leftheria smushed with spirit crucible elpys, also i do think aetia is gormott (including captocorn peak) becasue you can see the blue crystals thats the same as gormott's tail on the titan :)
About Ashera: Once you do her ascension quest and discover that she gets phantom pains from an old wound (in her case from a previous life), she becomes even more like Dunban!
Most likely a descendant as the same vandamn appeared in the game meaning that this takes place afew decades after each game (at most)
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How so?
@@Kuuribro Cuz Dunban suffered from chronic pains in his crippled arm.
Yeah, the game is sooo dumb. It says the guys can not remember their past lives. But guess what, fuck that rule!
@@timurkral3781 You better put a "/s" at the end before someone thinks you're actually being serious
Dromarch can be seen as a carving on the door arch in the Cloudkeep!! Also not all Agnian's are blades but a lot of them can be seen to be human blade eaters! Teach, Juniper and Fiona all have core's on their body but have the accent of a human from their respective regions (Indol, Gormott, Mor Ardain)
Great videos!! :]
I never noticed that they have core crystal 😮 especially juniper and i am 100 hour in the game !
I thought Teach and Juniper just resembled their first driver like Haze and Lora, but this makes more sense given how unblade-like they look
Or, more likely, they're human/blade hybrids, as in the ending it is shown through Nia's photo blades are 100% able to give birth to hybrids. Maybe only flesh eaters/aegis can but IDK. Since under the new leadership in Alrest after XB2 blades and humans were seen as equals and that knowing that most of the cast of XB3 are the children of the people from XB1 and XB2, probably a lot of cross-species fun times were done resulting in the next generation of Alrest being mostly blade/human hybrids aka flesh eaters/blade eaters.
@@renard2956 Juniper has their core crystal on the back of one of their arms. It's kinda hard to see unless you really look for it.
Fiona isn't from Mor Ardain but a titan we never saw in 2
Another potential reference is in the Fonsa Myma ruins. There are two level 82 unique monsters named the “Agnian Assassins” that stand in the ruins of Seebu or what was once the heavens door. This could be a reference to when you fight Malos and Ahkos in xenoblade 2
I was thinking Patroka and Mikhail, despite the location. One's a master of defense and the other has the ultimate offense. It's like fighting a small army!
@@xenocross6597 to me it was like beating two losers. Too bad I was already Lv.83 when I found them.
The game doesnt even need your inputs. I just beat those 2 losers while I went away to take a piss.
You don't visit the Fonsa Myma ruins at all. They are/were in the back of Uraya. But in XC3 you travel through the middle of the titan's remains.
@@PhazonKing 1: You COULD argue that Fonsa Myma was more in the middle of Uraya. When you look out over the place Vandham died in XC2, there is still quite a bit of titan left and that is even after you climb up all of the stairs covering even more distance. It seemed like Fonsa Myma was more located at the bottom of the stomach if anything. But that is just my thinking.
2: Even if the locations did move, the ruins of Seebu look exactly like a destroyed Fonsa Myma with a very similar layout. Monolith soft would not have done this unless they intentionally wanted to portray Fonsa Myma in a ruined state
"another lesson for ya! There's something else you can do with a BLADE!"
6:50 the connection with the strategy table and XCX is that the leader who gave briefings in X was named commander vandham, and Monica is also a commander vandham 👍🏾
The unopened door is explored in a later quest. It's a hideout used in a character's ascension quest
Oh, well... thanks for letting me know ^^
used for segiri ascension if I may add
@@anggasurbakti8269 ik i didn't wanna spoil it even though it was minor
All that quest had me thinking of was the meme "Aren't you tired of being nice? Don't you just want to go apeshit?" LOL
I’m so glad that they even added the Mouse Cursor character at 5:53, he was such an under appreciated character that I thought everyone forgot about. Thankfully Monolith remembers the impact Mouse Cursor has left in the story of Xenoblade
9:07 if you look at the door to Nia's sleeping place at the cloudkeep, you can see dromarch's head above it, hopefully only a statue...
6:10 That door actually CAN be opened as part of Segiri's Ascension Quest, and there's just a big hole inside with a natural spiral going down to a room, it doesn't really look like Torna's womb.
Another possible connection: The Consuls do have a shape around their core on the chest, which does look like the Conduit/Zohar.
The vegetation in the great sword base is not unlike that of the bionis interior lungs. The mechonis struck a blow to the heart of the bionis with its sword so it's not impossible that some of the vegetation remained from the strike or the time egil jabbed at the bionis with its hand
YO in sylvalum theres a huge heart/ plant thingy that glows
Aionios is not necessarily comprised of actual pieces of land from the previous worlds, as there are things that weren't like that in them. Like Mechonis sword standing like that, or the locations of some of the titans compared to the end of XC2, or how the place where Adam sword was, now is above ground. It is most likely that Aionios was made as an interpretation of the world by Z, or something like that.
So, what I mean is that there is no need for an explanations as to how the vegetation ended up being there. Although yours would be a good one for that case.
this is a pretty small connection but there is a place called melneth's shoulder in both xc2 and xc3. melneth is presumably the name of the gormotti titan (gormott is just the name of the place like how Tantal is the name of the place and genbu is the name of the titan)
About the arts shared between games, there are many others you didn't mention.
Myopic Screen - also in XCX, which can be used by anyone using the psycho launchers
Violent Streak - also in XCX, used by dual gun users (Gray's class Full Metal Jaguar is also Elma's class)
Wide Slash - is one of Rex's twin ring arts
Air Fang - is one of Fiora's arts
Butterfly Blade - is one of Nia's arts in her driver form
Speed demon - is a javelin art in XCX
Shadow Eye - is one of Shulk's arts
Vortex - one of Bosé's signature arts in XCX
Overfall - one of Mòrag's chroma katana arts
Stormy Skies - Haze's switch art in TGC
Mad Taunt - Reyn's talent art (further proving Lanz is actually just Reyn)
Big Impact - one of Rex's big bang edge arts
Maximum Voltage - one of Alexa's signature arts in XCX
Heal Bullet - one of Sharla's arts
Cure Bullet - one of Sharla's arts
Gale Slash - one of Dunban's arts
Jaws of Death - one of Dunban's arts
Soaring Tempest - one of Dunban's arts
Demon Slayer - one of Dunban's arts (man Ashera really is just female Dunban isn't she)
Cross Impact - one of Fiora's arts
Hidden Thorn - one of Fiora's arts
Imperial Sword - Hugo's level 2 special in TGC
Aerial Slash - one of Mòrag's chroma katana arts
Sidewinder - a sniper rifle art in XCX
No Love Lost - one of Mòrag's sword tonfa arts
Ring o' Roses - Lora's level 2 special in TGC
Jackal Claw - one of Nia's knuckle claw arts
Aureole - one of Mythra's rear guard arts in TGC
Mighty Beat - one of Rex's shield hammer arts
I've probably missed a bunch of them
Jeez man, appreciate the comment, will include them all in the next one :D
It's a stretch, but the class full metal Jaguar, besides being a reference to X in itself, has the some of the shortest cooldowns for Kevesi classes and that could be a reference to X where the arts recharge way faster than in 1 despise both being timer based cooldowns.
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The statue of Fey is probably Noah's son. The project Noah thing adds to this and Eunie points out it looks like him. That it has his chin. Something one would say to a child. This would also explain what happened to Noah and Mio's child.
I haven't played Xenoblade 1 yet, but something I noticed is that some Ouroboros arts are the same or similar to arts from Xenoblade 2. For example, Lanz's Ouroboros has an art called "Ray of Punishment", the same as Mythra's lvl 1 special I believe. Or Noah's Ouroboros having an art called "Mega Spinning Edge" , similar to Rex's "Double Spinning Edge".
Or butterfly blade which o forgot which class used .
Mio's Ouroboros has Shining Halo, and Nia has "Healing Halo", Sena's Ouroboros has Pyra's Flame Nova
Also Infinity Blade for Noah and Rex
Nia made the stones, makes sense.
Ashera pretty much just has Dunban arts
7:18 I was NOT expecting this crossover but I'm all for it
Well they *are* both made by monolith now... /s
2:38 Small correction: The name of Vandham in XC2 was just a nickname. He was born Aquila Paronet Sol Esteriole, the heir to the noble Paronet family. Vandham was the name of someone he looked up to, and later took on their name.
From a post-battle dialogue, we also know he had a son, who sadly passed away. We don't know if said son was his only child, though.
maybe, the first vandham is just one of rex's child. he decided to give his child the same name as is "mentor" and "hero"
then it passed down
Fun fact: There's actually a six parties system in Uraya's nobility and Vandham was a noble who left to become a merc after losing his son. It's similar to the Six Houses from the City in XC3
Man this game was a nostalgia trip. So many returning locations and callbacks to the previous game made me tear up
I am more anoyed that we later find out why its so hard to find references to old games.
...because some team 0 destroyed culturial stuff...
2:38 Actually in one of Vandham's post-battle dialogues with Poppi, he says that she reminds him of his lad (son) who passed on. So we know Vandham had a son at one point, but he passed away before this so it doesn't answer our questions about Guernica
Maybe is a diferent Vandham familly. Vandham is a common name in Xenogames
It could also be that Rex took that last name and that familly are his decendends... if he happened to be in Aionios, of course
@@diegotimon4570 It obviously isn't the same vandham, but the point was that he had a child in both games.
@@theultimatetactician1712 Wasn't the point to look for a conection berween the two?
@@diegotimon4570 I'm unsure
@@theultimatetactician1712 Oh... didn't expect that answer
Some food for thought connections. Noah has pony tail, Fei has pony tail. Long hair Mio has same hair style as Elly. Both are fated to reincarnate and both are fated to meet. Short hair Mio looks sorta lika Miang. M's body takeover ability is similar to Miang's body possession upon reincarnation ability.
I know that Xenoblade X is not linked (yet) to mainline, but the Full Metal Jaguar class is a reference to Elma's class in X (which is also available to the player)
Honestly, until I did his ascension quest I just assumed Gray was meant to be Cross because of FMJ’s arts and dual guns, his hair being similar to a lot of XCX’s options, him wearing a t-shirt and pants (Like Cross’s starting gear) with gauntlets similar to Lin’s, and his mask giving off the idea of ‘faceless’ (Like y’know, a custom character), plus the mention of a ‘Late Friend’s Words’ which just made me think of Elma. The City also just gave off immense XCX vibes too, so that didn’t help
For Agnus characters
I think it safe to assume that besides Blade or Flesh/Blade eater
a Person that qualified to be Drivers got something special on them physically and Taion is likely the kids that can be Driver
Sena and Mio in flashback never aged while Taion aging from his day on Lambda
All the soldiers agnian or kevesi are people born in thre flaneclock system. The origin is a super computer comprised of cores that act as a processor. When people die under the yoke of a flake clock their remade through a core crystal . This is why all people have the potential to crate weapons. It’s also why most people don’t have unique ones sincd their cores are common
Taion has a core crystal in his chest. You can see it in the trailer for the second DLC Part when he wears his swimwear
Cammuravi’s talent art, Empyrean Salvo, shares its name with Herald’s level 2 blade special in Xeno 2. Figure that’s worth noting.
Just wanna mention repeated names are common in the series, myopic screen and even full metal jaguar etc are all from xenoblade x.
For the Vandham thing, it's almost like a Anna from Fire Emblem type situation where every xenoblade game has a character named Vandham in it. the only variation on it is in Xenoblade 1 when we had colonel Vangarre at colony 9 who was called Vandamme in japanese. Chuggaconroy talks about this in a bit better detail in his xenoblade 2 lets play at some point after meeting the vandham of that game
Though Nia in one of her dialogues references the Vandham bloodline.
Vandahm is actually a recurring character/name throughout the entire Xeno series iirc
a few things you missed:
There's a side quest involving 2 key military squads from Keves Castle. One is named the Soltnar Squad, and the other is named the Khatorl Squad. These are the names of the High Entia sororal statue goddesses Khatorl and Soltnar, whose names when combines get you Satorl. The seal islands to Prison Island are also named after them.
Captocorn Peak isn't just a frozen part of Gormott, it's specifically its head. You can see the back of its neck go up and around Colony Gamma, and then at the end lies Captocorn Peak. You can even compare some of the horns and see that they are the same.
The plants in the area by the Great Sword's Base isn't a reference to Sylvalum, they're from the Spirit Crucible Elpys, found in various areas throughout the cave.
Aizel in Melia's quest isn't the very same from Aizel in Xenoblade 1, as that one very clearly died, and they have 2 different wing colors.
The shroom/pollen-like plants at the Great Sword's Base look like a generalized version of 3 instances of similar vegetation: Bionis Interior has them, Elpys and Sylvalum
the path you take from the prison to Captocorn Peak is actually Valak mountain unfrozen, you can see it and the path but its just a loading zone to get to Captocorn
Valak was the right arm, you cross the left arm/shoulder to reach Captocorn.
Finished 3 and played 1 and 2 twice ... I missed so many details. Only huge one I caught was the mechonis hand. I really appreciate you throwing this together.
Another reference to xenogears is was the line about being “men of the sea”
the most important connection of all: the mouse cursor they forgot to move out of the way when they recorded the video of Nene
Here's another something about arts, Mio have an art for her zephyr class which is wide slash, the interesting part is that this art is also in 2 but is the art rex used for when he equipped twin ring.
I knew it, those Zonai people involved in everything
A big reference to me is (spoilers for XC3 endgame)
Origin, the machine created to save all the info of humanity and pretty much all of existence so that life can be recreated after the collision of both worlds works in principle just like the lifehold in XCX where the lifehold contains all info of humanity so that it can be recreated somewhere else after earth is destroyed.
Keves = xc1
Agnus = xc2
Lost units = xcx?
I’m just impressed they would actually left some references to X.
I believe Mio is Rex and Nia’s daughter.
My theory is actually that the world of Mira is itself inside a system similar to Origin, if not somehow Origin itself. I could kinda see the empty remnants of the XC3 world becoming the world of X after millennia of disuse until species from across the multiverse start accidentally warping into its borders.
That Project Noah reveal blasted my mind and I'm an absolute Xenofreak who even read Perfect Works 😄 Awesome find, thanks.
The only thing i want out of this games dlc is adult reyn. You can't have a rainbow without reyn and i will die by that quote
6:04 That door opens as part of the chain of side quests for Colony 0. Maybe even Segiri's Ascension Quest specifically.
I noticed it in a cutscene with Nia, I don’t remember which one but I think she was at a desk and had like a lamp thingy next to her that looked like it contained a core crystal. Maybe Dromarch is in retirement?
The thing about the statues, I think it's the DLC storys cast. You play as N & M, or back then known as Noah & Mio, but you also gonna play as the reincarnation of Rex & Shulk. Plus 2 more characters.
And you will play in the time where they became the first Uruboros & founded the city.
My reason to believe that is the statues have a lot of back stories, like the guy with glasses became 80 despite being a keves soldier or that guy with the robot arm.
Also I still think the guy with the glasses is actually Shulk its reincarnation. The guy with the robot arm will be an original character.
But that's all just my theory.
I hope not. I really want them to do a Future Connect style epilogue, not another prequel.
I remember somebody on the Xenoblade subreddit posting an image with Dromatch's head standing above a door in Agnus castle , which is pretty dark
I live for these PLEASE make more man great job
Nice video.
To answer the first of your question at the end. It reminds me of some part of Torigoth in XC2.
P.S. You can acutally open the door that can't be openned.
It's linked to the machine assassin rank 20 quest.
Right outside of nia’s room in the Cloudkeep, above the doorway is dromarchs head
6:08 It can be opened with a hero’s ascension quest and if I remember correctly, it unfortunately wasn’t that area
During my playthrough I took a long look at galahad fortress and it appears the spike that kills metal face is missing. Just a nice attention to detail
Love these lore connection videos. One thing that I saw in XC3 that was driving me crazy was the creatures that looked a hell of a lot like telethia from XC1.
Which creatures?!
@@mimiozee they're scattered all over the world.
Not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but there is a quest where you help a novleist by collecting relics from the "old world" such as one called the sinister faceplate which I'm fairly certain is a reference to metal face, or a rusted pressure helm referencing the salvagers in 2
That door in daghnah desert is openable. It's connected to a hero ascension quest. The very last hero's questline to be exact.
Oh my god I didn’t notice that one statue was Fei! Thats an insane detail that creates the possibility of Blade becoming connected to Gears and Saga
On the mechonis sword, there’s an area called “Dolgan cliff” which is a reference of one of the many fortresses you had to go through in sword valley called “Dolgan outpost”. Also the “Fei” statue is apparently (SPOILERS)
N’s son. I don’t know who came to that conclusion but is makes sense to me as in one of the scenes, Eunie states that “This one has Noah’s chin” and also he has a lot of appearance similarities to Noah
its like every area and every small location is an area from the previous games but it doesnt feel lazy its actually super cool
7:17 No surprise cuz Zelda BOTW's geography was almost entirely designed by monolithsoft; hence nintendo released a Rex costume in game
agreed about upper aetia is frozen gormott since colony gamma area is Melnath shoulder, same area name in Titan Gormott
I love this kind of videos! By the way, talking about Dromarch, his head can be found above the door where you find Nia the first time. I hope it's just an ornament and not his real head... XD
As far as special moves being reused. That's common across most JRPGs Ive played over the years. So I never really thought anything of it. I didn't even consider the recharge system...This video was cool, it helped me realize and remember a lot of small details of past games.
Yup, part 3 will talk a bit more about the reused attacks. Because... there are a LOT of them. Thanks for the kind words :)
The Cavern of the Seal, where you met the Nopon Halfsage, is now the Milio Trick Cave. Pay attention to the layout of some of the rooms if you ever decide to check it out
There's a Dromarch head sculpture in Nia's restplace, over the arch of the entrance to the room that has the vault where Poppi is stored
I know this is a very late comment, but the overly complicated to get robot girl Seigiri has the codename "No. 7". Reminds me of a certain other robot girl who is also classified as Seven
Now it all makes sense, Nopon are the Zonai
Myopic Screen Is the name of an art in Xenoblade X, Full Metal Jaguar uses dual guns just like the class of the same name from Xenoblade X. All the people from the City use realistic looking weapons and I think that might be a reference to Xenoblade X. Near the end of the game both queens pilot giant robots and their interface looked like Skells from Xenoblade X. Also during that same scene the windows that show information in that skell like thing are circular for Keves and diamond shaped for Agnus, just like how the arts look like for those nations’ classes.
Nopon being the zonai is unironically something monolith would throw in as a joke, especially with BotW 2 giving link a Monado hand
The great red sword isn’t in reference to shulk, and the statue is actually who originally wielded Noah’s lucky 7 hence the robo arm that Noah gets
There's also a Vandham in Xenoblade X, but he looks way different, and sound way different. (He's also the one you most of the time discuss with by the table)
07:19 *Going along with the joke*
How else would you explain pieces of Rex's outfit (along with Azurda chilling in his helmet) being found around Hyrule?
XC2 Vandham does mention that he had a son in some post battle dialogie , though it seems he died
Loving the videos keep it up, also if you get the mention the Machina in the game there a huge mystery to me. Why do they all look pretty similar, more specifically like Egil's family line, because if you consider the other machina ppl like Linada and Radzam. You'll realize they don't have the same line patterns on they're faces. Also another unique detail Lanz can swim, in one of the quest there was a Machina who wanted to become a Homs so he can swim because Machina can't be in water.
- The door in the Dannagh Desert can actually be opened during the ascension quest of a certain hero...
- Dromarch can be found hanging above the entrance door to Nia's room at the Cloud Keep...
How badly I want connections to X to for sure turn out to be canonical, have X involved in the overall story in some way, haha
Anyway, awesome video!
Thank you for the great videos mate!
Thats really great to hear, thanks for watching :)
6:11 This door opens up when you do Segiri's side quest and is the hideout for No.13
I think you missed the most obvious reference to X, Full Metal Jaguar, the class of Gray who is the same for Elma, the main "protagonist" of X, besides class, Gray and Elma share the arts Violent Streak and Executioner
3:44 The fusioned name of "Makna Forest" with "Lands of Morytha" makes "Maktha Wildwood"
6:11 Er, that door can be opened - it's part of the Machine Assassin Ascension Quest (the Quest that unlocks Lv. 11-20).
With the Arts from the Ouroboros there is one called Flame Nova which is an art used by Rex with Pyra from XC2.
It's an Ouroboros art used by Lanz and Sena
Regarding Ashera, it could be that she's simply Dunban's descendant. Looks similar, same moveset and even move names plus they are both dodge tanks. I believe every member of each respective party (XC 1and 2) got kids, save for maybe Zeke and Shulk (As Shulk was stated to have adopted kids instead or maybe Eunie is Shulk and Melia's kid but I'm just grasping at straws here). Like how Mio is obviously Nia's child. Noah looks waaaaay too much like Morag to simply dismiss to but that's me guessing again too.
Plus there's a location called "The Great Aegis Sea", which we can assume is a crater caused by Mythra or Malos and it's been filled up by water at this point.
Regarding Vandham, in his post battle dialogue he states that he did have a son but he's dead. So we can either assume that 1. Vandham's son had a kid that continued the family name 2. Vandham had a family already that continued his name 3. Rex took up his name and continued with it. Just because Rex was a mentor doesn't mean he wasn't part of the Vandham house or whatever. Yet again, it's a guess.
One of the founders has an Aegis core crystal, I don't know if that's been said already or not. That means she is one of Rex's children or both. If Pyra and Mythra can fuse maybe their kids can do the same....? Lol naaaaah... that wouldn't make sense, either way, That is either Pyra's or Mythra's child (Whether it's an Origin clone or not)
Melia during battle has wings that show up behind her, those are Telethia wings. Don't read too much into it. It's not what you think.
I feel like she’s reyn and sharla’s kid, who looked up to dunban before the worlds converged, so she used his arts/fighting style once the cycle started
@@sushi287 no. It's Dunbans. She looks waaay too similar. Save for her suicidal tendencies (which are caused by her remembering her cycles and the pain she goes through), she even acts the same
@@SirStrikeFreedom but she looks exactly the same as sharla, and has the same recklessness/cockiness of reyn. Considering dunban has absolutely no love interest in 1, i feel as though this makes much more sense
@@sushi287 Reyn wasn't cocky...? But anyway, we'll have to wait and see when the DLC drops
noah simply cant be morag's child they are from different worlds
At the entrance to the Cloud Keep, you can find Dromarch's head. Whether it's actually his head or just a statue made in his image is unknown
The indoor in the desert is where you go for number 7 Saguri’s ascension quest
Love love LOVE the benimaru intro. Dude has to be one of my favorite Fire Force Characters
That locked door is attached to a quest for this game's optional "secret" character.
What i found interesting is everyone in xbc 3 could summon their blades at will, not only that but they could swap them out, at least noah can. Hell he added lucky 7 to his original blade. Thing is in 1 and 2 the characters had to carry their weapons on their backs except for blades in xbc 2. And thanks to rex we know blades can reproduce the good old fashioned way that means everyone in xbc 3 are decendents of people who got a little to comfortable with their swords in bed
One connection to Xenogears is that the Consul's share a similar role to the Testaments and Consul D has an almost exact design to Grahf, Seeker of Power
9:00 havn't played in a while but from memory it kinda looks like some of the mechanical parts of the docks in Torigoth
another cool detail is how Nia wields both of the aegises swords kinda reminding of NG+ title screen in xc2
Ashera and her class, Lone Exile, have several other Arts that share names with Dunban's. Both Ashera and Lone Exile have Demon Slayer, while Lone Exile has Soaring Tempest and Gale Slash.
I cannot belive that Samon is actually a Zonai it all makes sense now.
Guernica Vandham seems to just be a visual & name reference, as we know in XC3 the Vandham family (Ghondor, Monica, Guernica, the Founder) are descendants of N & M
Same goes for Yew & Zuo, it's likely just a cheeky reference :)
we know blades don't vanish until their driver dies or their core is damaged
but since nia is still alive that really only leaves a few options for the fate of dromarch
which are either that he's just alive but hiding/trapped somewhere, or his core crystal was damaged at some point and he was effectively killed right there (maybe could've while moebius was trying to either kill or capture nia before she went into slumber?)
The door you can’t open in dannagh is for an ascension quest!
One of the biggest connection between 1,2,3 and X is the fact that origin in 3 has every data to save the ppl of the 2 worlds. It is right that origin goes down and the 2 worlds drift apart at the end but this is the future which they had choose. We don´t know if the new world has origin and if yes....that would mean, that planet mira is the world of XC3 after defeating Z. Everyone who had played X know that every data of the whale was destroyed and there should no explanation for it, that they can life on mira. The other thing. At the end of X is, that 1 person comes from the sea and is alive again ( he died in the final battle) So If Mira is the world of 3, Origin is maybe the core of mira and has still the funktion to gather all data of lifing things on the planet.
I hope they bring Dromarch back as a hero and make him really good to make up for how bad he was in 2. He could just be a healer ether attacking version of the Zephyr class and Id be fine with that as long as he comes back
I want poppi she was already in the cutscenes 😁😁😁
@@NamelessPierrot22 her too. Maybe theyll do something like with Poppibuster where she is controlling another body from her place on the Cloudkeep that way it wouldn’t contradict the fact that she doesn’t actually come out of there until after you beat Z
vandham is like cid of xeno games. you have the late leader of Gormott mercenaries, the big mustache man of BLADEs and the colonel of colony 9 which has his name changed in EN version, his name in JP is Vandham.
The door you mention in the video is for Segri's Accession quest. It gets opened during that quest.
I thought the area around the Mechonis Sword with the puffy flora was supposed to be the Bionis Interior, but maybe not. And another very small detail that not many people notice is that in XC1, the UI has only icons of the party members, in XC2, only the names of the party members, but in XC3? It has both icons AND the names. Just a small cool merging of both.
6:07 That door actually can be opened as part of a hero side quest mission .
12:26 I’m so glad Dunban’s transition went well
In Xenoblade Chronicles 2 one of Vandam's battle quotes he says Rex reminds him so much of his boy and starts to tear up. So he did have a family out there, we don't know if his son died or he's still out there but we can assume Vandam's family line continued through his son.
the door in darna dessert isnt the chamber where titans are born. The Door unlocks in a heros quest and can be entered.
The door in dannagh desert opens during segiris ascension quest and you can see the inside, and theres a massive pit
I love that when you use the life sage class you also have both aegis swords behind you, makes me think why Nia can summon visage of them
Melia has a similar effect but it looks like angel wings, guess it's a reference to telethia and their eathereal looking wings
do you remember coolley lake from gormott in xenoblade 2? its in xenoblade 3 too, same name and everything, its the location where the superboss perilwing ryuho spawns.
i think the flora outside the great sword base also looks a lot like the plants inside spirit crucible elpys, the marsh area looks like a ruined leftheria smushed with spirit crucible elpys, also i do think aetia is gormott (including captocorn peak) becasue you can see the blue crystals thats the same as gormott's tail on the titan :)