Yup, Eren basically has no tolerance for anyone even threatening his destiny. And the thought of Ymir accidentally consuming it caused him to flip out.
I like how Marley has been punished here. No Jaw Titan, no Colossal Titan and no Female Titan mean they lost the war against the Mid-East Allied Forces and as a result, Marley is forced to cede the peninsula they most likely gained through unequal treaty back then back to the Mid-East Eyalets. And even if this is not similar to the Heraclius Plan of mine, I can see somewhat similar result if all cards are played right. Marley attacked Paradis alone will definitely ended in total disaster for Marley. At worst, the Rumbling happened. At best, Marley became a laughingstock in front of the entire world in what most likely be internationally described as "Marley's folly military expedition" or something like that. As for the Mid-East Eyalets, I can see them tried to prevent other nations from joining into the anti-Paradis alliance with Marley under the pretext that it might actually lead to the Rumbling and that the raid in Liberio is just Paradis' warning shot to leave the island alone. Also, have you ever imagined the scenario in which that Willy Tybur survived and his sister is taken as the political hostage instead? I think this is when Willy will become emotionally compromised due to the desire to make sure his sister is safe. But I guess this is also why Eren and Zeke planned to take Willy out first because Eren can finally take Lara out and gain the Warhammer Titan as well without someone like Armin to come and suggest to him the idea about taking Lara as a hostage to make sure Marley won't attack their home. By the way, which of your AOT story do you intended to put the Heraclius Plan into action? Aside the one where Dina most likely eaten one of the Titan Shifters and become the Queen of Paradis and possibly bearing some children for Levi, of course.
Here's what I think will happen in part 3, (let's see how much is right) Kenny won't give up Historia's location and would use her as insurance for Ymir and Xavier's cooperation. Meanwhile, I think eren would be on his way to wall Sina for a couple of reasons: 1) Zeke is somewhere in wall Sina 2) Kenny's gang is strongest in wall Sina and he would require their assistance. At the same time, with Erwin in charge the situation changes drastically. Erwin would likely be 3 steps ahead of everyone and would have planned to transfer erens Titan, either to Xavier or Ymir or to a scout. He would likely have mobilized the scouts under the pretext of a marleyean attack (but in reality to allow the transfer of eren and Zeke Titan). I believe so as Erwin would note how the raid on Liberio only ruined paradis image on the world stage and gave eren more Titan power. Given the situation I think that Xavier and Erens conversation would be super important as Xavier would know eren's plan (or so he thinks) of reducing marley to ash. Also the warriors job is made progressively harder without the jaw to ambush eren.
I want to think that eren does care for his friends and he's just hiding his sadness but i wish that eren just wanted historia to be kidnapped instead of killed because i don't want eren to be willing to sacrifice his friends for the greater good
This was incredible, and I absolutely love the little factions and scheming for power going on in Paradis, though I have to ask, why does Eren care about Zeke being fed to Rod? In the original I get he didn't want anything to happen to Historia, but it seems like it would be ideal to have Rod eat Zeke and then start up the rumbling, why does Eren want Zeke to be the one he uses?
My best guess is that because the founder ymir only listens to those of royal blood, rod being the key for eren could potentially end in disaster for the island. Just a guess of course, as eren does not learn about this in the canon timeline until he and zeke enter the paths
Basically this Eren is hyper-focused on achieving his destiny. His entire self-worth is tied up in it. And in his vision, he saw Zeke in the paths with him. So in Eren’s mind, anything that threatens Zeke is a threat to him saving the world.
@@thenenhunter2600 Ah I see, that makes sense and is quite fitting given both that we see it play out in the original with instructing Grisha to kill all but Rod, and as he knows how it's supposed to go, Eren will make sure that no matter what he gets where he needs to be. It's beautiful ruthlessness in both megalomania and duty to Eldia.
Damn Porco became even more of a Jobber than Reiner. They shouldn't have killed the only warrior who actually knew paradis well Just for failing as he had good Intel plus He would be better at Fighting scouts as he's done that before
One thing I forgot to mention is Porco's mental state isn't the best because of Ymir's presence as she killed Marcel. That contributed to him charging in and getting wasted.
@@thenenhunter2600 yeah but even in canon he was kinda a jobber like people and was easily defeated even as the jaw titan, He doesn't know how to deal with the scouts and freaked out when he was attacked by scouts in canon then Pieck saved him, but plus he doesn't have Reiners knowledge of the scouts And Reiner had way better experience compared to porco so I still think Feeding Reiner to porco was a rash decision on Marley's point, also does this mean Falco will become the armoured Titan in this timeline?
@@thenenhunter2600 Is he stronger than Reiner was During season 4 in canon, Cuz I feel like where Reiner lacked natural talent he had more experience as the Armoured Titan at that point and Reiner seems to have a talent that he can take a good beating and still keep getting back up and this doesn't just relate to his Titan as He Showed this when Annie beat him half to death and He just got up and got her in a sleepers hold basically while Reiner wasn't the best fighter he could take more of a beating then any other shifter, I'm not Sure Porco has this resilience within him So In a way I think Reiner was Well suited to the armoured Titan more than Porco in that regard.
As suggestions, Can you do What if Zeke joined Eren after he found out who he was What if Zeke got the armourd titan What if Zeke took the war hammer titan instead of eren
6:31 About the Armoured Titan... I actually think it's armour would evolve based on the current technology, so Thunder Spears could potentially be less effective on it.
Man, part 2 was so fucking interesting (I even watched part 1 again to put all of the elements together), I love how everyone has their own motives and secrets and political factions. I'm still sad about Sasha's death, but it makes sense since the attack on Marley is nearly the same (and also, Sasha's death is probably the best written death in AOT since there is a lot of symbolism and characters development around the event). You didn't really touch on that, but are Falco and Gabbi in Paradis, under the Scouts' custody? I bet Gabbi is even more extreme in this version of the story, I wonder if she'll follow the same path of "redemption" (more like, "opening her eyes to the nuance of the world") as canon or not? Really like how Kenny isn't loyal to anyone, it's very in character for him. Honestly, Eren and Zeke are kinda dumb for trusting him. But also, Eren truly has a god complex (I like it btw, there is no weird "Eren is a genocidal monster but he's also our best friend saving us so let's forgive him for everything" in this version, Eren basically becomes the main antagonist and THAT'S IT), so he may have become kind of blind on some subjects. And how he ordered for Historia to be killed?? Cold, that's really cold. LOVE how Ymir's purpose stays the same even as the political mess gets more and more complicated! She's like, "oh, Eren is a bastard stealing the Armored Titan for himself" and she still remains focused on Historia. Btw, it's nice to see her plan to protect Historia work (for once), even if it's not ideal. Can't wait for them to face each other after this "betrayal". Also it's nice that their kindness toward Xavier was not for nothing: he IS loyal to Historia, even though he's working with Eren and I think it's a nice touch to his character. Also, is Porco dead?? And if so, who will get the Armored Titan after him?? And what about Annie, she's still in her crystallised form in the cave? Are Armin and Hitch telling her the news year after year? Mikasa is also not really present in this story yet (but I don't mind), I wonder if she'll side with Eren or Ymir on this - or stay in the weird middle ground (even if it's not possible to NOT choose a side). Same goes for Armin. Jean and Connie will definitely side with Ymir, with the way he reacted after Sasha's death. Plus, I don't understand why Eren is all stressed about Marley destroying Paradis in this version. Marley is a weakened nation anyway, with enemies all around it and very few titans in their possession. On the other hand, Paradis has three (or even five if we count the Armored Titan and the Founding Titan) titans. So yeah, what's the necessity of the rumbling in this situation?? I bet Historia would have some leverage with Marley during potential negotiations. Wonder what Erwin is preparing, too?? Kinda want for the Erwin/Levi/Hange trio to unite and cook their own plan against Eren and Zeke (and Xavier). ANYWAY, can't wait for part 3, this is by far my favourite AU of yours (well, I mean Ymir is my fav character in AOT and she's aliiiiive and has a role in the main plot, so this is really the best ❤)! Thank you for making these videos, I'll see you next time byyyyyyyye
I’m guessing this will be a major battle Ymir and Xavier they might not even try to help eren zeke probably would help eren the scout definitely might and well if it goes like the anime possibly falco or maybe just maybe gabi eat someone
heyo I have a What If I've suggested before (if it's not too annoying to ask again but I' love to see) that breaking some logic so things get relatively to the actual show without the attack titan influence Eren Kruger-Grisha Yeager-and Eren Yeager have the Armored Titan Ksaver and Zeke have the Colossal Titan giving Reiner the Attack and Bertholdt the Beast Titan but also meaning it would be Zeke, Annie and Bertholdt going to Pardis while Reiner the most basic Titan out of the bunch and Pieck stay at Marley sorry for asking again just an interesting idea I'd love to see you spin into a What If
@@New_frisk I have a different idea. Marcel was much more charismatic than Reiner and much more psychologically composed. Also, I don't think what you brought up would be the main issue. The main issue would be breaking the inner gate. Although Marcel would most likely find some way to get around that, most likely eating Ymir in an act of desperation to gain back the Armored Titan, although I would want Ymir to stay alive so let's just say Marcel and Annie work together to break the inner gate. Also, I think that instead of Annie joining the MPs, Marcel would. Like in the 'What if Marcel Survived' series, Levi squad would fight the Jaw Titan in the forest, but in that timeline, Marcel had Annie backing him up. In this timeline, he would be completely alone, so he would likely get captured and kept in an underground prison. The rest of the story from here is for The Nen Hunter to decide.
I'm not gonna lie when you first introduced this oc I cringed I was really expecting this to turn out like those shitty fanfic you find on tumblr but I really like the ideas you present especially with the cult of the attack titan so I just wanted to say good job
Best believe there was a lot of cringing still on my end. But a rule I was following was focusing on the main characters and plots, and only mentioning the OC when they'd impact the story or characters. Plus I always wanted more details on Eren Krueger and I figured I could expand on it through the OC.
@@thenenhunter2600 you definitely nailed it also quick question I was wondering if you plan on continuing the what if zeke and pieck where sent to paradis storyline
What if everyone morals were inverted as in nice characters are cold hearted and ruthless and ruthless characters like Kenny is more chilled out like he stays and take cares of Levi.
We meet again Ymir
Great video The Xavier back story is great
Also no jawhammer sad but not surprised Eren would do that
Yup, Eren basically has no tolerance for anyone even threatening his destiny. And the thought of Ymir accidentally consuming it caused him to flip out.
@@thenenhunter2600 so if Ymir had gotten it would he have got her next
Yup, Eren would have taken her out, after a brief freak out.
Thanks for the video!
Xavier is a cool name
Imagining a Xavier in real life doesn’t make me think of a cool person but ay we’re all different
I like how Marley has been punished here. No Jaw Titan, no Colossal Titan and no Female Titan mean they lost the war against the Mid-East Allied Forces and as a result, Marley is forced to cede the peninsula they most likely gained through unequal treaty back then back to the Mid-East Eyalets.
And even if this is not similar to the Heraclius Plan of mine, I can see somewhat similar result if all cards are played right. Marley attacked Paradis alone will definitely ended in total disaster for Marley. At worst, the Rumbling happened. At best, Marley became a laughingstock in front of the entire world in what most likely be internationally described as "Marley's folly military expedition" or something like that.
As for the Mid-East Eyalets, I can see them tried to prevent other nations from joining into the anti-Paradis alliance with Marley under the pretext that it might actually lead to the Rumbling and that the raid in Liberio is just Paradis' warning shot to leave the island alone.
Also, have you ever imagined the scenario in which that Willy Tybur survived and his sister is taken as the political hostage instead? I think this is when Willy will become emotionally compromised due to the desire to make sure his sister is safe. But I guess this is also why Eren and Zeke planned to take Willy out first because Eren can finally take Lara out and gain the Warhammer Titan as well without someone like Armin to come and suggest to him the idea about taking Lara as a hostage to make sure Marley won't attack their home.
By the way, which of your AOT story do you intended to put the Heraclius Plan into action? Aside the one where Dina most likely eaten one of the Titan Shifters and become the Queen of Paradis and possibly bearing some children for Levi, of course.
Here's what I think will happen in part 3, (let's see how much is right)
Kenny won't give up Historia's location and would use her as insurance for Ymir and Xavier's cooperation. Meanwhile, I think eren would be on his way to wall Sina for a couple of reasons:
1) Zeke is somewhere in wall Sina
2) Kenny's gang is strongest in wall Sina and he would require their assistance.
At the same time, with Erwin in charge the situation changes drastically. Erwin would likely be 3 steps ahead of everyone and would have planned to transfer erens Titan, either to Xavier or Ymir or to a scout. He would likely have mobilized the scouts under the pretext of a marleyean attack (but in reality to allow the transfer of eren and Zeke Titan). I believe so as Erwin would note how the raid on Liberio only ruined paradis image on the world stage and gave eren more Titan power. Given the situation I think that Xavier and Erens conversation would be super important as Xavier would know eren's plan (or so he thinks) of reducing marley to ash. Also the warriors job is made progressively harder without the jaw to ambush eren.
Great video as always
I want to think that eren does care for his friends and he's just hiding his sadness but i wish that eren just wanted historia to be kidnapped instead of killed because i don't want eren to be willing to sacrifice his friends for the greater good
Great video 👍
This was incredible, and I absolutely love the little factions and scheming for power going on in Paradis, though I have to ask, why does Eren care about Zeke being fed to Rod? In the original I get he didn't want anything to happen to Historia, but it seems like it would be ideal to have Rod eat Zeke and then start up the rumbling, why does Eren want Zeke to be the one he uses?
My best guess is that because the founder ymir only listens to those of royal blood, rod being the key for eren could potentially end in disaster for the island. Just a guess of course, as eren does not learn about this in the canon timeline until he and zeke enter the paths
Basically this Eren is hyper-focused on achieving his destiny. His entire self-worth is tied up in it. And in his vision, he saw Zeke in the paths with him. So in Eren’s mind, anything that threatens Zeke is a threat to him saving the world.
@@thenenhunter2600 Ah I see, that makes sense and is quite fitting given both that we see it play out in the original with instructing Grisha to kill all but Rod, and as he knows how it's supposed to go, Eren will make sure that no matter what he gets where he needs to be. It's beautiful ruthlessness in both megalomania and duty to Eldia.
Damn Porco became even more of a Jobber than Reiner.
They shouldn't have killed the only warrior who actually knew paradis well Just for failing as he had good Intel plus He would be better at Fighting scouts as he's done that before
One thing I forgot to mention is Porco's mental state isn't the best because of Ymir's presence as she killed Marcel. That contributed to him charging in and getting wasted.
@@thenenhunter2600 yeah but even in canon he was kinda a jobber like people and was easily defeated even as the jaw titan, He doesn't know how to deal with the scouts and freaked out when he was attacked by scouts in canon then Pieck saved him, but plus he doesn't have Reiners knowledge of the scouts And Reiner had way better experience compared to porco so I still think Feeding Reiner to porco was a rash decision on Marley's point, also does this mean Falco will become the armoured Titan in this timeline?
@@thenenhunter2600the thought of Erne about to eat the warhammer, porco rushing and transforming only to get bodied is funny to me
Oh make no mistake, Porco is a personified jobber. He just had an excuse this time. And I can’t answer your last question
@@thenenhunter2600 Is he stronger than Reiner was During season 4 in canon, Cuz I feel like where Reiner lacked natural talent he had more experience as the Armoured Titan at that point and Reiner seems to have a talent that he can take a good beating and still keep getting back up and this doesn't just relate to his Titan as He Showed this when Annie beat him half to death and He just got up and got her in a sleepers hold basically while Reiner wasn't the best fighter he could take more of a beating then any other shifter, I'm not Sure Porco has this resilience within him
So In a way I think Reiner was Well suited to the armoured Titan more than Porco in that regard.
Love these videos my guy, keep up the good work
This was great!!! Can’t wait for part 3
Can't wait for part 3!
As suggestions, Can you do
What if Zeke joined Eren after he found out who he was
What if Zeke got the armourd titan
What if Zeke took the war hammer titan instead of eren
thank you bro .
Can't wait for part 2! No really, I can't wait
Part 3* my bad
6:31
About the Armoured Titan... I actually think it's armour would evolve based on the current technology, so Thunder Spears could potentially be less effective on it.
I never heard about the armor evolving based on current technology, are you referring to the serum quality used?
I don't know what that is, but I don't really think so?
@@thenenhunter2600I think the reason reiner's armor is so weak is because of his dying will to live.
How would that happen?
I don't know, maybe when technology surpasses the Armoured Titan, Ymir Fritz just sculpts a new type of hardening.
Now I'm curious if Ymir would talk to Gabi and Falco. Also, when the wine gets in Falco' mouth, would Ymir sacrifice herself to detitanize him?
Ymir fighting Pieck! 2/3 female Titan shifter waifus fighting. 🥺😭
Man, part 2 was so fucking interesting (I even watched part 1 again to put all of the elements together), I love how everyone has their own motives and secrets and political factions. I'm still sad about Sasha's death, but it makes sense since the attack on Marley is nearly the same (and also, Sasha's death is probably the best written death in AOT since there is a lot of symbolism and characters development around the event). You didn't really touch on that, but are Falco and Gabbi in Paradis, under the Scouts' custody? I bet Gabbi is even more extreme in this version of the story, I wonder if she'll follow the same path of "redemption" (more like, "opening her eyes to the nuance of the world") as canon or not?
Really like how Kenny isn't loyal to anyone, it's very in character for him. Honestly, Eren and Zeke are kinda dumb for trusting him. But also, Eren truly has a god complex (I like it btw, there is no weird "Eren is a genocidal monster but he's also our best friend saving us so let's forgive him for everything" in this version, Eren basically becomes the main antagonist and THAT'S IT), so he may have become kind of blind on some subjects. And how he ordered for Historia to be killed?? Cold, that's really cold.
LOVE how Ymir's purpose stays the same even as the political mess gets more and more complicated! She's like, "oh, Eren is a bastard stealing the Armored Titan for himself" and she still remains focused on Historia. Btw, it's nice to see her plan to protect Historia work (for once), even if it's not ideal. Can't wait for them to face each other after this "betrayal". Also it's nice that their kindness toward Xavier was not for nothing: he IS loyal to Historia, even though he's working with Eren and I think it's a nice touch to his character.
Also, is Porco dead?? And if so, who will get the Armored Titan after him?? And what about Annie, she's still in her crystallised form in the cave? Are Armin and Hitch telling her the news year after year? Mikasa is also not really present in this story yet (but I don't mind), I wonder if she'll side with Eren or Ymir on this - or stay in the weird middle ground (even if it's not possible to NOT choose a side). Same goes for Armin. Jean and Connie will definitely side with Ymir, with the way he reacted after Sasha's death.
Plus, I don't understand why Eren is all stressed about Marley destroying Paradis in this version. Marley is a weakened nation anyway, with enemies all around it and very few titans in their possession. On the other hand, Paradis has three (or even five if we count the Armored Titan and the Founding Titan) titans. So yeah, what's the necessity of the rumbling in this situation?? I bet Historia would have some leverage with Marley during potential negotiations.
Wonder what Erwin is preparing, too?? Kinda want for the Erwin/Levi/Hange trio to unite and cook their own plan against Eren and Zeke (and Xavier).
ANYWAY, can't wait for part 3, this is by far my favourite AU of yours (well, I mean Ymir is my fav character in AOT and she's aliiiiive and has a role in the main plot, so this is really the best ❤)! Thank you for making these videos, I'll see you next time byyyyyyyye
I’m guessing this will be a major battle Ymir and Xavier they might not even try to help eren zeke probably would help eren the scout definitely might and well if it goes like the anime possibly falco or maybe just maybe gabi eat someone
What do you anticipate being your next video? No pressure or anything, but I personally hope the answer is what if levi squad survived part 5.
heyo I have a What If I've suggested before (if it's not too annoying to ask again but I' love to see) that breaking some logic so things get relatively to the actual show without the attack titan influence
Eren Kruger-Grisha Yeager-and Eren Yeager have the Armored Titan
Ksaver and Zeke have the Colossal Titan
giving Reiner the Attack and Bertholdt the Beast Titan but also meaning it would be Zeke, Annie and Bertholdt going to Pardis while Reiner the most basic Titan out of the bunch and Pieck stay at Marley
sorry for asking again just an interesting idea I'd love to see you spin into a What If
part 3 when bro
You should do a video on what if Zeke never caught erens head now that’s a good one please and thank you
Suggestion: What if Ymir ate Reiner instead of Marcel.
they're gonna retreat back to marley since reiner was the one that told them to keep doing the Mission
@@New_frisk I have a different idea. Marcel was much more charismatic than Reiner and much more psychologically composed. Also, I don't think what you brought up would be the main issue. The main issue would be breaking the inner gate. Although Marcel would most likely find some way to get around that, most likely eating Ymir in an act of desperation to gain back the Armored Titan, although I would want Ymir to stay alive so let's just say Marcel and Annie work together to break the inner gate. Also, I think that instead of Annie joining the MPs, Marcel would. Like in the 'What if Marcel Survived' series, Levi squad would fight the Jaw Titan in the forest, but in that timeline, Marcel had Annie backing him up. In this timeline, he would be completely alone, so he would likely get captured and kept in an underground prison. The rest of the story from here is for The Nen Hunter to decide.
Can't wait for part 3 of Battle of Paradis vs Marley; RIP my favorite potato girl, For those who hated Gabi the worst character
We still smoking that Sasha pack 🚬 🔥
I'm not gonna lie when you first introduced this oc I cringed I was really expecting this to turn out like those shitty fanfic you find on tumblr but I really like the ideas you present especially with the cult of the attack titan so I just wanted to say good job
Best believe there was a lot of cringing still on my end. But a rule I was following was focusing on the main characters and plots, and only mentioning the OC when they'd impact the story or characters. Plus I always wanted more details on Eren Krueger and I figured I could expand on it through the OC.
@@thenenhunter2600 you definitely nailed it also quick question I was wondering if you plan on continuing the what if zeke and pieck where sent to paradis storyline
I’ll definitely continue it. I plan on completing every what if I start.
I think that eren may have not wanted to sacrifice historia
Normally he wouldn’t but in this version he has no attachment to her, plus he views everybody as expendables to his destiny.
What if everyone morals were inverted as in nice characters are cold hearted and ruthless and ruthless characters like Kenny is more chilled out like he stays and take cares of Levi.