“Connor’s Wedding” with Jesse Armstrong, Mark Mylod, and Brian Cox | Succession Podcast S4 E3 | HBO
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- Опубліковано 8 кві 2023
- Host Kara Swisher is joined by series creator Jesse Armstrong and episode director Mark Mylod. Then she has a spirited conversation with actor Brian Cox.
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This episode was like an hour long anxiety attack
I was on the edge of my sofa the whole time!
Omg yes!!!! That's all I kept thinking..... when is this gonna end but loved every minute!!!
Facts!!
I was waiting for a jump scare
I thought he'd come back to life
It’s right up there with that Uber eats episode of the bear
The fact that it was so early on and so unexpected, because that's how death is. Sudden and shocking, and they nailed that atmosphere this episode.
Life comes at you fast, but death comes faster.
Whenever there's an HBO episode with "wedding" in the title we just have to prepare ourselves to have the trajectory of our lives changed. This was masterful. Truly.
This was an episode for all kids who lost a parent unexpectedly. It was exactly like that.
Exactly this. The loss of my mother is still pretty present in my mind and this episode was nearly like reliving the whole experience. It was so intense and sad and cathartic.
100%! my mom was sick with cancer but she died un expectedly and that what this reminded me of brought me right back!!!
Same for me
I, along with my mum and brother, were the ones doing the cpr on my Dad in January. It was so sudden, he had dropped me off at work just 20 minutes earlier. I got the call and sprinted home, but it was always too late. The emotions and shock, as well as immediate pragmatism, were captured perfectly here. The only thing this episode didn't cover I would say (not that it necessarily needed to) is that cpr is REALLY draining after a while, it's hard to keep it up after 4-5 minutes. Those plane crew members were (and I'm sure are in real life planes) awesome to keep going so long!
I wish everyone all the very best who is dealing with this sort of trauma. I am thankful in my case I have great memories of my Dad, we didn't leave on bad terms, and he didn't suffer.
Amen. To all of us, days, years or decades ago, it hurts.
Deepest sympathies.🌹
6 mins in: Logan what scheme are you cooking?
12 mins in: This is low even for Logan
20 mins in: Oh….
So true! 😂😂😂
Absolutely…I continued to think…noooo, it isn’t happening…
Same, bruh
I was sure it was a scheme until they took him of the plane in the bag 😢
@@lilag10 I wasn't as skeptical. I was convinced when I saw folks doing chest compressions on him.
Do not mess with Gerri is what I learned during the episode.
SHe used her psychic powers to get back at Logan
No weapon formed against her shall prosper.
kinda rooting for gerri
My guess is she was the leak to the press
NGL the support all the siblings were giving each other made me tear up more than Logan actually dying.
poor connor too
Kendall and Shiv holding hands? The 3 way hug near the end? Connor comforting his siblings when he has every right to be mad at a father who never loved him? It was all so excellent, wow.
The hug was improvised
First time I felt they were human!
Oh absolutely - I wasn't sad that Logan died at all - he's a monster! He's entertaining of course, I'll miss him as a character.
Love how they titled this episode. The wedding was the smallest event in this entire episode. Stunning episode, just WOW!
Yes the dark humour of the brides honesty
As someone with several brothers and sisters who lost my father this episode really nails that mood and the emotional rollercoaster
same here. emotionally, it all rang so true. the suddenness, the doubt and difficulty in acceptance. Then the pressure and anxiety of being connected only by phone and having to make decisions you are not able to properly make..
The goodbyes over the phone, not knowing if he can even hear them anymore. GUTTED.
The shock of it, so perfectly captured. Looking to your siblings for any information, to be reassured it wasn’t real, the frustration, distress…the phone…gut wrenching.
this episode fully pushed me into an anxiety attack because of its accuracy
I thought Tom was pranking the adult kids, but as the episode progressed, I said OMG! It’s real! Shocked. . .
I was saying the same thing! Lol
I thought the same thing!
How did y’all think that? I assume just because of how shocking and unexpected it is. But Tom isn’t the type to do that
@@PurgPurg The last thing I thought would happen was Logan dying in the third episode of this season, so I kept thinking it had to be a prank. I was wrong. It was a great plot twist along with great acting by all.
At first I it was some crazy Logan plan to nuke the stock market or end his kids’ rebellion then as it went on I was like ‘ it’s really happening ‘ Brian Cox is an acting juggernaut , and I wanted more resolution with Kendall but this defenitely shakes things up , will defenitely be missed.
Shiv's anxious reaction when she was on the phone while Logan was receiving CPR was exactly how I reacted when I was watching the doctors doing CPR on my mom when she was dying. It felt like the earth was about to implode under me and I couldn't do anything while also being in denial. It felt like I was watching myself and reliving that dreaded time again.
RIP to your mother, sorry you had to go through that❤
Brian Cox speaking his mind is hilarious. Makes the writers room sound a lot less planned out than they podcast usually sets them up to seem
My father died overseas during the peak of COVID and my siblings and I all had to be on the phone remotely from different places on a call where we realized he was going to die and we had to mourn on a group call and this episode completely brought me back to that kind of surteal, horrible memory. Well done to Jesse, Mark and the entire team.
I'm so sorry you went through that.
😥❤🙏
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Matthew Macfadyen was SO good in this episode, when he's on the phone you can hear Tom trying to hold it together and slightly failing. Just so subtle and brilliant. And the kids! Each one's reaction was so different and true to character and heavy. I loved it.
Absolutely agree. He didn’t have the more ‘showier’ bits like the siblings but he managed to convey so much on those phone calls…
Brilliant brilliant. Brian Cox understands it all. Terrific interview.
When Shiv was told Logan was gone and she said, Um, No! I can’t have that; I was utterly gutted. All performances in this episode were amazingly done and eye-opening to the point that each character center was rocked.
I audibly gasped and had to pause the episode for a few seconds when Rome goes "they think dad died" and Shiv goes "no, I can't have that"
one of my favorite TV scenes ever. incredible.
This episode GUTTED me. When my father passed, I found out via the telephone. And at first I was told the exact same thing as Tom said initially to Roman "your father is sick". It's been almost 30 years since that day, and this episode took me right back to that moment.
same - 25 yrs
😢❤❤
I thought there were so many great scenes, but one of the most underrated is Karolina's acting on the plane, her composure, her iciness even. There is also the moment when Logan boards the plane and Karolina is informed that Gerri is fired. She keeps her pokerface as she discusses with Logan, but her expression instantly changes once his back is turned, because she knows everyone in his entourage is disposable.
She is a fabulous actress!
This episode shows what TV can be. I’ve been waiting years for something like this.
Amazing acting by all cast but this was Kieran Culkin's Emmy moment
YESSSSS! I agree!
And Sarah!!
Idk Kendall at the end probably hit me the hardest. Like a look of regret for everything and not going to see Logans body and also major relief
They could both win
Agreeed he should get an emmy for this
I think many of us felt like Roman , looking for hope. I can say from my personal experience ( my Dad’s passing) they captured so many real -life elements. Especially how things change so suddenly and the stunning effect it gives you…the regrets on that final interaction, the disbelief, it’s horrendous and they captured it as only good artists can
I think roman wanted jerri to hug him but she didn't poor guy
I’ve read a dozen articles and listened to a half a dozen interviews and I’m still in denial that it happened. Kendall and Roman are not going to be okay, but I am not sure I am either.
I can't thank the whole team of people on the show for this episode enough. This was incredibly cathartic for me to watch. I haven't been able to deal with my mother's passing last year, but as I was watching this episode, months worth of repressed emotions and tears came pouring out. Thank you for portraying an unexpected death in such a real way.
As someone who has distanced herself emotionally from a narc parent but still loves him very much, this episode hit me SO hard. It felt like my own dad died. And I have all these mixed feelings that parallel with Roman - denial of his death, denial of who he really was (“you were good”, “you were a good dad), feelings of anger (Kendall’s lack of forgiveness), all their sadness. It just hurt. It’s crazy how - losing even a toxic parent can hit so deep. You can love someone AND dislike who they are.
thats the complexity of human emotion. being able to portray that complexity is equally as impressive sometimes and this was a masterclass in storytelling and acting. i've never seen a death scene handled like that and it immersed me in a way i didn't think could happen from tv/film. absolutely phenomenal work
I had a very difficult relationship with my dad - he died suddenly like this -will be 25 yrs this summer - and I had trouble breathing through this episode - I had to stop a couple times and gather myself . So I can completely relate to what you are saying . The acting /writing of this show is impeccable.
This is so true ❤
People ask what’s the appeal of a show about 3 nepo babies and I respond with this (among other things of course): you get a chance to explore some of the most human emotions you will ever witness from a TV show. This episode captured grief in a way that I haven’t seen before and seeing Logan’s lifeless body in the background shook me. Beautifully crafted episode & series.
There are people out there who suffer far far worse than these people and their emotions are more worthy of exploring.
Also there are more “human” emotions on display in plenty of other television shows.
As good as it is, this series unfortunately ends up romanticizing and perpetuating exactly what it claims to be criticizing.
@@lukasribin4168 That feels a bit like saying "Hamlet" and "Macbeth" romanticize and perpetuate monarchism. Depicting something isn't perpetuating it.
I seriously thought he was faking for at least twenty minutes to get a reaction from the siblings. I’m still in shock. I wanted to give Shiv a big hug. Lord knows that messy, selfish girlie needs one from someone.
She wont let you touch her
@@itsmeprasad1987 I know. It’s so very sad.
Yea i was waiting for logan to reveal that it was a prank
I went to market and then.....................................,
The prank thing was my first reaction too. I didn't believe it was real until I saw the shot of his body lying on the floor with Tom's phone next to it.
I was on edge throughout this ep. Another perfect episode. This season is incredible!!!
They knocked this episode out of the park! Award winning for everyone involved!
Tom was money in the his scene. He's such a sniveling worm normally but he got just the right balance of compassion and at times, he would turn right back into worm mode.
I think his shining moments in the episode was when he kept telling Kendall and Roman to get Shiv on the phone, and then after she did the press conference, he hugged her. They are small moments, but they were amazing Tom moments.
Agreed. As an actor, MacFadyen had to navigate between bullying Greg, genuine compassion for the siblings, a sense of loss - about Logan and/or his probable career trajectory from now on, and ambivalent feelings about Shiv. All while presenting us with a believably complicated character.
I went through all of the stages of grief in this one episode! Denial, I kept laughing because I thought he was playing a sick prank on the kids! Anger, because I couldn’t see Logan, and i needed proof that he was dying! Bargaining, just who is in control? It has to be Shiv! No, Kendall, and then the sadness and depression kicked in, and I’m crying…..then I had no choice but to reach acceptance! What a great show!!!!!
This episode will be shown in film schools for years & years to come - to show how actors convey real life emotions. The cast did a brilliant job.
Long Live the King. What an amazing episode! HBO and the wedding episodes are killing me
This episode broke me. It was as real as real life. And the change in tempo from quirky wedding, to a crashing stop, the music stopped, time stopped. Everyone just staring at each other, like what do we do?
I cried. The acting was amazing!
What an episode. Take a bow Brian Cox. And yes, I went through something similar when I lost my mom. Then I got stuck at LAX overnight while just trying to get back to her as she remained on life support, more for my benefit really. I could sit there and say good bye to her before they removed her from life support.
Exquisite episode that perfectly captured the devastating and visceral reality of grief and panic. We ALL need chest compressions after seeing it! Bravo Jesse Armstrong.
The moment I saw Shiv in Black to a SUMMER Wedding, I was like okay here we go
As soon as she appeared on screen, I remarked, “Wow. She looks like she’s going to a funeral, not a wedding.” I never would have thought…
@@sest6621exactly what I thought! They were all so grim
When I turned on the TV to watch the episode, I was expecting the most normal plot possible, but then I ended up just as shocked as Kerry.
A brilliant episode in every single way. The writing, the callbacks to the things done and said before, how grief is captured.. everyone's acting was phenomenal. The direction, editing, blocking. Quite literally everything was amazing. The standout, unsurprisingly, was again Jeremy Strong. The way his voice changes and how he holds himself, how he takes charge, trying to hold himself and his siblings together. Him standing aloof on the deck and at the end. Him on call with Frank. Him saying I love you but I can't forgive you and its okay. Him saying shivvy, honey. The silent tears and the snot!!! The way the camera follows him.. and the ending shot; just him in his pain. And many more details that will only be visible on rewatches. The whole episode a marvel through and through, can't wait to see how this season continues to gut us.
It was extra tragic because in the last two episodes, it felt like Logan was actually humanizing himself a bit. You could tell he was missing his kids and feeling a bit unfulfilled with things. And that scene at the karaoke club was the most genuine and real his character has ever felt I think. Yet still always felt very Logan. The writing and acting in the show is just top notch. And as others mentioned, the way they handled the death and reactions felt so realistic.
This episode perfectly captured the day of loss - all of your plans and conflicts and minor irritations are just over in a second of time. This is exactly how it happens. Absolute perfection.
Brilliant insight from Brian Cox, amazing episode and an amazing character. Truly one of the best shows ever made.
An Hour of juxtaposition, tragedy and a complete masterpiece in the nature of grief submerged in pure shock.
Brilliant episode. Logan Roy was a bigger than life man…he died off screen in a way, (they showed him really quick while getting shock treatment to revive him) Death comes for everyone, no matter who you are.
I think we all went though the stages of grief during this episode
Never thought my eyes could water for any of these characters. SO GOOD
They're right. I felt everything the characters felt this episode. Maybe one of the best episodes of TV I have ever seen.
I'm supposed to go to bed and I'm just shook. Speechless 🤯🤯🤯
cried...devastating ep...superb acting...one of the best eps of tv
This hit so close to home. Anyone who has experienced a loss from a far can relate to this episode. The captured the shock, confusion and denial perfectly. Killing Logan off screen was such a brilliant choice. Keeping the audience on the same page as the characters was painful.
The worst part about this episode is we won't get anymore of Brian Cox 😢
An honest to God breathtaking masterpiece!
Everybody that lost someone knows the brilliance of this episode
Brilliant episode. TV that draws you in as a participant, rather than keep you as an observer, is incredibly difficult to do. Everyone on the team from actors to crew brought it all together beautifully. Well done.
Arguably their BEST episode of the entire series! And Logan is barley in it! This show is on another level. Just hand out all the Emmys for the show and actors already!
The scene with the kids on the phone with their dying father was the strongest scene in Succession imho.
I liked so much how they did this. If you have had anyone just die. Its exactly like this. Pure shock!!
I’m still feeling numb
I feel numb too, just sad and empty
You have the room.
Brilliant idea just having it happen. Real death never happens when you expect it. People rarely give final speeches or have any clue it's coming. It just happens, and people try to react.
YES the guy with the white beard wont wait
Brian Cox sounds intimidating AF in this interview lol just as frightening as Logan
He's Scottish, that's why
Definitely some strong opinions
He is 😂. I saw a tiktok where he was screaming at someone off script like a PA . I was scared through the phone 😂
He likes acting but he has no time for the BS that comes with it. I respect that.
I think hes annoyed at how people think Logan is the devil and I fully agree. Don't get me wrong, he is brutal in many ways but he is definitely misunderstood. A good example is how people interpreted the scene of Logan giving his grandson the first bite. Many people thought hes showing kendall that hes ready to poison his grandon if necessary and thats how evil he is when in actuality hes just responding to Kendalls act of swapping the plates and the ridiculousness of it.
The show is so much more complex then Logan the bad guy, and Kendall the good guy trying to take over. Which is why I love it.
The absurdity of life was illustrated so well when the boat takes off.
I literally talked out loud to the screen.
this episode was an absolute writing masterpiece
I thought it was a joke, then we saw his face while he was on the floor - wow! This is only episode 3, I can't imagine what else they have in store for us.
praying that kerry is not pregnant with logan’s child and he does not leave his empire to them
The acting could not have been any better! Just awesome!!
I really thought he was faking for like, 30mins.
I love how Brian is just Logan
Some of the most BRILLIANT TV I've ever watched (and I've watched a lot of TV). This was like watching TV, a movie, and a play all wrapped up in one. BRAVO to all!
I kept waiting for him to come back to life!!! Until the very end I believed there was some hope still
I genuinely thought Logan was faking it/testing them at first. I think it was because we didn't see his body for quite some time. Either that or I was in denial about him dying or just expecting it based on all of the shocking things he's done in past seasons.
takes balls to eliminate the lead but the fallout IS where the story lies.
💯💯💯
Okay the scene that got me the most was the shot of the chauffeur. Sorry he looked so lost it was so sad
This episode really triggers people who went through this in real life, the unexpected death and reaction is just raw.
Brian Cox legitimately thinks Logan is a victim of his children. I know it’s common to empathize with your character, but I feel like that’s pretty delusional. Love Brian tho
It's exactly how his character in the show would feel so it would be weird if he didn't feel that way himself
@@jordanstephens4178 there’s a reason it’s called ACTING. You’re portraying the emotions and thoughts of a character, not your own personality. Brian is playing an extremely evil and vile character, so it’s definitely odd that he’s agreeing and sympathizing with the character so much.
@@reecedubinsky1157 I mean his explanation of the scene in Italy is pretty much what I took from it as well. He knew Kendall was trying to get Logan to think he might have poisoned him, but he also knew Kendall wouldn’t ACTUALLY have done that. So he took the mind game and flipped it. I don’t think Brian Cox has ever said Logan was a great man lol. “He does love his children but they don’t honor him” that whole section sounds like he’s explaining his character’s POV.
@@justinsayswtf don’t get me wrong I do think he understands the character and I don’t think he actually thinks like Logan in reality lol. I guess I’ve just found it odd how much he’ll usually agree with or rationalize logans decisions, when there’s just a certain point with people like that where you literally can’t forgive them and try to rationalize their behavior, as the kids have slowly figured out.
Sorry but you need to stop conflating the actor and the character. The actor needs to understand the character to play it truthfully. The character thinks his children don't honour, him because they don't want to emulate him or learn from him. He gave the space to choose to do so, but they each chose paths that showed that they did not understand the man who was their father. They never had the desire to take him or what he did seriously, by their own volition. That's why even though he loved them, he could not help but be disappointed in them. They only saw the status and the role, but not the meaning or what it took to do what he did. So, with that he has no real legacy to leave in the world. It dies with him, as there is no-one up to the task.
I truly thought this was a fake out for at least half the episode. Until I saw the body after they stopped CPR lying there on the floor as a blur, I just kept denying it was over. I think it was a brilliant move on the writers part to allow the audience to see how this event will change Waystar and its employees. I have to say there were very subtle things that I noticed too. Connor has always been a little bit left out and even in this big family moment, they didn't even give him a thought. Not once did those siblings think, we should get Connor until after they saw him. I wondered how long it would be before he would be notified. I also noticed the dynamic has not shifted completely between Jerri and Roman. He has definite mother issues and Jerri was a surrogate to those issues. The vulnerability he showed when he said he was sad when it was just the two of them, and she just walked out of the room hit home too. He needed that mother figure. Someone to hug him. I have noticed a maturity in Roman this season and I hope it continues. He is my favorite character by far.
Brian Cox is the best forever❤
Logan will be missed. I am still in shock 😭😭😭
RiP this isnt MARVEL OR starwars we will miss you
Great team Michael and Jesse nailed it! The storytelling was so intense! It felt as if someone I knew died without warning. It was jarring just like it happens in real life.
And Mylod captured it so well. The way he shot this it felt like it was happening in real time. Even just the little cut -away to the Logan’s driver sadly waiting by the plane, realizing the old man was gone.
Like a dog waiting by the door for its owner to walk in. But the owner just passed away.
I think what also needs to be praised, is the editing of this episode. For the most part they really got the audience think if this was real or some sort of manipulation. Before they showed the body.
The "Logan is not dead" conspiracy theory Brian thought of is incredible lol
they should as well cancel the next Emmys, right? Just give everything to this show already.
The show is brilliant thanks to incredible writers and incredible actors. Last night's episode? Off the charts incredible!
Anyone else feel like Brian Cox was being extremely Logan in this interview ? Kind of scary and a bit rude ?
Think he is being totally honest and not just stating the “party line”:
I lost my mother in Corona era, I couldn't come back to my country and I didn't get the chance to talk to her before she goes . . I go through my stages of grief like each siblings.. but I feel like this episode is such cathartic release for me.
Roman went inside the airplane to delete the voicemail from Logan's phone
I was going through all the feels along with them; literally had tears in my eyes.
What a masterpiece this was! Stunning television.
Great actor, Great Character.... Brian Cox you'll be missed.
“The thoughts of everyone at Heart of Midlothian Football Club and our supporters are with the Roy family upon hearing of the passing of club owner Logan Roy (1938-2023).
Mr. Roy was a true Scotsman and a titan of industry at Waystar | ROYCO. Having achieved so much in his business life, he was a force for good at Hearts. Our club will endeavour to carry Mr. Roy’s legacy into our remaining matches.”
HBO has a wedding-gone-wrong kink
This episode helped me mend broken fences with my own father. The honest window into humanity, even that of a complicated man such as Logan Roy, gave me insight into my own existence in a way i didn't think possible. Thanks so much for making one of the most meaningful hours of television ever created.
This was a very enjoyable podcast after such a defining episode!! Kudos to Host Kara Swisher for being a very engaging host.
This is not my original thought, but clearly, someone in the writers room had somewhat of a similar experience to this. When you lose a parent, it's very unlikely that you go to the hospital and they give you one last heartfelt speech when they know it's the end, it just kinda happens out of the blue. Brilliant and brutal storytelling
Y'ALL ARE SO SICK FOR THIS EPISODE thank you we love you ♥
lov and empathy
logan always had a choice between family and business. his biggest weakness is that he would always try to pick both. both of which suffered because of it. the one episode he chooses business over his son’s wedding is when he dies. he doesn’t have a triumphant and cathartic death like most tv main characters, he goes out off screen. away from his family, instead with his business associates. the audience is just as taken aback by this as the children, such a bold move. it honestly had me feeling like this was bad writing but after some recollection i realize how genius this really is.
None of his children would have a seat in the inner circle based on their own merit, and that’s Logan’s weakness…including his inept children with important decisions, hoping one of them steps up and proves to have the killer instinct.
NEVER has the rug been pulled out from under them so quickly and so unexpectedly. It was an emotional earthquake ! They didn't know how to deal with this. Like the JOKER ONCE SAID, "WHO AM I WITHOUT BATMAN" ? Here's your "EMMY WINNING EPISODE" !
Logan is such a strong character that I could not believe he was really dead, CONGRADULATIONS.
I actually felt empathy for the kids ... especially Conner
Wow, just didn't see this coming 😔 Amazing episode 👌🏻
Well done! Well done! wow.. 🤯... it's been a LONG time since a series has really taken me on a journey and truly reflected life as we know it. Writers, producers, actors... 🙇♀!
Great podcast episode. Brian Cox interview was awesome