I would not be ashamed to carry either revolver. However, I would feel much better armed with a Colt's Detective Special (late 60s to early 70s edition) or even better a "snubby" S&W Model 19. I'm so old I just trust steel more than I do aluminum and/or polymer in my self-defense handguns. Yeah, I know, it's the 21st century get over myself. I just turned 70 so that ship has sailed. As usual I really enjoyed your video! Keep 'em comin'!!!
When I was a young guy, I would have never dreamed that a Ruger would cost more than a comparable Smith & Wesson. Back then, Smiths were always more highly finished and used forgings instead of castings where it counts. But that was before the "plastic revolution."
@PeterAngles-jq7gr Yeah, Ruger revolvers used to be good value....lots of brands have increased in price in the last few years, but Ruger revolvers seem to have more than the average.
@@BB-gr9hq S&W had no idea how expensive the "Hillary Hole" was going to be in the long run. It totally revived Ruger's double action revolver line. People started buying Rugers, and then S&W had some quality control issues like the two piece barrels that weren't centered, Ruger became many revolver fans first choice. The Hillary Hole is what opened the door because the aesthetic beauty of S&W revolvers had been half of their appeal and the stupid, ugly, HH ruined that.
Even though Ruger uses castings,it top quality....Bill Ruger wanted the strongest revolver...i believe he accomplished that with no side plates and investment castings.
LCR owner for 10 years in .38. Wouldn’t be able to get this gun away from me for anything. Thousands of rounds through it and carry it about 90% of the time over other carry guns I own. The anodizing is wearing off in a few spots. Favorite gun? Yes. Not even a question.
Nice comment to see. I have a family of gun owners and this is the gun I want to buy for myself. Looking for a 38 special revolver with light recoil that would be good to learn with.
I have the LCR .357 mag. Nice revolver. I stick with .38 Spl rounds for practice and .357 mag for a defensive load. It lets you know what you're using. You can use glow in the dark/florescent nail polish on the front sight to have your eyes pick up the front sight quicker.
The 642 was my first handgun. Bought it in 2007 when I qualified for my CCDW permit. Kept the boot grip on it. Since it was my first, I'll never get rid of it. It's a very convenient handgun. I don't shoot +P ammo in it. Thanks for the video, enjoyed it! 🤠
I carry my steel frame 640 S&W more and more now that my arthritis is getting worse. I'm looking for a load I can tolerate in my beloved 642. I'm going to try 148 grain wadcutters and maybe 125 grain .38 Specials (non +p). If that doesn't work I'm going to try .38 long Colt. I think with a non-expanding bullet it should penetrate sufficiently but I will have to test it.
@@gwidwockBuffalo Bore makes some stout lead hollow points. Not +p. Not very pleasant to shoot, which isn't the point of them. A bit pricey, but man do they look like they would tear it up.
@@johnelder4273 Berry's 148 gr DEWC with 2.9 gr TiteGroup should be nice for a J frame. Expanding projectiles need a lot of velocity and that means hotter loads as you are well aware. I have a 640-1 and shooting 357 magnums is murder on the hand. I only did that once. I like the all steel frame. Those Berry's should feel OK in the all steel frame.
I prefer the 642 to most other brand revolvers. Mine is an early model prior to being stamped +P. Smooth as silk too. Thanks for another great video. 👍👍
I agree, I have the LCRX with the hammer and love it. It does have the longer barrel. So I went with the 642 like Mixup has. Being DAO, I purchased the Performance Center model and it too has a great trigger. Can't go wrong with either in my opinion.
I’ve had my LCR for several years now and I really like it. I bought the 357 magnum version, because I wanted the steel frame, but I carry 38+p in it. I did put an aftermarket grip on it and it feels better.
I've owned/carried my LCR for years, installed some aftermarket grips, very happy with it. My wife is interested in adopting it because of the weight, size and ease of use.
Taped up my sp101 and spray painted the "trough" with flat black spray paint. I then put a hi-viz front sight on it and used the white rod. That provided contrast for my ancient eyes...
I have the S&W 442 and really enjoy that revolver. I kept the original grips on mine and if I put the revolver in my front pocket, it doesn’t really even print.
I have an old schol, 1968 S&W model 42 (the old, grip safety version) as my EDC. Gotta love those airweight j-frames, especially with wadcutters. Paul Harrell did a video on it, and it turned out the humble 148 grain wadcutter, chugging along at 660 fps, did as much damage to the meat target, as a +P, 158 grain SWHP going 780 fps - all thanks to the wadcutter bullet (while the SWHP was going too slow to expand; Hornady +P 110 grain FTX did better). Fun fact - in 1956, Geoffrey Boothroyd, British Army, maj. ret., wrote a letter to Ian Fleming, pointing out that a .25 acp Beretta 418 was a poor choice for a secret agent, like James Bond, and suggested 007 should carry a revolver - ideally a S&W Centennial Airweight (later designated "model 42"). The Centennial (so-named because 1952 coincided with S&W's 100-year anniversary) was advocated for by none other, than Rex Applegate, who was very much in favor of a hammerless j-frame chambered in .38 special as a personal defensive handgun. Ultimately, Fleming didn't listen to Boothroyd completely, instead giving Bond a Walther PPK, but in the book "Doctor No", 007 is issued with both weapons - a PPK, and a S&W Centennial Airweight, for "long range work" (which makes no sense, as Boothroyd advocated for a j-frame to carry, and a .357 to keep in the car "for long range work" - instead Fleming took Boothroyd's first suggestion and relegated that to long range work, while keeping a semi-automatic as the primary)
Lcr 357 mag. 17.5 ounce. Hogue tamer grips. Use hornady critical defense 110gr 38spl +P. P.O.I. equals P.O.A. You can shoot that combo all day at the range! Very, very little felt recoil. Try that combo and you may find yourself wanting to switch from the S&W to the LCR .357 mag.😊 I watch all your videos, and I greatly appreciate the time and work you put into making these very informative, interesting, and entertaining videos. Thank you!😊
I have a LCR. Love it, carry it often. I didn't like the original grip, so I replaced it with a Roger's shooting school enhanced grip. Its much improved now! Toned down the recoil.
I hated my LCR 38...way too snappy and after a few times, stopped using.. then I added some Hogue 78030 Ruger LCR Rubber Tamer Grip No Finger Grooves - and omgoodness.... it;s soooo much fun now!!!
@@garymiller1875 I actually traded in my .38 Spl LCRx for the .357 Mag DAO LCR... DAO, but the .38 Spl version I found to be too light for my liking. The few extra ounces of weight helps; I was all over the place (floating around too much) with the .38 Spl only model.
Had both as you do now. Try a Tamer grip by Hogue for the LCR and you will seel the same difference as the Hogue for the S&W. Got to say you are really not comparing apples to apples without having the same extended grip. Keep on posting. You do a very nice job. Thanks for being a sensible contributor to UA-cam..
Another excellent test and video ! I agree with you, having shot both, that I prefer the S&W 642 over the Ruger. I like the larger grip you put on the 642.
I too have changed to the Houge grip on my 642 and have to say it is one modification that can be made on the cheap but adds so much to the shoot ability of the gun. I originally purchased the 642 as a BUG for ankle carry but since I purchased I had heart surgery that absolutely takes away your ability to rack a slide so I started carrying the 38 due to its light weight and no slide to rack so the larger grip helps with belt holster carry (better purchase when drawing).
I have the 642 with CT Laser Grip. Love it. Nice thing about a hammerless snubbie is you can fire it out of your jacket pocket if you get into a tussle.
I’ve always preferred the Smith. The one time I shot the Ruger I found the trigger had a false reset that could be trained around but I’m used to the S&W. My EDC in retirement is either the 340PD or 442 Pro. Good video MixUp.
Same reason I sold my 3rd gen S&W semi autos. I like the half cocked, no saftey triggers alot. After adding other pistols to the mix though, I found that "false reset" click to be annoying at least and possibly a liability at worst.
I added the Pachmeyer Diamond Pro grip to my LCR and it significantly improved my shooting. Allows you to get full grip similar to the aftermarket grip you added to your Smith. Excellent Video!
I carried a polymer framed pistol as a duty firearm. I was personally satisfied with its performance, but one thing happened that thrned me off of "plastic" firearms. One of our officers on the southern boarder was patroling on an ATC. On one particular steep hill side he lost balance and fell. Fortunately he was not hurt but he fell hard on his sevice issued handgun, breaking the grip cleanly rendering the firearm unserviceable. That's why today I carry a steel full frame handgun as a DCC. Nuff said...
I've examples of both, neither is a joy to shoot much...Of course, I ain't as young as I used to be. It's much heavier, but prefer SP101; wish they'd increase capacity to six in .357 tho. Still, it's a tank and handles .38 recoil very well. Great comparison Mixup.
Interestingly, the first rounds of shots by both father and son appeared to have less visible recoil with the Ruger. The most important lesson from this video is that one just has to rent or borrow a certain model to see how it feels in one’s own hands.
Hi Mixup & Son: Great review + shooting the S&W 642 and Ruger LCR. BUT you forgot the rattler's pics your kid took. He's an AMAZING Pro Photographer!!.🏆
My buddy has a lcr in 357 but his grip is a little longer with no finger grooves and it's recoil isn't bad . I have a model 60 no dash and a 38-2 and 638 . The 38-2 has the original wood stocks and the 638 has some almount grips , been shooting them for a couple years now.
I carry a 38 special snubby .. Taurus model 85. My wife bought hers first, a Charter Arms "Pathfinder" snub-nosed 22 magnum (after seeing one on this channel. Then I bought a 9mm Taurus which my wife claimed as hers...so now I sometimes carry 2 snubbies.
I do believe that snake has claimed that truck as his own! Good comparison video guys, I own them both as well (my Smith is the 442) and I would agree with your assessments. I do like the LCR but the Smith comes out ahead.
S&W also makes a J frame 7shot Airlite 22 Magnum, the 351C. Even lighter than the 642 Airweight. Almost twice as much, but holster compatible. You can choose which to carry, on a specific day, or carry both, as a New York reload is much quicker.
My daughter carries a 642 with the Crimson Trace grips. Great revolver with a lot less recoil than my Taurus Poly which is a good choice with milder ammo not +P. Stay safe guys. 🙏👍🎯
I have the LCR 9mm and I love it!!! Ive had crimp jump a few times with Blazer Brass FMJ, but it doesnt appear to be a problem with any quality JHP loads Also. With the factory sights, for some reason you need to aim VERY low
I have the LCR 357 and 2 S&W j frame 357's. I really like the versatility of 357 even though I mostly carry and practice with 38 +p. Still, loads of fun on the range, thanks for the new video.
I switched back-and-forth between my LCR's standard shorty grip and the longer, finger groove-less Hogue "Tamer" grip, and kept the Tamer: 'Less concealable, of course, but much better control and less felt-recoil.
I own both in several calibers. All the Ruger LCR's sights are set up that way. If you are used to the sight alignment, it's not an issue. I do agree with you and the felt recoil and sight acquisition. Ruger is more snappy because of weight and grip angle. SW sights are hard to find in direct sunlight, and you can replace the front sights on the Ruger, which I recommend. It's like a red dot ball on top of the trouff aim. Great video gentlemen.
The LCR is a nice revolver. I’ve had mine for years. I would have gotten the .357 Mag version but they didn’t make it in that caliber until a few years after I got the .38 Spcl. I did swap out the front sight for something easier to see.
Good video and analysis. I own the S&W 442, and will probably change out my stock grip to something like yours on the 642. My stock grip does beat up my hand pretty well with the 38 Spl. Thanks for the info.
I found my Ruger LCR at a pawn shop for a price I couldn’t pass up! It’s very snappy though, I might need to change out the small grips for the hogue full size ones.
I never buy used firearms. My fear is that overloaded rounds could have been fired in them but not obvious but the stress could be waiting for the next discharge. The price difference isn’t worth the risk to me.
Here's the thing with the 642, 638, 637, the LCR's and the like being used sale guns I've seen "most" times. Not all times, "most" times. Roughly 90% of them were taken out once by an unsuspecting newb that had it foisted on them by the sales counter guy, fired a box of ammo through it and couldn't hit anything with it at 10 feet and despised and loathed the flash and pop associated with pulling the trigger, and then promptly returned it after the session was over 0:05 for a huge loss and traded it for something else. If you spend enough time at a range, you'll see this phenomena frequently enough. Inspector Clouseau could establish that easily enough by just looking at the overall condition of the gun@@woodybowen5362
Mixup, I could be wrong, but I think that rattler is a Mojave Green. The Mojave Green is supposed to have the most powerful venom of all the North American pit vipers. Be careful out there, enjoy all your videos.
@@garysmith3913 Uou are correct the Mojave Green rattlers in that region have both neurotoxins and hematoxins. In Crntral AZ some are only hematixin and classified A and B types
I carry the S&W 642 preferentially; it's just so easy to slip into a pocket holster in winter here in New England and it's then as available in an emergency as it is invisible. Till now, I've used the factory installed grips but the Rogue suggested in the video looks like a better choice. Thanks for the tip.
Ive had both pistols. I like them both. The Ruger was the 357 snubby enclosed hammer , and it shot better. The Smith and Wesson concealed better in my pocket, and was easier to quickly get out of my pocket, and the Smiths handle wasnt as big and was a harder rubber, less tacky than the Ruger. I like them both. I tend to wear the Ruger on an outside the waistband holster, and the Smith I like for pocket carry better. I recommend both. Matteres how you plan on carrying. Also my Smith shot 6" low at 10 yards. I didnt try different bullet weights, but it was accurate enough as long as you shot it enough to know where it shoots. I plan on replacing the Smith and I still have the Ruger. I like both.
I own both. The 442 and the .357 lcr... i agree the smith is better. Once you put the larger grips on them they reduce concealability obviously. I liked the hogue grips but like pachmyers even better. Have an altamont gripin wood that is very concealable but can get all 3 fingers on it. I put xs big dots on the lcr and a laser grip its pretty accurate. But the trigger on the smith is so smooth after a couple of thousand rounds i just love it. Thanks for the video. Loved the snake.lol
I have a S&W 649 and it is all stainless for more weight and money, but it's hard too beat a 357 magnum in a snubby. I also havr the Ruger LCR in 38+P and in 22 Magnum. I have Hogue Tamer grips on the +p Ruger and they make for easy handeling.. Great video.
At Shot Show one year, I had a revolver factory rep tell me that Colt put the hump on the 1911 mainspring housing because most shooters tended to push down when shooting to compensate for recoil rise, and would hit low. So they tried to help hit more accurately by adding the hump. Most experienced shooters prefer a flat housing to have better shot placement. *Maybe the same idea is used here with small revolvers. Sight them in to shoot high to compensate depressing during the shot? (We call it flinching)
It’s great to see a father and son having a day in the sun shootin.
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Is the son using the light weight version of the smith and wesson
@@unklecorky2181 My son was shooting the lightweight S&W and also the Ruger.
Great comparison! I find myself liking my .38 special more and more.
I would not be ashamed to carry either revolver. However, I would feel much better armed with a Colt's Detective Special (late 60s to early 70s edition) or even better a "snubby" S&W Model 19. I'm so old I just trust steel more than I do aluminum and/or polymer in my self-defense handguns. Yeah, I know, it's the 21st century get over myself. I just turned 70 so that ship has sailed. As usual I really enjoyed your video! Keep 'em comin'!!!
I believe the .357 version of the LCR (as well as the LCRX) is made out of all steel if that was important to you.
Switching out the grips makes a world of difference on a snubby. Great video!
When I was a young guy, I would have never dreamed that a Ruger would cost more than a comparable Smith & Wesson. Back then, Smiths were always more highly finished and used forgings instead of castings where it counts. But that was before the "plastic revolution."
@PeterAngles-jq7gr Yeah, Ruger revolvers used to be good value....lots of brands have increased in price in the last few years, but Ruger revolvers seem to have more than the average.
@@BB-gr9hq S&W had no idea how expensive the "Hillary Hole" was going to be in the long run. It totally revived Ruger's double action revolver line. People started buying Rugers, and then S&W had some quality control issues like the two piece barrels that weren't centered, Ruger became many revolver fans first choice. The Hillary Hole is what opened the door because the aesthetic beauty of S&W revolvers had been half of their appeal and the stupid, ugly, HH ruined that.
@johnelder4273 careful now. Too much of that and you might want to go check your brake lines😂
Even though Ruger uses castings,it top quality....Bill Ruger wanted the strongest revolver...i believe he accomplished that with no side plates and investment castings.
Great comparison. And fantastic shooting as always.
LCR owner for 10 years in .38. Wouldn’t be able to get this gun away from me for anything. Thousands of rounds through it and carry it about 90% of the time over other carry guns I own. The anodizing is wearing off in a few spots. Favorite gun? Yes. Not even a question.
Nice comment to see. I have a family of gun owners and this is the gun I want to buy for myself. Looking for a 38 special revolver with light recoil that would be good to learn with.
BTW I was going to start with an LCRX as my first gun just for the fun as I always loved traditional revolver style. You think that's a bad move?
No way@@unklecorky2181
Great comparison of two great revolvers. Thank u gentlemen!
I have the LCR .357 mag. Nice revolver. I stick with .38 Spl rounds for practice and .357 mag for a defensive load. It lets you know what you're using. You can use glow in the dark/florescent nail polish on the front sight to have your eyes pick up the front sight quicker.
The 642 was my first handgun. Bought it in 2007 when I qualified for my CCDW permit. Kept the boot grip on it. Since it was my first, I'll never get rid of it. It's a very convenient handgun. I don't shoot +P ammo in it. Thanks for the video, enjoyed it! 🤠
Check out the model 30 they are superb!
@@painmt651 I do have a 31-1 in 32 S&W Long & a 33-1 in 38 S&W. All blued. No 30 though.
I carry my steel frame 640 S&W more and more now that my arthritis is getting worse. I'm looking for a load I can tolerate in my beloved 642. I'm going to try 148 grain wadcutters and maybe 125 grain .38 Specials (non +p). If that doesn't work I'm going to try .38 long Colt. I think with a non-expanding bullet it should penetrate sufficiently but I will have to test it.
@@gwidwockBuffalo Bore makes some stout lead hollow points. Not +p. Not very pleasant to shoot, which isn't the point of them. A bit pricey, but man do they look like they would tear it up.
@@johnelder4273 Berry's 148 gr DEWC with 2.9 gr TiteGroup should be nice for a J frame. Expanding projectiles need a lot of velocity and that means hotter loads as you are well aware. I have a 640-1 and shooting 357 magnums is murder on the hand. I only did that once. I like the all steel frame. Those Berry's should feel OK in the all steel frame.
Really like that smith, the 442 was my backup. You guys are a lot of fun and good info, thanks
9:03 that has to be one of the longest and coolest ricochet sounds I’ve ever heard from a handgun.
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I prefer the 642 to most other brand revolvers. Mine is an early model prior to being stamped +P. Smooth as silk too. Thanks for another great video. 👍👍
get in here quick, its another mixup98 and son video!
I have an lcr and an lcrx in 22lr and 22wmr. Great guns. I carry them when I hike, fish, walk the dog. Great kit guns
I have both, I don't think you can go wrong with either. I find myself carrying the Ruger more often, but I spend more time looking at the Smith.
I like them both but the ruger in my opinion has a great trigger
I agree, I have the LCRX with the hammer and love it. It does have the longer barrel. So I went with the 642 like Mixup has. Being DAO, I purchased the Performance Center model and it too has a great trigger. Can't go wrong with either in my opinion.
I tend to agree, except I put the Apex spring kit in my 642 and now it’s like butter. Smoothest double action besides my S&W 629 .44
Great to see you out and about MixUp! ❤
The snake really blends in well with the surrounding gravel. Glad nobody got bit.
642 was my choice too, 6 months in I'm still glad
I’ve had my LCR for several years now and I really like it. I bought the 357 magnum version, because I wanted the steel frame, but I carry 38+p in it. I did put an aftermarket grip on it and it feels better.
Hogue has G10 grips, rubber grips. Guy Hogue was a LAPD cop. I've used Hogue grips for years. Excellent design.
The wife and I got the LCRx in 357 a couple years ago. I love that little snubby. One of the best out of the box triggers for the money.
I've owned/carried my LCR for years, installed some aftermarket grips, very happy with it. My wife is interested in adopting it because of the weight, size and ease of use.
Got the same grips on my 642. Makes a world of difference.
Love your videos! Always entertaining and very informative. Very impressed by how accurate you both are with those little snubbies!
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Another Mixup & Son vid!
I have the 642 and put orange nail polish on the front sight for better front sight pick up. It really helps. It my main warm weather carry gun.
Taped up my sp101 and spray painted the "trough" with flat black spray paint. I then put a hi-viz front sight on it and used the white rod. That provided contrast for my ancient eyes...
I have the S&W 442 and really enjoy that revolver. I kept the original grips on mine and if I put the revolver in my front pocket, it doesn’t really even print.
I have an old schol, 1968 S&W model 42 (the old, grip safety version) as my EDC. Gotta love those airweight j-frames, especially with wadcutters. Paul Harrell did a video on it, and it turned out the humble 148 grain wadcutter, chugging along at 660 fps, did as much damage to the meat target, as a +P, 158 grain SWHP going 780 fps - all thanks to the wadcutter bullet (while the SWHP was going too slow to expand; Hornady +P 110 grain FTX did better).
Fun fact - in 1956, Geoffrey Boothroyd, British Army, maj. ret., wrote a letter to Ian Fleming, pointing out that a .25 acp Beretta 418 was a poor choice for a secret agent, like James Bond, and suggested 007 should carry a revolver - ideally a S&W Centennial Airweight (later designated "model 42").
The Centennial (so-named because 1952 coincided with S&W's 100-year anniversary) was advocated for by none other, than Rex Applegate, who was very much in favor of a hammerless j-frame chambered in .38 special as a personal defensive handgun. Ultimately, Fleming didn't listen to Boothroyd completely, instead giving Bond a Walther PPK, but in the book "Doctor No", 007 is issued with both weapons - a PPK, and a S&W Centennial Airweight, for "long range work" (which makes no sense, as Boothroyd advocated for a j-frame to carry, and a .357 to keep in the car "for long range work" - instead Fleming took Boothroyd's first suggestion and relegated that to long range work, while keeping a semi-automatic as the primary)
Lcr 357 mag. 17.5 ounce. Hogue tamer grips. Use hornady critical defense 110gr 38spl +P. P.O.I. equals P.O.A. You can shoot that combo all day at the range! Very, very little felt recoil. Try that combo and you may find yourself wanting to switch from the S&W to the LCR .357 mag.😊 I watch all your videos, and I greatly appreciate the time and work you put into making these very informative, interesting, and entertaining videos. Thank you!😊
I have a LCR. Love it, carry it often. I didn't like the original grip, so I replaced it with a Roger's shooting school enhanced grip. Its much improved now! Toned down the recoil.
I hated my LCR 38...way too snappy and after a few times, stopped using..
then I added some Hogue 78030 Ruger LCR Rubber Tamer Grip No Finger Grooves - and omgoodness.... it;s soooo much fun now!!!
Thanks for the advice....much appreciated!
Yes; I found the .357 LCR with .357 loads shot more comfortably than the .38.
That small extra weight counts.
@@garymiller1875 I actually traded in my .38 Spl LCRx for the .357 Mag DAO LCR... DAO, but the .38 Spl version I found to be too light for my liking. The few extra ounces of weight helps; I was all over the place (floating around too much) with the .38 Spl only model.
@@carlosmorris4510 Good move!
First off it’s great seeing you both again. My vote goes to the SW
I owned both these revolvers at one point as well, but always fired the LCR so much better. That grip really helps
Had both as you do now. Try a Tamer grip by Hogue for the LCR and you will seel the same difference as the Hogue for the S&W. Got to say you are really not comparing apples to apples without having the same extended grip. Keep on posting. You do a very nice job. Thanks for being a sensible contributor to UA-cam..
I was thinking the difference in grips would favor the 642, & familiarity could be a factor. But I also think the Ruger feels odd, not sure why.
Another excellent test and video ! I agree with you, having shot both, that I prefer the S&W 642 over the Ruger. I like the larger grip you put on the 642.
I too have changed to the Houge grip on my 642 and have to say it is one modification that can be made on the cheap but adds so much to the shoot ability of the gun. I originally purchased the 642 as a BUG for ankle carry but since I purchased I had heart surgery that absolutely takes away your ability to rack a slide so I started carrying the 38 due to its light weight and no slide to rack so the larger grip helps with belt holster carry (better purchase when drawing).
I have the 642 with CT Laser Grip. Love it. Nice thing about a hammerless snubbie is you can fire it out of your jacket pocket if you get into a tussle.
You lost your truck LOL. Great video.
Great video. You both shot very good. Those are not the easiest things to shoot. Thanks for sharing.
You are very welcome and thank you for watching our video.
This was very informative! You guys are a great team! This is definitely the best gun channel on UA-cam!
Nice video! I would have guessed the Ruger would win.
Both appear to be great guns.
Great review gentlemen! Makes me go for another purchase..Smith Wesson for me!
I kind of miss the Star Trek Beam in intro.
he does bring it out every now and then
I’ve always preferred the Smith. The one time I shot the Ruger I found the trigger had a false reset that could be trained around but I’m used to the S&W. My EDC in retirement is either the 340PD or 442 Pro. Good video MixUp.
Same reason I sold my 3rd gen S&W semi autos.
I like the half cocked, no saftey triggers alot. After adding other pistols to the mix though, I found that "false reset" click to be annoying at least and possibly a liability at worst.
I added the Pachmeyer Diamond Pro grip to my LCR and it significantly improved my shooting. Allows you to get full grip similar to the aftermarket grip you added to your Smith. Excellent Video!
I will take a look at the Diamond Pro grip for my LCR....thanks for the heads-up!
I carried a polymer framed pistol as a duty firearm. I was personally satisfied with its performance, but one thing happened that thrned me off of "plastic" firearms. One of our officers on the southern boarder was patroling on an ATC. On one particular steep hill side he lost balance and fell. Fortunately he was not hurt but he fell hard on his sevice issued handgun, breaking the grip cleanly rendering the firearm unserviceable. That's why today I carry a steel full frame handgun as a DCC. Nuff said...
I've examples of both, neither is a joy to shoot much...Of course, I ain't as young as I used to be. It's much heavier, but prefer SP101; wish they'd increase capacity to six in .357 tho.
Still, it's a tank and handles .38 recoil very well. Great comparison Mixup.
Interestingly, the first rounds of shots by both father and son appeared to have less visible recoil with the Ruger. The most important lesson from this video is that one just has to rent or borrow a certain model to see how it feels in one’s own hands.
They're both great little revolvers, but I like the .357 Mag LCR the most - because it's got a little more weight to it (at 17.1 ounces).
More weight equals less felt recoil. I use hornady critical defense 110 gr 38spl +P in my 357 lcr. P.O.I. Equals P.O.A.
Hi Mixup & Son: Great review + shooting the S&W 642 and Ruger LCR.
BUT you forgot the rattler's pics your kid took.
He's an AMAZING Pro Photographer!!.🏆
I would get a Rock Island Armory 38 because of my budget. It has the mixup98 seal of approval and I the Hickok45 seal of approval.
I have the LCR in .357 mag. I have debated selling it, but I think I'll keep it.
I have an LCR. I put a Hogue laminated hard grip on it. Easy to carry but I can't hit much with it outside of about 12 feet 😆
My buddy has a lcr in 357 but his grip is a little longer with no finger grooves and it's recoil isn't bad . I have a model 60 no dash and a 38-2 and 638 . The 38-2 has the original wood stocks and the 638 has some almount grips , been shooting them for a couple years now.
I carry a 38 special snubby .. Taurus model 85.
My wife bought hers first, a Charter Arms "Pathfinder" snub-nosed 22 magnum (after seeing one on this channel.
Then I bought a 9mm Taurus which my wife claimed as hers...so now I sometimes carry 2 snubbies.
Double the fun
That both of you seemed to want to compete with the 642 says something. Enjoyed the video.
You guys have the best vids on utube. Love my j frames. Thanks again.
Wow, thanks!
I do believe that snake has claimed that truck as his own! Good comparison video guys, I own them both as well (my Smith is the 442) and I would agree with your assessments. I do like the LCR but the Smith comes out ahead.
They are both great. Ruger also chambers an LCR in .22 mag.
S&W also makes a J frame 7shot Airlite 22 Magnum, the 351C. Even lighter than the 642 Airweight. Almost twice as much, but holster compatible. You can choose which to carry, on a specific day, or carry both, as a New York reload is much quicker.
I carried a S&W 642 for years. Had to relinquish it when I left employment. Might have to correct that.😊
My daughter carries a 642 with the Crimson Trace grips. Great revolver with a lot less recoil than my Taurus Poly which is a good choice with milder ammo not +P. Stay safe guys. 🙏👍🎯
I have the LCR 9mm and I love it!!! Ive had crimp jump a few times with Blazer Brass FMJ, but it doesnt appear to be a problem with any quality JHP loads
Also. With the factory sights, for some reason you need to aim VERY low
I've had a SW 442 Airweight for ten years. Love that thing; could not believe its accuracy at first.
I have the LCR 357 and 2 S&W j frame 357's. I really like the versatility of 357 even though I mostly carry and practice with 38 +p. Still, loads of fun on the range, thanks for the new video.
I switched back-and-forth between my LCR's standard shorty grip and the longer, finger groove-less Hogue "Tamer" grip, and kept the Tamer: 'Less concealable, of course, but much better control and less felt-recoil.
I have the lcr x I forget it’s on me sometimes due to how light, great carry option. Thanks for the video.
I painted the sights on my 642 it helps
I own both in several calibers. All the Ruger LCR's sights are set up that way. If you are used to the sight alignment, it's not an issue. I do agree with you and the felt recoil and sight acquisition. Ruger is more snappy because of weight and grip angle. SW sights are hard to find in direct sunlight, and you can replace the front sights on the Ruger, which I recommend. It's like a red dot ball on top of the trouff aim. Great video gentlemen.
Great video guys! Love my Smith 442 without the stupid lock
Awesome video as usual man!
The LCR is a nice revolver. I’ve had mine for years. I would have gotten the .357 Mag version but they didn’t make it in that caliber until a few years after I got the .38 Spcl. I did swap out the front sight for something easier to see.
These are nice too! My two .38’s are a S&W Bodyguard (+P) version and a Colt Detective Special. I carry one of these everyday.
Great video. Thanks for sharing 🇺🇸
Did the new grip on the j-frame still allow for pocket carry? Thank you.
Looks like that rattle snake has claimed the truck as its home.
Great video nice Smith and Wesson and ruger 38 seems like Smith and Wesson is the winner 😅 thanks for sharing mixup98 and son
Good video and analysis. I own the S&W 442, and will probably change out my stock grip to something like yours on the 642. My stock grip does beat up my hand pretty well with the 38 Spl. Thanks for the info.
I found my Ruger LCR at a pawn shop for a price I couldn’t pass up! It’s very snappy though, I might need to change out the small grips for the hogue full size ones.
Good seeing you. I have a Taurus 38 that looks similar.
Good morning Robert. It is always good hearing from you. 👍😎
Hogue makes a bigger grip for the LCR. The one that comes on the 3" models. Makes it a much smoother shooter. I run those with the Hi Viz sights.
Love these guys!
Nice video.
Always good to have more than one
opinion whether agree or disagree.
You can usually find both of those revolvers in pawnshops for a good price.
I see them from $329 to $379 barely used on the Smith's and a scant higher used on the LCR's.
I never buy used firearms. My fear is that overloaded rounds could have been fired in them but not obvious but the stress could be waiting for the next discharge. The price difference isn’t worth the risk to me.
@@woodybowen5362 You could’ve bought factory ammo that was overloaded in your own gun’s.
Here's the thing with the 642, 638, 637, the LCR's and the like being used sale guns I've seen "most" times. Not all times, "most" times. Roughly 90% of them were taken out once by an unsuspecting newb that had it foisted on them by the sales counter guy, fired a box of ammo through it and couldn't hit anything with it at 10 feet and despised and loathed the flash and pop associated with pulling the trigger, and then promptly returned it after the session was over 0:05 for a huge loss and traded it for something else. If you spend enough time at a range, you'll see this phenomena frequently enough. Inspector Clouseau could establish that easily enough by just looking at the overall condition of the gun@@woodybowen5362
Like your channel alot I hope UA-cam makes it a little easier on the gun channels
Great video comparing these two. I wonder how the Ruger might have done with better grips, but the Smith was the clear winner.
Mixup, I could be wrong, but I think that rattler is a Mojave Green. The Mojave Green is supposed to have the most powerful venom of all the North American pit vipers. Be careful out there, enjoy all your videos.
@@garysmith3913 Uou are correct the Mojave Green rattlers in that region have both neurotoxins and hematoxins. In Crntral AZ some are only hematixin and classified A and B types
I carry the S&W 642 preferentially; it's just so easy to slip into a pocket holster in winter here in New England and it's then as available in an emergency as it is invisible. Till now, I've used the factory installed grips but the Rogue suggested in the video looks like a better choice. Thanks for the tip.
You are very welcome Jack and thank you for watching my video.
@mixup98 You should try some of the new(er) Rossi revolvers.
Is there a difference between the 642 and 442 revolver? In your opinion is having a six revolver better than a five?
No difference it's just the finish. If you want capacity, I like the Smith model 43c. 8 shot 22lr. They also make The 351c, 7 shot 22 magnum.
@SK-2ill ok I appreciate the help
Excellent Comparison Video.
I agree. S&W 642!
That snake will make A REALLY NICE HATBAND!!
I have two .642s but I like the ruger too
Ive had both pistols. I like them both.
The Ruger was the 357 snubby enclosed hammer , and it shot better.
The Smith and Wesson concealed better in my pocket, and was easier to quickly get out of my pocket, and the Smiths handle wasnt as big and was a harder rubber, less tacky than the Ruger.
I like them both.
I tend to wear the Ruger on an outside the waistband holster, and the Smith I like for pocket carry better.
I recommend both. Matteres how you plan on carrying.
Also my Smith shot 6" low at 10 yards. I didnt try different bullet weights, but it was accurate enough as long as you shot it enough to know where it shoots.
I plan on replacing the Smith and I still have the Ruger.
I like both.
I own both. The 442 and the .357 lcr... i agree the smith is better. Once you put the larger grips on them they reduce concealability obviously. I liked the hogue grips but like pachmyers even better. Have an altamont gripin wood that is very concealable but can get all 3 fingers on it. I put xs big dots on the lcr and a laser grip its pretty accurate. But the trigger on the smith is so smooth after a couple of thousand rounds i just love it. Thanks for the video. Loved the snake.lol
I have a S&W 649 and it is all stainless for more weight and money, but it's hard too beat a 357 magnum in a snubby. I also havr the Ruger LCR in 38+P and in 22 Magnum. I have Hogue Tamer grips on the +p Ruger and they make for easy handeling..
Great video.
I’ve got a lotta love for revolvers and there are a few 38 spl +P rounds that are pretty nasty rounds for sure.
At Shot Show one year, I had a revolver factory rep tell me that Colt put the hump on the 1911 mainspring housing because most shooters tended to push down when shooting to compensate for recoil rise, and would hit low. So they tried to help hit more accurately by adding the hump. Most experienced shooters prefer a flat housing to have better shot placement.
*Maybe the same idea is used here with small revolvers. Sight them in to shoot high to compensate depressing during the shot? (We call it flinching)