The flamethrower is slept on youre just basing it off of stats 10 resson why its goated : 1. it clears gas 2. It doesan extra 40 dmg in fire dmg 3. It leaves a fire effect on enemies screen 4. Its sets plants on fire (useful when deposit is in woods) 5. Clears goo 6. Fure prevents lights fron cloaking 7. Goes through mesh shields 8. You dont need to aim 9. Doesnt have a cocking animation like shotgun 10. In the video hes says doesnt work well with mesh shield not true it works best in burst
Bonus combo it with the charge n slam that does 150 dmg you lower that "4" second ttk down to 1-2 as well as closing any distance you may have been lacking
It’s also makes the heavy like a secondary primary class if that makes any sense. And even then, the lewis and m60 is obviously better for range and pressure while the shotgun is still straight up better for dmg. Another example is that if you got like 2 mediums with healing beams, using flamethrower as a heavy is not ideal as it’s much harder for you to either stay at a safe distance and not risk getting yourself or your team killed (which is why lmgs are useful) but also because the flamethrower doesn’t have high dmg like the shotgun, you’ll die more easily and risk getting you and your team killed.
Most "insane" sword (melee in general) players are using bugs to their advantage. That isn't healthy for the game. Melee should have never been a weapon class, or it should have been ultra specific to each class. Like stowing your weapon to pull out your melee weapon, each class gets a unique melee weapon to carry with them.
@@elimgarak1127 what bugs are they using? Sword just using attack cancel which can be used by any other class. Same fro riot, which basically don't even have any bugs
That M11 was doing work for me after the update and tearing through heavies. I actually started using Light for the first time yesterday and had no money to purchase anything and used the M11. I only started playing the game on Monday, but I was consistently getting 20+ pieces with Light + M11. I will try it with the MP5 once I get the cloak and equipment for light.
How can you put the heavy shotgun in S and immediately say that it only works effeciently in a specific comp? Doesnt sound like an S tier weapon. You need to evaluate what these tiers mean not only for yourself but for the game itself
Flamethrower have very important role, more important than kills: it makes toxic gas dissapear. Toxic gas is most OP thing in finals and flamethrowers counters it in a sec. Deserves A or B+. Revolver need damage buff and speed nerf but they wont because they dont want revolver 2 shots lights. C tier. Riot shield needs movement speed and attack speed buff. D-. CL-40 need just one more bullet and just a little faster reload time. then maybe it goes higher tier. Sh1900 need damage-range nerf. then it deserves that tier. Throwing knifes needs right click buff, faster cast time or ability to hold in your hand or maybe throwing 3 knifes. then it goes tier A. Dagger needs a special attack with reload button to escape D tier. Sniper C tier . M11 A tier LH1 D tier for sure but needs to be moved to Medium class. IMO
If revolver didn’t have bloom it would definitely be S tier Considering it two taps mediums and three taps heavy thing would probably need a nerf but the bloom just makes it terrible or I could just be missing by a mf milipixle
I feel like it comes down to slowing down your shots, because the bloom mostly happens when you shoot fast. But then it reduces the overall DPS so it does make it worse but it's at least fun to play
Melee weapons hopefully never become meta. It's an FPS game. Also, game is over before it starts most of the time when a teammate picks sniper. I'd rather have a dashing sword light on the team
Yea exactly, they spend all their time finding cool sniper spots to maybe get one kill on a team before they defib their guy back and run to the objective therefore accomplishing nothing
Diamond lobbies with the flamethrower you are sleeping on it. Easy kills on multiple people. Medium defib is useless because you burn them both instantly. Also with the gas being meta it’s an automatic counter to gas mines and gas grenades. I’ll easily drop 40 kill tournaments with a flamethrower I also use barricades and burn straight over the barricades while dancing around them super simple and powerful. You just gotta know how to play it
Fr man this guy just showing the flamethrower on some practice dummies and acts like it’s dogshit. I play platinum ranked on ps5 w my friends who are on pc and I’m constantly shitting on these pc kids even tho my aim is typically terrible w any of the automatic weapons in the game
I’ll have to disagree with you on the flame thrower to. It’s awkward at first trying to learn. But after extensive play with it. There’s no other weapon I want to use especially close range. Pair it with fire grenades, fire mines, and frags/gas grenades (gas situational) and you got a very nasty hold and flame class. Rocket for breaching. And charge and slam for control /breaching. Let it cook. It’s much more OP than it seems.
I believe a good way to make the sniper more relivant in the game is to focus on the weapons utility. Snipers are always a challenge for devs because buffing them leads to op damage but right now they struggle against anything but lights. I would suggest that they change the sniper and utilize a few of these ideas. 1. Make the sniper shoot laser rounds that go through energy based barriers without damage reduction. 2. While on topic with energy rounds allow them to act as an emp to electronics like the guardian turrent and aps turrent. 3. Give the gun the ability to 3 shot cables on platforms to break them so the platform comes down. 4. Than Also give it the ability to shoot through walls but no more than 1 or else hackers will reek havic with that. It would make sonar grenades, motion sensor, and the tracking darts played a lot more often and dependacy on medium players to help by using sonar. Some of these Ideas above can be future gadgets instead that buff that weapon specifically (Energy bullets, Full Metal Jacket bullets) that way you don't buff the characters weapon purely. It removes the already useless at range gadgets for important ones for ranged fighters but also penatlizes the players that want to run in hip firing by giving them less close range gadgets. If you really want to go crazy give them a sonar dart gun similar to the tracking dart but instead it only activates after traveling a certain distance (maybe an dicator before firing to help with that) but keep the pings low to like 2. That way they can snipe from a far but cant stand in the next room. BUT.... Than you need to give Mediums (support) a glitch fog grenade to prevent sonars, tracking darts, recon, and the mentioned sonar dart. Its needed in order to cap without getting sniped through walls because of the dart. The distance your forced to play to utilize the dart also lowers your time to react to someone capping the Cashout so there's counter play to the buffs and risk and reward.
There's bloom on the revolver, that's why it feels unreliable. It's always been like that if i m not mistaken. I don't know why, it's not like it's insane and needs bloom to not be abused. I wish they'd get rid of that
I completely agree with revolver choice, my favorite weapon by far but I always seem to miss somehow when my sight is right over them. Which could possible be fixed with giving customizable sights or what not on your weapons. Like a revolver with a red dot would be super nice to have. But again I do feel something is fundamentally wrong with revolver in the regard where somehow you end up missing shots when you really think it should’ve hit
no way revolver b. there 3 weapons for med that allow u to continiously deal dmg without exposing yourself which are shotgun, cl and revolver. if you understand angles and positions you play, have a good crosshair placement when you peek and abuse that peeker advantage hard- revolver is the beast. i clutched a lot of situations with low hp when i was jigglin cover. and your team are really dependant on having their medium alive as long as possible. i agree that it's harder weapon to master since you have play properly and aim for headshots, but it's not making weapon worse. visual recoil is an big issue tho, you have to take your time between shots when you peek mid+ range target. but still a or a+ weapon tho.
I would not put shield into the D. It's more like at C or even at B. On some maps it's actually a dicent weapon if you know how to block bullets with your left side. I would swap knifes and shield with places, since throwing knifes are garbage
i think it's not about "being a bad weapon" It's more about losing options. Yes? shield can be annoying and yes you can hit and block with left side but what will you do if someone initiates from far away
@@fshustrov That's why I said that it's usable only on some maps. I would not pick shield on Vegas an Seoul since they are really open maps. But at Monaco and Skyway it's actually good.
Cl40 main and I have so much fun with mines and one shotting lights with a mine so fun, feels really hard in 1v1 and against heavy’s but good utility for holding the cash out
@@LizardHunter777 just say you don’t know how to use the mesh or dome shield. Because when you actually use your abilities it’s op asf especially considering you can easily burn all gas and goo
Flamethrower is free kills for console players. I run ranked tournaments on ps5 in pc lobbies w my friends and I ROUTINELY outscore them just because of how op the fucking flamethrower is
Sniper can be very good in the right hands. Obviously the xp-54 ect will be better but i have solo defended a cashout in ranked with a sniper, crane and glitch nades
@@fshustrov Maybe me calling it possible meta is strong, though how they used it was very effective. If you shot at them from a distance he would put up a mesh shield, and get healed by a healer. Then cant do much else when they come for the cash box. It was cringe
@@GLoveJF yes bruh people don’t understand when your team works around you and ur flamethrower you dick on pretty much everybody. Add in the fact that you can just tap the trigger on a trap filled cashout and it all goes away. This guy needs to learn how to use the flamethrower so he stops disrespecting it like this
This patch was aids adding bloom to everything, not even mildly interested until it's patched. Beyond that, the game has dozens of issues and I just can't take it seriously anymore. It's been taken over by loser 1 viewer cheaters on Twitch and 3 stack cheese metas against every asshole who dares to solo queue. There is zero chance they can fix the core problems in time. It's Joever.
They will be fine because most people are having fun regardless of what issues they have. It's the most hype shooter on the market, it's not over it's just started. Nice cope though.
The flamethrower is slept on youre just basing it off of stats 10 resson why its goated : 1. it clears gas 2. It doesan extra 40 dmg in fire dmg 3. It leaves a fire effect on enemies screen 4. Its sets plants on fire (useful when deposit is in woods) 5. Clears goo 6. Fure prevents lights fron cloaking 7. Goes through mesh shields 8. You dont need to aim 9. Doesnt have a cocking animation like shotgun 10. In the video hes says doesnt work well with mesh shield not true it works best in burst
Bonus combo it with the charge n slam that does 150 dmg you lower that "4" second ttk down to 1-2 as well as closing any distance you may have been lacking
@@kiwiplaysgames3928Spot on. Easily the most underrated weapon on this list. Especially when you catch them reviving in a group 💀
Nice to see you showing the medium shotty some love, but you are still underestimating the flamethrower.
nah flamethrowers ass
flamethrower is extremely situational. you are helpless at anything beyond melee range
It’s also makes the heavy like a secondary primary class if that makes any sense. And even then, the lewis and m60 is obviously better for range and pressure while the shotgun is still straight up better for dmg. Another example is that if you got like 2 mediums with healing beams, using flamethrower as a heavy is not ideal as it’s much harder for you to either stay at a safe distance and not risk getting yourself or your team killed (which is why lmgs are useful) but also because the flamethrower doesn’t have high dmg like the shotgun, you’ll die more easily and risk getting you and your team killed.
Lights did get a buff with the rpg nerf but not much else
Flamethrower is more of a tool, it really takes using mines in odd ways to make the flamethrower really good.
Spacing out shots and peeking with cover is what makes the revolver good, spamming with it will make you miss because of bloom
Guy needs to see some of the insane people with the sword not the average player would be great with it but if u get it down it can be insane
Most "insane" sword (melee in general) players are using bugs to their advantage. That isn't healthy for the game. Melee should have never been a weapon class, or it should have been ultra specific to each class. Like stowing your weapon to pull out your melee weapon, each class gets a unique melee weapon to carry with them.
@@elimgarak1127 what bugs are they using? Sword just using attack cancel which can be used by any other class. Same fro riot, which basically don't even have any bugs
@@elimgarak1127lmao… yeah seems like you’re just dogshit at every game, good lord your brain sucks.. you definently hate yourself
@@elimgarak1127that’d be cool
Swords have lingering frames so you can completely wiff your lunge and 180 and still get the hit
I agree for the most part, but the flamethrower, knife, and riot shield are easily underrated.
That M11 was doing work for me after the update and tearing through heavies. I actually started using Light for the first time yesterday and had no money to purchase anything and used the M11. I only started playing the game on Monday, but I was consistently getting 20+ pieces with Light + M11. I will try it with the MP5 once I get the cloak and equipment for light.
Do you play ranked?
I would use evasive dash over cloak
Youre going need to make a updated video for the flamethrower
How can you put the heavy shotgun in S and immediately say that it only works effeciently in a specific comp? Doesnt sound like an S tier weapon. You need to evaluate what these tiers mean not only for yourself but for the game itself
What I hate about the Riot Shield is that you can still get shot while the shield directly at an enemy.
That's y u need to jump constantly
Flamethrower have very important role, more important than kills: it makes toxic gas dissapear. Toxic gas is most OP thing in finals and flamethrowers counters it in a sec. Deserves A or B+.
Revolver need damage buff and speed nerf but they wont because they dont want revolver 2 shots lights. C tier.
Riot shield needs movement speed and attack speed buff. D-.
CL-40 need just one more bullet and just a little faster reload time. then maybe it goes higher tier.
Sh1900 need damage-range nerf. then it deserves that tier.
Throwing knifes needs right click buff, faster cast time or ability to hold in your hand or maybe throwing 3 knifes. then it goes tier A.
Dagger needs a special attack with reload button to escape D tier.
Sniper C tier . M11 A tier
LH1 D tier for sure but needs to be moved to Medium class.
IMO
If revolver didn’t have bloom it would definitely be S tier Considering it two taps mediums and three taps heavy thing would probably need a nerf but the bloom just makes it terrible or I could just be missing by a mf milipixle
I feel like it comes down to slowing down your shots, because the bloom mostly happens when you shoot fast. But then it reduces the overall DPS so it does make it worse but it's at least fun to play
The bloom makes it awful. It's an accuracy weapon where you need to be slow and precise, why would they make it inaccurate
Melee weapons hopefully never become meta. It's an FPS game. Also, game is over before it starts most of the time when a teammate picks sniper. I'd rather have a dashing sword light on the team
Yea exactly, they spend all their time finding cool sniper spots to maybe get one kill on a team before they defib their guy back and run to the objective therefore accomplishing nothing
The light pistol is sure S tier after many hours i learned how too use it in mid range then u are op with it
how do you play scrims when there is no custom matchmaking in this game?
Wondering this same thing
Well made video! Your sniper practice range footage is impressive lol and lends credibility to your critiques of it
Light Sword + Dash = S tier for me. Best weapon if you're skilled. Check out Eidorian
Sniper would be cool if you had a heavy that opened sight lines for you but that’s probably too much to expect from teammates.
Diamond lobbies with the flamethrower you are sleeping on it. Easy kills on multiple people. Medium defib is useless because you burn them both instantly. Also with the gas being meta it’s an automatic counter to gas mines and gas grenades. I’ll easily drop 40 kill tournaments with a flamethrower I also use barricades and burn straight over the barricades while dancing around them super simple and powerful. You just gotta know how to play it
Yep, every tierlist is bullshit
Fr man this guy just showing the flamethrower on some practice dummies and acts like it’s dogshit. I play platinum ranked on ps5 w my friends who are on pc and I’m constantly shitting on these pc kids even tho my aim is typically terrible w any of the automatic weapons in the game
I’ll have to disagree with you on the flame thrower to. It’s awkward at first trying to learn. But after extensive play with it. There’s no other weapon I want to use especially close range. Pair it with fire grenades, fire mines, and frags/gas grenades (gas situational) and you got a very nasty hold and flame class. Rocket for breaching. And charge and slam for control /breaching. Let it cook. It’s much more OP than it seems.
I believe a good way to make the sniper more relivant in the game is to focus on the weapons utility. Snipers are always a challenge for devs because buffing them leads to op damage but right now they struggle against anything but lights.
I would suggest that they change the sniper and utilize a few of these ideas.
1. Make the sniper shoot laser rounds that go through energy based barriers without damage reduction.
2. While on topic with energy rounds allow them to act as an emp to electronics like the guardian turrent and aps turrent.
3. Give the gun the ability to 3 shot cables on platforms to break them so the platform comes down.
4. Than Also give it the ability to shoot through walls but no more than 1 or else hackers will reek havic with that. It would make sonar grenades, motion sensor, and the tracking darts played a lot more often and dependacy on medium players to help by using sonar.
Some of these Ideas above can be future gadgets instead that buff that weapon specifically (Energy bullets, Full Metal Jacket bullets) that way you don't buff the characters weapon purely. It removes the already useless at range gadgets for important ones for ranged fighters but also penatlizes the players that want to run in hip firing by giving them less close range gadgets.
If you really want to go crazy give them a sonar dart gun similar to the tracking dart but instead it only activates after traveling a certain distance (maybe an dicator before firing to help with that) but keep the pings low to like 2. That way they can snipe from a far but cant stand in the next room. BUT....
Than you need to give Mediums (support) a glitch fog grenade to prevent sonars, tracking darts, recon, and the mentioned sonar dart. Its needed in order to cap without getting sniped through walls because of the dart. The distance your forced to play to utilize the dart also lowers your time to react to someone capping the Cashout so there's counter play to the buffs and risk and reward.
There's bloom on the revolver, that's why it feels unreliable. It's always been like that if i m not mistaken. I don't know why, it's not like it's insane and needs bloom to not be abused. I wish they'd get rid of that
Na fr
I think its a bug
@@wandalko1 i think it s meant to be like that it s always been there on the revolver
Can anyone tell me wat bloom is plz?
@@sonrozyfact4300 Random bullet spread/deviation, basicly
You did the riot shield dirty
Don't care, I'm still using riot shield every game
I completely agree with revolver choice, my favorite weapon by far but I always seem to miss somehow when my sight is right over them. Which could possible be fixed with giving customizable sights or what not on your weapons. Like a revolver with a red dot would be super nice to have. But again I do feel something is fundamentally wrong with revolver in the regard where somehow you end up missing shots when you really think it should’ve hit
The sniper should take F tier.
its not but 99 percent of light players are f tier
no way revolver b. there 3 weapons for med that allow u to continiously deal dmg without exposing yourself which are shotgun, cl and revolver. if you understand angles and positions you play, have a good crosshair placement when you peek and abuse that peeker advantage hard- revolver is the beast. i clutched a lot of situations with low hp when i was jigglin cover. and your team are really dependant on having their medium alive as long as possible. i agree that it's harder weapon to master since you have play properly and aim for headshots, but it's not making weapon worse. visual recoil is an big issue tho, you have to take your time between shots when you peek mid+ range target. but still a or a+ weapon tho.
I would not put shield into the D. It's more like at C or even at B. On some maps it's actually a dicent weapon if you know how to block bullets with your left side. I would swap knifes and shield with places, since throwing knifes are garbage
ur lost
I love using the shield against throwing knives. It hard counters them.
i think it's not about "being a bad weapon" It's more about losing options. Yes? shield can be annoying and yes you can hit and block with left side but what will you do if someone initiates from far away
@@fshustrov That's why I said that it's usable only on some maps. I would not pick shield on Vegas an Seoul since they are really open maps. But at Monaco and Skyway it's actually good.
What's the best specialization for light class after 1.5??
Flamethrower is a lot better than C tier. Should be in high B since it does so much work outside of TTK
The problem is, full auto weapons are good at every range. I had more fun when the bloom bug was in the game. Suddenly all the weapons were viable.
Cl40 main and I have so much fun with mines and one shotting lights with a mine so fun, feels really hard in 1v1 and against heavy’s but good utility for holding the cash out
Nice work dude
Very informative
dawg the flamethrower has all of a sudden become OP
Flamethrower is garbage
@@LizardHunter777 just say you don’t know how to use the mesh or dome shield. Because when you actually use your abilities it’s op asf especially considering you can easily burn all gas and goo
Well made my friend
What would u guys recommend a player on Xbox who struggles to hit his shots use in the way of class and weapons 😅
Flamethrower
Flamethrower is free kills for console players. I run ranked tournaments on ps5 in pc lobbies w my friends and I ROUTINELY outscore them just because of how op the fucking flamethrower is
Sniper can be very good in the right hands. Obviously the xp-54 ect will be better but i have solo defended a cashout in ranked with a sniper, crane and glitch nades
I started using the M60 full time after the update. I felt like I instantly was hitting more shots than before😅
Solid vid bro thanks
I cant wait to get to diamond just using hammer
Hard disagree with one of the reasons for sledge being low, sledge hard counters defib
Bro you sound a little ill, take some cough drops. Hope you get better, luv your vids!
Just want to add about medium shield, it doesn't trigger mines 😁
It also protects you from rockets :)
lh1 in B is crazy for me
It melts players if u catch them off guard and they aren’t strafing
The visual recoil is just too much, you can't rapid fire at close range consistently. Forced to take medium range fights you still lose vs Scar and AK
@@LizardHunter777 90%+ winrate in fights with meds on range. after 2 first games with it visual recoil stop being an issue
Not ma sniper 😭
Also feel the flamethrower is going to be in the meta. Had a heavy run it with two mediums, and mesh shield.
It was annoying AF
Just stand on a roof or out of his range. Meta or not it is still a fun weapon to use
He's underestimating the flamethrower hard.
@@fshustrov Maybe me calling it possible meta is strong, though how they used it was very effective. If you shot at them from a distance he would put up a mesh shield, and get healed by a healer. Then cant do much else when they come for the cash box. It was cringe
@@GLoveJFbreak shield? 2 mediums should melt it usually. Or gas
@@GLoveJF yes bruh people don’t understand when your team works around you and ur flamethrower you dick on pretty much everybody. Add in the fact that you can just tap the trigger on a trap filled cashout and it all goes away. This guy needs to learn how to use the flamethrower so he stops disrespecting it like this
What is ASAP?
As Soon As Possible
@@rafaelcarreno2471 gracias
English not your first language or am I just really, really fucking old now?
Fcar is to strong against heavys...
Judging by the way you critique bronze players i assume im a Clay player
Sord is a
Lol @100s hours of aim training. 😂
This patch was aids adding bloom to everything, not even mildly interested until it's patched. Beyond that, the game has dozens of issues and I just can't take it seriously anymore. It's been taken over by loser 1 viewer cheaters on Twitch and 3 stack cheese metas against every asshole who dares to solo queue.
There is zero chance they can fix the core problems in time. It's Joever.
They will be fine because most people are having fun regardless of what issues they have. It's the most hype shooter on the market, it's not over it's just started. Nice cope though.
Im with you. I played yesterday and the whole time i was just sighing. I havent played at all today and dont plan to.
it already lost 30% of its players in a month.
it has less players than 10 year old Rust...
"most hype shooter on the market"
@@stillnotchill2560
Why do people take every game so seriously all the time. Just have fun! fuck ranked. The game has too much bullshit anyway XD
@stillnotchill2560 the finals is currently #7 in FPS shooters on steam haha its not the most hype by a longgg way