16 FLOORS UP - Abandoned tower block - Lift Machinery ("intricate detail")
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- Опубліковано 21 бер 2022
- A lot of research went into this video!
I've spent a lot of time with 'WHAT DOES WHAT', LABELLING (tracked with the video), an ANIMATION to explain the floor vanes, and many other FINISHING TOUCHES touches gives you a massive amount of detail.
Said to be the tallest building in Buckinghamshire, due for demolision very soon. Built as an accomodation block back in 1969.
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I served an apprenticeship as a lift maintenance engineer with Otis in the early 70s but I left the industry before solid state came in so this video is something of a revelation to me. Of course I could understand what you were pointing out but I would be hopelessly lost trying to fault find on that controller. Thanks for the education!
The music, editing, amazing. You get that eerie nostalgic feeling, almost leminal...
Shame to see Kone gears in such a sad state. We had loads of these around Islington when I worked there and they made beautiful sounds and had a brilliant bit of operation. The ones that operated on the Thyristor drives were the best
Amazing. Those openings at the top of the shafts made me feel dizzy! Great that the cabinets are relatively untouched. Superb editing as always.
hell of vid and editing !! Thanks !!!! Gorgeous amchinery and cabinet, even when it is not relays, this early solid state controls are very interesting
Thanks very much for the compliment and your comment 38911!
Great Video!!
Thanks Mr S!
Once again a very cool and well made video 👍🏻
Ad. 5:40, i guess you mean older drives than those with chopper/inverter. Here in poland we have DC express lifts with ward-leonard drive which came in mid 60's as license from swedish asea-graham. They existed in two variants, geared with high-speed motor, up to 1.7m/s and gearless with low-speed motor up to 2.5m/s. Both were slightly different in the matter of creating the velocity curve but both were stopped electrically, and brakes were applied later, when the motor shaft was arleady not moving anymore. The exception was an emergency stop, of course!
But in case of normal squirell-cage motors, braking from slow speed to full stop was done by brake's friction.
GREAT ARTWORK !!!
thanks!
Excellent.
thanks
Yery interesting and different can't wait for part 3 (brilliant)
Awesome video
Thanks!
Nice building and nowhere near old enough to be torn down, what a waste!
Very cool!
thanks
Here in Finland (I believe it's home to Kone lifts) I remember hearing that nostalgic slowed down chime many times in my childhood around the 90's
“CUNTICLE”. That is an EPIC tag!
Aside from your usual quality content and detailed descriptions, I love your choice of royalty-free mood music. I could fall asleep listening to it... not your vids though! Keep up the good work.
your animations are excellent.
Thanks for your comment and usual Sam! It's appreciated :)
Awesome video u really put a lot of work in this videos
thanks!
Thank you, your video comparing the old and new setups answered a question for me. I always wondered what that whine/whistle was on those old Tesco lifts, as they came to a stop. Never in a million years would I have guessed it was the brake! Great footage as usual.
The whooping noise (if that's the noise you mean) is the motor configuration being switched from high to low power and vice versa. The noise is just the vibration created by the motor windings being connected between star and delta (google 'star and delta motor', as this is another topic in itself!!). The screech noise is the brake being applied to an already rotating motor.
@@mrmattandmrchay ah yes I was getting confused there then. The star delta for startup made sense, but I hadn't thought about slow down as well. Either way it's thanks to your great videos that we learn more about these things. I do miss the siren videos, started watching some of them again the other day. Sadly I never managed to 'see them in action '.
These are variable voltage variable frequency motors, the frequency of the voltage is reduced to cause the motor to run slow. The speed of the motor is controlled by varying the frequency and voltage going to the motor, thus a vvvf motor. You can hear the frequency of the current as it drops down into a frequency that’s audible. The slowest speed using the Lowest frequency in the system. As more speed is required, the frequency will increase along with the voltage, that’s why you hear the whine at its slowest speed. Ever run a cordless drill at a slow speed ? The speed of the motor is reduced by lower voltage and you will hear the frequency at that slow speed.
@@perrymckinney6146 Sorry, I meant the yellow motors in the old Tesco motor room. Yes you can clearly hear the wine from the motor driven by the VFD, I am not a fan of VFD driven motors at all.
The corner windows 🪟 were nice
Its crazy seeing that tac5 controller, i work in mid-rise apartments all with tac 35 controllers. A lot has changed in the way elevators are controlled but they have stayed the same too in some ways
This video is very interesting . I've enjoyed a lot of this video and also i' ve learnt too much of elevators. Congratulations
Thanks very much Miguel :)
Nice👍
thanks
Very detailed animation and labelings! Bet the KONE Traffic Master System 200 was used a lot for cheaper/low entry KONE lifts in residential buildings back in the 1980s-1990s, whereas the TMS600 one was used in the mid range low to mid rise KONE lifts. Wonder what were the original lifts here before KONE modernised them (perhaps OTIS or Express Lift?)
Certainly a quality video. Excellent animation. That building was probably very nice in it’s day. It’s a shame to see it looking like that.
Thanks for the comment Carol. Would have loved to see it before it shut.
Fantastic video I find all of your videos interesting. I find it more helpful with voice over
Thanks Daniel. I either theme the video towards music and titles, or voice overs. To put a voice over to just 'part' of the video (excluding the ending) would be a bit weird. And to voice-over the whole video would have taken more time, and you'd be waiting another month for me to finish it LOL!! :D
@@mrmattandmrchay yes I understand it take ages to voice over as i experienced from my channel
Love your videoes! Nicely done with labeling and animations on top.
Keep up with the awesome work!!!
If you ever planning to come to Norway, contact me. I can show you an old military building that was abandoned and later re-purposed. It also contains an old elevator from the 50-60s that should not run, but that we still use ;)
Ah brilliant! Thanks very much for the offer. We do have a couple of sites (work related) in Norway, but unfortunately it's very rare that I go there nowadays. But I'll keep it in mind if I do ever go to Norway. Thanks very much for the comment and compliment Pondus :)
i wonder if all the bugs, spiders etc. appreciate the old lift equipment in a similar way 😂 joking aside amazing vid with so much detail about every aspect of the lifts
Thanks very much ZZ9! Took quite a lot of work this one!
I have worked on those similar elevators. Kone stuff!
is there a chance to film any similar lifts like this in working condition? the way it modulates motor speed seems unique
That animation is amazing Matt, you even did the animation of the doors starting off slowly then opening at full speed, very good! When was this place abandoned, roughly?
The secret is, create the whole animation in slow motion. Nest all layers, so the whole sequence becomes one, then you can speed it up or slow it down at any point - becomes very controllable. I believe it was abandoned in 2013.
@@mrmattandmrchay That's really cool! I've never thought of doing it in slow motion like that, I might give it a go!
It is software specific though. This being Adobe Premiere, which integrates with Adobe Photoshop and all the other adobe products. Create all the layers in photoshop > import layers into Premiere > animate each layer separately is the principle of how it works. I'm making it sound easier than it actually is though!
@@mrmattandmrchay Mabye you can make a "behind the scenes" video sometime!
These are really awesome, thanks for uploading. I don't understand how these don't gain more traction
was that a pun? 'gain more traction' - traction lift?! lol. Thanks for the comment
@@mrmattandmrchay haha, I didn't realize what I did there x)
All in all a very interesting video. It looks to be an analog system to me (not a lift engineer) Tell me are the latest modern systems digital, are they 'smart' enough to have self-diagnostics on them?
Did any of your photographed documents have cct diag from the Chime Module ? Would love to replicate one.
Love your videos, anyone else been giggling at the graffiti at the beginning? 😂😂🤣🤣 Womble what? 🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂 so juvenile.
Also, could you imagine wiring all them cabinets up? how long does it take to install lifts? ✌✌☮☮
I wonder why they had windows at the top of the elevator shaft, seems like a easy way for water to find it's way inside the shaft, otherwise it seems to be a very interesting building, wonder for how long it's been abandoned
Hypnotic & informative.
TF does _megger_ mean??
Fantastic video! Loved the views from the Controller cabinet and all the labels, it makes it very interesting. One thing I’ve wondered is how the lift stops at the correct position of the landing when the two door levelling plates both line up as it looks like there’s a 1 or 2 inch overlap before the lift stops yet the lift stopping is accurate to less than a cm on the floor level- see at 18:19.
Thanks very much Harri! The animation, I tried to make the stopping a little delayed as sometimes it takes half a second for the processor to register the vane, stop the motor then apply the brake. Admittedly, it did run on a little further than it should after getting all 3 vanes together. Essentially, vanes 1 2 and 3 should stop the lift level with the floor. The more you overlap the levelling vanes, the more adjustment you get if the lift overruns a little or takes time to stop.
Fun fact: Xt22s and Coded shutters 8 or cs8 sirens are related making them cousins bcuz they have the same port 10/12 ratio, built Similar and have shutters difference is the motor, paint scheme, no intake cones, no hat/shroud and from different Condiments the US and the UK
I find it rather funny that someone has labelled the two limit switches at the top with "limit" and "final limit" -sounds a bit like version naming scheme often used by graphic designers and artists "final version" "final final version" etc... :D
If the "limit" triggers, the vane system has failed somehow and the lift ran to far. If the "final limit" triggers the VFD or contactor failed somehow and the lift ran WAY to far. If also that fails it would probably run into a hard stop until the motor shuts off on overcurrent.
@@mrfrenzy. good to know, thanks!
Sorry for going off topic, but technology is ducking amazing. Imagine that it’s 1990, and someone was in this same situation. They would have to enter at ground, or bellow if there would be, and it was better, easier or, the only option. Then they would needed to climb and explore physically, unless they had one of those Johnny 5’s that they could send in, that is if it would transmit back through all the material, unless it was wired. That would be a loooong wire.
But now drones are capable of this and more. Have you seen the racing?
Hi there, I used to re-wind electric motors for 20 years and repaired alot of lift motors etc brakes etc etc... where you an ex lift engineer?? Where do you get your information regarding the control panels
I think I will open a new side hustle, as a lift consultant I will be taking some lift enthusiast for guided walks for fiver :D
whats the chance of these just powering up and working if they somehow get power
I'd say there's a good chance that it would work if everything is intact and unmolested. But components are vulnerable to vandals/thieves/critters and there's also a chance things have rusted.
what software is used to do the animations please thanks
Adobe photoshop, imported into Adobe Premier
I'm kinda curious when there's going to be a new intro
I think those abandon building you should go with group. Don't go alone in it because places not have people after few months it become haunted so paranormal activity can cause by "bad spirits" especially paranormal activities can occur in night if bad spirits a bit hard to show up at morning but strong spirits can show up at morning inside building in dark spot that camera may record it than people eyes
There were two of us. The problem with going in groups is you'#re much more likely to be caught, and everyone gets each-others way - it's not my style to have other people in my videos.
Paranormal activity, I'm not saying it doesn't exist because 'who knows' what happens outside of our own world, but when I see an abandoned an building, 'bad spirits' is not something that I immediately think of to be honest. I'm also not saying that I don't believe in it, but I haven't personally had any problems so far :) Thanks very much for the comment anyway.
Turn it on
7:47 wow, they actually bothered labeling everything
Come to think of it I wonder what the old carlyle buildings elevator looks like near me buildings been abandoned since the late 1900 it was the first building in ohio to get a elevator installed
wow, that'd be an elevator worth looking at :)
@@mrmattandmrchay yeh
Its a shame the developers of the fancy new estate wont be keeping this and renovating it into nice affordable flats, its a stunning building
If they did, it would be an eye-sore in the middle of a brand new housing development! It's supposed to be the highest building in buckinghamshire. But I suppose the amount of work that would be involved would be massive.
Instantly recognised the "smile" graffiti, this around cov?
Was this a council block of flats...? Or was it but turned it into a homeless block.. because is strange how they had toilet and bathrooms separate
My my, what lovely graffiti to open this video with!
i don't understand anything about electricity, i don't know how YT brought me here, but it's interesting
Would anyone happen to know who designed this amazing tower and if it’s still standing?
It's an accomodation block which was build to house employees at a rapidly expanding site. Not sure if it was designed by anyone notable, but it is still standing, but due for demolition very soon. When you see part 3 (coming soon) you'll also see why you can no longer enter...!
@@mrmattandmrchay It’s a shame it’s not accessible anymore, I was kinda hoping to visit it this year. I tried searching for the architect online, but haven’t found anything so far. On an unrelated note, it’s a huge shame they demolished London’s Elgin Estate towers in the 90s, because I loved their architecture. Would’ve been nice to see what lifts they had.
Just checked the tower block "Bible" but couldn't find anything regarding it in there. Plus don't know the exact name of the tower. That could be possibly because it wasn't built by a local authority, so can't tell you who designed it or who the construction company was. The base reminds me of Point Royal in Bracknell somewhat.
@@starmech I’m not from the UK so I might be wrong, but the only name I’ve been able to find online was ”Wilton Park tower." This whole site was owned by the Ministry of Defence who used it as their School of Languages. The tower was used as accommodation for soldiers and officers. This is the only information that I’ve been able to find online, no architect or contractor. The University of Edinburgh Tower Block UK website didn’t have any info either. Just out of curiosity, what’s the "tower block Bible" you mentioned?
Cruella De Vil, Cruella De Vil!
If She Doesn't Scare You, No Evil Thing Will!
13:02 TAC-5 uses GTOs instead of IGBTs
I just looked that up, very interesting and informative! Thanks!
Here is a link if anyone is interested: www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-igbt-and-vs-gto/
I don’t think I would like to bring those machine room parts home sadly. If I did then I would be cleaning it for a month. I really don’t like bugs though.
All the bits I have, I purposely don't clean them as they look better with the grime (preserves their history a bit!). Not sure I'd keep the bugs though!!
alas, how much free copper!
I wonder what kind of bird that was at the end of the video. I bet it’s a pigeon.
More than likely! "winged rats" in my opinion!
Oooooooooooooooh.
another mrmattandmrchay video (eventually!!)
I think is otis
slm türkiyeden kimlerin eli değmiş kimler emekli olmuş kimler yapmiştir vay vay
They should just pull it down it's dangerous mind very good video.
Thanks very much Irene. It is due for demolision soon. But as you'll see in Part 3 (coming soon), it's a typical '1960s/70s' design and would be very difficult and costly to modernise.
Thanks for the reply that's why I think it should be pulled down I think it's also a fire hazard but it's a great video x
It’s very unfortunate that it will be demolished soon…
6:47 You should have released the brake mechanism (the rusty lever on top of the solenoid). Lifts are usually driven down by the motor as the counter weights are heavier. Release the brake and the lift will come flying up and hit the underside of the motor room floor
you should really talk during your videos. I would like to watch this in picture in picture mode when at work but can not since you do not talk
Thanks for the comment, and I hear what you're saying. However, it's not really my style. Mainly because I prefer to give meaningful comments and not doing a "say what I see" style commentary. In the past, it's taken longer for me to edit this style of video because I've hated what I've said out loud and I've had to edit it out. I'd rather do proper voice overs, but it depends what type of video I'm doing. This video was all about labeling parts and that's what I spent the editing time on here.