@@sirenealertedu1ermercredid256 I'm 400 miles away from there, so I won't be filming anything. I only go there when I'm away on business, which is once or twice per year.
Hello, to everyone: keep out of lift machine rooms. Me, experienced person was already in over 30 lift machine rooms and Shafts, and again KEEP OUT. Just by doing something wrong you can die in a few seconds. Sorry for spamming, but my last words are KEEP OUT!!! Sorry for bad English.
Interresting motor room, that wooden box. Two wirings sticking out of it. One thing I noticed straight aways is the asbestos ceiling boards. Structurally the floor of the motor room is really old fashioned, the motor is directly supported by a few steel beams and the concrete is just infill, probably not reinforced because of the short span between the rusty beams.
It used to be common for the cells in batteries to be made of glass. In order to avoid breaking them, they were often housed in wooden boxes such as that one. The cells often resembled jars, which would explain the round outlines inside the box. On a similar note, the glass battery cells is also the origin of the myth that you shouldn't set car batteries on the ground. When batteries were made of wood and glass, setting them on damp concrete or dirt could cause the wooden case to swell, putting pressure on the glass cells and breaking them. It became standard practice to store the batteries on wooden shelves, or on top of a wood plank to isolate them from the concrete. Once batteries started being manufactured out of more modern materials the practice wasn't necessary anymore, but it is still a common misconception that you shouldn't set batteries straight on the ground.
Those Battery's in that alarm backup, would have been probably Accumulators, glass jars full of acid with electrodes, They used the same thing on master clocks in hospitals, in early days, that's my bet, great video by the way, as always 😊
AMAZING VID.through all this years controller probably needed to be upgraded because of lack of psarts or meet new regulations. But most of it is still the original, glad to hear it is listed.
Great to watch, if only through clenched fingers. Thanks to my phobia of lifts, particularly old ones, there is no way I would have even stepped into an old lift like that. I can't be doing with seeing any of the shaft structure in old gated lifts. Irrational I know but there nevertheless.
I’m 2 years late to this, but an observation/guess I’ve made is it could be possible the upgraded cabinet is when the documents where put there, which would mean it was installed in 1977.
Nice old lift, that controller cabinet is so modern compared to the rest it's not funny. pity when the old controller was replaced, that they didn't just leave the old one there and add the new one. That wooden battery box probably contained No 6 cells - aka telephone batteries. Wooden box's were regarded as the best place for these (and lead acid cells) as they are not overly bothered by leaks & keep the cells at a relatively stable temperature. Placing cells on concrete etc was seen as bad as cold concrete mucked up the chemistry, best to have the whole cell at the same temp, hence wooden box, or at least a wooden shelf (old school thinking) No 6 cells have an incredibly long shelf life, especially in this use as they normally would do nothing, just waiting for someone to press the button, so if there was a maintenance schedule, entirely reliable. My main observation was the motor brake didn't seem to be operating, I was expecting loud clunks from it etc.
looks like a modern control panel nice elison over load and isolator on the wall the wooden box is for the alarm bell batteries normally flag cell batteries (we still have them at work) possibly had lead acid accumulators in it when new
Most interesting , but if it is a Hammond and Champness controller why is there a diagram from Shorts lifts ? ( part of Marryat and Scott at one time ), there would be a timer to allow you time to enter the lift car and select your floor without it being called away before you had a chance to pull the landing gate open.
Feels like it's switching from star to delta too quickly (almost instantly). Issue with the configuration of one of the timers? Would be easier to level if the star-delta switchover period was longer :-)
So this type of motor slip ring used up and down contactors within in the controller cabin with the starting relays for each phase? Since this elevator is fully manually operated, up and hence the need for a phase reserving relay? I doubt a steel controller cabinet would have been installed way back in 1095.
You know now if you think about it you can make a elevator with 5 things .a building with a elevator shaft .a Arduino .a good motor .and a small wooden (or metal) room .And some THICC ROPE
the button will have 2 sets of contacts on it, a copper strip and a spring thats all, 1 normally made and 1 normally closed, so you cant push both in at the same time, bakalite everywhere.
My country is filled with Schindler and Otis lifts. You can't find a new model like the 3300 or 5500. I found a 5500 at a shopping mall. Bruh also my country us filled with Schindler D-Series
As again, thanks for everyone who watched the video when it Premiered. Always great to chat to you, my viewers. Next video is tomorrow!
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@@sirenealertedu1ermercredid256 I'm 400 miles away from there, so I won't be filming anything. I only go there when I'm away on business, which is once or twice per year.
You forgot to tell us that the time wasn’t right. Then I was late by 80 mins.
Hello,
to everyone: keep out of lift machine rooms.
Me, experienced person was already in over 30 lift machine rooms and Shafts, and again KEEP OUT. Just by doing something wrong you can die in a few seconds. Sorry for spamming, but my last words are KEEP OUT!!!
Sorry for bad English.
Tizu und Titandula - I’ve been in almost 30 as well and I’m 10. I understand how dangerous the moving parts are and know not to get too close.
Interresting motor room, that wooden box. Two wirings sticking out of it. One thing I noticed straight aways is the asbestos ceiling boards. Structurally the floor of the motor room is really old fashioned, the motor is directly supported by a few steel beams and the concrete is just infill, probably not reinforced because of the short span between the rusty beams.
It looks like the building actually caught on fire once. You can see the black marks on the walls of the outside of the machine room
It used to be common for the cells in batteries to be made of glass. In order to avoid breaking them, they were often housed in wooden boxes such as that one. The cells often resembled jars, which would explain the round outlines inside the box.
On a similar note, the glass battery cells is also the origin of the myth that you shouldn't set car batteries on the ground. When batteries were made of wood and glass, setting them on damp concrete or dirt could cause the wooden case to swell, putting pressure on the glass cells and breaking them. It became standard practice to store the batteries on wooden shelves, or on top of a wood plank to isolate them from the concrete. Once batteries started being manufactured out of more modern materials the practice wasn't necessary anymore, but it is still a common misconception that you shouldn't set batteries straight on the ground.
Those Battery's in that alarm backup, would have been probably Accumulators, glass jars full of acid with electrodes,
They used the same thing on master clocks in hospitals, in early days, that's my bet, great video by the way, as always 😊
AMAZING VID.through all this years controller probably needed to be upgraded because of lack of psarts or meet new regulations. But most of it is still the original, glad to hear it is listed.
38911bytefree this lift cant be modified according to regulations
Great to watch, if only through clenched fingers. Thanks to my phobia of lifts, particularly old ones, there is no way I would have even stepped into an old lift like that. I can't be doing with seeing any of the shaft structure in old gated lifts. Irrational I know but there nevertheless.
Seeing old stuff is just so emotional.......
haha, cool, you've found the right channel for nostalgic lifts! :)
@@mrmattandmrchay
Yes, surely! the lifts or the schlinder (1990) some model actually is so memorable to me! wow
I’m 2 years late to this, but an observation/guess I’ve made is it could be possible the upgraded cabinet is when the documents where put there, which would mean it was installed in 1977.
Great video. I guess if you're going to see a modernised lift control cabinet then it's good that the modern one is still a vintage.
3:36 min O.o OMG this nice old Machine. Thank you that you show us this things!
It's a real classic and glad we got to film it!
It's like 100+ years old
Always nice seeing new videos by you, keep on putting out quality content
Nice old lift, that controller cabinet is so modern compared to the rest it's not funny. pity when the old controller was replaced, that they didn't just leave the old one there and add the new one. That wooden battery box probably contained No 6 cells - aka telephone batteries. Wooden box's were regarded as the best place for these (and lead acid cells) as they are not overly bothered by leaks & keep the cells at a relatively stable temperature. Placing cells on concrete etc was seen as bad as cold concrete mucked up the chemistry, best to have the whole cell at the same temp, hence wooden box, or at least a wooden shelf (old school thinking)
No 6 cells have an incredibly long shelf life, especially in this use as they normally would do nothing, just waiting for someone to press the button, so if there was a maintenance schedule, entirely reliable.
My main observation was the motor brake didn't seem to be operating, I was expecting loud clunks from it etc.
Legends say itll run another 100 years
looks like a modern control panel nice elison over load and isolator on the wall the wooden box is for the alarm bell batteries normally flag cell batteries (we still have them at work) possibly had lead acid accumulators in it when new
Nice asbestos on the ceiling. Good Video
Most interesting , but if it is a Hammond and Champness controller why is there a diagram from Shorts lifts ? ( part of Marryat and Scott at one time ), there would be a timer to allow you time to enter the lift car and select your floor without it being called away before you had a chance to pull the landing gate open.
Great video :)
Y
Got here at the right time
Did think this one would be a bit early for a Trislot motor :)
What happens if this Elevator breaks down?
Then it wont move
Shame the original motor and control board are no longer up there
Epic vid
Elevator bob needs a redesign for his website!
Feels like it's switching from star to delta too quickly (almost instantly). Issue with the configuration of one of the timers?
Would be easier to level if the star-delta switchover period was longer :-)
This is why I prefer to take the stairs.
So this type of motor slip ring used up and down contactors within in the controller cabin with the starting relays for each phase? Since this elevator is fully manually operated, up and hence the need for a phase reserving relay? I doubt a steel controller cabinet would have been installed way back in 1095.
TheTheo58 I agree! “1095” would probably be a bit early for a steel cabinet. LOL :-)
*1905
The bell box batteries were dry cell batteries rated at 1.5 volts.
Some even had cranks instead of deadman buttons
Great video
loads of lift companies have had it over the years, all added bits to it.
it also has the wiff of hammond and champness
that controller looks like a modified hydraulic controller. simples.
it is a h and c controller.
Appears to be an Otis (Waygood Otis) #1 machine. Probably had a 1SOB controller. Still a few around.
You know now if you think about it you can make a elevator with 5 things
.a building with a elevator shaft
.a Arduino
.a good motor
.and a small wooden (or metal) room
.And some THICC ROPE
the button will have 2 sets of contacts on it, a copper strip and a spring thats all, 1 normally made and 1 normally closed, so you cant push both in at the same time, bakalite everywhere.
sorry 1 n/o and 1 n/c
a five way trailing cable with up dn common and 2 for the car gate switch. simples.
Why do I feel like I've seen this exact same lift before?
You said at 8:00 PM so I am *VERY* late.
So if i understand your diagram correctly, the resistor bank is a kind of ancient soft start so to speak ? Thanks for an awesome video!
Two-button, hyphenate.
9:19 I would of asked if I could have those contacters
I thought it had a timer relay so it would allow the lift to slow down a little bit before the brake slams on therefore preventing wear on the brakes.
Are they old 1905 elevators operational?
Nope it was shut of in 1989
Great video! Enjoyed the premiere! :-)
Lift Tracker same here
I MISSED THE PREMIERE!:/
Sae
Without batteries the emergency alarm call buttons would be useless. So how would anyone who was trapped in the lift get help.
Phone
Hello
What's the "yard" level?
the button is etchells condem and muir
Etchells, Congdon and Muir.......
ECM
www.gracesguide.co.uk/Etchells,_Congdon_and_Muir
Can't believe this is 100 years old
Yee
My country is filled with Schindler and Otis lifts. You can't find a new model like the 3300 or 5500.
I found a 5500 at a shopping mall. Bruh
also my country us filled with Schindler D-Series
this Thursday there February 20 there is the siren test in castairs film the siren test the siren C horn CS8 CARNWATH ?
the 2 other contactors are to protect the buffer resistors,
anti quick reverse.
the 2 timers underneath will be set to 3 seconds.
@@tonybaines3332 Always great to hear your comments Tony
Great video