I am jamaican an this is one of the few logical videos i have seen on the internet. Good assessment of the race. All the rest are saying kishane got robbed etc an its not so if you have advanced knowldege of the rules of the sport you will see it was very close but noah won. Sometimes we as jamaicans are sore losers an only think with our emotions & not with logics. Bless up for this video!
My brother we just have to be honest about this call it what it is. Kishane will have a lot more chances to recover from this going forward. Thanks for the support.👊🏾
Technically he did get robbed because per the rules both should have been awarded the gold medal. See same thing happen again in the 200m, and the rule clearly states that the clock is to the hundredth not the thousandth of a second. So the first mistake cause the second mistake because now they cannot go back and apply the correct rule because then they would look like the idiots they are. But per my prior take Kishane needs to watch and worry about the finish line and stop worry about where other people are, that cost him same way it cost Shericka and Shelly at worlds,.
In the rules of the game both athlete should have received gold. A tiebreaker should only be used if it’s a semifinal and the last person is to be added to the final. The head of JAAA had 1/2 hour after the race to appeal and didn’t. Do you remember Jamaica’s 1,2,2 , the same could have been applied.
As an unbiased american who knows what I’m talking about in this sport, I’ll try to help with my .02. Stephen Francis did not get Kishane “wrong”. All a coach can do is properly educate and prepare an athlete. Think about people like TaLou, Keni Harrison, etc., with their absolutely BRILLIANT coach John Smith, whom I totally think is one of the best coaches this planet has ever seen…definitely even more knowledgeable and experienced than Francis, but those athletes continue to flop in big meets! As a person who has run on all of these levels and coached this sport, I understand what I see, and what I see is that Francis poured his entire heart and soul into Kishane, he’s worked on Kishane’s injury situation, worked on his mind big time, taught him how to shut Lyles and all the noise out of his mind, etc. Coach Francis did a WONDERFUL job with Kishane…the problem is Kishane, himself. Simply put, Kishane runs a style that could make him have injury easily. Also, Kishane is not use to how his body feels when he has REAL competition! A true test for Kishane would be to race Christian Coleman…neck to neck while Christian smokes him for most of the race…what will he do? Kishane is just like ShaCarri…although he fixed his start this year, he’s a runner who will catch you from way behind, or he will lead you and have full control, but the one thing Kishane does NOT know how to do, is run in his own lane and stay focused on his execution when he’s with someone who is stride for stride with him. Doesn’t matter how experienced a runner is…when we are in a rare and unique situation where someone is stride for stride with us, the ANSWER is to relax and focus on your execution, while remembering to: breathe properly, relax with shoulder down and arms up, keep those knees high and maintain form (very important), keep that body stiff, lean that torso at the line not just as much as possible but as STRATEGICALLY as possible (for instance, if your left/right shoulder can make it to the line before you can do it from the front, lean to one side or something…whatever gets any part of the torso to the line…get it there quickly), and moreover, do all of this while remembering to maintain the fastest frequency and the most loose legs possible. Kishane hasn’t yet learned how to do this, and the real reason Kishane lost this race is because of not Noah, but FRED…Fred got a lighting fast reaction, Kishane caught him quickly, but the two men faught hard to get rid of one another ally he way to the line, so his focus was only on Fred…not his execution, nothing. Coach Francis did his part…now is time for Kishane to do his part. Trust me, we have seen this a million times from Marion Jones, Carmelita Jeter, definitely TaLou, etc. The best of the best make this same mistake…the key is to simply have a little more experience in this situation and knowing how to respond. Coach Francis prepared him on every single thing, and tried to prepare him for this also, but nothing matches actual experience doing it.
Thank you so much. Hope one of the members from Coach Francis' team will see this. Thanks again for such a good explanation. All these guys are so good. In fact, I admire runners, because I wish I could, but I don't love it. I can barely even walk one lap with praying and asking God to hold my hands. lol
@@stephfrancis7109 my pleasure, and thank you for the positive feedback! I feel like MVP is already aware of what I explained, but most of the fans do not. One thing about we who participate in this sport, is we are very honest about our imperfections. Most conversations are about what we can fix…not about someone’s feelings on constructive criticism. Even Elaine when she won with 10.61, Francis thought the race was well executed but she hesitated a little at the start. They fixed it, then 10.54! BAM…see what I mean? Francis is a brilliant man…I think he saw what I saw and more!
@stevie586 I fully agree with everything you said. As a fan, I realized that Kishane got a bad start and I believe he rushed his drive phase just to catch Fred and as you said didn't stay in his own lane and was racing Fred instead of executing the race. This came from lack of experience to these situations. Last year on the circuit, Kishanr ran down Christian, Noah and others and almost catch them at the line and reduced his pb to around 10.85. All the races he had this year (except the Olympic final) he was ahead of the pack so he could have focus on his execution. But because of his bad start and trying to catch Fred which ended up that he rushed his phases, it lead to lost of focus in execution. A lot of people are staying because he didn't practice to run through the line, which I disagreed, he ran hard through the line but with poor execution because of the pressure of Fred and lack of experience to cope with this said pressure. He needs more runs on the circuit, since Franno can keep him healthy to deal with this pressure. Also I am delighted that Kishane realized this problem himself and is resolute in making sure it will not happen again. Also, I like to refer to Kishane as Franno's baby. Franno typically picks an athlete and make them his pet and pour his heart out in them. This is what I observed from the outside looking in. He loves developing young athletes more than training established stars in the sport, which he stated in an interview. He develops and just maintain and move on to the next. That is what he did with Asafa, then Shelly, then Elaine now Kishane. One might say it lead to the breakdown of Shelly and Elaine's relationship and Shelly eventual exit.
@@sweetangelplus I absolutely love the things you’ve just stated. I have one, and only ONE disagreement with what you stated above. It’s not that Kishane had a bad start…Kishane actually had an excellent start, but Fred had an unusually fast reaction to the gun, which put him out front really fast, but Kishane caught and got beside him very fast because Kishane’s drive and acceleration were very good. Fred got out so well it makes others look bad, but the others were great also. But the rest of what you stated, 100%…EXCELLENT POST you just made and I’m in complete agreement with it all except for the start part! From the beginning, yup, he rushed his drive phase because Fred startled him a bit and he wasn’t use to running against another legit 9.7 runner who could match his power! Franno prepared him for this, but he had to actually experience it in real life to know how it affects him, and now he does. I 100% saw Prefontaine last year where Kishane had a slow start but came on like a darn freight train…lawd…Kishane was coming on strong and ran those guys down big time…it is one of the reasons Kishane has been on my radar all year, despite me thinking Seville would best him; he actually looked tons like Noah in that race, to be honest. Remember he had a race early season but he pulled up, and when he had that race, we are all like, “wait, did you all see that insane start from Kishane”, and we speculated he could go 9.6 or 9.7 with that kind of start…we were on T’s page talking about that (TxT Tracktime), so when he ran that fast, I personally was like, “yup, I know what the heck I saw in him that day”! Then, those 9.8’s and 9.77 had me like, “oh $hit, we Americans are about to lose this one unless Fred comes through and runs one of his old times for the win, LOL”! His execution in all of those races, even the last 9.9, was wonderful and he was in his own element there. But in the final of Paris, he was not Kishane…he was the guy trying to get Fred off his back! Next, I completely agree with you…Kishane ran all the way to the line AND he leaned as hard as he could. Many do not understand when frontside mechanics are done properly, it is difficult to lean as hard as those with the old backside mechanics, but the good thing is the frontside mechanics mean the person hits the line faster also. Last, OMG, you hit the nail on the hit with him being Franno’s “baby”. Franno reminds me tons and tons of myself; I am an absolute perfectionist with an insatiable appetite for knowledge & wisdom, and I also have to share my knowledge and wisdom with as many people as possible, in hopes I can help those people bring out their best. Franno had Shelly, did amazingly with her, took what he learned and applied it to Elaine to make her even better, and is now doing it to his new athletes. I absolutely saw the video you’re referencing where he made a comment a while back that he doesn’t want Shelly, etc. back, because he needs to make way for all the young talent he wants to teach…great memory! Franno really enjoys taking what he has learned and creating huge stars, and I am the exact same way. It is incredibly refreshing to read a comment from someone who clearly pays attention and knows what they’re talking about…you’ve given me a huge smile!
I think Bolt made a lot of Jamaican and other athletes think that they can slow down once they are infront, Even Bolt could have ran better times if he push straight through the line, They need to cut that out because its not just about winning, but also to make good times, set strong records.
Your reasoning is sound. Kishane has the talent, and with more experience and figuring out how not to let anyone get into his head (plus assuming very little injuries), he will be unstoppable.
Making him seem that he was the favorite going into the games was wrong even with Tia Clayton....she said it was different compared to being in the Jamaican Stadium....I agree in time they will both give the Americans and other countries some problems in the future....agree with you experience does matter over speed....
I agree with you. The Jamaican sprinters appear to be more focused on shutting it down in the heats than finishing strong in the finals. This has got to stop. Kishane and Oblique have it in them to be world beaters, but they can learn a lot from the likes of Tebogo when it comes to execution and temperament.
For real man, he will now know what to do next time. If you listen to his interviews you'll see that he is analytic with his approach to sprinting so he will be back stronger.
Thank you! I comment on a a few statements he made in that same interview and some people bun me out. Another thing, his body was so a custom to shut down before the finish line so that might have been a factor. Bless up Keshane and good content brother
Francis needs to train his athletes to run a full race. They all have the same pattern. Shutting down at 60m in a 100m race is a no no. Especially with athletes like Noah Lyles
You Jamaicans are usually very hard-core fans. But you seem unbiased in your analysis of Kishane's narrow loss. I admire your willingness to call out a national icon like Steve Francis. Your observation of Thompson's failure to lean at the finish is spot on. You should seriously consider applying for a position as track commentator/analyst on Jamaican TV.
Franno knows experience is a factor but he also knows his athlete is injury prone and they only managed to find a solution in March and so he couldn't risk running him in competitions to get that experience at the expense of a possible injury before the Olympics. During that interview he had to downplay it to keep his athlete confident, if he we on to say experience matters, his athlete would have had that on his mind and it would have played to his disadvantage. I see nothing wrong with the actions Franno took or the comments concerning his athlete. That comment was to keep Kishane positive
Best comment ever. No one seems to be concern with any of the things you identified. They focusing on he should have leaned more, or he don’t have enough experience. What about Kishane himself. What about how he feels physically and mentally. He’s running the races. He is not bolt or Shelly or Elaine or Asafa. He is Kishane and God has written a story specifically and specially for him. More races to come pray that he’s healthy.
All the athletes need to run straight through the finish line instead of slowing down before reaching the finish line. They need to learn to lean into the finish line / or what we Jamaicans say dip.. If not we will definitely continue to fall short in track and field. A lot of lessons for the athletes to learn from this Olympic 2024
Experience is lessons learned from doing... So the training is what coach Francis was speaking to..as to what the athlete can or can't do. I don't believe KT actually lost that race and the view from left of track at line looking back to right I believe would shed more light on whose torso was at the line first and more importantly, who passed through the line first.... But prop shots to the post...given
Justin Gatlin said the same thing before the Olympics started saying it would come back to bite him as he was used to shutting down 30m out and never running through the line..... basic athletics taught from young!!
You can't teach experience better you say he should have been places in a few races prior to the Olympics with some of the faster challengers so he could feel pressure towards the end of the race. But again with is injury prone status...you could see how Frano didn't want to risk injuries.
Why not share the medals? Broadbell leaned for the 110m hurdles and got the same time for the Silver medal but was given Bronze. It seems the rules keep changing.
experience was overstated. The issue with that race is the inordinate delay at the beginning. I have never seen a 100m or infact any sprint race took so long. Thats why he lost. listen to Asafa. Yess his inexperience played a part too. The organizers did that on purpose. why wasnt it done to any other race!? music at beginning of a 100m final is unheard of!
Stop with the excuses. There were 8 other sprinters that had to wait around the same way Kishane had to wait. This was not a conspiracy against Kishan Thompson. U sound ridiculous
@@greysaku only because you miss my point and never run track. same situation affects ppl differently. thats why there are sports psycologist. No one is saying that the 8 competitors werent subjected to the same conditions. we are saying KT was most likely to have had a negative effect due to his eagerness to run and this being his first major international outing. which a sensible educated person with critical thinking skills will see as no excuse just fact!!
@Inside_Ja how would it benefit Franno's athlete for him to decry Kishane's lack of experience pre race? Franno is the same one that said Shericka wasn't experienced at 200m, and she made an error and dropped out in the heats of the 200m. Franno learned from that and now we're still beating him. Nuance and context matters.
yeah you're spot on but a lot of what no-one is talking about is why on God's green earth you are so busy looking where another athlete is before the race is done. This is a bad habit and he was so busy looking at Kerley and looking for Noah he did not concentrate on getting to the finish line, that is why he tied up because he couldnt see them he was seeing Kerley and panicked. He needs to stop looking for people and look ahead. Look at Tebogo, he was daylight ahead of the field but did you see him looking for Noah, he was looking for the line. That is the habit he needs to break, After you cross the line then you can worry about other people all you want. He young but stop making age an excuse he is 23 years old not a child. Leave that to Quincy Wilson the 16 year old.
Experience?? Kishane lost to the fastest current 100m runner by 5/1000. yes FIVE ONE THOUSANDTH of a second-. My calculations they averaged 1022 cm/sec- or 1.022cm per 1/1000sec so 5/1000sec is 5 cm- Kishane lost by 5 cm-JUST 2 INCHES!!- not even a BLINK Sometimes -most times-you just get beaten by a better guy-better on that day. Stephen Francis was right-it was not the pressure-Kishane ran like HELL- Noah just ran a but quicker. Kishane has too much upper body weight to haul around-big biceps deltoids-broad shoulders-have to be accelerated-and pushed through the air-they wear you out. U BOLT-that big-was the exception-look at the women-Shelly-ShaCarri-not BIG people-Noah same story Kishane needs to find a way to lose that excess mass-and frontal area-legs lower torso-propel you-not HUGE arms shoulders chest
Seville still doesn't race a lot, he turns up for the qualifier and and the championships and that's it for him. He still could do better with the experience of racing a lot more. Other than that he has a mental blockage problem.
I said the same in another post. Glen Mills's handling of Oblique has been really strange over the last 2-3 years. He has not competed on the Diamond league circuit in more than 2 races in all of that time. It's a joke. He only competes at Racers Grand Prix. How's this guys supposed to learn how to overcome different conditions and competition in time to prep for Championships?
If I'm right didn't he say that kishane is like powell and he'always freeze in the finish at The Big Race and you know who is like that also talu don't mean anything bad love them no matter what❤❤
What happen to Mr Francis he was trying to hide Thompson speed at trials. We know what happend. He wanted to surprise the field at Olympic and blow them away.
Well now I'm telling you that experience can make you go faster or quicker, however you want to phrase. Experience can make you hold your nerves better and that can determine whether or not you win or lose.
Lol you expected him to say that he was gonna choke because he doesn't have experience? C'mon son. He said the right thing and he's actually correct. You don't want to add to the nerves. His coach has to give him confidence by telling him he can do it. Nerves are a part of it of course... Don't believe the bravado of even Noah Lyles.. He was definitely nervous for that 100. He almost ran his pb in the final. Sure he could have done better. We all know that but he did great. Also lots of athletes do great the first time out... Just sayin
Everybody knows experience matters in every discipline of life, but what exactly did you want SF to say in reaponse to that question? "Oh KT is talented but I believe his lack of experience is going to cost him an Olympic gold medal". What video would you have recorded and uploaded if SF had said that?
You realize how lacking your comment sounds? It was the fastest that won either. Kerley and Kishane are faster than Noah. Common sense will tell even a novice that speed must be a very big factor in all of this in spite of experience smh. Come on man, I didn't think I had to explain this simple logic.
Kishane, he ran 9.79 and lost by 5000th, this is a small margin, this is weak sauce. Kishane handled the pressure well since he ran very close to seasons best 9.77!. Experience doesn't make you faster Remember Asafa Powell, lots of experience, could not handle the pressure and rarely ran well in major champs I am still with Mr Francis here
I think kishane did an amazing job and he should have been given gold this shit that they came out with the 1000 of a second is bullshit ,they both should have received gold with the same time lyles wasn't faster just a better dipper
Classic example of not knowing the rules. If you are a fan of track and field, you should understand and know the rules. Listen to what you said he should’ve been given. They don’t give you anything. You must earn it. Now, if you think he deserves a gold medal why don’t you get a medal and give it to him?
So did you exoect SF to tell the whole world (including KT) before the races, that because he lacked experience, he wasn't going to win? What exactly did you want SF's response to that question to be?
This video wasn't claiming that Kishane got robbed. Your comment belongs on another person's video and you're just gloating now that Noah got the gold by 5000th of a second. If that makes you happy more power to you.
@@Rayjack-m9o Do you know what "context" mean??? Have you ever heard the term "steal" or "stolen" used in reference to someone just barely and at that last minute getting victory when it seemed like the other person had the victory?? Do you realize that Kishane led for 99.99% of that race only to be out leaned in the final 1%. That's what he meant by "steal" - smh. ANYHOW.....the point of the video wasn't about something being "stolen". It was about Inside JA's opinion that Franno got it wrong. I dont share that opinion because I dont think that is what cost Kishane the race. Its easy to go back and look for excuses and the "experience" excuse is the low hanging fruit.
According to Stephen Francis, Kishane is prone to injuries, so he should race sparingly . That is nonsense. Treat his injuries and eliminate the cause of those injuries. Sitting at home watching others take your glory does nothing to improve your performance....Kishane's coach was wrong in not contesting the Photo-Finish. 5/1000 sec is too small a margin to lose a Gold Medal. They talked about "rounding up" the results to 2-digits, but this was never done, THEN the results would have read 9.78 (9.784) first place and 9.79 (9.789) second place. Kishane's team let him down, BIG TIME !!
So what did you expect Franno to say...."Yea...experience is going to affect Kishane and I dont think he can win".?? What is the point of the video??? That Franno got it wrong??? Franno had to take the stand of confidence in order to let his young athlete also believe. Would you have made the same video had Kishane won by 5000th of a second?? The answer is no. There is a thing called Monday Morning QB which is the same as "back seat driver". Everyone one of us are experts behind the keyboard.
Your reasoning is flawed my friend, so you think Kishane was in Paris watching interviews and UA-cam videos about what people are saying about him? This is a place for free speech and objectivity so if you can't handle that, you are free to watch other people who are afraid to call a spade a spade.
@@Inside_Ja The question was asked of Franno and he said what he said. YES of course Kishane might have seen video of what his coach said. His fellow athletes could have shown him or he could have seen it on his own. My reasoning is very sound!. Its your Monday morning QB reasoning I'm questioning. You should have made the video before the final for it to have some teeth.
@@Inside_Ja There are lot of foolish elders in the world. Lots of people with "experience" are as dumb as a door knob and many youngsters are wise beyond their years. So I'll question your "without a doubt" phrase.
While agree with not breaking a tradition because of displeased fans but the big picture is, is it a sound or sensible tradition? Here's where I have a problem with it, Noah Lyles is very hypocritical for calling out the NBA for the "World Champions" title while he's doing the very same thing in track and field.
@@johnl69 The truth is, you can't be considered the world's fastest by merit of winning the gold in the sprints when there are actually people who have gone way faster than you have in that given season. Make that sense. It's just like saying world champions when you didn't compete against the rest of the world. "World's Best" would maybe be a better title since you came on top at the highest level.
@@Inside_Ja THE TRUTH IS THAT STEPHEN ALWAYS ADMIT THAT HE HASN'T DONE TOO WELL WITH MALE SPRINTERS !!!! THIS WAS IN REFERENCE TO THE FACT THAT NEITHER ASAFA, MICHAEL FRATER,NESTER CARTER did not get any gold medal in competition whilst they trained with Stephen Francis !!!!*****Coach Francis always admits that he hasn't scored as big with the male sprinters as he's done with the ladies !!!!*****************THEREFORE STEPHEN FRANCIS KNOWS VERY WELL HIS WEAK POINTS and he never said that he was better than all the other coaches with everything !!!********THAT SAID, I DID NOT AGREE WITH HIM TELLING KISHANE TO only run the first 60 meters and NOT EXECUTE a full race AT THE JAMAICA NATIONAL SENIOR CHAMPIONSHIPS.BECAUSE THESE RACES AT THE NATIONAL SENIOR TRIALS WERE gonna be his only races in preparation for the olympics and he just needed to fully execute a race and run the last 40 meters and to fix any mistakes with his technique !!!*******NOTICE HOW KISHANE DID NOT RUN THE LAST 40 meters as well as Lyles,Kerley and Simbine at the Olympics in the field because technically they were all better than him at fully executing a race in a major championships finals
I am jamaican an this is one of the few logical videos i have seen on the internet. Good assessment of the race. All the rest are saying kishane got robbed etc an its not so if you have advanced knowldege of the rules of the sport you will see it was very close but noah won. Sometimes we as jamaicans are sore losers an only think with our emotions & not with logics. Bless up for this video!
My brother we just have to be honest about this call it what it is. Kishane will have a lot more chances to recover from this going forward. Thanks for the support.👊🏾
Kishane whole body was already over the line when Noah was pushing neck like turkey.
Technically he did get robbed because per the rules both should have been awarded the gold medal. See same thing happen again in the 200m, and the rule clearly states that the clock is to the hundredth not the thousandth of a second. So the first mistake cause the second mistake because now they cannot go back and apply the correct rule because then they would look like the idiots they are. But per my prior take Kishane needs to watch and worry about the finish line and stop worry about where other people are, that cost him same way it cost Shericka and Shelly at worlds,.
In the rules of the game both athlete should have received gold. A tiebreaker should only be used if it’s a semifinal and the last person is to be added to the final.
The head of JAAA had 1/2 hour after the race to appeal and didn’t. Do you remember Jamaica’s 1,2,2 , the same could have been applied.
@@stevebeckford9270 ok Mr track official
Brilliant Assessment!!….Experience always teaches wisdom!!
Experience matters but his coach would want him to be confident and not thinking about lack of experience.
As an unbiased american who knows what I’m talking about in this sport, I’ll try to help with my .02. Stephen Francis did not get Kishane “wrong”. All a coach can do is properly educate and prepare an athlete. Think about people like TaLou, Keni Harrison, etc., with their absolutely BRILLIANT coach John Smith, whom I totally think is one of the best coaches this planet has ever seen…definitely even more knowledgeable and experienced than Francis, but those athletes continue to flop in big meets! As a person who has run on all of these levels and coached this sport, I understand what I see, and what I see is that Francis poured his entire heart and soul into Kishane, he’s worked on Kishane’s injury situation, worked on his mind big time, taught him how to shut Lyles and all the noise out of his mind, etc. Coach Francis did a WONDERFUL job with Kishane…the problem is Kishane, himself.
Simply put, Kishane runs a style that could make him have injury easily. Also, Kishane is not use to how his body feels when he has REAL competition! A true test for Kishane would be to race Christian Coleman…neck to neck while Christian smokes him for most of the race…what will he do? Kishane is just like ShaCarri…although he fixed his start this year, he’s a runner who will catch you from way behind, or he will lead you and have full control, but the one thing Kishane does NOT know how to do, is run in his own lane and stay focused on his execution when he’s with someone who is stride for stride with him. Doesn’t matter how experienced a runner is…when we are in a rare and unique situation where someone is stride for stride with us, the ANSWER is to relax and focus on your execution, while remembering to: breathe properly, relax with shoulder down and arms up, keep those knees high and maintain form (very important), keep that body stiff, lean that torso at the line not just as much as possible but as STRATEGICALLY as possible (for instance, if your left/right shoulder can make it to the line before you can do it from the front, lean to one side or something…whatever gets any part of the torso to the line…get it there quickly), and moreover, do all of this while remembering to maintain the fastest frequency and the most loose legs possible. Kishane hasn’t yet learned how to do this, and the real reason Kishane lost this race is because of not Noah, but FRED…Fred got a lighting fast reaction, Kishane caught him quickly, but the two men faught hard to get rid of one another ally he way to the line, so his focus was only on Fred…not his execution, nothing.
Coach Francis did his part…now is time for Kishane to do his part. Trust me, we have seen this a million times from Marion Jones, Carmelita Jeter, definitely TaLou, etc. The best of the best make this same mistake…the key is to simply have a little more experience in this situation and knowing how to respond. Coach Francis prepared him on every single thing, and tried to prepare him for this also, but nothing matches actual experience doing it.
Thank you so much. Hope one of the members from Coach Francis' team will see this. Thanks again for such a good explanation. All these guys are so good. In fact, I admire runners, because I wish I could, but I don't love it. I can barely even walk one lap with praying and asking God to hold my hands. lol
@@stephfrancis7109 my pleasure, and thank you for the positive feedback! I feel like MVP is already aware of what I explained, but most of the fans do not. One thing about we who participate in this sport, is we are very honest about our imperfections. Most conversations are about what we can fix…not about someone’s feelings on constructive criticism. Even Elaine when she won with 10.61, Francis thought the race was well executed but she hesitated a little at the start. They fixed it, then 10.54! BAM…see what I mean? Francis is a brilliant man…I think he saw what I saw and more!
Excellent analysis of Kishane'S performance and why he didn't do better. Hope he sees this comment. It would benefit him and MVP tremendously.
@stevie586 I fully agree with everything you said. As a fan, I realized that Kishane got a bad start and I believe he rushed his drive phase just to catch Fred and as you said didn't stay in his own lane and was racing Fred instead of executing the race. This came from lack of experience to these situations. Last year on the circuit, Kishanr ran down Christian, Noah and others and almost catch them at the line and reduced his pb to around 10.85. All the races he had this year (except the Olympic final) he was ahead of the pack so he could have focus on his execution. But because of his bad start and trying to catch Fred which ended up that he rushed his phases, it lead to lost of focus in execution. A lot of people are staying because he didn't practice to run through the line, which I disagreed, he ran hard through the line but with poor execution because of the pressure of Fred and lack of experience to cope with this said pressure. He needs more runs on the circuit, since Franno can keep him healthy to deal with this pressure. Also I am delighted that Kishane realized this problem himself and is resolute in making sure it will not happen again.
Also, I like to refer to Kishane as Franno's baby. Franno typically picks an athlete and make them his pet and pour his heart out in them. This is what I observed from the outside looking in. He loves developing young athletes more than training established stars in the sport, which he stated in an interview. He develops and just maintain and move on to the next. That is what he did with Asafa, then Shelly, then Elaine now Kishane. One might say it lead to the breakdown of Shelly and Elaine's relationship and Shelly eventual exit.
@@sweetangelplus I absolutely love the things you’ve just stated. I have one, and only ONE disagreement with what you stated above. It’s not that Kishane had a bad start…Kishane actually had an excellent start, but Fred had an unusually fast reaction to the gun, which put him out front really fast, but Kishane caught and got beside him very fast because Kishane’s drive and acceleration were very good. Fred got out so well it makes others look bad, but the others were great also. But the rest of what you stated, 100%…EXCELLENT POST you just made and I’m in complete agreement with it all except for the start part!
From the beginning, yup, he rushed his drive phase because Fred startled him a bit and he wasn’t use to running against another legit 9.7 runner who could match his power! Franno prepared him for this, but he had to actually experience it in real life to know how it affects him, and now he does. I 100% saw Prefontaine last year where Kishane had a slow start but came on like a darn freight train…lawd…Kishane was coming on strong and ran those guys down big time…it is one of the reasons Kishane has been on my radar all year, despite me thinking Seville would best him; he actually looked tons like Noah in that race, to be honest. Remember he had a race early season but he pulled up, and when he had that race, we are all like, “wait, did you all see that insane start from Kishane”, and we speculated he could go 9.6 or 9.7 with that kind of start…we were on T’s page talking about that (TxT Tracktime), so when he ran that fast, I personally was like, “yup, I know what the heck I saw in him that day”! Then, those 9.8’s and 9.77 had me like, “oh $hit, we Americans are about to lose this one unless Fred comes through and runs one of his old times for the win, LOL”! His execution in all of those races, even the last 9.9, was wonderful and he was in his own element there. But in the final of Paris, he was not Kishane…he was the guy trying to get Fred off his back! Next, I completely agree with you…Kishane ran all the way to the line AND he leaned as hard as he could. Many do not understand when frontside mechanics are done properly, it is difficult to lean as hard as those with the old backside mechanics, but the good thing is the frontside mechanics mean the person hits the line faster also. Last, OMG, you hit the nail on the hit with him being Franno’s “baby”. Franno reminds me tons and tons of myself; I am an absolute perfectionist with an insatiable appetite for knowledge & wisdom, and I also have to share my knowledge and wisdom with as many people as possible, in hopes I can help those people bring out their best. Franno had Shelly, did amazingly with her, took what he learned and applied it to Elaine to make her even better, and is now doing it to his new athletes. I absolutely saw the video you’re referencing where he made a comment a while back that he doesn’t want Shelly, etc. back, because he needs to make way for all the young talent he wants to teach…great memory! Franno really enjoys taking what he has learned and creating huge stars, and I am the exact same way. It is incredibly refreshing to read a comment from someone who clearly pays attention and knows what they’re talking about…you’ve given me a huge smile!
I think Bolt made a lot of Jamaican and other athletes think that they can slow down once they are infront, Even Bolt could have ran better times if he push straight through the line, They need to cut that out because its not just about winning, but also to make good times, set strong records.
Your reasoning is sound. Kishane has the talent, and with more experience and figuring out how not to let anyone get into his head (plus assuming very little injuries), he will be unstoppable.
I'm right there with you on this one 🙌🏽 Watch out for Kishane.
Making him seem that he was the favorite going into the games was wrong even with Tia Clayton....she said it was different compared to being in the Jamaican Stadium....I agree in time they will both give the Americans and other countries some problems in the future....agree with you experience does matter over speed....
I agree with you. The Jamaican sprinters appear to be more focused on shutting it down in the heats than finishing strong in the finals. This has got to stop. Kishane and Oblique have it in them to be world beaters, but they can learn a lot from the likes of Tebogo when it comes to execution and temperament.
That’s a great point, nobody has ever challenged him to to lean, he alway jog though the finish now
For real man, he will now know what to do next time. If you listen to his interviews you'll see that he is analytic with his approach to sprinting so he will be back stronger.
@@Inside_Ja 1000% I feel like not having people close him usually cuz him yo tensed up when he felt Fred next to him
Thank you! I comment on a a few statements he made in that same interview and some people bun me out. Another thing, his body was so a custom to shut down before the finish line so that might have been a factor. Bless up Keshane and good content brother
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You have made so much sense in your analysis experience is the main factor
Francis needs to train his athletes to run a full race. They all have the same pattern. Shutting down at 60m in a 100m race is a no no. Especially with athletes like Noah Lyles
You Jamaicans are usually very hard-core fans. But you seem unbiased in your analysis of Kishane's narrow loss. I admire
your willingness to call out a national icon like Steve Francis. Your observation of Thompson's failure to lean at the finish
is spot on. You should seriously consider applying for a position as track commentator/analyst on Jamaican TV.
Franno knows experience is a factor but he also knows his athlete is injury prone and they only managed to find a solution in March and so he couldn't risk running him in competitions to get that experience at the expense of a possible injury before the Olympics. During that interview he had to downplay it to keep his athlete confident, if he we on to say experience matters, his athlete would have had that on his mind and it would have played to his disadvantage. I see nothing wrong with the actions Franno took or the comments concerning his athlete. That comment was to keep Kishane positive
Totally agree
That's a good point.
Best comment ever. No one seems to be concern with any of the things you identified. They focusing on he should have leaned more, or he don’t have enough experience. What about Kishane himself. What about how he feels physically and mentally. He’s running the races. He is not bolt or Shelly or Elaine or Asafa. He is Kishane and God has written a story specifically and specially for him. More races to come pray that he’s healthy.
TEAM jamaica packs up and leaves the olympics village after suffering many devastating losses. Team Jamaica leaves with one gold medal for discus.
They left because there was no air conditioning unit. France is very cheap
The great man Bolt did'nt know how to lean when he started out.
All the athletes need to run straight through the finish line instead of slowing down before reaching the finish line. They need to learn to lean into the finish line / or what we Jamaicans say dip.. If not we will definitely continue to fall short in track and field. A lot of lessons for the athletes to learn from this Olympic 2024
Experience is lessons learned from doing... So the training is what coach Francis was speaking to..as to what the athlete can or can't do. I don't believe KT actually lost that race and the view from left of track at line looking back to right I believe would shed more light on whose torso was at the line first and more importantly, who passed through the line first.... But prop shots to the post...given
Justin Gatlin said the same thing before the Olympics started saying it would come back to bite him as he was used to shutting down 30m out and never running through the line..... basic athletics taught from young!!
You can't teach experience better you say he should have been places in a few races prior to the Olympics with some of the faster challengers so he could feel pressure towards the end of the race. But again with is injury prone status...you could see how Frano didn't want to risk injuries.
Thank you for speaking the truth. Thompson lost the 100m by his inexperience, because remember Noah said that he studied his competitors
Usain Bolt AND Shelly Ann were first time young winners so speed wins ....i agree with Franno
Why not share the medals? Broadbell leaned for the 110m hurdles and got the same time for the Silver medal but was given Bronze. It seems the rules keep changing.
Since he Is the coach, shouldn't he tell Thompson to lean in at the end, well I think the coach let him down and he should own up to it.
experience was overstated. The issue with that race is the inordinate delay at the beginning. I have never seen a 100m or infact any sprint race took so long. Thats why he lost. listen to Asafa. Yess his inexperience played a part too. The organizers did that on purpose. why wasnt it done to any other race!? music at beginning of a 100m final is unheard of!
Stop with the excuses. There were 8 other sprinters that had to wait around the same way Kishane had to wait. This was not a conspiracy against Kishan Thompson. U sound ridiculous
@@greysaku only because you miss my point and never run track. same situation affects ppl differently. thats why there are sports psycologist. No one is saying that the 8 competitors werent subjected to the same conditions. we are saying KT was most likely to have had a negative effect due to his eagerness to run and this being his first major international outing. which a sensible educated person with critical thinking skills will see as no excuse just fact!!
@@rdd4944the athletes will have to fight through difficultly no matter what it is and that’s what separates them
@@surreal_feelins this is a fact of life. so u must give urself every advantage
I been telling my friends this too and they were all telling me i am wrong.
Depends on the person. There have been many winners of big sprint finals in their first global or international championship
Yes I agree but still experience is important.
He said that in the video bro. There are a few exceptions to the rule but generally it does.
@Inside_Ja how would it benefit Franno's athlete for him to decry Kishane's lack of experience pre race? Franno is the same one that said Shericka wasn't experienced at 200m, and she made an error and dropped out in the heats of the 200m. Franno learned from that and now we're still beating him. Nuance and context matters.
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Agreed, only a technical error. Must be corrected by next year.
It will, trust me.
I agree with you experience matters.
Very analytical accuracy in this assessment.
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You nailed it!!!!!! 🙌🏾💯
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yeah you're spot on but a lot of what no-one is talking about is why on God's green earth you are so busy looking where another athlete is before the race is done. This is a bad habit and he was so busy looking at Kerley and looking for Noah he did not concentrate on getting to the finish line, that is why he tied up because he couldnt see them he was seeing Kerley and panicked. He needs to stop looking for people and look ahead. Look at Tebogo, he was daylight ahead of the field but did you see him looking for Noah, he was looking for the line. That is the habit he needs to break, After you cross the line then you can worry about other people all you want. He young but stop making age an excuse he is 23 years old not a child. Leave that to Quincy Wilson the 16 year old.
Shelly ann did went to the 2007 world championship she ran in the 4x100m
Experience teacheth wisdom
That's how it usually goes.
Well said....
Experience?? Kishane lost to the fastest current 100m runner by 5/1000. yes FIVE ONE THOUSANDTH of a second-.
My calculations they averaged 1022 cm/sec- or 1.022cm per 1/1000sec so 5/1000sec is 5 cm-
Kishane lost by 5 cm-JUST 2 INCHES!!- not even a BLINK
Sometimes -most times-you just get beaten by a better guy-better on that day.
Stephen Francis was right-it was not the pressure-Kishane ran like HELL- Noah just ran a but quicker.
Kishane has too much upper body weight to haul around-big biceps deltoids-broad shoulders-have to be accelerated-and pushed through the air-they wear you out.
U BOLT-that big-was the exception-look at the women-Shelly-ShaCarri-not BIG people-Noah same story
Kishane needs to find a way to lose that excess mass-and frontal area-legs lower torso-propel you-not HUGE arms shoulders chest
experience plays a big part u are so right Frano did got that wrong
Exactly bro as I said he was outfoxed by an experience Noah
Kishane knows how to dip check last year.....he didnt see Noah or eles he wudda lean...Noah arrived at The last moment possible
MR Francis is right. It is about speed. He did it with Shellyann and Elaine they had no experience when shelly win at Olympic
Name which of those two women ever consistently shutdown in ALL races during a season leading up to an OLYMPIC FINAL⁉😐
Kissane have him ticket
I think so too but only time will tell.
What experience Seville brings
Seville still doesn't race a lot, he turns up for the qualifier and and the championships and that's it for him. He still could do better with the experience of racing a lot more. Other than that he has a mental blockage problem.
I said the same in another post. Glen Mills's handling of Oblique has been really strange over the last 2-3 years. He has not competed on the Diamond league circuit in more than 2 races in all of that time. It's a joke. He only competes at Racers Grand Prix. How's this guys supposed to learn how to overcome different conditions and competition in time to prep for Championships?
@@delta_tango_dtthat’s my exact point 👍
My sentiments as well❤
🙌🏽💯 makes a lot of sense.
If I'm right didn't he say that kishane is like powell and he'always freeze in the finish at The Big Race and you know who is like that also talu don't mean anything bad love them no matter what❤❤
What happen to Mr Francis he was trying to hide Thompson speed at trials. We know what happend. He wanted to surprise the field at Olympic and blow them away.
I wondering why he’s so upright
I have never heard experience win faster quicker tell the story
Well now I'm telling you that experience can make you go faster or quicker, however you want to phrase. Experience can make you hold your nerves better and that can determine whether or not you win or lose.
Experience has nothing to do it
Lol you expected him to say that he was gonna choke because he doesn't have experience? C'mon son. He said the right thing and he's actually correct. You don't want to add to the nerves. His coach has to give him confidence by telling him he can do it. Nerves are a part of it of course... Don't believe the bravado of even Noah Lyles.. He was definitely nervous for that 100. He almost ran his pb in the final. Sure he could have done better. We all know that but he did great. Also lots of athletes do great the first time out... Just sayin
Everybody knows experience matters in every discipline of life, but what exactly did you want SF to say in reaponse to that question? "Oh KT is talented but I believe his lack of experience is going to cost him an Olympic gold medal". What video would you have recorded and uploaded if SF had said that?
All that pull his coach have doing that what cause him to lose the race
So 7 athletes had more experience than him. Why experience didn't work for them 😂
You realize how lacking your comment sounds? It was the fastest that won either. Kerley and Kishane are faster than Noah. Common sense will tell even a novice that speed must be a very big factor in all of this in spite of experience smh. Come on man, I didn't think I had to explain this simple logic.
@@Inside_Ja you should be smiling at that comment. But its true though right, clearly experience didn't help the others
Kishane, he ran 9.79 and lost by 5000th, this is a small margin, this is
weak sauce. Kishane handled the pressure well since he ran very close to seasons best 9.77!. Experience doesn't make you faster
Remember Asafa Powell, lots of experience, could not handle the pressure and rarely ran well in major champs
I am still with Mr Francis here
I think kishane did an amazing job and he should have been given gold this shit that they came out with the 1000 of a second is bullshit ,they both should have received gold with the same time lyles wasn't faster just a better dipper
Classic example of not knowing the rules. If you are a fan of track and field, you should understand and know the rules. Listen to what you said he should’ve been given. They don’t give you anything. You must earn it. Now, if you think he deserves a gold medal why don’t you get a medal and give it to him?
Shut up quit acting like you getting paid from this shit
What did the rules state@Surveil101
So did you exoect SF to tell the whole world (including KT) before the races, that because he lacked experience, he wasn't going to win? What exactly did you want SF's response to that question to be?
How is Kishane two down to Noah?
Nike Prefontaine Classic last year and the Olympic 100m final.
No one stole anything Thompson Lost !
This video wasn't claiming that Kishane got robbed. Your comment belongs on another person's video and you're just gloating now that Noah got the gold by 5000th of a second. If that makes you happy more power to you.
@@Objectivity-w5j the word stole was used !
@@Rayjack-m9o Do you know what "context" mean??? Have you ever heard the term "steal" or "stolen" used in reference to someone just barely and at that last minute getting victory when it seemed like the other person had the victory?? Do you realize that Kishane led for 99.99% of that race only to be out leaned in the final 1%. That's what he meant by "steal" - smh. ANYHOW.....the point of the video wasn't about something being "stolen". It was about Inside JA's opinion that Franno got it wrong. I dont share that opinion because I dont think that is what cost Kishane the race. Its easy to go back and look for excuses and the "experience" excuse is the low hanging fruit.
According to Stephen Francis, Kishane is prone to injuries, so he should race sparingly . That is nonsense. Treat his injuries and eliminate the cause of those injuries. Sitting at home watching others take your glory does nothing to improve your performance....Kishane's coach was wrong in not contesting the Photo-Finish. 5/1000 sec is too small a margin to lose a Gold Medal. They talked about "rounding up" the results to 2-digits, but this was never done, THEN the results would have read 9.78 (9.784) first place and 9.79 (9.789) second place. Kishane's team let him down, BIG TIME !!
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Rubbish yuh a talk
Mr carter
Blessings fam, hope you're doing well.
So what did you expect Franno to say...."Yea...experience is going to affect Kishane and I dont think he can win".?? What is the point of the video??? That Franno got it wrong??? Franno had to take the stand of confidence in order to let his young athlete also believe. Would you have made the same video had Kishane won by 5000th of a second?? The answer is no. There is a thing called Monday Morning QB which is the same as "back seat driver". Everyone one of us are experts behind the keyboard.
Your reasoning is flawed my friend, so you think Kishane was in Paris watching interviews and UA-cam videos about what people are saying about him? This is a place for free speech and objectivity so if you can't handle that, you are free to watch other people who are afraid to call a spade a spade.
@@Inside_Ja The question was asked of Franno and he said what he said. YES of course Kishane might have seen video of what his coach said. His fellow athletes could have shown him or he could have seen it on his own. My reasoning is very sound!. Its your Monday morning QB reasoning I'm questioning. You should have made the video before the final for it to have some teeth.
Without a doubt experience teaches wisdom. Peace
@@Inside_Ja There are lot of foolish elders in the world. Lots of people with "experience" are as dumb as a door knob and many youngsters are wise beyond their years. So I'll question your "without a doubt" phrase.
Noah Lyles, fastest man in the world!! 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
Yes that title is flawed.
@Inside_Ja Nah, it's a tradition, we shouldn't break it just because one country's fans gets upset by it!!! Usa 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
While agree with not breaking a tradition because of displeased fans but the big picture is, is it a sound or sensible tradition? Here's where I have a problem with it, Noah Lyles is very hypocritical for calling out the NBA for the "World Champions" title while he's doing the very same thing in track and field.
@@Inside_Ja,how is it even remotely the same??
@@johnl69 The truth is, you can't be considered the world's fastest by merit of winning the gold in the sprints when there are actually people who have gone way faster than you have in that given season. Make that sense. It's just like saying world champions when you didn't compete against the rest of the world. "World's Best" would maybe be a better title since you came on top at the highest level.
Stephen Francis is loosing his dignity.
Not really.
@@Inside_Ja THE TRUTH IS THAT STEPHEN ALWAYS ADMIT THAT HE HASN'T DONE TOO WELL WITH MALE SPRINTERS !!!! THIS WAS IN REFERENCE TO THE FACT THAT NEITHER ASAFA, MICHAEL FRATER,NESTER CARTER did not get any gold medal in competition whilst they trained with Stephen Francis !!!!*****Coach Francis always admits that he hasn't scored as big with the male sprinters as he's done with the ladies !!!!*****************THEREFORE STEPHEN FRANCIS KNOWS VERY WELL HIS WEAK POINTS and he never said that he was better than all the other coaches with everything !!!********THAT SAID, I DID NOT AGREE WITH HIM TELLING KISHANE TO only run the first 60 meters and NOT EXECUTE a full race AT THE JAMAICA NATIONAL SENIOR CHAMPIONSHIPS.BECAUSE THESE RACES AT THE NATIONAL SENIOR TRIALS WERE gonna be his only races in preparation for the olympics and he just needed to fully execute a race and run the last 40 meters and to fix any mistakes with his technique !!!*******NOTICE HOW KISHANE DID NOT RUN THE LAST 40 meters as well as Lyles,Kerley and Simbine at the Olympics in the field because technically they were all better than him at fully executing a race in a major championships finals
Shut up
Are you forgetting that Kishane ran the fastest time??
Is gifton
Big up
Stop call stephen Francis nama
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Did not steal the race the race was won fair and square
I didn't say anyone stole the race👀
@@Inside_Ja You did say it BUT they're taking what you said out of context.
@@Objectivity-w5j yea not in the context that this person means.