@@platinumorthodontics8023 , @davidg3188, @maeu59, The bonding wire originates in the pool panel at the ground bar/bus. The bonding wire also connects to all metal within 5ft of the pool edge horizontally or 12ft overhead. This means the lanai, ladders, handrails, metal gutters and even metal window or doors within that 5ft range and LAST and most importantly, it connects to the pool light housing. .
@@handyvetinspections5497great, but how can we determine if that grounding cable is intact? What if for some reason it broke somewhere down the line, is there a way to check this? Thanks.
Do the intex above ground pools need to be grounded since they are plastic and are to be taken down after the summer season and also do the intex pumps need to be bonded?
Great! What if copper wire is attached to the pump indicating that it is bonded- but how can we check if it’s actually grounded properly…what if the copper wire is broken, say 6 ft away from the pump? Is there a way to check if it is properly grounded as it should be per code?
Gah! My professional installer didn't connect this last time. It's just sitting under the motor. Getting ready to swap that motor out on my own. Thanks for this. Wouldn't have known what this was.
I have a bonding question- I’m in Haiti and I’ve had a above ground pool for 5 years And i never bonded it . Right now I’m switching my 1 1/2 pump wiring to a gfci breaker panel 100 feet away. Ill be using 2 #10 awg to a 50 amp square d sub panel , and i was trying to figure out how to bond it. We dont have any electric Code to go by here .
I have a ingd pool and have about 4volts on the coupling. if you shut off pwr at the pole we still get 4volts and it will dissipate after some time any fixes for this??
TAZ can you please help by elaborating on that. It’s so difficult to get a good clear answer, soft sided pools even with the upgraded sand filters have double insulated pumps WITH NO BONDING SCREWS/Lugs. So how do we bond the equipment to the metal frame supports/ladders/etc? In my case I have the Bestway Sand Filter Pump PLUS a Salt Water Generator (Intex) and would LOVE NOTHING MORE than finding a way to bond these and the pool water n metal frame etc. Just have no clue what to do. Even though they’re considered a “temporary” pool and “up to 42 inches” of water doesn’t need bonding, I have the 52” larger pool and regardless want the extra safety! They say to unplug when swimming, but that defeats so many things, like cleaning or even a fountain for the kids using the pump. Any help would be tremendous!
@@gedionsamuel2256 Hi, Please go to the link below. They have great information and are experts at all things related to swimming pools of all sizes. I hope this helps. www.troublefreepool.com/whats-new/
@@gedionsamuel2256 There is a lot of confusion out regarding this issue. It is not that expensive to bond your pool. You can actually do it yourself. Check with a large pool store and see what everyone else is doing.
Awesome knowledge. I have a question I’m doing a build by owner pool and the electrician told me they were gonna put a rod on the ground close to the equipment with a sub panel. Is that what connects to the bonding screw? Thanks
No. Totally different things. The rod is for the subpanel to ground and thus for the GFCI outlet dedicated to the pool to also ground. I’m assuming the subpanel is requiring a rod because it is on a separate building from the main panel!?! Either way, it’s a good bonus, but has nothing to do with bonding! I’m learning too, but the bonding is to tie all of the equipment running power to the pool and anything attached to the pool such as metal supports, ladders, lights etc to be tied in all together! This creates a uniform neutrality and no potential so that there is no danger of deadly electric shock!
I have a bonding question... I have a fiberglass pool with a salt system. I have a bonding wire that is connected to the water return pipe that is installed before the pump. I was told that it should have been installed after the salt cell. Is this true? Does it make a difference? If bonding is not done properly can it cause discoloring in the fiberglass? Thank you.
Mine is after the cell, but more importantly it needs to be below the water line so if the pump loses prime it still is in contact with water. Also read the manual for the sacrificial zinc/bond fitting that they installed to make sure it was installed correctly. Regarding your question the manual for the salt cell and bond fitting is the only thing you should trust.
ok so if i have a canvas style intex or summer waves pool the pump that comes with it doesnt sit on the ground so i put the bonding plate in the basket to touch the water and connected my 4 points on my post but where do i run the ground wire too at that point bc theres no separate motor with a nut on the ground like in this case
I think this I just a grounding for a faulty pump. BUT in my believe it doesn't protect as a gfci for the whole pool system, it works different and reacts different
@@gedionsamuel2256 pretty much the same in my believe. Bonding is to keep the potential the same, different charges can't occur, and then we ground it to dissipate any equal charge if present. However, throughout the whole install there will be usually enough ground involved, earth ground, pipes and so on
God bless you sir,, watched tens of videos that don't show this and now after you I can connect my wire with ease. Thanks so much
Hey Mr. bonding man, Where does the other end of the wire connect too?
This video is pointless without showing where the other end connects to.
Agreed… so where???
@@platinumorthodontics8023 , @davidg3188, @maeu59, The bonding wire originates in the pool panel at the ground bar/bus. The bonding wire also connects to all metal within 5ft of the pool edge horizontally or 12ft overhead. This means the lanai, ladders, handrails, metal gutters and even metal window or doors within that 5ft range and LAST and most importantly, it connects to the pool light housing. .
@@handyvetinspections5497great, but how can we determine if that grounding cable is intact? What if for some reason it broke somewhere down the line, is there a way to check this? Thanks.
Good inspection, thanks for sharing.
Do the intex above ground pools need to be grounded since they are plastic and are to be taken down after the summer season and also do the intex pumps need to be bonded?
Great! What if copper wire is attached to the pump indicating that it is bonded- but how can we check if it’s actually grounded properly…what if the copper wire is broken, say 6 ft away from the pump? Is there a way to check if it is properly grounded as it should be per code?
Gah! My professional installer didn't connect this last time. It's just sitting under the motor. Getting ready to swap that motor out on my own. Thanks for this. Wouldn't have known what this was.
Just another tech who freestyles in the field, they tuck in under the motor same as sweeping something under a rug.
I have a bonding question- I’m in Haiti and I’ve had a above ground pool for 5 years And i never bonded it . Right now I’m switching my 1 1/2 pump wiring to a gfci breaker panel 100 feet away. Ill be using 2 #10 awg to a 50 amp square d sub panel , and i was trying to figure out how to bond it. We dont have any electric Code to go by here .
Do I have to bond a wood pool made with nils and wood
I have a ingd pool and have about 4volts on the coupling. if you shut off pwr at the pole we still get 4volts and it will dissipate after some time any fixes for this??
Is bonding required for a soft sided above ground “ walmart” pool? Thanks
Maybe I can answer that. Yes, if you have a pump, or any source of electricity going to the pool.
TAZ can you please help by elaborating on that. It’s so difficult to get a good clear answer, soft sided pools even with the upgraded sand filters have double insulated pumps WITH NO BONDING SCREWS/Lugs. So how do we bond the equipment to the metal frame supports/ladders/etc? In my case I have the Bestway Sand Filter Pump PLUS a Salt Water Generator (Intex) and would LOVE NOTHING MORE than finding a way to bond these and the pool water n metal frame etc. Just have no clue what to do. Even though they’re considered a “temporary” pool and “up to 42 inches” of water doesn’t need bonding, I have the 52” larger pool and regardless want the extra safety! They say to unplug when swimming, but that defeats so many things, like cleaning or even a fountain for the kids using the pump. Any help would be tremendous!
@@gedionsamuel2256 Hi,
Please go to the link below. They have great information and are experts at all things related to swimming pools of all sizes. I hope this helps. www.troublefreepool.com/whats-new/
@@gedionsamuel2256 There is a lot of confusion out regarding this issue. It is not that expensive to bond your pool. You can actually do it yourself. Check with a large pool store and see what everyone else is doing.
Good info buddy. I also use that site👍
Awesome knowledge. I have a question I’m doing a build by owner pool and the electrician told me they were gonna put a rod on the ground close to the equipment with a sub panel. Is that what connects to the bonding screw? Thanks
No. Totally different things. The rod is for the subpanel to ground and thus for the GFCI outlet dedicated to the pool to also ground. I’m assuming the subpanel is requiring a rod because it is on a separate building from the main panel!?! Either way, it’s a good bonus, but has nothing to do with bonding! I’m learning too, but the bonding is to tie all of the equipment running power to the pool and anything attached to the pool such as metal supports, ladders, lights etc to be tied in all together! This creates a uniform neutrality and no potential so that there is no danger of deadly electric shock!
I have a bonding question... I have a fiberglass pool with a salt system. I have a bonding wire that is connected to the water return pipe that is installed before the pump. I was told that it should have been installed after the salt cell. Is this true? Does it make a difference? If bonding is not done properly can it cause discoloring in the fiberglass? Thank you.
Mine is after the cell, but more importantly it needs to be below the water line so if the pump loses prime it still is in contact with water. Also read the manual for the sacrificial zinc/bond fitting that they installed to make sure it was installed correctly. Regarding your question the manual for the salt cell and bond fitting is the only thing you should trust.
ok so if i have a canvas style intex or summer waves pool the pump that comes with it doesnt sit on the ground so i put the bonding plate in the basket to touch the water and connected my 4 points on my post but where do i run the ground wire too at that point bc theres no separate motor with a nut on the ground like in this case
I think this I just a grounding for a faulty pump. BUT in my believe it doesn't protect as a gfci for the whole pool system, it works different and reacts different
Yeah there’s a huge difference between grounding and bonding. This is the latter!
@@gedionsamuel2256 pretty much the same in my believe. Bonding is to keep the potential the same, different charges can't occur, and then we ground it to dissipate any equal charge if present. However, throughout the whole install there will be usually enough ground involved, earth ground, pipes and so on