We have had an above ground pool for about 12 years. Pump is grounded but only in the past few weeks have I heard of bonding a pool. I talked to dozens of pool owners and none have a bonded pool and only a few even knew what I was talking about. I caught a some electricians in the grocery store parking lot and of the 4 different electricians that I asked, only one had ever bonded a pool. The one who had done it said it probably is not necessary but it is required by code. He said that this is kind of a new thing for our area.
At 1:18 you show the PVC tee with copper lug. Is this something that came with the pool, or did you buy it and install? If you did purchase, can I ask where you got it and what its called? Thanks for this video. Getting ready to install our 24' round pool in a week or so.
That's a Sacrificial Anode and is not used as a water bonder. It is used mainly in salt water pools to help alleviate the effects of Galvanic corrosion due to salt in the water and electrolysis. It should be tied into all other bonded components and grounded with an 8ft copper ground rod near the pool.
If you truly knew what you were saying, then you'd know that "equippotential bonding" also means simply "grounding". Equipotential bonding or simply bonding is a technique for minimizing the danger of equipment damage and personal injury. It entails connecting all metals and conductive goods to an earthing system (also known as a grounding system) so all of them have the same potential energy (voltage). Duh.
From inside the pool drill a 1/4” hole lining up exactly at the center of the support ribs. Then just buy a 4” bolt and it completely cuts out having to fish a bolt. Super easy
The reason all this bullshit over regulation in pools exist now, because of a case in California. In that case, the hand rails on the diving platform weren't bonded, there was no requirement that they had to be at that time. What happened was some utility vehicle with a crane came in contact with some high tension over head wires. The truck despite having huge rubber tires that acted as insulators, caused a high build up of static electricity in the ground near a public swimming pool. Somebody on a diving platform was holding on to rails on both sides was temporarily mildly paralyzed by the static electricity, that they couldn't let go of the rails. Once the crane nearby broke contact with the power line, everything returned to normal. Nobody was killed or even mildly injured, but it pointed out a potential(excuse the pun)to cash in on safety issue.
Because you are bonding the dirt to your pool and the water... so everything within reach of the water is bonded together.... keeps you from getting shocked because all the water and ground are tied together with a bare wire, ... it has nothing to do with grounding.
What plumbing parts did you use for connecting the perma cast? 1 1/2 " T, reducer, what are you using to connect to skimmer and pump? trap reducer? Pvc or cpvc?
Because it isn't grounding and has nothing to do with grounding... its eqipotential bonding so you can't say touch the water, and the ground and get shocked because they are at different voltages.
@@Wingnut353 Equipotential bonding or simply bonding is a technique for minimising the danger of equipment damage and personal injury. It entails connecting all metals and conductive goods to an earthing system (also known as a grounding system) so all of them have the same potential energy (voltage).
" I failed the inspection so here's a video on how to do it right." Where are all the licensed professionals and those who have studied and mastered a craft making videos??? They dont seem to be on UA-cam. I see ore videos startug with "this is the first time Ive done this so here's how to do it" than professional masters of craft. Tired of wasting my time on YT searching through videos like this to find professional advice. Just sayin'
What state do you live in? I've seen bonding but an entirely different way. It didn't come out 18" from the pool. It said to dig 6" down and go around the entire pool making sure to connect several of the metal uprights (that depending on the size of your pool). I was just wondering if the requirements were different by each States requirement. Also, I love what you did at the skimmer for the grounding. I've seen the bonding plate that goes inside that the skimmer, but this method looks a whole lot better and doesn't put a hole in the skimmer. Where did you buy yours. Thank you so much for sharing!
I always love these videos non electricians telling you how to do stuff 😭🤣
Many times it's better than paying overpriced electricians to do the work. After all, they learned the same way we do....UA-cam. Hahahaha!
We have had an above ground pool for about 12 years. Pump is grounded but only in the past few weeks have I heard of bonding a pool. I talked to dozens of pool owners and none have a bonded pool and only a few even knew what I was talking about. I caught a some electricians in the grocery store parking lot and of the 4 different electricians that I asked, only one had ever bonded a pool. The one who had done it said it probably is not necessary but it is required by code. He said that this is kind of a new thing for our area.
100% necessary
At 1:18 you show the PVC tee with copper lug. Is this something that came with the pool, or did you buy it and install? If you did purchase, can I ask where you got it and what its called? Thanks for this video. Getting ready to install our 24' round pool in a week or so.
Pool Bonder?
Pool Bonder?
Sorry for the 3 year delay in my response. I bought it at Home Depot. Or look on their website.
That's a Sacrificial Anode and is not used as a water bonder. It is used mainly in salt water pools to help alleviate the effects of Galvanic corrosion due to salt in the water and electrolysis. It should be tied into all other bonded components and grounded with an 8ft copper ground rod near the pool.
Water bonding device purchased from pool store
its not grounding its equippotential bonding
If you truly knew what you were saying, then you'd know that "equippotential bonding" also means simply "grounding". Equipotential bonding or simply bonding is a technique for minimizing the danger of equipment damage and personal injury. It entails connecting all metals and conductive goods to an earthing system (also known as a grounding system) so all of them have the same potential energy (voltage). Duh.
How did you fish the bolt down to the inside of the steel post?
Coat hanger and electrical tape!
Drill an access hole from the side.
From inside the pool drill a 1/4” hole lining up exactly at the center of the support ribs. Then just buy a 4” bolt and it completely cuts out having to fish a bolt. Super easy
@@armandtanzarian9188 Make more holes in your pool supports.
Smart lol
Also, what size is your pool?
Did you say the pool is on your septic tank?
Septic Tank Collapsed I removed the top and bottom and filled with sand
Do you like this pool? Thinking of buying one. Thank you for the video.
Yes Sharkline I was told makes the best pools
How do you bond unground pool?
You dont need to bond an underground pool.
Yes you do, if there are any hand rails or climb out ladders, they must be bonded to the steel reinforcing rebar in the gunite.
The reason all this bullshit over regulation in pools exist now, because of a case in California. In that case, the hand rails on the diving platform weren't bonded, there was no requirement that they had to be at that time. What happened was some utility vehicle with a crane came in contact with some high tension over head wires. The truck despite having huge rubber tires that acted as insulators, caused a high build up of static electricity in the ground near a public swimming pool. Somebody on a diving platform was holding on to rails on both sides was temporarily mildly paralyzed by the static electricity, that they couldn't let go of the rails. Once the crane nearby broke contact with the power line, everything returned to normal. Nobody was killed or even mildly injured, but it pointed out a potential(excuse the pun)to cash in on safety issue.
I'm not sure why you have to dig a bond since its not a ground
Because you are bonding the dirt to your pool and the water... so everything within reach of the water is bonded together.... keeps you from getting shocked because all the water and ground are tied together with a bare wire, ... it has nothing to do with grounding.
@@Wingnut353 it's the same thing, moron. Bonding is sending things to ground. The ground ring around the pool is also for lightning.
What plumbing parts did you use for connecting the perma cast? 1 1/2 " T, reducer, what are you using to connect to skimmer and pump? trap reducer? Pvc or cpvc?
I plumbed my pump in last year and used 1.5" Sched 40 PVC. I have a 2hp pump and its about 15 ft away, been good so far..
it's called a split bolt. why didn't you just drill and tap the posts with a threaded stainless steel screw?
not allowed in old bridge
Not allowed
No grounding rod
Because it isn't grounding and has nothing to do with grounding... its eqipotential bonding so you can't say touch the water, and the ground and get shocked because they are at different voltages.
@@Wingnut353 Equipotential bonding or simply bonding is a technique for minimising the danger of equipment damage and personal injury. It entails connecting all metals and conductive goods to an earthing system (also known as a grounding system) so all of them have the same potential energy (voltage).
@@Wingnut353Does it have to be a closed loop or can I start at the pump, hit 4 posts, then end at the skimmer?
Twelve inches away and six inches deep, but who's counting.
18-24 and 4-6 actually it’s in the nec
@@nickraffone1598 he is talking about the bonding conductor, not the conduit for the circuit.
@@jayhaines1792 i know this dude my statement still stays.
@@nickraffone1598 too bad your reply doesn't change the fact that Armand is correct.
@@jayhaines1792 680.2(B)(2) 4 and 5
Looks like a #2 ground ? Little over kill. # 6 is all that’s required. No wonder it was so much work.
#8 is all that's required , Art 680 NEC
Just get to the point.
" I failed the inspection so here's a video on how to do it right." Where are all the licensed professionals and those who have studied and mastered a craft making videos??? They dont seem to be on UA-cam. I see ore videos startug with "this is the first time Ive done this so here's how to do it" than professional masters of craft. Tired of wasting my time on YT searching through videos like this to find professional advice. Just sayin'
I failed because I used the wrong lugs. You need direct burial lugs which I got and passed.
They are too busy working.
What state do you live in? I've seen bonding but an entirely different way. It didn't come out 18" from the pool. It said to dig 6" down and go around the entire pool making sure to connect several of the metal uprights (that depending on the size of your pool). I was just wondering if the requirements were different by each States requirement. Also, I love what you did at the skimmer for the grounding. I've seen the bonding plate that goes inside that the skimmer, but this method looks a whole lot better and doesn't put a hole in the skimmer. Where did you buy yours. Thank you so much for sharing!
By law we cannot do videos if you kill someone doing call licensing electrician they help you sr
@@LuisGomez-le4vk There is no law against it... but it puts you at liability.
Not. Too great of an. Educational. Video👎
Not too great at proper grammar, either. (This means you).