How are these farmers supposed to help the workers of Mozambique? By giving them work? By just giving money to them as if they are millionaires.? Shouldn't the farmers first be given the time to settle.? The farmers need help themselves! This is the old story, if the farmers can't make enough money to support themselves and to develop their farms, how can they start off by giving money to the workers? This sounds like the same idea as that of the workers in SA. They seem to want land that they never bought. Sounds like another dangerous and very risky situation!
@Martin Boshoff....for two years No one answered ur Question... ....If you want to Farm in Mozambique , SA or Congo etc...you have to stop being a Slave Overseer and a expunge ur Colonial mind set... ...Its a privilege for you to Farm anywhere in Africa...under the Sun amongst Blacks.....its NOT ...a Favor to Black Africa. You have to pay Fair Wage for Work done .... Failure to which u will Never know Industrial Peace...but Strife & Murders..." Pichfolks...! Btw you can Always Go to Europe, Ukraine, Belarus and other Former Soviet Republics, Canada, the USA or even South America.(Argentina.. Paraguay).. No one compels you to Stay in Africa....u are free to Leave..
@@williamkamau1167 i can't believe you had the energy to reply to his nonsense. This person talka about working without pay, that's slavery. Let's not give such energies attention. Those left SA after apartheid left because they know what they've done
Yes the blacks who live in the huts today will be demanding their rights and the money and land stolen from them. These farmers need to come to the US or Australia, New Zealand.......Africa is being destroyed by the majority who don't know where the blame really lies.
@Facts not Feelings they were fine before u Neanderthals came plenty of food free at peace ur people set them back hundreds of years they had to depend on their oppressors for survival thats why they had problems farming they couldn't get to deal with outside resources and trades yall had it cut off
@Facts not Feelings They survived before your coming so what is your point? If they had all died, there would have been no one for you to treat badly. They survived and yours folks met them so what the f are talking about. They will NOT do well without you? As if they needed you before you went there.
it's not the first experiment of it's kind, the same society collapse happened in Congo in the 60's and 70's, when the Belgian elite suddenly had to turn over all the government jobs and high responsibility jobs to Black Congolese people with harldy any education... Result was a total collapse of infrastructure, hospitals, government, economy... it has nothing to do with skin color or racism, it's just that any population needs about 40 years to build an educated middle class that's able to rule a complex country...
@@SimpleLifeAlways81 it's not just racism, it's about general socialism versus capitalism ... People that have wealth/land want to preserve it at all cost, and people without land/wealth want to take it... It's just human nature, all over the world... The 'race' card is used by both sides at their own convenience...
We are very glad and proud to welcome you guys, but we won't accept rascim and apartheid here in Mozambique, we cannot accept more Portuguese style, so if we can work together as human beings, not representation with colour out skin, that okay.
They new leaders are Black, and Bill Clinton allowed the murders of White farmers to happen. The land was divided between the relatives of the new politicians who knew nothing about farming or how to operate equipment. S.Africa used to be the bread basket of Africa. When a farm was being attacked, there were strike teams to call, but the police made strike teams illegal and took the side of the attackers.
@@rebekahroyal2679right, let your people be rolled over by white nationalists and have them keep you in poverty like they did 2 decades ago, lmao you may not like the answer but the observation is true.
Why is it allways the blacks needing help? Help for what? If you give them a house with all the amenities they use the bathtub to build a fire, if you give them machinery it end up broken and neglected, give them food and they start a war over it and so forth. It's the same story here in Argentina, give give give, and they never give nothing in return. Paternalistic policies only aggravate the situation.
You are speaking from a point of total ignorance. I would like to know whether you have any knowledge of pre-European invasion Africa...You would not even vomit your garbage, if you did know the true African history-- not the fabricated one by Europeans which taught in schools the world over....
You don't even know what you are talking about. I wouldn't spend a minute arguing with an idiot like you as you would win the argument anyways given the experience you have at being an ignorant idiot.
The only thing to be gained from the influx of the white farmers is the technilogy associated with mechanized farming. Africans traditionally practice subsistance farming and are not usually involved in large scale commercial farming.
No, no, no ... It is YOU who doesn't want to admit the true history of the DIFFERENT ethnic groups and their development in Africa. I can teach you, if you like to. And then you could verify all the historical facts that political correct influence scholars of today are not allow to say. History is not the way we want , but the way it was and it is.
@@JacobafJelling You should visit North America or Western Europe someday, just to see what has been done to humanity AND the land, at the hands of White people. You will FINALLY receive that education that you so clearly lack.
@@JacobafJelling It was already shit for 80% of the country, the blacks have only spread that to include another 10% of the country. Equality is spreading, maybe they should forget that racism stuff and work to uplift ALL of South Africa.
LordBane Well. I’m from Northern Europe, so I know Well of what happened. But even the worst places here are less violent. Also not all Europeans are White
@@JacobafJelling "so I know Well of what happened.....So does the rest of the world. "But even the worst places here are less violent."...tell THAT to all the victims of rape, murder and bombings in Europe. No doubt they would vehemently disagree with you. "Also not all Europeans are White"....they were until they decided to leave their decaying homeland and colonize the entire planet, looting the treasuries of their subjugated victims. It is not taught in "history books" but Europeans hunted animal species not only to scarcity, but extinction. It was only the discovery of the "New World" and its seemingly limitless resources, that saved them. Again, you will NEVER find this truth in any "history books". In the past 100 years alone, more than 1 MILLION plant and animal species have become extinct. Who did this ? Who taught the world to do this ? One guess. It only took 500 years to complete the lesson. Finally, if "not all Europeans are White", tell THAT to the Turkish, Arab, Asian and African immigrants in Europe, which does not, and never will, integrate minorities very well, if at all, into the broader European culture; the Americans do a MUCH better job. Just saying.
Let me tell you something you are unaware of. Africans take extreme pride in preserving there culture, religion, and land. They have been doing this for thousands of years or how long they have existed. They will never change anything about it to the benefit foriegners. They will protect these things if it means endless wars. It is the same reason majority of Europeans gave up there colonies due to the forever struggle with Africans. It is there way of life and they won't change it for anybody.
@lightningRatPack what r u talking about, majority of Africans r in Africa, white man can rule south America, Australia, newzealand coz their natives r weak, but Africa is different, Africans fight forever frm generation to generation
Excerpt from the question in the description box: "Now a group of Afrikaners, many descended from the original Voortrekkers, are setting off again, this time to northern Mozambique. Can the two groups live in harmony and who will really benefit from this 'Second Great Trek.'?"Both could benefit greatly from having the white Africans in Mozambique. Whites made the 2 most affluent nations in Africa that were the bread baskets of Africa, when they were forced by militant and international pressure to give up sovereignty and control of the nations they created, both countries fell economically. I hope Mozambique will be wise enough to learn from the folly of these other 2 nation's mistakes. Let the whites do what they do best. They are excellent farmers and will benefit your country, don't be racist like the whites are always accused of and your country will prosper.
@dude man The USA didn't become rich by slavery. The slave keeping southern states were the poorest and the paid labor based economy of the North was prosperous. One of the reasons why Whites went into war with each other to end the backward inefficient slave based economy of the south. 👍👍✌✌👌👌👌✌✌👍👍👍👍✌✌👌✌✌✌✌✌✌✌!
Sympathies just say he was original tribe of Africa laughing so hard you better go back to Europe where you came from because you just going to find yourself wandering through the dregs of the Earth with coronavirus going on it I just think you be better off going back home
In 1866 the Boer & Zulu nation met again & stacked rocks of peace at the Ncome River. There was also an alliance with King Mpande during the era of the Natalia Republic. In 1884 King Dinizulu entered into an alliance with the Boers & GAVE part of northern Natal to the Boer which is how the Vryheid (Freedom) Republic was established. After the Boer were defeated in the war, the British took the peace rocks by train & dumped them into the Vaal where they still lie to this day
Hoodwinking the Youth in South Africa...The Boer didn't come in Peace and No African Leader invited him to South Africa...The Blacks fought the Boers because the Boers were murderous invaders ..whose sole purpose was to usurp the best tracks of Land...by Force. Boers conquest & subsequent Rule can't be Sanitized Ever..
@@itsjustaname3386 Apartheird happened mainly because the zulu's couldnt get along with anyone. So there was a lot of fighting between the brisitsh and the Zulus and the afrikaans and the Zulus. When the Afrikaaners found gold and diamonds. Then the british said ok i will take all thanks as they had a much bigger force. Then The Zulus wanted work and money but the British and afrikaaners didnt want to live with the same people they have been fighting for like 200 years. So the apartheid laws started. Then the laws got worse and worse and then apartheid started.
It takes 10lbs to balance 10lbs and if you accept anything else then you are not a realist. The vootreckers started wrong and it must end wrong for them.
In five years time, Journeyman should visit the family going to Mozambique to see how it worked out for them. The problem of moving into a very poor area is that even a poor white family will seem "rich" to the locals and then the problems begin. Need we say more?
Both South Africa and Mozambique are poor third world countries and need very hard to get visa for travel to Western countries. . Compare them with Japan,Korea and Singapore and you will see the difference,
aa bb have you being to South Africa.... you have poor people everywhere you go. I had seen poor Chinese, poor people from Singapore and Korea... why are they fleeing to the west 😂😂
I'm a white Polish man living in Peru and it's lovely.....no racism, no apartheid.... I invite all South Afrikaaners to move here and live the dream life ❤️❤️ there are loads of opportunities here ❤️❤️ I'll help you guys get started ❤️❤️
Polish you say.... Ur are a visitor in Peru and it has its indeginous owners.. Pay them Fair Wages for Fair work... failure to which they will Resent You and Fight you..
I wrote here a year ago about U and Peru Demanding you People of European immigration pay fair Wages to the Indeginous First people.... Little did i know my prophecy will bring in a new Government with Socialist ideals demanding Fair Wages and ending injustices to Indeginous Communities... Its called the Wind of Change.
@@gerardfouche2718 ......U saw/found my thread and Comments about AFRICA 4 AFRICANS as "Stupid"?? This is a Learning Forum.. Why don't u use your Historical Knowledge and Presentation intellect and pen a piece, explain How European Gained Foothold in Most of AFRICA especially SA. IF Indeginous African decide to Act "Stupid" your Grand Children may End up in Eu, Argentina or even Australia..poorer. AFRICA is a Beautiful place but only for those who Respect it's Owners!
@@maureenjackson2041 they built up South Africa and have ancestry in the land. Why should they. If that's the case everyone in North, South and Central America should go back to Europe. Every Black African, Asian should leave Europe and go back to where they originated from...
@@upthefckingtigers I don't give a damn the Boers are still European always have been and always will be, I will NEVER consider them African especially when so many of them are very conservative.
@@Salty.Peasants No the degeneracy you speak of is in Holland, seen the free prostitution economy in Holland, you have town trading on the body of women now that is degeneracy and filth. You live in the shithole raised from exploitation, violence and greed
@@Salty.Peasants It wasn't until greedy Europeans arrived. And if, why do Europeans refuse to give it up. France extorts 500 billion dollars a year from 14 "poor" African countries. A French president was said. 'They will never give up Africa, without Africa France would be a third world country." Google it. You are a product of anglo saxon, lying, whitewashing and brainwashing.
@Julie Mitchell Says the descendant of the sub human Neanderthals that crawled out of the cave on all fours, hair all over, and grunting. Raw meat eaters, which explains a lot and you still carry that DNA. So, what do you do. You put down others, to make you feel good about yourself. If it works for you, go for it.
@@jstreet2852 You're an idiot. "They will never give up Africa, without Africa France would be a third world country." One of the dumbest statements I've ever read. Just stay the hell out of my country.
Did you know after the Boar war the boars who were loyal to the British were allowed to move to the colony of Kenya..they are locally known as kaburu..their contribution to Kenya extends to today's modern Kenya. They are very hard workers and very progressive towards the development of any Nation that has welcomed them,and so many nations have tried to attract them including countries like Bolivia, in South America.
@@williamkamau1167 The Africans who took the land in Kenya after liberation /independence took all the land for themselves & their cronies the problem of land is due to bad leadership & greed of these so called leaders .....the Boers just want to work their land & produce & importantly conflicts exist everywhere btwn big farms & locals .,.look at Zimbabwe from a breadbasket to a disgusting economy ...leave the Afrikaners alone.....
The people who "look white" are not native to NorthWest Africa, they are basically either immigrants or descendants of some invader (be it Greek, Roman, Germanic (vandals), Turk, french etcetera) often these people were absorbed into African black berber tribes, and sometimes they even became the majority of those tribes. It simply does not make sense that Sicilian and southern portuguese,spainards already are brown/black skinned and for white skin to pop out in the sahara desert
BARILOCHE VILLA TRAFUL ESQUEL PUERTO BLEST ELTZ EL BOLSON VILLA LA ANGOSTURA MAMUSCHKA SAN MARTIN DE LOS ANDES LAS LEÑAS TRELEW PUERTO MADRYN RAWSON COMODORO RIVADAVIA RIO GALLEGOS USHUAIA ANTARTIDA ARGENTINA
The South African government gave R6Million for this project, a government that should therefore be recognised and praised for assisting white farmers for their apparent pioneering spirit to conquer and spread divisions again.
They would be better off in places like Australia since they are mostly right wing and conservative in their views,Australia is big with plenty of space and not only will they blend in they will also fit and probably feel at home as most Aussies are of European descent there, why on earth go to another African country Mozambique is a very poor country.
I would also say they should go farming in New Zealand or even back to their ancestol homeland after all there presence in Mozambique bimight create resentment amongst Mozambicans.
Oh G look man they're not African and they're not regarded as African by most blacks and from the video I see these people are pretty conservative so they should go and farm outside Africa either in Europe or in Oceania where people of European descent are in the majority. Why farm amongst indigenous Africans if there right wing and not willing to live alongside them I say immigrate to New Zealand in particular.
THE BOER ARE CALVINISM THEY BELIEVE WHAT THEY DO IS THE RIGHT THING SEND BY GOD AND THE DON'T FELL GUILTY ABOUT IT. THEY COME HERE IN AFRICA TO RULE NOT TO BE EQUAL WITH AFRICANS.
I know that lots of white South African families immigrated to Russia and they are very happy now. They were accepted very well and they make good money for high quality family life. Many people know the fact that Russia is the largest country in the world but they are not aware that Russia is also one of the richest countries in the world. Also farming in Russia is very well developed so lots of white farmers went to Russia, not only from South Africa but also from some European countries and many of them got farming land for free. You should probable go to Russian embassy in South Africa and inquire about immigrating to Russia and getting much better life, as in South Africa situation will only got worse for white people.
Lol " We are the only indigenous white people living in Africa". I guess the old geezer never learned that the Portuguese got there some 200 years before them or even the Vandals to Algeria and Tunisia.
Anto Walk EU has rejected them. ...Australia as well....maybe Russia will take them in. They should blame their evil, racist Boer ancestors who treated tge blacks, the original owners of the land like dirt, for their woes. Mozambique should be careful with them
Black people wake up and stop all this discrimination against white Africans cause they did much good too and contribute a lot to the grow of your land. So let the pass go and move on together for better future!
livhu mbuwe RACIST PEABRAIN ALERT!" go hang out with a Zulu and see how long your friendship lasts stupid commie you will have an axe in your head headache
Tribalism is definitely the driving structure for the black man in Africa. It is their origin and the basis of their culture. It is why they still live as their ancestors did thousands of years ago. This an obvious fact and not racism.
This is like White Americans saying they are not Europeans. I've seen many Afrikaners mix into predominately white European countries and do well. Their children then forget their history and speak the language of their new country. It may not be what the old folk want, but it's the only logical outcome. Back in the 1980's they did have the opportunity to annex part of South Africa and have it for themselves, either Western Cape of the Free State, but no, they wanted it all for themselves. Now they are loosing the lot. I'm not taking side, that would be disloyal to some friends, but for goodness sake, think logically.
Gran Yasharal: More is the pity Rhodesia is no more for what Mugabe & his ilk did to the place, as soon as he got his grubby & bloody hands on afterwards!!
It's not if you know what really happened. Look it up, more Africans died at the hands of other Africans under apartheid than by the security forces. That's from the Human Rights Commission. They died extremely painful deaths, necklacing was just the favourite way to kill because it entertained the masses. If you don't believe that, watch a video they are available on UA-cam. More Africans died every year, killed by other Africans, than died during the entire apartheid era which lasted just short of 50 years, It could be 7 or 70 years after apartheid, they will be doing exactly the same. If this was just down to apartheid, how do you explain Zimbabwe? They didn't have it there and ever since they gained independence years before SA did, they poured into the apartheid state by the thousands, from as far away as Nigeria, Ethiopia, Somalia and Ghana - walking thousands of miles in some cases. If life was so bad for Africans why would they go through all that go get there.
@@michellee2990 Thank you, I lived there for 30+ years but left after getting tired of all the violence and a black employee informing me she could arrange a necklacing for R50 was the deciding factor. She was quite blase about it, a human life ending in excruciating pain for what was then about £6.
Why is it Mozambique and Zambia are actively encouraging Europeans to return? Might it be that they have emerged from the self-congratulatory party - the decades long delusional post-independence orgy of corruption and incompetence realizing that destroying a country is easy, building one is hard taking the kind of entrepreneurial enterprise and skills that the Afrikaners and whites bring with them. Skills that when applied build wealthy modern societies. SA dont leave it too long
These people are hardworking farmers, we should welcame them if they integrate socialy economicaly with the local black africans people. They should learn from the history for better future.
Livhu, so when would you say people are indigenous to an area? 100 years? Perhaps 200? Maybe 300 years? If you believe the color of people's skin make them indigenous to a continent, then you are a racist. If you want to repatriate people to their "indigenous" origins, you'd have to move most of the black people in South Africa out, too. Your argument is a fallacy.
The afrikaaners have basically been there for 500 years. They predate most of the states and kingdoms that fell as the euro empires grabbed land hundreds of years later
Trying to develop agriculture in the Nyassa region ha a long history: i was there in 1997 1998 when the first Boers arrived. Great farmers with big experience in Africa (in the Apartheid's South Africa) but the land use regulations for the project was poorly designed and conflict with local population brought the project to failure. Land issues in Africa are not a joke and South Africans Boers have a terrible reputation.
@P T 1st is a way to defuse conflicts in South Africa, 2nd Mozambique tried to develop Nyassa using the agricultural skills of the Boers. The PROJECT ONCE MORE WAS POORLY DESIGNED underestimating the risk of conflicts with the local population. Once more since other agricultural projects in the Nyassa BEFORE had failed
The colonial mind is oozing out of your comment...maybe their a afraid of the same social savagery that their parents and the 600,000,000 American Indians experienced
the race relations issue in south Africa needs to be addressed I speak Xhosa Zulu Afrikaans and English and I can communicate in both black and white communities
I was born in South-Africa - how I wish my ancestors never moved to that Godforesaken place that is Africa and stayed in Europe. I would be happt to deal with the wet cold winters and living in a shoebox apartment. Why do these farmers want to move to even worse dark Africa - go to Australia.
what I would like to know is are these Afrikaners still in mozambique because this vid is from 1997. Did they make it or was the project a disaster??it is now 2011!!!
Here once again, just like back home in South Africa whence the settlers came, the citizens of Mozambique and their government are bound together in the enterprise of nation-building. Which one of the three is in charge, you may ask? The government of Mozambique cannot tell the citizens what to do with their own lives, let alone how to go about earning a living from their own land. They may take advice from their government, but that is their own decision to make. The settlers are the newcomers. How are they getting along with the citizens of Mozambique? The government may allocate them land which may be vacant, but under what conditions? It boils down to the age-old question: Is it good leadership - that is GOOD GOVERNANCE or not? Is the government being taken advantage of by the settlers or not? The answer: If the citizens of Mozambique are sidelined, and not in charge of their destiny, thus the government dictating to them what to do with their own land, the entire enterprise will ultimately fail. "Those who do not learn from history, are doomed to repeat it."
@@hellworld3000 I wish you could read it and understand it. Either you didn't completely, or you could have, but it may be way beyond your ability to understand the age-old issue of human rights to which every human being on this planet is entitled. By the way, how much education do you have?
diversity....i live in europe and there is no black trying to take lands in here so stop playing the victim we all know afrikaners,when it comes of land grabbing...not all of you but we know who they are...this is not about racism
As long as the indigenous black inhabitants remain in servitude the Boers will be happy ... good luck with that ! The word to learn is shared cooperation.
The 3rd and 1st world cant work together. The one has the ability to create prosperity and the other chaos and destruction. After 25 years we now have the last example in africa of what happens if you want africa to run a country.
Are you a fool do you want a repeat of slavery or apartheid those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it yes we Africans are not racist but remember they are
White South Africans are African in nature and should embrace their fellow brothers and sisters. For far too long you have seen yourself as superior, in charge and seeking out the best opportunities. Grow up and accept that democracy needs to prevail.
@@kimkardashian6149 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Stick to what you know best, but first work out what that is. The crusaders went to the middle east, not Africa. Did you mean colonialists sweetheart?
They dont see themselves as superior and never did, they just wanted to develop their own culture and land, the bantu flocked to them when they saw all the good things they had, the Boer would have been quite happy to have been left alone. I'm not a Boer before you try that one in your next reply. The superiority comes from the bantu side, you just have to read the comments where they stop just short of creating the universe. The proof is already there for anyone to see in Orania, all Afrikaner, not one bantu, they do everything themselves and are thriving. Of course the government is planning to take that too.
I'm just wonder why they settle down there even though their original motherlands already granted independence to African countries....I'm from Myanmar and British colonized mine....They just depleted the country's economic during their century long rule but they didn't touch the religion or cultural assimilation , they didn't even bother to settle here too .....when they gave independence, they all got out of our country except a few Anglo-Burmese ( mixed people like my family ) remained and we either adopted the Burmese culture by getting trace of British ancestry in a generation or two after the British left.
Boers had their 1st anti-colonial freedom struggle against the Dutch in 1795 on the Cape frontier. Those that trekked inland were called Trekboers. They trekked to escape the oppressive British & Dutch rulers. Boers never killed the natives during the 2nd Boer war! The Boer wars had absolutely nothing to do with any Bantu people lol Boer wars were between the Boer & the British & you say i`m unbelievable & misinformed. Must I tell you about the Boer war ? Learn some history before commenting man
All That They Farm Goes To Europe, And They Send The Rotten Left Overs Back To AFRICA ! And The AFRICAN People Were Farming Their Land, Before They Even Got There ! And Still Are ,All They Do Is Get AFRICAN MEN To Do The Farming . While They Look Over The Land And Tell Them What To Do And Fake For The CAMERAS !!! And By The Way All The AFRICAN Markets Have Fresh Fruits And Vegetables That Comes From Their Farms !!! DEMON
ricardo i never said anything racist about the boers, simply that they built south africa using slave labour and that they are not indispensible to Africa. Africa is not just SA... and that all southern african countries are developing even though they dont have boers. Happily developing without having to be treated like second class citizens in their own countries.
Mozambique Area: 901,914 sq miles Difference from the real world. Mozambique has a 1,5 and 10 Metical banknotes. Mozambique has all of Madagascar and Tanzania. The Islamic Insurgency of Cabo Delago didn't happen. Electric shortages don't happen either. I want to see what would happen if all the 16,000 South Africans in Georgia and Russia lives in Mozambique to stay close to their native country their children grow up in the wilds and remote areas of Mozambique earning more money having a than they would have in Georgia and Russia and have a very high birthrate. I would love to see a documentary series about this story from 1990 to the present day. It sounds so much fun.
@ livhu mbuwe I from the Caribbean, a little island named Guadeloupe, we have the same white people here, since 1600 and after. They live in the campaign, speak creole as us, some of them are also poor as us, but they are white and consider themselves as superior. No contact, no marriage with blacks, they keep their blood pure. Just a little community, Degenerated because of consanguine marriage.
livhu Mbubuwe dont be a hypocrite Do you see ZULUS and XHOSAS hanging out together as homies without the axes and machettes comin out boo GET REAL DUDE!
@Maha janga Mohamed Ali was black, lived in USA not Africa, yet he said, what's wrong with wanting to be with your own, I want my kids to look like me, not sone other race. So wake up before you talk fork tongue shit. It's natural, crows with crows, ducks with ducks. Problem is damn liberals want to mix it all up and non whites that marry whites suddenly think they are better than their countrymen. Like keeping a white wife as a trophy. The you end up with frey kids that dnt fit into society, they not sure what their culture is... End up as confused misfits.
Boer originated from the White German, Frisian & Danish servants the VOC dumped at the Cape. These servants were forcefully removed from their home countries which is why the Boer cannot be a colonial power. These groups later amalgamated with the French Huguenots refugees who were sent to the Cape during their attempts at escaping political & religious persecution back in France. Boers developed from the poorest segment of this amalgamated group who left the West Cape in the late 1600s to 1700s
@Whizper2me Yet I see no Melanin or other superficial qualities of African peoples, not even a hint...Europeans have 0.02 African Genes too doesn't mean they're indigenous
I was thinking about feeling sorry for the Caucasian people in SA or Africa but I can't. Why because you know this day was coming. Did you think that the sleeping giants of Africa was going to sleep forever. Nice try.
All I can do is tell the Mozambican bros the Afrikaners are good at working the soil I can see them prospering from the know how's of commercial farming in time they'll build hospitals, schools and infrastructure around their farms and that means jobs and stable life and education for their children plse have patience your govt is on the right track and its your duty to support it don't be like your neighbours they destroyed their economies by taking land and chasing away even their black brothers and the nations who once were bread baskets of the continent now can't even feed it's people, soo sad the start is hard but when things start to move you'll appreciate your timely decision and please remember the color of the skin is not an issue this people are professionals and they are Africans .
@ Muhidi Aden...This is a new Age and dispensation... How can a desperate Land less vagabond state less Land grabber have any Surplus Financial muscle to put up Social welfare infrastructure... These people don't offer Charity like church missionary... The are Selfish business people...out to make Africans workers poorer than the wretched of Bihar India.. The Boer Farmers should go to Ukraine, Belarus, Caucasus and Soviet states and try there.. Africa doesn't need Supremacist.
exodus of the boer.. sad to think that their ancestors did the same to live and cultivate the land.. its like your own country deporting its citizens, its their loss.. harvest your own greed
Unfortunately, this is a widely spread misconception. Have you never heard of the Khoisan, the Indegenous people of Southern Africa? Even the bantu-speaking nations were present in the area of South Africa hundreds of years before any European settlers. Throw away your apartheid-era history book and deal with the proper facts, even if they don't fit into your anti-black attitude.
Deuteronomy 32:8 When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.
Now you should agree that your forefathers have messed up by illtreating Africans in their native country. And its amazing how you guys move from one black country to another. Why not try Holland for a change?
How are these farmers supposed to help the workers of Mozambique? By giving them work? By just giving money to them as if they are millionaires.? Shouldn't the farmers first be given the time to settle.? The farmers need help themselves! This is the old story, if the farmers can't make enough money to support themselves and to develop their farms, how can they start off by giving money to the workers? This sounds like the same idea as that of the workers in SA. They seem to want land that they never bought. Sounds like another dangerous and very risky situation!
@Martin Boshoff....for two years No one answered ur Question...
....If you want to Farm in Mozambique , SA or Congo etc...you have to stop being a Slave Overseer and a expunge ur Colonial mind set...
...Its a privilege for you to Farm anywhere in Africa...under the Sun amongst Blacks.....its NOT ...a Favor to Black Africa.
You have to pay Fair Wage for Work done .... Failure to which u will Never know Industrial Peace...but Strife & Murders..." Pichfolks...!
Btw you can Always Go to Europe, Ukraine, Belarus and other Former Soviet Republics, Canada, the USA or even South America.(Argentina.. Paraguay)..
No one compels you to Stay in Africa....u are free to Leave..
@@williamkamau1167 i can't believe you had the energy to reply to his nonsense.
This person talka about working without pay, that's slavery. Let's not give such energies attention. Those left SA after apartheid left because they know what they've done
A 20-year follow-up would be amazing
Not going to happen Putin about to see his arse.
Yes the blacks who live in the huts today will be demanding their rights and the money and land stolen from them. These farmers need to come to the US or Australia, New Zealand.......Africa is being destroyed by the majority who don't know where the blame really lies.
A two year follow up is more in order. These communists will be starving by then.
@Facts not Feelings they were fine before u Neanderthals came plenty of food free at peace ur people set them back hundreds of years they had to depend on their oppressors for survival thats why they had problems farming they couldn't get to deal with outside resources and trades yall had it cut off
@Facts not Feelings They survived before your coming so what is your point? If they had all died, there would have been no one for you to treat badly. They survived and yours folks met them so what the f are talking about. They will NOT do well without you? As if they needed you before you went there.
South Africa is quite an interesting social experiment... the world should pay more attention.
Diamond
it's not the first experiment of it's kind, the same society collapse happened in Congo in the 60's and 70's,
when the Belgian elite suddenly had to turn over all the government jobs and high responsibility jobs to Black Congolese people with harldy any education...
Result was a total collapse of infrastructure, hospitals, government, economy...
it has nothing to do with skin color or racism, it's just that any population needs about 40 years to build an educated middle class that's able to rule a complex country...
Zimbabwe situation is a very good example of how racism affects everyone.
@@SimpleLifeAlways81 it's not just racism, it's about general socialism versus capitalism ...
People that have wealth/land want to preserve it at all cost, and people without land/wealth want to take it...
It's just human nature, all over the world...
The 'race' card is used by both sides at their own convenience...
It's sad... Zimbabwe deserves better... the brave people there do
We are very glad and proud to welcome you guys, but we won't accept rascim and apartheid here in Mozambique, we cannot accept more Portuguese style, so if we can work together as human beings, not representation with colour out skin, that okay.
They new leaders are Black, and Bill Clinton allowed the murders of White farmers to happen. The land was divided between the relatives of the new politicians who knew nothing about farming or how to operate equipment. S.Africa used to be the bread basket of Africa. When a farm was being attacked, there were strike teams to call, but the police made strike teams illegal and took the side of the attackers.
This is the very mindset that has put our people in the predicament that we're in right now 🤨 WEAK!!
@@rebekahroyal2679right, let your people be rolled over by white nationalists and have them keep you in poverty like they did 2 decades ago, lmao you may not like the answer but the observation is true.
This story is from 2007 - I would love to see an updated followup video of how things have worked out since this video was made.
No. It's from August 1997. Journeyman posted it in 2007.
@@msizimcanyana1414 folks were already leaving in 1990 :-(
The story is from 1997, not 2007.
@@Holland1994D Wow that's old. What is this: manipulation?
It wouldn’t be pretty
Why is it allways the blacks needing help? Help for what? If you give them a house with all the amenities they use the bathtub to build a fire, if you give them machinery it end up broken and neglected, give them food and they start a war over it and so forth. It's the same story here in Argentina, give give give, and they never give nothing in return. Paternalistic policies only aggravate the situation.
You are speaking from a point of total ignorance. I would like to know whether you have any knowledge of pre-European invasion Africa...You would not even vomit your garbage, if you did know the true African history-- not the fabricated one by Europeans which taught in schools the world over....
You don't even know what you are talking about. I wouldn't spend a minute arguing with an idiot like you as you would win the argument anyways given the experience you have at being an ignorant idiot.
The only thing to be gained from the influx of the white farmers is the technilogy associated with mechanized farming. Africans traditionally practice subsistance farming and are not usually involved in large scale commercial farming.
what world do you live in
No, no, no ... It is YOU who doesn't want to admit the true history of the DIFFERENT ethnic groups and their development in Africa. I can teach you, if you like to. And then you could verify all the historical facts that political correct influence scholars of today are not allow to say. History is not the way we want , but the way it was and it is.
Remember that this wasn't even five years after the end of apartheid.
Noor Elahi How quick it turned to shit at the hands of Black people
@@JacobafJelling You should visit North America or Western Europe someday, just to see what has been done to humanity AND the land, at the hands of White people. You will FINALLY receive that education that you so clearly lack.
@@JacobafJelling It was already shit for 80% of the country, the blacks have only spread that to include another 10% of the country.
Equality is spreading, maybe they should forget that racism stuff and work to uplift ALL of South Africa.
LordBane Well. I’m from Northern Europe, so I know Well of what happened. But even the worst places here are less violent. Also not all Europeans are White
@@JacobafJelling "so I know Well of what happened.....So does the rest of the world.
"But even the worst places here are less violent."...tell THAT to all the victims of rape, murder and bombings in Europe. No doubt they would vehemently disagree with you.
"Also not all Europeans are White"....they were until they decided to leave their decaying homeland and colonize the entire planet, looting the treasuries of their subjugated victims. It is not taught in "history books" but Europeans hunted animal species not only to scarcity, but extinction. It was only the discovery of the "New World" and its seemingly limitless resources, that saved them. Again, you will NEVER find this truth in any "history books". In the past 100 years alone, more than 1 MILLION plant and animal species have become extinct. Who did this ? Who taught the world to do this ? One guess. It only took 500 years to complete the lesson.
Finally, if "not all Europeans are White", tell THAT to the Turkish, Arab, Asian and African immigrants in Europe, which does not, and never will, integrate minorities very well, if at all, into the broader European culture; the Americans do a MUCH better job.
Just saying.
Those who forget their history are doomed to repeat it.
Let me tell you something you are unaware of. Africans take extreme pride in preserving there culture, religion, and land. They have been doing this for thousands of years or how long they have existed. They will never change anything about it to the benefit foriegners. They will protect these things if it means endless wars. It is the same reason majority of Europeans gave up there colonies due to the forever struggle with Africans. It is there way of life and they won't change it for anybody.
The East Africans stole lands from indigenous tribes! They can’t say it’s theirs cuz really, it’s not.
Thats why so many are starving and in real pain. most are now running to the US and Europe because they are so proud of what they have.
@lightningRatPack what r u talking about, majority of Africans r in Africa, white man can rule south America, Australia, newzealand coz their natives r weak, but Africa is different, Africans fight forever frm generation to generation
Excerpt from the question in the description box: "Now a group of Afrikaners, many descended from the original Voortrekkers, are setting off again, this time to northern Mozambique. Can the two groups live in harmony and who will really benefit from this 'Second Great Trek.'?"Both could benefit greatly from having the white Africans in Mozambique. Whites made the 2 most affluent nations in Africa that were the bread baskets of Africa, when they were forced by militant and international pressure to give up sovereignty and control of the nations they created, both countries fell economically. I hope Mozambique will be wise enough to learn from the folly of these other 2 nation's mistakes. Let the whites do what they do best. They are excellent farmers and will benefit your country, don't be racist like the whites are always accused of and your country will prosper.
@dude man yet a black farmer can't run a farm properly
@dude man Why does it always seem that the "lazy" whites are creating wealth and prosperity? When they are gone so the prosperity.
@dude man The USA didn't become rich by slavery. The slave keeping southern states were the poorest and the paid labor based economy of the North was prosperous. One of the reasons why Whites went into war with each other to end the backward inefficient slave based economy of the south. 👍👍✌✌👌👌👌✌✌👍👍👍👍✌✌👌✌✌✌✌✌✌✌!
Seems like they were exploiting south africa and selling its food abroad without asking south Africans. That's called colonialism.
Sympathies just say he was original tribe of Africa laughing so hard you better go back to Europe where you came from because you just going to find yourself wandering through the dregs of the Earth with coronavirus going on it I just think you be better off going back home
My sister is WHite and live in Mozambique. I love Mozambique, It's a grea country!
JWille Series tell her to get out!
Except when you piss of the Africans there & they decide to work on you. Mozambique is the land of FREELIMO.
@@nkiru61 She already have XD
She needs to go back to Europe
@@joleshore4818 She already have XD Why do you care so much about what continent people you have never met and no next to nothing about live on?
In 1866 the Boer & Zulu nation met again & stacked rocks of peace at the Ncome River. There was also an alliance with King Mpande during the era of the Natalia Republic. In 1884 King Dinizulu entered into an alliance with the Boers & GAVE part of northern Natal to the Boer which is how the Vryheid (Freedom) Republic was established. After the Boer were defeated in the war, the British took the peace rocks by train & dumped them into the Vaal where they still lie to this day
No. That never happened.
Then why did apartheid happen? Not trying to fight, I'm just geniunley asking.
Hoodwinking the Youth in South Africa...The Boer didn't come in Peace and No African Leader invited him to South Africa...The Blacks fought the Boers because the Boers were murderous invaders ..whose sole purpose was to usurp the best tracks of Land...by Force.
Boers conquest & subsequent Rule can't be Sanitized Ever..
Apartheid is a Brittish institution. When gold was discovered they did it to disposess everyone off the land
@@itsjustaname3386 Apartheird happened mainly because the zulu's couldnt get along with anyone. So there was a lot of fighting between the brisitsh and the Zulus and the afrikaans and the Zulus. When the Afrikaaners found gold and diamonds. Then the british said ok i will take all thanks as they had a much bigger force. Then The Zulus wanted work and money but the British and afrikaaners didnt want to live with the same people they have been fighting for like 200 years. So the apartheid laws started. Then the laws got worse and worse and then apartheid started.
Ioan pena the africans were in that land for thousands of years before europeans came.......who fed them then?
This family saw it coming
So much racial HATRED in these posts. You who will not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.
It takes 10lbs to balance 10lbs and if you accept anything else then you are not a realist.
The vootreckers started wrong and it must end wrong for them.
In five years time, Journeyman should visit the family going to Mozambique to see how it worked out for them. The problem of moving into a very poor area is that even a poor white family will seem "rich" to the locals and then the problems begin. Need we say more?
Both South Africa and Mozambique are poor third world countries and need very hard to get visa for travel to Western countries. . Compare them with Japan,Korea and Singapore and you will see the difference,
soros oria that is why they should think about going to Europe
True....
Soros Oria they are going now to take the locals land... instead of their government help them with their farm they rather bring these white farmers
aa bb have you being to South Africa.... you have poor people everywhere you go. I had seen poor Chinese, poor people from Singapore and Korea... why are they fleeing to the west 😂😂
I'm a white Polish man living in Peru and it's lovely.....no racism, no apartheid.... I invite all South Afrikaaners to move here and live the dream life ❤️❤️ there are loads of opportunities here ❤️❤️ I'll help you guys get started ❤️❤️
Polish you say....
Ur are a visitor in Peru and it has its indeginous owners..
Pay them Fair Wages for Fair work... failure to which they will Resent You and Fight you..
I wrote here a year ago about U and Peru Demanding you People of European immigration pay fair Wages to the Indeginous First people....
Little did i know my prophecy will bring in a new Government with Socialist ideals demanding Fair Wages and ending injustices to Indeginous Communities...
Its called the Wind of Change.
I love to hear you’re polish and friendly with all races. You are cool.
Farmers never receive anything from previous goverment
Afrika is not a black continent. Africa belongs to arabian people, not black people
@@williamkamau1167 your comment is a bit stupid. Shows your mentality
@@gerardfouche2718 ......U saw/found my thread and Comments about AFRICA 4 AFRICANS as "Stupid"??
This is a Learning Forum..
Why don't u use your Historical Knowledge and Presentation intellect and pen a piece, explain How European Gained Foothold in Most of AFRICA especially SA.
IF Indeginous African decide to Act "Stupid" your Grand Children may End up in Eu, Argentina or even Australia..poorer.
AFRICA is a Beautiful place but only for those who Respect it's Owners!
@@williamkamau1167 now you sound even more stupid.
@@williamkamau1167 I am a born South African with a brain and a spine.
You can move to a new land to start a new life with the same old SELF, IT DOES NOT WORK
I know this is a very old video 2007. It's now 2019 and we never ever hear about our farmers in Mozambique? How are you doing today.?
Even older than that, it was originally recorded in 1997
I wonder too, I knew folks setting up there in the early 90's , before any thoughts of an election !
PETER...BARILOCHE VILLA LA ANGOSTURA EL BOLSON ESQUEL PUERTO BLEST VILLA TRAFUL SAN MARTIN DE LOS ANDES...BOERS BIENVENIDOS A ARGENTINA
@@scottgordon1781 ARGENTINA UBER ALLES
@Facts not Feelings ARGENTINA UBER ALLES
I remember meeting a family of Boers in Malawi in 2014. The things the man talked about were sad, but I had truly no idea on the subject.
The boers is kolonialism
Why don't they just move to the Netherlands, Germany or France after all that's where boers originate from. They are also European.
@@maureenjackson2041 they built up South Africa and have ancestry in the land. Why should they. If that's the case everyone in North, South and Central America should go back to Europe. Every Black African, Asian should leave Europe and go back to where they originated from...
@@maureenjackson2041 because Africa is home
@@upthefckingtigers
I don't give a damn the Boers are still European always have been and always will be, I will NEVER consider them African especially when so many of them are very conservative.
He's sitting on a ticking time bomb. How long before 40 workers turn into 40 brutal murderers.
He prefers beautiful African land and exploitation rather than icy dead cold in Europe with bad soil and hardship of life that will led to his death.
@@Salty.Peasants No the degeneracy you speak of is in Holland, seen the free prostitution economy in Holland, you have town trading on the body of women now that is degeneracy and filth. You live in the shithole raised from exploitation, violence and greed
@@Salty.Peasants It wasn't until greedy Europeans arrived. And if, why do Europeans refuse to give it up. France extorts 500 billion dollars a year from 14 "poor" African countries. A French president was said. 'They will never give up Africa, without Africa France would be a third world country." Google it. You are a product of anglo saxon, lying, whitewashing and brainwashing.
@Julie Mitchell Says the descendant of the sub human Neanderthals that crawled out of the cave on all fours, hair all over, and grunting. Raw meat eaters, which explains a lot and you still carry that DNA. So, what do you do. You put down others, to make you feel good about yourself. If it works for you, go for it.
@@jstreet2852 You're an idiot. "They will never give up Africa, without Africa France would be a third world country." One of the dumbest statements I've ever read. Just stay the hell out of my country.
Did you know after the Boar war the boars who were loyal to the British were allowed to move to the colony of Kenya..they are locally known as kaburu..their contribution to Kenya extends to today's modern Kenya. They are very hard workers and very progressive towards the development of any Nation that has welcomed them,and so many nations have tried to attract them including countries like Bolivia, in South America.
True ....but Boers are like ticks....once settled on African Land on lease or rent they imagine it theirs for gd...
A lease means just that.
Boers farmers. Not boars they aren't wild pigs.
Ok ..Africaans..even this title is not fitting!!!!
@@williamkamau1167 The Africans who took the land in Kenya after liberation /independence took all the land for themselves & their cronies the problem of land is due to bad leadership & greed of these so called leaders .....the Boers just want to work their land & produce & importantly conflicts exist everywhere btwn big farms & locals .,.look at Zimbabwe from a breadbasket to a disgusting economy ...leave the Afrikaners alone.....
@@zafikhawaja They got killed and sent off during the Mau Mau war. Kenyans also didn't have time to tolerate nonsense from European Land grabbers.
The people who "look white" are not native to NorthWest Africa, they are basically either immigrants or descendants of some invader (be it Greek, Roman, Germanic (vandals), Turk, french etcetera) often these people were absorbed into African black berber tribes, and sometimes they even became the majority of those tribes. It simply does not make sense that Sicilian and southern portuguese,spainards already are brown/black skinned and for white skin to pop out in the sahara desert
Lets hope they treat their Mozambicans workers well and pay taxes. It could be a win win situation
BARILOCHE VILLA TRAFUL ESQUEL PUERTO BLEST ELTZ EL BOLSON VILLA LA ANGOSTURA MAMUSCHKA SAN MARTIN DE LOS ANDES LAS LEÑAS TRELEW PUERTO MADRYN RAWSON COMODORO RIVADAVIA RIO GALLEGOS USHUAIA ANTARTIDA ARGENTINA
The South African government gave R6Million for this project, a government that should therefore be recognised and praised for assisting white farmers for their apparent pioneering spirit to conquer and spread divisions again.
Why isn't the US airlifting these folks to the US and giving them fast-track refugee status?
They would be better off in places like Australia since they are mostly right wing and conservative in their views,Australia is big with plenty of space and not only will they blend in they will also fit and probably feel at home as most Aussies are of European descent there, why on earth go to another African country Mozambique is a very poor country.
I would also say they should go farming in New Zealand or even back to their ancestol homeland after all there presence in Mozambique bimight create resentment amongst Mozambicans.
Maureen Jackson you rather missed the point of being a white African.
Oh G
look man they're not African and they're not regarded as African by most blacks and from the video I see these people are pretty conservative so they should go and farm outside Africa either in Europe or in Oceania where people of European descent are in the majority. Why farm amongst indigenous Africans if there right wing and not willing to live alongside them I say immigrate to New Zealand in particular.
You would think genocidal anglo america who killed the native American population would help their boar brothers wouldnt you
What about social life? The daughter said “I can’t wait to live there” but I can’t even imagine someone her age saying that.
LA PATAGONIA USHUAIA ANTARTIDA ARGENTINA
isn't it funny how quick the media turns to help white people when they aren't in power anymore 😂😂
Mr A This was posted in 1997 and apartheid ended in 1994, I wouldn’t call 3 years quick
THE BOER ARE CALVINISM THEY BELIEVE WHAT THEY DO IS THE RIGHT THING SEND BY GOD AND THE DON'T FELL GUILTY ABOUT IT. THEY COME HERE IN AFRICA TO RULE NOT TO BE EQUAL WITH AFRICANS.
@@mulopwe7030 A genuine question: how do you feel now seeing the current state of you country?
I know that lots of white South African families immigrated to Russia and they are very happy now. They were accepted very well and they make good money for high quality family life. Many people know the fact that Russia is the largest country in the world but they are not aware that Russia is also one of the richest countries in the world. Also farming in Russia is very well developed so lots of white farmers went to Russia, not only from South Africa but also from some European countries and many of them got farming land for free. You should probable go to Russian embassy in South Africa and inquire about immigrating to Russia and getting much better life, as in South Africa situation will only got worse for white people.
Lol " We are the only indigenous white people living in Africa". I guess the old geezer never learned that the Portuguese got there some 200 years before them or even the Vandals to Algeria and Tunisia.
Exactly
Not to mention north africans that have been there for tens of thousands of years.
Lots of available land being given away for free in Siberia. Boers are welcome
Thank you please encourage them to come back to Europe
Anto Walk EU has rejected them. ...Australia as well....maybe Russia will take them in. They should blame their evil, racist Boer ancestors who treated tge blacks, the original owners of the land like dirt, for their woes.
Mozambique should be careful with them
I agree, go back to the caves...
@@djw2838
How can you return to an area that you have Never been to and why must they go anywhere?
Who are you?
@@mikeylikesit5740 whites don't belong in Africa and shouldn't be in Africa
Black people wake up and stop all this discrimination against white Africans cause they did much good too and contribute a lot to the grow of your land. So let the pass go and move on together for better future!
Ishmel Daniel tell the native Americans tribes that
I don't think the white man will ever be trusted again anywhere in the world
Tell that to the RACIST
White indigenous tribe of Africa? Thats a fallacy!
You are WRONG ! Afrikaners ARE indigenous to parts of South Africa. Not all, but the most part. Read history.(P.S. I am NOT an Afrikaner,)
Fuck you k4boy
livhu mbuwe RACIST PEABRAIN ALERT!" go hang out with a Zulu and see how long your friendship lasts stupid commie you will have an axe in your head headache
First go learn your history. Oh I forgot you had pathetic education or didn't go to school.
@@nyasa4959 lol lol lol lol the boars are indigenous too a lump of rotten shit....
12 years later, and things have only gotten worse...
As any intelligent person would expect them to after apartheid ! Now the state must look after EVERYONE not just a select few with “white” skin
Tribalism is definitely the driving structure for the black man in Africa. It is their origin and the basis of their culture. It is why they still live as their ancestors did thousands of years ago. This an obvious fact and not racism.
God is our ONLY hope.
Then you're f**ked.
how can a homeless person help you materially?
This is like White Americans saying they are not Europeans. I've seen many Afrikaners mix into predominately white European countries and do well. Their children then forget their history and speak the language of their new country. It may not be what the old folk want, but it's the only logical outcome. Back in the 1980's they did have the opportunity to annex part of South Africa and have it for themselves, either Western Cape of the Free State, but no, they wanted it all for themselves. Now they are loosing the lot. I'm not taking side, that would be disloyal to some friends, but for goodness sake, think logically.
Imagine growing up a Boer(like Mr Streenkamp) thinking white privilege apartheid /South Africa won't change. *Roflmaoo!!!*
Im Rhodesian but proud of my British (Scottish) heritage .
Rhodeshia???? Where is that?
Gran Yasharal: More is the pity Rhodesia is no more for what Mugabe & his ilk did to the place, as soon as he got his grubby & bloody hands on afterwards!!
Where is rhodesia.
@@oarabilelesley4085Where Zimbabwe is now
I'd like to go visit these Voortrekkers today. I'd like to see how they're fairing some 20-odd years on. I hope they are well, and happy!
may these goodhearted people finally prosper
God Speed! :D
Their son is my neighbour here in Kaapmuiden. They're back and working as do normal people.
Pragtige Afrikaanse familie😍😍😍
born here vanriebeck here before black boy,sorry.
I really feel sorry for the Whites in SA....
It's not that bad
Me too.
Bring them to your house.
Troll you are worried PIPE DREAMS not going to happen,money talks not color.
Then take them back in America or Europe and send the black africans back in exchange.
Keep in mind this was just 7 years after the abolition of apartheid and then ask yourself if the sentiment against whites is understandable or not.
It's not if you know what really happened. Look it up, more Africans died at the hands of other Africans under apartheid than by the security forces. That's from the Human Rights Commission. They died extremely painful deaths, necklacing was just the favourite way to kill because it entertained the masses. If you don't believe that, watch a video they are available on UA-cam. More Africans died every year, killed by other Africans, than died during the entire apartheid era which lasted just short of 50 years,
It could be 7 or 70 years after apartheid, they will be doing exactly the same. If this was just down to apartheid, how do you explain Zimbabwe? They didn't have it there and ever since they gained independence years before SA did, they poured into the apartheid state by the thousands, from as far away as Nigeria, Ethiopia, Somalia and Ghana - walking thousands of miles in some cases. If life was so bad for Africans why would they go through all that go get there.
@@susanm8669 I'm not from South Africa , but I know some of South African history. Your post was well stated.
@@michellee2990 Thank you, I lived there for 30+ years but left after getting tired of all the violence and a black employee informing me she could arrange a necklacing for R50 was the deciding factor. She was quite blase about it, a human life ending in excruciating pain for what was then about £6.
Can never work out .... intolerance and envy is the outcome that leads to destruction.
Why is it Mozambique and Zambia are actively encouraging Europeans to return? Might it be that they have emerged from the self-congratulatory party - the decades long delusional post-independence orgy of corruption and incompetence realizing that destroying a country is easy, building one is hard taking the kind of entrepreneurial enterprise and skills that the Afrikaners and whites bring with them. Skills that when applied build wealthy modern societies. SA dont leave it too long
Cohen how were they eating for thousands of years before the white man came?
Eachother and hunter gathering.
They don't even know.
@Whizper2me It's called books and foreign payed educators, SA's government can pay for that if it wanted.
Sauth afrikans are welcome in Lithuania
Tomas TV Channel please take them!! Leave Africa alone!! Ugh!!
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Lol! Why are there so many Lithuanians in France?
Tomas TV Channel idiot you are looking for trouble
no white man can get an erection for a black curly tops liar.
But they need a visa even for travel which is hard to get.
These people are hardworking farmers, we should welcame them if they integrate socialy economicaly with the local black africans people. They should learn from the history for better future.
Livhu, so when would you say people are indigenous to an area? 100 years? Perhaps 200? Maybe 300 years? If you believe the color of people's skin make them indigenous to a continent, then you are a racist. If you want to repatriate people to their "indigenous" origins, you'd have to move most of the black people in South Africa out, too.
Your argument is a fallacy.
There is no boundary for black in Africa.... Africa for the Africans not africanos
Junior Daley Europeans make the same argument As well
Past treatment of white people towards blacks is why they are seen as outsiders not because of color. Africans welcome anyone
The afrikaaners have basically been there for 500 years. They predate most of the states and kingdoms that fell as the euro empires grabbed land hundreds of years later
@wernher korff hypocrite
Trying to develop agriculture in the Nyassa region ha a long history: i was there in 1997 1998 when the first Boers arrived. Great farmers with big experience in Africa (in the Apartheid's South Africa) but the land use regulations for the project was poorly designed and conflict with local population brought the project to failure. Land issues in Africa are not a joke and South Africans Boers have a terrible reputation.
@P T 1st is a way to defuse conflicts in South Africa, 2nd Mozambique tried to develop Nyassa using the agricultural skills of the Boers. The PROJECT ONCE MORE WAS POORLY DESIGNED underestimating the risk of conflicts with the local population. Once more since other agricultural projects in the Nyassa BEFORE had failed
where is the free land and $6000 start up for the black farmer
You'll fuk it up and run away with the money LOL
They are afraid of what? Electricity, running water, paved streets, etc.
The colonial mind is oozing out of your comment...maybe their a afraid of the same social savagery that their parents and the 600,000,000 American Indians experienced
the race relations issue in south Africa needs to be addressed I speak Xhosa Zulu Afrikaans and English and I can communicate in both black and white communities
Guess what Asia has all that and they have majority control, Europeans are barely there. Africans don't require Europeans to be there for that.
Weren't all the Portuguese run out of Mozambique only 40 years earlier?
I was born in South-Africa - how I wish my ancestors never moved to that Godforesaken place that is Africa and stayed in Europe. I would be happt to deal with the wet cold winters and living in a shoebox apartment. Why do these farmers want to move to even worse dark Africa - go to Australia.
You can ask that again
Hi voesek man, voesek
what I would like to know is are these Afrikaners still in mozambique because this vid is from 1997. Did they make it or was the project a disaster??it is now 2011!!!
@Whos There hahaha, exactly. It's 10 years later since the last reply and now I don't care anymore
They didn't make it. They clashed with the locals often
Good farmers are needed .
Sadly not many people think that way a lot of city people think food just comes out of the supermarket
Here once again, just like back home in South Africa whence the settlers came, the citizens of Mozambique and their government are bound together in the enterprise of nation-building. Which one of the three is in charge, you may ask? The government of Mozambique cannot tell the citizens what to do with their own lives, let alone how to go about earning a living from their own land. They may take advice from their government, but that is their own decision to make. The settlers are the newcomers. How are they getting along with the citizens of Mozambique? The government may allocate them land which may be vacant, but under what conditions? It boils down to the age-old question: Is it good leadership - that is GOOD GOVERNANCE or not? Is the government being taken advantage of by the settlers or not? The answer: If the citizens of Mozambique are sidelined, and not in charge of their destiny, thus the government dictating to them what to do with their own land, the entire enterprise will ultimately fail. "Those who do not learn from history, are doomed to repeat it."
this did not make sense at all.
@@hellworld3000 I wish you could read it and understand it. Either you didn't completely, or you could have, but it may be way beyond your ability to understand the age-old issue of human rights to which every human being on this planet is entitled. By the way, how much education do you have?
how can you afrikaans give away what your parents and grandparents worked hard for?
@Facts not Feelings where is the proof?
@Facts not Feelings more like history you just made up
diversity....i live in europe and there is no black trying to take lands in here so stop playing the victim we all know afrikaners,when it comes of land grabbing...not all of you but we know who they are...this is not about racism
As long as the indigenous black inhabitants remain in servitude the Boers will be happy ... good luck with that ! The word to learn is shared cooperation.
The 3rd and 1st world cant work together. The one has the ability to create prosperity and the other chaos and destruction. After 25 years we now have the last example in africa of what happens if you want africa to run a country.
you hit the nail on the head, i agree completely.
In Mozambique we are not racists. Live free you are welcomed. We forgive and let it go.
Are you a fool do you want a repeat of slavery or apartheid those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it yes we Africans are not racist but remember they are
No tf they aren’t! In a few decades these ppl u invited soon will rewrite history saying Africa was white.
They must be quite a tough bunch, I would hate it.
Force to boers
Nicolaas Jordaan lol yiu such a poop
Hopefully these farmers keep going on and bring some light where it's required
White South Africans are African in nature and should embrace their fellow brothers and sisters. For far too long you have seen yourself as superior, in charge and seeking out the best opportunities. Grow up and accept that democracy needs to prevail.
They are not Africans nor Afrikans and they never will be. They are European crusaders.
@@kimkardashian6149 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Stick to what you know best, but first work out what that is. The crusaders went to the middle east, not Africa. Did you mean colonialists sweetheart?
They dont see themselves as superior and never did, they just wanted to develop their own culture and land, the bantu flocked to them when they saw all the good things they had, the Boer would have been quite happy to have been left alone. I'm not a Boer before you try that one in your next reply. The superiority comes from the bantu side, you just have to read the comments where they stop just short of creating the universe.
The proof is already there for anyone to see in Orania, all Afrikaner, not one bantu, they do everything themselves and are thriving. Of course the government is planning to take that too.
@@susanm8669Remind me who asked for land to the zulus in 1836?
Big gift for the farmers! Never been done before!
God Bless them the pure honest Afrikaaner boers.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Great Men. Rossia needs Boer farmers.
You can have them all.
I'm just wonder why they settle down there even though their original motherlands already granted independence to African countries....I'm from Myanmar and British colonized mine....They just depleted the country's economic during their century long rule but they didn't touch the religion or cultural assimilation , they didn't even bother to settle here too .....when they gave independence, they all got out of our country except a few Anglo-Burmese ( mixed people like my family ) remained and we either adopted the Burmese culture by getting trace of British ancestry in a generation or two after the British left.
Mozambique should pay for education of their youth in Europe , so they will know how to work their land...
And you believe they will learn about work & self sufficiency in EUROPE?
Africans leave Africa to become German, British, Swedish, Norweigon, French, American, and just lately even Irish ,
Boers had their 1st anti-colonial freedom struggle against the Dutch in 1795 on the Cape frontier. Those that trekked inland were called Trekboers. They trekked to escape the oppressive British & Dutch rulers. Boers never killed the natives during the 2nd Boer war! The Boer wars had absolutely nothing to do with any Bantu people lol Boer wars were between the Boer & the British & you say i`m unbelievable & misinformed. Must I tell you about the Boer war ? Learn some history before commenting man
Gov wants them in because they know having actual working farms is good for the nation.
the locals resent them for what they cannot do.
All That They Farm Goes To Europe, And They Send The Rotten Left Overs Back To AFRICA ! And The AFRICAN People Were Farming Their Land, Before They Even Got There ! And Still Are ,All They Do Is Get AFRICAN MEN To Do The Farming . While They Look Over The Land And Tell Them What To Do And Fake For The CAMERAS !!! And By The Way All The AFRICAN Markets Have Fresh Fruits And Vegetables That Comes From Their Farms !!! DEMON
ricardo i never said anything racist about the boers, simply that they built south africa using slave labour and that they are not indispensible to Africa. Africa is not just SA... and that all southern african countries are developing even though they dont have boers. Happily developing without having to be treated like second class citizens in their own countries.
Sub-titles would be a good idea in this vid.
Mozambique Area: 901,914 sq miles
Difference from the real world.
Mozambique has a 1,5 and 10 Metical banknotes.
Mozambique has all of Madagascar and Tanzania.
The Islamic Insurgency of Cabo Delago didn't happen.
Electric shortages don't happen either.
I want to see what would happen if all the 16,000 South Africans in Georgia and Russia lives in Mozambique to stay close to their native country their children grow up in the wilds and remote areas of Mozambique earning more money having a than they would have in Georgia and Russia and have a very high birthrate.
I would love to see a documentary series about this story from 1990 to the present day.
It sounds so much fun.
I do understand why a certain group of people emphesis their presence in Africa and yet continue to live in isolation from the rest of us.
@ livhu mbuwe
I from the Caribbean, a little island named Guadeloupe, we have the same white people here, since 1600 and after. They live in the campaign, speak creole as us, some of them are also poor as us, but they are white and consider themselves as superior. No contact, no marriage with blacks, they keep their blood pure. Just a little community,
Degenerated because of consanguine marriage.
Lorelei Haart than live in your Country than not in Africa
livhu Mbubuwe dont be a hypocrite Do you see ZULUS and XHOSAS hanging out together as homies without the axes and machettes comin out boo GET REAL DUDE!
@Maha janga Mohamed Ali was black, lived in USA not Africa, yet he said, what's wrong with wanting to be with your own, I want my kids to look like me, not sone other race.
So wake up before you talk fork tongue shit. It's natural, crows with crows, ducks with ducks. Problem is damn liberals want to mix it all up and non whites that marry whites suddenly think they are better than their countrymen. Like keeping a white wife as a trophy. The you end up with frey kids that dnt fit into society, they not sure what their culture is... End up as confused misfits.
Why do you want us to mix and loose out ability to create prosperity. Your aim is to drag us to your level as that is the culture in africa.
Going to Mozambique to DISCOVER the country and its people?
Yeah, discover something that was already there
As long as they don't practice racists ways. And be respectful things can work out
Amen 🙏🙏🙏
racism is rule
Boer originated from the White German, Frisian & Danish servants the VOC dumped at the Cape. These servants were forcefully removed from their home countries which is why the Boer cannot be a colonial power. These groups later amalgamated with the French Huguenots refugees who were sent to the Cape during their attempts at escaping political & religious persecution back in France. Boers developed from the poorest segment of this amalgamated group who left the West Cape in the late 1600s to 1700s
Surely Holland should take back some of the Africaners. Holland is their ancestral homeland. Holland must accept responsibility for their own people .
RIGHT! and he says Indigenous....
@Whizper2me Yet I see no Melanin or other superficial qualities of African peoples, not even a hint...Europeans have 0.02 African Genes too doesn't mean they're indigenous
We cannot reward apartheid like that..we want our land back!!
I was thinking about feeling sorry for the Caucasian people in SA or Africa but I can't. Why because you know this day was coming. Did you think that the sleeping giants of Africa was going to sleep forever. Nice try.
I don't feel sorry for any white person chickens coming home to roost....
Out of the frying pan into the fire
LA PATAGONIA USHUAIA ANTARTIDA
Meaning anyone with blue eyes has white european ancestry.
Please add captions!
Where the Boer goes the local communities will follow. Moz is a wonderful country. We have friend'ms and enemies there.
All I can do is tell the Mozambican bros the Afrikaners are good at working the soil I can see them prospering from the know how's of commercial farming in time they'll build hospitals, schools and infrastructure around their farms and that means jobs and stable life and education for their children plse have patience your govt is on the right track and its your duty to support it don't be like your neighbours they destroyed their economies by taking land and chasing away even their black brothers and the nations who once were bread baskets of the continent now can't even feed it's people, soo sad the start is hard but when things start to move you'll appreciate your timely decision and please remember the color of the skin is not an issue this people are professionals and they are Africans .
@ Muhidi Aden...This is a new Age and dispensation...
How can a desperate Land less vagabond state less Land grabber have any Surplus Financial muscle to put up Social welfare infrastructure...
These people don't offer Charity like church missionary...
The are Selfish business people...out to make Africans workers poorer than the wretched of Bihar India..
The Boer Farmers should go to Ukraine, Belarus, Caucasus and Soviet states and try there..
Africa doesn't need Supremacist.
Not enough evidence because the police didnt look for evidence
exodus of the boer.. sad to think that their ancestors did the same to live and cultivate the land.. its like your own country deporting its citizens, its their loss.. harvest your own greed
We didn't ask to come here, so we don't have to go any-damn-where. Why don't you go back to Europe?
Love,
Black People
Unfortunately, this is a widely spread misconception. Have you never heard of the Khoisan, the Indegenous people of Southern Africa? Even the bantu-speaking nations were present in the area of South Africa hundreds of years before any European settlers. Throw away your apartheid-era history book and deal with the proper facts, even if they don't fit into your anti-black attitude.
Deuteronomy 32:8 When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.
just imagine 4000 hectares of land owned by one person while the black masses don't even have a backyard gardening piece of land
That's right. it's hard but find new land without such turmoil .
I don't think he understands the term "Indigenous" at all.
Now you should agree that your forefathers have messed up by illtreating Africans in their native country. And its amazing how you guys move from one black country to another. Why not try Holland for a change?
It's been 28 years and nothing is better. Victim mentality