Picking the GREATEST XI from the last 30 years of cricket! | Battle Of The Eras
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Rob Key & Nasser Hussain select a combined XI from the 22 players who featured in last week's virtual Test - which was a clash between players from the first 15 years of cricket on Sky & those from the most recent 15 years.
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Rob Key trying to compare Ben Stores to Kallis is literately the funniest thing I have seen on UA-cam lately.
Stokes is more impactful and more genius, winning ashes tests single handedly is a height that Kallis never rose to. He is the averages king but those of us who watched never wanted to see him play and you simply have to acknowledge when a player has a reputation for playing for his average
@@HkFinn83 Granted if you just look at him from a point of view that his average where great then your point is very impactful.
Having grown up in South Africa and noticing how difficult it is to bat(Maybe I am just a mug lol) around these parts.
Add the fact most foreign supporters forget or perhaps don't know about the 1st 10 years Kallis Started playing for the proteas.
Where he bated 3 with a limited Gray Kirsten and a young Herschel Gibbs(who was notorious for throwing away his wicket) opening.
If he got out cheaply, behind him was basically all rounders or a flavour of the month number 4.
Poor guy only scored a 200 when he had Amla before him and AB after him, where he knew if he got out it wouldn't be a 120 all out situation.
And someone who followed cricket would say "Brain Lara wasn't exactly batting with genius's around his 400 odd knock".
Which I would answer, when that great cricketer start he was batting in a brilliant team.
@@musandlala7991 Love your reply and South Africa, but you can't think batting in South Afruca is harder than England on its green seemers with the dukes ball and an overcast sky?
I agree
He is comparing a number 6 with a number 3.
I can't really describe the physical pain I felt when they compared Kallis with Stokes.
Y is it so bad?
Stokes is an impact player, kallis just won SA bilateral series. Stokes won them a world Cup.
@iONiT stokes won them a world Cup, kallis never did. Only that matters in the long run.
@@senpai1628 lol who is talking about odi
I can't really describe the pain I felt when they compared kohli and Tendulkar.
I'm English and I'd take Kallis over Stokes any day of the week, that hurt. Glad level heads prevailed and Kallis got the spot.
Ben Stokes guided England to 2 limited overs World Cup Titles :
ODI World Cup 2019.
T20 World Cup 2022.
No doubt Kallis was a great all-rounder, probably the best there ever was , but how many World Cups did Kallis win for his team?
@@mansooriqbal5254winning games is a team sport. Compare the players, kallis is 10x better
Kallis is the greatest allrounder period, Stokes for what's he's done could come close but will never beat Kallis
If your all-rounder is batting 6 I'd pick Stokes over Kallis. Stokes is a slightly better bowler in my opinion, at 6 you want someone who can play that counter attacking innings and bat with the tail, Kallis spent his career as an orthodox number 4. Would you back Kallis to do what Stokes did at Headingley with the number 11?
I don't say any of this to make the case for Stokes as a greater cricketer than Kallis, Kallis is in the top three cricketers of all time.
@@joshforde698 Right
Sobers is the greatest all rounder
@@StopTheRot Stokes would need to average 71 over 129 innings for that to happen.
Agreed Stokes for 6.... But Kallis is better than stokes
13289 Test runs, 45 Test centuries, 292 Test Wickets, 200 catches, played against some of the best Test bowlers of all time. Batting average greater than Sachin's, bowling average as good as one time Indian pace spearhead Zaheer Khan and almost as many catches as Rahul Dravid the Test fielder. This in itself elevates Jacques Kallis to the position of the greatest cricketer to ever have played the game. When you also consider his ODI record (11579 runs, 44 batting average, 272 wickets, 130 catches), the only question which remains is how a human being achieved all this. If and not when (because it won't happen) Ben Stokes gets even remotely close to these figures, then compare him to Kallis, but not now. No way. It is offensive to consider Stokes anywhere close to Kallis right now.
but no one thinks he is, never mind
@@andychinn3671 Nasser Hussain did.
Ahh but it’s also about where and how you get the runs and whether it’s in a winning cause?
That cricketer was Sobers.
As regards stats, Stokes had better stats for the same number of tests.
In terms of match winning,
WC final winner, one of the greatest test innings of all time and better than any Kallis has played.
He can bowl 90+ miles an hour and reverse swing (Kallis can’t do that). He has changed many more games already. Not English, but at that 6, it’s a debate and probably Stokes.
@@bhavikmerchant920 both are different kind of players .....kallis is the consistent one that you always rely on and stokes is the one that won't work 8 out of 10 times but when he does....he pulls off almost anything.... so its a fair comparison and better to be consistent than just waiting for that one match....helps the team a lot more
@@andychinn3671 there's an interview of Mike Hussey where he said that everytime the topic of the gretest cricketer came up in the Aussie dressing room, Kallis was always the unanimous choice.
most cricketers would agree with that assertion.
Kallis is the GOAT. And I don't like him particularly as a batsman or a bowler. But you can't escape facts.
Please don’t ever compare Stokes with Kallis again 😐
Agree. Should only compare when he's retired from cricket.
But in no 6 stokes is better than Kallis(batting skills ) ...if Kallis is too good than put him in no 3 in place of sanga or punter ..not in no 6 ..bcz he is not a no6 Batsman ..make a team according to their batting position ..
Not even negatively? Okay.
they were comparing for the position of batting at 6, there's definitely an argument for Stokes batting at 6 over Kallis. Any higher up the orders 100% Kallis but for an allrounder at 6... Stokes is definitely a good option.
Ikr, let's compare 13000 plus test runs with barely 4000, I mean, does that sound logical to anyone
Wasim Akram fits in in all ex cricketers world 11
What a legend he was
Wasim made his Test debut in 1985 - and so played many of his best years prior to the (admittedly artificial) selection span used here.
He was undoubtedly a great, but in an all-time eleven, he would lose out to Garfield Sobers.
@lomax343 , there is no comparison as both had different roles. Sobers with a batting average of 57 would walk into any team as a pure batsman and he was an allrounder but if you want a bowler than Akram was way better , probably the best left armer of all times. Also batting Sobers at 7,8 where Akram batted would be the most insane thing imaginable
@@lomax343 Most likely Kallis is the one who will lose out to Sobers. Wasim makes it to everyone's XI because he is easily the greatest left arm fast bowler of all time, and makes for a great bowling all-rounder. He also could swing it better than anyone who has ever played the game, before or after him. Perfect number 8. Sobers would bat at 6.
The Stokes/Kallis debate is so absurd that it almost makes the Cummins/Akram debate reasonable by comparison.
LMAO.
Next thing you know they will compare ponting with root haha
@@bhaskarbhasku2921 Atleast the averages with those 2 are similar
@@bhaskarbhasku2921 actually root and Ricky are pretty close
cummins akram/mcgrath is still feasible. cummins can take 500 test wickets. stokes will score at max 8000 test runs and 300 wickets.
Please never put Stokes against Kallis again. There is no comparison. Kallis is superior by far!
same with the Sachin Virat comparison like not even at limited overs, it's just pleasing young kids with this much punditry
Given the strength of the whole team, I’d take Stokes over Kallis for his match winning capabilities. But there is no denying Kallis is the superior cricketer.
Chirag Rawat Saying not even at limited overs shows your clear bias. Kohli is a superior player to Sachin.
Stokes has had a great 12 to 18 months... Kallis has had an actual great career.. There's no comparison
Asian fans would say Kallis because they don't like the English HA HA.
It physically hurts to hear them compare Stokes to Kallis
Stokes could easy finish with better career he has more iconic moments
Dan Edwards hes 29 and still doesn’t have half the numbers Kallis does. I don’t see this happening.
@@danedwadd62 dude, Kallis averaged 55 at the end of his career. Does Stokes even average over 50+?
Kallis will always have better stats than Stokes. He has better stats than virtually anyone who has played the game. But...
Stokes is more exciting and better to watch. I know Kallis always put the team first, but he was actually quite a dull plodding batsman. He lost a few ODIs for South African with his slow scoring. I know whose career highlights real I'd rather watch.
Uppernorwood who are you, again?
7:17 cummins or akram? Are you guys serious 😂
That made me laugh too!
Cummins is just an upcoming cricketer... He has to see much more cricket... His comparison is nothing in front of great Wasim Akram... This is just australian dominated side... Sangakkara will be far better to Gilchrist, similarly Rahul Dravid ahead of Ponting... But it's their choice because they are cricketers too...😄
Cummins have the ability to take 400 atleast in cricket or more
@@ravijaybhaye1793 I agree that Sanga is a better batsman than Glichrist. No debate there. Depends what you're looking for though. For test, there's no debate, Sanga easily though. For ODI though, I'd take Gilly. He's better behind the stumps and adds more aggression to the lineup....
I'd also take Ponting over Dravid. That's a close one, but Ponting has the edge for me. I just think he's a more complete batsman.
@@hasanayn95 agree... But for test cricket Dravid over ponting... He has scored in all parts of the world...
Andy Flower , everyone tends to forget him, i thought Curtley Ambrose would've managed to get into this team.
Or courtney walsh. I would have walsh and ambrose murali and akram
Open with Gavaskar and jaisurya
Then dravid and tendulkar
Lara at five kallis at six
Gilchrist keeper
Ambrose before steyn and mcgrath anyday
Andy Flower was good the problem was my country had a lot of political and economic problems which made us not to play a lot of test cricket
Nasser suggesting that Stokes may finish his career with similar stats to Kallis is just insane. He may come close to Kallis the bowler..maybe, but not Kallis the batsman.
Absolutely !!
Rob key even thought of playing him over Kallis 😂
Stokes stats are better than kallis when he had played as much matches as Stokes
Don’t get me wrong, Kallis is one of the best ever, but even he would’ve struggled to do what Stokes did against Aus at Headingley.
@@dr.schlansky7314 that was one time thing...Its like saying Steve Smith is inferior to VVS Laxman cz he hasn't played a 281 innings.
It's not even comparable mates.
Kallis was a proper frontline batsman.
Stokes as nasser said is a number 6.
You're never gonna have a batting statistics like a number 3 if you're batting at number 6,. Look at what happened to VVS
Kallis is consistent reliable player. Stokes is just a match winner. He's not gonna give you consistency
This was awesome! Yes, Stokes could be an all-time great, but I think a telling stat is that Kallis has 23 man-of-the-match awards in Test cricket. The most for ANY player in history. In sides that boasted Donald, Pollock, Ntini, Steyn, Smith, Amla, de Villiers etc. That says a lot about his match-winning ability. Stokes currently has 8 man-of-the-match awards, but his career is still young.
Both are quite different.... kallis is a really consistent player while stokes fails in many but when he does worl he can pull off almost impossible looking tasks
Saitama I’d rather take someone who plays consistently over someone who comes great once in 10 games.
Stokes or Kallis oh please. Similar bowling stats and Kallis averages 20 more with the bat from a way longer period, they're taking the piss.
I literally bursted out with same response as you did! Literally no comparison at this moment. Kallis all the way
@G H why do you want to win single-handedly? Perera won match single handedly vs SA. Will you consider him in xi? No. A consistent career is invaluable compared to a 1 in 10 match winning innings.
@G H only if u take these 2 yrs. Why not klusener? 3-4 Stokes type match winners performed miracles for their teams in the 90s for 7+ yrs. Ben stokes Is unique only post 2002. Maybe that's why people choose him. Kallis has only Sobers for company from all times. People have very short memories.
@G H so. You don't make a team based on historic events only. One person cannot take someone to finals. Just because stokes won wc final u take him in ur team? Things could have gone wrong so easily.
Kallis team never performed well enough to reach finals. You cannot put that against him. That is why teams are selected based on consistent performances and not miracles where luck was involved no matter how brilliant the innings was.
You are making an emotional selection, like choosing a dream11 team. Your reaction 'world Cup finaaaalllllllllll' says it all. You are putting too much emphasis on the occasion. No selector worth his grain of salt will do that especially based on just one final. It's very unlikely u will choose the same team 10 yrs down the line.
The impact of recent memory is very great, especially because there hasn't been anyone like stokes for nearly 2 decades. That is why he is special in today's times.
@G H Perera and Haddin I see. Maybe you will include Mendis as match winner as well then. I will always back consistent players over miracle makers who are inconsistent. If your inconsistent team wins consistently, so be it.
I wish Ambrose got more of a mention, an absolutely terrifying fast bowler
Imagine Ambrose and McGrath sharing the new ball in tests. They would probably bowl one half volley every year or two and that too out of pity for the poor batsmen.
AMBROSE RELIED ON HIS HEIGHT AND BOUNCE THAN VARIATIONS. A GREAT HIMSELF BUT THERE IS WALSH WHO IS AS GOOD AND PERHAPS BETTER.
BOTH CANT BE PUT ABOVE MARSHALL.
ALL TIME GREAT: MARSHAL,AKRAM,MCGRATH/LILLIE/TRUMAN,ANY OF THOSE ALL ROUNDERS( THEY COULD ALL BOWL YOU KNOW) AND ANDERSON!
@@king_has_no_clothskul8635 All time great Marshall, McGrath, Wasim and Steyn. Honourable mention:Ambrose.
@@aritraghosh8986 AMBROSE+WALSH ARE UP THERE WITH THE BEST. then there was JOEL GARNER and MICHEAL HOLDING. THEY ARE ALL UP THERE WITH THE BEST!
@@king_has_no_clothskul8635 Maybe I have not seen much of garner and holding. I named the bowlers whom I saw.
Why does Rob Key look fitter and younger then he did when he played for England?
Because he has been on hospital food recently!
He’s Benjamin Button
He had a dad bod in his early 20s😂
its the camera
in australia i remember him being fat and sunburnt the entire tour in 2002/03..doing his first tour against the best in oven like heat wouldn't of helped him lol
It's blasphemous that they were even trying to make the Stokes/Kallis discussion even debatable. I understand they're English but come on, that is ridiculous. This is just utter bias and prisoner of the moment stuff.
Nasser had the nerve to say Stokes will finish his career with stats close to Kallis??? Maybe bowling yes, but Kallis's batting is in the conversation of the greatest batters in the history of the game - he wasn't just "great for an allrounder".
matubaM bro the nerve right
Maybe. But they're presenters and they've got to fill 60 minutes, and while Kallis is infinitely better than Stokes, its interesting to contrast them as players and characters, and I'm not sure I could name a better all-rounder in the past 30 years who isnt Kallis than Stokes...
Stokes stats are better than kallis when he had played as much matches as Stokes
@@prakharpratapsingh6414 shut up bro, stokes better than kaklis at bowling overall even if stats don't say it but kaklis was born a legend batsmen
@@adambradbury906 Flintoff, Klusener maybe. I said maybe because this raises a discussion between these 3. Two things common between them - They were match winners and they were inconsistent. They might step up to the occasion every 10th Match, but they are mediocre between those performances. That's why batting and bowling avgs respected, they are the indicators of consistency. Hence Kallis was the greatest all-rounder in the last 30yrs. He was always the main batsman of the team and 3rd or 4th best bowler. Also keep in mind SA has Donald, Pollock, Ntini, Steyn, Philander, Morkel, so Kallis picked wickets even as a supporting act.
Sangakkara should be in that side. Seriously good player and a higher average than all of the top six
This is a joke seriously
This is rest of the world 11 mate 😄😄
Yep you are right,this is all time freinds
Yeha but then it would be 3 left handers in a row. In a test that would give too much comfort to the fast bowlers.
Sangakkara padded his stats up against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. Additionally Sri Lanka and Pakistan played countless series on concrete pitches so sangakkara and Younis Khan could boost their stats
Muralidharan, Dravid & Sangakkara were missed.
Sangakkara was mentioned alongside Ricky for number 3.
@@imakonkonvicted only mentioned my foot sangakkara
Murali can be understood not being taken because there are so many good players that you can't fit all. Warne provides an additional batting advantage than Murali and is a legendary spinner.
Dravid doesn't make the 2nd XI
@@louquay Lol sure. 4th most runs scored most catches in tests, 10th most runs scored in ODIs despite not playing ODI cricket for the last 4-5 years of his career.
Not even mentioning Dravid for no. 3, he's the third highest run scorer in test cricket🤨
@sanket korde south indian? Usne south indian kaha bola be
No he's fourth after
Tendulkar
Pointing
Kallis
@@SK-jp3hq sorry, but he's just a few runs behind ponting
@@kartikshrivastava6233
Get your facts right
@@SK-jp3hq ok
Never in a million years, I would pick kohli over sachin and smith over Lara. Lara and sachin played some of the lethal bowling attacks in history. Modern game has become more batsman friendly and it's a tough time to be a bowler.
Sachin and Lara over Kohli and Smith anyday
Batting in the last 5 years has been very difficult. Smith in Ashes 2019 is the greatest batting performance in history.
Ralph R but bowlers were rubbish these bowlers are not even 2% of legendary bowlers like wasim waqar Glenn mcgrath Allan donald and wi fast bowlers
Smith better than lara and sachin
@@ralphr3512 what? There are flat decks in Australia
Smith and Kohli faced better attacks lol
I just discovered this channel because of the Ashes in Australia and I'm now watching some of these great, older conversations.
Just wonderful 😊
Andy Flower....you are in our thoughts. Legend ✊🏾🇿🇼
Rob, so happpy to see you back from the stroke, Great that you recover and doing so well.
I hope this is very recent podcast
Speaking of strike rate, bowling average etc, how can you leave out the great Sir Curtly Ambrose? His bowling average is 20.99 only after Malcom Marshall and 400 plus wickets.
statistically, Kallis = Dravid + Zaheer Khan. He is peerless! By far the greatest all-rounder to play the game (especially in tests)
I am so sorry why the inclusion of Kallis is being discussed here. He's actually an alien because what he's done is humanly impossible
Ben Stokes guided England to 2 limited overs World Cup Titles :
ODI World Cup 2019.
T20 World Cup 2022.
No doubt Kallis was a great all-rounder, probably the best there ever was , but how many World Cups did Kallis win for his team?
Nasser keeps saying Lara scored 401. I think he's blocked that innings from his memory bank.
@@petere1060 he has won countless games for the windies over the years
@@gorillachamp5271 Countless? Go and look up the meaning of countless
That was a draw
Stokes similar stats to Kallis in the future...never gonna happen.
It's insane that 5 of them are from Australia who used to play at the same time! Oh, that mighty team!!!
Probably the best Australian team of all time australia famous for struggling outside of Australia won the ashes over here with that team in 01 and no Aussie team has done it since tells you how good that team was especially when you realised in their twilight years of 05 they almost beat probably the best or 2nd best England team ever
Yes. That's why we 90s fans rate Indian performance in 2003 world cup so highly. That Aussie side was unbeatable. The batting line up never ended - it was like taking on a team where everyone was in beast mode.
If they batted first, they would score 300+ (which was huge back then), and if they batted second they would rarely chase over 200. And that's because if McGrath was playing, good chance he would wrap your top order up in a big game. Oh then you had Warne, who was basically unplayable everywhere outside the subcontinent. Supported by Gillespie and Lee and Fleming - all deadly bowlers on their day. The bench were blokes like Brad Hogg, Nathan Bracken, Bichel.
And at any time, 3 in the top order could bowl some useful overs. And their fielding was only second to South Africa, and far ahead of everyone else (other than NZ).
Warne and Gilchrist probably in best World 11 of All Time. The other 3 will also give it a good run.
Good to see you're up and about and feeling better, Rob. All the best mate.
Cant believe Nasser and Rob are even debating Sachin’s greatness over Virat. The guy dominated world class bowling attacks for 20 years (minus his last 3-4 years)! Virat can’t come close even in ODIs.
I disagree. In ODIs, Sachin in his prime was inferior batsman to out of form Kohli. I don't mean stroke making, I mean batting in general. Reliability, Consistency and Match Winning ability.
@Ginger Scholes 😂😂Joke
Kohli is all time great ODI batsmen ever
@@RP-kr2mgKohli is odi great. And Sachin is test great
Hayden and Sehwag struggled in England. GRAEME SMITH IS THE BEST OPENER
Do you think Cricket means Only England???😂😂😂 Grame Smith Was a Big Failure in India..Sehwag and Hayden are far better than shitty Smith😂
warne and murali are #1 and 2 spinners of all time, but warne is the greatest bowler of all time. warne: 708 test wickets, murali 800. wickets vs zimbabwe and bangladesh (the whipping boys of test cricket): warne: 17, murali: 176. that should put that argument to bed.
Just imagine if he from same era as Richards, Greenidge ,Haynes , Lloyd, kallicharan, Kanhai Holding,Garner Roberts,Daniel , Gavaskar ,Lillee and Thompson ,Hadlee ,Imran ,Kapil Dev,Rice,Proctor etc . The Greatest complete player ever !!!
It will be interesting to see the match between this two teams
1. many people forget that McGrath in his first Test Series against the WI bowled in the 140s - he then realised he could be more effective strangling batsmen and bowling 10kmh slower
2. the slips cordon for Australia definitely helped their bowlers…..Taylor at 1st, Warne at 2nd, M Waugh at 3rd, Hayden at gully…….if they had a 4th slip - Ponting
Kumar Sangakkara with 12,400 runs at 57.40?
He also left Dravid ffs
I loved the way Rob Keys refusing to answer who his preferred spinner would be and Nasser not letting him off the hook.
Nice to see Rob Key back after his stroke, top man
Love watching these videos they make
That was a great podcast men, it’s so difficult to pick the best of sides in Amy sport. I think you got that side just about right.
1. V Richards
2. V Sehwag
3. R Ponting
4. S Tendulkar
5. J Kallis
6. K Sangakara
7. A Flintoff
8. S Warne
9. W Akram
10. M Marshall
11. G McGrath.
No rahul dravid is expected, underrated as always.
@@SuperBeckham99 Actually i would also prefer Rahul Dravid over Sachin... but Sachin's numbers don't allow me to do so...
Lara should be there
Let's see all 3 guys have a draft of the best players. That could have some fun results.
Kallis is a contender for the greatest cricketer of all time . Ben Stokes has a long Way to go before he reaches that .
This is lovely stimulating discussion for a cricket fan!
Hear that high praise from Hussain and level of respect to Warne called him the best bowler of all time!
Now make 2nd best XI and have a virtual test match. Because I think this might be very very interesting. And I think 2nd best XI will win.
Agree
Haha...Zaheer and Anderson pick themselves to play against G.Smith and Sachin. Bhajji or Kumble against Ponting. Gillespie for his batting!!
Lol...must be kohli fan
Instead of bhajji I'll go for muralidharan.
And steve waugh will captain the side with Dravid at 3 and Sehwag to open with Cook. Then to neutralize warne VVS at 5. That means no kohli. For keeping AB might be a good choice. And for all rounder any suggestions?
Bhumrah is a good option for third seamer or Lee or Akthar
@@ajinkyawaghavkar I'd pick Sangakara for keeping and Jonty for an all-rounder
No dravid ?????
Dravid loved to go camping at the wicket. I use to pray for him to get out against the WI, but comfortable with this XI.
@intelligent boy in my opinion dravid is far better than sachin in tests
@intelligent boy he has won matches overseas for india everytime especially in SENA countries, whereas sachin was always poor, he didn't ever have an intention of winning.
Max batting average of Stokes at the end of his career is 50,probs something between 40-45. No contest right now between him and Kallis, he is great though and getting better
Sangakkara Vs ponting....that's a tough one and you can't go wrong with either one but I would have gone with Sanga because of the additional brilliant wicket keeper capabilities.
Ponting was absolute magic when on song. One of the players you feared and had nightmares about leading into a game. An out-and-out match winner. Ponting's skills as a captain provides for more than Sangakkara could with the gloves. Ponting was the most complete fieldsman the game has seen, and could turn the game with a moment of brilliance in the field. Overall Ponting, like Kallis brought a whole lot of things to the table and should be an automatic selection every day of the week.
@@arjunarora1072 Yup could have had a discussion about who would captain this side. Smith or Ponting.
@@rushpan93 @rushpan93 Ponting every day of the week considering his phenomenal record as a captain and the fact that the team is filled with absolute giants of the game whose egos he could manage far easier than Smith.
@arjunarora1072 Well maybe. But you could make the argument that he wasn't as effective when Australia lost some of those legends. Smith was cleverer if nothing else.
Ricky Ponting was an outstanding batsmen and a joy to watch but he struggled on Sub-continental pitches. Dravid was a better no.3 and he should have been included in place of Ponting.
Ponting only struggled in India first see his stats in Sri Lanka Bangladesh and Pakistan and see dravids stats in South Africa and Sri lanka
Dravid was very good probably a better test batsman than Ponting but in ODIS I think Ponting has a clear upper hand.
Also Dravid was a little underrated partly because back in the day we were filled with a star batting lineup. Everyone from the batting lineup were legendary and Sachin was celebrated as God.
@David just like Indians who will describe Sachin as god of cricket instead of the fact he was Anderson and magrath bunny and they rate dravid over ponting by saying ponting had bad record in India but forget dravids record in South Africa and Sri Lanka just crying babies
@@aritraghosh8986 so what Australia still had a better line up still ponting was best
A better matchup would be 70s80s vs 90s00s in test.
Off the top of my head, a 70-80s XI would be ridiculous... Even without spinners.
Greenidge
Gavaskar
Border
Viv Richards
Miandad
Dujon
Imran Khan
Richard Hadlee
Dennis Lillee
Andy Roberts
Malcolm Marshall
You forgot Greg Chappel. Can push Imran down the order and remove Andy Roberts.
@@saqibsheikh2790 We want winners, not whiners. Roberts is anyday better than the most ridiculous Australian captain of all time.
We caught up with Rob Key on our radio show - list back to the chat on the "98 Not Out" UA-cam channel.
My team
1. Matthew Hayden
2. Graeme Smith (Vice Capt)
3. Ricky Ponting (Capt)
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Brian Lara
6. Jacques Kallis
7. Adam Gilchrist (WK)
8. Wasim Akram
9. Shane Warne
10. Muttiah Muralitharan
11. Glenn McGrath
Ambrose should have been there instead of Steyn.
For Warne vs Murli debate, it is Warne for Tests and Murali for ODIs...
Malcolm marshall should be there instead of all
First man picked always Warne. Incredible match winning weapon to have as the pitch ages. Before he gets his wickets he gives you quality in the slips and a cricket brain second to none. Most bowlers need to be hidden in the field. Greatest bowler i've seen. Next two picked always Gilchrist and Kallis for me. Both supply choice of playing an extra bat or bowler. Enormous advantages again without compromise on quality. The Lara Tendulkar Ponting trio is just a superb and classy combo to pick at 3to5. Flair and Class. Happy to alternate Sehwag with Hayden/Smith. Personally would luv to see Hayden batting alongside Sehwag but not fussed. Akram McGrath Marshall as the seamers.
Sir curtly Ambrose as one of the pacers surely probably him McGrath and Akram Warne has to be in Lara Ponting and Sachin as your top order is just stupidly good. Gilchrist has to keep. the openers are my only question marks I’d like to take Cook tbh as an opener
Tendulkar and kohli should never be compared. 51 test hundreds in test cricket . Youngest to 1k , 2k runs in test cricket, fastest to 7k and 10k runs in test cricket. Only to reach 15k runs in test cricket.
The guy was a prodigy to play for the national team at 16 . First 50 vs waqar and akram at 16 in Pakistan. First hundred in England at 17 . Another hundred at 18 in Australia. The guy was born to bat . Special Player .
Tendulkar is the best batsman of all time! Period.
@@vaibhavaggarwal4607 lol tendulkar is nothing but the longest playing batsmen who played for himself. Even in such a long career he hardly played great match winning innings. No comparision with Bradman,lara,Richards,Sobers etc.
Raj 205 have you seen Bradman, Richards, Sobers play? All these greats themselves have rated Tendulkar as the most complete batsman but you won’t even agree with them since you are blinded by your non existent knowledge of this game!
Just wanted to clarify that this list is not for comparison and it's just to show legends who have played/playing the game
Theyre questioning McGrath, His super tall frame had a lot to do with it also.
Why can't you pick the best 11 without having to please anybody or any country. Just honest stuff pls.
The banter between Nas and Key always cheers me up😄
Watching this a year later makes the Stokes comparison even more hilarious.
True😂😂
I cant believe McGrath didnt go straight into the team with Warne, I dont even see the debate.
McGrath also had Ambrose as a competitor to get in the side
Agreed. If anything, debate shud hv been for deciding between Steyn, Cummins n Anderson. Steyn goes in though in any case hands down between them. But still McGrath was something else
@@muzammilmohsin7259 I think Steyn, McGrath, and Akram should be automatic picks hands down. If anything, you can debate Warne or Murali.
@@nikunjdixit1175 My seam attack is Wasim, Ambrose, Steyn and Anderson. I back this up with Kallis (batting at 4), and I choose Murali for my spin option.
@@interestedbystander196 I definitely don't put Anderson over McGrath. Anderson is an excellent bowler but his record outside of England is not so hot, whereas McGrath had a superb record pretty much everywhere. I personally slightly prefer Warne over Murali and I might have chosen to play both if I had a fast bowling all rounder in Kallis. 3 seamers, 2 spinners, and Kallis as a fast bowling allrounder. It would be tough to leave out any of of Wasim, Ambrose, Steyn, or McGrath.
Cant really fault the team picked. I'd suggest to make a fair assessment, to pick a team to contest in seam friendly conditions, ie UK, SA, NZ, Aus and then a team for the subcontinent and West Indies. Ideally in subcontinent you would want 2 front line spinners, perhaps sacrificing a batsman.
They mentioned Steve Smith's leg spin but they forgot about Tendulkar's. Nice to have options.
Vs My Dream XI
1. Gary Kirsten
2. Hashim Amla
3. Rahul Dravid
4. Steve Waugh (C)
5. Shivnarine Chanderpaul
6. Kumar Sangakkara (W/K)
7. Shoiab Akhtar
8. Curtly Ambrose
9. Allan Donald
10. Muttiah Muralitharan
11. Courtney Walsh
Wasim akram v Cummins?
Am joke to you 😂😂😂😂
Agree! Was is a genius
So is Cummins
And his bowling avg is better than was even in this batting dominated era
@@ojasdighe991 statistically cummins better but skillwise no pace bowler come close to wasim akram....the most skillful fast bowler ever
Just for Fun...this will be my Greatest XI from past 30 years...
1. Cook
2. Graeme Smith (C)
3. Dravid
4. Sachin
5. Lara
6. Kallis
7. Gilchrist
8. Wasim Akram
9. Steyn
10. McGrath
11. Muralidharan
Good side, but Cook looks out of place there. Could've picked Hayden or Sehwag over him.
@@clayton896 Hayden was my first choice as well but then I remembered that Cook is the first English cricketer to score 10,000 plus runs in test cricket. Under him Eng also managed to win a test series in Ind which is a very difficult feat for any touring team. That's why I chose him. Having said that, Hayden was a great opener. He can definitely be in place of him. 👍
@@ayushraj131292 Being better than his countrymen does not make him a pick in the WORLD 11
Didn't expect to enjoy this as much as I did! I love this team think Graeme Smith and Hayden were phenomenal players, Ponting was my hero playing cricket as a child guy had the timing of God when he was on form, Sashin who can deny the mans greatness, Lara a bit before my time but watching clips he seems like a batsman from today with his strike play and when someone like Shane Warne says he is the best batsman he's ever bowled to well that says it all, Kallis arguably the greatest cricketer to ever play the game, Gilly what a phenomenal keeper and batsman (I like Mark Boucher as a wicket keeper but Gilly brings a bit more to the table), Shane Warne as I used to bowl leg break the admiration I have for this mans bowling can not be put into words, Wasim Akrim so unique and phenomenal undeniable, Dale Steyn is my personal favourite (and in my book the best fast bowler I have ever seen bowl) there are a few spells that come to mind Steyn vs Collingwood in England probably beat the outside edge for 5 overs straight in England and Steyn vs Haddin in South Africa sets him up with outswingers only to bowl middle stump out of the ground with an inswinger 4 balls later and all this at close to a 150kmh, he's bowled faster than 150kmh but mostly they were up in high to mid 140's, Glenn McGrath is text book was always putting on the pressure and could bowl on a coin for overs on end.
Now its 2023 and would I swap these guys out for the best players of today, I would say no. I will say though my team is based of test cricket not limited overs. I would also say I can see someone putting in Steve Smith, Ab de Villiers, Virat Kholi or Ben Stokes, Steve Smith is a batting machine but I don't know whether I would put him above any of the batsmen on the list, AB and Virat I feel are in such a league of their own when it comes to striking the ball, it is such a sight to see but again Ponting and Lara... Stokes, I'll say this its day 5 and my back is against the wall, I want Stokes to come in and bowl or bat, the guy never gives up and tbh he seems like he plays better the more pressure he has on him but again if you're only choosing on all-rounder very tough to leave out someone of Kallis's caliber.
I guess one thing to also consider is Sashin had Dravid, Smith had Kallis and Amla, Steyn had Morkel, Ntini, Philander, Shane had McGrath and Lee, Ponting had hayden, Hayden had Langer, also Hussey, Clarke, and Gilly... You know all of these players are phenomenal cricket players but it is a team sport and it's always easier to get wickets when your bowling partner is putting on the pressure and way easier to come in and bat when you have great players infront and behind you. Probably a golden age of cricket the turn of the millennium.
1. Hayden
2. Ponting (c)
3. Steve Smith
4. Tendulkar
5. Lara
6. Kallis
7. Sangakkara (wk)
8. Wasim Akram
9. Warne
10. Ambrose
11. McGrath
Kallis and Sobers are a particular godly like.
Stokes is more like the Kapil/Imran/Hadlee/Botham category.
Their batting stats are a lil in 30's compared to Kallis and Sobers 50's but their impact is probably so great.
The kind of summer Stokes has had.
World Cup final. Headingley test. The SA match.
He's setting himself in a Botham vs Stokes debate very nicely.
You are comparing Stocks with Imran and Hadlee and Botham, stock is nothing when compared with them.
In 166 Tests he should of taken at least 400 wickets to be considered a great allrounder. He's a batsmen who bowls a bit at Test level in ODIs great allrounder.
@@jahno7154 In fact Gary Sobers has bowling average of 34 and Kallis 32, they are not top class bowlers. Hadlee, Imran are top class bowlers with average of 22 and there batting is important even if it is of 27/37 average because runs are need from every player in the Xi while if you have 4-5 top class bowlers you dont need bowling of Sobers and Kallis. In fact Kallis and Sobers are top class batsmen but not allrounders in the true sense.
I find it genuinely sad how Waqar is never even mentioned...Waqar had the greatest strike rate ever till recently overtaken by Dale Steyn. At his peak 4 years Waqar Younes was statistically the greatest bowler who ever lived, even better than Sydney Barnes....and Waqar bowled on the slowish Subcontinent wickets most of his life at other times bowling in India, Sri lanka or the UAE. Truely sad.
Yeah Waqar was a nightmare
True that.
Wasim got ahead in wicket tally later in his career and that is why nobody picks him which is just dumb
There's an interview of Wasim's in Seattle where he was asked if Wasim the caption would pick Wasim the bowler or Waqar the bowler, if he could only have one, and he picked Waqar
Damn right, completely agree, waqar never gets a mention!
1. Hayden
2. Sangakarra/Gilchrist
3. Kohli (C)
4. Tendulkar
5. Lara
6. Kallis
7. Gilchrist 🧤 \Sangakarra
8. Wasim Akram
9. Warne
10. Ambrose
11. McGrath
Twelfth man: S.Smith
Backup bowlers:Muralitharan and Steyn
1st XI
Matthew Hayden
Graeme Smith
Brian Lara
Sachin Tendulkar
Ricky Ponting
Jacques Kallis
Adam Gilchrist (WK)
Shane Warne
Wasim Akram
Muttiah Muralitheran
Glen McGrath
2nd XI
Virender Shewag
Alistair Cook
Rahul Dravid
Virat Kholi
Steve Smith
Kumar Sangakkara (WK)
Ben Stokes
Shaun Pollock
Anil Kumble
James Anderson
Dale Steyn
That would be a match, I would love to see!!!
Graeme Smith over Shewag ... lol, you guys are complete bonkers. Sehwag's record as a test opener is unparalleled. It had to be Sehwag and Hayden.
He actually went for Left-Right combo for the opening pair.
Oh wait ..
Som Dutta picked Smith as one of the best away test openers , especially in England
this is not India 11, this is supposed to be World 11.... Graeme Smith any second over sehwag
Sehwag
Hayden
Ponting (c)
Tendulkar
Lara
Kallis
Gilchrist (wk)
Warne
Akram
McGrath
Garner
12th man: ABD
Garner doesn't qualify
Ambrose for Garner
do not keep abd as 12 th man...do not include him in 11 it;s ok..but 12 th man is an insult....bcoz when ability and skilled concerned all go pale to abd...only bradman and viv richards had such ability and skill and raw talent
Current test XI post 2010
1. Cook
2. Warner
3. Hashim Amla
4. Steve smith
5. Joe Root
6. Ab de Villiers (wk)
7. Dale steyn
8. Herath
9. Mitchell Johnson
10. Lyon
11. James anderson
My All time world xi.
Mathew hayden.
Alaister cook.
Ricky ponting c.
S.tendulker
B.lara.
J.kallis.
Adam gilchrist wk
Waseem akram.
Shane warne
G.mcgrath
James anderson.
Kallis Vs Stokes? 10k runs, almost 300 wkts against a potential? Kallis is the best all rounder ever.
Recency or English bias maybe
Says the with little cricket sense and judge players by numbers.
These dudes drunk or what, dude talk like born in yesterday
Ben Stokes guided England to 2 limited overs World Cup Titles :
ODI World Cup 2019.
T20 World Cup 2022.
No doubt Kallis was a great all-rounder, probably the best there ever was , but how many World Cups did Kallis win for his team?
Sangakara
Pointing
Sachin
Smith
Lara
Kallis
Devilliers
Akram
Warne
Steyn
McGrath
No Kohli?
King Slayer correct but ab is better batter than gilchrist
Love the banter
Sachin has 200 tests, around 400 ODIs, scored the first international 200 ever vs a great South African bowling lineup that included Steyn, and Sachin faced some of the best bowlers the game has ever seen (McGrath, Wasim, Waqar, Murali, Warne, Shoaib Akhtar, and the list goes on).
Muttiah Muralitharan was also so close
He chucked the ball so well. Just another sub continental cheat.
I have a problem when you judge Sachin by his stats. He is the prefect case when stats dont speak the complete truth about a batsman's talent and skills. Sachin was beyond numbers. He used the cricket bat better than anyone ever . His shots are just 99.99% perfect. Its only him who was as close to perfection as one could be. Talk about ability and not stats. And when you do that , Sachin vs Kohli debate will be settled for ever. Its Sachin always. Period.
Sachin in test and kohli in odi and t20.....as simple as that.... I don't know why people bother to talk about it
@@saitama2508 29-30 yrs old Sachin is better than 29-30 yrs old Kohli in any Format.
Interesting you say that, cause I've always felt his stats and longevity (sort of ) flatter him. I never feared Sachin when we played India like I fear(ed) Kohli, Smith, Lara. Perhaps cause he wasn't much of a match-winner (compared to the names I mentioned).
Hameer Ali good joke...u may not have feared but the greatest bowler of all time shane warne has gone on record to say sachin gave him nightmares!!.... whether its technique or stats or longevity or having faced the lethal bowlers of the 90s , Sachin is on a different league....incomparable!,
LoL 😂😂😂. Tendulkar is just about stats. Not a matchwinner ever! Just run accumulator. Kallis by the way was the rock of a strong sa team. And 275 test wickets bowling 140 kph. Greatest cricketer ever! In mordern era it's king Kohli. So take Tendulkar and shove him up your back LoL 😂😂😂😂
1. Mathew Hayden
2. Virender Sehwag
3. Ricky pointing
4.sachin Tendulkar
5. Brian Lara
6. Jacques kallis
7. Adam Gilchrist
8. Wasim Akram
9. Shane Warne
10. Courtney Ambrose
11. Glenn Mcgrath
nice team
Also waqar younis not mentioned. Bowled mostly on flat wickets yet had an incredible strike rate
11:59 thanks me later hahahahahahaha
Please don't compare Lara with Smith there is absolutely no comparison between him and Lara. Lara is pure class
It would be in eye test. But smith already surpassed lara if u take your bias. How can u be in 61+ average while playing against England,India and South Africa.
This is really tough.
Not yet watched the video, so here's my uninfluenced team:
1. Sangakkara
2. Graeme Smith
3. Ponting
4. Kallis
5. Lara _or_ Tendulkar
6. Stokes
7. Wasim
8. Anderson
9. Steyn
10. Ambrose
11. Muralitharan
12. Jonty Rhodes (fielding 12th man)
Ambrose over McGrath in my view.
Waqar over ambrose and mcgrath ,
My XI would be, (sorry my openers won't be regular openers but they r legends, can adjust)
Sangakkara
Dravid
Ponting(c)
Tendulkar
Lara
Kallis
Gilchrist(wk)
Wasim
Warne
Steyn
Mcgrath
Waqar was also phenomenally talented
Perfect
Ambrose is better than all those bowlers.
@@TheDPgamer pre 95 waqar was destructive but injuries got hold of him and he was never the same waqar again
Rob Key had to think so much about Stokes or Kallis? That's how you know how good Rob's opinion is.
I don't remember kallis playing a great innings like Stocks. And Sangakara for test keeper. Gilly was great but sanga more consistent behind and in front
I get Stokes had an amazing last 12 months. But to even compare him to kallis is a joke tbh.
Jacque kallis is the greatest cricketer to have played the game. His batting, bowling and fielding can be compared to the best in the world. The guy was just a freaking all around superstar!
Kallis with just his batting stats can walk into any world 11
Ben Stokes guided England to 2 limited overs World Cup Titles :
ODI World Cup 2019.
T20 World Cup 2022.
No doubt Kallis was a great all-rounder, probably the best there ever was , but how many World Cups did Kallis win for his team?
Stokes wins a game in the ashes and suddenly him and Kallis are a convo?
ASHES IS THE GREATEST TEST SERIES FOOL. AND THAT IS WHERE YOU PERFORM. I KNOW WI BOSSED AND INDIA VS PAK HAS INTENSITY BUT NOT IN TERMS OF ASHES.
BEN HAS WON LOT OF GAMES FOR ENGLAND ALREADY. MORE THAN KALLIS EVER DID WITH SA( THEY WON A LOT AFTER AMLA AND AD CAME TO THE FORE)
@@king_has_no_clothskul8635 after this comment I will disengage from speaking to you since you seem incapable of a cricket discussion without insulting others. Rahimakallah
@@wariocheats9701 whom did i insult you moron. strokes has won more games than kallis in half the time. who won the world cup for england( they have not won till 2020). unlike SA which has choked every-time.
I did not say kallis is not a great.
i said strokes is an outright match-winner and he has record to prove it.
jack kallis success is one series won in australia thats it. second time he was retired i think.
he is a run machine we all know that.
chandrapaul has same record as him and dravid. now chandrapaul is greater than lara or dravid?
get real.
MY ALL TIME BEST TEST TEAM :
Sunil Gavaskar 🇮🇳
Graeme Smith (c) 🇿🇦
Kumar Sangakkara 🇱🇰
Sachin Tendulkar 🇮🇳
Jacques Kallis 🇿🇦
Andrew Flintoff 🏴
Adam Gilchrist (w) 🇦🇺
Wasim Akram 🇵🇰
Shane Warne 🇦🇺
Muttiah Muralitharan 🇱🇰
Glenn McGrath 🇦🇺
I don't know why there was such a question around Kallis vs Stokes. Kallis in a heartbeat.