After the show the interview showed that Gene will miss the stage the lights the fans the reporters the fame the girls more than anything. He looked like someone who lost his memory and couldn't hold a thought he was clearly broken up and had not been ready for the last show to end.
I love KISS. They are my favorite band, and I couldn’t be any more disappointed with how they handled this. They didn’t even seem like they cared and then just plugged some stupid hologram show at the end. It didn’t even feel like an ending. Not to mention that they didn’t even talk about any past members.
Finally a level headed comment. I can't believe people are supporting Kiss not ending things! This hologram is so stupid! Not to mention The treatment towards Ace, Peter, and Bruce
Here’s one thing that AI and avatars can literally *never* replace. The first concert I saw was the Smashing Pumpkins on the Mellon Collie tour when I was a kid. The lights went out, the place erupted (which was almost panic-inducingly awesome) and there they were. The band I’d only seen on tv and listened to in my headphones. They were there to spend an evening with several thousand like-minded people from my area. There’s nothing like that, dude…I get that abba voyage was a crazy spectacle but it doesn’t beat the “all is right with the world” humanity of a unique live show, being played for YOU.
Not only that, but they didn’t even think to ask Peter Criss or Ace Frehley to be immortalised… I understand Tommy and Eric have been a part of it for over 2 decades but doing motion capture wit the original members would’ve been a much better decision at least
@@kevinshuping4679 Dude, you’re saying this on a *Kiss* related video for godsake. Casting aspersions on one of the more artful alternative bands to come along in the last 30 years while tacitly standing behind Paul Stanley going “ALRIGHT PEEPOLL *cough* ” for two hours…come on now…
@@davesmusicchannel3590 It doesn't really matter though, it's not Paul, Gene, Tommy and Eric, it's the Starchild, The Demon, The Spaceman and The Catman
Live shows are there for the experience, not for HD sound quality. I will never go to a show with avatars. I want musicians to be human, with real human emotions. It doesn’t have to be perfect for me.
If they aren’t retiring and they play another show I pray no one goes. They are stealing peoples money now . Literally! These guys never quit ! End of road tour for 30 years.
@@mickeyjohn2442 Great response lol, as the guy should have waited outside any KISS concert to see all the smiling and happy faces. KISS ARE FOREVER AND IMMORTAL !!!
We will still see video, vinyl and CD releases of the final tour. Limited editions etc. The fans have to keep funding their retirement ya know. This was a shell of what KISS used to be. Glad I saw them before the imposters joined.
not a huge kiss fan but your right about all the stuff they market, I don't feel it's Tommy or Eris fault, I think they should have had redesigned make up for them but they're good players
If you think back to what could have been your first purchased KISS album, KISS Alive, you have to acknowledge that it wasn't really a live album. When this information became public no one really freaked out because KISS was always about the attitude and spectacle versus artist integrity. The band wrote the book on live concert performances and this new era of KISS is geared more toward the fans of the future than the original KISS Army fans. I didn't care for any of the KISS avatar footage that I saw online but I do see in about 5 years or so a KISS tour that will be a combination of a rock concert, part Cirque du Soleil, part immersive video game. I won't attend because I'll always prefer having seen the real deal in concert but they'll definitely keep the franchise going for many years.
Some say it wasn't totally LIVE! Cause Gene had some words re recorded & enhanced & added other sounds Like the live crowd sounds But! Either iether way I still love Alive 1 I doobie do doo Haha 😁
I've been a big fan of theirs from the beginning and seeing them in concert for the first time in 1976 being dedicated and all along the way for 47 years and i have no interest in this. They will never be forgotten just like other famous musicians. I am a realist and think things are fine without this. I will not follow it.
When I think of Kiss I think of being a kid in the 70s looking at the album covers and cool halloween stuff at Kmart. Hard to believe people still like them.
I have been a KISS FAN 💋 from 1973-2023! My Uncle was a music 🎶 producer at A&M RECORDS HOLLYWOOD and knew Neal Bogart from Casablanca records. My Uncle introduced an 8 year old ME to Gene Simmons in late 1973.He scared the hell outta me ! I had nightmares for an entire year. The MUSIC is what bonds the fans to a band.KISS has outlasted most record companies! I am thankful I was allowed to be part of the inside of the inside of the recording music biz. Thank you Gene, Paul, Peter, Ace, Vinnie, Eric, Mark, Bruce,Tommy and Eric Singer. At age 58, you guys have left the ROCK in my Roll. Not really into the whole AI Avatars.I wanna ROCK, and that includes real live musicians.
If you were a member of the KISS Army there's NO way in hell you'd even for a second accept a wanker nobody in Thayer wearing the make up of one of 'the' most influential guitarists in rock history. Singer has been in this band 20 years - but when he donned Peter Criss's 'cat man' persona that was it - a fraud. The 'genuine' KISS Army checked out in their final show at the Olympics.
I was really proud of Kiss for finally doing something dignified for a change, thought we were witnessing something special, and then they drop a freakin Guitar Hero commercial on us… Lol I’ve always probably given them a little more credit than I should have, but after seeing that, I’m done. I got my records. I’ll stick with that. ✌️
The immortalised approach using AI decision is only going to be the first of many. They should be happy and incredibly proud that they will already be immortalised by what they have achieved over the last 50 years. What we are basically now saying though is that new bands and new potential Kiss equivalents of the future who dare dream of having 50 year careers, don't even bother - we, the greatest bands of the past 50 years, are going to be around forever, and you are not going to be able to compete with it. This is the beginning of the end of authentic human made creative music.
Mixed emotions about the new era. I love and embrace tech, yet I’m a musician and love performing live. That being said, these guys are in their golden years and the road is a lot of work… especially for their show. I agree that live music brings us together and is the most magical part of playing an instrument. However, in this particular case, I think it could work. They have always had this cartoon/superhero likeness that seems perfect for the “new era”, and will inspire new fans. I don’t think it will ever destroy live music… it’s just a tool to continue a legacy for new fans, and to keep giving to us old farts. Thanks for this cool video.
I'll see what you're saying and I sort of agree with you. I was a fan from the very beginning solve them twice in the early days they were a phenomenon nobody had ever seen anything like that before and it was great and a very very smart money making tool for the guys they are kind of iconic
If this is just a one-off, yeah, I can agree. But if it goes on for more than one show, NO. If it succeeds, other bands will want to do it. Already bands are faking out the fans with half their show having too many unnecessary backing tracks. Not to mention the price they charge for us having to watch a not completely live show. I understand having backing tracks when there is a part of a song that needs the fill, but that's it. If you can't perform live anymore, just retire already! Especially if you have as much money as the members of a band like KISS. Then at least the fans can have respect for how great you once were. Most everyone gets older and cannot do the same things they once could. No shame in that. On the other hand, I wonder if I could get an avatar to go do my job for me while I sit at home on my ass and collect the paycheck?
@@V3ntilatorFans would buy tickets if Gene allowed something new, instead of his stick with what already works motto that he brought to the very end like a Broadway show.
@@V3ntilator Not me. I wouldn't waste my money on such a stupid idea. They are marketing masters though and they know silly people will buy into their shit.
@@markusaurelius777 The Dio hologram tour didn't sell tickets, so they had to cancel it. It's pointless to watch any band "live" without any real people on stage. It's almost as bad as using autotune and playback live.
Charging fans to come to an arena to watch avatars and pre-recorded music is not cool and won’t work. However, paying a small fee to experience an avatar concert on sat a VR headset does sound pretty cool. It wouldn’t be any different than buying a concert dvd on iTunes and watching in your living room. Guess we’ll see which direction they go in
Loved KISS since I first discovered them in 77 have always seen them as much as I could over the years even was there for the reunion tour with Ace and Peter for the sum of 5 shows but the way that Paul and Gene have talked and acted towards Ace and Peter have absolutely disgusted me they deserved to have at least played a few songs at this last show and for that reason I have lost all respect and interest in this version of the band and to hell with Gene and Paul!!!!
I remember my older brother bringing KISS posters home from school.1978.Have been a KISS fan ever since.Sad to see them go.I don't get the avatar thing at all.Nothing beats going to a live show
KISS Army since 78. I have nothing but wild appreciation for what they have given. But some kind of avatar stuff goes against their message from their own beginning. LIVE!!! Live is what they preached and sold. I truly hope this is not the beginning of some sick rabbit hole with modern technology. I can accept others stepping into the make up and shows performing their music like broadway fills in different people for roles. I can do that. But this? I hope it's not true, and that's as insulting as i will get.
I agree 100% !!! I won't get on board with the avatar thing, seeing our favorite bands live in person is a awesome thing like when I was like 3feet from Blackie Lawless, I saw Dream Theatre in a small crap club in Indianapolis before they hit it big .... awesome memories !!! I just think it's a money grab for Gene and Paul !!!!!
Problem is live music is mostly dead unless it's big groups with money behind them or pop garbage like Tailor Swuft. There is no music scene for rock like there use to be.
I will tell you straight up as a Kiss fan that I have been for the last 32 years I think this was an amazing way to end it where it began. I am thankful for KISS and wonderful music they have released over the last 50 years they have inspired me to be a musician and I am thankful for their music saving my life as well. Paul Stanley was and still is one of my inspirations. Even though I have never seen a Kiss concert in person but I’ve watched every concert from the beginning to the final one last night. I just want to say thank you for the wonderful memories you’ve given to us fans. I’m part of the kiss army until the day I die. Kiss will forever be the true legends of rock ‘n’ roll.
The true legends is subjective lol. We had many many origins of modern Rock here in the UK and Kiss were 5-10 years late to that party that we started 🙃
what? you never went to see em live? and being as big a fan as you claim? I dont know about that,unless youve been in prison your whole life or some kind of medical issue,other than that I cant see why you wou;dnt have done everything in your power to go to a KISS show
@@BryJovi17 what about blues? whered that come from? which a lot of blues music can and is rock,didnt rock originate from blues? I really dont know,asking
you will never (or at least so far) be able to adequately simulate those massive explosions, fire bolts, confetti rains etc. etc. in virtual reality - and exactly those are a part of the kiss dna and make kiss different from other bands (admittedly, these days lots of band do stuff alike). kiss shows are something you feel on and under your skin. i have seen abba voyage in london this year. it works for abba, but i don’t have the impression i have see them live. what i have witnessed is a well-done movie on a massive high-res screen, with real musicians playing in sync to it. the illusion was 99% perfect. i doubt the kiss audience is large enough to get them making a pilgrimage somewhere to see something alike and make it a long-running commercial success. (but i am open to be proven wrong. maybe kiss come up with something even more advanced than abba has done.)
Was glad to have been at MSG for their final show......was a very entertaining show, the lighting / fire effects / and their music was pretty awesome. ( People were actually deflating the balloons keeping them for souvenirs. KISS had more energy than I had last night and they're 25 years my senior.........Glad to have been there for MY first KISS concert and their LAST ? 🤔🤔 ( THEY"RE GOING VIRTUAL ) Whatever that means...................
It sucks I was introduced to them on their last year. It’s also hard to move on when something that has been around before you were even born is leaving.
I heard years ago that they wanted to keep the band going, at some point, with all new members. They knew they couldn't keep doing it themselves, but they wanted to make sure KISS kept going even after they were gone. So, if that is the announcement (I haven't gotten to that part of the video yet), then I'm not surprised.
I don't know what is bizarre about it. It's been done with numerous other artists, currently a HUGE hit for ABBA. KISS meets ILM should be fun. If only people would stop being so bloody pessimistic.
I´m with you on this...Just calm down people, nowbody is gonna force anyone to see anything they don´t want to see...Saw Kiss Live 1976 here in Sweden as a 12year old (and 1980) and prefer the "Old" Kiss when Ace and Peter was in the Band..Whatever what, i think this is Cool and can´t as you wrote see any Bizarre in this.. We had ABBA doing this and People that saw their AvatarShow was really Impressed i can tell you.. I think Kiss are more suitable as a Group for something like this, it can be as cool as it gets.. And about the Moneything, Buy Or dont buy..Easy.. From Sweden.🤘☮
Many people not understanding the future said the same thing "maybe there will be a market for it one day" back when KISS first put the makeup on too, but here we are all these years later.
I will point out that this has been done already with ABBA. Kiss has the funds to make it happen at several venues across the planet (not just one as with ABBA). This will give an outlet for other bands to join in and have avatars of the classic bands forever. With AI they could have new Kiss Music even after the band members have passed. It is whatever the customer wants. I do think that you may see Gene and Paul again doing limited acoustic shows in a couple of years. The full make up live shows are over for Gene and Paul.
They were a huge part of my childhood. In junior high in the late seventies I went to my first Halloween dance as Paul Stanley. It was so funny to walk into the gym and see at least 5 more Paul Stanley’s 😂 The rest of the band was represented as well ❤ I hate the idea of them doing AI music.
Followed ur program...I got to know KISS through my nephew, he brought Alive I with him when he immigrated from Indonesia to the Netherlands. Back than I was into disco..and like many others before and after me...I was taken by the band....AND they really ROCKED MY WORLD. For some it was a devil band...who cares...i don't ...as for me..if I had the oppertunity to have a time-machine...I'd jump back 4 sure. As for the Avatars....that can only be recreated from the brains of Gene $immon$, but perhaps people will love and like it. I for one, nope ...not my cup of tea. I will just listen to you tube and get back the memories from the few albums /cd's and dvd's i have. ROCKFEED thank u for the sharing...greetings from the NETHERLANDS
I saw KISS for the first time Sept 6, 1976. Varsity Stadium in Toronto. $6 general admission ticked. Yeah, I am old now. I literally just listened to Rock and Roll Over. Available for free here on UA-cam. I have not watched your entire video yet, but I have always expected Paul and Gene to eventually replace themselves in the band. Unpause and let's see what unfolds.
Speaking of Paul Stanley... I am Canadian. I was invited by Paul's "team" to American Thanksgiving. Facebook messenger - two years - I spent American Thanksgiving with Paul and Erin. He IS a nice guy. I love him with all my heart. I also hung out with Peter Criss at the Nag's Head North in Toronto on my 30th birthday. But that's another story for another video.
Best show ever! I was there and they were excellent! I have seen all the top singers and bands. I know a great concert! Kiss rocks! Love this band and I am thrilled they will live on.
I noticed on many live dvds they put out that many of the vocals especially Paul are over dubbed. Many times vocals don't match. I would bet the dvd release of the end of road tour will be over dubbed in studio at least for Paul's vocals. @@doknox
@@elvinposey5251 I saw Kiss be Kiss last weekend! Lol. Paul still has muscles in his 70’s and flew across the crowd. Gene and Paul never did drugs and alcohol and it shows. My older sister loved Kiss as a kid and saw them. I went in her memory and now I am a fan. 🤘🤘😁
Was it "live" last night, with backing tracks? I guess depends on how you define "live music". I didn't think the avatars were going to just be things you watch at home, I figured they planned on doing avatar "concerts" like ABBA has done. I'm not sure how much appeal that would have for KISS fans. (I'm not one, by the way, but I recognize their place in rock history.)
ABBA has done this (motion capture) - they have become avatars for their British show. I have a friend who went (and they were thousands at the show!!) and he thought it was amazing. No, it won't be the same as live, but it might be something completely different and fantastic in ways that the concerts at this point are not. (Check out the ABBA 2022 Voyage tour.) It saddens me that kids today will never experience that live show; but with this, they will still be able to gather with and join the Army and discover their music. KISS was a significant piece of the soundtrack of my life - from my years in the 1970s to today. I'm certain it is their last show in person - they are ready to retire. But KISS will live on, well after their final show last night. Paul said, "KISS is bigger than any one of us." Now, they can perform in multiple cities at the same time. They are full concerts, not like what you are saying. I agree - AI is coming. I'm interested that they are embracing it! I saw them twice in concert; grateful I lived while they were in the biz! (Mick Jagger, of 80 years old, is still performing. Watching his videos is sad. Very sad - he needs to retire.)
In 2022 they were on their farewell tour so I of course went to the Prague show to see them before they finish. Then 3-4 months after the show posters start coming up saying they’re playing the o2 in Prague in 2023 as well 😅 classic Kiss
Definitely bizarre but smart on kiss’s behalf plus they’ve already released a game in early 2000 with kiss psych circus the nightmare child remember that game
Kiss are a f?cking joke,,,, and i was a huge kiss fan up until they started putting hired hands in the costumes of legends. Kiss have sucked for over 20 years
They are doing it all wrong. They should just allow Tribute bands to perform as them, not virtual avatars. It looks incredibly fake. It's going to nosedive. People want a classic Kiss concert with real people as them in Makeup. Think of this as a Broadway theater act in multiple cities with different actors like the Blue Man Group etc.
i have no interest in this and I'm not going to pay to see it but I don't understand why people are angry over it (and I'm a big Kiss critic). Nobody is trying to trick you. It is what it is and if you don't like it don't pay for it. No big deal. I remember going to a Pink Floyd Laser Light show years ago. Was I angry that the band wasn't playing live? No. It's just a bit of fun.
Not sure if this will be like the recent ABBA shows or they are thinking about something else. If it is just online or VR, I don't think it will go over very well. A big part of a Kiss show is the lights, pyro, explosions, etc happening live. When I first saw the video after the concert, I thought it might be a video game. I'm not crazy about the avatars floating. That makes it too much like a superhero cartoon, not a concert.
Thinking about the Abba thing, I thought for a while now that Kiss could do this one day, but do a 'realistic' looking thing like Abba have done, maybe reproduce the Destroyer or Love Gun shows, rather than the comic book type thing they're going for here. I suppose it depends what audience they're going for. I know with the Abba show, there are musicians on stage, and the music is live aside from the Abba members vocals etc. I think that Kiss might have chosen a questionable direction to go with this.
Wow. Never thought this would happen. I've been a fan since I was 10 years old. If 10 year old me saw them continuing like this, I would be really happy Now that I am in my early twenties, I don't know how to feel.
KISS please just go away, let Ace keep rocking as he does, and Gene and Paul, go out to pasture, count your money, but just please go away and be quiet now.
I think it still is going to be live music as far as I can tell. Gene said there would be between 4 and 10 bands touring the world performing as the Kiss characters. I don't know if the avatar animations will make this more like a Dethklok concert with animated visuals, but it sounds like there will be live Kiss performances. Time will tell. The Kiss community will live on. If you want live Kiss, some of the Kiss tribute bands out there really are great.
I don't have a problem with this AI KISS in the future. I never got to see the Original KISS, who were done by the 80's. We went to see the opening band for KISS when wearing bandanas tied around everything, no makeup, and trying to get "back on the horse" as a Glam band. The "Lick it Up" Tour. I think they still wore the boots, but "no makeup" was already cashed in, so no big deal. Gene still blew fire, which was really cool, and they actually surprised me with such a good show. Despite the Glam era, lol! I think we went to see Queensryche, as the opening act, as it was our first time they played in our area. Didn't go to see KISS(even though a huge fan since 9-10 yrs old). Starting with the "Destroyer" Album. A Masterpiece! Went to see, I believe, Queensryche, but remember the KISS show as clear as day! Don't mind AI/Holograms, for those not with us, but KISS are really are quite the "grifters" of moder, live, music, backing tracks, and Auto-tune. Coming to a place that will gladly take our money, lol! 👍💯✌️
I made a comment that sadly was blocked by instagram. I was saying they were going to have marionettes of Gene and Paul... just puppeteer them on stage. But yeah that cgi avatar stuff is cringe. It's like we all make the jokes about farewell and final tours. They went hold my beer with this shit.
My 1st concert was KISS, I was 13 years old. I have been to just over 200 live shows in my life. Us old timers love LIVE, ......But kids of today are into AI. And they now can go back in time and see every great show, plus new songs that groups cant do live anymore. I think its safe to say Rock will never die and this is just the evolution of Rock. I hope for great things with this new AI. ......We will see, like it or not !
I honestly thought this was so cool. I read the comics and the avatars brought back that spirit in my heart that I had when I read them. They’re really just super cool characters like these avatars and had special signs for them. I think this is sweet. Reminds me of the video game as well.
As a huge KISS fan and have been a fan since 1977 the avatar thing is kinda cool if it is just a video you can watch or a video game but as a musician well nothing can ever replace a live show or concert and if that is what tthere plan is then I am a no go for that kind of crap. For me live music is were it is at and will always be at and I 100% agree with you live misuc brings people together so I hope this is not how they are going to try and put on some sort of concert or show in the future. Because in Paul and Genes own words its about the fans and putting on the best "live show" there is! this will not be that if that is what they end up doing.
Kiss were one of my biggest musical influences growing up. I still have a soft spot in my heart for those first few records. Having said that they have been nothing more than a joke/circus act the last 25 years. It’s really embarrassing to see and I almost hate to admit I was once a massive fan
Saw KISS the first time at the LA Forum after my father surprised me with the news that he bought the tickets. "Yeah, thanks man. That's only 15 hours away with less than 2 months to plan." Regardless, I made it and, unfortunately, caught a cold on the way there and was exhausted from making the drive. First show was a pretty memorable experience for all the wrong reasons. Their performance was awesome, but my experience was bad. So I said f**k that, I want a KISS show that I will remember fondly. Went to their Albuquerque show that same year and it was a much better experience. Drove away from Albuquerque with a melancholy attitude afterward because I knew that it would truly be the last time that I would ever see those legends and an experience of that caliber ever.
It's now Sunday December 3rd and KISS have played their last live note on an official tour. The consensus among the vast majority of KISS fans across the internet is the poor-man's AI avatar offering is cheap drivel. Gene and Paul will NEVER spend the quantum sum of money it will cost to create a full concert in AI, and the fans will never spend big money to watch a glorified video game. Bring on KISS 2.0 with real humans playing.
I will bet anyone $100 they will do another tour soon, and I just started this upload! Huge fan by the way Rock Feed! 🤘I have to edit this once I watched it all, AGREED my dude! I absolutely don’t support non-live music that you speak of! “Live music bring us together!”
I was there. Great concert no doubt about. The announcement at the end was a bit of a head scratcher especially with the QR code that was put up that took people to their website with a 1 hour countdown. Now I am contemplating motion capturing myself so I can live on 🙂
KISS is a band I could never get into. I had seen what they looked like when I was little but never listened to them. They kinda creeped me out back then. By the time I was 14, my musical preferences grew to where I was getting really into hard metal, anything from Megadeth to Dimmu Borgir. When I finally listened to KISS, due to their attire and stuff, I was expecting it to be at least like Megadeth or Metallica level, and I was let down. I was just thinking "I really wanna love this, but my god, it sucks..." I know that take would burn some people's asses real good, but that's how I felt. They don't have a single song I like.
@mgtowsimp9839 Read that sad story on the internet. I met Jani Lane about eight years before he passed away. Very nice guy. Very sad if true. I had a stripper girlfriend back in 2000 that worked at a upscale strip club.. I knew many of her coworker girlfriends. Many had met Paul Stanley over the years. They all said that Paul Stanley is gay and that his past wife pamela and his current wife are his cover/ beard. Really Sad imo.
KISS revolutuonized rock and roll while simultaneously paving the way for the Era of metal that would take off. Many iconic metal artists credit KISS as an inspiration. Like their music or not, without them, the mysic you do enjoy would not exist. Dont have to like them, but you do have to respect them for what theyve done and what theyve given to the music world
Yeah, I don't know if I love this concept either. There was a time where it had been mentioned that a band like Kiss or Slipknot would continue on with rolling members as though it made the brand and not the people behind the facepaint (or masks, in the Knot's case). And I loved Kiss during the heyday, I can even dig Dynasty and the some of the 80's stuff. But this, yeah I don't think I'll go along with. I may check it out based on morbid curiosity, but I won't get into it. BTW, love the Eagles helmet and LP shirt!
I agree w you! Kiss has been the band, the GOAT, all through my life, from first concert at 10, and more shows than I can even remember honestly by now at age 57. I did not do this "goodbye" tour, as I just would rather not deal with the drama of the goodbye tone. I DID however watch their Seattle WA show three weeks ago on a UA-cam members Full Show video, and let me say...they rocked about as hard as they ever have! They did a really great montage of their top music throughout their career, but I sure did miss "Strutter" and "Hard Luck Woman". But they did "Beth"...? Anyway, you know Paul is going to turn 72 years old on January 22 right? It's my mom's bday too and I've known his as well as hers lol. But 72? Jeez Louise...why WOULDNT YOU RETIRE?? Plus, due to Paul being sick with the flu pretty bad, they were forced to just cancel the two Canadian shows... which was a really huge deal for them to have to do that. And no make-up shows planned. Guess fans were very lucky that they got to make the New York final gig. I will not be into any weird VR shit...that's my grandsons thing, lol. But they will always be my first and longest and best R n R loves...they set the standard for my personal taste and and what a rock band should be, and what I compare true talent and success to. These guys are shameless in their business model, yes...but they leave their soul and blood on that stage for their fans night after night, decade after decade! (Someone should google John 5's personal KISS memorabilia collection...lol!) I will miss them just ...always BEING OUT THERE doing what they do. But I would so much rather see them "go out" on their own good terms, healthy, happy and hard-rockin!
My parents are retired band musicians, different genres of music but, they still go into their low key Recording Studio and make CDs and people still buy them, not as often as they used to. Imo it's still a form of live entertainment, even they are in their 70's and no longer gigging as they still call it.
the avatars look terrible...they could have used KISS in their prime...but even so, they are using KISS to sell as you say "dystopian" transhumanism. Creepy.
If you haven't seen it, there's an interview of Gene backstage afterwards, and you can tell he's been emotional. Anyway, he summons his daughter to join him, so she'd say how awesome he is. Then he asks her "did u see show?" She says yes, it was one of the best. Then he asks " you saw the end? What'd you think?" (I'm slightly paraphrasing, but he meant about the avatar announcement). His daughter, with the ever so slightest hesitation, said " yea, that's great" She seemed embarrassed almost. Ya know..there's good reason why holograms of DIO, Freddie Mercury, Prince or MJ don't go out on tours. It's not real!!!
I saw them for the first time in Nassau Coliseum in 1979 as a teen then bought my daughter when she was seven to see Saliva, Kiss and Aerosmith at the Jones Beach Theater in 2003. Also saw Paul Stanley at L'AMOUR in Brooklyn in the late 80's prior to doing a Kiss tour.
I saw the ABBA show in London and it was amazing. It will not replace live music for me but this was something different, great experience. Love the channel.
Having participated in a live VR concert it actually can feel really good, you are close to the band, you can stand up and dance, you interact with the audience (on Pico 4) So even though this business is like the new star wars movies, some young fans will love to have more despite the digitalization and the band will avoid wearing themselves out mentally and physically
I remember KISS saying they were doing a farewell tour.....over 20 years ago! I hate when public figures so blatantly LIE!
Or maybe they just simply changed their minds?
@@sci-fi.tsunamiThey lie
They have more money than they could ever spend. Gene and Paul should start giving it away rather than continuing this.
My dad took me to that show when I was 3. I’m now almost 24 with 3 kids of my own 😂
I saw The Who's farewell tour in 1982.
It will remain a franchise forever. There's nothing Gene wants more than to make more money. Even when he's dead.
CHAIM,...Not , GENE
You sure he isn't dead already!
Money is worth nothing when your dead.
Exactly these guys only care money at the end of the day
After the show the interview showed that Gene will miss the stage the lights the fans the reporters the fame the girls more than anything. He looked like someone who
lost his memory and couldn't hold a thought he was clearly broken up and had not been ready for the last show to end.
I love KISS. They are my favorite band, and I couldn’t be any more disappointed with how they handled this. They didn’t even seem like they cared and then just plugged some stupid hologram show at the end. It didn’t even feel like an ending. Not to mention that they didn’t even talk about any past members.
The "avatars" were horrible and tasteless.
I agree here live music not Ai
Finally a level headed comment. I can't believe people are supporting Kiss not ending things! This hologram is so stupid! Not to mention The treatment towards Ace, Peter, and Bruce
Agreed.
Agreed. They should have just franchised it out to other people doing their stage show.
Here’s one thing that AI and avatars can literally *never* replace. The first concert I saw was the Smashing Pumpkins on the Mellon Collie tour when I was a kid. The lights went out, the place erupted (which was almost panic-inducingly awesome) and there they were. The band I’d only seen on tv and listened to in my headphones. They were there to spend an evening with several thousand like-minded people from my area. There’s nothing like that, dude…I get that abba voyage was a crazy spectacle but it doesn’t beat the “all is right with the world” humanity of a unique live show, being played for YOU.
I couldn't imagine sitting through a Smashing Pumpkins set. That's rough there.
Not only that, but they didn’t even think to ask Peter Criss or Ace Frehley to be immortalised… I understand Tommy and Eric have been a part of it for over 2 decades but doing motion capture wit the original members would’ve been a much better decision at least
@@kevinshuping4679
Dude, you’re saying this on a *Kiss* related video for godsake. Casting aspersions on one of the more artful alternative bands to come along in the last 30 years while tacitly standing behind Paul Stanley going “ALRIGHT PEEPOLL *cough* ” for two hours…come on now…
@@davesmusicchannel3590they did
@@davesmusicchannel3590 It doesn't really matter though, it's not Paul, Gene, Tommy and Eric, it's the Starchild, The Demon, The Spaceman and The Catman
I'll say this about it; If there's a chance it will make money and keep them relevant, Paul and Gene are all for it.
That’s because they are narcissists.
I’m with you! Live music forever!!
Studio albums & a great-sounding home theater forever! Live shows usually sound like shit.
@@sci-fi.tsunami Only for the rich audiophiles.
Live shows are there for the experience, not for HD sound quality. I will never go to a show with avatars. I want musicians to be human, with real human emotions. It doesn’t have to be perfect for me.
Some people don't like or can't go to live shows for various reasons. It's probably going to be a concert but with screens.
If they aren’t retiring and they play another show I pray no one goes. They are stealing peoples money now . Literally! These guys never quit ! End of road tour for 30 years.
Same ive been saying
Only you too have been on the end of the road for 30 years.
MrMfalzone...You mean the world famous world renown MrMfalzone...Who cares what you think.
People have nothing good to say. I'm gonna miss seeing them. They said no more touring. One off shows may happen
@@mickeyjohn2442 Great response lol, as the guy should have waited outside any KISS concert to see all the smiling and happy faces. KISS ARE FOREVER AND IMMORTAL !!!
It's honestly the most KISS thing they could have done.
And immediately after walking off stage for the last time.
😂 💯
Ooh...ouch...(cuz it's true).
😂. Probably Gene’s idea!
I heard that they were planning a franchise with fake "them" on stage...
We will still see video, vinyl and CD releases of the final tour. Limited editions etc. The fans have to keep funding their retirement ya know.
This was a shell of what KISS used to be. Glad I saw them before the imposters joined.
+THE MONEY COW STOPPED 10 YEARS AGO
Truth
There always a hater in the room. Negetive to the last. Its the easy way to go through life hate.
not a huge kiss fan but your right about all the stuff they market, I don't feel it's Tommy or Eris fault, I think they should have had redesigned make up for them but they're good players
@@vuitheirt4704 Such nonsense i still see who stuff being sold etc etc. Kiss was smarter than most good for them.
I lost kiss? When ace and Peter left. Fan since 73.
If you think back to what could have been your first purchased KISS album, KISS Alive, you have to acknowledge that it wasn't really a live album. When this information became public no one really freaked out because KISS was always about the attitude and spectacle versus artist integrity. The band wrote the book on live concert performances and this new era of KISS is geared more toward the fans of the future than the original KISS Army fans. I didn't care for any of the KISS avatar footage that I saw online but I do see in about 5 years or so a KISS tour that will be a combination of a rock concert, part Cirque du Soleil, part immersive video game. I won't attend because I'll always prefer having seen the real deal in concert but they'll definitely keep the franchise going for many years.
I agree! I have seen them live, let them do what they want.... they are always a good show!
Some say it wasn't totally LIVE! Cause Gene had some words re recorded & enhanced & added other sounds Like the live crowd sounds But! Either iether way I still love Alive 1 I doobie do doo Haha 😁
I saw them for the final time in 2000. I am glad I did.
My last show was Sonic Boom and I thought STanley was losing his voice back then and I was done with live shows except on DVD.
I've been a big fan of theirs from the beginning and seeing them in concert for the first time in 1976 being dedicated and all along the way for 47 years and i have no interest in this. They will never be forgotten just like other famous musicians. I am a realist and think things are fine without this. I will not follow it.
When I think of Kiss I think of being a kid in the 70s looking at the album covers and cool halloween stuff at Kmart. Hard to believe people still like them.
Kiss: This is our last show ever!!!! See you next year !!!!!
I have been a KISS FAN 💋 from 1973-2023! My Uncle was a music 🎶 producer at A&M RECORDS HOLLYWOOD and knew Neal Bogart from Casablanca records.
My Uncle introduced an 8 year old ME to Gene Simmons in late 1973.He scared the hell outta me ! I had nightmares for an entire year.
The MUSIC is what bonds the fans to a band.KISS has outlasted most record companies! I am thankful I was allowed to be part of the inside of the inside of the recording music biz.
Thank you Gene, Paul, Peter, Ace, Vinnie, Eric, Mark, Bruce,Tommy and Eric Singer.
At age 58, you guys have left the ROCK in my Roll.
Not really into the whole AI Avatars.I wanna ROCK, and that includes real live musicians.
If you were a member of the KISS Army there's NO way in hell you'd even for a second accept a wanker nobody in Thayer wearing the make up of one of 'the' most influential guitarists in rock history. Singer has been in this band 20 years - but when he donned Peter Criss's 'cat man' persona that was it - a fraud. The 'genuine' KISS Army checked out in their final show at the Olympics.
I was really proud of Kiss for finally doing something dignified for a change, thought we were witnessing something special, and then they drop a freakin Guitar Hero commercial on us… Lol I’ve always probably given them a little more credit than I should have, but after seeing that, I’m done. I got my records. I’ll stick with that. ✌️
The immortalised approach using AI decision is only going to be the first of many. They should be happy and incredibly proud that they will already be immortalised by what they have achieved over the last 50 years.
What we are basically now saying though is that new bands and new potential Kiss equivalents of the future who dare dream of having 50 year careers, don't even bother - we, the greatest bands of the past 50 years, are going to be around forever, and you are not going to be able to compete with it. This is the beginning of the end of authentic human made creative music.
But only if we allow it.
Mixed emotions about the new era. I love and embrace tech, yet I’m a musician and love performing live.
That being said, these guys are in their golden years and the road is a lot of work… especially for their show. I agree that live music brings us together and is the most magical part of playing an instrument. However, in this particular case, I think it could work. They have always had this cartoon/superhero likeness that seems perfect for the “new era”, and will inspire new fans. I don’t think it will ever destroy live music… it’s just a tool to continue a legacy for new fans, and to keep giving to us old farts.
Thanks for this cool video.
Ozzy should think about doing it because his health is declining
I'll see what you're saying and I sort of agree with you. I was a fan from the very beginning solve them twice in the early days they were a phenomenon nobody had ever seen anything like that before and it was great and a very very smart money making tool for the guys they are kind of iconic
As long as people are willing to pay...
If this is just a one-off, yeah, I can agree. But if it goes on for more than one show, NO. If it succeeds, other bands will want to do it. Already bands are faking out the fans with half their show having too many unnecessary backing tracks. Not to mention the price they charge for us having to watch a not completely live show. I understand having backing tracks when there is a part of a song that needs the fill, but that's it. If you can't perform live anymore, just retire already! Especially if you have as much money as the members of a band like KISS. Then at least the fans can have respect for how great you once were. Most everyone gets older and cannot do the same things they once could. No shame in that. On the other hand, I wonder if I could get an avatar to go do my job for me while I sit at home on my ass and collect the paycheck?
@@DaltonRiley25- No he shouldn’t!!! 🤮
Saw them in 77’, that was enough…
I'll start by saying I've been a diehard fan since 79..I'm 48 yrs old..this is RIDICULOUS..they are exploiting their fans
So Hologram concerts are the future of Live Rock and Roll ? Fuck that ! I'll pass
Reality is if you take 4 kick ass studio musicians. Put them in the KISS stage attire and on the KISS stage. The KISS concerts never have to end!
Here,here!
But who would buy tickets?
@@V3ntilatorFans would buy tickets if Gene allowed something new, instead of his stick with what already works motto that he brought to the very end like a Broadway show.
@@V3ntilator Not me. I wouldn't waste my money on such a stupid idea. They are marketing masters though and they know silly people will buy into their shit.
@@markusaurelius777 The Dio hologram tour didn't sell tickets, so they had to cancel it. It's pointless to watch any band "live" without any real people on stage.
It's almost as bad as using autotune and playback live.
Charging fans to come to an arena to watch avatars and pre-recorded music is not cool and won’t work. However, paying a small fee to experience an avatar concert on sat a VR headset does sound pretty cool. It wouldn’t be any different than buying a concert dvd on iTunes and watching in your living room. Guess we’ll see which direction they go in
Loved KISS since I first discovered them in 77 have always seen them as much as I could over the years even was there for the reunion tour with Ace and Peter for the sum of 5 shows but the way that Paul and Gene have talked and acted towards Ace and Peter have absolutely disgusted me they deserved to have at least played a few songs at this last show and for that reason I have lost all respect and interest in this version of the band and to hell with Gene and Paul!!!!
KISS Meets The Phantom in a whole new era!
I still love that movie.
I remember my older brother bringing KISS posters home from school.1978.Have been a KISS fan ever since.Sad to see them go.I don't get the avatar thing at all.Nothing beats going to a live show
This must be for a younger generation because i think of the fans who grew up with KISS won't embrace it.
KISS Army since 78. I have nothing but wild appreciation for what they have given. But some kind of avatar stuff goes against their message from their own beginning. LIVE!!! Live is what they preached and sold. I truly hope this is not the beginning of some sick rabbit hole with modern technology. I can accept others stepping into the make up and shows performing their music like broadway fills in different people for roles. I can do that. But this? I hope it's not true, and that's as insulting as i will get.
Looking forward to what Ace has to say!!
Everybody knows. Would he be involved he would love it! But he is not, so he will say bad things about it. Easy.
I agree 100% !!! I won't get on board with the avatar thing, seeing our favorite bands live in person is a awesome thing like when I was like 3feet from Blackie Lawless, I saw Dream Theatre in a small crap club in Indianapolis before they hit it big .... awesome memories !!! I just think it's a money grab for Gene and Paul !!!!!
Gene already said what they plan on doing. They plan on licensing a group to go around playing as KISS.
Problem is live music is mostly dead unless it's big groups with money behind them or pop garbage like Tailor Swuft. There is no music scene for rock like there use to be.
I will tell you straight up as a Kiss fan that I have been for the last 32 years I think this was an amazing way to end it where it began. I am thankful for KISS and wonderful music they have released over the last 50 years they have inspired me to be a musician and I am thankful for their music saving my life as well. Paul Stanley was and still is one of my inspirations. Even though I have never seen a Kiss concert in person but I’ve watched every concert from the beginning to the final one last night. I just want to say thank you for the wonderful memories you’ve given to us fans. I’m part of the kiss army until the day I die. Kiss will forever be the true legends of rock ‘n’ roll.
The true legends is subjective lol. We had many many origins of modern Rock here in the UK and Kiss were 5-10 years late to that party that we started 🙃
Such a , ...LARGE FAN, And Never seen them Live, ..in 32 years,!?!? Yeah, RIGHT,...FAN,.......!?!? NOT......👎
what? you never went to see em live? and being as big a fan as you claim? I dont know about that,unless youve been in prison your whole life or some kind of medical issue,other than that I cant see why you wou;dnt have done everything in your power to go to a KISS show
@@BryJovi17 what about blues? whered that come from? which a lot of blues music can and is rock,didnt rock originate from blues? I really dont know,asking
@@Swellington_ I've seen Kiss live TWICE, for reference, and I'm 35
you will never (or at least so far) be able to adequately simulate those massive explosions, fire bolts, confetti rains etc. etc. in virtual reality - and exactly those are a part of the kiss dna and make kiss different from other bands (admittedly, these days lots of band do stuff alike). kiss shows are something you feel on and under your skin.
i have seen abba voyage in london this year. it works for abba, but i don’t have the impression i have see them live. what i have witnessed is a well-done movie on a massive high-res screen, with real musicians playing in sync to it. the illusion was 99% perfect.
i doubt the kiss audience is large enough to get them making a pilgrimage somewhere to see something alike and make it a long-running commercial success. (but i am open to be proven wrong. maybe kiss come up with something even more advanced than abba has done.)
Was glad to have been at MSG for their final show......was a very entertaining show, the lighting / fire effects / and their music was pretty awesome. ( People were actually deflating the balloons keeping them for souvenirs. KISS had more energy than I had last night and they're 25 years my senior.........Glad to have been there for MY first KISS concert and their LAST ? 🤔🤔 ( THEY"RE GOING VIRTUAL ) Whatever that means...................
It sucks I was introduced to them on their last year. It’s also hard to move on when something that has been around before you were even born is leaving.
I heard years ago that they wanted to keep the band going, at some point, with all new members. They knew they couldn't keep doing it themselves, but they wanted to make sure KISS kept going even after they were gone. So, if that is the announcement (I haven't gotten to that part of the video yet), then I'm not surprised.
I don't know what is bizarre about it. It's been done with numerous other artists, currently a HUGE hit for ABBA. KISS meets ILM should be fun. If only people would stop being so bloody pessimistic.
I´m with you on this...Just calm down people, nowbody is gonna force anyone to see anything they don´t want to see...Saw Kiss Live 1976 here in Sweden as a 12year old (and 1980) and prefer the "Old" Kiss when Ace and Peter was in the Band..Whatever what, i think this is Cool and can´t as you wrote see any Bizarre in this..
We had ABBA doing this and People that saw their AvatarShow was really Impressed i can tell you..
I think Kiss are more suitable as a Group for something like this, it can be as cool as it gets..
And about the Moneything, Buy Or dont buy..Easy..
From Sweden.🤘☮
KISS = ABBA. Helluva endorsement.
Well said! I couldn’t agree more with you on this. Live music forever!
All these bands I grew up with in the 80’s..Kiss, Crue, GnR..have tapped me out on all these retirements 🤑
Many people not understanding the future said the same thing "maybe there will be a market for it one day" back when KISS first put the makeup on too, but here we are all these years later.
I will point out that this has been done already with ABBA. Kiss has the funds to make it happen at several venues across the planet (not just one as with ABBA). This will give an outlet for other bands to join in and have avatars of the classic bands forever. With AI they could have new Kiss Music even after the band members have passed. It is whatever the customer wants. I do think that you may see Gene and Paul again doing limited acoustic shows in a couple of years. The full make up live shows are over for Gene and Paul.
@MoshMasterD I am just pointing out kiss the brand has the ability to put up several of these venues.
AI sucks
Avatar concerts are a joke; not surprising though considering it's Kiss. No reason Ace and Peter can't "appear with the band," now...
They were a huge part of my childhood. In junior high in the late seventies I went to my first Halloween dance as Paul Stanley. It was so funny to walk into the gym and see at least 5 more Paul Stanley’s 😂 The rest of the band was represented as well ❤
I hate the idea of them doing AI music.
Followed ur program...I got to know KISS through my nephew, he brought Alive I with him when he immigrated from Indonesia to the Netherlands. Back than I was into disco..and like many others before and after me...I was taken by the band....AND they really ROCKED MY WORLD. For some it was a devil band...who cares...i don't ...as for me..if I had the oppertunity to have a time-machine...I'd jump back 4 sure. As for the Avatars....that can only be recreated from the brains of Gene $immon$, but perhaps people will love and like it. I for one, nope ...not my cup of tea. I will just listen to you tube and get back the memories from the few albums /cd's and dvd's i have. ROCKFEED thank u for the sharing...greetings from the NETHERLANDS
Kiss went from something magical to a money making machine about forty years ago
Gene is all about that 💰💰💰
I saw KISS for the first time Sept 6, 1976. Varsity Stadium in Toronto. $6 general admission ticked. Yeah, I am old now. I literally just listened to Rock and Roll Over. Available for free here on UA-cam. I have not watched your entire video yet, but I have always expected Paul and Gene to eventually replace themselves in the band. Unpause and let's see what unfolds.
Speaking of Paul Stanley... I am Canadian. I was invited by Paul's "team" to American Thanksgiving. Facebook messenger - two years - I spent American Thanksgiving with Paul and Erin. He IS a nice guy. I love him with all my heart. I also hung out with Peter Criss at the Nag's Head North in Toronto on my 30th birthday. But that's another story for another video.
You can call it a show, but you could not ever call it a live show.
It’s more like a movie. That’s why they don’t let people record, just like the movies.
Ur so awesome for putting ur opnion out there Like that, really heartfelt and I feel it ❤
Best show ever! I was there and they were excellent! I have seen all the top singers and bands. I know a great concert! Kiss rocks! Love this band and I am thrilled they will live on.
Of course they were good. That's what happens when you mime to a CD.
They have playback and autotune
you should watch the many live dvds when KISS was really KISS.
I noticed on many live dvds they put out that many of the vocals especially Paul are over dubbed. Many times vocals don't match.
I would bet the dvd release of the end of road tour will be over dubbed in studio at least for Paul's vocals. @@doknox
@@elvinposey5251 I saw Kiss be Kiss last weekend! Lol. Paul still has muscles in his 70’s and flew across the crowd. Gene and Paul never did drugs and alcohol and it shows. My older sister loved Kiss as a kid and saw them. I went in her memory and now I am a fan. 🤘🤘😁
These guys are scumbags. They were good in the 70s and 80’s. Now they are just stealing peoples money.
Was it "live" last night, with backing tracks? I guess depends on how you define "live music". I didn't think the avatars were going to just be things you watch at home, I figured they planned on doing avatar "concerts" like ABBA has done. I'm not sure how much appeal that would have for KISS fans. (I'm not one, by the way, but I recognize their place in rock history.)
ABBA has done this (motion capture) - they have become avatars for their British show. I have a friend who went (and they were thousands at the show!!) and he thought it was amazing. No, it won't be the same as live, but it might be something completely different and fantastic in ways that the concerts at this point are not. (Check out the ABBA 2022 Voyage tour.) It saddens me that kids today will never experience that live show; but with this, they will still be able to gather with and join the Army and discover their music. KISS was a significant piece of the soundtrack of my life - from my years in the 1970s to today. I'm certain it is their last show in person - they are ready to retire. But KISS will live on, well after their final show last night. Paul said, "KISS is bigger than any one of us." Now, they can perform in multiple cities at the same time. They are full concerts, not like what you are saying. I agree - AI is coming. I'm interested that they are embracing it! I saw them twice in concert; grateful I lived while they were in the biz! (Mick Jagger, of 80 years old, is still performing. Watching his videos is sad. Very sad - he needs to retire.)
Im sure The Phantom had something to do with this............
Nah, even the Phantom misses them.
In 2022 they were on their farewell tour so I of course went to the Prague show to see them before they finish. Then 3-4 months after the show posters start coming up saying they’re playing the o2 in Prague in 2023 as well 😅 classic Kiss
Definitely bizarre but smart on kiss’s behalf plus they’ve already released a game in early 2000 with kiss psych circus the nightmare child remember that game
Kiss are a f?cking joke,,,, and i was a huge kiss fan up until they started putting hired hands in the costumes of legends. Kiss have sucked for over 20 years
They are doing it all wrong. They should just allow Tribute bands to perform as them, not virtual avatars. It looks incredibly fake. It's going to nosedive. People want a classic Kiss concert with real people as them in Makeup. Think of this as a Broadway theater act in multiple cities with different actors like the Blue Man Group etc.
i have no interest in this and I'm not going to pay to see it but I don't understand why people are angry over it (and I'm a big Kiss critic). Nobody is trying to trick you. It is what it is and if you don't like it don't pay for it. No big deal. I remember going to a Pink Floyd Laser Light show years ago. Was I angry that the band wasn't playing live? No. It's just a bit of fun.
Not sure if this will be like the recent ABBA shows or they are thinking about something else. If it is just online or VR, I don't think it will go over very well. A big part of a Kiss show is the lights, pyro, explosions, etc happening live. When I first saw the video after the concert, I thought it might be a video game. I'm not crazy about the avatars floating. That makes it too much like a superhero cartoon, not a concert.
Thinking about the Abba thing, I thought for a while now that Kiss could do this one day, but do a 'realistic' looking thing like Abba have done, maybe reproduce the Destroyer or Love Gun shows, rather than the comic book type thing they're going for here. I suppose it depends what audience they're going for. I know with the Abba show, there are musicians on stage, and the music is live aside from the Abba members vocals etc. I think that Kiss might have chosen a questionable direction to go with this.
Jani Lane said not only did KISS inspire Warrent, Jani credits Paul Stanley going balls deep in Lane ❤
Is that who it was? I know the story but never did an research. Has this been confirmed it's him?
Wow. Never thought this would happen. I've been a fan since I was 10 years old. If 10 year old me saw them continuing like this, I would be really happy
Now that I am in my early twenties, I don't know how to feel.
how about being taken for a sucker?
KISS please just go away, let Ace keep rocking as he does, and Gene and Paul, go out to pasture, count your money, but just please go away and be quiet now.
I think it still is going to be live music as far as I can tell. Gene said there would be between 4 and 10 bands touring the world performing as the Kiss characters. I don't know if the avatar animations will make this more like a Dethklok concert with animated visuals, but it sounds like there will be live Kiss performances. Time will tell. The Kiss community will live on. If you want live Kiss, some of the Kiss tribute bands out there really are great.
The Kiss Kruise 2024 will be announced soon and a residency at the Las Vegas Sphere is being planned
Gene Simmons says he was open to younger people taking over playing yhe band, sounds interesting
I don't have a problem with this AI KISS in the future. I never got to see the Original KISS, who were done by the 80's.
We went to see the opening band for KISS when wearing bandanas tied around everything, no makeup, and trying to get "back on the horse" as a Glam band.
The "Lick it Up" Tour. I think they still wore the boots, but "no makeup" was already cashed in, so no big deal. Gene still blew fire, which was really cool, and they actually surprised me with such a good show. Despite the Glam era, lol!
I think we went to see Queensryche, as the opening act, as it was our first time they played in our area.
Didn't go to see KISS(even though a huge fan since 9-10 yrs old). Starting with the "Destroyer" Album. A Masterpiece! Went to see, I believe, Queensryche, but remember the KISS show as clear as day!
Don't mind AI/Holograms, for those not with us, but KISS are really are quite the "grifters" of moder, live, music, backing tracks, and Auto-tune.
Coming to a place that will gladly take our money, lol! 👍💯✌️
I made a comment that sadly was blocked by instagram. I was saying they were going to have marionettes of Gene and Paul... just puppeteer them on stage. But yeah that cgi avatar stuff is cringe. It's like we all make the jokes about farewell and final tours. They went hold my beer with this shit.
They have always rocked! From beginning to end ❤❤❤
Yes their backing tracks live are great!!! Lol.
@@mikepalmer1971 They actually don't use them as much as you think.
They rocked from 73-2001! For the last 20 years, Piss has sucked!
My 1st concert was KISS, I was 13 years old. I have been to just over 200 live shows in my life. Us old timers love LIVE, ......But kids of today are into AI. And they now can go back in time and see every great show, plus new songs that groups cant do live anymore. I think its safe to say Rock will never die and this is just the evolution of Rock. I hope for great things with this new AI. ......We will see, like it or not !
I honestly thought this was so cool.
I read the comics and the avatars brought back that spirit in my heart that I had when I read them. They’re really just super cool characters like these avatars and had special signs for them. I think this is sweet.
Reminds me of the video game as well.
As a huge KISS fan and have been a fan since 1977 the avatar thing is kinda cool if it is just a video you can watch or a video game but as a musician well nothing can ever replace a live show or concert and if that is what tthere plan is then I am a no go for that kind of crap.
For me live music is were it is at and will always be at and I 100% agree with you live misuc brings people together so I hope this is not how they are going to try and put on some sort of concert or show in the future.
Because in Paul and Genes own words its about the fans and putting on the best "live show" there is!
this will not be that if that is what they end up doing.
Kiss were one of my biggest musical influences growing up. I still have a soft spot in my heart for those first few records. Having said that they have been nothing more than a joke/circus act the last 25 years. It’s really embarrassing to see and I almost hate to admit I was once a massive fan
I feel sort of the same way I was there in the early years big fan
Saw KISS the first time at the LA Forum after my father surprised me with the news that he bought the tickets. "Yeah, thanks man. That's only 15 hours away with less than 2 months to plan." Regardless, I made it and, unfortunately, caught a cold on the way there and was exhausted from making the drive. First show was a pretty memorable experience for all the wrong reasons. Their performance was awesome, but my experience was bad. So I said f**k that, I want a KISS show that I will remember fondly. Went to their Albuquerque show that same year and it was a much better experience. Drove away from Albuquerque with a melancholy attitude afterward because I knew that it would truly be the last time that I would ever see those legends and an experience of that caliber ever.
It's now Sunday December 3rd and KISS have played their last live note on an official tour. The consensus among the vast majority of KISS fans across the internet is the poor-man's AI avatar offering is cheap drivel. Gene and Paul will NEVER spend the quantum sum of money it will cost to create a full concert in AI, and the fans will never spend big money to watch a glorified video game. Bring on KISS 2.0 with real humans playing.
I will bet anyone $100 they will do another tour soon, and I just started this upload! Huge fan by the way Rock Feed! 🤘I have to edit this once I watched it all, AGREED my dude! I absolutely don’t support non-live music that you speak of! “Live music bring us together!”
KISS died-out years ago.
GREAT JOB ALL...THANX 4 MAKING Tee with LIONS NAMED LEO the music worldwide.
LOVE YOU ALL...!!!....MUCH LOVE.!!
I couldn't agree more. What an uncool thing to do. If that isn't gatekeeping at its most disgusting I don't know what is
Yeah fuck that. I agree 100%
I was there. Great concert no doubt about. The announcement at the end was a bit of a head scratcher especially with the QR code that was put up that took people to their website with a 1 hour countdown. Now I am contemplating motion capturing myself so I can live on 🙂
KISS is a band I could never get into. I had seen what they looked like when I was little but never listened to them. They kinda creeped me out back then. By the time I was 14, my musical preferences grew to where I was getting really into hard metal, anything from Megadeth to Dimmu Borgir. When I finally listened to KISS, due to their attire and stuff, I was expecting it to be at least like Megadeth or Metallica level, and I was let down. I was just thinking "I really wanna love this, but my god, it sucks..." I know that take would burn some people's asses real good, but that's how I felt. They don't have a single song I like.
Jani Lane got into KISS, then Paul Stanley got into Jani Lane 😮
So why are you watching a video on Kiss if you can't stand them?
@mgtowsimp9839 Read that sad story on the internet. I met Jani Lane about eight years before he passed away. Very nice guy. Very sad if true. I had a stripper girlfriend back in 2000 that worked at a upscale strip club.. I knew many of her coworker girlfriends. Many had met Paul Stanley over the years. They all said that Paul Stanley is gay and that his past wife pamela and his current wife are his cover/ beard. Really Sad imo.
I’m with you, they’re just cock rock with no substance to me. Overrated
KISS revolutuonized rock and roll while simultaneously paving the way for the Era of metal that would take off. Many iconic metal artists credit KISS as an inspiration. Like their music or not, without them, the mysic you do enjoy would not exist. Dont have to like them, but you do have to respect them for what theyve done and what theyve given to the music world
So to sum it up ace frehley was right.
Yeah, I don't know if I love this concept either. There was a time where it had been mentioned that a band like Kiss or Slipknot would continue on with rolling members as though it made the brand and not the people behind the facepaint (or masks, in the Knot's case). And I loved Kiss during the heyday, I can even dig Dynasty and the some of the 80's stuff. But this, yeah I don't think I'll go along with. I may check it out based on morbid curiosity, but I won't get into it.
BTW, love the Eagles helmet and LP shirt!
I love live music
Well kiss is basically backing tracks now so…..
I have been to see Kiss in the early years, great show! And memories!
@@mikepalmer1971 I think the original commenter wasn't referring on Kiss, so...
I agree w you! Kiss has been the band, the GOAT, all through my life, from first concert at 10, and more shows than I can even remember honestly by now at age 57. I did not do this "goodbye" tour, as I just would rather not deal with the drama of the goodbye tone. I DID however watch their Seattle WA show three weeks ago on a UA-cam members Full Show video, and let me say...they rocked about as hard as they ever have! They did a really great montage of their top music throughout their career, but I sure did miss "Strutter" and "Hard Luck Woman".
But they did "Beth"...?
Anyway, you know Paul is going to turn 72 years old on January 22 right? It's my mom's bday too and I've known his as well as hers lol. But 72? Jeez Louise...why WOULDNT YOU RETIRE?? Plus, due to Paul being sick with the flu pretty bad, they were forced to just cancel the two Canadian shows... which was a really huge deal for them to have to do that. And no make-up shows planned.
Guess fans were very lucky that they got to make the New York final gig. I will not be into any weird VR shit...that's my grandsons thing, lol. But they will always be my first and longest and best R n R loves...they set the standard for my personal taste and and what a rock band should be, and what I compare true talent and success to. These guys are shameless in their business model, yes...but they leave their soul and blood on that stage for their fans night after night, decade after decade!
(Someone should google John 5's personal KISS memorabilia collection...lol!)
I will miss them just ...always BEING OUT THERE doing what they do. But I would so much rather see them "go out" on their own good terms, healthy, happy and hard-rockin!
Avatars...now Paul won't need any more facelifts. Lol.
My parents are retired band musicians, different genres of music but, they still go into their low key Recording Studio and make CDs and people still buy them, not as often as they used to. Imo it's still a form of live entertainment, even they are in their 70's and no longer gigging as they still call it.
always a class act .... Gene is still a AH!
the avatars look terrible...they could have used KISS in their prime...but even so, they are using KISS to sell as you say "dystopian" transhumanism. Creepy.
KISS is the Greatest Rock n' Roll Brand of all time!!!! (and no... that is not a typo.) :P
I saw them for the first time..March 2020! It was a wild nite..and then no wild nites for two years 😷🤧
If you haven't seen it, there's an interview of Gene backstage afterwards, and you can tell he's been emotional. Anyway, he summons his daughter to join him, so she'd say how awesome he is. Then he asks her "did u see show?" She says yes, it was one of the best. Then he asks " you saw the end? What'd you think?" (I'm slightly paraphrasing, but he meant about the avatar announcement). His daughter, with the ever so slightest hesitation, said " yea, that's great" She seemed embarrassed almost.
Ya know..there's good reason why holograms of DIO, Freddie Mercury, Prince or MJ don't go out on tours. It's not real!!!
I saw it he looks like he's losing his mind he can't concentrate and babbling on and seems like he wasn't ready for the last show to end.
I saw them for the first time in Nassau Coliseum in 1979 as a teen then bought my daughter when she was seven to see Saliva, Kiss and Aerosmith at the Jones Beach Theater in 2003. Also saw Paul Stanley at L'AMOUR in Brooklyn in the late 80's prior to doing a Kiss tour.
It’s all about the money
They will probably tour as holograms like they did for Tupac. I'm okay with this after an artist is dead but don't think I would pay to go
MUSIC IS SUPPOSE TO BE REAL AND IF IT IS NOT BEING PLAYED BY REAL PEOPLE THEN IT IS NOT REAL!!!!!!!!!!💀
I saw the ABBA show in London and it was amazing. It will not replace live music for me but this was something different, great experience. Love the channel.
The Abba CGI looked totally fake.
Having participated in a live VR concert it actually can feel really good, you are close to the band, you can stand up and dance, you interact with the audience (on Pico 4)
So even though this business is like the new star wars movies, some young fans will love to have more despite the digitalization and the band will avoid wearing themselves out mentally and physically
Only live music for this guy
ABBA has had an amazing Avatar experience in London for a year now. They built their own building and people came from all over the world.