Cryotone Tubes: These Change the Way Audiophiles, Professionals & Music Lovers Live with Tubes!
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- Опубліковано 17 тра 2024
- What if you no longer had to worry about life of tubes in your hi-fi stereo?
What if you could MAX out the potential of your current amplifier? Pre-amplifier? DAC? Phono Stage? #audiophile #stereo #musicstudio
This is part 1, I cant cover everything in one video.
References in this video:
To Order Cryotone tubes
wathenspeakers.com/products.html
@MarshMastering Studios (uses Cryotone tubes for pro mastering)
www.marshmastering.com/
@decwareproducts testing Cryotone tubes
• Audiophile Cryo treate...
Thanks @abxaudiophiles for putting up with my humour. (luv ya big JAMES!)
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Awesome. After your review of the Sarah. I decided I must hear it. Especially if I have to wait 3years to get it. I made the journey to Peoria Illinois (Decware). I auditioned the Sarah paired to open baffle speakers (ZF15L).
I was blown away. This is the sound I have been looking for. I cannot put into words how much I enjoyed the system.
Here is a fun story that may help. My wife joined me for the audition. She doesn’t listen with me, yet she indulges me when I ask her to listen to my latest tweak. After hearing a couple of songs from the Sarah/open baffle system she leans in and whispers in my ear, “You are buying this.”
In closing I have to state that meeting Steve Deckert made me even more confident about the company and the components Decware produces. Steve is an artist. He knows what it takes to design excellent sounding audio.
I am looking forward to getting my Sarah and Decware phono preamp. Three years, isn’t too long to wait for something this wonderful.
So Cryotone tubes. Sounds like should order the full compliment and cancel the stock tubes that come with it. What say you?
Yesssss!! Your wife is awesome! I vote full cryotone on Sarah amp! Its Stellar!!!!
"After hearing a couple of songs from the Sarah/open baffle system she leans in and whispers in my ear, “You are buying this.”
You sir are a very lucky man.
Lucky man indeed, but I'll give you one better. I went for speakers, my wife bought them for me.
I know that means she has to endure me less, but I rather ignore that 😂
I love listening to your clips before bed 🫠
Lol
Hi. Thank you for this video. I appreciate so much your enthusiasm and willingness to take the tube plunge. I understand so well the importance of quality tubes. Cryotone I would love to try. Seem like very promising new production tubes.
I have a Wellsinton R800i-805 amp with the stock 274B rectifier tube (Wellsinton labeled Shuguang I guess). I rolled it to Sophia Electric Aqua2. The difference is day/night. The treble just opens up.❤ From what I heard, I think good rectifier could just supply high freq current better when those 300B called for. But I cannot adjust the 300B bias to the manual spec 120mA because Aqua2 274B can supply 220mA so the bias for each tube just go down to 110mA. My new amp is LM-845 premium using diode rectifiers so can't listen to 274b anymore.😢
Hey Caveman, a huge thank you for this! I've had my Doge 10 for a couple of years and I'm ready to try an upgrade. I won't try 20 different tubes, I will just start and end here. Take care!
Eh mamma mia... stop making me spend money
You could take this one step further and argue the importance of a DC power conditioner over the rectifier. Same rabbit hole with similar arguments. Pros and cons.
So many layers!
I hear you. Let me tell you, that in my 50+ years of owning many expensive gears and many custom-made, modded pieces, and of course including tube gears I'm finally staying and enjoying class D. For several reasons you had mentioned like the available 'quality' from even well known and in the past respected brands. For the price of ONE tube or less I can roll OPT amps, that break in much easier, and LAST. I don't have to worry about searching for the matching replacement and dish out a ton of money.
An OPT amps will last longer, ALL your tubes combined and won't lose quality like tubes do after a short time of months, and these OPT amps drive both my LII Audio W-15 bass drivers with ease, and the bass volume is at around the 10 o'clock position and never needs more, yet it weights under 16 lbs. total. I need a better mike to record my system's quality better, and because at times it gets downgraded by YT because they don't like some of my comments, that don't fit...their demented criteria online. Just click on my name. Anyway Class D came a long way baby................
Class d does sound great now.
@@hificave Yep... it does, and without headaches, and endangering ones the bank account 🙂
I’ve had Walthen Crtotone au7 and ax7’s in my DecWare ZP3 phono stage for over a year.
These had better air and imaging than all the previous tubes I used. Just bought a oa3wc and 5u4gb-wc. I didn’t know these were available.
How do you like the 5u4g?
PS- That was me watching your video reviews and being so excited, but so tired, and trying to watch the last golden seconds as you lulled me to sleep... HA
Whaaaaat? Lol
Damn background music, out on the deck watching this with headphones. I hear a greathorned owl and rush in to find out if our cats outside, wife's out there yelling for him. Apparently the cat not worry!
The background music ducked, and minus 16 db to my voice track. The owl is real tho.
Yes, tubes do matter. I bought LinLai 6SN7 and they are dead quiet and do sound superb. Looks like a good alternative. What brand are the cryotone tubes?
I have a quick question, I am about to get my Sarah amp, and I wanted to know if you're running yours through the Puritan 156 you had raved about? Also did you know that Wathen can cryo your whole amp for $600, they claim that it's even more effective than cryo on tubes.
Puritan is always in my system.
I found my rectifier tube in my Sophia Electric Aqua II.
Nice!!
I wish i would have known about Crytone before buying Raytheon 5670's for my Audio Note Dac(with adapters), the Raytheons sound great, subtly better than the bugle boy logo 6dj8's i had. Now im curious about the Crytone 396a. My preamp and dac uses 6202/6x4/ez90 rectifiers, but Wathan does not offer these. My preamp uses 6072/12AY7 and my power amp uses 6550 and 6bx7, none offered by Wathan Crytone. I wonder if they do custom cryo treatments. They're apparently located in Houston where i live.
Reach out to them, Don and his folks are great people. They might have tubes that are not on the site.
I almost bought one after watching this video. but shipping cost to canada killed all my enthusiasm…😂
My birthday is coming 😉lolll great video 👍
Yeah I want to get you cryotone kt88
@@hificave would be interesting on my amp 🤔
@@HifiBoomer wish it was tube rectified.
I’d need a tube amp w/ a mono switch if there is such a thing because I have mono vinyl and CDs. My restored Pioneer SX1250 has it and tone controls😊 I’m a tube noob!
you can get a phono amp with a mono switch, you can get a plug-in stereo to mono, heck you can even buy a mono cartridge
You need to visit this year's Decfest!
I know. I want to.
Just watched thomas's video coverage on your system. I wonder if you are to do this all over again, what would you do with 5k, 10k, 20k budget.
Good question! Great idea for a video
I'd like to try these with my Cayin CS55a, they have several options for the 12ax7 tube, not sure which one would be best...any advice? Thank you!
You like mid or details?
Long plate gold man. Thats what I’d do with cayin cs55a
@@hificave ummm....both? haha
@@hificave thank you! I've got a Decware Zen coming sometime too!
The greatest barriers to wider adoption of tubes is the potential expense involved in tube rolling and the patience it requires to fully evaluate them. Arguably, it's a game for those who are well off and who have too much time on their hands... ;-)
Production level - GOD MODE.... :)
God mode???? IDDQD
If and when you can PLEASE compare the Decware vs Fezz 300B's.
I dont have access to fezz products for now. If the opportunity comes up, I will definitely do so.
you say you used 12BH7 made by cryotone. there is not manufacturer by that name. theyre a resell company that puts tubes they purchase thru a cryogenic process before they rebrand and resell them.
im very curious what tubes they treat and rebrand--do you know what tubes they treat and rebrand?
i very much enjoy your descriptions.
I do not officially know. I think its more than one source. Some, have looked similar to JJ. But its the sound… no comparison to JJ in sonic quality.
gotcha, @@hificave. the tubes on their website all look like generic chinese to me. i got real excited about seeing 12BH7.
you stated they were used in mastering labs. what legit mastering labs/engineers are using cryotone tubes?
What speakers are you using with the Sarah?
Diy open baffle using lii-song full range drivers
@@hificave thank you
Hi, I live in Sweden. Where can you buy Cryotone tubes?
www.wathenspeakers.com/products.html
I thought I was bad. I only use 18 tubes to play a tune :)
Hahahahahaha! 18!!! What a looooooser!! Just kidding. You’re awesome.
I recently bought a preowned (2004) Sira Preamp that has 18 tubes driving my 300B amp. That preamp took my system to a level I never thought possible. Plus the glow in the dark is mesmerizing.
@@ronniecramer1252 I also like the tube glow. Like watching a fireplace.
I don't know if it is psychological that I like the sound better. But it seems to have space around the sounds that is rare in the solid state amps I have owned or heard.
My amp only uses 4. Are the rest for heating, or just cozy visuals ;-)
@@HD-su9sq I have 110W OTL monoblocks. There are 3 small signal tubes and 4 large 6c33c power triodes per channel. Then my digital source has a dual mono output with a rectifier and a triode per channel. So 9 triodes per channel.
So all of the above. Good sound, visuals and a cozy source of heat.