British troops learn how to hide from kamikaze drone threat
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- Опубліковано 12 тра 2024
- Stretched out across a sandy corner of northern Poland, 2,500 British troops are taking part in one of several huge Nato manoeuvres.
Exercise Immediate Response is designed to test their ability to quickly reinforce the alliance’s eastern flank and deter Russia.
With Ukraine just 450 miles to the east, 1 Royal Welsh has built a trench system to practise concealment, hiding from the threat of kamikaze drones.
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The issue is, nobody can move large armored formations anymore. The moment there is such a target, the entire area is blanketed with ordinance delivered mines, then the slowed or immobilized assets are pummeled with pinpoint artillery, and then swarmed with drones.
It used to take a very unlucky artillery strike to take down even an immobilized AFV. Today, the crew is lucky if it has time to bail out and get away before the AFV is destroyed, and escape becomes impossible because of the saturation of shells around them.
yup.. air fights and small battle groops and arty is the way
Source: UA-cam videos and FPS lobbies.
Depends on the electronic warfare capability.
depends on air superiority. Which NATO will have
Thats why air superiority is paramount.
60 year old 432s. And im not convinced Ajax will be any better protected from drones.
hahahaha, yeah, to hide they are staying in their little island.
LONDONISTAN is fukd anyway
a fraction of NATO's firepower, and literally all of britains working challenger 2s
Nah UK ordered 447 Challenger 2s and they don't export apart from 14 to Ukraine. Western tanks are designed to save the crews lives so they need spares
Apparently they are stored in NATO countries like Luxembourg and Holland for quick deployment
@@teddypicker8799 is that why the chally 2s in ukraine pop their turrets?
NATO 🌈
@@teddypicker8799 450 is the total ever built, only around 200 in active service, even smaller number than that actually able to deploy instantly.
Nice how vehicles are parked close to each other
British like to do things in style!
NATO literally just saying "DO IT, WE WANT YOU TO."
@@slwide7507 right? 1 drone = tripple kill haha
Well Russia isn't sending anything into Poland right now so not much threat.
Well noticed did you learn that on your last tour. Perhaps you should go into some advisory role with all your obvious combat knowledge.
How can they call it an army with only 70 000 soldiers and about 10 working tanks.
영국군은 한국군의 10분의 1 수준입니다...한국군은 전 유럽군대와 맞먹을 장비와 훈련된 군대를 가지고 있지요....현재 한국은 유럽을 무장시키고 있습니다...평화의 꿈에 취한 유럽인들을...
@@jay-124 lol cope
This is all well and good, but ideally now needs to be scaled up tp 10's of thousands of men asap!! The British Army is at disgracefully low numbers.
People have wisen up.
Old generation call this new one ''soft''.
There's nothing soft about being intellectually aware that your life is off little value to men in suits at the top who create these wars because of ego if you truly think about it, It's 2024, it's not the Roman Empire era anymore where land was an actual strategic benefit... The enemy today is your own people in most cases today.
Good luck convincing me risking dying for feminists, not gonna happen bud, even with forced conscription. Grafting for 18 hours a day the past 3 years to stay afloat, yet I have to fight and die for that?
HAHAHAHA
*The British economy worse than is was in the 1930's*
@@johnsluggeralways money for illegals though. Maybe they should be enlisted in our army. They might even then change their mind about coming here
Good luck with that.
Nobody wants to die for no reason outside of Ego
@@ddontyy I'd give my life to protect innocent people.
Drones are a new threat to be taken very seriously. What are the answers?
Yeah I was expecting cope cages or something visually obvious. There isn’t anything that looks like newer electronic counter measures either on the armor.
Teeny- tiny SAMs?
Or a drone bodyguard?
@@alanmcmillan6969 Interceptor drones?
EW and Trophy APS systems.
Everyone's got a plan until they get the first punch.
Which is why ‘Actions On’ is the most important part of operational orders at what ever level.
Incorrect
But good try.
The real quote is:
“Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the face by a migrant”
@@AntoineWilliams7118 they are coming, hide your wamen
like russia hahah losers cant even beat Ukraine
They better build a turtle tank
Prolly too damaging for their marketing team. Can't really see the curves of the tank if it's under a shed.
Well, until they make a proprietary version that solves all the problems the shed introduces
Except of ccourse they are still vulnerable to mines and once your Tank/AFV is immobile its a dead duck!
@@davidyoung5830 turtle tanks aren't vulnerable to mines. They're built to clear mines.
@@P3RF3CTD3ATHthey are vulnerable to practically every thing because they have zero situational awareness
The British Army should just buy up all the toy quadcopters on sale on the Gadget Store and start practicing the same fpv tactics Russia is using.
Very quickly you will run out of tanks.
And aircraft. Also airfields :-) Hypersonic missiles 70 miles in 40 sec ! Try hide from that fools.
I have a friedn in the brish army, and I can promise you they have many drone teams that work with many types of advanced drones.
Secondly, ukraine is using a tiny amount of tanks compared to what NATO has, and Russia hasn't managed to take them out. So I'm not sure why you think Russia would somehow do better against a far more adanved army than what they are failing against right now
@@alexscharf3244 unless you can rig up a massive robotic kevlar umbrella for all of your armour (not a bad idea in my opinion) cheap drones are gonna walk all over anything expensive on the frontline.
Fools lol Russia can't even take Ukraine....
Who's the fool (Russia) don't start what you can't finish.
@@olivere5497 iron fist active protection systems on the latest Bradley variants in theory can be used against drones as well.
Back to the 80’s for all these that remember Spearpoint et al!
And Iron Hammer, Reforger etc.
Yeah, lots of exercises back in the day, plowing through the fields, sleeping in a hay barn, getting hit by a A10 (according to the referee.🥺 ) ...But now we moved 800 kilometers closer to Moscow.
Throughout history, N.A.T.O has been standing for "No Action Talk Only". Which is actually good.
The answer: air based electronic warfare for live controlled drones and cheap interceptors like APKWS for long range GPS guided drones like "Shahed" for example
Although you did say APKWS for Shahed which is definitely a more reasonable cost comparison.
@@nic.h By the way, I think that modernized APKWS with IIR and target recognition will be great against cruise missiles also if based on air platform
I think a multi-layer defense is a great idea. The US army's Maneuver-Short Range Air Defense (DE M-SHORAD) Stryker vehicles with 50-Kilowatt laser would be a better first-line defense. They are already doing real-world testing in the Middle East but they are encountering issues like overheating. If they can fix that, it would be great. The enemy can deploy dozens of cheap drones at a time your missile storage is very limited.
What is old is new again. Nearly half of my 35 years in the army was spent on Cold War preparation including service in Germany during the 80s. It's almost laughable watching this new generation trying to come to grips with near peer, armour heavy combat. Scrambling to relearn lessons that were second nature to us. Knowledge that faded in the mad rush to 'beat swords into ploughshares' and reap the 'peace dividend' of the early 90s.
Nothing to do with that. Fact is that conventional training has nothing to do with modern war. And that is all.
@@Hereford1642 I've been retired for 6 years so I may be out of touch a bit. However, the way we trained in the 80s looks a lot like what is now going on. Air threat, camouflage, emcon security, clearing trench systems, preparing fighting positions, manoeuvering scores of armoured vehicles, tank/infantry cooperation built on mech combat teams and battle groups ...almost none of which we did in Afghanistan.
Just before I retired I was a senior umpire on an exercise where, during the inevitable spirited discussions over who won what, you snotty platoon commanders would attempt to lecture me about near peer warfare vice what I might have done over the last dozen years. I had to take a minute to explain what the hell we were doing in Germany in the 80s. During one discussion a young regular Sgt (I was a reservist by this point) said, "you can't make me a casualty due to arty... I'm in a LAV." I told him that DPICM was part of the ammo start state. Based on the blank expression on his face, I had to go on and explain Excalibur etc to him. Never heard of it.
Anyway, I have faith in our combat arms... despite all current cultural challenges. I wish them the best. That said, lots of lessons to be learned in what we did in the 80s.
@@lib556 Ukrainians haven't been all that impressed with NATO training. Many have said that if they had followed that training they would be dead.
Absolutely spot on as I too are from that era spending many years in Artillery Regiments stationed in BAOR. A lot of what you said brought back memories of huge exercises in Germany and numerous Active Edge call outs on the IGB to defensive positions under radio silence. Our troops are small in number and whilst professional as always are not well versed in this sort of Warfare.
@@lib556no it’s very different, AA is almost removed from the equation because hitting a drone is so difficult, drones also basically make camo useless if they use Thermals….
You can’t even compare the two anymore
British Armed Forces caught with their pants down after a decade of cuts.👏🏼
Londonistan is FUKD anyway.
Yawn..we've woken up now so play another tune.
I dont see any drone during the exercise😃
try 7 decades of cuts and you are closer
God bless the “Ruperts” - meant in the most cheeky 1982 Falklands humour.
yall are underestimating gamers eye sight
Unless you can build a tracked C-RAM/SPAAG weapon system on an armoured vehicle chassis and attach them to tank troops and Armoured infantry platoons to maintain the airspace is clear and stop drones kamikaze attacks or co-ordinating artillery fire you're going to have a rough time, but don't worry I'll fully expect it to be an urgent operational requirement about 2 years into conflict after trying the "old-new" way for the Infantry Corps and Royal Tank Squadron if instant sunshine isn't used.
But Russia is failing against Ukraine, how could they compete with the UK?
@@alexscharf3244 Yes. The Russians are retreating westward.
😂😂😂until you face the actual drone you will see how far you learned
they learned nothing. they haven't fought a serious battle since the WW2 like ukrainian army and russian army did.
This are the same guys that trained the ukrainian battalion that got wiped out in months ROFL..
@@matiasd.c9949you can be the best battalion in the world and still get mortared
I wonder how long could this Brit would last a week or a month?
We were making fun of Russian tank being vulnerable to Kamikaze drones early in the war. The reality is after seeing how Leopard, Abrams, Challenger also be vulnerable to kamikaze drones and having had to include Cope Cages.
Even Israeli mercava's are using cop cage armor!
Strange we all thought Western equipment wouldn't be just as susceptible - not that drones will make MBT's obsolete in combined-arms warfare, but the race should be on to find proper protection that isn't just welding some steel beams to the turret. Remains to be see what everyone comes up with.
Cope cages block APS, hence why they aren't used on vehicles that have them.
Leo Abrams and challenger does not have cope cages because they don't do anything
they don't even have protection from drones on the third year of war. lol
Their normal procedure is to leap 200 feet into the air and scatter themselves over a large area
One problem with where they are practicing, very few of the drone attacks accured in forested areas.
Yep as soon as they come out of the woods there done
i really hope the uk is learning from the ukraine war and over coming the problems. dont just say you are.
They're learning how to launder money just the the US is doing. Remember when a certain half of the US congress said $5 billion for a wall was wasteful? Now they say $200 billion to fund a border in another country is NOT wasteful.
NATO organisers will be scrutinising all that is going on in UA The SAS will be there analysing tactics ,EW and Logistics among other things
Learning for what exactly
Londonistan and their LGBTQ army learning...
notin
Don't really think so. Peacetime officers get promoted by being good at fitting in and doing what they are told, not by by non-conformist and innovative.
>not a single fpv drone operator in the brigade
>no cages on tanks like in russian or israel army
>no jammer on tank or other transport
I can imagine what the russian army would do with these clowns
yeah they'll show em just like they showed ukraine...lol
Army should buy the 🇩🇪 Skynex air defence system as an urgent operational requirement, it’s ready to go and essential if our expensive armour is to survive
Drones are the new weapon and they can take out the cheapest tank T-72 and expensive Challenger 2 just as easy
That tactic will definately win wars....hiding.....Rule Brittania. lol
Stealth is definitely an advantage in combat. Hard to hit things when you don't know where they are
The problem is the tank being so thin on the top of tanks. enough explosive mass and there’s a big hole in the top. I think if they add cope cages and ERA on the top face (looking down from top down view) of the tank you’d have a better chance
I saw a video of a drone going in search to target the Turtle tank . It qas so weird to see a house move ..
In the past, tanks move with armoured infantry to counter troops with bazookas..
I feel now tanks need to move with Short range Anti Air cover, for every 4 tanks there has to be a mobile anti air to constantly detect drones and counter it..
Brings back memories of doing this stuff back in the 80s. Its a style of fighting that should not have been allowed to lapse. Unfortunately the military and strategy experts really aren't that expert. History is never wrong
Personally I guess not easy to avoid the drone threat, given that the drones are being improved constantly from time to time as well as they are much cheaper and lighter as compared to conventional military vehicles...
Has nato not watched a single ukraine video?? the tactics are 50 years behind.
It's the other way around, mate. NATO army would have air superiority negating the importance of drones
@@teddypicker8799 How? How does air superiority have impact on thousands of drones with RPG heads strapped onto them? The quadcopters are the revolution because every battalion can afford it and they are so cheap
드론이 전쟁을 결정한다
@averagebohemian5791 if you have to ask then there's no point answering
@@averagebohemian5791 good luck getting more of those RPG rounds to the front when you run out because your logistics supply is getting constantly hammered.
They work together as WWII. God save our soldiers🙏🏻
Yes Germans and British work together against the bear, just like in ww2.
They're being set up to fight against a ww2 ally. Not good, not clever and who does it benefit, because it's definitely not the troops that's for sure.
@@Gigantus636haha Russia never did anything like installing regimes and police states in any Eastern Europe. Pfff laughable bot you are.
You and US are escalating in all conflicts, maybe karma come somedays
Look up Tucker's interviews about how Christians are being treated in Ukraine.
wow! British troops at last have learned a very valuable lesson gained in the war of Ukraine...! - hide.
That is the 1st step. 2nd step is to run.
물결강판으로 참호를 만들고 지붕까지 만든 것은 아주 좋은 드론방어책이다...
미군의 배럭 같은 것임...굿....
They say drones, I see concentration. How is it?
the formation shown isnt a wartime formation its peacetime on an exercise quite possibly at the end of the exercise
For any enemy…
Does it still make sense for the US to maintain NATO if it takes its national interests into account?
Countries in Western Europe like Germany pursue a mercantilist economic model.
To do this, they are dependent on cheap energy from Russia and large export markets like China.
The USA is currently "protecting" Germany with thousands of soldiers, a nuclear shield and hundreds of military bases.
The resulting political influence that the USA has on Germany has not been able to prevent economic relations with China from becoming even more intense in recent weeks.
In my opinion, Chancellor Scholz's trip to China in April was a clear sign that Germany is not prepared to cut its economic ties with China.
And given this reality, the USA will sooner or later give up its military involvement in Europe.
Loitering munitions are a major threat to armor these dats... You take a good year to train an MBT crew only for that highly trained crew to die within days on hit fronts like Kharkiv; is armor on the way out???
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Is this an exercise or is this a deployment? I wouldn't want to bring them back from there too early.
I hope NATO is training with an overmatch ability, as he talks he doesn’t leave me with that impression
British infantry are the best but Warrior IFV isn’t ready to face auto cannons. Coming from a former Warrior crewman, I’d rather be on foot.
and AJAX just isn't ready.
Ill grant you that warriors are one of the more outdated IFV's when it comes to the major NATO countries. But arent they still on par with something like a BMP2M?
Did you lot every change all your warriors to the CTAS varient?
Serious question. What do you think would actually protect you on the Ukraine Russia battlefield.
@@Hereford1642 airpower and lots of it.
If only we’d updated those Warriors.
I saw today that 70 or 90 will be sent to Ukraine
we tried to with the WCSP. i was working on it for almost 8yrs. got so sick to death of the mismanagement of it by the MOD (along with another project i could see going nowhere) and the revolving door of desk officers trying to put their mark on it that i quit working in defence after a 12yr career in it. less than a year after i quit, they canned the project.
collosal waste of time and money. glad to see the back of it.
They just need to keep the Warriors in reserve instead of scrapping them, a real war might actually result in an upgrade programme that wont bankrupt us. Ukraine has demonstrated the value of long term storage of older equipment for mass mobilisation and replenishment, the British Army's habit of instantly destroying any piece of equipment the moment it goes out of service leaves us chronically unable to absorb any significant casualties leaving us with nothing to fall back on.
Hell we only ever made 350k SA80s, thats less than the number of conscripts Russia mobilized in October 2022 alone and Britain no longer has a small arms factory that can produce any more. We have no SLRs left either because the MoD destroyed all the stocks so what are our reservists going to do if it all kicks off? throw rocks?
This are the same guys that trained the ukrainian battalion that got wiped out in months ROFL 😂😁😂
@@matiasd.c9949 u ok mate u seem kind of upset over something, did the royal marine instructors personally kick u out the army or something lmao ? you've replied to multiple random people with the exact thing and they aren't even copy and pasted messages as they use different emojis and punctuation each time, your clearly bothered by something if your willing to waste your time repeatedly typing the same thing over and over again.
However no offence I think your time would be better spent somewhere else like Facebook, I feel as though in a UA-cam comment section people are just going to laugh at you here.
Todays Uk army is a joke, . Without its usual UsA master, it would stand 1 month on a real front line war
The USA conventionally maybe a month longer.
Send out certain frequencies to jam radio control: switch comms to either
1.) off like submarines do, or like back when they sent letters too each other. (you don't need a verbal motivation from HQ to shoot someone in the face)
2.) for emergency comms, go Fiber optic and have the Transceiver of the unit somehow deaf to jamming frequencies, and the HQ transceiver should be out of the EMP zone unless it's large.
or you could boost comms frequency to really high, you'd think a drone would have limited battery, like 2200-7000 MAH, to keep it light and disposable, so it's transmission and receiving would be lower power so if they trace the comm field it's like 30 miles away instead of 30'.
I'll expect my bucket list items fulfilled before 2050, thank you.
Drones are King these days
They are training to hide themselves - like the Challenger tanks !!!
You never see the one that kills you..
@@Sunscreen1973 cuz it sunk in the mud?
@user-kh3nz9lb2k not much mud in the video mate ;)
@user-kh3nz9lb2k not much mud in the video mate ;)
@@user-kh3nz9lb2k not much mud in the video mate ;)
Wars go on for decades equipment gets blown up put out of action
The REAL question should be: wtf is britain doing in ukraine????
Money and corruption at an epic scale within Western politics.
You must know that the military army, like the football team, must always train and practice its work!
We have no counter to drones on the level they're being used in Ukraine
Not true at all.
There is a fairly solid counter drone strategy that has been developed, in part thanks to the effort and experience of our Ukrainian allies, that is well established now. Drones have been a thing for a long while.
What strategy? there is none, I am not being negative but we have no systems like Sky Ranger. Warrior, Challenger, Boxer and Ajax have no APS system that can counter drones atm we would lose people and vehicles with hardly any back up vehicles in reserve. Need to switch spending to 5 or 6% and sort it out.
@@pluemas Oh yeah - what strategy? I see the Russians have started building massive metal sheds around the outside of their tanks lol
@@Tripl3blue that's because the Russians don't know what they're doing and haven't been a modern fighting force since the 90s. APS and other systems are incredibly effective at dealing with these threats. Theres a multilayered strategy entirely around it.
Mighty Challenger still hidden from frontline?😂😂
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Mighty Game Changer 🤣🤣
Russians run away from Challenger deployment.
@@MultiVeeta 🤡😁
@@user-ho7me9dd5y facts hurt.
With so few Challengers it is easy to avoid confrontation.
Have you practiced hiding from the kamikaze "Sarmata"?
Is anyone looking at earth boring equipment to speed up the dig ins?
Russia has only gotten more belligerent since NATO keeps expanding East.
Minsk accord
as effective as "Duck and Cover".
British troops learn how to hide from kamikaze drone threat
In other words?
'We have not got a clue how to reasonably stop these things yet.'
☮
Does anyone?
Never seen such a ridiculous comment on a video before.
@@McRocket
Ahhh so someone with an opinion is a “troll” now are they.
You are pathetic.
I can't see any protections against drones on those machines🤓🤓🤓🤓
"AI" will render electronic counter-measures useless.
100% and when they swarm your done.
No it won't you . AI needs sensors to function same as everything else. 🙄
@@ASpyNamedJames Try jamming a camera from 1 km away.
@@ASpyNamedJames EW systems doesn't typically impact sensors including cameras. They work by yelling loud enough that the drones signal can't be heard within the noise. So are essentially completely ineffective against a drone that doesn't need to transmit that signal
interesting how they aren't including anti drone tech on these tanks
Have they learned nothing ? The equipment is to close together making it an easy target
they arent in a war formation they are meeting up at the end of an exercise
@@davedixon2068 The exercise is in a forward position and as part of it they should be practicing dispersal.
@@stevencharnock9271 note the last words on my post "end of an exercise" they are meeting up for a debrief post exercise they have finished the "war" and are positioned for convenience
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you can’t hide you just get lucky
We need energy shields!
We need to keep our nose out of things that do not concern us. Trade with Russia don't fight it as there is only one outcome a defeat. GO ask a German.
Hahahah. I take shields instead.
@@michaeldawson6309 no thanks, zero desire to trade with countries acting like common criminals.
Making turtle shell
ECM
Russians are testing drones rquipped with fibre optic cable.
Just make a turtle tank
Why are you preparing for war against drones?? Meaning you're preparing against Russia
dont be dense everyman and his dog will be using drones in large numbers from now on
What you think everyone should ignore Russia's behaviour and threats over the last few years
The Bulldog will outlive us all.
Absolutely ridiculous destroying the Environment.. !
It's the opposite, military training areas are among the most thriving wildlife regions in Europe. They are vast and seldom disturbed, often serving as the last sanctuary for endangered species.
The device that you posted this message from contributed to destroying the environment.
Ridiculous that you are using it. /s
You can have the best tanks and armoured vehicles in the world but as we've seen their all vulnerable to drone attack. It's looking more and more likely that war with Russia is unavoidable sadly it seems as though neither side learned anything from the first two World Wars even with such similarities. This coming war I fear will be far far worse for all mankind if the madness ensues
영국군은 한국군의 10분의 1 수준입니다...
한반도에서 남북은 2백만에 달하는 대군이 휴전선에서 대치하고 있습니다...
한국군은 전 유럽군대와 맞먹을 장비와 훈련된 군대를 가지고 있지요....
현재 한국은 유럽을 무장시키고 있습니다...
평화의 꿈에 취한 유럽인들을...
you can not hide from X-Wings
So let’s tell the whole world how to do this???????
Still think they should have accepted the Iron Fist APS from the Black Night program for Challenger and added it with the development of Challenger 3 - a hard kill active protection system against HEAT and slower moving munitions would have been better and long term far more useful. The system in a LONG TERM basis would have saved loads of money for the tax payer and the government, by making the vehicles more survivable. it makes you ask the question, what is worse? spending the money on the iron fist system, and then the cost of one use of it, or spending another £4m-£9m on a new tank, not including trained crew to replace the one that isn't able to protect against HEAT warheads or low speed projectiles? because in the long run, the APS system would surely be better for both vehicle and crew. its just typical that the people who don't have to use the vehicles get to choose what the vehicles get based on cost cutting and having no idea what is good or not while not realizing that their "cost cutting" is basically saying "we value the money we save more than the life you lose".
The challenger 3 will be a mix of the BAe and Rhinematal prototypes, it has the new turret with the aps and all the other upgrades. Just look it up
@@mic4831 yeah I have, they arnt going to use any APS systems due to funding, and there is 0 confirmation of blow-out pannels within the turret even with the new smoothbore gun because of cost cuts hel, there isnt even any evidence of them on the vehicle itself; it still fits the old challenger 2 ROMOR ERA package on the hull, so they will likely reuse that despite its obvious weaknesses and vulnerabilities to peer to peer adversaries. the only real change from challenger 2 to challenger 3 is better armour, potentially a new engine, new gun and new electronic equipment internally such as cameras and CITV improvements; not much else has changed.
@@kaiotie1thats 3 sources, first two are UK gov and the last is from RSBL group, the modifications are extensive, i dont know if it will have blowout pannels as they are vauge on the survivability improvements
@@kaiotie1to summerise:
A new armour package and aps, new sensor package and digital infastructure; gen 2 thermals for both gunner and commander: new 1500hp engine; next gen hydro gas suspension; and a new turret with the 120mm smoothbore gun.
There is more but look at the sources i linked
Britian really has to acquire new material for their army. Those Warriors are ancient by modern standards, the Bulldogs even more so. I have immense respect and admiration for the British military, easily some of the best lads I've ever met, but it's pathetic to have them operate with such outdated equipment.
May be sounds like a joke,but why doesnt tanks hide in a really bad decoy of a tank ?.should be brilljant idea!. Or have a column of vehicles under camouflage band.and you only can distinguish very good the shapes of decoys under the camouflage,while the real ones you cant see the shape .should be very confusing for kamicace drones and other precision artilleri,
Remember being part of 7 Armd Bde, when we were the 1st UK troops to deploy there in 1996. We have never been to a place that was so “dark” at night. It was interesting to note at the time, that an area was laid out which gave a similar type of terrain to the “Minden Gap”
Think cold war not desert storm.
Desert Storm was so one sided. This will be another level just ask the Ukrainians how they got on after 10 years training ! What fools we all are.
Putin really REALLY does not want to escalate things with NATO.
All the more reason his troll factories are so vocal right now, trying to bamboozle the rest of the Europe into thinking Russia has a cause and a competent army.
@danielcamacho1913
Just remind me, what was the last large-scale successful action carried out by the American or British armies?
@@danielcamacho1913 you do realise that RU forces have occupied a region half the size of Poland?
@@ConradAinger Name the last large scale operation where they were beaten on the battlefield?
Quitting under socio-political pressure is NOT the same thing as losing, or being defeated. Details and context my guy, details and context.
Hahahaha
This is impossible I guess.
I was strongly of the opinion that the use of smaller drones was signaling a paradigm shift in warfare, but now I'm not quite as sure of that.
I understand that Ukraine has some very advanced drones and has used them quite effectively against Russia, especially in deep penetration missions. But Russian soldiers are using a very common weapon against drones that are used tactically against them: shotguns. If shorter-ranged anti-personnel and anti-vehicle drones can be countered by military-grade shotguns, maybe at least as far as tactical drones are concerned the impact won't be as large as initially though.
Drone warfare will come to maturity with swarms and AI autonomous control. There will be no hiding and this will be very cheap to deploy. Tanks et al are just targets and profit for the MIC
What have those countries fight anybody that can shoot back not people on horse back
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what's this, instructors who are not having actual real combat experience ? at this point, UA troops are way more experienced than any NATO troops.
Literally no cage on the turret? Useless
Russia wont fight that with tanks or drones, they will use tactical nukes.
Lord, have mercy!
Yikes, like they did last week?
Almost completely unlikely they would use nukes, and even if they did they would have to except the fact that their country would also be obliterated.
Bye bye RAF Lakenheath.
They'll get it back
All these army videos... Prince William in a Apache Helicopter....something tells me we are not far off WW3
And all this because NATO would never stop expanding otherwise. Ah well, I guess we're too stupid a species to be alive.
Prince Billy will be just another target. I bet the Royal fools will be no where to be seen on the Russian front ! They appear with advanced weapons to chase men in sandals ! Cowards.
Forces News, is there a reason we don't see any tunneling machinery here on this test or in use in Ukraine? Small tunnel borers could dig 50m to 100m a day. Within a few weeks you can move a lot of guys behind the enemy line, attack front and back, cut off their resupply.
And you have the tunnels for protection from drones.
House builders use conveyer belts for moving the muck from the ground. There are small enough diggers and borers, that pass the much behind them, onto conveyor belts. Hand diggers can also throw muck onto the belts.
The muck could be thrown/stacked around areas/machinery you want to protect. We seen the corrugated sheets. Throw the muck against the exposed side of those sheets and it's good protection.
Those drones must be weak to mud. If they can't see, they can't hit, right? So what about a water squirter with dirty/sticky fluid? Or if it's powerful enough or will knock out the drone. Even using the muck from the digging into a compressed pipe and aimed at incoming drones, surely that would have an effect like shrapnel. No ammunition necessary, just compressed air and dirt.
Could easily have multiple tubes pre filled with compressed dirt and air, fixed around the vehicle. Or on an aiming system. Very very cheap. Reusable. Refillable. Can also be taken off the vehicle and used to protect troop areas as a form of trip wire defence.
They can run out of ammo. They won't run out of dirt.
Smoke is well developed and likely better at blocking vision than mud.
defend from drones? OK.... all you have to worry about now is the Yanks.
It's taken a while! It’s what happens when you finally fight a foe not restricted to sandals and ak47's
Having commercially available drones is hardly the pinnacle of technology that only a super army could acquire 🤣.
@@Observer-xc6fp So, you are saying that drones and the missing link as to why the aforementioned ‘Sandals & ak47’ gen didn’t win? (LOOL)
@@noisyboy87
“So you are saying”
Form a better argument.
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What a surprise to see playlists of videogames on your profile🤣
@@noisyboy87 But... they DID win.
emmmm, the drones are faster than the top speed of the challenger 2 and as we saw from ukraine a landmine has no trouble disabling a challenger 2 and a missile has no trouble popping its turret
I have never seen a Challenger pop a turret. Are you sure you weren't watching Russian tanks?
@@iambiggus indeed. Either he trolls either he is mistaken with another type of tank
@@iambiggus to be fair i hate to say it, but the chally 2 that died in ukraine did pop the turret
No the chally 2 that was destroyed in ukraine saved its crew but the turret did (not pop off like the Russians) but moved off the tank slightly
@@natacus1234 severe cope
about the mentioned Afghanistan. THEN YOU HAVE TO PAY REPARATIONS for the occupation
Try moving quickly in the Ukranian territory lol
Pomorski?