Sonic Games That're Trapped On Dead Consoles

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  • Опубліковано 11 гру 2024

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  • @simtek3475
    @simtek3475 Рік тому +629

    Apparently there’s some legal issues with Sonic Pocket Adventure that prevent SEGA from even mentioning the game ever again. Ian Flynn said that he wasn’t allowed to have the game featured in any way shape or form in the Sonic Encyclo-Speed-Ia released in 2021, when literally every other Sonic game ever was mentioned in it.

    • @polocatfan
      @polocatfan Рік тому +141

      It's because SNK developed it I'm pretty sure. They might have joint ownership. (Though I don't get why SNK wouldn't work with them on that, it's literally something they get 0 money on if they don't let SEGA use it.)

    • @Turbulation1
      @Turbulation1 Рік тому +69

      There's also the fact Knuckle's theme from Sonic 3 is in the game, might not seem like a big deal, but considering Sega seems to be scared of legal issues with the whole S3 Music Situation which caused them to just replace it with the S&K theme for origins, they would likely take note of this song too.
      And they could also just simply hire a romhacker to remove/replace the song, like Namco usually does to get around legal issues, but Sega I guess, tries to keep their hands clean?

    • @PercyPanleo
      @PercyPanleo Рік тому +48

      ​@@polocatfan It really sucks that they couldn't mention it at all, since it was technically the first Dimps game.
      I suspect the issue is due to the SNK that made Pocket Adventure and the SNK that exists today being two seperate companies. Back in 2001 SNK went bankrupt and all of their IP was transferred to Playmore (With the CEO and most of the key developers on Pocket Adventure having left a year prior to form Dimps)
      I think the issue with working with SNK on it may be less because of the game itself and more because of it being released on a Neo Geo console. SNK (Playmore) seems to be very strict with the Neo Geo brand, with, as far as I'm aware, it only being used since 2001 for At-Games style devices, the Wii Virtual Console, Super Smash Brothers Ultimate, and Switch eShop rereleases of MVS games, and the pretty disastrous Neo Geo X (Which actually may be the main source of this apparent strictness)

    • @shalpp
      @shalpp Рік тому +25

      ​@@PercyPanleowell don't forget the out of nowhere release of megaman battle and fighters

    • @svcross-do
      @svcross-do Рік тому +10

      Sonic pocket adventure is the best Sonic Handheld game. It is a must play.

  • @RariettyC
    @RariettyC Рік тому +405

    The image in my head of a Sega exec at a press event just going up to the mic and saying "Sonic '06" and nothing else to announce a rerelease, in a moment akin to that time at E3 1995 when a Sony exec said "299" and basically preemptively killed the more expensive Sega Saturn, is hilarious

    • @Jelly_shy_guy_man
      @Jelly_shy_guy_man Рік тому +13

      ZU WE MAMA

    • @Carsonj13
      @Carsonj13 Рік тому +4

      Since when is 299 a cheaper price than 299?

    • @sonc07
      @sonc07 Рік тому +18

      @@Carsonj13the saturn was selling for 399

    • @Carsonj13
      @Carsonj13 Рік тому +5

      @@sonc07 At first.... But by the end of '95, all 32-bit systems were the exact same price: 299. The point I was alluding to is that price had absolutely nothing to do with demise of the Saturn. It's a common misconception that people make for some reason, even though there are plenty of instances where the more expensive console outsold its competition. The Jaguar for instance was 149 in '95, did it "kill" the PlayStation, or even the 3DO for that matter? Nope.

    • @MattTOB618
      @MattTOB618 Рік тому +7

      ​​​@@Carsonj13 That's because the Atari Jaguar was already out for two years by '95, only ended up having 50 licensed games of VERY mixed quality to its name, and had less overall brand recognition than their competitors, while the recognition they DID have was rather negative (they were the ones who made _E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial,_ the game that almost singlehandedly killed the gaming industry).

  • @inktendo
    @inktendo Рік тому +242

    Sega should have ported SegaSonic for the DS/3DS or Wii U and emulated the trackball on the touch screen

  • @danyo5786
    @danyo5786 Рік тому +167

    Sonic and the Black Knight was pretty good from what I played: granted I wasn't using motion controls (dolphin), and at it's core lies a pretty simple and fun game. They should release it along with Secret rings, and just ditch the motion controls entirely, update the graphics, make them run at a higher frame rate, and fix some jank.

    • @ridgenyan-botxv367
      @ridgenyan-botxv367 Рік тому +14

      They could pretty easily do a switch port for the games. Similar to the Wii version of Star wars the force unleashed

    • @tobylopez4514
      @tobylopez4514 Рік тому +4

      black knight is amazing

    • @bladefox5082
      @bladefox5082 Рік тому +7

      Black knight is legitimately a top 5 sonic game if you don’t use motion controls

    • @PayForViewsJST
      @PayForViewsJST 7 місяців тому +1

      If not which port the games need a straight up remastered instead of a collection The universal hatred for the controls and the unbalanced skill cap of sonic and the secret rings Needs to be tone down I disagree entirely with him While 06 is a travesty I believe secret rings are black and I have merit

    • @jpedrovianna
      @jpedrovianna 2 місяці тому

      I think the Black Knight is not that bad with motion controls on the Wii. It plays better than Secret Rings.

  • @extremmefan7305
    @extremmefan7305 Рік тому +104

    The one Sonic game rated 10/10 by IGN is a lost gem lmao
    Also it's a bit unfair to just slap Black Knight into the same bag as Secret Rings given it gave a lot of improvement to its formula. I'd say it's slightly more likely to be brought back for goodwill.

    • @polocatfan
      @polocatfan Рік тому +15

      yeah Black Knight is fine.

    • @TheChompChamp7650
      @TheChompChamp7650 Рік тому +4

      He’s saying Sonic The Hedgehog Pocket Adventure is a lost gem! 🤩 maybe you might be a gem!

    • @extremmefan7305
      @extremmefan7305 Рік тому +1

      @@TheChompChamp7650 I saw the game being played. It looked fun.
      So it makes sense to call it a lost gem since it's an obscure but actually pretty good title.

  • @l0pxny
    @l0pxny Рік тому +84

    i'm so glad you talked about both segasonic arcade game and knuckles' chaotix. definitely should be ported and worked on.

    • @SimonG258
      @SimonG258 Рік тому +3

      i don't think anyone cares about knuckles' chatoix. even kiro himself mentions this fact.

    • @SquallyCoin5664
      @SquallyCoin5664 Рік тому +8

      @@SimonG258I care about Chaotix.

    • @markofthewolvessucks8930
      @markofthewolvessucks8930 Рік тому +1

      The trackball is hard to emulate on consoles though...

    • @SquallyCoin5664
      @SquallyCoin5664 Рік тому

      @@markofthewolvessucks8930 The only chances they’ve had were to rerelease on any of the DS or 3DS line of systems, Wii U, or Steam Deck, and they’ve messed it up.
      A mobile port could work hypothetically but knowing Sega’s other mobile games, it’d be littered with ads.

    • @MidiMail
      @MidiMail 4 місяці тому +3

      Knuckles Chaotix is great (imo)

  • @Cool_Kid95
    @Cool_Kid95 Рік тому +176

    I really want Knuckle's Chaotix to be remastered like the other mainline classics. It sucks so bad, but it deserves it!

    • @markfaites
      @markfaites Рік тому +20

      i dint get why people hate knuckles chaotix... i mean,the controls arent that good, but the game itself is so fun, beautiful, and overall, have you seen a better looking sonic game in the time that chaktix was released? knuckles chaotix had ones of my most favourite soundtracks of all sonic soundtracks, ever. the levels are just wonderful, but i mean, the mechanics are SUPPOSTED to be hard cause the two characters are connected with a ring together, right?
      i love that game so much..

    • @Cool_Kid95
      @Cool_Kid95 Рік тому +11

      @@markfaites I actually quite enjoy the ring tether. It's only so horrible because of the level design.

    • @markfaites
      @markfaites Рік тому +8

      @@Cool_Kid95 yeah the level design is a bit unorganized and massive so thats one complaint, but overal, the game is literal eyecandy if you dont have nerves or a good memory!

    • @Cool_Kid95
      @Cool_Kid95 Рік тому +4

      @@markfaites I find the levels empty and boring. I'd love to see the mechanics and characters used in a more traditional Sonic Game.

    • @markfaites
      @markfaites Рік тому

      @@Cool_Kid95 oooh- well its better for you than it is for me, i have a very bad memory, short term, and get disoriwnted quickly, so i find myself usually getting stuck on most of knuckles chaotix levels sometimes. i never do in any other sonic game, plus there are tons of levels and acts in chaotix

  • @LiquidSolidus9000
    @LiquidSolidus9000 Рік тому +25

    I've got a ton of nostalgia for Sonic R. I had it on PC and have memories playing it after school in 1st grade in the family computer room, and then heading back to my room to watch DBZ on Toonami :P

  • @NovikNova
    @NovikNova Рік тому +11

    Someone fixed Sonic Free Riders a little while back
    They’re fucking awesome

  • @oggiv
    @oggiv Рік тому +80

    Pocket Adventure has a better chance than you might think. There were 2 Neo Geo Pocket Collection games released not too long ago, which also include 3rd party releases (e.g the Mega Man game), so there's a chance that, if a third volume gets announced, Pocket Adventure might be a part of the lineup
    Also I'm pretty sure the original Rush was actually on the Wii U virtual console.

    • @StudioInkblot
      @StudioInkblot Рік тому +2

      That's what I was thinking. This isn't a channel I watch regularly (I think I've seen a couple videos), but that part made me really question the level of research put in

    • @newguy371
      @newguy371 Рік тому +10

      Rush was not on the eShop. It was mostly first party titles. There were probably plans on adding the games at a later date, but due to the system being a flop, those plans probably fell through.

    • @vini64
      @vini64 Рік тому +8

      ​@@StudioInkblotWell if you had done any research yourself you'd find out Sonic Rush hasn't been released on the Wii U VC...

  • @typemasters2871
    @typemasters2871 Рік тому +36

    The weird (and slightly ironic) thing about Sonic Boom games is that the games were suppose to promote cartoon
    But because of how bad the games were handles, it caused the opposite effect, having people stay way from the Sonic Boom brand just because of how bad the games were
    In short, if the sonic boom games didn’t exist, then the cartoon would have probably gotten more popular in general

  • @SaddieMoon
    @SaddieMoon Рік тому +22

    13:27
    I don’t think Secret Rings was that bad, and I really liked Black Knight.

    • @Robotta
      @Robotta Рік тому +7

      Yeah, Secret Rings was mediocre but Black Knight is a pretty good game once you play without motion controls. A re-release of both with normal controller support would fix the controls entirely.

    • @SaddieMoon
      @SaddieMoon Рік тому +2

      @@Robotta I just played the game on Wii again, and I still think the game is great on Wii.

  • @mrhalfsaid1389
    @mrhalfsaid1389 Рік тому +71

    I want rush remakes SO BAD, theyre so good and really fun. Plus the only issue is emulating the dual screen effect

    • @IvoryCaffeine_
      @IvoryCaffeine_ Рік тому +9

      Shouldn’t be too bad, the stage screen can just go up and down with sonic like the other 2D games

    • @ridgenyan-botxv367
      @ridgenyan-botxv367 Рік тому +11

      ​​@@IvoryCaffeine_ honestly, it's probably best to think of the rush games as having a single giant screen as opposed to two for figuring out how to port it

    • @markdebruyn1212
      @markdebruyn1212 Рік тому

      How you gonna solve the touch screen stuff, some of thise special stafes are brutal

    • @nicksokolowski7709
      @nicksokolowski7709 Рік тому

      ​@@markdebruyn1212Capcom already did solve this problem with the release of the Mega Man Zero/ZX Legacy Collection by having the touch screen be controlled by the right stick.

    • @RosieUV
      @RosieUV 7 місяців тому

      Make it a mobile game in portrait mode, then you can use the touch screen capabilities. The problem then is how the controls would fit, but I'm sure there's a way.

  • @spongebobfan78
    @spongebobfan78 Рік тому +49

    I really appreciate how Kiro factors the "not received well" as one of the possible reasons for no rereleases. People be like "Why Sega chose Colors instead of Unleashed when Colors sucked" forgetting that Colors, for several years, was seen as a very good Sonic game with lots of positive reviews, especially outside the fandom, which Colors Ultimate was capitalizing on with the success of the first Sonic movie. It was not until the recent years where the fandom perception changed. Meanwhile Unleashed scored BADLY and was scorned as one of the worst Sonic games by many people (mediocre at best, due to Werehog), especially outside the fandom.

    • @adrenaliner91
      @adrenaliner91 6 місяців тому +1

      I bet Colors only got a bad reputation because of "Ultimate" seriously, that game hurts the eyes...

    • @MustacheDLuffy
      @MustacheDLuffy 3 місяці тому +1

      There’s no way that the “best sonic game in 19 years” sucked at least from a commercial sense lmao

    • @MustacheDLuffy
      @MustacheDLuffy 3 місяці тому +1

      @@adrenaliner91 ultimate’s issue is the fact it’s a bad port rather than the game being bad

  • @tuna6747
    @tuna6747 Рік тому +73

    DAMN the moment this video came out I was trying to emulate Sonic Unleashed on Xenia. What a timing.

    • @Dzaimon8562
      @Dzaimon8562 Рік тому

      It's on xbox

    • @tuna6747
      @tuna6747 Рік тому +2

      @@Dzaimon8562 I know but Im not gonna buy a 500 dollar console just to play Sonic Unleashed and there are mods for Unleashed on emulation like turn off the battle music and no medal requariment. But the damn game crashes every 5 minutes.

    • @AL4IGH5
      @AL4IGH5 7 місяців тому

      @@tuna6747use xenia canary

  • @pattersong6637
    @pattersong6637 Рік тому +18

    I think you could see Sonic Shuffle if and only if they ever do a Dreamcast Mini. You need like 20 games to fill a system like that and you're gonna need a few deep cuts to fill the list out. Same with Sonic R and a Saturn Mini.

    • @FlyingDuckMan360
      @FlyingDuckMan360 Рік тому +2

      @pattersong6637 I'm one of those people who's hoping for both a Saturn Mini and a Dreamcast Mini. For the former, in addition to the Sonic games, some other IPs I'm hoping for include Baku Baku Animal, Bug!, Clockwork Knight, and NIGHTS. For the Dreamcast, I'm hoping for the two Sonic Adventure games and Shuffle, as well as Sega Bass Fishing, Jet Set Radio, Crazy Taxi, Toy Commander, Chu Chu Rocket, and Ooga Booga.

    • @pattersong6637
      @pattersong6637 Рік тому +2

      @@FlyingDuckMan360 Saturn Mini is much harder just because so many of the Saturn's best games are only in Japanese. That said, in addition to the games you listed, the Panzer Dragoon games should be on Saturn Mini. Your Dreamcast Mini list is really solid, but there are a bunch you can add like Space Channel 5, Powerstone, and Ikaruga.
      It gets hard quick to come up with 20-ish really good Saturn games IN ENGLISH for a Saturn Mini, which is one of the reasons I'm pessimistic about it though I'd love it. Dreamcast Mini should be easy.

    • @Laynel8
      @Laynel8 Рік тому +1

      @@pattersong6637 Perhaps maybe having 1 or 2 of Capcom's 2D fighting games on the Saturn mini would be cool, since at the time those versions of Capcom's arcade ports ran and played better on the Saturn compared to their PlayStation counterparts.

  • @ChloeCommentss
    @ChloeCommentss Рік тому +50

    I think authorities would prefer if we kept this disclosed, but a widespread rumor surrounding Knuckles Chaotix is that the game isn't trapped on the 32x, moreso it was imprisoned there as a corporal punishment - most likely for it introducing Charmy the Bee - however much speculation is on the topic. Any other ideas on why though?

    • @gangstasonic97573
      @gangstasonic97573 Рік тому +9

      Us Charmy stans are oppressed. We must rescue our child!

    • @spicybreadproductions1972
      @spicybreadproductions1972 Рік тому +4

      @@gangstasonic97573 we must fight for the most oppressed race of all; Charmy Stans

  • @AlexDelgado-k8j
    @AlexDelgado-k8j Рік тому +6

    That sonic arcade game looks super cute and the spritework is awesome.

  • @xamp_exclammark
    @xamp_exclammark Рік тому +7

    Sonic 06 is currently in the Xbox marketplace, it was put there in 2022 for 5 bucks.Would love the treatment for Shadow.

  • @FlyingDuckMan360
    @FlyingDuckMan360 Рік тому +7

    6:12 - Agreed. For a sequel to Sonic Shuffle, what I'd like to see in it is the same gameplay (drawing cards to move across the board and battle enemies, collecting seven gems, and the game ending when all seven are collected), but with improved AI (less likely to take your best cards even when they have the exact same ones), new playable characters (Shadow, Rouge, Cream, Blaze, and Silver), and elements more in line with the Sonic franchise (the Chaos Emeralds taking the place of the Precioustones, Dr. Eggman's Badniks taking the places of the Precioustone Monsters, and worlds like Green Hill, Chemical Plant, and Casino Night).

  • @mahirutsuyuzaki
    @mahirutsuyuzaki Рік тому +12

    Sonic 06 actually got relisted on the Xbox 360 store sometime recently but I doubt they'd add backwards compatibility even though that'd be legendary

    • @markofthewolvessucks8930
      @markofthewolvessucks8930 Рік тому +6

      Ngl I'd kill for that lol. If Plumber's Don't wear ties can be in Modern Consoles then So can 06.

  • @YoshiTheOreo
    @YoshiTheOreo Рік тому +8

    Sonic Battle NEEDS a comeback.

    • @markofthewolvessucks8930
      @markofthewolvessucks8930 Рік тому +2

      Or at least a sequel

    • @sarenix4417
      @sarenix4417 3 місяці тому +2

      Especially now that Emerl is coming back with the recent animation for Sonic X Shadow Gen. LIKE???? A REMAKE IS DEF NEEDED.

  • @JonyPlayz1
    @JonyPlayz1 Рік тому +9

    Interesting video! I honestly think the Rush series should really be the ones ported to Steam at least, they are so underrated

  • @PokemonRules141
    @PokemonRules141 Рік тому +14

    Imagine a rerelease of Sonic ‘06 that fixed all the issues with the original and then they put in a toggle to put all those issues back in.

  • @fivejedis
    @fivejedis Рік тому +18

    Sonic Advance absloutely needs a collection of some sort, or at the very least add them to the Game Boy Advance NSO. I could potentially see the Sonic Story Book games released if they were reworked to remove motion controls but that's highly unlikely.

  • @megapokesonicx
    @megapokesonicx Рік тому +9

    Black Knight was goated honestly and the motion controls were actually decent
    Still wish these games would see the light again

  • @tepigthegamer55
    @tepigthegamer55 Рік тому +3

    the first sonic games i played were shadow in my neighbor's house, sonic 4 episode 2 in my dad's ipad and i end up owning sonic riders zero gravity and black knight for the wii.
    is wild how much i love those games and the franchise as a whole after those games being my introduction to sonic.

  • @MrMegaManFan
    @MrMegaManFan Рік тому +5

    Sonic Pocket definitely deserves more exposure.

  • @Rebateman
    @Rebateman Рік тому +2

    This video not only made me find out Sonic Shuffle exists, but also that the logo seems to be potentially the inspiration of the Pokemon Shuffle logo.

  • @TheJadeFist
    @TheJadeFist Рік тому +3

    You know what Sonic Shuffle was still a fun game. Would be cool to see the concept come back. Maybe do something more with the cards, like building a deck to use during the gameboard or boss battles.

  • @brandonwilliams6119
    @brandonwilliams6119 Рік тому +11

    >Nobody cares about Knuckles Chaotix
    That hit me so hard because it’s so true, I’m a huge apologist for the game, you are always tethered to your partner, each lead character plays differently with Charmy being one of the most powerful characters in gaming (props if you get the reference), you can accrue negative ring count debt if you press a certain character to get unstuck your characters if you ever get stuck lol which I find hilarious. One of my favorite songs from the game is Marina Madness/Seascape. It also has my favorite special stages in the classic series.

    • @extremmefan7305
      @extremmefan7305 Рік тому +1

      Fellow whoisthisgit viewer? 👀

    • @Chrono-and-Co
      @Chrono-and-Co Рік тому +2

      ​@@extremmefan7305fellow game apologist viewer?

    • @extremmefan7305
      @extremmefan7305 Рік тому +3

      @@Chrono-and-Co Oh hey, I watch him too

    • @Chrono-and-Co
      @Chrono-and-Co Рік тому +1

      @@extremmefan7305 yooooo

    • @kirotalksyt
      @kirotalksyt  Рік тому +5

      Marina Madness is a great chill song and yeah I did really like the Special Stages too

  • @wilmeister123
    @wilmeister123 Рік тому +11

    I shall not stand for storybook slander

    • @Sonic171K
      @Sonic171K Рік тому +1

      Leave the solid story and music for both games alone. Black Knight has better controls/gameplay.
      I cannot defend Secret Rings god awful controls/gameplay and mission structure. Party mode was fun though.

    • @NightyBatsy
      @NightyBatsy Рік тому

      ​@@Sonic171Kyeah Secret Rings's controls only get fun after like an hour of grinding points to unlock skills

  • @MoonSarito
    @MoonSarito Рік тому +9

    I'm probably one of the few weirdos who had a good time with Knuckles Chaotix and even prefers him over to Sonic CD.

  • @RaitoADV
    @RaitoADV Рік тому +4

    To be fair, Neo Geo Pocket Color games have been re-released recently by SNK for the Nintendo Switch and Steam. We even got some Capcom NGPC games like the SNK vs Capcom games, and Mega Man Battle & Fighters.
    Maybe SNK can approach SEGA for a re-release deal? 🤷

  • @zokiamv
    @zokiamv Рік тому +5

    12:10 Sonic P-06 by ChaosX fixed Sonic 06 finally

  • @Natsu-jf6br
    @Natsu-jf6br Рік тому +6

    i really wish sega have some care about sonic heroes because like you said it was your first sonic game you've played in the sonic series and this is applies to me too.
    heck, i think it's considered the introduction to the sonic series for most of 2000s sonic fans myself included.

    • @MattTOB618
      @MattTOB618 Рік тому +2

      It was my first Sonic game as well, alongside _Sonic Advance 3._

    • @Natsu-jf6br
      @Natsu-jf6br Рік тому +2

      @@MattTOB618 welcome to sonic 2000s club my dude!! 👍😊

    • @ygbailey22
      @ygbailey22 2 місяці тому

      Sonic hub who made sonic speed simulator videos first game is also Sonic heroes

  • @spearmintpony7105
    @spearmintpony7105 Рік тому +3

    5:33 Canonically, it was the first Sonic game to introduce Eggman's modern design.

  • @midknightkoi
    @midknightkoi Рік тому +3

    9:43 I hate when people shit on Shadow the Hedgehog for no reason. It's actually a fun game. I enjoyed it as a kid and as an adult. I beat it recently too lmao

  • @tazqball1605
    @tazqball1605 Рік тому +6

    I like to see how these games can be relevant in today's modern gaming systems as either re-releases or remasters or straight from the ground up remakes like Crash N sane trilogy and Spyro Reignited trilogy.

  • @kylejones8289
    @kylejones8289 Рік тому +4

    While Secret Rings is pretty hated, and was unplayably awful in my opinion, Black Knight does not deserve to be painted with that brush. It has its fans, and it was pretty fun to play honestly, with one of the best stories in the franchise. It isn't amazing, but it's not a bad game either.

  • @MrMartellSincere
    @MrMartellSincere Рік тому +2

    That's tragic seeing these Sonic The Hedgehog games won't ever be rereleased ever again 😔

  • @blueknightskeleton8424
    @blueknightskeleton8424 Рік тому +3

    "No one cares about Knuckles' Chaotix"
    So i guess i'm invisible

  • @ChrisSmith-tw1mo
    @ChrisSmith-tw1mo Рік тому +2

    Sonic Shuffle, Knuckles Chaotix, Advance 1-3, Sonic Battle

  • @borttheattorney6012
    @borttheattorney6012 Рік тому +2

    Bro wants beef with Black Knight fans

  • @epiclyslowcars
    @epiclyslowcars Місяць тому +2

    Sonic Unleashed: "Am I a Joke to You???????"

  • @ChrisStoneinator
    @ChrisStoneinator Рік тому +1

    By what metric can a DS game be considered trapped? Guarantee you have one down the back of your sofa.

  • @C___________
    @C___________ Місяць тому +1

    The only game on here that I would truly considered trapped is Knuckles chaotix.

  • @garsrandom4358
    @garsrandom4358 Рік тому +3

    « Sonic 06 is never getting rereleased »
    Sonic Project-06 (a fan remake that proves the game has a lot of potential): am I a joke to you

  • @unclemogi
    @unclemogi Рік тому +8

    Luckily regarding Sonic 06, we have Project06 to look forward too on PC. Though I think it's technically cheating to say when it comes to this list, since it's a unofficial fan made remaster lol

    • @leeartlee915
      @leeartlee915 8 місяців тому

      But the thing is, once you mention “we have the PC blah, blah, blah”, you’ve literally opened up the possibility to play ALL games ever made. This video is talking about “legit” ways of playing these games without the use of original hardware.

  • @donstarplayz
    @donstarplayz Рік тому +9

    Unleashed and Generations have been stuck in PS3 era purgatory for some time now, so I’d like to see them get a remaster. I know that Gens has a PC port, but from what I’ve heard, it runs super bad, so could still use an upgrade. As well as the original Dreamcast versions of the Adventure games; which to my knowledge, have never been properly ported apart from PC mods for DX. I’d really like to see those ported/remade/remastered, since DX just doesn’t cut it.

    • @evdestroy4121
      @evdestroy4121 Рік тому +6

      Gens PC is fine, also the game runs on Xbox Series X and you can still buy it digitally

    • @donstarplayz
      @donstarplayz Рік тому

      @@evdestroy4121 fair enough. I’ve just only heard bad things about it. And anyway, a remaster would certainly do it good. Especially since they’ve seemingly perfected Classic Sonic in 3D for Superstars.

    • @Sonic171K
      @Sonic171K Рік тому

      We’re still waiting.

    • @NateRD90
      @NateRD90 Рік тому +3

      They're both backwards compatible on the Xbox One/Series X, at 60 FPS. And Generations is on PC, and still has an extremely strong modding community.

    • @SonicfanaticOfficial
      @SonicfanaticOfficial Рік тому

      @@donstarplayz Unleash also is in Xbox Series S and run in 60 fps

  • @dellosayshello5405
    @dellosayshello5405 Рік тому +4

    sonic gems collection really had a lot of missed potential

  • @GearlessJoe44
    @GearlessJoe44 Рік тому +4

    Ive wanted sonic heroes to be ported, remastered, get a sequel, just whatever for so long. Its also my first sonic game so the nostalgia is strong

  • @OrangeToadGamer
    @OrangeToadGamer Рік тому +18

    Just wanna comment to say I don't think I've ever seen anyone use the word *That're* ever 💀
    *Amazing video as always though, would love to see Rush or Heroes ported/remastered someday*

    • @kirotalksyt
      @kirotalksyt  Рік тому +6

      It might not be proper English lol

    • @SauceBoss14
      @SauceBoss14 Рік тому +3

      New contraction just dropped

    • @akirafuudou2037
      @akirafuudou2037 Рік тому

      @@SauceBoss14 It's not new, but it has never been officially accepted as real English. If you might happen to be writing dialogue for a character who uses much more colloquial speech, you could get away with it. But absolutely don't use "that're" formally or on a real document.

  • @rjd-kh8et
    @rjd-kh8et 2 місяці тому +1

    17:41 I'd give Sega even more respect if they re-released Sonic '06 WITH bug fixes.

  • @mistersp3753
    @mistersp3753 Рік тому +4

    Here's hoping this video ages poorly. There have been rumors of rereleases for several years now, most notably Sonic Heroes. I would be surprised if we didn't get any of these back over the next few years, especially with the impending gap between major releases. Frontiers 2 is still a few years off, and with Sega interested in "keeping the ball rolling", a re-release/collection would make perfect sense in 2024 or 2025.

  • @omegaaklx303
    @omegaaklx303 10 місяців тому +2

    "I'm pretty sure Sega wants you to forget this game even existed", so about that...

  • @Hynotama
    @Hynotama 2 місяці тому +2

    I’m not sure Sega wants us to forget Shadow’s spinoff game. After all, Black Doom will make a return in Sonic X Shadow Generations.

  • @jubeasta0135
    @jubeasta0135 Рік тому +2

    Emulation is looking real good rn

  • @datguy2345
    @datguy2345 Рік тому +11

    The sonic rush games are GOATED

    • @Sonic171K
      @Sonic171K Рік тому

      I only like the first one. The waterbike in the sequel was annoyingly STUPID.

    • @0Jmpc
      @0Jmpc Рік тому +1

      ​@@Sonic171KI remember you

    • @0Jmpc
      @0Jmpc Рік тому +1

      *game

  • @ElectrikStatik900
    @ElectrikStatik900 Рік тому +2

    Oh c'mon, Sonic and the Black Knight isn't THAT bad.

  • @shyguygaming5397
    @shyguygaming5397 Місяць тому +2

    9:46 well that’s definitely not the case

  • @JoelGarcia
    @JoelGarcia Місяць тому +1

    So, in general, these games haven't been rereleased because they're either difficult to port due to hardware limitations, generally considered to be bad, or legally not allowed to talk about it ever again.

  • @Entertainmentchaos24
    @Entertainmentchaos24 2 місяці тому +2

    9:41 meanwhile in 2024...

  • @DanialProhozdenia
    @DanialProhozdenia Рік тому +3

    Sonic Unleashed: hold my 5/5 score

    • @Sorvetedchocolat
      @Sorvetedchocolat Рік тому +1

      It isn't trapped. It's already playable on the Xbox Series and even has a 60fps patch

    • @Sonic171K
      @Sonic171K Рік тому +1

      It is trap on Xbox. D:

  • @SonicfanaticOfficial
    @SonicfanaticOfficial Рік тому +3

    Sonic 06 it was in the xbox store (XONE AND XS;X360 COMPATIBILITY)
    But they removed it and we shouldn't ask why.

    • @yomang6614
      @yomang6614 Рік тому +1

      Imagine if that shit was on Game Pass 💀

  • @jasefrybo2232
    @jasefrybo2232 Рік тому +1

    Sonic Unleashed sitting in the corner: Guess no one cares about me

  • @KHloreExpert
    @KHloreExpert Рік тому +4

    As a big fan of Sonic R and Shadow the Hedgehog I'd certainly prefer not to forget them.
    Sonic R is definitely too short and the controls take a little getting used to but those controls definitely aren't bad like the internet mob likes to parrot. It's the only racing game in the franchise that uses the footrace format allowing for more creative track layouts, multiple interwoven pathways like the classic games, and the use of character specific abilities the latter of which didn't make canon sense because Sonic and Metal Sonic are way too fast for any of their competitors but so what, the other classic games and other games since all follow the same gameplay logic.
    Shadow the Hedgehog is fun. The gunplay works well without complicating the controls and has a decently varied arsenal. The missions certainly range in quality but are also fun regardless, a clear improvement on the Chaotix gameplay from Heroes which was also fun although sometimes tedious. Shadow controls well too: They clearly used Heroes as the base and as a result the top speed is still amped a bit too high with slippery control but this game added a mechanic that stops Shadow dead in his tracks if while running he approaches a ledge and it also slowed him down a little while jumping allowing for more precise landings. They also added the Spindash in place of Heroes' Rocket Accel which is more iconic and has its uses and they also tweaked the homing attack which works really well. Sure the story was more edgy than serious at times but it's an E10+ video game from a franchise that's certainly touched on some serious topics but is generally and at its core a children's cartoon about animal people with powers and magic jewelry so I don't understand why anyone expects a narrative masterpiece. I've never understood why it matters to people if the characters lightly swear or not although I do find it funny that the use of the words "Damn" and "Hell" by a few members of the cast is a common criticism about this game that the internet mob parrots but that same mob (I presume there's significant overlap) praise the Japanese dub of Sonic X in part for it's use of swear words that were all censored out in the English dub.
    I'd love to see these two games ported to modern hardware perhaps with minor bugfixes, nothing game-changing, although porting as is would be great too. Alternatively or additionally one or both of these getting a sequel, either in a spiritual or literal sense, would also be exciting.

    • @UltimateInkling
      @UltimateInkling Рік тому +1

      Highly agree on the shadow the hedgehog one its so fun imo.

  • @LorenzoDoesntExist
    @LorenzoDoesntExist 6 місяців тому +2

    A few notes:
    Their issue with SegaSonic's trackball is ridiculous. Just map the direct to a joystick and the rolling to a button. The presentation, sound, graphics, and animation are too good to leave out of their catalogue.
    Fans have warmed up to R as a bridge between Sonic 3D and Sonic Adventure. I know you said that Sonic 3D gets lumped with the other Genesis games, but it's literally a separate listing on Steam right now. R has an old .exe that could easily be patched and put on Steam too.
    Sonic Battle being left out of the Advance collection would be foolish because Advance 3 continues its Gizaoid storyline.
    Shadow '05 get references a tonne in other games, so clearly the Sonic Team is aware that it has fans and is proud of it in some regard. Sonic x Shadow Generations will likely remaster some of its stages, so it's not as unlikely as you say for Shadow '05 to be released.
    The DS is one of the most emulated consoles, so not sure why you think it'd be that complicated for a game developer to port it.
    Your comments on what fans think of Sonic and the Black Knight are misguided. Most fans actually like it. It's underrated and you should look into it more.
    By the way, Sonic '06 was already relisted in 2022 in some countries, and a fanmade recreation that fixes its bugs, controls, and physics shows that its level design was always great. Even the original had great concepts, art direction, and music despite early forums hating on it entirely. Dismissing Sonic '06 like this is kinda old.

  • @drybonesmunchakoopas5143
    @drybonesmunchakoopas5143 Рік тому +2

    hold on no sonic and the black knight was freaking great. people need to stop judging it off secret of the rings

  • @Artzei
    @Artzei Рік тому +1

    Heroes and Shadow technically did see re-releases between 2012-2014, albeit those ones sadly were only the PS2 versions released for PS3 as a PS2 Classic. And only in Europe and Japan (especially in the case of Shadow with the latter).

  • @sgoc9499
    @sgoc9499 Рік тому +2

    Nah man didn't mention Sonic schoolhouse 💀

  • @lucymorrison
    @lucymorrison 11 місяців тому +1

    Black Knight is my favourite Sonic game no question and it pains me that it’s stuck on Wii (Wii U as well with backwards compatibility, that’s how I usually play it, but both of these systems are dead). I would kill for a Switch/PS5 port, seriously!

  • @BrettKolb-o9n
    @BrettKolb-o9n Місяць тому +1

    I find it funny that Unleashed is off as a technicality, since it’s on Xbox store. Not PlayStation Store or Steam, just Xbox store

  • @garsrandom4358
    @garsrandom4358 Рік тому +5

    Goldeneye 64 is not that obscure, it’s even considered one of, if not THE best n64 FPS game

  • @billchiper1628
    @billchiper1628 Рік тому +1

    I am happy that you included Sonic Rush in it because I just finished the whole story of Sonic Rush on my Nintendo DS lite.
    I got the game and the Ds lite in 2023 summer but I just loved playing that game except some zones that had me killed every time and put me to game over screen. But other than that Sonic Rush soundtrack is so good, the zone music. It's just so good.

  • @ClassicSonic-pe1sz
    @ClassicSonic-pe1sz 3 місяці тому +1

    The reason why the Sonic Advanxe games aren’t rereleased is because of the controls and the hardware and also we have to deal with the companies

  • @One_way_Dream
    @One_way_Dream 10 місяців тому +1

    9:37 this part aged kinda poorly and I love it sega does NOT want me to forget about the goat🐐

  • @godofmediocrity7582
    @godofmediocrity7582 Рік тому +4

    12:10 funny thing, it HAS been rereleased… kinda. It was delisted back in 2010, but earlier this year was silently relisted for only 5 bucks on the Xbox Marketplace. Not backwards compatible tho and the store’s shutting down next year soooo…

  • @Izak_Klark
    @Izak_Klark Рік тому +2

    13:55 Hold on, how are they bad games?

  • @Alph4Falc0
    @Alph4Falc0 Рік тому +3

    who are these sonic fans you speak of? I do like knuckles Chaotix, heroes, riders, 06, and black knight. And a lot of people who grew up playing those games are voicing that opinion

  • @xythrr
    @xythrr 10 місяців тому +1

    Love that the lowest rated one on the list is the closest one to actually being rereleased.
    Sonic X Shadow generations is effectively a shadow sequal.

  • @Zejgar
    @Zejgar Рік тому +1

    8:19 Sonic Heroes came out on PC as well.

  • @callumsparrow4379
    @callumsparrow4379 Рік тому +1

    Sonic Pocket Adventure would’ve been perfect for the 3DS Virtual Console. I remember when NGPC titles were announced for the 3DS VC, but they sadly never came.

    • @gjergjaurelius9798
      @gjergjaurelius9798 Рік тому

      That person he mentioned on owning a neo Geo pocket color....🙋🏻‍♂️

  • @BrendanJSmith
    @BrendanJSmith 2 місяці тому

    We need a "Sonic Rarities Collection" or something to round up all the forgotten games buried by the sands of time.

  • @asdfdc1946
    @asdfdc1946 Рік тому +1

    5:40 strange comment to make about goldeneye since goldeneye was extremely popular & a re-release for that game has been in high demand for over 20 years.

    • @liamsgarcia3964
      @liamsgarcia3964 Рік тому

      I miss segasonic😢😢 i am starting a riot against sega untill they re-realese

  • @debisi5067
    @debisi5067 2 місяці тому +1

    12:10 I would give 06 a 0.000000000000000000000 out of 5 for being rereleased

  • @eljaminlatour6633
    @eljaminlatour6633 Рік тому +3

    Charii5 pointed this out when making his "Everything wrong with Sonic Origins". He noticed that the collection has OST of Knuckles' Chaotix, but not the game itself. It became very hard for him because there were no re-releases for it or modern emulators for it. So, he had to play it with real Sega 32X hardware.

    • @NithProYT
      @NithProYT Рік тому +2

      there are 32x emulators lol

    • @yagofazcoisaseuacho8035
      @yagofazcoisaseuacho8035 Рік тому +3

      I'm pretty sure most Mega Drive emulators work as 32x emulators, you just need to set a few things up

    • @tuluflulu
      @tuluflulu Рік тому +1

      Kega fusion can play it with no issues. Though, I'm not sure people even know what that is.

    • @zacharygustafson8714
      @zacharygustafson8714 Рік тому +1

      I played Chaotix on an emulator just fine a few months ago.

  • @wakuwakusonicpartolcar
    @wakuwakusonicpartolcar Рік тому +2

    don't forget the only good unmodded version of SA1 stuck on dreamcast

  • @soufianegamerpro
    @soufianegamerpro Рік тому

    i wish these sonic games gets in future sonic game collections like sonic origins

  • @CucasNerdyCorner
    @CucasNerdyCorner 2 місяці тому +1

    I know Lost Worlds has a steam release but I would like a console release too haha

  • @MrSRArter
    @MrSRArter Рік тому +1

    3:06 Oddly enough, Knuckles Chaotix was developed in Japan.

    • @Turbulation1
      @Turbulation1 Рік тому +1

      Because it was originally going to be an ambitious sonic title (Sonic Crackers) that once started on the Mega Drive and then briefly moved to the Saturn, but due to complications with SoJ and SOA at the time, the game was heavily scaled back and moved to the 32X where it became Knuckles Chaotix, due to the addon needing more games.

  • @DarkSonic5_OC
    @DarkSonic5_OC Рік тому +1

    Honestly I feel like the Original Sonic adventure should have been here, I know Sonic Adventure DX exists but I’m pretty sure most of use want to play the original that was only for the Dreamcast

  • @Bond007er
    @Bond007er Рік тому +1

    Sonic 3d world needs a remaster

  • @richfutrell753
    @richfutrell753 2 місяці тому +1

    Don't mix decimals with fractions. Either give a percentage or stick to fractions.

  • @Castcoder
    @Castcoder Рік тому +1

    To be fair, Sega technically did re-release Sonic 06 when they randomly re-listed the game a few years ago on the Xbox 360 Marketplace.

  • @kyethememer9836
    @kyethememer9836 Рік тому +1

    The Sonic games that I most want to play are 'the adventure games and heroes' I'm still praying for quality ports of the games on modern consoles.

  • @gangstasonic97573
    @gangstasonic97573 Рік тому +2

    I love Knuckles’ Chaotix with my heart and soul and I will die on that hill.

    • @Ponifex
      @Ponifex Рік тому

      It's aesthetically gorgeous, features a fantastic soundtrack (even by the sky-high standards of its origin series), and boasts one of the most uniquely fascinating playable prototypes of the 16-bit era. Certainly not meritless from a purely artistic perspective.
      Shame about the actual game, though.

  • @markfaites
    @markfaites Рік тому +2

    2:57... lies, lies, and again, lies. knuckles chaotix goes into my TOP 3 favourite sonic games. i would love the port of it. dude is just offending everyone who likes this game.

    • @crimson5pider
      @crimson5pider 2 місяці тому +1

      Agreed, absolutely underrated gem. Easily makes my top 10, maybe even top 5

    • @Gerbert67
      @Gerbert67 2 місяці тому

      While it's not a good game, it's in my top 2 favorite sonic games.

  • @POTTERANDMATRIXFAN
    @POTTERANDMATRIXFAN Рік тому +2

    You can emulate all of these nowadays.
    Yeah I'm gonna be that guy 🙂great vid though.

  • @GeflGabe
    @GeflGabe Рік тому

    The DS games were just announced for the switch. Cant wait to listen to those rush tunes again.