A Senior Police Officer caught wearing a South Atlantic Medal, (Falklands War 1982). When, at the time of the Campaign, he was 15 years old and serving in the Cadets.
As a civilian I find this incredibly embarrassing. My father was a very down to earth man and had been a career soldier, finishing his service as a WO1 like you. He served throughout WW2 from day one until the end. He didn`t come away with a bag full of medals and he almost never talked of the horrors that he saw, but he did talk of the lighter moments and of his career during peace time in Africa and the Middle East before the war. I`ve found this to be true of most genuine veterans. I have over the years heard some really tall tales from people who claim to have been in or have actually served. Even as a civilian I can tell when someone is lying and it doesn`t benefit anyone. Shame on the Copper who did this. How can he ever hold his head up in public again.
Well said mate you sound like your describing my Farther to a T ,he never mentioned the bad only the funny and he never went to any reunions just remembrance Sunday on the telly and he was left with some really bad physical injuries and some mental scars wich he allso never spoke about only to Mum
I'm a civilian but members of my family have served (none in the Falklands), that copper was just plain disrespectful and the lie that he was in the Falklands War is a disservice to those who fought, bled and even died so the Falklands could be liberated.
My great uncle Vic (now deseased) had a similar career by the sound of it. He was a Sgt Major, a career soldier and also served in North Africa and the Middle East, before, during, and after the war, he helped settle troubles in Palestine after WW2. He got shot on 2 occasions during the war, and one of the times was left for dead by German soldiers, but luckily around 24 hours later, the Allies came through the scene of the previous day's battle, and found him barely alive. He had been shot in the chest, so was a very lucky man. He went back out fighting as soon as he could too. A strange anecdote to this story, is that unfortunately, he died in hospital suffering from Dementia, or Altziemers, and although he couldn't recognise his wife or most family members, he had full on conversations, in Arabic, with the middle Eastern Doctors and nurses, who were treating him. This was in the mid 1990's when he died, and hadn't spoke a word of Arabic probably since the early 1950's, when he was still in Palestine. It is strange how the brain works, where you can't remember what you had for breakfast, or the name of your wife, but you can remember how to speak a fluent language, you learnt over 50 years ago, and haven't used in nearly 40 years.
@@gutz323 That was the sort of men that they were. A different generation, a tougher generation. When I read your comment I wondered if your uncle and my Father ever met. If your uncle was into boxing in the military then it`s quite possible.
Been a right Walt, claimed in the navy as well. But was only in cadets. Sacked without notice, so probably waved bye bye to his pension as well. Must have thought he would get away with it, so didn't jump before he was pushed, that might have meant he kept his pension.
He was on £176,550 a year and getting full pay throughout the investigation. From what I read discussions will be taking place next week to determine punishment if any but as a minimum he should lose his pension and be made to pay back his salary from when he was suspended. Not 100% sure it’s true but apparently his ex wife was the one who brought his lies and deceit to light. Could be prosecuted for misconduct in public office and fraud by false representation both of which can carry a jail sentence. My guess is nothing happens to him and he gets to keep his pay and pension !
We call it stolen valor over here in the States. I served in the Navy. I absolutely despise service members or the worst of the worst civilians pretending to be something none of them had the balls to serve their country. Just despicable. ⚓🇺🇲🇺🇲
I've seen some of these stolen valor videos. Entertaining but I think my mid 70s early 80s Army amigos would prefer to have just battered the liar instead of outing him on mobile phone cam... shit!! mobiles werent invented then were they?😳
@@nicolajohnson1887 Nicola, I only served only 6yrs but that included a tour in Belfast in 1977 few weeks after my 18th Birthday but despite some bum twitching moments saw it as a good character building experience.. but yeah, I've never really understood why someone would pretend to do a job requiring nothing but a torso, 2xlegs, 2xarms and a head. BAOR&N.IRELAND needed bodies so if you had em you were in. They've obviously got issues but their lies&deceit can really upset some ppl, its pretty easy to forget someone especially when they've pretended to be someone else for the last 13/14yrs.. People ask why as a known proper veteran like me failed to catch him out? Easy answer is it was other people in the group he told stories to and tbh I thought he was a f*n idiot, veteran or not and more or less ignored the fool, until I went on Facebook, joined a NI veterans group that required details of service in NI before you could join group. I told em the situation and asked best way to check if he served in NI as I knew he'd told my stepdaughter and some other young females he was haunted&traumatised after his best mate was cut in half by a belt fed M60 machine gun. This was final straw and I was advised to go online and apply to gain access to the still unpublished to the public Northern Ireland Roll of Honour, checked the unit he claimed to have served in(2Gren Guards) and saw 3 deaths from RTAs, a accidental shooting in loading bay (single shot not more) and 1 poor lad who was actually killed by the Provos but 4yrs after the Walt claimed he left the Army. Another mate read it and I sent him a text saying if he might have not been 100%truthful with us lot then not to bother answering text. He didnt so was outed to a few other groups of ppl he told same lies too& they dumped him too. No kidding he lost his entire social circle and any credibility in the Bristol area he might have possibly had.. You reap what you sow as somebody famous once said.. or maybe I just imagined it? Walts? I sh*t em, old mate of mines favourite comment on the subject sadly now passed away but not forgotten.. one last joke for y'all.. I'm Glaswegian so joke best said in that accent. Difference between Bing Crosby???.... Bing sings and Walt Disney.... I'll get my coat.... TAXXXII
I used to drive a Major General when I served in the WRAC. He wasn't happy when he was given the ribbon for the Queens silver jubilee so he gave it to me.... he felt that they should only have been awarded to the troops. I won't wear it because it wasn't actually awarded to me but I cherish it because he was such a lovely man to work for and it reminds me of him.
Cracking story, thank you for sharing it. It's obvious to me, and will be to others that read this, that you have one of the army's values which you hold dear, that is Integrity. Well done you. Thank you for commenting 👍
Just talking to one makes me raise my eyebrows as their language and daring do, has my ears up, just had one recently, he saw my veterans badge and straight away calling me a crap hat and telling me he was in the paras, Falklands, gulf, Iraq, Afghan, Bosnia, Sierra Leone, but it's when I said gulf war, really who with, that's when the bull started calling it desert storm rather than op granby or the gulf war, plus he was younger than me and I was 15 when the Falklands war was on, so I called him out, he couldn't get away quick enough
There was one down in the southwest, was in the SAS, joined up, did his basic at Hereford then blah,blah,blah. When asked what his parent regiment was he didn't know what that meant.
Oh yeah if you have ever served usually all you need to do is look at them and you can tell if they had served I don't know what it is its just the way we walk and the side burns and clean shave all these things together are usually an indication of a serviceman I hate Walter mittys it's even worse when it's someone who has served and trys telling you they were sas or sbs they must be bigger than the green army 😂 🏴💪🇺🇸👊✌
Me? Ex army, my best friend spider Webb navy, went down south on the Atlantic Conveyor. He went to his bunk and woke up floating in the sea. Transfered to the hospital ship, then the long way home. Three years later, he was a shadow of his former self. He died shortly after. Now, ask me what i think of Walter Mittys.
Cannot believe people want to Walt. It makes me furious especially after I keep it quiet, how I survived Isandlwana, then led the Charge of the Light Brigade and single handedly raised the siege of Mafeking. Bloody Walt’s.
@@nilsalmquist9424 Crikey, we must have a meet up, I was with Guillaume and Bishop Odo. Didn't really get in to the fight, I was seasick all the way over, trip over my feet and fell flat on the beach.
I was 12 years old when the Falklands war broke out, and had just returned from Argentina after visiting my father's family and my Grandparents for the first and only time! The day before the war actually began, I was made to stand in front of my entire school at assembly and tell everyone about my wonderful trip to Argentina. The next day it became enemy territory! It was a pretty difficult time for a little kid, especially when my father appeared on ITV condemning both sides.
Well, I watched that news item & the miscreant is one Nick Adderly, now the ex chief constable of northants police. He was 15 at the time of the falklands. He was in the navy, but achieved the rank of able seaman but claimed he’d been a Lt. No wonder the public don’t trust the police. All rather sad if you ask me. As you asked, he got the sack! 😊
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Thank you for your support. Brilliant idea of tabbing with your shopping. I sure it will help towards improving your blood pressure. Take care, Lets Tab
@@LetsTab59-bd4fd Wife left in 2022, my dad died in March 2024. To be honest, I was falling apart, but now trying to pull myself back together. You may not realise it, but your videos are providing me with some of the inspiration I've needed. Not blowing smoke up etc , but thank you.
@Dilip122S well I'm glad to hear I'm still of some use. I've been out the Army for 9 years now and most of that time I've been a bit lost. I started this channel about a year ago and it's actually helping me get by. Thank you for your support, it's comments and feedback like yours that spurs me on to keep going 👍
I was in the RAF under training when the Falklands kicked off. We were prepared to provide security for important infrastructure installations. Did we do anything - NO, but we served and were prepared to go. Proud to have served. I ended up with long service and Jubilee medals, ironically in the Police, and wear them with pride.
Couldn't aggree more, 8yrs TA no campaigns, bestest of times and fantastic experiences, total respect to those who have earned their genuine campaign medals.
I am a former police Firearms officer both in uniform CID/NCA and special branch. We had a sergeant firearms instructor who bragged about being ex SAS. Said that he had seen action in numerous places from Oman to Ulster. My ex service team mates suspected that he was a Walter. They asked him about dates and barracks which confirmed their suspicions. His service record was checked and confirmed he was indeed a liar as did an SAS RSM. Although we proved to our senior officers that this man was a fraud and not the full shilling he was allowed to continue. Strangely ex service and special branch officers we rostered to another instructor on Training/classification days. Walter was allowed to continued training the youngsters and told them some really fantastic stories about his exploits in 'The Regiment'. As for medals I could wear both my farther and grandfathers, I didn't earn them so I don't. My Police good conduct and long service medal remains unworn. They were given to Walter's as above and other similar individuals, so to me therefore it is meaningless. Ex Chief Constable Adderley should be charged with obtaining his rank and salary by deception S14/15 of the Fraud Act 2006.
Hi, I followed a similar police route to you, as outlined - minus NCA. I have the police good conduct / long service medal and the Queen's Silver Jubilee medal. These have never been worn, and never seen the light of day since I received them via dispatch. The police service is a civilian organisation and I'm afraid I have to disagree with civilian organisation employees receiving medals, a certificate is good enough.
The easy way to out a Walt is to ask for their service number. Not only do they need to know one, but the numbers too tell when you served. Your service number is part of your very DNA. You need to do an immense amount of homework to be a credible Walt, to know about units, postings etc. The Corps of Royal Engineers was huge, but everyone knows someone. Its amazing on my FB page the number of mutual friends I have, guys that I have never met know friends of mine. You have Walters, who are totally fabricated. And Bloaters, who have served, but "enhanced" their CV to something a bit more interesting. I served for 8 yrs, I don't have a medal to show for my time, it's a matter or circumstances. The years I served (between '83 - '91) there weren't any operational tours except NI. I don't feel the need to creat an alternative life for myself, I'm proud of what I did.
@NobbySapper. And so you should be proud, brother. Service is what counts, not whether you've served in a place where medals were issued for your participation. It's the Walter Mitty's that pretend, or enhance, their stories that I believe gets people's backs up. 👍
My check is what were your last three, if it's a Welsh regiment maybe their last four. (there may be a lot of guys named Jones). I am a bit like you I served during all the major engagements 75 - 97 but never got an invite. When the first Gulf War kicked off I got sent to Belize as a diving instructor of all things, there were so many flights going to Dhahran that we flew Monarch to Belize. Spent a lot of time in NI (support helicopters) doing nothing more heroic than staggering back from the NAAFI at Aldergrove of an evening. As for Walt's, they don't really bother me, bit sad really. Ironically I live in Northamptonshire and what worries me more is the background checks of Police officers.
Worked with a bloke once who spent 2 years trying to convince me that he'd been in the army. Asked him his number and he reeled off 4 digits. Asked again a while later and got 4 slightly different numbers. Turned out he failed the medical for colour blindness. Mind you it could have been the intelligence test he failed as well.
I like the idea of 'bloaters' :) And the Service Numbers idea is one I've used in the past when I've been approached by beggars - "Ex-Forces, please help". If real, I'll help, if a Walt, then no, direct them to some proper help.
Some people have all the brass neck it takes to delude, con and deceive. People passing themselves off as doctors, surgeons, shrinks etc, isn't unheard of.....
asking them there last three ususally catches them out I remember we had a bloke claiming to be ex army where I worked once did not take long to catch him out
An American colleague of mine in Cambodia told me that they were being inundated by “Vietnam War” Walt’s. All allegedly spec ops of one type or another. No truck drivers, bedding store men, cooks etc. No wonder they lost: nobody could get fed, pick up any ammo or get a decent night’s kip :)
I’ve met a few Walts post service. They’ve usually claimed to be either from the REs or from some lesser known infantry unit that was subsequently amalgamated. The RE cover can work (for a while) because it was a huge corps with troops stationed all over the world. I only met lads I’d joined up with on two occasions in 14 years! (But we had an Army back then). Unless you were infantry yourself (or had done a tour with them) chances are you wouldn’t know The Worcesters from The Sherwood Foresters, so that could also work for a while. Another issue I’ve come across frequently when people learn I’m ex services is - “I was going to join up but…………”. In fact I saw a T shirt recently which had printed on it something like - ‘I was going to join the Army but…….. I did!’ 🤣 As far as offences committed by the W Anchor Chief Constable goes it might fall into the category of ‘using a false instrument’ if it has involved him achieving personal gain. I’ll bet there are a few medal ribbons being unpicked around the country right now! 🤣🤣🤣 And well done Keith for taking action against that cadet officer 👏🏻
To be fair I would guess most of the "I was going to join but" crowd are people who did genuinely contemplate joining but decided not to and now recognise how good a career it could have been. I've never served but know people who did and I can see clearly they got a lot out of their time in.
I met a 'Walt' at his own wedding reception. His new wife introduced us with great excitement thinking we'd have loads to talk about. As I shook his hand, I said "hey up Royal, congratulations". He face dropped and I picked-up on this immediately. After asking him a few questions about Pass-Out dates, Units etc, we quickly established he'd been on a PRC (3-day Potential Recruits Course) but wasn't taken forward to attempt the Commando course / CTCRM. His wife had told me earlier that prior to being a fitness instructor, he'd been in the Royal Marines for 5-years!!!
I used to work with a guy who claimed to be ex Paras, SAS and Foreign Legion. He actually did look the part and seemed confident telling stories. He slipped up when he told me he was 19 when he served in the Falklands when previously he had told me he celebrated his 18th birthday on the way down. I asked him if he had any photos of his glittering military career and apparently he met a woman who ran a pub in Hereford which burned down and they all got destroyed in the fire.
I was in the pub tonight trying to order a drink from a man who claimed to be a bartender. Bartender. He was never a bartender. It took me 10 minutes to get a pint! ☺️
@PeterBren It's always the Falklands people lie about. I knew another guy who claimed to have a 'mate' who served. He struggled to remember his surname or which regiment or unit he was in. Finally he told me he had retired but was in the TA serving in Germany when he was specially recalled. He even showed me a photo from Google images which bizarrely was of a US air force officer who had more medals than Idi Amin.
“Every man thinks meanly of himself for not having been a soldier, or not having been at sea” Samuel Johnson I enjoy dropping in on your channel from time to time, keep up the good work ⚓️🏴☠️
a few years ago i went to a remembrance day parade with my 2 medals on and while waiting around for the service to start i was approached by 2 men in suits with berets on. they started asking all sorts of questions about what where why and how i got the medals. i told them to politely go away in two words and that i wasn't a walt. they both laughed and introduced themselves and we had a good old chat about where we served!!!
Am I right in thinking that your own medals are worn on the left breast and someone else's ( father, brother, uncle ) on the right beast? At remembrance services and the like.
I used to do Remembrance Days, only had the NI medal, but the buggers I went to school with and also joined up would have NI,Gulf, Falklands,NATO, UN etc. They'd be behind me on the parade, "we've got more medals than yoooouuu!" Ha ha. Cheeky f**kers.
Totally agree , stolen valour is the correct title. I collect millitaria and display medals etc., but wouldn't dream of wearing them, not even my grandfather's world war 2 set. Great video well said.
Funnily enough, I could wear my father's WWII service medals, and Police GC (on the right)... if only he'd claimed them! (He said he did nothing more than anyone else: 1939 - '46 RAF Combat Aircrew AG/Sigs)
Misconduct in public office. This type of deceitful behaviour on public display is an insult to all who give or have given loyal service. It also tarnishes the reputation of our Police Force.
I served 11 years in the Welsh Guards and a 3 year veteran of Northern Ireland. My motivation to join was the Falklands War, and I have a lot of good friends who were on the Sir Galahad, so I take it personally with what that so-called police officer did. One close friend who served there cut his own throat at a war memorial where I live. And that muppet is walking around with a South Atlantic medal. I don't know why people do it because they always get found out. All I have is my GSM from service in Northern Ireland, but I'm happy with that, there is no way on this planet I would even dream of adding to it or lying about what I did, or didn't do. It really is sickening.
I was RRW we took over Ballykelly camp from you I was rear party in Tern Hill seen a lot of scared and disfigured men who where on the Sir Galahad and fought like Hero's to liberate the Falkland Islands..so when I see Walters like the copper it make my blood boil
My father was an RSM in the Army and served over 20 plus years then went to Oman as a Captain with the Omani’s he like yourself spotted a fake and used to tell me, he would listen to people supposedly ex army tell their tales and let them dig a hole for themselves with Bull I enjoyed your input you reminded me so much of my fathers ways and straight talking.
It's high time that this is treated as crime as they do in the U.S. I served as a Royal Naval Reservist for 26 years and would not dream of claiming any award that was not due to me. I enjoyed this video,thanks Sergeant Major,(Bravo Zulu!)
I notice they never say they served in the catering corps, logistics etc. Always Marines, Paras Etc. I know he wasn't in the SAS or i would have seen him on the balcony! Mind you, you wouldn't have noticed me as I was wearing my respirator!
I really appreciate videos like this, I tried out for the forces but sadly failed the medical, how my life would have been different?? The thought of people wearing medals that they've not earnt is disgusting in my eyes. I'm sure we all know lads and ladies who have served and have some good stories to tell, but, they have time served!!! They earnt their place, they earnt their silver. I've found this channel by accident and I've subbed, look forward to more updates. God bless sir
It makes you wonder how they vet police applicants. I know that they did not do a thorough job on his application. Compare firearms licence to his job application.
In my area alone (Cumbria) the local police service has dismissed a number of police officers over the past 20 odd years or so, for various reasons.....
Hi mate, Stumbled across your video whilst avoiding doing other things. I’ve never commented on anything on UA-cam, but wanted to say that I really enjoyed coming along on your tab/bimble with banter. I miss the honest, humble, pull up a sandbag banter from my own time in. Incidentally, I’m a former bootneck; Z Coy, 45 Cdo Rm, down south in 82, so I appreciate you drawing attention to these lost fools that wear gongs they haven’t earned. I try to brush it off as just people trying to make up for some sort of inadequacy, but in truth it still hurts a bit when I think about the lads who didn’t get to wear their gongs. Anyway, take care, good health, and I hope your knees hold up. Love and respect Dave
Cheers Dave and much respect from this old hat. Knees doing OK have one ankle that niggles now and again but gentle tabbing helps. All the best to you and well done to you and the lads that went down South. 🫡🙏🍻
Not sure why people make stuff up ...I was ex firefighter and old bill I always liked working with ex military lads great humour making stuff up is sad. He got booted out rightly so.
my father was a warrant officer in the army and he was ordanance and he hated anyone who were walter mitty,s because a true soldier would not brag about what he did when in the military
Just subbed as, if honest, you remind me of my uncle, Michael Cox who ended up as a battery Sergeant Major in the Royal Artillery. His best friend was his senior, a RSM, called Gerry but not sure of his surname now. I believe they both left the army in about 1977 having served in Ireland, BAOR and Hong Kong among other places. I believe their regiment had FH70 field artillery and latterly then went over to self propelled artillery in the form of Abbots. My uncle died about 2000 and Gerry about 10 years ago. He used to come down with his wife and come round here with my mums sister, Michaels wife. Gerry was a giant of a man and I can still remember that he would don a pair of white gloves and run his fingers along the top of my door frame seeing how much dust he could find. I was in my early 40s by then but felt like a raw recruit and had such admiration for both of them. Although retired many years, when my uncle died, Gerry arranged for a bugler from the RA to come over from Germany and play the last post in full uniform as we all filed out of the service. He still had some welly and standing with the Regt even then I assume.
Just to clear up an issue, there are two South Atlantic medals, one with a Rosette and one without. The rosette issued medal was for those who spent one day on the Falklands etc before 14th June 82. The one without the rosette was for those who working up on Ascension Island, qualifying period was 30 days before 21 Ocober 82. The second one came about after an investigation, as lot of Veterans complained as the MoD hadn't declared when the campaign had ended, the MoD had an investigation into the case and found in the veterans favour.
Met a walter in my local pub, told me he was in the army 12 years, did iraq and afghanistan, asked him what regiment he was in when in the army, and he said Royal Marines, pointed out to him that if you told a Marine he was in the army, he would probably tell you to F off, Marines are navy. It's still not stopped his waltering, heard him going on to someone else, but now he was a para, lol
Walter Mitty was character created in 1939 by American writer James Thurber subsequently made into a 1947 film "The Secret Life of Walter Mitty" with Danny Kaye in the title rôle. Remade in 2013.
The character you are referring to is Battery Sergeant-Major Tudor Bryn "Shut Up" Williams, a prominent figure in the beloved British television sitcom "It Ain't Half Hot Mum." This iconic role was masterfully brought to life by the talented actor Windsor Davies. The series, which captivated audiences from 1974 until 1981, chronicled the humorous and often chaotic adventures of a Royal Artillery Concert Party. These soldiers were stationed in India and Burma, navigating the complexities and absurdities of military life during the closing stages of World War II. Through its clever writing and memorable performances, "It Ain't Half Hot Mum" offered a unique blend of comedy and wartime drama, leaving a lasting impression on its viewers.
Well done it needed to be said. I have a little military stall in Llandudno antique market ,and I get some right howlers but on the most goods people . Keep them coming. Sorry about the late text we work nights just 4 grumpy old vets .
He was kicked out of the police. My favourite Walt story: I was walking past Charing Cross Police Station many years ago. I spotted a gent leaving said police station wearing a Brigade of Gurkhas tie and beret with a 7GR cap badge. My favourite uncle scored a double MC in Burma with said regiment, so I know them well, though I served with 3 Queen’s. I introduced myself to him and checked his medals: GC, MC, SAM, GSM (Borneo clasp) and a couple of others! I questioned the GC- my uncle’s batman scored the only 7GR VC, so, again, I am pretty well informed- he informed me that GC was from Borneo, MC from somewhere else. The only thing he had correct was that 7GR was 'Down South'. To have served in both Borneo- '60s and Falklands- '82, he would have been the oldest serving officer on the planet! Sadly, I didn’t confront him at the time or take his name, but called some friends in the Brigade who outed him instantly. One wonders what goes through their minds!
Thanks, Another great informative video. Back in '82 I was serving in Cyprus as a 19 year old during the Falklands Conflict. I've heard on the news that copper was only 15 then. Its an utter disgrace what he's done over all these years. Lying to everyone about a distinguished service career, that was only infact 2 years as an Seaman. Great hes lost his job, & I hope his pension also. Hopefully NO ONE WILL EMPLOY HIM as he's been caught out to being a dishonest lying N O N C E Cheers & keep up these great videos. All the best, Kevin 🤝
@@LetsTab59-bd4fdjust subscribed to your channel. All the best 👍 Kevin. Atleast I've got my official veterans card to prove my service now along with all my demob papers. Don't know how that Leech pulled the wool over the police recruitment teams eyes all those years ago. Reason he got sacked was he lied on his job application & that's grounds for instant sacking under any employment. You can lie as much as you want in a CV but never in a job application.
I got pulled up for my UN Cyprus medal as the guys did not recognise it. After i explained i had to endure many hangovers and sunburn to get that one. Other tours were pretty shit compared to Cyprus
I'm honest, I have never served in the forces in any capacity in my life. This senior Police officer has not only hurt veterans, but he's also hurt veterans' families they have to wait at home for them. He shouldn't claim another person's efforts and experiences, 'shameful'.
nephew of mine was recently turned down joining the Welsh police.Got thru all the selection ,medical etc but turned down very last stage "for personal reasons" thing is they wont tell him what it was exactlys. He was quite upset understandably
I have only one medal, a copy of the original that is long lost. I have never worn it and care nothing for it. I didn't fight, didn't even see the enemy. I was just there. Gulf War 1.
I am an ex cop, 29 years service. My Dad went in after D day with the Glasgow Highlanders. This bloke, a so called " senior officer" has, no doubt issued bollockings to hard working, ground pounding, coppers, who were probably just doing their jobs. What a frigging Walt. Nothing but scorn for this bloke. Bless all our vets. We DO appreciate you.
So glad to see your video walkaround of Sir John Moore Barracks. I was there as a 15 year old Junior Leader from July 1990. Didnt last long but will never forget being beasted around the quadrant, and made to lie in our backs and write the alphabet in the air with our feet. As soon as someones feet hit the floor we started again from "a". My boy is in the RAF Regiment now, and there were no beastings or in the ear shouting during his basic.
I met several cadet instructors who loved strutting about, impressing the young cadets with stories they'd picked up in a mess somewhere, but never served. It's a bone of contention with adult instructors who did serve, when these buggers never served but like wearing the uniform. Where we are, the ones running the county cadet force never did time and don't like using vets as instructors because they have medals and experience. Go in to enquire about joining,they soon showed you the door, one mate had a chestful of medals, adventure trg qualies, he never heard a squeak.
He was 15 at the time of the Falklands, and lied further to join the Police, this particular award belonged to one of his relatives who emigrated and gave it to him before he left.
i can see you are really proud of your service , rightly so. they dont make em like you any more . its a shame that what all the soldiers fought for along the way ,has been stripped from the world of today thank you for your service ,god bless
I am a civilian, though I served in the Royal Observer Corps during the mid to late 70s. I didn’t serve the full term of 12 years to receive my medal and am therefore not allowed to wear any medals. I would never dream of wearing something I am not entitled to wear and I am extremely disgusted with this Police Officer lying about his Service credentials. I too hope that he gets served the justice he deserves. God bless all those whom have served and thank you.🫡🇬🇧🇺🇸🇨🇦
5:10 I got called a Walter, I was a MOD CAP and for the job I was special Constable from 76 to79 in Alexander Bks with the RMP and the green Howards I was armed then. I was UDR from 79 to 91 and Royal Irish from 91 to 01 and called back in 02 I have GSM ACSM with 7 bars all on Op Banner, I was told no way I could have served in NI that long. This officer RN he didn't know there was such a thing home service Regiment in NI
I met up, accidentally, one Remembrance Sunday in a pub in London, there were about 10 UDR Veterans there, they all had multiple Bars on their ACSM. And hard earned they were. Cracking Unit the UDR and later the R. Irish. All very brave to have served and lived among the community out there. Much respect 🙏 🫡
Thank you for sharing that 👍 my friend Bill from notts went Falklands he was only 18 he was in 2 para , we were in prison a long time ago and a con stupidly claimed to have also been in 2 para , well as you can imagine that didn't end well , Billy should never have been in jail , from the day he got nicked even in court he would only give his army number , top bloke .
So true baz a mate of mine was shot in the back still suffers to this day... the pain of that war still effects people. Baz is a cracking sort and mad as hatter. Tough war tough men.
Remember seeing that on the news a few days ago and was absolutely gobsmacked! I’m a serving soldier of 21 years with only months to go before I “collect my pension” and only yesterday I was awarded my LS&GC after serving 15 years of no major disciplinary (yes, I had a discipline at my 6 year point). It’s the first medal I’ve been personally awarded in a long time because you don’t get any for second and beyond tours of the same operational theatre. But, it felt so nice to be awarded that by the brigade commander in front of my wife and an absolute honour to be able to wear that because I’ve earned it. Obviously, had the jubilee medals and king’s coronation recently as well but this one is something you earn over a very long period of time. Stories about a few individuals wearing medals they are not entitled to really do wind me up as well, have come across it as well but not many.
Royalty and military leaders around the world seem to cover themselves in undeserved medals , we had a stores person who never did any fighting but still got the medal as he was there for the qualifying period !
@@kevinmoffatt Royals who are commissioned officers earn their service medals and awards, flying brevets etc, like Charles, Andrew (especially as he served in war), William, and latterly Harry, not to mention Dukes who served in various Regiments, honourably, and are still serving the nation, thus their commissions and promotions are usually based on time served. Yes some are honorary but they represent Regiments proudly and in other roles.
A great video with a rather sad message all in all. We had a Walt in my service lodge, was a good friend of mine and I had taken his word as his bond. No gongs nor glitter to speak of except come 11/11 for our wreath laying ceremony where his display made me rather upset. I decided to demit after that incident. I was trained by a Falklands vet, great man and a good friend to this day but youd never know what he went through unless you asked him. It does make me angry yet makes me feel bad for them and our vets as well. Hang tough mate! Your blinding. Also, got to love South Wales ;) Neyland born and bred son! Used to romp around Porthgain as a young boot for the walks hah
The lads and lasses in the Royal Fleet auxiliary service ended up with loads of gongs i recieved six my rarest one was for service in angola UNAVEM III served on the rebuilt Sir Galahad. Nice video sarge 😂
My grandad was a CSM in the Coldstream Guards. Couple of years ago, he spotted a Walt peacocking at a Remembrance Day parade. Had medals on he wasn’t even born when awarded. My gramps being a man of few words, marched up and punched the Walt in the face and took his medals off him. One of the proudest days of my life.
I was a para in the SAS. Okay, okay... that was a bit of a lie. I was a paramedic, but I never did work for Surrey Ambulance Service. I worked in Dorset 🙂
Remember running into a guy on the rifle range... civilian, still at school... wearing a US M-65 jacket with a CIB / Combat Infantry Badge. I was not impressed. Even though the guy was not flaunting it in uniform, that badge was so honored among front line US troops in WWII, it was sometimes the only distinction the veterans chose to wear home.
yes there is the Expert Infantryman Badge EIB which does not have the silver addition, my cousin who is English heritage but born of English parents in the USA, was in Afghanistan and earned his EIB then got his CIB, he will only ever wear the CIB his Para wings, and two ribbons for active service, out of respect for those they lost, who earned the CIB but did not survive.
There was a senior member of the RBL caught out a few years ago wearing the Silver Jubilee Medal. As many of you will know, these were issued on a very limited basis, around 8 per Major Unit (Bn, Regt, etc). He was found not to have been issued one, and had to resign his position. Now the question of whether there should have been more SJM issued is a complex one, that's been argued about for decades, but the fact is there weren't many to start with, he didn't get one, and was found out. Oh, and if you need to check, a full list of all named personnel awarded the SJM was kept - unlike for other Jubilee Medals, which weren't even engraved with names / numbers....
Most ex military I know don't talk about it unless asked. I've heard lads blabbing off in pubs talking about being in the army but as soon you ask them to go into detail they clam up. A lion doesn't have to tell the other animals in the jungle they are a lion. I've never heard anyone say they couldn't hack basic training they just say oh the got injured, the fact of the matter is a lot more people fail than pass basic training but the failures will never tell you they couldn't hack it. 😂😂😂
I used to know a guy I went clubbing with, turns out he was ex para, had been in Sierra Leone. Never told anyone, but did show me photos one day. Took a while for him to open up about his service.
@@DJW1981 most genuine veterans wouldn't talk about it unless prompted. The ones who do are usually ones who were in a short time and try to big themselves up in front of civvies. I was only in 6 years but in that time did two tours of Northern Ireland 3 years armoured infantry Germany and one years public duties including trooping the colour in 1987. Looking back I did quite a lot in a short space of time but I enjoyed it while I was in and met some great mates.
Hopefully he's been kicked out. That's one thing i can't stand. I'm 62 i never served down the Falklands during the war. But I've been down twice since the war in 1990 and 1992. Whilst I was serving with thd RFA on Gold Rover and Grey Rover. I can vouch for the brutal weather and conditions down there
Fantastic work all who take or took the Schilling, ignore the muppetry and stand tall 🇬🇧 lest we forget. 82 was the biggest show of bravery, inspiration under unbelievably difficult conditions. Everyone had to tab n yomp as the helis were on the Atlantic Conveyor and could not be flight readied in time, outstanding work 🕊
I was in the Royal Navy for a while, I tell everyone that I had to come out because I kept getting cramp in my chest from all the medals. The amount of people that accept that as the truth is truly alarming ! If they don’t accept that my next statement is that I left the service because I couldn’t raise my arms up due to the amount of gold on my sleeves. My time in the services was fantastic and I do not need to display fake awards in order to impress people.
Good Tab today Sir, and that story about wearing badges and medals is unbelievable, thank you being correct to challenge this, I believe I to be wrong to wear the medals of a campaign of which you were not involved to be a disrespectful and highly irritating to those that payed the ultimate sacrifice in any given campaign , absolutely, throw the book is right, and as for a high ranking Police officer, words fail me, the integrity of his force is completely undermined, how can we trust him? Very sad, any hoo nice tab and rant sir!💂🏽♂️
My late father (716 (Airborne) Light Composite Company) was scathing of 'pretenders' of the type you have discussed. Dad was proud of having served, but only in his final years did he open up about some of his experiences. I appreciate that some people like to dress up as re-enactors (there are two such parades of vehicles and medal-wearing flag-waving cos-players in my neck of the woods this weekend), but Dad's dismissive opinion was that had any of them experienced the horrors of the sharp end of war, they would realise there is nothing to celebrate.
Great vid again Keith, don’t worry about ranting a bit, we all do it… Have to say “Walter Mitty’s” make my blood boil. We should adopt the yanks point of view and make it an offence to steal valour. REspect Sir.
I started out as a Army Cadet in 1965, became an instructor in 1970 . Left in 1973 and joined the T.A. in '75 became CSM in '85. Left in2001. Then worked for the RFCA ( Reserve Forces and Cadet Association until 2018. I have never or ever will pretend to be anything I am not. If I had found someone doing that, it would be a very bad day for the individual. Thanks 👍
I’m not a soldier, never have been, I agree with everything you said there. My father was a navigator in the RAF in ww2., now dead, he would be disgusted at someone who disguised themselves like that. Thanks for coming up with the goods.
Great video LT59...I love a Walter...meet the buggers everywhere 😂😂😂...any suaddie can tell another squaddie within a minute of speaking to him as you well know ...like the way you describe this story is exactly as things happen in the army, the terminology , the barracks the procedures etc...another entertaining video LT59 thankyou
Cheers Andrew, I agree with you 💯 about how easy it can be to spot a Walt, especially when you start to chat with one. Thank you for your support mate 👍
I was in 'nam in 67 with the green berets. After I came home I wandered from plave to place. In this one town a hick cop tried to ru n me out of town. All I wanted was a piece of pie and a cup of coffee. Things didn't go too well for that hick cop and 10 of his buddies
Nice one Keith. The police officer was dismissed gross misconduct because his supposed military service was a key factor in his job application. I left the Army in December 1981 to live and work in Africa. My battalion was deployed on Op Corporate. When I returned to the UK in 1983 I was astonished by the number of fantasists I bumped into who claimed to have served down south with my old unit. Some had clearly researched the basics but none of them ever knew any of the larger-than-life personalities one finds in most military units. And naturally, none could ever recall their own service number. Bit of a give away right there. 🙂
As a civilian I find this incredibly embarrassing. My father was a very down to earth man and had been a career soldier, finishing his service as a WO1 like you. He served throughout WW2 from day one until the end. He didn`t come away with a bag full of medals and he almost never talked of the horrors that he saw, but he did talk of the lighter moments and of his career during peace time in Africa and the Middle East before the war. I`ve found this to be true of most genuine veterans. I have over the years heard some really tall tales from people who claim to have been in or have actually served. Even as a civilian I can tell when someone is lying and it doesn`t benefit anyone. Shame on the Copper who did this. How can he ever hold his head up in public again.
Well said mate you sound like your describing my Farther to a T ,he never mentioned the bad only the funny and he never went to any reunions just remembrance Sunday on the telly and he was left with some really bad physical injuries and some mental scars wich he allso never spoke about only to Mum
I'm a civilian but members of my family have served (none in the Falklands), that copper was just plain disrespectful and the lie that he was in the Falklands War is a disservice to those who fought, bled and even died so the Falklands could be liberated.
My great uncle Vic (now deseased) had a similar career by the sound of it. He was a Sgt Major, a career soldier and also served in North Africa and the Middle East, before, during, and after the war, he helped settle troubles in Palestine after WW2. He got shot on 2 occasions during the war, and one of the times was left for dead by German soldiers, but luckily around 24 hours later, the Allies came through the scene of the previous day's battle, and found him barely alive. He had been shot in the chest, so was a very lucky man. He went back out fighting as soon as he could too. A strange anecdote to this story, is that unfortunately, he died in hospital suffering from Dementia, or Altziemers, and although he couldn't recognise his wife or most family members, he had full on conversations, in Arabic, with the middle Eastern Doctors and nurses, who were treating him. This was in the mid 1990's when he died, and hadn't spoke a word of Arabic probably since the early 1950's, when he was still in Palestine. It is strange how the brain works, where you can't remember what you had for breakfast, or the name of your wife, but you can remember how to speak a fluent language, you learnt over 50 years ago, and haven't used in nearly 40 years.
@@gutz323 That was the sort of men that they were. A different generation, a tougher generation. When I read your comment I wondered if your uncle and my Father ever met. If your uncle was into boxing in the military then it`s quite possible.
Same as both my Grandads (who both fought in WW2) when they were alive. Not a whisper. Must have seen some terrible sights.
Former Northants Police Chief Constable Nick Adderley has been found to have committed gross misconduct and has been dismissed.
Good, but what about his pension I wonder
@@LetsTab59-bd4fdNever heard of a chief constable being thrown out before.🧑✈️
Been a right Walt, claimed in the navy as well. But was only in cadets.
Sacked without notice, so probably waved bye bye to his pension as well.
Must have thought he would get away with it, so didn't jump before he was pushed, that might have meant he kept his pension.
@@LetsTab59-bd4fd That should be denied him drawing even a penny......
He was on £176,550 a year and getting full pay throughout the investigation. From what I read discussions will be taking place next week to determine punishment if any but as a minimum he should lose his pension and be made to pay back his salary from when he was suspended. Not 100% sure it’s true but apparently his ex wife was the one who brought his lies and deceit to light. Could be prosecuted for misconduct in public office and fraud by false representation both of which can carry a jail sentence. My guess is nothing happens to him and he gets to keep his pay and pension !
We call it stolen valor over here in the States. I served in the Navy. I absolutely despise service members or the worst of the worst civilians pretending to be something none of them had the balls to serve their country. Just despicable. ⚓🇺🇲🇺🇲
Agreed Dave, 👍 thank you for your service 🇺🇸
@davekelly9657. Blessings to you, brother. ♥ Thank you for your service, sir.👍
I've seen some of these stolen valor videos. Entertaining but I think my mid 70s early 80s Army amigos would prefer to have just battered the liar instead of outing him on mobile phone cam... shit!! mobiles werent invented then were they?😳
I didn't serve, but this seems like a very odd thing to do, they must have no self worth.
@@nicolajohnson1887 Nicola, I only served only 6yrs but that included a tour in Belfast in 1977 few weeks after my 18th Birthday but despite some bum twitching moments saw it as a good character building experience.. but yeah, I've never really understood why someone would pretend to do a job requiring nothing but a torso, 2xlegs, 2xarms and a head. BAOR&N.IRELAND needed bodies so if you had em you were in. They've obviously got issues but their lies&deceit can really upset some ppl, its pretty easy to forget someone especially when they've pretended to be someone else for the last 13/14yrs.. People ask why as a known proper veteran like me failed to catch him out? Easy answer is it was other people in the group he told stories to and tbh I thought he was a f*n idiot, veteran or not and more or less ignored the fool, until I went on Facebook, joined a NI veterans group that required details of service in NI before you could join group. I told em the situation and asked best way to check if he served in NI as I knew he'd told my stepdaughter and some other young females he was haunted&traumatised after his best mate was cut in half by a belt fed M60 machine gun. This was final straw and I was advised to go online and apply to gain access to the still unpublished to the public Northern Ireland Roll of Honour, checked the unit he claimed to have served in(2Gren Guards) and saw 3 deaths from RTAs, a accidental shooting in loading bay (single shot not more) and 1 poor lad who was actually killed by the Provos but 4yrs after the Walt claimed he left the Army. Another mate read it and I sent him a text saying if he might have not been 100%truthful with us lot then not to bother answering text. He didnt so was outed to a few other groups of ppl he told same lies too& they dumped him too. No kidding he lost his entire social circle and any credibility in the Bristol area he might have possibly had.. You reap what you sow as somebody famous once said.. or maybe I just imagined it? Walts? I sh*t em, old mate of mines favourite comment on the subject sadly now passed away but not forgotten.. one last joke for y'all.. I'm Glaswegian so joke best said in that accent. Difference between Bing Crosby???.... Bing sings and Walt Disney.... I'll get my coat.... TAXXXII
He was the Chief Conbstable of Northamtonshire, lied about rank and medals. Nice tab mate, and a great rant, well said.
He was also only 15 during the Falklands.
And he's got the sack without notice. Pension gone a burton too probably.
Defo no guard duties for him.
As a non military person.... What is a Tab?
@@kevindarkstartactical advance to battle
@@kevindarkstar A little walk/run to wake up..
I used to drive a Major General when I served in the WRAC. He wasn't happy when he was given the ribbon for the Queens silver jubilee so he gave it to me.... he felt that they should only have been awarded to the troops.
I won't wear it because it wasn't actually awarded to me but I cherish it because he was such a lovely man to work for and it reminds me of him.
Cracking story, thank you for sharing it. It's obvious to me, and will be to others that read this, that you have one of the army's values which you hold dear, that is Integrity. Well done you. Thank you for commenting 👍
the good man wanted to earn it personal dignity matters .
If a serving Major General gave you a commemorative medal you are entitled to wear it.
There's more honour in a bare chest than a fake medal.
I never got further than Tidworth and Bulford, but still proud to have served.
If you serve, or if you have served, these Walter’s are going to stick out like a sore thumb.
Great comment mate. 100% true, if their uniform etc doesn't give it away, 20 seconds of conversation usually does it.
Err, no in my experience the bloated thumbs end up sticking out like sore Walters.... CNUTs, the lot of them....
Just talking to one makes me raise my eyebrows as their language and daring do, has my ears up, just had one recently, he saw my veterans badge and straight away calling me a crap hat and telling me he was in the paras, Falklands, gulf, Iraq, Afghan, Bosnia, Sierra Leone, but it's when I said gulf war, really who with, that's when the bull started calling it desert storm rather than op granby or the gulf war, plus he was younger than me and I was 15 when the Falklands war was on, so I called him out, he couldn't get away quick enough
There was one down in the southwest, was in the SAS, joined up, did his basic at Hereford then blah,blah,blah. When asked what his parent regiment was he didn't know what that meant.
Oh yeah if you have ever served usually all you need to do is look at them and you can tell if they had served I don't know what it is its just the way we walk and the side burns and clean shave all these things together are usually an indication of a serviceman I hate Walter mittys it's even worse when it's someone who has served and trys telling you they were sas or sbs they must be bigger than the green army 😂 🏴💪🇺🇸👊✌
Me? Ex army, my best friend spider Webb navy, went down south on the Atlantic Conveyor. He went to his bunk and woke up floating in the sea. Transfered to the hospital ship, then the long way home. Three years later, he was a shadow of his former self. He died shortly after.
Now, ask me what i think of Walter Mittys.
Cannot believe people want to Walt. It makes me furious especially after I keep it quiet, how I survived Isandlwana, then led the Charge of the Light Brigade and single handedly raised the siege of Mafeking. Bloody Walt’s.
😂😂😂
You were lucky, I was at Hastings and was next to King Harold when he got the arrow in his eyeball.
I don't like talk about it, but the Duke of Wellington gave me a medal and 6 shillings for taking a French musket round for him at Cadiz....
@@nilsalmquist9424 Crikey, we must have a meet up, I was with Guillaume and Bishop Odo. Didn't really get in to the fight, I was seasick all the way over, trip over my feet and fell flat on the beach.
@@nilsalmquist9424you lucky sod. That could have hurt 😂
I was 12 years old when the Falklands war broke out, and had just returned from Argentina after visiting my father's family and my Grandparents for the first and only time!
The day before the war actually began, I was made to stand in front of my entire school at assembly and tell everyone about my wonderful trip to Argentina.
The next day it became enemy territory!
It was a pretty difficult time for a little kid, especially when my father appeared on ITV condemning both sides.
That sounds a tough ride. Character building. I'm the same age and school could be rough.
That must have been rough.
it was all about money and oil never people .
@@andydudley1775 not for those of us who went!
I bet you got more shit when they beat us with that maradonna hand ball but that second was the best goal ever scored 🏴🏴🏴😂😂
Well, I watched that news item & the miscreant is one Nick Adderly, now the ex chief constable of northants police. He was 15 at the time of the falklands. He was in the navy, but achieved the rank of able seaman but claimed he’d been a Lt. No wonder the public don’t trust the police. All rather sad if you ask me. As you asked, he got the sack! 😊
Suprised he didnt have a Egypt 1882 medal on might have been more believable.
He didn't like it up him.
That proper made me laugh out loud. Brilliant
@@EdMcF1probably loved it tbh 😬😬😬😬
Thank you for your channel. As an older bloke, 58 with blood pressure issues, I've recently started getting into your habit: walking with a bit of weight on. It's how I do my shopping now, I walk the few miles to my local Aldi, load up my rucksack with the shopping, then walk back, usually while talking to my mate on the phone. Trying to build up to carrying a bit more, going a bit further. Thank you for the inspiration.
Thank you for your support. Brilliant idea of tabbing with your shopping. I sure it will help towards improving your blood pressure.
Take care, Lets Tab
Good idea
@@LetsTab59-bd4fdI’m sure I know you sir
@@LetsTab59-bd4fd Wife left in 2022, my dad died in March 2024. To be honest, I was falling apart, but now trying to pull myself back together. You may not realise it, but your videos are providing me with some of the inspiration I've needed. Not blowing smoke up etc , but thank you.
@Dilip122S well I'm glad to hear I'm still of some use. I've been out the Army for 9 years now and most of that time I've been a bit lost. I started this channel about a year ago and it's actually helping me get by. Thank you for your support, it's comments and feedback like yours that spurs me on to keep going 👍
I was in the RAF under training when the Falklands kicked off. We were prepared to provide security for important infrastructure installations. Did we do anything - NO, but we served and were prepared to go. Proud to have served. I ended up with long service and Jubilee medals, ironically in the Police, and wear them with pride.
You were ready and willing. That in itself is contributing to national security.
Ex-Phantom maintainer.
The fact you actually served is enough. You can only do what you given to do. Big respect!
I was in the RAF for 36 years. We never tabbed or yomped. We ordered a taxi. And we never had to dig in. We checked in. ✈🍺
And we, (army), would have struggled without you. 🫡🍺
@@LetsTab59-bd4fd Especially during the Battle of Britain. 😎
lol.
Typical raf wankers. Just like my brother. Soft as shit.❤
My ex Army mate still used that old doozy towards me ( RAF 10 yrs) on a regular basis and I just smile and give a thumbs up 😂
Couldn't aggree more, 8yrs TA no campaigns, bestest of times and fantastic experiences, total respect to those who have earned their genuine campaign medals.
Good video brother. Gulf War vet here. I spent 7 years stationed in Germany near Mainz.
I am a former police Firearms officer both in uniform CID/NCA and special branch. We had a sergeant firearms instructor who bragged about being ex SAS. Said that he had seen action in numerous places from Oman to Ulster. My ex service team mates suspected that he was a Walter. They asked him about dates and barracks which confirmed their suspicions. His service record was checked and confirmed he was indeed a liar as did an SAS RSM. Although we proved to our senior officers that this man was a fraud and not the full shilling he was allowed to continue. Strangely ex service and special branch officers we rostered to another instructor on Training/classification days. Walter was allowed to continued training the youngsters and told them some really fantastic stories about his exploits in 'The Regiment'.
As for medals I could wear both my farther and grandfathers, I didn't earn them so I don't.
My Police good conduct and long service medal remains unworn. They were given to Walter's as above and other similar individuals, so to me therefore it is meaningless.
Ex Chief Constable Adderley should be charged with obtaining his rank and salary by deception S14/15 of the Fraud Act 2006.
What about obtaining a pecuniary advantage by deception, theft act !!!
@@philhunter9158 Can we do the whole of parliament for the same charges 😁
Hi, I followed a similar police route to you, as outlined - minus NCA. I have the police good conduct / long service medal and the Queen's Silver Jubilee medal. These have never been worn, and never seen the light of day since I received them via dispatch. The police service is a civilian organisation and I'm afraid I have to disagree with civilian organisation employees receiving medals, a certificate is good enough.
Absolutely agree 100%......
@@robshirewood5060 no because they come under constitutional law so they are protected by that.
The easy way to out a Walt is to ask for their service number. Not only do they need to know one, but the numbers too tell when you served. Your service number is part of your very DNA.
You need to do an immense amount of homework to be a credible Walt, to know about units, postings etc.
The Corps of Royal Engineers was huge, but everyone knows someone. Its amazing on my FB page the number of mutual friends I have, guys that I have never met know friends of mine.
You have Walters, who are totally fabricated. And Bloaters, who have served, but "enhanced" their CV to something a bit more interesting.
I served for 8 yrs, I don't have a medal to show for my time, it's a matter or circumstances. The years I served (between '83 - '91) there weren't any operational tours except NI. I don't feel the need to creat an alternative life for myself, I'm proud of what I did.
@NobbySapper. And so you should be proud, brother. Service is what counts, not whether you've served in a place where medals were issued for your participation. It's the Walter Mitty's that pretend, or enhance, their stories that I believe gets people's backs up. 👍
My check is what were your last three, if it's a Welsh regiment maybe their last four. (there may be a lot of guys named Jones).
I am a bit like you I served during all the major engagements 75 - 97 but never got an invite. When the first Gulf War kicked off I got sent to Belize as a diving instructor of all things, there were so many flights going to Dhahran that we flew Monarch to Belize.
Spent a lot of time in NI (support helicopters) doing nothing more heroic than staggering back from the NAAFI at Aldergrove of an evening.
As for Walt's, they don't really bother me, bit sad really.
Ironically I live in Northamptonshire and what worries me more is the background checks of Police officers.
Worked with a bloke once who spent 2 years trying to convince me that he'd been in the army. Asked him his number and he reeled off 4 digits. Asked again a while later and got 4 slightly different numbers. Turned out he failed the medical for colour blindness. Mind you it could have been the intelligence test he failed as well.
I like the idea of 'bloaters' :) And the Service Numbers idea is one I've used in the past when I've been approached by beggars - "Ex-Forces, please help". If real, I'll help, if a Walt, then no, direct them to some proper help.
When they say they’re a para and don’t know the TRF for the 3 battalions 🤣🔴🔵🟢
I totally agree. How on earth did he think he could get away with it.
God only knows, I mean that Falklands medal is very recognisable
Presumably he skipped, or was fast tracked past; the 'Spotting the Bleeding Obvious' class at Hendon
Some people have all the brass neck it takes to delude, con and deceive. People passing themselves off as doctors, surgeons, shrinks etc, isn't unheard of.....
asking them there last three ususally catches them out I remember we had a bloke claiming to be ex army where I worked once did not take long to catch him out
An American colleague of mine in Cambodia told me that they were being inundated by “Vietnam War” Walt’s. All allegedly spec ops of one type or another.
No truck drivers, bedding store men, cooks etc. No wonder they lost: nobody could get fed, pick up any ammo or get a decent night’s kip :)
Yeah Walt’s never pretend to be blanket stackers do they😂😂😂😂
I’ve met a few Walts post service.
They’ve usually claimed to be either from the REs or from some lesser known infantry unit that was subsequently amalgamated.
The RE cover can work (for a while) because it was a huge corps with troops stationed all over the world. I only met lads I’d joined up with on two occasions in 14 years! (But we had an Army back then).
Unless you were infantry yourself (or had done a tour with them) chances are you wouldn’t know The Worcesters from The Sherwood Foresters, so that could also work for a while.
Another issue I’ve come across frequently when people learn I’m ex services is -
“I was going to join up but…………”.
In fact I saw a T shirt recently which had printed on it something like -
‘I was going to join the Army but…….. I did!’ 🤣
As far as offences committed by the W Anchor Chief Constable goes it might fall into the category of ‘using a false instrument’ if it has involved him achieving personal gain.
I’ll bet there are a few medal ribbons being unpicked around the country right now! 🤣🤣🤣
And well done Keith for taking action against that cadet officer 👏🏻
To be fair I would guess most of the "I was going to join but" crowd are people who did genuinely contemplate joining but decided not to and now recognise how good a career it could have been. I've never served but know people who did and I can see clearly they got a lot out of their time in.
One of your best videos yet, pal. A noble message and super scenery. Greetings from my holiday in the south of France 😎
I'd hate the thought of Walter exposing himself.
😂😂😂
I met a 'Walt' at his own wedding reception. His new wife introduced us with great excitement thinking we'd have loads to talk about. As I shook his hand, I said "hey up Royal, congratulations". He face dropped and I picked-up on this immediately. After asking him a few questions about Pass-Out dates, Units etc, we quickly established he'd been on a PRC (3-day Potential Recruits Course) but wasn't taken forward to attempt the Commando course / CTCRM. His wife had told me earlier that prior to being a fitness instructor, he'd been in the Royal Marines for 5-years!!!
I'm guessing they lived happily ever after?
I used to work with a guy who claimed to be ex Paras, SAS and Foreign Legion. He actually did look the part and seemed confident telling stories. He slipped up when he told me he was 19 when he served in the Falklands when previously he had told me he celebrated his 18th birthday on the way down. I asked him if he had any photos of his glittering military career and apparently he met a woman who ran a pub in Hereford which burned down and they all got destroyed in the fire.
I was in the pub tonight trying to order a drink from a man who claimed to be a bartender.
Bartender. He was never a bartender. It took me 10 minutes to get a pint! ☺️
@@PeterBren I've spent all week working with someone who claims to be a "Manager".
There's no way on earth that's true!
@PeterBren It's always the Falklands people lie about. I knew another guy who claimed to have a 'mate' who served. He struggled to remember his surname or which regiment or unit he was in. Finally he told me he had retired but was in the TA serving in Germany when he was specially recalled. He even showed me a photo from Google images which bizarrely was of a US air force officer who had more medals than Idi Amin.
“Every man thinks meanly of himself for not having been a soldier, or not having been at sea”
Samuel Johnson
I enjoy dropping in on your channel from time to time, keep up the good work ⚓️🏴☠️
a few years ago i went to a remembrance day parade with my 2 medals on and while waiting around for the service to start i was approached by 2 men in suits with berets on. they started asking all sorts of questions about what where why and how i got the medals. i told them to politely go away in two words and that i wasn't a walt. they both laughed and introduced themselves and we had a good old chat about where we served!!!
Am I right in thinking that your own medals are worn on the left breast and someone else's ( father, brother, uncle ) on the right beast? At remembrance services and the like.
@@darnstewartyes. I have worn my grandfather's medals on the right side at a remembrance service.
@@TheCardiganRme too, though apparently the iron cross isn't that well received 😂
I used to do Remembrance Days, only had the NI medal, but the buggers I went to school with and also joined up would have NI,Gulf, Falklands,NATO, UN etc. They'd be behind me on the parade, "we've got more medals than yoooouuu!" Ha ha. Cheeky f**kers.
Killed me
Totally agree , stolen valour is the correct title. I collect millitaria and display medals etc., but wouldn't dream of wearing them, not even my grandfather's world war 2 set. Great video well said.
Funnily enough, I could wear my father's WWII service medals, and Police GC (on the right)... if only he'd claimed them!
(He said he did nothing more than anyone else: 1939 - '46 RAF Combat Aircrew AG/Sigs)
Misconduct in public office. This type of deceitful behaviour on public display is an insult to all who give or have given loyal service. It also tarnishes the reputation of our Police Force.
It couldn't get much worse...TRUST can't be bought 👉😵👈❗
I served 11 years in the Welsh Guards and a 3 year veteran of Northern Ireland. My motivation to join was the Falklands War, and I have a lot of good friends who were on the Sir Galahad, so I take it personally with what that so-called police officer did. One close friend who served there cut his own throat at a war memorial where I live. And that muppet is walking around with a South Atlantic medal. I don't know why people do it because they always get found out. All I have is my GSM from service in Northern Ireland, but I'm happy with that, there is no way on this planet I would even dream of adding to it or lying about what I did, or didn't do. It really is sickening.
All you have is a GSM? Its more than enough mate. You took the oath, stood on hostile ground and served. 💪🙏👊
my mate was there NEMO ME IMPUNE
I also have just the one medal, for 17.5 years undetected crime, the LS&GCM, I reckon yours beats mine.
@@johnnunn8688 I'm not so sure mate. 17½ years without getting nicked. That's something else. I'd have never got one. 😁
I was RRW we took over Ballykelly camp from you I was rear party in Tern Hill seen a lot of scared and disfigured men who where on the Sir Galahad and fought like Hero's to liberate the Falkland Islands..so when I see Walters like the copper it make my blood boil
My father was an RSM in the Army and served over 20 plus years then went to Oman as a Captain with the Omani’s he like yourself spotted a fake and used to tell me, he would listen to people supposedly ex army tell their tales and let them dig a hole for themselves with Bull I enjoyed your input you reminded me so much of my fathers ways and straight talking.
It's high time that this is treated as crime as they do in the U.S. I served as a Royal Naval Reservist for 26 years and would not dream of claiming any award that was not due to me. I enjoyed this video,thanks Sergeant Major,(Bravo Zulu!)
Cheers Rob 👍
I notice they never say they served in the catering corps, logistics etc. Always Marines, Paras Etc. I know he wasn't in the SAS or i would have seen him on the balcony! Mind you, you wouldn't have noticed me as I was wearing my respirator!
Big balcony that one lol thousands
I really appreciate videos like this, I tried out for the forces but sadly failed the medical, how my life would have been different?? The thought of people wearing medals that they've not earnt is disgusting in my eyes. I'm sure we all know lads and ladies who have served and have some good stories to tell, but, they have time served!!! They earnt their place, they earnt their silver. I've found this channel by accident and I've subbed, look forward to more updates. God bless sir
It makes you wonder how they vet police applicants. I know that they did not do a thorough job on his application. Compare firearms licence to his job application.
In my area alone (Cumbria) the local police service has dismissed a number of police officers over the past 20 odd years or so, for various reasons.....
TOTALLY AGREE
Head copper will have the funny handshake mob look after his back
You're sadly right I fear
Depends if he has also lied to them. They wont care he lied to the police, but lying to brother masons is another thing entirely.
You did right Keith fair play.
As an orthodontist I have no doubt, Clive is a nice guy for giving you that book.
Thank you for the mention Brother love you
Always, and see you very soon.🏴
Trust me when I say, I don’t know any cop that’s isn’t disgusted about this and most of us myself included haven’t served!
Hi mate,
Stumbled across your video whilst avoiding doing other things. I’ve never commented on anything on UA-cam, but wanted to say that I really enjoyed coming along on your tab/bimble with banter. I miss the honest, humble, pull up a sandbag banter from my own time in. Incidentally, I’m a former bootneck; Z Coy, 45 Cdo Rm, down south in 82, so I appreciate you drawing attention to these lost fools that wear gongs they haven’t earned. I try to brush it off as just people trying to make up for some sort of inadequacy, but in truth it still hurts a bit when I think about the lads who didn’t get to wear their gongs. Anyway, take care, good health, and I hope your knees hold up.
Love and respect
Dave
Cheers Dave and much respect from this old hat. Knees doing OK have one ankle that niggles now and again but gentle tabbing helps. All the best to you and well done to you and the lads that went down South. 🫡🙏🍻
Not sure why people make stuff up ...I was ex firefighter and old bill I always liked working with ex military lads great humour making stuff up is sad. He got booted out rightly so.
Sadly I’ve only ever met one guy who was on the balcony back in ‘80 and apparently there were hundreds of them…
🤣🤣🤣🤣🫡cheers Paz
my father was a warrant officer in the army and he was ordanance and he hated anyone who were walter mitty,s because a true soldier would not brag about what he did when in the military
at the time of the falklands conflict he would have been 15 years old, so i doubt it is his.
Just subbed as, if honest, you remind me of my uncle, Michael Cox who ended up as a battery Sergeant Major in the Royal Artillery. His best friend was his senior, a RSM, called Gerry but not sure of his surname now. I believe they both left the army in about 1977 having served in Ireland, BAOR and Hong Kong among other places. I believe their regiment had FH70 field artillery and latterly then went over to self propelled artillery in the form of Abbots. My uncle died about 2000 and Gerry about 10 years ago. He used to come down with his wife and come round here with my mums sister, Michaels wife. Gerry was a giant of a man and I can still remember that he would don a pair of white gloves and run his fingers along the top of my door frame seeing how much dust he could find. I was in my early 40s by then but felt like a raw recruit and had such admiration for both of them. Although retired many years, when my uncle died, Gerry arranged for a bugler from the RA to come over from Germany and play the last post in full uniform as we all filed out of the service. He still had some welly and standing with the Regt even then I assume.
Nick, thank you for your support 🙏.
Great family story glad you shared it much appreciated. All the best 🫡
Just to clear up an issue, there are two South Atlantic medals, one with a Rosette and one without.
The rosette issued medal was for those who spent one day on the Falklands etc before 14th June 82.
The one without the rosette was for those who working up on Ascension Island, qualifying period was 30 days before 21 Ocober 82. The second one came about after an investigation, as lot of Veterans complained as the MoD hadn't declared when the campaign had ended, the MoD had an investigation into the case and found in the veterans favour.
He was 12 during the Falklands war. How he thought he would get away with that.
He was dismissed for gross misconduct today.
No he wasn’t 12. He was 15. If you are going to quote facts, at least get them right.
He said he had done 10 years in the Navy, he did 2. He was a child at the time of the Falklands war. He was an ordinary Able Seaman.
It was half true, he did 8 of those years in the sea cadets!
Met a walter in my local pub, told me he was in the army 12 years, did iraq and afghanistan, asked him what regiment he was in when in the army, and he said Royal Marines, pointed out to him that if you told a Marine he was in the army, he would probably tell you to F off, Marines are navy. It's still not stopped his waltering, heard him going on to someone else, but now he was a para, lol
My late dad was 7rha he used to say his wings were worth pennies in cloth but earned through blood sweat and tears...he hated walts
It's crazy that people are doing this all over the country.
He was absolutely correct saying that.
The amount on Walts is on the Rise for some Reason, met a few of late within the biker Community, badges fucking everywhere 😅
Now *that* is quite an achievement, joining the army and ending up in the Royal Marines......
Walter Mitty was character created in 1939 by American writer James Thurber subsequently made into a 1947 film "The Secret Life of Walter Mitty" with Danny Kaye in the title rôle. Remade in 2013.
The character you are referring to is Battery Sergeant-Major Tudor Bryn "Shut Up" Williams, a prominent figure in the beloved British television sitcom "It Ain't Half Hot Mum." This iconic role was masterfully brought to life by the talented actor Windsor Davies. The series, which captivated audiences from 1974 until 1981, chronicled the humorous and often chaotic adventures of a Royal Artillery Concert Party. These soldiers were stationed in India and Burma, navigating the complexities and absurdities of military life during the closing stages of World War II. Through its clever writing and memorable performances, "It Ain't Half Hot Mum" offered a unique blend of comedy and wartime drama, leaving a lasting impression on its viewers.
Well done it needed to be said. I have a little military stall in Llandudno antique market ,and I get some right howlers but on the most goods people . Keep them coming. Sorry about the late text we work nights just 4 grumpy old vets .
He was kicked out of the police. My favourite Walt story: I was walking past Charing Cross Police Station many years ago. I spotted a gent leaving said police station wearing a Brigade of Gurkhas tie and beret with a 7GR cap badge. My favourite uncle scored a double MC in Burma with said regiment, so I know them well, though I served with 3 Queen’s. I introduced myself to him and checked his medals: GC, MC, SAM, GSM (Borneo clasp) and a couple of others! I questioned the GC- my uncle’s batman scored the only 7GR VC, so, again, I am pretty well informed- he informed me that GC was from Borneo, MC from somewhere else. The only thing he had correct was that 7GR was 'Down South'. To have served in both Borneo- '60s and Falklands- '82, he would have been the oldest serving officer on the planet! Sadly, I didn’t confront him at the time or take his name, but called some friends in the Brigade who outed him instantly. One wonders what goes through their minds!
It's crazy, the lengths some people go to.
Which battalion were you? I remember my first RSM in Fallingbostel in ‘85. Top bloke
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John Wright, Mike Scott, Jonathan Riley, Rob Walker, Paddy Panton?
@keithgubbin2354 no, but I was only with 1 PWRR for OP Telic 4, prior to that I was with 5 PWRR for a short period, then HQ 2 Bde until Telic.
Thanks, Another great informative video. Back in '82 I was serving in Cyprus as a 19 year old during the Falklands Conflict. I've heard on the news that copper was only 15 then. Its an utter disgrace what he's done over all these years. Lying to everyone about a distinguished service career, that was only infact 2 years as an Seaman. Great hes lost his job, & I hope his pension also. Hopefully NO ONE WILL EMPLOY HIM as he's been caught out to being a dishonest lying N O N C E Cheers & keep up these great videos. All the best, Kevin 🤝
Thanks for commenting and for your support Kevin, it's much appreciated mate 👍
@@LetsTab59-bd4fdjust subscribed to your channel. All the best 👍 Kevin. Atleast I've got my official veterans card to prove my service now along with all my demob papers. Don't know how that Leech pulled the wool over the police recruitment teams eyes all those years ago. Reason he got sacked was he lied on his job application & that's grounds for instant sacking under any employment. You can lie as much as you want in a CV but never in a job application.
Thank you for your service!
Thank you for your support 🙏
To claim service or wear medals not awarded is disrespectful of those that can. Simple.
Well said Martin
I got pulled up for my UN Cyprus medal as the guys did not recognise it. After i explained i had to endure many hangovers and sunburn to get that one. Other tours were pretty shit compared to Cyprus
I'm honest, I have never served in the forces in any capacity in my life. This senior Police officer has not only hurt veterans, but he's also hurt veterans' families they have to wait at home for them. He shouldn't claim another person's efforts and experiences, 'shameful'.
nephew of mine was recently turned down joining the Welsh police.Got thru all the selection ,medical etc but turned down very last stage "for personal reasons" thing is they wont tell him what it was exactlys. He was quite upset understandably
I have only one medal, a copy of the original that is long lost. I have never worn it and care nothing for it. I didn't fight, didn't even see the enemy. I was just there. Gulf War 1.
I understand. But thank you for your service 🇬🇧
I am an ex cop, 29 years service. My Dad went in after D day with the Glasgow Highlanders. This bloke, a so called " senior officer" has, no doubt issued bollockings to hard working, ground pounding, coppers, who were probably just doing their jobs. What a frigging Walt. Nothing but scorn for this bloke. Bless all our vets. We DO appreciate you.
A sentiment I wholeheartedly endorse, coincidentally my father also served with the 2nd Battalion Glasgow Highlanders in North West Europe.
So glad to see your video walkaround of Sir John Moore Barracks. I was there as a 15 year old Junior Leader from July 1990.
Didnt last long but will never forget being beasted around the quadrant, and made to lie in our backs and write the alphabet in the air with our feet. As soon as someones feet hit the floor we started again from "a".
My boy is in the RAF Regiment now, and there were no beastings or in the ear shouting during his basic.
I met several cadet instructors who loved strutting about, impressing the young cadets with stories they'd picked up in a mess somewhere, but never served. It's a bone of contention with adult instructors who did serve, when these buggers never served but like wearing the uniform.
Where we are, the ones running the county cadet force never did time and don't like using vets as instructors because they have medals and experience. Go in to enquire about joining,they soon showed you the door, one mate had a chestful of medals, adventure trg qualies, he never heard a squeak.
cheers sir another entertaining video as usual
He was 15 at the time of the Falklands, and lied further to join the Police, this particular award belonged to one of his relatives who emigrated and gave it to him before he left.
i can see you are really proud of your service , rightly so. they dont make em like you any more .
its a shame that what all the soldiers fought for along the way ,has been stripped from the world of today
thank you for your service ,god bless
Thank you Dave for your kind words and support it's much appreciated
I am a civilian, though I served in the Royal Observer Corps during the mid to late 70s. I didn’t serve the full term of 12 years to receive my medal and am therefore not allowed to wear any medals. I would never dream of wearing something I am not entitled to wear and I am extremely disgusted with this Police Officer lying about his Service credentials. I too hope that he gets served the justice he deserves. God bless all those whom have served and thank you.🫡🇬🇧🇺🇸🇨🇦
Well said mate.
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5:10 I got called a Walter, I was a MOD CAP and for the job I was special Constable from 76 to79 in Alexander Bks with the RMP and the green Howards I was armed then. I was UDR from 79 to 91 and Royal Irish from 91 to 01 and called back in 02 I have GSM ACSM with 7 bars all on Op Banner, I was told no way I could have served in NI that long. This officer RN he didn't know there was such a thing home service Regiment in NI
I met up, accidentally, one Remembrance Sunday in a pub in London, there were about 10 UDR Veterans there, they all had multiple Bars on their ACSM. And hard earned they were. Cracking Unit the UDR and later the R. Irish. All very brave to have served and lived among the community out there. Much respect 🙏 🫡
I had a mucker from 2 RGJ did 17 tours on op banner, he actually never wore his medals
Really enjoyed this content, thank you
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Thank you for sharing that 👍 my friend Bill from notts went Falklands he was only 18 he was in 2 para , we were in prison a long time ago and a con stupidly claimed to have also been in 2 para , well as you can imagine that didn't end well , Billy should never have been in jail , from the day he got nicked even in court he would only give his army number , top bloke .
I'd a mate who was in the falklands, a para. I know it affected him. Those medals were hard won.
Well said
So true baz a mate of mine was shot in the back still suffers to this day... the pain of that war still effects people. Baz is a cracking sort and mad as hatter. Tough war tough men.
Does the Walter Mitty Hunting Club still exist ?
Not really sure. They had a Facebook page I think but could be wrong
Have a look at Don Shipley. Former Navy seal and now a verify of stolen valour. Great guy and a great channel.
Remember seeing that on the news a few days ago and was absolutely gobsmacked!
I’m a serving soldier of 21 years with only months to go before I “collect my pension” and only yesterday I was awarded my LS&GC after serving 15 years of no major disciplinary (yes, I had a discipline at my 6 year point). It’s the first medal I’ve been personally awarded in a long time because you don’t get any for second and beyond tours of the same operational theatre. But, it felt so nice to be awarded that by the brigade commander in front of my wife and an absolute honour to be able to wear that because I’ve earned it. Obviously, had the jubilee medals and king’s coronation recently as well but this one is something you earn over a very long period of time.
Stories about a few individuals wearing medals they are not entitled to really do wind me up as well, have come across it as well but not many.
Royalty and military leaders around the world seem to cover themselves in undeserved medals , we had a stores person who never did any fighting but still got the medal as he was there for the qualifying period !
Not just the medals, they have all the exalted rank too; it must really grate when in the services to see these peacocks strutting around.
@@kevinmoffatt Royals who are commissioned officers earn their service medals and awards, flying brevets etc, like Charles, Andrew (especially as he served in war), William, and latterly Harry, not to mention Dukes who served in various Regiments, honourably, and are still serving the nation, thus their commissions and promotions are usually based on time served. Yes some are honorary but they represent Regiments proudly and in other roles.
I don't get how he went through the ranks and never got vetted to the point where it was flagged up!
A great video with a rather sad message all in all. We had a Walt in my service lodge, was a good friend of mine and I had taken his word as his bond. No gongs nor glitter to speak of except come 11/11 for our wreath laying ceremony where his display made me rather upset. I decided to demit after that incident. I was trained by a Falklands vet, great man and a good friend to this day but youd never know what he went through unless you asked him. It does make me angry yet makes me feel bad for them and our vets as well. Hang tough mate! Your blinding. Also, got to love South Wales ;) Neyland born and bred son! Used to romp around Porthgain as a young boot for the walks hah
The lads and lasses in the Royal Fleet auxiliary service ended up with loads of gongs i recieved six my rarest one was for service in angola UNAVEM III served on the rebuilt Sir Galahad. Nice video sarge 😂
My grandad was a CSM in the Coldstream Guards. Couple of years ago, he spotted a Walt peacocking at a Remembrance Day parade. Had medals on he wasn’t even born when awarded. My gramps being a man of few words, marched up and punched the Walt in the face and took his medals off him. One of the proudest days of my life.
I was a para in the SAS. Okay, okay... that was a bit of a lie. I was a paramedic, but I never did work for Surrey Ambulance Service. I worked in Dorset 🙂
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Remember running into a guy on the rifle range... civilian, still at school... wearing a US M-65 jacket with a CIB / Combat Infantry Badge. I was not impressed.
Even though the guy was not flaunting it in uniform, that badge was so honored among front line US troops in WWII, it was sometimes the only distinction the veterans chose to wear home.
yes there is the Expert Infantryman Badge EIB which does not have the silver addition, my cousin who is English heritage but born of English parents in the USA, was in Afghanistan and earned his EIB then got his CIB, he will only ever wear the CIB his Para wings, and two ribbons for active service, out of respect for those they lost, who earned the CIB but did not survive.
There was a senior member of the RBL caught out a few years ago wearing the Silver Jubilee Medal. As many of you will know, these were issued on a very limited basis, around 8 per Major Unit (Bn, Regt, etc). He was found not to have been issued one, and had to resign his position. Now the question of whether there should have been more SJM issued is a complex one, that's been argued about for decades, but the fact is there weren't many to start with, he didn't get one, and was found out.
Oh, and if you need to check, a full list of all named personnel awarded the SJM was kept - unlike for other Jubilee Medals, which weren't even engraved with names / numbers....
Most ex military I know don't talk about it unless asked. I've heard lads blabbing off in pubs talking about being in the army but as soon you ask them to go into detail they clam up. A lion doesn't have to tell the other animals in the jungle they are a lion. I've never heard anyone say they couldn't hack basic training they just say oh the got injured, the fact of the matter is a lot more people fail than pass basic training but the failures will never tell you they couldn't hack it. 😂😂😂
I used to know a guy I went clubbing with, turns out he was ex para, had been in Sierra Leone. Never told anyone, but did show me photos one day. Took a while for him to open up about his service.
@@DJW1981 most genuine veterans wouldn't talk about it unless prompted. The ones who do are usually ones who were in a short time and try to big themselves up in front of civvies. I was only in 6 years but in that time did two tours of Northern Ireland 3 years armoured infantry Germany and one years public duties including trooping the colour in 1987. Looking back I did quite a lot in a short space of time but I enjoyed it while I was in and met some great mates.
@@kevinadamson5768 Yes that's what I was saying, this guy I knew for maybe a year before he said anything. Sadly don't remember his surname.
Hopefully he's been kicked out. That's one thing i can't stand. I'm 62 i never served down the Falklands during the war. But I've been down twice since the war in 1990 and 1992. Whilst I was serving with thd RFA on Gold Rover and Grey Rover. I can vouch for the brutal weather and conditions down there
Fantastic work all who take or took the Schilling, ignore the muppetry and stand tall 🇬🇧 lest we forget.
82 was the biggest show of bravery, inspiration under unbelievably difficult conditions.
Everyone had to tab n yomp as the helis were on the Atlantic Conveyor and could not be flight readied in time, outstanding work 🕊
I was in the Royal Navy for a while, I tell everyone that I had to come out because I kept getting cramp in my chest from all the medals. The amount of people that accept that as the truth is truly alarming ! If they don’t accept that my next statement is that I left the service because I couldn’t raise my arms up due to the amount of gold on my sleeves. My time in the services was fantastic and I do not need to display fake awards in order to impress people.
he should lose his pension, he got the job on false pretences
I agree, but will he?
Plod must have known that any veteran in his workforce (Inc civil staff) would have known he was walting as soon as they clocked his rack!
I would blame his appointment on a bloody poor vetting process. But then it's who you know or the Masonic lodge!
Good Tab today Sir, and that story about wearing badges and medals is unbelievable, thank you being correct to challenge this, I believe I to be wrong to wear the medals of a campaign of which you were not involved to be a disrespectful and highly irritating to those that payed the ultimate sacrifice in any given campaign , absolutely, throw the book is right, and as for a high ranking Police officer, words fail me, the integrity of his force is completely undermined, how can we trust him? Very sad, any hoo nice tab and rant sir!💂🏽♂️
My late father (716 (Airborne) Light Composite Company) was scathing of 'pretenders' of the type you have discussed.
Dad was proud of having served, but only in his final years did he open up about some of his experiences.
I appreciate that some people like to dress up as re-enactors (there are two such parades of vehicles and medal-wearing flag-waving cos-players in my neck of the woods this weekend), but Dad's dismissive opinion was that had any of them experienced the horrors of the sharp end of war, they would realise there is nothing to celebrate.
Great vid again Keith, don’t worry about ranting a bit, we all do it… Have to say “Walter Mitty’s” make my blood boil. We should adopt the yanks point of view and make it an offence to steal valour. REspect Sir.
I started out as a Army Cadet in 1965, became an instructor in 1970 . Left in 1973 and joined the T.A. in '75 became CSM in '85. Left in2001. Then worked for the RFCA ( Reserve Forces and Cadet Association until 2018. I have never or ever will pretend to be anything I am not. If I had found someone doing that, it would be a very bad day for the individual. Thanks 👍
I’m not a soldier, never have been, I agree with everything you said there. My father was a navigator in the RAF in ww2., now dead, he would be disgusted at someone who disguised themselves like that. Thanks for coming up with the goods.
Great video LT59...I love a Walter...meet the buggers everywhere 😂😂😂...any suaddie can tell another squaddie within a minute of speaking to him as you well know ...like the way you describe this story is exactly as things happen in the army, the terminology , the barracks the procedures etc...another entertaining video LT59 thankyou
Cheers Andrew, I agree with you 💯 about how easy it can be to spot a Walt, especially when you start to chat with one. Thank you for your support mate 👍
Thank you for the entertainment LT59, alwats thouroughly enjoy the content
I was in 'nam in 67 with the green berets. After I came home I wandered from plave to place. In this one town a hick cop tried to ru n me out of town. All I wanted was a piece of pie and a cup of coffee. Things didn't go too well for that hick cop and 10 of his buddies
Mike, that would make a cracking movie. Just need a good title?
@LetsTab59-bd4fd not sure about title but in my minds-eye I think Brian Denehy would make an excellent hick cop
Yes you are correct it is stolen valor and it is a crime here in the US. Seen a few of them at my last job. Everyone was a sniper. 😑
Thanks Ron. Great hearing from the USA as always. 🇺🇸🇬🇧🫡
Nice one Keith. The police officer was dismissed gross misconduct because his supposed military service was a key factor in his job application. I left the Army in December 1981 to live and work in Africa. My battalion was deployed on Op Corporate. When I returned to the UK in 1983 I was astonished by the number of fantasists I bumped into who claimed to have served down south with my old unit. Some had clearly researched the basics but none of them ever knew any of the larger-than-life personalities one finds in most military units. And naturally, none could ever recall their own service number. Bit of a give away right there. 🙂
If memory serves correctly, the South Atlantic medal was awarded for a couple of years after the campaign to anybody who served down South
Great video Keith Can you do one on your own medals and awards , please?💂♂️👍🥃
Good idea David cheers