You need to understand that the world isnt filled with cupcakes rainbows and unicorns. People are using this 'concern' as a way of body shaming and getting clout. Im not saying all people are shaming them but some are.
10:00 as someone who had an ED and had a best friend with the same problem, we both clung to each other like glue and we subconsciously competed with each other. they're giving that same energy
I think both of them might have BPD. so their urge to mirror themselves to others doesn’t work as it usually does to their friendship, and because of that, they bond with each other in the most unhealthy way possible. with their traumas and insecurities
My ex was like that, was really toxic, i did love the blending, but it was to the point my ex formed the whole personality bassed of my personality and likes where i felt like i'm a nobody, and i didn't even felt like i'm in a relationship anymore as the person i loved, started to lose it's personality.
Yeah, and I saw her morphing withing like the first 2 weeks of filming. She instantly changed her complete appearance, she dyed her hair blonde and her brows so that she resembles Cynthia completely and looks bald all the time. She could have worn a wig but no, she literally screenshotted the whole cast and put the pic on her insta and was like "thank you for wearing close you put on my set" i feel like she constantly has to suck up to people she works with so much and do everything in order for them to like her, even being extremely pathetic, that it's scary.
It is the cost of promoting anorexia, witchcraft, mental illness, narcissism and drug use to little girls. Many people will suffer because these little brats want to be in the spotlight. Absolutely disgraceful.
I'm just surprised that I and everyone else didn't see this coming. Ariana's life has been a train wreck since victorious. She was bound to snap eventually.
It’s the cost of promoting witchcraft, anorexia, narcissism, mental illness, home wrecking and much more wicked behavior to little girls for her own greed.
As someone who suffers with severe food intolerance …. Starvation causes delirium. It also causes emotional instability and impairs decision making skills. 😢 this is for sure ozempic and starvation. 😢
Not ozempic they are already super skinny, stop humilating them and assuming stuff. I have a ED and I get this think just because of how depressed I am and how hard it is for me to feel hungry or to force myself to eat, even though it is hard for me to see myself this skinny, i just can not stop it. Ppl commenting on it make it only worse.
this is literally insane! because she was so healthy before and now it’s just scary! i get ED an everything but like she was saying about a contest? hell no that’s way too far.
Ariana’s voice is beautiful, but she doesn’t seem authentic to me. She changes from race/personality all the time and gets away with it. Can she for once just be real? I hope both of the women are okay because they have lost so much weight… it’s actually scary at this point because they never were this thin! 😢❤
I'm sorry? Since when was race a personality trait?? People change over time, you just gotta deal with it. The ONLY issue you can get from this is the fact that the rapid weight loss can't be healthy
I like her too but I've always noticed something inauthentic about her.. I personally felt she was the wrong person to play Glinda for that reason but I truly do hope she will be ok in time
@@Kalani_Saikoyou can't be serious. People change overtime,but they don't make themselves look like different races. Also, there was a time where Ariana Grande was trying to imitate the way that many black women speak. People also don't change everything about themselves whenever they enter into a new relationship. There's a huge difference between growing as a person and just mirroring every singer partner that you're with. Don't make excuses for her.
Why are they acting like this movie is gonna change the world?? Also i think they have grown a lil to close.. co dependant? They seem inseparable and unhealthy way.
do they? it’s their own niche that they’re passionate about? that’s just you who is testing it like that. no one asked you to pedastalize their project you did, don’t fault ppl for your own doings lol
I was just thinking about this exact situation last night. A genuine friendship is always a blessing, I'm just worried about their health. I'm sure working the hours they did to film this can be grueling and hard on the body. I really hope they are feeling okay.
I heard they were worried about her reputation of not being 'a girl's girl' would hurt the movie... w the spongebob scandal still a hot topic... so they told her to get out there and look like a girl's girl as much as possible before the release. So, who knows what we're looking at... at the end of the day. A friendship, a soulmate, an assignment... or her next love interest... a wicked inspired 'thruple' (sp?) wouldn't even surprise me. I'm so over these people.
Excellent analysis. Because Ari has never been this clingy to a single woman she’s been related to in any way. I’ve really never seen her with a female close friend at all, always her male love interests. Always for the male gaze. She’s never been a girls girl, PR working overtime and it shows.
I think it gives cult like energy for sure! But I wonder if she feels like she found someone who really connects with her. Wicked was her dream and being able to film and sing together just made her connected to her.
@beaniebabyV I was thinking the same things and wondering... why do you think this? I am curious because I am wondering if I am picking up the same signs as others...For example starvation and how expensive food now is, that kind of thing and how they are for this movie being THIS skinny as if that is what is sought after, etc. What else made you think about Hunger Games? thank you in advance I am just so curious.
Every single time I see her face, I think about how she went out of her way to break up the family of a newborn, then sang about how she doesn't care. Idk why people still worship the ground she walks on, they're just lost to me. No soul behind the eyes type people.
@@ololusername They’re both responsible to different degrees. He betrayed his wife and did something immoral. Ariana didn’t betray anybody, but she still did something immoral.
because ariana has been waiting her entire life to play this role and now its finally happening. they have also been waiting and working on wicked for almost 3 years and ari and cynthia have been together 24/7 and have made a great impact on eachother. they are allowed to be emotional
@@tatesbaby Looks more like they rubbed off each other's bad habits and demons on each other rather than them making a great impact on each other, but sure.....
@@tatesbaby even “friends “ cast never cried that much when they got separated and their show ended And they have been together for more than 10 years from 1993 to 2004
The thing about the weight loss isn’t that complicated. Actors and models, and so on tend gain EDs. Like Jenette McCurdy. I can only imagine the kind of pressure they were under to uphold something as iconic in the theater kid world besides the relationship drama.
as someone with a personality disorder where one of the symptoms is 'mirroring' others - it's kinda disheartening to watch this video. I'm going to shed some light, here: mirroring happens when someone lacks a sense of identity. I have a P.D. and my mirroring, unfortunately, stems from trauma - trying to be who those around me wanted me to be to gain praise. BUT. I don't think Ariana has a P.D. because if you think about it.. she's been playing other characters in shows, movies, etc. for how many years? I'm sure it's easy to lose a sense of self and kind of.. turn into your character. so mirroring makes sense. a lot of people see that symptom from others with personality disorders and see it as manipulation, but the truth is (from me, at least), it's like 'trying on' mannerisms, hobbies, etc. to see if it truly fits me and if I click with it. also: mirroring is really common with people who aren't celebrities or people who don't have a mental illness; especially when two people are close with eachother. personalities blend. people blend.
Yessss, I agree! And I also really don't get how it relates to their health - like, that is a seperate topic in of itself! And with mirroring, I assume it is probably quite common in actors who do method acting - especially child actors - who, while they are quite literally developing their sense of identity and personality, are playing characters of different people too. So like, of course in some cases that would cause some potential developmental issues! I too suffer from this but in a different way, for example, subconsciously mirroring certain characters that my brain latches onto for whatever reason, but much more frequently and sporadically. Though I have my own very defined personality, I also feel contradictory and opposite to myself - I contain too many defined personalities (DID) - this already causes problems and mirroring characters complicates things, but I digress... that's a completely different topic, but also includes mirroring, for me at least - everyone has their own unique experience, which is the point! What I am trying to say, in terms of Ariana, that it seems quite likely that when she gets really close or attached to people, she would likely mirror them and adopt their mannerisms, way of talking and acting, etc. - which is actually quite common - but it seems that it is rather extreme with her! Anyway, long ramble aside, the human brain is complicated and I think it's silly to define any one thing as 'weird' or 'creepy' - that personally puts a bit of a sour taste in my mouth, especially if something is likely unintentional. Thank youuu, and sorry for the long ramble, haha! ^^
[Disclaimer: I just just wanna add that I am neutral to the matter and don't know much about it or what's going on - I actually don't even know much about Ariana at all nor do I follow her! I am just a person who wanted to share my knowledge and experience with 'mirroring' and would like to encourage others to not be so quick to judge others and label things as 'weird' simply because you don't understand it! Everyone is different, and for some, it's a bit more tricky to navigate the intricacies of identity and the self! I would encourage everyone to always be genuine, however - and stay true to who you are or want to be! :) ]
I have always gotten the vibe that Ariana is insecure, she’s not a girls girl since she’ll steal someone’s man and she’ll keep friends she’s not inferior nor jealous of.. the more time goes by my theory makes more sense.
I have the theory that, with both of them being so skinny I feel like they might be having a ED, and also that make them feel so much for each other... Like, both are going through similar journeys and now it might be that both are using this ED as an unhealthy coping mechanism, and they are so "obsessed" with each other because they're seeing themselves as "inspo" of what their brain wants to achieve. It's common for people who are struggling with am ED to put people who they think is where they want to be in a pedestal, acting like they're the best in the whole world and working their ass off with unhealthy stuff to get into this shape. Maybe that's why they share so many tattoos and "love", because they both want to be the other, but all based on their mental illnesses and unhealthy copying mechanisms, not in actual love and care for the other
Cynthia’s body was gorgeous and definitely is relatable to the American Black woman. Especially a size 6 with her muscle tone and hourglass figure…her body was beautiful. Whoever told her that did not ask America. We not this skinny here!
Hollywood obsession of thinness is ridiculous All women should be treated fairly and they have to eat their food and health is always important than anything else
@@roosaasSorry for the cruelty. But when a star dies, Hollywood is even happy. Let's not forget how popular the stuff with pictures of deceased singers and artists is.
I’m so sick of people using “trauma bond” incorrectly. A trauma bond is between a victim and abuser. Two people who have experienced trauma in their life, doesn’t create a “trauma bond”. 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ I’ve done courses on this ffs.
As someone who has also studied psychology, I’m curious about your thoughts on trauma bonds forming when two people have been through the same significant trauma together. Two victims of circumstance forming a maladaptive bond. I’ve been of the opinion that victim x abuser creates a trauma bond, but two victims of trauma can also become codependent to cope and unhealthily attach to each other. Thoughts?
@@alittlebabyskullyes I was thinking the same thing.... people that go through trauma together as co-victims get trauma bonded. Also sometimes partners who have gone through similar childhood trauma. For a obly because of that trauma and they become co-dependent.
Have ZERO desire to see Wicked now. But if I ever do, if this movie doesn't MOVE MY FREAKIN SOUL...the way they act...crying, "we've been thru so much with this movie" blah blah blah The way Cynthia FLIPPED over the fan art...c'mon. I swear if i see Wicked it better change my life lol
They have anorexia! That's horrible. Now i definitly do not support this movie. Controling people by telling them who they should be with or how much they weigh is unacceptable. Corrupting the children with that website just tops this disaster cake.
get how the weight is concerning but then being that close shouldn’t be a weird thing unless people make it to be. Yes maybe the tattoos are a bit much but that’s THEIR choice Anyways love this video but all they give off is bestie energy so I don’t see it!💕
About the mirroring personalities thing -- I've been thinking this for a little while now, actually! I think there might be hints of this in her uncanny celebrity impersonations. This includes spot-on vocal impersonations, too. And when I saw Wicked there were some variations in her vocals as G(a)linda, but most of it sounded remarkably close to Kristen Chenowith's recorded version. I think she's talented on her own, but she's also a gifted mimic. Wouldn't shock me if this extends into her personal life. I hope not, for her sake, but it's possible.
Think about this too. Ever see how good Ariana is at mimicking other singers? I think trying on other people's voices and personalities has always been a thing for her. It's kind of crazy when you think about it. Maybe she is really insecure?
7:40 Trauma bonding is when the abused feels like they are bonded to their abuser. This is codependence not trauma bonding. Stop using that term because it's NOT trauma bonding
It makes me beyond nauseated to witness people literally worshiping these two people for acting in a movie, a MOVIE. These are just people, they’ve not done anything to change the world, they haven’t invented anything, they are rich celebrities who starred in a movie. Enough already. I’d rather praise the people that pick up my garbage each week or who grow my food, or make it possible for me to get clean drinking water from a tap in my home. This is waaaay too much.
5:44 i don’t want to diagnose someone but as someone who has borderline personality disorder what you described sounds a lot like BPD. So Ariana might have BPD or some form of neurodivergent disorder.
6:00 Isnt that brand the one that made the weird "sado-maso fetish teddybear with a child" ad? The one with some very questionable stuff in the background of that ad too? So I guess people really don't care about that huh. Oookay. Yuck.
Mmm.. in situations like these, concerning individuals with ED behaviours who spend a lot of time together, they tend to spur each other on - even if it's something that goes unspoken. As though they become one another's "thinspo". One sees the other getting thinner, and they aspire to the same aesthetic and weight loss success, and the dynamic moves backwards and forwards like that. Sometimes they even copy what they observe the other do or make concerted efforts to consume less than what they see the other consume. It almost becomes competitive in some cases, even if the relationship remains amicable.. just interesting that they both lost substantial weight at the same time..
just like with the original Wizard of Oz, I think we'll see a documentary done on this movie's darker secrets sometime in the future. I hope they can heal and rest in 2025
@@subwayunderground6105 and then “coincidentally” there is a “miss print” and the website on the Barbie box for CHILDREN leads to p* websites like…. Seems very suspicious
I get that she was in a bad place before and depressed but there's still no way she can be that thin and physically healthy and I'm sure there's part of her that knows that. I'm worried for the people who think you can be naturally skinny like /that/ type of skinny. It's really prevalent in the K-pop industry and unfortunately, a lot of young fans want to look like the idols that are literally forced to starve themselves, do a bunch of exercise like long dance practices, and even get procedures that burn fat because I guess starving yourself just isn't good enough. I'm not blaming the K-pop idols just to be clear. The companies are at fault.
As someone who doesn’t really care about these two celebrities, but can’t escape all the wicked stuff floating around, their skeletal look is kind of disturbing. And I don’t mean that in a mean way it’s just that they look unwell and I hope them the best.
No guys because the personality change is actually kinda normal when I'm around people like I will change, I swear people blame people for what they also do to.
I always had problems with socializing so i just change how i act because im scared people will judge me so i dont really no my real personality, i act differentnwith my friend to family members.😢
Idk who's the black woman is but i genuinely thought she was in her 50s whereas black people tend to look old when they are very old. And she's just 37, my older sister's age.
honestly i love ariana, trully. but i dont think shes been stable for the past like 8yr, from manchester attack to the death of close ones, breaking off engagement and after actually being married they broke it off and later it turned out he was abusive to her, and after leaving him she went and crushed another marrige, this woman already sold the house she lived in, like the last probably 5 or more she moved in the past few years, its sad but she never trully felt at home in a long time and im not surprised while the whole media bushing her shes searching for it in people shes trully kind and warm hearted, i have NO IDEA what is going on with Cynthia tho lmao, but i wish them both well.
@@Bummerdrummer463 Y’all really need to get over it, this has been so dragged out. Can’t steal a man, he’s not being held against his will, he chose it. Damn near all these celebs cheat, it’s in their JOB DESCRIPTIONS to cheat to film love and s*x scenes. Let it go already.
@@ThebestPerson-ut2hb I got it at first but over a YEAR LATER and we’re STILL bringing this up?? The ex wife moved on faster than these random internet people, it’s so wild lol. I’m so sick of hearing about it.
Maybe some darker hair dye would snap her out of this Glinda roll. We could start a boycott so Ari has to dye her hair chocolate brown before anyone goes to see Wicked. The employers could be caught on camera kneeling before her majesty pleading with her to comply with the public's demands.
@@ThebestPerson-ut2hb Maybe Ariana is just waiting for permission to go back to her natural color? I don't know. I just thinking she has been a long time doing this Glinda thing and the movie was already finished last year. She was telling people not to talk about bodies but presumably with the exception of certain professions. I think that is not good and if people think she should dye her hair brown then I am listening. It is good to express your feelings and have boundaries. Calling me evil. This is just bullying and I can cry if I like about it but it is just making me laugh. Come to think of it Ariana has a song about her hair. The only people who are going to listen to her are the ones who actually care and that just gives free reign for bad actors who are going to ignore her. It is not thought out and the more I think about it the worse idea I realise it is to be telling people just not to talk about peoples bodies.
@@catkin-z8g We should start a boycott so Ari has to dye her hair chocolate brown?? lmao can bro not understand a joke?? (My computer lagged so the emoji didn't show) my comment was legit a joke 💀
First, I think that people are not used to seeing the bonds of friendship between women, which is sad. Women can bond on a VERY deep level because we get to a place where we can share the deepest parts of ourselves. Plus, the tattoos are likely reflective of wanting to hold on to this special moment in their lives where they found a true soulmate and friend, a VERY precious thing in this world. Second, anyone who has ever done a show knows it is GRUELING. You work out 1-2 hours to keep your cardio and strength up, then their is hours of dance rehearsals and performance, and when you are wearing priceless costumes and have to have your make up perfect, plus dancing and running around under hot lights, it is a potent combo. They shot both movies back to back and were basically isolated together for 3 years. I wish people understood women and their relationships better 🤦🏽♀️
For two years, they were together everyday. Being that close makes sense simply because they probably didn't have a large amount of other social interactions. Y'all are totally reaching with the hate about it.
Weight loss, and lack of proper bodily proportions for a woman, unless both of these are still at the growing stage, is horribly wrong! As for Ariana, she may be beautifull, but it is a cold type of beauty that is like a marble statue! Is she even real? Seriously? She could easily pass as a robot, and she has the same kind of personality. Watching Erivo and Ariana interact is CREEPY AS HELL! I'm glad others are noticing this too.
She had to lose 15 pounds for the role, she did Pilates and probably also lost weight from the dance classes for the show, don’t know about Cynthia though, just what I’ve heard
I just think when you're not feeding your body, you're also nor feeding your mind. Im a bulimia survivor and I understand the frailty but it is so dangerous.
Celebrities are 100% judged for their appearance so no surprise if their weight loss is on purpose. It’s sad that SO many people NEVER feel attractive enough.
8:06 Btw why THAT Ari photo tho? Do ppl know what she was going through when that photo was taken? She was on alcohol, antidepressents and overall very unhealthy. Also, she had a lot more botox on her face than she might have now so that's why she looks "full". I think more like pics from 2014 are more relevant. Idk why ppl don't underatand this.
Honestly you can see the rapid weight loss in both of them. And it’s not even hate it’s concern
@@Aqua-ud4wi I absolutely agree 💯
STOP BODY SHAMING
@@tgame43 is not body shaming
You need to understand that the world isnt filled with cupcakes rainbows and unicorns. People are using this 'concern' as a way of body shaming and getting clout. Im not saying all people are shaming them but some are.
They are perfectly fine
10:00 as someone who had an ED and had a best friend with the same problem, we both clung to each other like glue and we subconsciously competed with each other. they're giving that same energy
Drugs do the exact same thing so its definitely one of the two
@@KayJoyythat’s what I was thinking. Doesn’t meth make people super emotional as well?
I think both of them might have BPD. so their urge to mirror themselves to others doesn’t work as it usually does to their friendship, and because of that, they bond with each other in the most unhealthy way possible. with their traumas and insecurities
3:53 I thought “E” for Ethan 😭
ED?
Ari morphs into who she spends time with.. Pete made it the most obvious.
This. Right here! 💯
It’s morphin time
My ex was like that, was really toxic, i did love the blending, but it was to the point my ex formed the whole personality bassed of my personality and likes where i felt like i'm a nobody, and i didn't even felt like i'm in a relationship anymore as the person i loved, started to lose it's personality.
Yeah, and I saw her morphing withing like the first 2 weeks of filming. She instantly changed her complete appearance, she dyed her hair blonde and her brows so that she resembles Cynthia completely and looks bald all the time. She could have worn a wig but no, she literally screenshotted the whole cast and put the pic on her insta and was like "thank you for wearing close you put on my set" i feel like she constantly has to suck up to people she works with so much and do everything in order for them to like her, even being extremely pathetic, that it's scary.
Weird! She starting to look just like the dude she’s dating to me.
There's something weird going on here, and I'm just gonna leave it at that. Everything is always eventually revealed.
It is the cost of promoting anorexia, witchcraft, mental illness, narcissism and drug use to little girls. Many people will suffer because these little brats want to be in the spotlight. Absolutely disgraceful.
No, neither are healthy. People need to stop normalizing and praising unhealthy living.
They're really not that thin especially Cynthia.
I agree with original comment
Americans when someone isn’t fat: 😱
@@Rainjojo bro, not every American though stop generalizing
People are
to afraid they might hurt someone's feelings by speaking truth.
Arianna switches personalities and skin color like a wardrobe. Something's off about her. It's becoming too noticeable.
bpd
I agree with the personality thing, the way she speaks everything about her changes constantly
I'm just surprised that I and everyone else didn't see this coming. Ariana's life has been a train wreck since victorious. She was bound to snap eventually.
@@SarahBurke-y5z A bipolar who was playing a bipolar (Cat from Victorious)
It’s the cost of promoting witchcraft, anorexia, narcissism, mental illness, home wrecking and much more wicked behavior to little girls for her own greed.
As someone who suffers with severe food intolerance …. Starvation causes delirium. It also causes emotional instability and impairs decision making skills. 😢 this is for sure ozempic and starvation. 😢
its definitely giving ozempic or drugs because drugs do the exact same thing
To the op- a very concise and great comment. Thank you x
Not ozempic they are already super skinny, stop humilating them and assuming stuff. I have a ED and I get this think just because of how depressed I am and how hard it is for me to feel hungry or to force myself to eat, even though it is hard for me to see myself this skinny, i just can not stop it. Ppl commenting on it make it only worse.
@@Sara-iy3oz Do you like strawberries or raspberries or pears or maybe tangerines?
@@KayJoyy ozempic is the new celeb ana drug
this is literally insane! because she was so healthy before and now it’s just scary! i get ED an everything but like she was saying about a contest? hell no that’s way too far.
Actually she wasn't. She said so herself in a video she made. Plus healthy and unhealthy looks different for different people
They look amazing
They look beautiful
I think she has been getting skinny from before, since when she was in the voice, but of course it's a lot worse now
pretty sure she has never been healthy
She's beautiful but idk if I can agree that she looks healthy. I hope she really is mentally and physically
🤞🙏
I just hope she is getting better ❤️🩹
that is not healthy
They both look really unhealthy there is no reason to look like that
@@momo_Diaryhealthy looks different for everyone
This is the type of friendship that will eventually crash and burn
This is how every toxic relationship starts. Ariana is literally hypnotized by Cynthia. Under her thrall.
true
Crazy
@@ingridgallagher1029Are you blaming,,?? Wow congratulations 😝
@roksidaisy Darling do your parents know you're online talking to a bunch of strange adults?
Ariana’s voice is beautiful, but she doesn’t seem authentic to me. She changes from race/personality all the time and gets away with it. Can she for once just be real? I hope both of the women are okay because they have lost so much weight… it’s actually scary at this point because they never were this thin! 😢❤
I'm sorry? Since when was race a personality trait??
People change over time, you just gotta deal with it. The ONLY issue you can get from this is the fact that the rapid weight loss can't be healthy
Leave the race changing behind. That's it it's been 3 yrs since she came back to her natural skin tone. Move on.
Ver6 ve
I like her too but I've always noticed something inauthentic about her.. I personally felt she was the wrong person to play Glinda for that reason but I truly do hope she will be ok in time
@@Kalani_Saikoyou can't be serious. People change overtime,but they don't make themselves look like different races. Also, there was a time where Ariana Grande was trying to imitate the way that many black women speak. People also don't change everything about themselves whenever they enter into a new relationship. There's a huge difference between growing as a person and just mirroring every singer partner that you're with. Don't make excuses for her.
Why are they acting like this movie is gonna change the world?? Also i think they have grown a lil to close.. co dependant? They seem inseparable and unhealthy way.
Just watching a mere video of people advertising something has given you all this information,,?? 😝😝
Lezzie Bordens in Auschwitz!
do they? it’s their own niche that they’re passionate about? that’s just you who is testing it like that. no one asked you to pedastalize their project you did, don’t fault ppl for your own doings lol
I was just thinking about this exact situation last night. A genuine friendship is always a blessing, I'm just worried about their health. I'm sure working the hours they did to film this can be grueling and hard on the body. I really hope they are feeling okay.
@@remygirl-mn5kk I totally understand and agree
I'm sure many jobs are far more grueling than acting
This happens in Girls’ schools all the time. Girls who are friends get eating disorders and they kind of cheer each other on to continue doing it.
They aren't girls though.
I heard they were worried about her reputation of not being 'a girl's girl' would hurt the movie... w the spongebob scandal still a hot topic... so they told her to get out there and look like a girl's girl as much as possible before the release. So, who knows what we're looking at... at the end of the day. A friendship, a soulmate, an assignment... or her next love interest... a wicked inspired 'thruple' (sp?) wouldn't even surprise me. I'm so over these people.
I thought this too... it's giving PR assignment
Excellent analysis. Because Ari has never been this clingy to a single woman she’s been related to in any way. I’ve really never seen her with a female close friend at all, always her male love interests. Always for the male gaze. She’s never been a girls girl, PR working overtime and it shows.
@alittlebabyskull Yess this makes a lot of sense I didn’t even think about it..!
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how tf did I not think of this. You just said it all. that’s literally all this ish is lmao
I think it gives cult like energy for sure! But I wonder if she feels like she found someone who really connects with her. Wicked was her dream and being able to film and sing together just made her connected to her.
@@CarterC. Oh most definitely absolutely
It feels more like demonic
Exactly. As much as this is sweet, it’s concerning
Ariana has been way too skinny for a while now
I feel like we're 2 steps away from the hunger games...
@beaniebabyV I was thinking the same things and wondering... why do you think this? I am curious because I am wondering if I am picking up the same signs as others...For example starvation and how expensive food now is, that kind of thing and how they are for this movie being THIS skinny as if that is what is sought after, etc. What else made you think about Hunger Games? thank you in advance I am just so curious.
Every single time I see her face, I think about how she went out of her way to break up the family of a newborn, then sang about how she doesn't care.
Idk why people still worship the ground she walks on, they're just lost to me. No soul behind the eyes type people.
This is her karma.
grown adult men are responsible for their own actions. she didn't hold a gun to his head. smh.
@@ololusername They’re both responsible to different degrees. He betrayed his wife and did something immoral.
Ariana didn’t betray anybody, but she still did something immoral.
@@gracecamaxtli7090 Ariana purposefully meddled with a man who was still attached to another woman and had a baby with her.
@@gracecamaxtli7090exactly.
Omg yessss I lot of people were like their getting a little thin. And why are they always crying in every interview😂
because ariana has been waiting her entire life to play this role and now its finally happening. they have also been waiting and working on wicked for almost 3 years and ari and cynthia have been together 24/7 and have made a great impact on eachother. they are allowed to be emotional
@giawmoon perioddttt
@@tatesbaby Looks more like they rubbed off each other's bad habits and demons on each other rather than them making a great impact on each other, but sure.....
@@tatesbaby
even “friends “ cast never cried that much when they got separated and their show ended
And they have been together for more than 10 years from 1993 to 2004
@@tatesbaby Stop white washing this toxic behavior.
Ariana is gonna leave SpongeBob for Cynthia next you watch
😂 right. I'm waiting...
Omg I'm so waiting for this lmao
Ngl they give me lesbian couple vibes 😭
Omg I was waiting for this comment to show up in the comments section ❤❤❤ I’m thinking the same exact thing.
Yup it's really gross
@@ayamohammed7753yeah get out.
@@ayamohammed7753no it isn’t. It’s part of the LGBTQ community, I’m gay here and I love being who I am.
@@ParkerWoodall-2002💯❤
The thing about the weight loss isn’t that complicated. Actors and models, and so on tend gain EDs. Like Jenette McCurdy. I can only imagine the kind of pressure they were under to uphold something as iconic in the theater kid world besides the relationship drama.
Ariana does strike me as the type of person to have a skinny off with someone but I feel the same way about Cynthia.
For the love of God. These women made a movie, they didn’t cure cancer . 🙄
Right?! Like who the hell even cares! It’s obvious in my opinion, they’re on drugs!
Um they wanted thsse roles since birth its a pretty big deal for them @@JustKatTalking
They need some food BAD their brains are melting. Lol.
I think that’s why they keep crying honestly. (Not from hunger, but because their brains are depleted and can’t regulate emotion as well)
I bet they dating she will leave that sponge Bob dude
Sponge bob 😭🙏
Plot twist!!
She already dumped him?
The ozempic is frying their brains. Omg I had to misspell it because UA-cam kept kicking it off wtf
But it's spelled right ain't it? Ozempic?
Thats how it's spelled
Who told her she was too large?!?!? LET ME AT EM!!!
@@Sharki_V Im right behind you on that my friend ♥️
Who the f said that! Now she’s boney
as someone with a personality disorder where one of the symptoms is 'mirroring' others - it's kinda disheartening to watch this video. I'm going to shed some light, here: mirroring happens when someone lacks a sense of identity. I have a P.D. and my mirroring, unfortunately, stems from trauma - trying to be who those around me wanted me to be to gain praise. BUT. I don't think Ariana has a P.D. because if you think about it.. she's been playing other characters in shows, movies, etc. for how many years? I'm sure it's easy to lose a sense of self and kind of.. turn into your character. so mirroring makes sense. a lot of people see that symptom from others with personality disorders and see it as manipulation, but the truth is (from me, at least), it's like 'trying on' mannerisms, hobbies, etc. to see if it truly fits me and if I click with it. also: mirroring is really common with people who aren't celebrities or people who don't have a mental illness; especially when two people are close with eachother. personalities blend. people blend.
Thank you for this comment
Yeah it's effing creepy no matter how you spin it
Yessss, I agree! And I also really don't get how it relates to their health - like, that is a seperate topic in of itself! And with mirroring, I assume it is probably quite common in actors who do method acting - especially child actors - who, while they are quite literally developing their sense of identity and personality, are playing characters of different people too. So like, of course in some cases that would cause some potential developmental issues! I too suffer from this but in a different way, for example, subconsciously mirroring certain characters that my brain latches onto for whatever reason, but much more frequently and sporadically. Though I have my own very defined personality, I also feel contradictory and opposite to myself - I contain too many defined personalities (DID) - this already causes problems and mirroring characters complicates things, but I digress... that's a completely different topic, but also includes mirroring, for me at least - everyone has their own unique experience, which is the point! What I am trying to say, in terms of Ariana, that it seems quite likely that when she gets really close or attached to people, she would likely mirror them and adopt their mannerisms, way of talking and acting, etc. - which is actually quite common - but it seems that it is rather extreme with her! Anyway, long ramble aside, the human brain is complicated and I think it's silly to define any one thing as 'weird' or 'creepy' - that personally puts a bit of a sour taste in my mouth, especially if something is likely unintentional. Thank youuu, and sorry for the long ramble, haha! ^^
[Disclaimer: I just just wanna add that I am neutral to the matter and don't know much about it or what's going on - I actually don't even know much about Ariana at all nor do I follow her! I am just a person who wanted to share my knowledge and experience with 'mirroring' and would like to encourage others to not be so quick to judge others and label things as 'weird' simply because you don't understand it! Everyone is different, and for some, it's a bit more tricky to navigate the intricacies of identity and the self! I would encourage everyone to always be genuine, however - and stay true to who you are or want to be! :) ]
I've bpd and I'm sure ariana has BPD.
Those who hunger together flock together
IYKYK.🦋
I have always gotten the vibe that Ariana is insecure, she’s not a girls girl since she’ll steal someone’s man and she’ll keep friends she’s not inferior nor jealous of.. the more time goes by my theory makes more sense.
I have the theory that, with both of them being so skinny I feel like they might be having a ED, and also that make them feel so much for each other... Like, both are going through similar journeys and now it might be that both are using this ED as an unhealthy coping mechanism, and they are so "obsessed" with each other because they're seeing themselves as "inspo" of what their brain wants to achieve.
It's common for people who are struggling with am ED to put people who they think is where they want to be in a pedestal, acting like they're the best in the whole world and working their ass off with unhealthy stuff to get into this shape. Maybe that's why they share so many tattoos and "love", because they both want to be the other, but all based on their mental illnesses and unhealthy copying mechanisms, not in actual love and care for the other
Cynthia’s body was gorgeous and definitely is relatable to the American Black woman. Especially a size 6 with her muscle tone and hourglass figure…her body was beautiful. Whoever told her that did not ask America. We not this skinny here!
she pretty but its insanely scary how her health is ruining her slowly
Why did I get so hungry watching this? Lol
Right?😂
Hollywood obsession of thinness is ridiculous All women should be treated fairly and they have to eat their food and health is always important than anything else
In Hollywood health doesn’t matter. The only things that matters are marketability, thinness and attractiveness. Unfortunately.
@ oh so in other words it a dead zone of selfishness that cares about no ones healthy wellbeing
@@roosaasSorry for the cruelty. But when a star dies, Hollywood is even happy. Let's not forget how popular the stuff with pictures of deceased singers and artists is.
@@UwUgworrrl Don’t forget fairness I mean some celebrities passed on and passing is not a blame game
I’m so sick of people using “trauma bond” incorrectly.
A trauma bond is between a victim and abuser. Two people who have experienced trauma in their life, doesn’t create a “trauma bond”.
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I’ve done courses on this ffs.
As someone who has also studied psychology, I’m curious about your thoughts on trauma bonds forming when two people have been through the same significant trauma together. Two victims of circumstance forming a maladaptive bond. I’ve been of the opinion that victim x abuser creates a trauma bond, but two victims of trauma can also become codependent to cope and unhealthily attach to each other. Thoughts?
@@alittlebabyskullyes I was thinking the same thing.... people that go through trauma together as co-victims get trauma bonded. Also sometimes partners who have gone through similar childhood trauma. For a obly because of that trauma and they become co-dependent.
Have ZERO desire to see Wicked now. But if I ever do, if this movie doesn't MOVE MY FREAKIN SOUL...the way they act...crying, "we've been thru so much with this movie" blah blah blah The way Cynthia FLIPPED over the fan art...c'mon. I swear if i see Wicked it better change my life lol
She just posted a message on social media explaining how she felt about it. It was other people who flipped trying to silence her.
It's a nice movie worth watching
It’s an amazing movie. Totally recommend
i wouldnt exactly call it life changing, but in my opinion, it was really good
Why do i feel like this is all a hugeeee PR/Marketing gimmick by the WICKED team??
They have anorexia! That's horrible. Now i definitly do not support this movie. Controling people by telling them who they should be with or how much they weigh is unacceptable. Corrupting the children with that website just tops this disaster cake.
get how the weight is concerning but then being that close shouldn’t be a weird thing unless people make it to be.
Yes maybe the tattoos are a bit much but that’s THEIR choice
Anyways love this video but all they give off is bestie energy so I don’t see it!💕
Right, there just true besties there nothing weird abt it
Ikr. And then istg ppl like to create problems where there isn't and love to make everything weird when it's not. Annoying.
Bestie energy with 10 matching tattoos ??? TEN ??? Lol no that’s creepy lol
@@_Soonli_They're literally killing themselves with anorexia you retard
yess Anna and ppl need to leave them alone
Okay so Cynthia has played Harriet Tubman and Aretha Franklin, but mf Elphaba gets the tears????? 😠
About the mirroring personalities thing -- I've been thinking this for a little while now, actually! I think there might be hints of this in her uncanny celebrity impersonations. This includes spot-on vocal impersonations, too. And when I saw Wicked there were some variations in her vocals as G(a)linda, but most of it sounded remarkably close to Kristen Chenowith's recorded version. I think she's talented on her own, but she's also a gifted mimic. Wouldn't shock me if this extends into her personal life. I hope not, for her sake, but it's possible.
My thoughts exactly!
Think about this too. Ever see how good Ariana is at mimicking other singers? I think trying on other people's voices and personalities has always been a thing for her. It's kind of crazy when you think about it. Maybe she is really insecure?
7:40 Trauma bonding is when the abused feels like they are bonded to their abuser.
This is codependence not trauma bonding. Stop using that term because it's NOT trauma bonding
The Problem with this Situation is the delulu fanbase thinking this is normal
A huge mistake was making all of that merch for movie we were already oversaturated and overwhelmed with a film that wasn't even out.
Why am I watching Anna oop
Right 🙏
Lmao
real
Huh
Why not ? Her videos are interesting in my opinion lol..
It makes me beyond nauseated to witness people literally worshiping these two people for acting in a movie, a MOVIE. These are just people, they’ve not done anything to change the world, they haven’t invented anything, they are rich celebrities who starred in a movie. Enough already. I’d rather praise the people that pick up my garbage each week or who grow my food, or make it possible for me to get clean drinking water from a tap in my home. This is waaaay too much.
Couldn’t agree more!!!
I think its done purposely to make us forget anout the husband stealing
5:44 i don’t want to diagnose someone but as someone who has borderline personality disorder what you described sounds a lot like BPD. So Ariana might have BPD or some form of neurodivergent disorder.
No, it's deeper than bpd.....although maybe that too..... I think she had DID
I think they are ana besties 😢
Yep.
IYKYK🦋😢
They’re gonna be girlfriend & girlfriend 😶
*roommates
For real they may be tob😅😅😅.
Ariana Grande is a narcissist she prolly doesn't have a personality, and is borrowing Cynthia's.
Spot on
It's narcissism. Character trait acquisition. Love bombing, etc etc.
6:00 Isnt that brand the one that made the weird "sado-maso fetish teddybear with a child" ad? The one with some very questionable stuff in the background of that ad too? So I guess people really don't care about that huh. Oookay. Yuck.
Cynthia kinda has a nasty attitude... I hope Ariana doesn't get that one too
@@Gianna_Jean I picked up on that as well
She already does. Celebrity disease is leeching into every big star nowadays. The entitlement speaks for itself.
She been there done that
I just hope both of them are okay😢
they're both weird, their behavior is weird.
Ariana is almost unrecognizable. It’s a little frightening. Someone needs to show her the movie about Karen Carpenter’s life.
I hope Ari isn’t on Ozempic.. but it’s very very clear… 😭😭❤️ It breaks my heart
My thoughts as well 😢😢💔
she was always skinny prior to Ozempic tho. She been knew how to starve.
Their friendship reminds me of Katya Z and Trixie Mattel while their style reminds me of the twins Sugar and Spice.
I can’t believe you let out that both of their current partners were married when they got together
Why not if it's the truth?
@ oh that’s not…..
Mmm.. in situations like these, concerning individuals with ED behaviours who spend a lot of time together, they tend to spur each other on - even if it's something that goes unspoken. As though they become one another's "thinspo". One sees the other getting thinner, and they aspire to the same aesthetic and weight loss success, and the dynamic moves backwards and forwards like that. Sometimes they even copy what they observe the other do or make concerted efforts to consume less than what they see the other consume. It almost becomes competitive in some cases, even if the relationship remains amicable.. just interesting that they both lost substantial weight at the same time..
just like with the original Wizard of Oz, I think we'll see a documentary done on this movie's darker secrets sometime in the future. I hope they can heal and rest in 2025
1:17, me grabbing the leftover popcorn after watching the movie 😅😂
Ok Ariana mentioned Balenziaga and I immediately go “oop….yikes”
WAITING FOR THIS COMMENT. Yesssss same. Why tf would a celebrity or anyone support them?!
@@subwayunderground6105 and then “coincidentally” there is a “miss print” and the website on the Barbie box for CHILDREN leads to p* websites like…. Seems very suspicious
I get that she was in a bad place before and depressed but there's still no way she can be that thin and physically healthy and I'm sure there's part of her that knows that. I'm worried for the people who think you can be naturally skinny like /that/ type of skinny.
It's really prevalent in the K-pop industry and unfortunately, a lot of young fans want to look like the idols that are literally forced to starve themselves, do a bunch of exercise like long dance practices, and even get procedures that burn fat because I guess starving yourself just isn't good enough. I'm not blaming the K-pop idols just to be clear. The companies are at fault.
They look like lovers.
As someone who doesn’t really care about these two celebrities, but can’t escape all the wicked stuff floating around, their skeletal look is kind of disturbing. And I don’t mean that in a mean way it’s just that they look unwell and I hope them the best.
Nothing wrong with holding hands and looking into each other’s eyes. I sometimes look into my best friend’s eyes
Good job mate.. really good
No guys because the personality change is actually kinda normal when I'm around people like I will change, I swear people blame people for what they also do to.
@@pengwenlovespenguins same here
it’s weird when you change everything about yourself not just going with the flow
I always had problems with socializing so i just change how i act because im scared people will judge me so i dont really no my real personality, i act differentnwith my friend to family members.😢
It's weird when you try to look like several races and start using AAVE when you don't normally speak like that.
It's not normal to change your whole personality whenever you date someone
Idk who's the black woman is but i genuinely thought she was in her 50s whereas black people tend to look old when they are very old. And she's just 37, my older sister's age.
I think we all should be worrying about ourselves.
Yes
Exactly. I’m sure Ariana grande doesn’t lose sleep worrying about us. 😑
There relationship sounds like a fanfic someone would make
This oml😭
honestly i love ariana, trully. but i dont think shes been stable for the past like 8yr,
from manchester attack to the death of close ones, breaking off engagement and after actually being married they broke it off and later it turned out he was abusive to her, and after leaving him she went and crushed another marrige, this woman already sold the house she lived in, like the last probably 5 or more she moved in the past few years, its sad but she never trully felt at home in a long time and im not surprised while the whole media bushing her shes searching for it in people
shes trully kind and warm hearted,
i have NO IDEA what is going on with Cynthia tho lmao, but i wish them both well.
Yes it was very kind and warm hearted to steal a husband from a mom with a newborn baby 🤷♀️
And that's nobody's business. People are responsible for their own actions but wrong is wrong, we've all been wrong. So what? It ain't harming you.
@@Bummerdrummer463 Y’all really need to get over it, this has been so dragged out. Can’t steal a man, he’s not being held against his will, he chose it. Damn near all these celebs cheat, it’s in their JOB DESCRIPTIONS to cheat to film love and s*x scenes. Let it go already.
@@TwinsBigLikeTiaexactly, people always blame her an never the MARRIED man who willingly chose to leave his child. 🤦
@@ThebestPerson-ut2hb I got it at first but over a YEAR LATER and we’re STILL bringing this up?? The ex wife moved on faster than these random internet people, it’s so wild lol. I’m so sick of hearing about it.
When you spend 3 years doing something it does kind of morph your personality around it
they are beyond saving
Nobody is
Maybe some darker hair dye would snap her out of this Glinda roll. We could start a boycott so Ari has to dye her hair chocolate brown before anyone goes to see Wicked. The employers could be caught on camera kneeling before her majesty pleading with her to comply with the public's demands.
@@catkin-z8g you’re actually evil wth????
@@ThebestPerson-ut2hb Maybe Ariana is just waiting for permission to go back to her natural color? I don't know. I just thinking she has been a long time doing this Glinda thing and the movie was already finished last year. She was telling people not to talk about bodies but presumably with the exception of certain professions. I think that is not good and if people think she should dye her hair brown then I am listening. It is good to express your feelings and have boundaries. Calling me evil. This is just bullying and I can cry if I like about it but it is just making me laugh. Come to think of it Ariana has a song about her hair. The only people who are going to listen to her are the ones who actually care and that just gives free reign for bad actors who are going to ignore her. It is not thought out and the more I think about it the worse idea I realise it is to be telling people just not to talk about peoples bodies.
@@catkin-z8g We should start a boycott so Ari has to dye her hair chocolate brown?? lmao can bro not understand a joke?? (My computer lagged so the emoji didn't show)
my comment was legit a joke 💀
Glinda and Elpha are barely friends, how is this suddenly "true love"?? These two don't know what a healthy friendship looks like.
I can't even look forward to the movie. I can't watch the PR. It's too much.
The Wickzempic sent me😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ill never watch this movie.
what happens when you sell your soul for fame and fortune
First, I think that people are not used to seeing the bonds of friendship between women, which is sad. Women can bond on a VERY deep level because we get to a place where we can share the deepest parts of ourselves. Plus, the tattoos are likely reflective of wanting to hold on to this special moment in their lives where they found a true soulmate and friend, a VERY precious thing in this world.
Second, anyone who has ever done a show knows it is GRUELING. You work out 1-2 hours to keep your cardio and strength up, then their is hours of dance rehearsals and performance, and when you are wearing priceless costumes and have to have your make up perfect, plus dancing and running around under hot lights, it is a potent combo. They shot both movies back to back and were basically isolated together for 3 years. I wish people understood women and their relationships better 🤦🏽♀️
For two years, they were together everyday. Being that close makes sense simply because they probably didn't have a large amount of other social interactions. Y'all are totally reaching with the hate about it.
Imma say this.. at my smallest I was 112lbs and my doctor told me I was malnourished and it was detrimental to my health
I dont know what your height is but if you were/are over 5'7 112 is underweight
Weight loss, and lack of proper bodily proportions for a woman, unless both of these are still at the growing stage, is horribly wrong! As for Ariana, she may be beautifull, but it is a cold type of beauty that is like a marble statue! Is she even real? Seriously? She could easily pass as a robot, and she has the same kind of personality. Watching Erivo and Ariana interact is CREEPY AS HELL! I'm glad others are noticing this too.
Did anyone else notice the cut in 15:39
Yeah I saw that too…but why ? 🤔
@@TRVP__QU33N probably an editing mistake
Yeah
Also in 20:38
The more I see these clips the more I don't want to watch that movie
I'm not a villain, but I am intrigued to see society's inevitable post Ozempic crash and burn.
No one is buggin Ryan Reynolds and Huge Jackman for their bromance... bless these ladies and I pray they live happy and healthy lives
Stress can be a huge factor in losing so much weight
indeed
It can be but this is really reading as anorexia. Coming from someone who's battled with it twice.
It reminds me of when you make a new friend as a child, maybe they're healing they’re inner child together
She had to lose 15 pounds for the role, she did Pilates and probably also lost weight from the dance classes for the show, don’t know about Cynthia though, just what I’ve heard
I just think when you're not feeding your body, you're also nor feeding your mind. Im a bulimia survivor and I understand the frailty but it is so dangerous.
Celebrities are 100% judged for their appearance so no surprise if their weight loss is on purpose. It’s sad that SO many people NEVER feel attractive enough.
I am wondering what happened in that production 😢
"You are who you hang around" they say, but I didn't know they were talking about looks too😆
i feel like anna oop was the one girl in highschool that u could go to just to hear the new drama
Anna oop isn't a real person.
8:06 Btw why THAT Ari photo tho? Do ppl know what she was going through when that photo was taken? She was on alcohol, antidepressents and overall very unhealthy. Also, she had a lot more botox on her face than she might have now so that's why she looks "full". I think more like pics from 2014 are more relevant. Idk why ppl don't underatand this.
She looks way more unhealthy now. Do you like the new gaunt soul less eyes look