I didn’t know ratchets needed to rest so now I know mine work so well .they are in great shape as they sleep way more than work , I will keep the lights off so there always ready for every day"........ ha
Same here scott2228....... I use Tekton, Matco, Mac, Snap-on...... But I always like seeing how the lower priced tools perform. I'll use ANY tool as long as it performs appropriately and has good ergonomics.
I bought that Hart set a while back so that I would have every size I could ever need. After a while, I started feeling sick about buying a budget brand. I used a socket to drive a concrete anchor and it held up just fine, and I started feeling better about the purchase. This review makes me feel so much better. I will never use a cheater bar, so now I know that the ratchets and sockets will hold up perfectly well for my weekend warrior needs. Thanks for doing this!
Honestly don't feel bad about buying budget tools. It's all about what your using it for. If you're doing little tasks around the house, then budget tools are fine. If you're a mechanic, stay away from budget tools. I buy Harbour Freight tools for home which are cheap tools, but for work I buy higher end tools. It all depends on what you need the tool for.
@@08HR350zheads up its limited lifetime so I'd suggest saving RECIPT to the Walmart app ( so u don't loose it) when it comes down to warrenty I belive they use receipts for the limited stuff
My take away is they all perform very well pass a realistic amount torque. Don't abuse them and they will last. Things like smoothness of operation, Easy to read, and what is actually in the assortment would be your real tie breakers
I still have most of my Stanley tools, I bought a big kit years ago and work in automotive full time, if the quality is still good I think theyre good tools, I make a living using them along with Mastercraft and Husky as well. If you use almost any kind of ratchet correctly not abusing it you won't break it.
Nice comparison.. good to see they are decently built. And great I'd you need a set of tools in a hurry. Harbor Freight sells a really nice 301 mechanic tool set. SKU 63464, 63457 that you can get with a coupon for a $150 sometimes.. the thing that I found with that particular kit is it has far more useful tools in it than a lot of these kits.
I thought this test and demonstration was great. As you said, and I hope that people don't treat ANY of their tools like this. But the real test would be to see how they each hold up to common constant use over a given period of time. I personally think that we sometimes get too caught up in brand names.
I'm really surprised that both of the kits were over $99 since Craftsman and Kobalt are 99 and for more pieces in the kit? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and videos, Rodney P.S. I still cringe a little when you take em to failure😛😁😍😀 I have to say I like the color combo of the Hart 20v line.
No kidding, I figured out that Walmart learned long ago that they don't have to be the cheapest anymore on every single thing... the consumer assumption that they're the cheapest is enough to trigger the purchase in enough cases to sell the inventory target...
@@jakeguard9099 overall I'm doing alright. Looking forward to a hip replacement surgery 3 to 6 months. I have to lose about 30 pounds before the VA will pay for it. I'm trying to get a woodworking club started here in Branson Mo for other Veterans like myself. Hard to do on a fixed income. I believe that God will bless us when the time is right !!! Thanks for asking Jake.
...yes, I agree...$150.00 ish seems a little much to pay for off-brand China tools at Walmart, even if there are quite a few "pieces" in it..., especially with the questionable/unknown warranty policy...I would balk...there are better options available, IMHO...if I was in a pinch for a tool and Walmart was all that was available, I would buy as little as I could get by with, not a big arse set like that....
I called to hart customer support. And if you break a socket . In order to have it replaced by hart . You have to have a receipt . . Unlike any other company . Harbor freight you don’t need a receipt to get replaced . Just to inform everyone before purchasing
Just a week ago Lowes replaced a many years old ratchet no questions asked and no receipt from as I said years ago, it was a Craftsman. NO questions, not even what happened.
@@Mikey-ym6ok ..look again...some of it is very good...some of it is not so good..(I wouldn't buy any of their cordless power tools)..but it's getting better...definitely better than Walmart...Walmart is NOT a tool store, and they do not "get" what it takes to be a tool store...
from what i see any of these sets will be great because well breaker bars are for the hard stuff not a ratchet, the right tool for the right job and the cheapest tool set will last
Some of these tool guys on YT say some of these brands break just doing DIY around home then I see this guy use a pipe in order to break even the 3/8 inch on a cheap brand and I wonder WTF these guys are doing to break this stuff just around the house, I have never broken a tool and have abused the hell out of some stuff.
To add to that, Mac Tools owns Stanley. Mac is junk IMO, only because they are basically selling Stanley Tools at the Snap-On Price. I use Hart Tools at home. LOVE all they’re Cordless Tools. I’m a Professional Technician during the day and use strictly Snap-On. Hart Tools have exceeded my expectations for home use and have a lot of them at home.
Entertaining video. Just a suggestion, why don't you do a video testing torx bit sockets to failure (especially the smaller sizes) I have snapped a few of those in the past just from normal use. (I think just about everyone's broke a few of those) I'd be curious to see which ones hold up best and I'd like to know which one break easiest . . . . now that would be a freakin awesome video that would have some good meaningful buying information.
Nice comparison. However at the price, these don't seem to be "discount" socket sets as they cost as much or more as a Husky or Kobalt, even some of the newer Craftsman, sets. However, having that 24 hour availability at Wal-mart I could see if you needed it.
Michael Your also paying for those cases. I have a friend who just got a craftsman set and it just has your standard book type case. I have that Stanley set. And the drawers are nice. Stanley also has a non drawer set, i believe its a 217 set or something, and its about 20/30 bucks cheaper.
As far as price, it's not meant to be the cheapest Walmart item, I would say it's meant to compete with Harbor freight's "Bauer" (and possibly Hercules) line. Walmarts cheapest tool line is the "Hyper tough ". The company who makes these "Hart" tools also makes Milwaukee, AEG, and Ryobi.
Also ment to add Walmart is putting all there Stanley & black & decker out on clearance due to the hart take over & the home depot's putting all there Hart tools on clearance I snagged the crescent 15in adjustable wrench normally almost $38 everywhere from Walmart to the depot for $15 & the Hart mini pry bars round with rubber coated center under $9 so allots going on with most of there clearance items...
i bought a similar set from stanley about 4 years ago to use at work as i needed some starter tools and had very little money, and bang for buck the stanley sockets are awesome some of the most used sockets (were talking being used thousands of times) are still holding up great........and this was on impact tools! the ratchets were awful and so were the bits and allen keys. i gave those away because they were so bad
I do want to point out that tooth count does play into the strength of a rachet so I would expect the hart to fail first but honestly I think that most those tool kit tools are all just about the exact same regardless if you get craftsman,husky,kobalt,Stanley, hart,etc. And I betting if you got two more of the the exact same kits you would probably get different results. My takeaway from this video is pick the kit that more tools that are useful to you .someone mentioned craftsman and kobolt kits and sayed there only 99 buck for mor prices but if in a 200 + piece kit half the tools are useless to you then and th 150 dollar set all the tools are useful for you then it is a better value when I was look at tool kits last I almost got the craftsman then realized that like 70 pieces were driver bits and I would never use any of those.
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Driver bits are the greatest scam to drive up part counts.
pretty neat test and results , With Stanley and those sold at Walmart its a matter of timing because it appears that they constantly are changing factories in different parts of the World who can manufacture the quality and price range the retailer needs them to be at i purchased a 1/4” set from Walmart about 10 years ago and its been a great ratchet set ! i found out that it just so happened to be the sane factory in China that built Snap On branded tools at that time frame Although i never tested them to failure like you do in the video i will add that the set i own has been used often with pretty good results
Everyone's talking about the ratchets and here I am amazed at the fact that the spline drive socket held up to 235lb ft. without slipping. (15:00) I seriously thought the spline would be the first to go.
With that being said, you should do a video on different spline sockets and wrenches. They have such a bad reputation for rounding off fasteners, but that stanley socket stood up better than the ratchet. Not all are created equal, and a video testing them should at least point us in the right direction.
Mountain spline wrenches are tighter than any other type of wrench. No play. Nothing will b rounded unless using a seriously super cheap fastener. In which case anything is possible
sweet vid man, maybe try to slide the cheater bar toward the head of the ratchet to keep the handle from bending im curious what their failing points are.
Only issue I saw was you put the hart through more pressure and tests before the final break. The Pittsburgh one you did it right away. You also didn’t put the Stanley through as much as the hart. I love my Stanley set but to make it fair you should do the exact same test pulls, then a final snap test
Great Video~fom 4 yrs ago! Nothing like torturing testing tools, especially tools you can go pickup the same day if needs, good to see how some will hold up or not.
Really boils down to with cheap tools to feel and what’s aesthetically pleasing to you. Especially because the Stanley tools that I have our lifetime warranty so if I break it it doesn’t matter anyway I just get a new one. The Stanley ProTools that come in the slim box are the ones I loveAnd the price is great.
I got the hart set and various hart tools... Ive done alternator changes, full exhaust from headers back, serpentine belt, wheels, oil, etc and all jave worked great and still holding up no problem
The part they don't show here is that the screws literaly fall out of the Stanley ratchets. Then the head falls apart. I tried tightening them but the head of the ratchet is literaly made so you can't. The ratchet won't even spin long before the screws are even tight. It literaly took a hour to lock tite the screws in one of mine. Mostly because you have to keep messing with the tension on the screws to get it to work right. So no matter if there stronger or not Stanley ratchets are junk. If you don't beleive me get a get a tourqs bit and tighten the screws. It won't turn guaranteed. The plate will actually be bent bowed when you take it off afterwords.
I sheared off the anvil on my craftsman 1/4 ratchet by hand. I don’t think that craftsman or either of these ratchets are necessarily bad especially for the price.
A video on torx bit sockets would be the ultimate for me. I have broke plenty and want to know which is the best. I'm debating getting matco ones or just stick with some harbor freight ones.
I watched a video where the snap-on 1/4" ratchet was destroyed at 72lbs, so that menas that Harbor Freight's Pittsburgh Pro bested, Stanley, Snap-on and Hart. Wow, just wow.
Stanley inners are...soft. The claw on my 1/4 and 3/8 fall out of detent, am planning to get my free replacements. Since many brands, including cheap brands, offer Life Time Warranty, I’m just getting cheap stuff since I only turn a wrench 5 or 6 times a year.
Dont let Home Depot see these Hart and Pittsburgh tool tests!! They might buy them off of walmart and HF and sell them themselves at 3x the price!! 😂😂😂
Hart is owned by TTI who makes Ryobi, under the skin Hart power tools are almost identical to Hart, one tool even had interchangeable parts, lol. Walmart just paid TTI for the Hart line to be their House Brand like Ryobi and Ridgid are for HD.
Pretty close. Both are Chinese made, but Hart is Chinese owned. I would prefer profits to go back to the US (Stanley). FYI, Stanley Black & Decker is investing in a new hand tool factory in Texas for their Craftsman line, so by end of 2020, ratchets/sockets may actually be made in USA again.
also the hyper tough brand from Walmart is very good, I bought a half inch ratchet to loosen the nut of the axel of the car that was very rusty and very tight, that is why it is very good it has very good force torque
I have that Stanley kit. Its been great to me. Handles working on my car and the house perfectly. I got it on rollback with my discount. I think i paid like 65/70 or something. I also bought some handtools from hart this past holiday. The impact bit set and some screw drivers. And they feel much nicer and stronger than the stanley ones i have. Im looking forward to how the hart brand evolves.
Just curious how your Stanley kit is holding up? Anything break? I bought the same kit a few days ago and have been watching videos on it to make sure I can get a good few years out of the kit. Thanks!
@@starboywrld nothings broken. And i use it as a bake up set now. But worked good for the year or so i used it. I wouldn’t use it to torque a bolt to like 200ft lbs. but its a good set for everyday uses
I love the box my husband turned his noes up at the set but all the spots click the tools in and make them all secure. I love that as I'm always the gopher seems like. A great case. I'd buy it alone...
Also can you test the pittsburg pro extending 1/2inch drive ? I got one and it's been good but I feel like the failure point is the extended part which is fairly thin and hollow
I would like to see 4 or 5 of the exact same ratchets tested to failure to see if they all fail close to the same torque or if each of these ratchets are just case by case.
Really need to break a large sample of each to get real numbers.. these cheap forgings will have anomalies that will cause breakage at scattered values...
I use craftsman tools daily! The old and new get the job done. I haven't had to trade them in at Lowe's yet, but Sears always switched it over without question. Now if Lowe's does their warranty different, I may change brands.
There are so many different Craftsman styles, but I have the Milwaukee here ua-cam.com/video/2F1RbYwY-Cw/v-deo.html And Craftsman here ua-cam.com/video/2F1RbYwY-Cw/v-deo.html and the older rectangle craftsman tucked inside this video ua-cam.com/video/2F1RbYwY-Cw/v-deo.html
I had to buy a hart socket set from walmart to change a door latch one day in the parking lot. Had to take it right back in, the teeth were stripped new in the box. The second one is doing ok. But like my gear wrench, it doesn't feel like it would hold up like a snap-on.
I'm surprised; I had a Stanley set in my truck (older set non-quick release ratchet, regular 12 pt sockets) and I managed to break both 1/4" & 3/8 ratchet at least twice in normal use. I gave the set away and my friend replaced the ratchets with Tekton ones and he's very happy with it. From you video it appears Stanley has improved the ratchets greatly, though I'm not a fan of spline drive sockets. I might consider either set as a set to keep in the truck.
I have this same set since 2019 as an oil field mechanic and not a single socket or wrench has failed me yet. And those sockets I used on half inch mid torques when I need thinner profile sockets and they still work great.
My first kit was a smaller stanley. I still have a 1/4 inch ratchet six years later. Three of which I worked in the industry for the 3/8s worked well but the backing plate would strip and the screws that hold em together would fall out and make it useless
While i find this interesting the sample size of one tool per band means it's meaningless really they all met the standard for what they were intended to do.I've only broken the anvil on one tool and it was a1/2 inch breaker bar with a 4 foot cheater on it I was jumping on it to loosen a axle nut took it back to the auto parts store were I bought it and they gave me a new one.I have bent a cheap 1/2 ratchet wrench i still have it ,and it still works.
Definitely not waste of time. It tests the tensile strength of material and how the teeth and gear hold up. I have a few of the craftsman ratchet that the internal parts fail and won't lock, thinking about going to sear but also don't like their handle design and thinking about getting other brand. Ratchet more likely to be broken of the internal parts (spring, teeth and gear) from worn out over time.
I've bought the black Stanley's and they disassembled themselves in my hands. My previous regular chrome Stanley set would switch between forward and backwards randomly while using it. Extremely disappointed and I will never by stanley, or anything stanley black and decker, if I have a choice. I have a hart set and the switch lever is solid and has no intentions of self destruction. Much more pleased
Awesome video! Just wanna show you love for breaking your own tools for our enjoyment! Will subscribe for that reason alone! Keep it up! I love tool reviews!
Why you say when? Are they planning to? Most people moved on to something else, i bought a 450pc tool set made in china, i was so dissapointed i sold it right away and bought the pittsburgh 225pc set im really happy with it, i cant believe i paid over 200 for the craftsman and all it had was a whole bunch of bits.
I have the Stanley set they are all 6 point sockets I’ve had it for years and it’s a great set I work in a shop and still haven’t broken one of the sockets I’ve lost some 10’s and 12’s but not broken any
1/4 ratchets are rated for like 3,4 - 18 ft/lbs. why would anyone give a care about one breaking at 50 ft/lbs -v- 75 ft/lbs.? 3/8'' rate from around 10-80 ft/lbs and 1/2'' 30 - 150, 200 ft/lbs or so. my point is any of these do the job they are designed for. if you have to use a cheater bar the tool is not being used for its intended purpose.
That looks more like the regular Pittsburgh ratchet that comes in every set they sell the professional I thought was slimmer & the release button was lower? I picked up a small 3/8th hard set in a small blue & white box & there 3/8th & 1/2in extendable ratchets that once extended ya wont need a cheater bar & at 90t there real heavy duty but you gotta check out there self adjusting hart channel locks 8" or 10" they have a real good feel plus are super this & get into places normal channel locks wouldn't fit..but last but not least there hart 1" chisel is unbelievable made out of a single piece of steel & for under $10 ok man keep up the great video's
I got the hyper tough set it was 90% off ...I wonder if it would hold up to these two.? I really like the look of the Hart tools...the fit and finish of there cordless need to be improved opon... especially for the price point they are at.
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HyperTough is the cheapest of the cheap and not comparable, but if youre just a weekend warrior it usually doesnt matter.
Went to WalMart today and all the Stanley tools were replaced/rebranded Hart. Hart is just Stanley tools rebranded in WalMart now. Absolutely all Stanley or most is now taken by Hart brand at my NJ and PA, NY area stores.
Very cool video. Super interesting. I just don't stress most of my tools to any sorts of limits like these. Basic, general household and (home) shop type use. But when out buying tools, it's cool to know what you're looking at. I've never seen anything quite like this. Good vid.
Push those harbor freight ratchets back and forth and hold that tension for length like you did the others… I can tell you definitely favor harbor. Takin it easy on them lol ;)
Think I have a Stanley kit and have had no issues and think this is a weird test as many of those should never be used to the torques you are putting them thru in normal use most times you would be using a breaker bar or a electric ratchet to undo a bolt that tight.
How has your Stanley kit held up? Are the ratchets still working good? Got one a few days ago and seeing if I should return it or not. Seems fine so far to me.
@@starboywrld Yeah still good they are good cheap option if starting out. I bought mine maybe 3-4 yrs ago I think and ratchet is still fine. But saying that I don’t use them every single day they get minimal use mostly just used to do an oil change on my motorbike.
@@izaak1509 Sounds good. Thanks for your reply. Yeah for starter tools they seem solid. Hoping to upgrade them in a few years time but for working on my car at home, they should be good.
I didn’t know ratchets needed to rest so now I know mine work so well .they are in great shape as they sleep way more than work , I will keep the lights off so there always ready for every day"........ ha
I’m 3/4’s into watching this and thought.... why am I watching this? I have plenty of great ratchets. Great video.
I appreciate you watching and commenting. Thanks for keeping it positive👍
@@ClientGraphics can you do a video on the hart tool box now
Im digging the box.
Same here scott2228....... I use Tekton, Matco, Mac, Snap-on...... But I always like seeing how the lower priced tools perform. I'll use ANY tool as long as it performs appropriately and has good ergonomics.
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It's what us guys do. I'm watching and I'm not in the tool market either!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤟😷
I bought that Hart set a while back so that I would have every size I could ever need. After a while, I started feeling sick about buying a budget brand. I used a socket to drive a concrete anchor and it held up just fine, and I started feeling better about the purchase. This review makes me feel so much better. I will never use a cheater bar, so now I know that the ratchets and sockets will hold up perfectly well for my weekend warrior needs. Thanks for doing this!
Honestly don't feel bad about buying budget tools. It's all about what your using it for. If you're doing little tasks around the house, then budget tools are fine. If you're a mechanic, stay away from budget tools. I buy Harbour Freight tools for home which are cheap tools, but for work I buy higher end tools. It all depends on what you need the tool for.
The harts have a lifetime warranty to and I just bought the 270 hart set for 98 bucks for Black Friday. Also Hart is owned by Milwaukee/Ryobi
@@08HR350zheads up its limited lifetime so I'd suggest saving RECIPT to the Walmart app ( so u don't loose it) when it comes down to warrenty I belive they use receipts for the limited stuff
Harts actually owned by the same people who own Milwaukee so they’re not that bad
My take away is they all perform very well pass a realistic amount torque. Don't abuse them and they will last. Things like smoothness of operation, Easy to read, and what is actually in the assortment would be your real tie breakers
At the Stanley 1/2" handle being bent. Whenever a cheater bar is used the bar is usually up by the head.
I still have most of my Stanley tools, I bought a big kit years ago and work in automotive full time, if the quality is still good I think theyre good tools, I make a living using them along with Mastercraft and Husky as well. If you use almost any kind of ratchet correctly not abusing it you won't break it.
Nice comparison.. good to see they are decently built. And great I'd you need a set of tools in a hurry.
Harbor Freight sells a really nice 301 mechanic tool set. SKU 63464, 63457
that you can get with a coupon for a $150 sometimes..
the thing that I found with that particular kit is it has far more useful tools in it than a lot of these kits.
I thought this test and demonstration was great. As you said, and I hope that people don't treat ANY of their tools like this. But the real test would be to see how they each hold up to common constant use over a given period of time. I personally think that we sometimes get too caught up in brand names.
Unfortunately we do. It's sad... I'm the same way..when it comes to tools anyway..most other things Idc.
@@Awesum The HART warranty is trash though, no receipt means no warranty. You better hold onto that thing forever or you're SOL.
@@theindooroutdoorsman That sucks to hear. I rarely hold onto receipts for more than a month before the clutter starts to bother me
@@travisvanalst4698 Pictures. Keep pictures of receipts on a Google Drive folder.
I'm really surprised that both of the kits were over $99 since Craftsman and Kobalt are 99 and for more pieces in the kit? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and videos, Rodney
P.S. I still cringe a little when you take em to failure😛😁😍😀 I have to say I like the color combo of the Hart 20v line.
No kidding, I figured out that Walmart learned long ago that they don't have to be the cheapest anymore on every single thing... the consumer assumption that they're the cheapest is enough to trigger the purchase in enough cases to sell the inventory target...
I see you on a the tool videos sir! How you holding up?
@@jakeguard9099 overall I'm doing alright. Looking forward to a hip replacement surgery 3 to 6 months. I have to lose about 30 pounds before the VA will pay for it. I'm trying to get a woodworking club started here in Branson Mo for other Veterans like myself. Hard to do on a fixed income. I believe that God will bless us when the time is right !!! Thanks for asking Jake.
@@rodw amen!
...yes, I agree...$150.00 ish seems a little much to pay for off-brand China tools at Walmart, even if there are quite a few "pieces" in it..., especially with the questionable/unknown warranty policy...I would balk...there are better options available, IMHO...if I was in a pinch for a tool and Walmart was all that was available, I would buy as little as I could get by with, not a big arse set like that....
I called to hart customer support. And if you break a socket . In order to have it replaced by hart . You have to have a receipt . . Unlike any other company . Harbor freight you don’t need a receipt to get replaced . Just to inform everyone before purchasing
That's weird
They replaced my entire rotary tool no real questions asked except for what was wrong with it
Just a week ago Lowes replaced a many years old ratchet no questions asked and no receipt from as I said years ago, it was a Craftsman. NO questions, not even what happened.
...Yes....typical Walmart policy on tools...I'll buy my (cheaper) tools at Harbor Freight, not Walmart....
@@dyer2cycle harbor freight takes is tool back no problem becuase returns are half their business. HF is absolute garbage. Trash.
@@Mikey-ym6ok ..look again...some of it is very good...some of it is not so good..(I wouldn't buy any of their cordless power tools)..but it's getting better...definitely better than Walmart...Walmart is NOT a tool store, and they do not "get" what it takes to be a tool store...
I dont think anyone could complain about any of them. Im impressed honestly. Good videos sir
from what i see any of these sets will be great because well breaker bars are for the hard stuff not a ratchet, the right tool for the right job and the cheapest tool set will last
Some of these tool guys on YT say some of these brands break just doing DIY around home then I see this guy use a pipe in order to break even the 3/8 inch on a cheap brand and I wonder WTF these guys are doing to break this stuff just around the house, I have never broken a tool and have abused the hell out of some stuff.
Well, looks like at the end of the day, both brands will do the job they we designed to do, and it comes down to cost and pride.
To add to that, Mac Tools owns Stanley. Mac is junk IMO, only because they are basically selling Stanley Tools at the Snap-On Price. I use Hart Tools at home. LOVE all they’re Cordless Tools. I’m a Professional Technician during the day and use strictly Snap-On. Hart Tools have exceeded my expectations for home use and have a lot of them at home.
Mainly pride, so everyone will just keep their Milwaukee workhorses.
@@dgperforms1 Stanley owns Mac not the other way along with many other brands.
Entertaining video. Just a suggestion, why don't you do a video testing torx bit sockets to failure (especially the smaller sizes) I have snapped a few of those in the past just from normal use. (I think just about everyone's broke a few of those) I'd be curious to see which ones hold up best and I'd like to know which one break easiest . . . . now that would be a freakin awesome video that would have some good meaningful buying information.
I’m impressed with the fact the anvils are breaking instead of the gears Or paws
You should do a test on amazon basics tool set
We should that actually sounds like a good idea 💡
Nice comparison. However at the price, these don't seem to be "discount" socket sets as they cost as much or more as a Husky or Kobalt, even some of the newer Craftsman, sets. However, having that 24 hour availability at Wal-mart I could see if you needed it.
Michael Your also paying for those cases. I have a friend who just got a craftsman set and it just has your standard book type case. I have that Stanley set. And the drawers are nice. Stanley also has a non drawer set, i believe its a 217 set or something, and its about 20/30 bucks cheaper.
As far as price, it's not meant to be the cheapest Walmart item, I would say it's meant to compete with Harbor freight's "Bauer" (and possibly Hercules) line. Walmarts cheapest tool line is the "Hyper tough ".
The company who makes these "Hart" tools also makes Milwaukee, AEG, and Ryobi.
Also ment to add Walmart is putting all there Stanley & black & decker out on clearance due to the hart take over & the home depot's putting all there Hart tools on clearance I snagged the crescent 15in adjustable wrench normally almost $38 everywhere from Walmart to the depot for $15 & the Hart mini pry bars round with rubber coated center under $9 so allots going on with most of there clearance items...
I didnt know hand tools could have hart failure
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Tell me you didn't say that.
i bought a similar set from stanley about 4 years ago to use at work as i needed some starter tools and had very little money, and bang for buck the stanley sockets are awesome some of the most used sockets (were talking being used thousands of times) are still holding up great........and this was on impact tools! the ratchets were awful and so were the bits and allen keys. i gave those away because they were so bad
Where are you working that nobody has said anything about you running chrome sockets on impacts? Lol hope you have good safety glasses.
Best video on UA-cam comparing Stanley and the new Hart line. Great job!
I do want to point out that tooth count does play into the strength of a rachet so I would expect the hart to fail first but honestly I think that most those tool kit tools are all just about the exact same regardless if you get craftsman,husky,kobalt,Stanley, hart,etc. And I betting if you got two more of the the exact same kits you would probably get different results. My takeaway from this video is pick the kit that more tools that are useful to you .someone mentioned craftsman and kobolt kits and sayed there only 99 buck for mor prices but if in a 200 + piece kit half the tools are useless to you then and th 150 dollar set all the tools are useful for you then it is a better value when I was look at tool kits last I almost got the craftsman then realized that like 70 pieces were driver bits and I would never use any of those.
Driver bits are the greatest scam to drive up part counts.
pretty neat test and results , With Stanley and those sold at Walmart its a matter of timing because it appears that they constantly are changing factories in different parts of the World who can manufacture the quality and price range the retailer needs them to be at i purchased a 1/4” set from Walmart about 10 years ago and its been a great ratchet set ! i found out that it just so happened to be the sane factory in China that built Snap On branded tools at that time frame Although i never tested them to failure like you do in the video i will add that the set i own has been used often with pretty good results
Great video! Been involved in actual calibration myself. I appreciate your detail and representation.
Keep up the great work...
I remember lowes used to carry some gimikie looking hart products like a 2 million and one screw driver, and other junk like that.
Everyone's talking about the ratchets and here I am amazed at the fact that the spline drive socket held up to 235lb ft. without slipping. (15:00)
I seriously thought the spline would be the first to go.
With that being said, you should do a video on different spline sockets and wrenches. They have such a bad reputation for rounding off fasteners, but that stanley socket stood up better than the ratchet. Not all are created equal, and a video testing them should at least point us in the right direction.
@@NutsandBoltsAuto THIS ^^^^
Mountain spline wrenches are tighter than any other type of wrench. No play. Nothing will b rounded unless using a seriously super cheap fastener. In which case anything is possible
Loved my Stanley black chrome set, still have the ratchets and still work great even when breaking loose crank pulley and subframe bolts with them.
Kept thinking the pipe was gonna smash my teeth in, am I the only one? Lol 😁🤕
Hahaha!
No because I was going to be looking the other way when I pulled on it.
@@jeffstanley4593 righton
I do all the time I stand on the bar some times🤣🤣
Both sets did better than I expected. Buy the one on sale! I already have 10 year old Craftsman and newer Gearwrench ratchets I'm happy with.
sweet vid man, maybe try to slide the cheater bar toward the head of the ratchet to keep the handle from bending im curious what their failing points are.
Only issue I saw was you put the hart through more pressure and tests before the final break. The Pittsburgh one you did it right away. You also didn’t put the Stanley through as much as the hart. I love my Stanley set but to make it fair you should do the exact same test pulls, then a final snap test
That Hart tool set is currently $98 at Walmart!!!
Great Video~fom 4 yrs ago! Nothing like torturing testing tools, especially tools you can go pickup the same day if needs, good to see how some will hold up or not.
Really boils down to with cheap tools to feel and what’s aesthetically pleasing to you. Especially because the Stanley tools that I have our lifetime warranty so if I break it it doesn’t matter anyway I just get a new one. The Stanley ProTools that come in the slim box are the ones I loveAnd the price is great.
I got the hart set and various hart tools... Ive done alternator changes, full exhaust from headers back, serpentine belt, wheels, oil, etc and all jave worked great and still holding up no problem
The part they don't show here is that the screws literaly fall out of the Stanley ratchets. Then the head falls apart. I tried tightening them but the head of the ratchet is literaly made so you can't. The ratchet won't even spin long before the screws are even tight. It literaly took a hour to lock tite the screws in one of mine. Mostly because you have to keep messing with the tension on the screws to get it to work right. So no matter if there stronger or not Stanley ratchets are junk. If you don't beleive me get a get a tourqs bit and tighten the screws. It won't turn guaranteed. The plate will actually be bent bowed when you take it off afterwords.
I sheared off the anvil on my craftsman 1/4 ratchet by hand. I don’t think that craftsman or either of these ratchets are necessarily bad especially for the price.
A video on torx bit sockets would be the ultimate for me. I have broke plenty and want to know which is the best. I'm debating getting matco ones or just stick with some harbor freight ones.
I watched a video where the snap-on 1/4" ratchet was destroyed at 72lbs, so that menas that Harbor Freight's Pittsburgh Pro bested, Stanley, Snap-on and Hart. Wow, just wow.
Stanley inners are...soft. The claw on my 1/4 and 3/8 fall out of detent, am planning to get my free replacements. Since many brands, including cheap brands, offer Life Time Warranty, I’m just getting cheap stuff since I only turn a wrench 5 or 6 times a year.
Dont let Home Depot see these Hart and Pittsburgh tool tests!! They might buy them off of walmart and HF and sell them themselves at 3x the price!! 😂😂😂
Hart is owned by TTI who makes Ryobi, under the skin Hart power tools are almost identical to Hart, one tool even had interchangeable parts, lol. Walmart just paid TTI for the Hart line to be their House Brand like Ryobi and Ridgid are for HD.
That's why you use the right tools for the right applications.... some people misuse tools and blame the manufacturer when the tools fail....
I would like to see taking rachets straight to failure...when new..great vid👍
Pretty close. Both are Chinese made, but Hart is Chinese owned. I would prefer profits to go back to the US (Stanley). FYI, Stanley Black & Decker is investing in a new hand tool factory in Texas for their Craftsman line, so by end of 2020, ratchets/sockets may actually be made in USA again.
Looks similar to old Tekton and Kobalt. Probably from same factory.
It really does. That is why I threw in the Pittsburg Pro comparison.
The Hart case is where all the money is. Looks nice.
The Stanley case is nice too.
I will choose neither, Thanks Again, Chris!
also the hyper tough brand from Walmart is very good, I bought a half inch ratchet to loosen the nut of the axel of the car that was very rusty and very tight, that is why it is very good it has very good force torque
Bought a stanely 150 somethihng piece set over a decade ago and I still use it. Stays in the back of my pickup.
Why arent you applying counter torque to keep shearing forces down?
At my Walmart the Hart set was $98.
Walmart announced they are expanding the home and garden dept. To include building materials and appliances.
The old school black chrome ratchets are very reliable. Still have mine when I bought them at Wal-Mart in 2016
I have that Stanley kit. Its been great to me. Handles working on my car and the house perfectly. I got it on rollback with my discount. I think i paid like 65/70 or something. I also bought some handtools from hart this past holiday. The impact bit set and some screw drivers. And they feel much nicer and stronger than the stanley ones i have. Im looking forward to how the hart brand evolves.
Just curious how your Stanley kit is holding up? Anything break? I bought the same kit a few days ago and have been watching videos on it to make sure I can get a good few years out of the kit. Thanks!
@@starboywrld nothings broken. And i use it as a bake up set now. But worked good for the year or so i used it.
I wouldn’t use it to torque a bolt to like 200ft lbs. but its a good set for everyday uses
I love the box my husband turned his noes up at the set but all the spots click the tools in and make them all secure. I love that as I'm always the gopher seems like. A great case. I'd buy it alone...
Also can you test the pittsburg pro extending 1/2inch drive ? I got one and it's been good but I feel like the failure point is the extended part which is fairly thin and hollow
I would like to see 4 or 5 of the exact same ratchets tested to failure to see if they all fail close to the same torque or if each of these ratchets are just case by case.
Love both of these tool companies
Really need to break a large sample of each to get real numbers.. these cheap forgings will have anomalies that will cause breakage at scattered values...
I'll stick with my Craftsman and Dewalt. I never broke ratchet in my life !!! And I was beating them with a hammer and using them as a braker bar!!!
I use craftsman tools daily! The old and new get the job done. I haven't had to trade them in at Lowe's yet, but Sears always switched it over without question. Now if Lowe's does their warranty different, I may change brands.
Happy Thanksgiving to both you and Mrs. Client Graphics!! God bless!😁👍
I wish you did husky vs the new harbor freight line of mechanics tools
Could you do Craftsman ratchet vs Milwaukee ratchet in all the drive sizes?
There are so many different Craftsman styles, but I have the Milwaukee here ua-cam.com/video/2F1RbYwY-Cw/v-deo.html
And Craftsman here ua-cam.com/video/2F1RbYwY-Cw/v-deo.html and the older rectangle craftsman tucked inside this video ua-cam.com/video/2F1RbYwY-Cw/v-deo.html
Stanley is the best for handyman job and for doing tune ups in my truck 100% good they never let me down
"You wouldn't ever put your quarter inch ratchet up to 60 foot pounds" me with my snapon quarter inch ratchet changing out struts LOL
wow true testing and no b-s thank you great video
I had to buy a hart socket set from walmart to change a door latch one day in the parking lot.
Had to take it right back in, the teeth were stripped new in the box.
The second one is doing ok. But like my gear wrench, it doesn't feel like it would hold up like a snap-on.
Awesome video brother! Harts not flashy looking but seems to work 👍. My feelings on stanley is well. Most people know lol. Great job 🤜🤛
I'm surprised; I had a Stanley set in my truck (older set non-quick release ratchet, regular 12 pt sockets) and I managed to break both 1/4" & 3/8 ratchet at least twice in normal use.
I gave the set away and my friend replaced the ratchets with Tekton ones and he's very happy with it.
From you video it appears Stanley has improved the ratchets greatly, though I'm not a fan of spline drive sockets. I might consider either set as a set to keep in the truck.
I have a similar Stanley set-- best part is the easy read sockets. After using those easy-reads, there's no going back.
I have this same set since 2019 as an oil field mechanic and not a single socket or wrench has failed me yet. And those sockets I used on half inch mid torques when I need thinner profile sockets and they still work great.
@@randalwilson1795 excellent-- but Stanley I discovered will not sell replacement singles so I got two Tekton sockets with big print.
My first kit was a smaller stanley. I still have a 1/4 inch ratchet six years later. Three of which I worked in the industry for the 3/8s worked well but the backing plate would strip and the screws that hold em together would fall out and make it useless
While i find this interesting the sample size of one tool per band means it's meaningless really they all met the standard for what they were intended to do.I've only broken the anvil on one tool and it was a1/2 inch breaker bar with a 4 foot cheater on it I was jumping on it to loosen a axle nut took it back to the auto parts store were I bought it and they gave me a new one.I have bent a cheap 1/2 ratchet wrench i still have it ,and it still works.
I trust more Sanley. They make good tools for long time.
Definitely not waste of time. It tests the tensile strength of material and how the teeth and gear hold up. I have a few of the craftsman ratchet that the internal parts fail and won't lock, thinking about going to sear but also don't like their handle design and thinking about getting other brand. Ratchet more likely to be broken of the internal parts (spring, teeth and gear) from worn out over time.
I've bought the black Stanley's and they disassembled themselves in my hands. My previous regular chrome Stanley set would switch between forward and backwards randomly while using it. Extremely disappointed and I will never by stanley, or anything stanley black and decker, if I have a choice. I have a hart set and the switch lever is solid and has no intentions of self destruction. Much more pleased
Awesome video! Just wanna show you love for breaking your own tools for our enjoyment! Will subscribe for that reason alone! Keep it up! I love tool reviews!
I bought that exact Stanley set on clearance at the local Walmart for like $75. Not a bad deal in my mind.
How has it been holding up for you?
I hope when they make the craftsman sachets again in the USA. , they hold up better than that Stanley rachet
Why you say when?
Are they planning to?
Most people moved on to something else, i bought a 450pc tool set made in china, i was so dissapointed i sold it right away and bought the pittsburgh 225pc set im really happy with it, i cant believe i paid over 200 for the craftsman and all it had was a whole bunch of bits.
@@michaelguevara8015 craftsman is building a plant in texas ....google it
@@Tailgatesntoolboxes that's an assembly plant not a manufacturing plant.
The Stanley set looks exactly like my husky set I bought back in 2011. Good job on the video!!
Husky is made by the same people that make Stanley
How good is the Hart wet/dry vacuum? The big one for $69.00. Anything good about that? Thanks
I have the Stanley set they are all 6 point sockets I’ve had it for years and it’s a great set I work in a shop and still haven’t broken one of the sockets I’ve lost some 10’s and 12’s but not broken any
Thanks for the video!! Looks like either would do normal things at home
A great lesson in recognizing that if you abuse a tool; you'll break it!
Can you test some german ratchets, Stahlwille, Hazet, Gedore?
I keep seeing tests on ratchets but not so much the sockets.. isn't there much difference between the brands..thanks
Right On, Right On! Chris you know this is my favorite! Thank You for an Awesome Video!
Thanks buddy, glad you enjoyed it. This was a last minute thing literally started it last night at 10pm.
I have that Stanley set. Good set of you need 12 point/universal sockets.
I used the black Stanley set on tanks and other military needs for an entire deployment and didn’t break anything yet.
Thanks for doing this test. There's a lot of crap out there.
1/4 ratchets are rated for like 3,4 - 18 ft/lbs. why would anyone give a care about one breaking at 50 ft/lbs -v- 75 ft/lbs.?
3/8'' rate from around 10-80 ft/lbs and 1/2'' 30 - 150, 200 ft/lbs or so.
my point is any of these do the job they are designed for. if you have to use a cheater bar the tool is not being used for its intended purpose.
Are they both made in the same place with the same metal/ materials? TTI = HART & "Stanley" don't live in Hartford anymore.
That looks more like the regular Pittsburgh ratchet that comes in every set they sell the professional I thought was slimmer & the release button was lower? I picked up a small 3/8th hard set in a small blue & white box & there 3/8th & 1/2in extendable ratchets that once extended ya wont need a cheater bar & at 90t there real heavy duty but you gotta check out there self adjusting hart channel locks 8" or 10" they have a real good feel plus are super this & get into places normal channel locks wouldn't fit..but last but not least there hart 1" chisel is unbelievable made out of a single piece of steel & for under $10 ok man keep up the great video's
I'm a Makita guy! Ima go check it out. Maybe I'll get a hand tool or something. That chisel looked pretty tough!
I got the hyper tough set it was 90% off ...I wonder if it would hold up to these two.? I really like the look of the Hart tools...the fit and finish of there cordless need to be improved opon... especially for the price point they are at.
HyperTough is the cheapest of the cheap and not comparable, but if youre just a weekend warrior it usually doesnt matter.
Went to WalMart today and all the Stanley tools were replaced/rebranded Hart. Hart is just Stanley tools rebranded in WalMart now. Absolutely all Stanley or most is now taken by Hart brand at my NJ and PA, NY area stores.
I like Hazet and Stahlwille.
Very cool video. Super interesting. I just don't stress most of my tools to any sorts of limits like these. Basic, general household and (home) shop type use. But when out buying tools, it's cool to know what you're looking at. I've never seen anything quite like this. Good vid.
I'm surprised at this man's sub count. He does some great testing. Gotta test some ratchet wrenches
Its pretty useless tbh
The Pittsburgh pro is a good rachet and it's easier to get replace ment. You take it into harbor freight I they will replace it right quick.
Push those harbor freight ratchets back and forth and hold that tension for length like you did the others… I can tell you definitely favor harbor. Takin it easy on them lol ;)
Think I have a Stanley kit and have had no issues and think this is a weird test as many of those should never be used to the torques you are putting them thru in normal use most times you would be using a breaker bar or a electric ratchet to undo a bolt that tight.
How has your Stanley kit held up? Are the ratchets still working good? Got one a few days ago and seeing if I should return it or not. Seems fine so far to me.
@@starboywrld Yeah still good they are good cheap option if starting out. I bought mine maybe 3-4 yrs ago I think and ratchet is still fine. But saying that I don’t use them every single day they get minimal use mostly just used to do an oil change on my motorbike.
@@izaak1509 Sounds good. Thanks for your reply. Yeah for starter tools they seem solid. Hoping to upgrade them in a few years time but for working on my car at home, they should be good.