Why Don't More Countries Speak Italian?
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Countries With Italian As An Official Language: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...
Countries With Spanish As An Official Language: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...
Countries With French As An Official Language: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...
Countries With English As An Official Language: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...
Countries With Dutch As An Official Language: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...
Countries With Portugese As An Official Language: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugu...
Western Colonialism: www.britannica.com/topic/West...
Why Is Italy The Main Language Of One Country: www.quora.com/Why-is-Italian-...
Why Didn’t Italy Colonise?: www.quora.com/Why-did-Italy-n...
Italian Empire: www.newworldencyclopedia.org/...
Italian In Eritrea: www.madote.com/2017/06/the-ita...
Italian In Libya: thearabweekly.com/italian-lan...
Italian In Ethiopia: project-e.eu/italian-influenc...
Italian In Somalia: www.aa.com.tr/en/africa/itali...
Italian In China: theasiadialogue.com/2015/10/2...
Do you speak Italian?
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I know many words and I know the gist of the language, but I don't speak it.
Its statistically unlikely.
Saluti dalla Svizzera 😎🇨🇭🇮🇹
I'm a A2 level speaker, trying to get to B1.
I find it so fascinating how Italy and Germany share so many parallels, yet are almost polar opposite of each other in a cultural sense. Italy being a Latin country that birthed Catholicism, and Germany being a Germanic country that birthed Protestantism. Both joined the Colonial race much later than other Western European countries, because they were not unified nations until the 1800s, and geographically they had poor access to the Atlantic Ocean, as Italy is stuck in the Mediterranean, and Germany is stuck in the North and Baltic Sea, where other Western Colonial powers could easily cut them access to the Atlantic waters.
They missed out on the Americas, but got the leftover colonies in Africa, which were all handed to the British and French after WWII, in which they both sided together. Interestingly enough, although they didn't get any colonies in the Americas, they migrated there in large numbers, to the point that German descendants make the largest diaspora in the US, and Italians descendants make up the largest diaspora in Argentina.
We Italians are not only latin, the italics tribe were a lot. Latin were a tribe around the area of Latium.
@@cricio9139 Technically, you are right. I was just using the term Latin as an ethnolinguistic term, because the entire Italy was Latinized over time, as Etruscan, Rhaetic, ancient Ligurian, Lepontic, North Picene, Messapic, and other Italic languages like Venetic, South Picene, Faliscan, Umbrian, Oscan, and Siculian are no longer spoken in any of these territories, since the Italian dialects today derive from Latin, and not these languages.
@Off Road Guy Yeah, the South of Brazil received a lot of Italians. Brazil has the largest diaspora of Italian descendants outside of Italy. It's just in terms of percentage relative to the entire country's population, is more significant in Argentina.
Great post. Interesting how two nations that are so different culturally share many similar characteristics and traits and have a similar origin stories.
The numbers of the Italian diaspora are still today confused and vague.
But right now there are 80 millions of Italians and Italian descendants around the world, without counting the 55-60 millions in Italy.
Interestingly enough, an Egyptian friend once told me that there are quite a few words in the Egyptian dialect of Arabic that are borrowed from Italian. For example estbena from “sta bene” which means everything ok or fattura which means bill.
Apparently it’s because there were a lot of Italian migrants who came looking for jobs in Egyptian port cities and eventually some of Italian words caught on
I’m guessing that Coptic Christianity had something to do with that as well.
I'm egyptian, ive never heard someone say estbena
@@1MercuryOxide1 there is actually a song for abu al anwar called estabena (استابينا) it is just a rare word
@@kevoedoek okay thanks
I think it's worth noticing that also some of the greatest italian poets like Filippo Tommaso Marinetti and Giuseppe Ungaretti were born in Egypt (in particular both were from Alexandria)
When I was in music class we learned a lot of Italian words, because many musical terms are actually Italian.
literally all of them
Like "Pianissimo, Piano, Veloce, Velocissimo"
Many of the world’s terms are actually Italian.. 😂
Italian rule in Albania did actually have a major impact on the country and there's still plenty of Italian speakers in the country
Majority of Albanians speak italian
Mario Andretti was born in what is now Croatia (edited to get people to not continually reiterate on my mistake).
As 83 % of Albanians (nota bene: those still living there) want to leave Albania why not reclaim this country as part of Italy? The "Albanian language", in reality a Toscan-Gheg dialect continuum, could continue as one of those numerous Italian dialects.
@@ruedigernassauer what are you talking about, albanian is not even a romance language, it is it's own group
@@cratorcic9362 I just looked it up, and he was born in what is now Croatia.
italian was official in malta until 1934. despite this at least 70% of maltese still speak italian today due to schools and media being available. there are also still a few parts of slovenia and croatia where italian is spoken and recognized. also corsican is nearly identical to italian. theres also an italian school in eritrea in africa
why isnt italian official anymore?
@@mojewjewjew4420 The English forbade it, most likely to avoid fascist Italy from claiming Malta as part of their "empire"
Italian had a resurgence though. In the 50s, and 60s, the percentage of Italian speakers in Malta was very low. I've read it was below 20%
@@antoniousai1989 ffs the logic or lack of it, speaking italian doesnt mean they want to be part of Italy, though I dont see the problem if they join it now.
@@mojewjewjew4420 You don't understand the point. It's not about what the Maltese wanted. It's about Fascist Italy having the excuse to try to annex Malta.
They kinda did the same with Greece, well, they tried to, by saying that Greeks and Italians were basically the same. And they did in Dalmatia too due to the presence of Italians in the ancient coastal cities that belonged to Venice, like Split/Spalato or Dubrovnik/Ragusa, setting up for the revenge of the Yugoslavian partisans.
It's basically what Russia did with Ukraine. You say that Ukraine/Malta is not a real country, that they are basically the same as Russians/Italians, that their language is fake and so is their history.
Italian fascists still dream of having Corsica just because Corsicans speak an Italian dialect.
@@antoniousai1989 Lmao this is how you trigger an npc.
Look I get the point but you dont, I said Italy can get it now not then, ukraine today is the best example even if maltese spoke italian italy wouldnt invade britain because it was alot stronger and couldnt even during the war, it is an excuse to ban the language, to further cement british influence like in Cyprus, where they pitted greeks against turks to maintain power and still do less overtly.
Italian and German have striking parallel histories.
There are more Italian than Spanish descents in Argentina and there are more German than British descents in the US.
Italian language and culture made a huge impact on Argentina and same as that of the German on the USA.
Italian and German never became official languages in the former colonies of Italy and Germany because their presence in them were short-lived at less than a century.
The Italians has a huge contribution in arts/music while the Germans in science.
Very interesting indeed 🎉🎉🎉🎉
There's more British descendants then german, it's that most ppl like to identify either their most recent immigration ancestors, n British isn't seen as exotic enough and alot of ppl of British descent don't know their lineage cos they been there that long
NO. MOST ARE BRITISH DESCENDANTS IN THE US BECAUSE MANY HAVE BEEN IMMIGRATING THERE, FOR CENTURIES, WHEREAS GERMAN IMMIGRANTS HAD ARRIVED IN THE US, MUCH MORE LATER, AFTER THE 1900'S WHICH IS NOT THAT LONG AGO.
The other commenters are correct, the idea that German-americans are the largest group of europeans in the US is broadly a misconception. People simply often identify with their most recently arrived european ancestor (which are often germans as they were the last large group to immigrate en-masse), disregarding the fact that their british ancestry can be traced accross multiple lines through the centuries. British americans are still by far the largest group, this is easily attested to by DNA research
What?!? Italy has a huuuuuuuuge contribution in science, bro!!!
The real difference is in philosophy, because Italy has always been Catholic, and Catholic philosophy is not true modern free thought, and the Italians have had to channel free philosophy into the arts.
the USA and Argentina are like the same thing but different, Germany is what Italy is for Spain and vise versa, they got the same history but different you know
The Italian diaspora might be more important than the official colonies for the spread of Italian language and culture. In Brazil, there’s a dialect called “Talian” which is co-official in a few towns
Yeah, but Talian is a dialect of the Venetian Language, not of the Italian language
@@pietrocolombo1425 lo dice il nome stesso: talian
Non facciamo confusione tra lingua e linguaggio, l'italiano ha due (e più) termini, l'inglese uno solo
@@paolox2458non c'è nulla da fare confusione, il taliano parlato in Portogallo è veneto non italiano.
Talian is not italian, it's venetian which is not an italian dialect.
@@natural783 Vedo che sai di che si parla, eee?
Portogallo!
Se non sai di che paese parliamo come fai a sapere se è lingua o dialetto? Non ne sai nulla dai, parli per amore di polemica, per fare il fighetto che sa (cosa poi?).
Il veneto è un dialetto italiano, tra i più simili alla lingua nazionale da cui differisce davvero poco. Per il resto del nord se ne può parlare, ma il veneto è DECISAMENTE italiano.
What could've also been mentioned is the fact that whilst Malta was colonised by the French and thr UK in its recent history, we still have quite a lot of Italian speakers. Over half the island speaks Italian (mainly because of how prevalent Italian broadcasts were compared to the few local channels)
A lot of italians move to Malta too
So you saw a lot of Rai and Mediaset when you where Little ?
You touched upon this at around 5:00, but I'd really like to emphasize how recently Italy was unified in a linguistic sense because not many people realize this. According to the Italian National Institute of Statistics, the majority of the country did not speak Italian on a day-to-day basis until the mid-1970s. They were predominantly speaking their regional languages. So even though Italian more or less as we know it today has been around for hundreds of years, the language really didn't spread to the common people until the advent of radio and television.
Wow that's crazy! And to think that all these regional languages are most likely being forgotten because of it... a real shame.
This is less important of what you think. The Italian language was the common language of the culture in Italy since the Middle Ages and was adopted in document since the XVIth century in all Italian States.
As a religious catholic province Italy did exist as an unity long before the political unification.
Sermons in churches had been in Italian since at least the 16th century. Preachers moved without borders throughout Italy. Italian language was understood by the simple people more than it is believed and than has been propagated by the Northern League and the Neo-Bourbonists since the 1990s.
To speak a regional language never meant not understanding Italian.
@@giorgiodifrancesco4590 It's actually very important when it comes to explaining why the Italian language is not spoken more widely. It means that even if Italy colonized more places and Italians emigrated to more countries, Italian still wouldn't be as widely spoken as you would expect it to be because most of the immigrants would not have spoken Italian when they left.
@@giorgiodifrancesco4590 Also being able to understand a language and actually using it every day are two different things. Most Italian immigrants were not speaking Italian to each other in the countries they immigrated to.
@@NYRangers928 That has nothing to do with the topic. If they spoke different languages and they understood directely this demonstrate what I said before.
This is the same thing that happened
between German immigrants. Would you say that German wasn't the common language of Germans before their unification?
Germany was full of different germanic popular languages, but it existed the German too.
A language in order to exist don't need to be spoken at home or in normal interactions.
Germany seems to suffer the same fate as Italy.
True
German’s words can get awfully long and agglutinative without the linguistic features of few object words or pronouns and almost no verb irregularity, so that might have something to do with it.
Germany didn't colonize many places.
@@CountingStars333 We were the third largest colonial power at the turn of the twentieth century, however, we lost all of those colonies after WW1
@@scottgrohs5940 I don't understand Kraftfahrzeug-Haftpflichtversicherung isn't a long word?
And yet, no matter where I went in the world I somehow managed to always find an Italian speaker, be it an Italian living abroad or someone of Italian descent... Especially from the South. The diaspora really. Did. Spread us all across the world.
Very true, my mother had an Italian flat mate growing up and she lived in England, Scotland , Norway and now New York
I get your point, but the big diasporas took place when the Italian language was still known by a few people, while most of the people still spoke local languages/dialects.
E.g. in Little Italy, most came from South Italy, thus they speak Sicilian or Neapolitan, while most in Brazil or Argentina spoke Venetian.
Nowadays the Italians who moved to other places are of higher education, therefore they usually speak proper Italian (aside from local languages, secondarily).
It's funny I found several other people in my school with Italian surnames most of them are third of forth gen and only speak English
In London the amount of Italians is absurd
While Italy did not have Italian territories in the americas, many Italians immigrated to South America. Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay have many people with Italian surnames. They assimilated much easier than the US, due to similar Latin language and catholic culture. Today only the old timers speak Italian or Italian regional languages in South America. The younger generations are fully assimilated and speak Spanish or Portuguese.
Italian is actually spoken in Libya sometimes as well as other former Italian colonies. As well as Albania as it used to be part of Italy and in Malta my home country many people choose it to be a third language along with Maltese and English. So considering Italy, it has a decent range when it comes to how far its language comes.
the Italian language was the official language from the Middle Ages until the end of the thirties, due to the anti-Italian policy against the popular will to reunite with Italian, as in other countries such as Corsica, Dalmatia, Nice and the Ionian islands, to maintain the their own domino they tried to make a campaign of anglicisation of the island of malta from 1900 which failed in part to replace the italian and they tried to cut the historical and cultural link between malta and the italian world then supporting maltese and making luso italian illegal Officially Italian, during the period of British occupation Malta was subjected to a regime of pressure against revolts against the British foreign regime, a similar thing happens in Gilbraltar.
*One important point needs correcting from the vid. Ethiopia was NEVER **_colonized_** by Italy - or any other invader in it's long 3,000 year history. It was **_occupied_** by Italy for a short period. In fact, it was occupied for much less time than Germany occupied France & with less impact. An occupation is NOT the same as colonization. So, It'd be just as silly to say Germany "colonized" France as it would be to say Italy "colonized" Ethiopia.*
Haha only mafiosi and other dark figures speak it in Albania and Libya hahah
@@helloxonsfan Sono italiano ma ti do assolutamente ragione. L'Etiopia è stata occupata per pochi anni e vaste regioni non furono mai occupate dall'Italia
I'm Italian but I give you absolutely right. Ethiopia was occupied for a few years and vast regions were never occupied by Italy.
Only albania and libya can speak a bit of italian and its only the basics
as a libyan we have a couple words that are barrowed from italian, esspicaly modern stuff like all car parts are italian, for example goma, marcha, frenu.
Wow, i never knew that. That makes me really happy as an Italian, are there any other words spoken in modern Libyan that were borrowed from italian may I ask?
@@regidelthegeneralthatzappe4469 Kujina for kitchen, salita for slope, cassa for box, garage, forcetta for fork, pala for shovel, a decent amount. most conversation has at least one italian word
@@mlgdigimon omg that's so cool! Hugs from Italy
@@mlgdigimon Moroccans also say Forcetta for some reason oddly, and bala too, i never knew it's italian until now
@@farouk5344 it might be from French for you guys
What, a mere mention of Mussolini gets a video on an educational channel demonetized? That is wild.
The funny thing is, this is exactly what Mussolini would have wanted. Censoring his name so no one can talk it down.
È vero, la lingua italiana è parlata da "solo" 85 milioni di persone , ma è comunque una lingua meravigliosa, e sono fiero di essere italiano.
Ciao
@@davidechiarini369 Ciao!
@@davidechiarini369 Ciao!
Que cullo.
@@augustuscaesar8287 ?
The Ottomans had a large colonial empire stretching from Tunesia to Kuwait but Turkish also has little linguistic impact. Also, German is official in 7 countries and recognised in 10 other countries, most of which were colonized by Germans or German speakers (think of Transsylvania and parts of Russia for instance).
@@InsertAccount German is present in those countries as a minority or regional language. By that logic, you could say the same about almost every language being "everywhere."
As a pakistani, I can tell you Turkish, persian and Arabic all have major influence on Urdu (even the urdu name is about the muslim soldiers... the merging with the locals). I'd assume it's a big part of Hindi as well as those languages are currently more like dialects with speach, but I believe there are attempts to divide with Hindi trying to take the Sanskrit influences and Urdu trying to take the Arabic, farsi and turkish influences.
@@InsertAccount The original comment was about where German is an official language. What you listed were countries where it's only a minority or regional language.
It is difficult to make people in your colonies stop speaking what is a holy language to yourself, it would be like spain trying to make italian priests stop speaking latin.
It's official in 6 countries
Good video but I think it's a shame that the former italian speaking regions near Italy, like Istria, Dalmatia and Corsica weren't mentioned at all.
Also the biggest italian communities abroad are in south America, not in the USA
Well right now the ones that speak Italian in Croatia learned it for commercial reasons, most of native Italian speaker there were killed and dumped in the foibe or fled because they were scared
@@bambambaactually the majority of them wasn’t killed but they were forced to drop the language and learn one of the slavic ones, they had their passports removed and if seen speaking Italian they could get processed and shot. Around 200k balkan citizens to this day descend from Italians but don’t speak it and most likely don’t even know they come from this heritage.
It’s always made me sad that Italian is more widely spoke around the world bc it’s such an amazing and musical language. La lingua ha una musica bellissima.
No
@@BAn-hy3tsItalian is the 23rd most widely spoken language in the world.
No
No it is not widely spoken in the world
@@thato596 Italian is the fourth language more studied in the world
. After English, Spanish and Chinese, but before French.
Italian wasn't even a language until the movement for Italian unification. It's based on the old Toscano, the Tuscan language. Many elderly Italian people today still speak their old languages, such as Sardinian, Genoese, Venetian, Sicilian, etc. Fun fact, Sardinian is the closest language to the original Roman Latin. The younger generations unfortunately grew up in Italy without those languages, learning only Italian.
it was based on the old tuscan, not just tuscan. Old tuscan and modern one are two completely different languages
@@TheLifeLaVita Thank you. That's very interesting. So where did the current Tuscan come from? Not from the old Tuscan? All languages evolve. Old English, Old French, etc. Aren't all the local languages in Italy "old," being replaced by Italian?
@@vuhdeem ahahah I exaggerated with completely different but tuscan is tuscan, and it's very different from italian, just like any other italian language. Old tuscan was much closer to italian, talking about 1400s. When people told you italian comes from tuscan, it was probably a tuscan. They're the only ones in italy that DON'T speak italian, because they are convinced they do, so you can't understand them if you speak italian
@@TheLifeLaVita That is so interesting to me that all those languages are not dialects of Italian but are actually different languages. That's fascinating!
@@TheLifeLaVita u
A fair amount of Istria and Dalmatia in Croatia speak or understand Italian. Claims on the land went back and forth between Italy and Croatia/Yugoslavia. In Rijeka, there’s even a historical Italian speaking school. One thing I find fascinating is how Italian heavily influenced the local Croatian dialects around there, with “borrowed” words like pomodor for tomato instead of the standard Croatian rajčica. Or barca for a boat instead of the croatian čamac.
In the 19th century, more than half of chakavian lexicon was Latin, a percentage now reduced, due to pressure from the pan-Slavists and the croatian nationalists.
It's interesting that Croatian borrowed "pomodoro" from official Italian, while most of local languages/dialects call them some form of "tomatis/tomate"
@@Kaizzer hmm the more you know!
You make a mistake in the video. It's true that Italy didn't exists but Italian did. People calls themselves Italians, the culture was almost equal everywhere with regional differences that survived the unification. Dante himself calls the concept of Italy in the Divina Commedia. Then for exemple in foreign countries Italians organize themselves in Italian communities and not Genovese or Florence's one. Then a problem you didn't analyze is that Italy doesn't have an ocean coastline and this take Italians to focus much more on the Mediterranean, in fact Venice and Genua had colonies, but all in Mediterranean places.
Actually, Dutch is an official language in 3 countries. The Netherlands, Belgium and Suriname.
Yes Afrikaans exists and is closely related, but not that close.
Not that close? They seem pretty close to me I’ve seen some Dutch go so far as to call it a dialect
They are mutually intelligable, barely qualifies as a seperate language.
Yes and some islands in the Caribbean but those are still part of the Netherlands
@@sebastianbremen340 Sint-Maarten, Curaçao and Aruba are countries within the Kingdom, on equal level with the (mostly) European country of the Netherlands, and they have almost complete self-rule. So Dutch is official in 6 countries, Afrikaans is official in one country and recognised in one other country. So I'd say 7/8 countries for the Dutch language and its decendent.
@@hans7856 they are not independent, as no country recognizes them as independent.
Although the Italian language is not among the most widely spoken, Italy has an artistic and cultural heritage that is the most influential in the world like no other country.
You forget maffia and corrupt south italians
@@BAn-hy3tsand u foreigners always forget we had 2 wars against the mafia both won by Italy which is why we’re not in the same state as Mexico ( sorry for all Mexicans reading:< )
@@BAn-hy3ts Unfortunately, these things exist almost everywhere in the world!
However, your comment makes it seem that there is a bit of jealousy towards Italy. Maybe I'm wrong!
@@Boretheory o South Italy not good its known Napoli not good city
@@AntonGrey8 no jealousy just see what going on. Dont worry.
It's why I moved to Italy. I wanted to speak more Italian. Unfortunately too many people move here without bothering to learn the language. Sigh.
That happens in a lot of places. Many Latin Americans move to the US without bothering to learn English. Likewise, American "expats" moving to Thailand, Mexico, Costa Rica, etc. also don't learn the local language.
Why learn maffia language? 🤣
@@TheJosman Well, in France, most Asian Boomers, and a significant part of Asian GenXers can't utter a French word to save their lives.
Italian influence in Ethiopia:
Machina=Car
Bandira=Flag
Chao=bye
Calcho=
Kick
Never colonized
Italian is well spoken in Argentina, USA, Brazil, Slovenia, Croatia, Albania, Malta and in some cases it’s official at a local level
Yeah the only one I knew was Malta because I have a friend from there
They also speak Spanish, English and Maltese
a very interesting and informative video that curiously forgot to mention perhaps the greatest of italy's cultural exports to the wider world: the latin script/alphabet, that spread from the italian peninsula to become by far the most widely used in the world, with over 130 countries adopting it as the official script for their language. almost all major european languages use it (german, english, italian, french, spanish, portuguese, polish, dutch, romanian, hungarian etc) as well as various other major languages (turkish, vietnamese, indonesian, malaysian, filipino etc).. ancient italy "colonized" these languages with the latin script much earlier than the "age of discoveries".
The map of Somalia you used is incorrect. Italian Somaliland consisted of the southern 2 thirds of the area you showed. The North third was British Somaliland which became a British protectorate in 1884. 5 years before the formation of Italian Somaliland. Italy did briefly occupy British Somaliland for about a year during WW2 but it was never formally part of Italy’s colonial empire
Ill save you 10 minutes, because they didn’t have as vast an empire as the British the Spanish or French therefore they didn’t have colonies that would speak the language
XD
So sad, they were divided so they couldn’t colonize. Why is it being painted as a bad thing that Italy didnt have major cultural changes to other nations because they got to the game to late.
@@ryanrichardson5844 I don’t think its being painted as a sad thing. colonisation was certainly a bad thing and it’s good that a lot more lands got to keep their own languages resources and culture.
French is only majority language in 1 country: France itself. In all other its a minority language😆.
Italian does seem to be the language of music, at least Western classical music. So tempo and volume markings, allegro, forte, etc., are in Italian. Perhaps that's worth a video. I can see why you'd want to settle on a single language since it would be silly for a musician to have to master a dozen languages to read sheet music. I don't know why it landed on Italian though.
I wouldn't say that Italian is the 1 language of Western classical music. There's a bunch of German tempo markings in the likes of Beethoven, Schubert, Schumann, and Mahler. Those German tempo markings can get very precise such as Etwas lebhaft und mit der innigsten Empfindung(German for Somewhat lively and with the most intimate feeling) in Beethoven's Op. 101 piano sonata. Closest Italian counterpart to that would be Allegretto con espressione, not as precise as the German in terms of how it should feel.
And there's English tempo markings too(which I don't like so much, cause they are more ambiguous than the Italian or especially German markings). There's even French tempo markings in Debussy, Ravel etc. German expressive markings, such as ausdrucksvoll, the German counterpart of espressivo, as well as German terms for instrument numbers (zu2 instead of a2, Aufteilung instead of divisi, etc.) can be found in Mahler. German instrument names can be found in Brahms and again Mahler. French expressive markings can be found in Debussy and Ravel.
Even Mozart has German tempo markings in his lieder(which is also where you find most of the German tempo markings in Beethoven and Schubert).
As an example, here's 1 tempo marking in Italian and their counterparts in English, German, and French, which can all be found in classical music:
Italian: Molto Adagio
German: Sehr langsam
English: Very slow
French: Très Lent
@@caterscarrots3407 Yes, I think it became a lot more international in the 1800;s. For example Beethovan piano sonata #14 1st movement (1802) is marked "Adagio sostenuto", but Schumann's Album für die Jugend (1848) has markings like "Nicht schnell". How likely the performer will be able to understand probably has a lot to do with it, so I'm pretty sure Bartók didn't put markings in Hungarian, at least not very often.
Because most musicians working for the kings and emperors of Europe were Italians
But my instruments are German/Austrian. The modern Oboe was invented in Germany, and the English Horn was invented in Austria. Englisch (with the sch) in German also means "angelic" as well as "English" so the correct translation would be the Angelic Horn.
@@xxxBradTxxx so?
Italian was the official language of all Italian states during the Renaissance and "Italian" as an ethnonym was already used by Italians to describe themselves.
In sardinia we didn't speak italian😊
@@diegone080 True. W Sardigna Natzione.
It was the official language but almost nobody spoke it. Only the cultured ones did and most of them still spoke mainly their regional language.
@@nyko921 people can switch between Italian and dialect depending on the situation.
Most of the Italian population had a perfect understanding of standard Italian, but I agree with you that only a minority was able to use actively. That was the case also for all other countries.
If you read Les Miserables you would see plenty of situations were loer class people from the countryside were unable to express themselves in correct French.
Completely wrong and false statement. There was a perception of Italian as lingua franca in the Italian peninsula, due to literary works from Dante Boccaccio etc. Anyway there was no such a thing as the Italian as the official language of the italian states, which had their own langages. Above all, normal people would generally not understand it well.
5:19 bro, the modern Italian is based on the old Tuscan vulgar, it's not from Calabria
Italy wasn't a unified country until the 19th century and they really didn't have any overseas colonies.
Italy created various settlements in Indonesia but the British didn't want to, the same thing on the coast near Nigeria, not to mention that Tuscany tried to make a colony in America in Guyana
Eritrea, Somalia, Ethiopia, Libya.
Plus they stole Mexicos flag 🇲🇽
@@tommygogetter5992 It seems strange, but our flag is from 1796, before the creation of Mexico
@@tommygogetter5992 Mexicans and Italians both "stole" it from France. Learn your history, pèon
Italy, Switzerland, Vatican, San Marino -- that's 4, add part of Malta
plus Croatia and Slovenia
as an italian, i would define san marino and vatican like "Italian territories not fully occupied"
@@Thomase2_4 They have 0 autonomy without us, can't do shit without or permission. They are at the level of a not incorporate territory.
Actually, German is spoken by more countries than Italian
-Germany
-Austria
-Liechtenstein
-Belgium
-Switzerland
-Luxemburg
Namibia as well
Kazakhstan too
German is also spoken in Italy.
@@ThePanEthiopianeally?why if they don’t have any connection
But here are counted only countries where is official at a Country level, not as a local language (that's why they are not counting Slovenia, Croatia, Montenegro, Brazil) and microstates are not considered (San Marino, Vatican City).
So the count for German is Germany, Austria ans Switzerland.
Still more than Italian (just Italy and Switzerland).
England, Spain, Portugal, France all have direct access to Altantic Ocean, thus are freely to explore and colonise the world. Their colony adopted their languages and cultures over the years. On the other hand, Italy has limited access to Altantic Ocean. Its influence is limited on Mediterranean Sea. Thus Italy has far few colonies than other countries.
Not really, most of the countries speaking French are in Africa. So your argument does not make any sense. The only reason why those countries have their languages spoken everywhere is because they were global power. Italy has never been a global power. And today Italy is still a regional power which only exists within the European Union on the contrary of France that has the nuclear dissuasion, a permanent seat at the UN Security Council, France is home to more than 70 global institutions, has a its territory all over the planet…
@@labechamel75 France has a permanent seat at the UN as well as nuclear deterrence, exclusively because during the Second World War it was part of the allies that won that war, not because it is today a world power. Just like Italy, France is a regional power, as is Germany, with a different specific weight, but all three exist only within the EU. Similarly, the UK has long been an exclusively regional power, now in a deep crisis after Brexit.
@@labechamel75He is right all those countries had important ports. The exception being France having colonies in Africa.
@@massimilianocampone9870 mon ami, don’t get trapped into the Anglo-Saxon history propaganda. They started to do a remake of WWII in 2003 when France refused the invasion of Iraq at the UN - and on this topic, history proved that France was right to refused it when you look at the disaster today.
Anyway, during WWII, France participated as much as the allies in its own liberation via « La France Libre » of the General de Gaulle. I give you few examples you should look at. 1) the battle of Dunkirk - without the sacrifice of the French army at the battle of Dunkirk to protect the retreat of the Brits, the British army would have simply disappeared and the UK would have been invaded after the « Operation Sea Lion » (historian consensus). 2) The battles of Marseille and Strasbourg - France liberated its big cities itself in Marseille under the command of the General de Lattre de Tassigny and Strasbourg under the command of General Leclerc. 3) The Husky and Normandy Operations - The Free France army was also part of the Allied invasion of Sicily and the Normandy Landing so France contributed to the overall Allied victory. 4) Eastern Germany occupation - the Free France army was part of the Allied occupation in Eastern Germany.
Therefore, to answer your point, France did not get the nuclear deterrence because of the Allied. On the contrary, France decided to develop it independently (compared to the UK that made it with the US) to prevent Germany to start again such a war against France but also to get rid of the US domination in Europe. Then, again you cannot compare France and Italy powers for the reason that a “global power” is a country that can project its hard and soft power everywhere on the planet. In terms of hard power, France via its overseas territories in north, central and south america, europe, africa, and in the Indo pacific can project its power everywhere on earth. France territory reaches more than 1 million sq km (including the Terres Australes et Antarctique Françaises). You can Google “France Overseas Territories” and you will understand. France has the largest EEZ (maritime area on which a country can apply its sovereignty) in the world and can access 97% of the water on the planet and therefore to strategic resources under the sea. On the contrary, Italy geography is very limited to the Mediterranean sea in which fishes are disappearing.
Moreover, France has again a sovereign nuclear deterrence but also a sovereign access to space (the European Space Agency is only possible via the Space program developed by France in French Guyane). France after the US and Russia has the 3rd military-industrial complex, is the 3rd arms exporter in the world and the 1st army in the EU. In term of soft power, France beside the US and China has the most powerful diplomacy on the planet as it has the 3rd largest network of Embassies and Consulates. French language is spoken on every continent and with the demographic rise of Africa will be among the top 3 most spoken languages by 2050. France is also the most visited country in the world, is home to more than 70 international organization headquarters such as Unesco, Interpol, European Parliament, Council of Europe, European Space Agency, General Conference on Weight and measures, OECD… Just to give you an overview, until 2019 before the pandemic, France global soft power was ranked 2nd in the world. Italy is a great country but mainly for vacations.
@@OliverNorth9729 France does not have colonies in Africa. The decolonization process was over in the previous century. Wake up!
Let's not forget that the name America 🇺🇸 was named after the Italian 🇮🇹 Amerigo Vespucci. Amerigo was an Italian explorer. His men wanted to name the land they found and it was common to to give a country a female name. So Amerigo ➡️ Ameriga ➡️ America.
Same thing with Columbus. His Italian name was Cristoforo Colombo, and they wanted to name a country based on his discovery, so maybe call it Colomba 🕊️... no that's a dove...Colomb...ia? Yes, Colombia 🇨🇴.
Buddy, América is a whole continent, not just one country. I've never understood why the nameless country has taken over the name of a continent. Go figure
@@victorcb6795 Always you goofy people trying to pretend people don’t use America to refer to the USA
@@victorcb6795 🤓
@@OHHnoYOUdidntMAN because only people whose native language is english do. In italian spanish and many other languages we call it only stati uniti/estados unidos (united states) and we use statunitense/estadounidense to refer to it. America is the continent.
We understand what you mean but it still sounds wrong to us.
@@victorcb6795America*
Many don't know it but Italy had some little land concessions in China, and so did Russia, France, Germany, the UK, Austria-Hungary, the US and Japan.
and Belgium
Been a while, Patrick. I’m glad to see how much you’ve improved. Keep it up
Italian renaissance started in the early 14th century. And it is important to note that italian identity definitely existed at the time.
Yes, but that doesn't mean that it was widespread in the same way as it is today. Part of northern Italy was practically French; Sardinia was culturally independent and owned by the Spaniards; Southern Italy was Spanish owned and culturally separated, even though some authors (even Dante), considered Sicilians Italians.
Really interesting mate
Italian influence was through the Roman Empire and the romance languages, the world loves Italy and it’s culture and history.
Roman Empire =\= Italy 😅
There are a lot of cities in Spain or in other countries that have been Roman before Milan, Turin etc
@@user-ni9ny6cr4ithey were founded by Latins those Spanish cities not by native Hibernians. And nobody said ONLY Italians are romans almost all mediterranean people might have descent
I think the real question should be why don't more countries speak Portuguese or Dutch.
Exactly!!!! Portuguese are Dutch are so much better than Italian from a linguistical stand point lol
Or any Scandinavian languages.
The Netherlands lost colonial territory after the napoleonic wars (Sri Lanka south afrika and some more)
the answer: Portuguese didn't usually look for any expand inland or forcefull assimilation of Natives. Therefore, the territories Portuguese held usually shared the native languages, like in Macau (which still has the old and endangered language of Patua), Timor Leste (which speaks alongside Portuguese the native language of Tétum), Portuguese India (specially Goa, which retained the heavilly influenced language of Konkani). Portuguese also influenced languages such as Arabic (example being the word Portucale, which means orange in most middle eastern languages), Japanese, even modern Indonesian (specially because of the colonization of Malacca and the Moluccas), aswell as some Portuguese creoles still existing in Cabo Verde (crioulo cabo-verdiano) aswell as guinea-bissau creole and even papiamento, an existing portuguese based creole official language in the dutch caribbean islands.
@@charleesamuelson6152 How are they better from a linguistical standpoint?
Libyans did speak Italian. All of my grandparents spoke Italian. But, with Gaddafi’s coup in 1969, he scrapped Italian lessons from being taught in schools and shifted to an Arab curriculum due to his early pan-Arab stance. Later on, around the 90s and 2000s, he became less Arabist and effectively replaced Italian with English concerning foreign languages being taught in schools. This is why I can speak English, but can’t speak Italian like my grandparents, while my parents don’t speak either language except for Arabic. Though, Libyan Arabic has a ton of Italian words.
Thank you, good video.
Italy doesn't have a coast on the atlantic. All of the countries that did major colonizing did.
Ireland
to be fair, italian trade came from through the middle east, not around africa
Oddly, the case could be made that German and Italian followed parallel courses (think about it)
Japan too
As an argentinian I speak italian too.
Io parlo anche italiano🙈🥰
italian city states actually had colonies , but in mediterranean and black sea . venetia had corfu, creta , cyprus , dalmatia , , genoa had some cities in north africa, middle east , in crimea , aegean sea . And the Grand Duke of Tuscany tried to have a colony in Colombia , but was too expensive for the economy of mini states . i add that for centuries parts of italy were subjects of other powers , mainly spain , but also france and austria .
Thanks!
Brazil and Argentina has many Italian speakers, even not being an official language.
Many Argentinians spoke Spanish with Italian accent. The same happens with Portuguese in some areas of São Paulo and Rio Grande do Sul in Brazil. Many people of these areas, for exemple, forget the "S" at the end of words to use the plural form.
no hay muchas personas q hablan italiano en argentina
I would not omit to also mention Roman Law. Which is the basis on which the law is based in almost all countries, especially those with a western culture; which is a subject of study in all schools for those who want to become a lawyer or judge. Moreover important is also the modern musical notation that was born and codified in Italy and used universally.
Abolition of death penalty was also single handedly pushed by us
It's the napoleonic code now , not the roman law
The Roman law was written by Justinian though. It was brought to Europe through the Byzantine "colonies" of Bologna and Ravenna, but it isn't a product of the Roman Empire as we imagine it. Justinian was the last Latin speaker Emperor in an eastern empire that called itself The land of the Romans, but it did so in the Greek language.
Yep.
Brazil and Argentina probably have the biggest Italian-speaking communities outside Italy. There are a lot of immigrants and descendants there.
Y Estados Unidos tambien
@@ultraarg6615 los italianos fueron principalmente a eeuu, brasil y argentina, en ese orden. la diferencia es que eeuu y brasil eran países con mucha población.
Other European countries started exploring because they wanted to challenge Italy's (Venice and Genoa) monopoly on trade out of Europe.
In the case of Spain and Portugal, they were subject to a commercia blockade by the Ottoman Empire after the fall of the Caliphate of Granada. That commercial blockade made it difficult for the Spanish and Portuguese to trade with Asia, so they had to look for alternative routes, leading to the discovery of the Americas and the creation of alternative commercial routes between Asia and Europe via Africa
@@TheJosman Yes, but the point is that Venice and Genoa were free to trade in the Ottoman Empire.
The Venetian Bailo (ambassador) in Istanbul was the most important European personality in the city and the biggest contact between the Ottoman Empire and the other Western countries that had no embassies in Kostantinyee on a regular basis.
The Rioplatense Spanish spoken in Argentina 🇦🇷 is heavily influenced by the Italian language 🇮🇹
En realidad, cuando los italianos emigraron a Argentina solo hablaban italiano una minoría, casi todos ellos hablaban distintos idiomas de distintas partes de Italia.
@@masn9997Como los padres y los abuelos del Santo Padre.
Cringe.
@@gondar6181 🪞
@@masn9997 si todos los tanos que vinieron acá hubiesen tenido como lengua el italiano y no los dialéctos itálicos, hoy argentina hablaría en italiano o en algún idioma mezcla del italiano con el español, similar al afrikaaner con el holandés
In all fairness latin is the ancestor of spanish, Portuguese, and french as well as italian so it's not as if the inhabitants of the italic peninsula didn't in some form or another spread their language to other parts of the world
Italian is pretty widespread in some other countries too, for example Croatia. Over here, it's much more commonly taught as a foreign language than, for example, French, which is common elsewhere in Europe. Not to mention the native Italian speaking communities in Istria, and the local dialects which have many Italian loanwords.
Same can be said for languages that have left a profound impact on world history but were "early" to the colonisation game.
Like Arabic or Persian for example.
Once saw a stand up comedian mentioning how you'll find Italians pretty much everywhere in the world. I think he was Italian as well, because the next thing he said was "You know why that is? It's because we'll f*** anybody, that's why.". Don't know just how true that is, but I thought it was funny.
What about Eitrea?I don't know how many speak Italian....
Only the elders in Eritrea speak Italian, the official language is not Italian
Lot of people speak Italian in Eritrea, but is not official.
here in argentina we speak spanish but we use a lot of italian words (like "gamba", meaning leg), or "spanished" italian words (like "facha", from italian faccia, -face- meaning "good looking")
I went to Albania a few years ago alot of them speak Italian as a third language wellas Albanian and English. Alot of Italian influence i noticed
Latin is an Italian language. It's the basis for French, Spanish and Italian. It also has contributed greatly to English. So languages based on Languages that originated in the Italian Peninsula are spoken in like half of the worlds nations.
English is a germanic language with a lot of latin borrowings but that doesn't make it a latin language anymore than it makes it a German one.
All of which he says exactly at the end of the video.
@Zerzzoq but the most used vocabulary are of German origin. Kann Ich Sie helfen? Meine name ist Rebecca. Even if you don't speak a word of German you can translate both those sentences. You can't do that with any sentence written in Latin which should explain why linguists class English as a Germanic language and Not as a Romance (latin) language.
@Zerzzoq just to explain something that I said earlier. While it's certainly true that English has borrowed a lot of words from Latin, the most used words in English are German. If you were to write something down or speak a sentence 70% of the words that you use on average would come from German. Additionally, the grammar that you used to organize those words would come from German. This explains why English is classed as a Germanic language by linguists.
@@rebeccaorman1823 Dude, we have more in common with the frogs than with germans, you overestimate the german influence in our modern english, that could be true in middle ages but not nowadays
Italy and Germany became a unified state around 1860 ,so they didn't have time to create a colonial empire . France ,England and Spain were for centuries colonial powers.
This is good to hear.😆
Italian is widely spoken in other places, like: Slovenia, Croatia, Malta, Lybia, Eritrea, Ethiopia, USA, Canada, Somalia, Brazil, Argentina, Australia and other parts of Europe.
And I love it that way.
Not a single person in Ethiopia speaks Italian.
@@BeryAbyou don't know every single person in Ethiopia
They do not talk italian in lybia, eritrea,ethiopa, america, canada, somalia,brazil , argentina. Those who claim that they are italian americans do not know how to talk italian
I think that in Spain, Romania, Albania, Malta there are many Italian speakers. like 5% to 25% can hold a decent converation.
In Greece we use some italian words as our own, like: lampa (lamp or lightning bulb), lista (list), luccetto (locker), maestro, margarita, marca (mark), mascella (fake elderly teeth), moderno (modern), mostraro (show-off), fazza (face), balla (baΙΙ), blocco (block), bocalle (bottle), bravo, brio (joy), budla (non-sence talking), parla (non-sence talking :) again), buio (crowding, overcrowded) biscotto (biscuit), banda (band), porta (door), calza (sock) etc
In Paraguay we use some italian words due to the influence of influence of italian inmigrants laburo (lavoro) ayornamento (aggiornamento) coso (coso) cucheta (cuccietta) crocante (crocantte) manyar (mangiare) aspamento (spamentu) and many others
H dhmotikh glossa exei polles italikes lexeis, perissoteroi Ellhnes den xeroun oti einai italikes giati mpainoun sta ellhnika kata th mesaionikh periodo
@@antoniousai1989 είναι και πολύ πιο απλές από τις ελληνικές. Ποιος λέει για παράδειγμα θύρα αντί για πόρτα??
@@maximilianrhinestone1024 nai, kai uparxei polles italikes lexeis an milas gia fagito, foremata kai pragmata tou spitiou!
In Libya, Italian is just some vocabularies
That's kind of what I thought, but it's nice to know the details.
Italian is relatively common in Malta
The vast majority of Maltese people claim to have some proficiency of it.
@@barrankobama4840 that's interesting if true
@@billypathy We can't known for sure, since is a statistic based on self declaration, not an actual language exam.
Its reasonable that there is common knowledge of Italian since Italian was co-official with English in Malta till 1932 and most of Maltese historical newspapers were in Italian, the local University used Italian until the late 30s and until the 2000s many people in Malta were watching Italian television.
Like Germany which became a country ca. the same time. Tho Germany managed to get some notable colonies (and lose them after WW1).
I wounder why italy wasn't part of The Berlin Conference
@@alfsleftnut9224 They were probberbly not invited. Just for the big guys.
@@DJPJ. What are you talking about? Italy was present at both the Berlin Conferences 1878 and 1884!
Open a history book..
@@lucaesposito6896 I was answering the previous answering, which is clearly visible.
I’m Libyan my late grandma grew up under Italian colonization and spoke fluent Italian even tho she was illiterate
Libya, Eritrea, Somalia and Ethiopia all removed Italian as an official language due to reasons I don’t need to explain, but other than those countries Italy never really had much of a colonial empire, thus the language never really spread. Also before the 1860s there was not really any such thing as an “Italian language”. All the separate precursor states before unification had their own languages and upon unification the Tuscan language was designated as “Standard Italian and began to be taught as the national language across the whole country, the other languages still exist but the Italian government considers them dialects even though they can be mutually unintelligible with each other leading to a massive debate in Italy between regional and national governments.
Also it should be 2 3/4 countries that speak Italian as Vatican City has Italian as one of two official languages and San Marino has Italian as the sole official language.
The kingdom of Italy never adopted the Florentine language as standard Italian, they adopted this strange language that was in the works of creation from the 13th century, thanks to Dante, Boccaccio, and Petrarca
Manzoni, then, somehow convinced Italy to adopt his Italian as the official language, so Italian wasn't the Florentine language, but a different one all together
@@tuluppampam Manzoni was actually promoting a more strict "Florentinisation" of standard Italian ("lavare i panni in Arno" he said) and not all proposals really won the favour of speakers, while Italian as developed by Dante and then evolved over the following 5 centuries was more a Florentine-based koine of many dialects.
Italian was the official language of all pre-unification Italian states. The claim is quite ridiculously ignorant. There is a massive corpus of literature in Italian before the XIX century and a lot of Italian words currently used in English were adopted before the 1860s (I guess you have heard of instruments called "piano" or "cello" of that an ensemble of instrument is called an "orchestra").
Italian didn't spread to any extent into Ethiopia because Italy held the country for too brief a period for that to happen, but to say the language didn't stick in Libya, Eritrea and Somalia for "reasons I don't need to explain" isn't truly fair, considering Italy behaved in Africa as every other European power did back then yet English, French, Portuguese, Spanish and a descendant of Dutch are still spoken by plenty of people on the continent.
@@barrankobama4840 my point is that Italian was no longer what was the current Florentine language, but you're right in many aspects
Ps: it's "lavare i panni in Arno"
Toronto Canada has the largest Italian speaking population of any city outside of Italy. Yes, more than even New York.
Not only New York City has more Italians than Toronto, also Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires, Rome, Milan and Naples do.
@@barrankobama4840 I said *_outside of Italy_* Rome, Milan and Naples are obviously *_not_* outside of Italy. Second, I said Toronto has the largest Italian *_speaking_* population. Not simply Italian ancestry. I know it used to be true, but my searches are inconclusive.
although italian is the official language only in italy, or some other microstate around, the italian music and film industry from the 50s to the 90s was the third in the world immediately after the united states and uk for sales and listeners. the Italian language can work even without other countries speaking it.
I would love to see a video about German too. It have its global importance too. It’s also heavily related to other minor languages like Dutch and Norwegian even if they are not intelligible.
German the the Holocaust language ah no
Dutch is no minor language. Together with Afrikaans (a Dutch dialect) around 50M speakers.
For me if want to learn a new language, Italian can be unique answer unlike Spanish which I noticed there are types of Spanish from Mexico and South American countries also can be very confusing to me. Therefore, I think learning Italian will not confuse everybody to learn especially the pronunciation part.
There seems to be notable dialectal variety, though... (With Sardinian basically being its own unique language...)
Italy and Germany became unified countries in 1860 and 1871 respectively but before that there were a number of petty Italian states (Tuscany, Venice, Sardinia, Genoa, etc.) and German states (Prussia, Bavaria, Hannover, Holstein, etc.)
Both Italian and German languages are made up of numerous dialects that are not mutually intelligible with each other ✌️🍹
I'm not sure I'd call Prussia and Venice "petty states".
Sardinia wasn't a Italian states, the savoy use a Sardinian states for his "games"
@@riccardosebis5333 Prima era spagnola e ancora prima genovese e pisana.
La lingua ufficiale era lo spagnolo e la lingua 'colta' il sassarese, che ha una notevole influenza italiana.
Da come parlate a volte la Sardegna sembrerebbe nell'estremo oriente o giù di lì
@@paolox2458 prima di tutto la, sardegna non era pisana e genovese, solo alcune citta caddero sotto l'influenza (di famiglie più che altro combinate con quelle locali) ma ridicola rispetto a quella spagnola, il sassarese è di origine corsa, ti ricordo che non dovete generalizzare e che l'isola ha la sua identità, ed essere isola non significa essere un premio di qualcuno, sembra che a volte dobbiate informarvi meglio
@@riccardosebis5333 origine corsa cioè italiana, senza alcun dubbio, e non venire a snocciolare le sciocchezze francofile sulla specificità della Corsica.
Sono informatissimo, come ha detto padre Dante su un dannato sardo, non è italiano ma ad un dipresso.
Un quarto dei sardi sono sardo-italici, un altro quarto parla solo italiano, poi ci sono i tabarchini e i corsi.
Vedi te
This is true. Outside of italy land area & switzerland, italian is not a official language of any country nationally. Only spoken in a small part of switzerland. From western european & romance languages, italian is the least known. Other languages are nationally known in other countries. And i do not count a few individuals that somebody might maybe meet in another country
What about Sloviena's beach city, Western Croatia (Coastal Croatia) and Corsica isle? They are also Italian speakers.
They don't speak Italian. They speak dialects of the Italian group of languages.
Dutch is official in 6 countries (4 outside of Europe), and Afrikaans is official in South Africa and recognised in Namibia. So total official = 7, recognised = 8 I would say.
Unless you don't count Curacao, Aruba and Saint Martin as countries and, of course, Afrikaans isn't really Dutch, then you are left with three.
@@13tuyuti Which would be strange, because within the Kingdom of the Netherlands there are four countries. And we are talking about countries with Dutch as their official language.
@@13tuyuti Afrikaans is Dutch. They are the same related als Portugese from Brazil and from Portugal.
@@biggiecheese9537 haha barely? Dont talk bs. If you dont speak Dutch on the islands especially the abc islands you will never be successful and/or live on the streets. Only the uneducated don't speak Dutch and the islanders frown upon it. The more well educated and succesfull the people are, the more Dutch they speak. Hence all good jobs require Dutch.
@@dpassch7 oke. I extended my message
Italian is also official language in parts of Croatia and Slovenia
Not in croatia.
Croatian is the only official language.
I think the term you're searching for is a minority language.
Article 12 of the constitution states that the official language in Croatia is Croatian, but also states that in some local governments another language and Cyrillic or some other script can be introduced in official use.
The Italian language is an official minority language in Croatia, with many schools and public announcements published in both languages. Croatia's proximity and cultural connections to Italy have led to a relatively large presence of Italians in Croatia. Italians were recognized as a state minority in the Croatian Constitution in two sections: Istrian Italians and Dalmatian Italians. Although only 0.43% of the total population is Italian by citizenship, many more are ethnically Italian and a large percentage of Croatians speak Italian, in addition to Croatian.
As of 2009, the Italian language is officially used in twenty cities and municipalities and ten other settlements in Croatia, according to the European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages. It is an officially recognized minority language in Istria County, where it is spoken by 6.83% of the population on the aggregate and closer to 50% of the population in certain subdivisions.
@@FinestFantasyVI I have nothing to add, you make my case for me: You start by saying Croatian is the only official language, and end with saying Italian is officially used in twenty cities and municipalities.
@@eljanrimsa5843 Yea, officially as a minority language. Like Im a croatian. No one in Split really speaks italian. I went on to learn the language when i was 20 and in Italy.
Also I would like to make changes to my wikipedia quote. I would say 20 locations in Istria are more befitting as its used much more frequently there.
@@FinestFantasyVI italian or the istriot language
@@FinestFantasyVIin istria la lingua ufficiale insieme al croato è l'italiano, come in alto Adige il tedesco o in valdaosta il francese in Italia, a livello regionale è una lingua ufficiale.
San Marino, Switzerland, itlay, Vatican city and Malta.
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Oh absolutely!
Italian is the most beautiful language, imo
Grazie
and the most beautiful country
I'd say the closest thing to an Italian colony in the Americas is Argentina, most of the population has some sort of ancestry from there and their dialect of Spanish sounds kind of Italian, including the gestures.
There are lots of people in argentina that actually speaks a close variation of Venetian,an italian sub-language
@@SuPoddighe "sub-language" ?
Which is unfortunate.
Argentina is Spanish
argentina they talk spanish
i watched the whole video, it is really strange fact. To answer the titles question, many many counties (including my country, Greece, which on paper we consider Italy as a super friendly, neighbouring country). Despite that, most kids and adults learn as 3rd language German or French and as fourth Spanish or Italian. Thats even more strange, considering the fact that most counties follow suit and follow the same pattern. (I learnt Greek-> English-> German-> Spanish. i barely know some Italian and French words but cant understand it nor make a full sentence grammatically, vocabularly and on syntaxis correct. Sending many kisses and lots of love to all counties mentioned, ive visited all of the 5 of them (once) and many more.
You know thousands of words that are from the Italian language. The Δημοτική γλώσσα has tons of them, you just don't know that they are Italian.
Also, historically, you had more links to England than Italy, the Venetians were seen as Catholic assholes for most of your shared history. The whole "una razza una faccia" is bullshit, maybe true between you and Sicilians. I live in Athens and I don't feel many cultural similarities with the Greeks.
Bravo pat
As someone who's British-Swedish (part British and part Swedish), I can kind of relate to how Italians must feel about not having a globally recognised language
Whilst English is very much a well known language, Swedish isn't and not many people outside of Sweden or Scandinavia speak or understand Swedish
English is dominant in Sweden as a second language by most Swedes. University is in English and speak it better then the Brits.
No, we don't care, so you can't feel the same, ROFL. There is a good chunk of our population that doesn't even actively speak Italian in their everyday life. It would be silly if we were proud of our language on such a level.
Only news anchors and journalists speak and write in proper standard Italian (sometimes, not even them).
@@antoniousai1989 lol
I think it was too similar to spanish as a language. So when italian emigrants left for the new world, it was incredibly easy for them to learn and intigrate, so they mostly did. Hence argentina not speaking italian instead of spanish.
as an italian, i see all colonialist countries speaking romance languages as a totally win. W trajan
Don't forget Malta and the Sovereign military order of Malta use Italian as well
My understanding was that Ethiopia wasn’t colonized in the traditional sense. But rather occupied by Italy
I mean I agree. Italy didnt colonize anything. It was occupation. Since it was all around Musolini's era. The Albania stuff too. It was a brief ww2 occupation.
Yes!
@@FinestFantasyVIIt's not true, Eritrea, Somalia, Libya were Italian colonies even before the arrival of fascism.
@@lorenzobianchini4095 he is right about ethiopia not being colonized however
@@lorenzobianchini4095 a loro piace pensarla così
Japanese language too has a similar fate like Italian. Though Japan used to be a military power and managed to spread territorial expansion to most of Asia, the empire was short-lived, together with the effort of spreading the use of Japanese in every occupied territories through education system administrated by the Japanese occupational authorities. Atter Japan lost in 1945, Japanese language were no longer taught in those occupied territories, losing cultural influence to English instead. Nowadays, despite not being in the Top 10 most spoken languages in the world nor being one of UN official languages, Japanese successfully became one of the most popular languages for non-native learners to study due to pop-cultural popularity like anime and manga. Italy should learn from Japan on how to popularize Italian since Italian actually are much easier to learn for non-natives compared to the Japanese which are quite difficult and yet still managed to have a number of dedicated non-native learners.
Vieze Jappen, opgedonderd uit ons Indië.
we are not degenerates so we can't appeal to masses like that. People don't want to hear about history and accomplishments and inventions and stories and beauty, so naturally only a niche has the will to know italy and they love it. The countries who had access to our culture have always LOOOOVED italians, look at the AMAZING homage russians did for new year's with Ciao 2020 and Ciao 2021. What could be done is show how much better some things are in italian, because they were naturally italian rooted, like Harry Potter, to bring interest in and then show them everything else, they'll surely fall in love, but why do something in italian and spend time learning it when you can do it in english?
In a sense it makes the ones that appreciate italy more special 👍
Italy is quite popular in Japan its quite funny to see Italy appear in Japanese media as a Italian/Japanese person programs like JoJo as enjoyable and reignited my interest in Italian language
there are two details your kinda missing. one is Italian city states were incredibly wealthy so had no motivation to leave the Mediterranean. places like Venice could have easily out navy England or Spain in the 1400's. and secondly central Europeans nations in general were more focused on eastern threats than western European nations. its easy to look back and assume going west was the smarter move as we know about all the wealth it lead to. but at the time it was a move of least resistance not a good strategy. it was simply easier to attempt to find better trade routes than to move east.
technically all the romance languages are dialects of Latin. So really a lot of people in speak a dialect of ancestral Italian 🧐
Interestingly German was almost the “official” language of the United States due to the large German population in Pennsylvania. Ultimately English won out.
The US has no "official" language in theory.
@@HalfEye79 I think you meant it has no official -->language legally but it does have have English as a default.
While the US had a lot of German speakers at the time of the Revolution it also had a lot of Dutch speakers. It had far more English speakers than either one. Anyway, German didn't almost become the United States official language. Not only doesn't the US have an official language, its never had one and the people at the time of its founding weren't interested in establishing one. There never was a discussion about an official language so it's impossible to say what would have happened if there had been. In my opinion they would have chosen English since as I already mentioned there were more English speakers than all the othet languages put together. Additionally, English was spoken through out the country where languages such as German were spoken only in certain areas. However, that's solely my opinion.
@@rebeccaorman1823 for what it's worth I concur whole heartedly, but being its Friday was a bit too lazy to type it out....
That's actually a myth.
Good video. Spanish of Argentina has very deep Italian influence, tho.