By now I sold most of my digital pedals… with the iPad I have way more processing power than any of these metal island minicomputers that they sell for almost the same price as an iPad, per pedal… I use mostly Tonebridge and miRack at this point, for me it’s fun to create my own effects this way.
I use SketchCassette2 for this stuff. Not free but not expensive and I love the sound. Not a tape machine but cassette player. The same company has Digitalis which is great for stuff like this.
Chow Tape is an amazing plug-in. I never used it for lo-fi stuff myself, but for more subtle tape effects which it can do very good as well. For lo-fi stuff I usually go for iZotope Vinyl. Also free, and does the whole vinyl degrading thing quite well. Not quite the same, but in the same ball park.
Mood is my favorite effect right now. Maybe it’s the combination of the two sides but it would be hard to replicate. However if anyone can it’s this guy right here
I'm still recovering from not winning the serial number 00001 Gen Loss in the recent Chase Bliss giveaway. So thank you for the GAS therapy sir! I salute you! ♥
Amazing video! Thanks, this made my day. I'm already playng with it. Would be amazing in the future to see a similar video with other famous Chase Bliss, like Mood or Habit, which I'm trying to replicate with no great success
when I found out this pedal was released the first thing I thought of was the chow tape model!!! im so glad someone is spreading the word, I love all yr content, art shouldn't be so damn expensive
Thanks, I've been using Chow Tape in ios for about a year, it's great. Will def download for my studio and portable computer. Watching your vid now, I hope you mentioned there is a donate button on all their plugins. I've donated on all their plugs.
The latency is definitely in there and at a fixed variable purposefully, it causes a chorus effect but yeah has the unfortunate side effect of doubling percussive sounds also. Chase bliss recently released and alternate firmware where it tightens the latency to be more of a flange type effect and sounds better on drums. Also maybe worth noting spread is only autopan in the classic mode, in the normal mode it is the failure algorithm being run twice for a true stereo image effect. (I should note I don't own or plan on owning a gen loss mk1 or 2)
Have been debating this pedal for months, but the latency is a dealbreaker. Very surprised other reviewers haven’t mentioned this. I do think that digital pedal makers need to start publishing latency and A/D/A specs more explicitly. I tend to stick with analog pedals for this reason. Thanks for an excellent video.
I'm not sure how you could do this in a pedal without some latency due to the processing. Old tape cassette recorders that are semi-broken with wow & flutter issues are tools I use a lot, though not each item for long as they often break beyond use, and I don't see how any pedal could process the input instantly to give the effect. As to the accuracy of the stereo image on the pedal, it's not like any of the stereo cassette decks I've used, there was much more irregular warping on the alternate stereo channel. but for mono purposes it's very accurate for vcr recordings and it's in the ball park accurate for any semi-broken cassette decks I have used, for a pedal.
nice useful content, great conclusion. Really one of the best "gear oriented" channel that could be. Another one would be loopop demos, and the one i haven't found yet dealing with environmental cost of music production
I really appreciate how keen you are on deconstructing “Expensive Thing X” down to its different bits without the glossy veil that shills usually give them.
Hi Michael! I think what you are doing is wonderful! I have almost lost my faith in good gear content on youtube, when I finally found your channel. Your videos are great and clever, they are like breath of fresh air in the world of musical gear where everybody are just making commercials for overpriced gear and praise overconsumption. Thank you!
Earned a sub for pointing out my favorite thing to point out to gear hoarders; all digital pedals are selling you cheap, low power computers for way too much money. An iPad will run ALL the effects I could stand to stack on top of each other and only generate latency one time for a lot less money.
I have recently been fascinated with the pedal effect market, it seems to me a driving factor is pure aesthetics, which is totally legit but its lead me to wonder how often the price reflects closely to the labor put into creating this or that effect. as an example I can appreciate a hand built point to point analog circuit and understand well why it's price is what it is, the same is true for a well laid out pcb inside a beautiful enclosure, but somewhere in there is a bunch of wiggle room where one is bound to ask what they can get away with in pricing. It's not the fault of the pedal builder, or the buyer of course, they're both confined by market forces (for better or worse) Your ethos is akin to the DIY mentality and I love it (well no, it is DIY, Your sampler is great!) , it forgoes any trickery our minds might be subjected to by mojo parts and good youtube marketing demos, it drives at the heart of what it is we, or at least I am aiming for, to make art how we want to make it.
The truth is you can promote a product however you want. If it's a small run guitar brand, then you can say it's built or designed by someone who also plays bit guitar, then promote it as a master built line, limited universally and sell it at $10000+, but in reality they're just a different guitar, trying to grab as much money as you have. And I just choose the way I like the most.
Oh btw, I believe those PCB boards are all created by CNC machine, including soldering, can be super cheap with batch run, only assembling requires human labour, which can also be super cheap if you do it in Asia, with $150 we can assemble you an iPhone.
You rock. Thank you so much for this series. I have been buying way too many guitar pedals recently and I will definitely be using your videos to get my sounds!
Hi this is great. I've just discovered your channel. I work mainly in analogue. I can't justify the price tag of many of these sort of pedals. I struggle with PC's and digital tech/menu's. This looks super simple to operate. I'm really looking forward to watching more.
A cheap vibrato and tremolo pedal chained together will do the trick as well. I use a TC Electronic Tailspin and a Marshall Vibratrem, which cost me 50 euros together
Sure feels good to crack open all these black boxes to see how they work and how to improve upon them. Way better than shelling out hundreds of dollars over and over in hopes of the big music corps deciding to actually solve things for us. Long live DIY.
We need a series for pocket operators. I love their simplicity and how I can easily trigger effects and record over it, changing patterns, etc. Also, we have a shortage of tonic, and I want one. I need some therapy.
Awesome. I love people not only explaining how to do something cheaper/for free, but explaining what is actually going on too. Any tool you actually know how to use is more useful than one you barely understand after all. More folks need to do exactly what you're doing. I salute you. On a personal note: I remember looking at the prices for a LoFi Junky pedal and realizing I could buy multiple multi-effects pedals for the price of one LJ and recreate the sound with any one of those. An old digitech RP100 (one of the most scoffed at pedals among snobs) cost me $60 and was way, way more useful even JUST for that one effect, let alone the practically infinite other combinations. I know there's a Zoom pedal that's a bit better too, but this one is totally fine.
First time hearing this band, so I checked their music and video. Damn they're just soooooo cool! And their way dealing with pedals are so freaking practical, and looks cool too!
Imagine not sitting and fiddling with your pedals for hours to find what you need :P joking of course. this was really cool! roommate and I saw a video for that pedal and we were shocked it was 400 bucks. Gonna have to check out your other GAS videos!
I like the VST effects but then there is something about using and external effects unit that just feels right I’ve been thinking about using a external mini pc of some sort load up a VST and use that instead and give a small display like a 5 inch if it’s possible it would blow my mind to have something like that that can load any vst effects as an external unit
Indeed there were hardware vst player device concepts in the past: Muse Research Receptor and a bit later the SM Pro Audio V-Machine was released. The devices were just x86 hardware platform based devices running Linux. For today, it is better to stick to an ipad or macbook air. No annoying fans and much more power with arm silicons.
I'll for sure be grabbing this, thank you. Have you looked at what's going on under the hood with the Dark World pedal by any chance? I had it a while back and really enjoyed it for one sound but with it being so one dimensional I couldn't really justify its price so sold it. Maybe I can get something similar combining Chow Tape with some reverbs. Cheers
Wow 25ms latency of the pedal is just too much. My maximum comfort zone is 6ms. 10ms is already annoying to me. Something extra, the CHOW plugins are open source and some of them are incorporated into SurgeXT synth. You should also check that one out!
Love your videos. This one is great. If you’re taking requests for more pedal emulations, I would like to see your take on a Strymon Big Sky pedal. I love their sound, but too expensive for me. Keep up the great work👍
Chase Bliss just announced a low latency firmware update ua-cam.com/video/fPuoYbzQk6s/v-deo.html
A perfect story about how negative review benefits customers eventually.
By now I sold most of my digital pedals… with the iPad I have way more processing power than any of these metal island minicomputers that they sell for almost the same price as an iPad, per pedal… I use mostly Tonebridge and miRack at this point, for me it’s fun to create my own effects this way.
Every video I’ve seen of yours is 🔥. Thanks for your work.
I'd love to see your take on the Microcosm. Excelent content as always!
That would be amazing!
Oh I'd love to see that!
Yes please. Have play with Bleass Granulizer to achieve that type of thing. But I to broke to be able to test the real thing.
You’re the first person to mention the audio latency issue! Thanks for another great video!
I'm the bad guy.
@@playpm favorite villain
The timing of this video is crazy…. Saw CB just today released a firmware update to fix the latency
This is how bad review benefits customers.
Not even remotely the first person to mention it. He literally embedded another video demonstrating the issue.
Loved the video, hope you cover Hologram Microcosm next.
I use SketchCassette2 for this stuff. Not free but not expensive and I love the sound. Not a tape machine but cassette player. The same company has Digitalis which is great for stuff like this.
Chow Tape is an amazing plug-in. I never used it for lo-fi stuff myself, but for more subtle tape effects which it can do very good as well.
For lo-fi stuff I usually go for iZotope Vinyl. Also free, and does the whole vinyl degrading thing quite well. Not quite the same, but in the same ball park.
Mood is my favorite effect right now. Maybe it’s the combination of the two sides but it would be hard to replicate. However if anyone can it’s this guy right here
The mood is so cool, and it is on sale as of May 15, 2023. I would like to see it replicated
I'm still recovering from not winning the serial number 00001 Gen Loss in the recent Chase Bliss giveaway. So thank you for the GAS therapy sir! I salute you! ♥
Chow Tape Model is a fantastic plugin. Thanks for this video, you have probably saved some people from wasting their money!
I love your dry sense of humour. Another great video. Best wishes.
The chow wow is a simple sine wave pitch mod, tape doesn’t sound like that, it’s more random 🤷🏻♂️
Amazing video! Thanks, this made my day. I'm already playng with it. Would be amazing in the future to see a similar video with other famous Chase Bliss, like Mood or Habit, which I'm trying to replicate with no great success
Great Michael, you’re doing fantastic work!
Appreciated, cheers~
wow that latency is kind of mind blowing
when I found out this pedal was released the first thing I thought of was the chow tape model!!! im so glad someone is spreading the word, I love all yr content, art shouldn't be so damn expensive
You should show us how to turn all this shit on and off with our feet tho
Very informative video, and helped me with avoiding an expensive pedal, which I instead used to purchase an upgraded delay pedal. nice
Dope!!! Thank you
This therapy is real. Thank you.
Just discovered your videos today. Watched 3 already, and love the style and info, thanks! This guy needs more subs, I'll be sharing
Appreciated for the support ❤️
Thanks, I've been using Chow Tape in ios for about a year, it's great. Will def download for my studio and portable computer. Watching your vid now, I hope you mentioned there is a donate button on all their plugins. I've donated on all their plugs.
Awesome, thank you. No one has mentioned the audio latency.
I think this is a fair and super helpful video! That being said, I'm still very glad that I ordered a Gen Loss.
The latency is definitely in there and at a fixed variable purposefully, it causes a chorus effect but yeah has the unfortunate side effect of doubling percussive sounds also. Chase bliss recently released and alternate firmware where it tightens the latency to be more of a flange type effect and sounds better on drums. Also maybe worth noting spread is only autopan in the classic mode, in the normal mode it is the failure algorithm being run twice for a true stereo image effect. (I should note I don't own or plan on owning a gen loss mk1 or 2)
Have been debating this pedal for months, but the latency is a dealbreaker. Very surprised other reviewers haven’t mentioned this. I do think that digital pedal makers need to start publishing latency and A/D/A specs more explicitly. I tend to stick with analog pedals for this reason. Thanks for an excellent video.
They literally posted an update this afternoon fixing the latency
I've got this pedal and notice no latency. Maybe it's fixed. If there's latency, it's in milliseconds and not noticeable.
@@davidpack4867 are you aware that 16ms latency is already considered substantial? again, milliseconds
I'm not sure how you could do this in a pedal without some latency due to the processing. Old tape cassette recorders that are semi-broken with wow & flutter issues are tools I use a lot, though not each item for long as they often break beyond use, and I don't see how any pedal could process the input instantly to give the effect. As to the accuracy of the stereo image on the pedal, it's not like any of the stereo cassette decks I've used, there was much more irregular warping on the alternate stereo channel. but for mono purposes it's very accurate for vcr recordings and it's in the ball park accurate for any semi-broken cassette decks I have used, for a pedal.
Congratulations. Great video. Very insightful!
nice useful content, great conclusion. Really one of the best "gear oriented" channel that could be. Another one would be loopop demos, and the one i haven't found yet dealing with environmental cost of music production
You deserve more views. Every pedal/gear demo should come with a link to this channel.
Appreciated, truth is my video will only hurt their sales, including their affiliate ones.
I really appreciate how keen you are on deconstructing “Expensive Thing X” down to its different bits without the glossy veil that shills usually give them.
I'm just a shill for cheap craps 😆
Hi Michael! I think what you are doing is wonderful! I have almost lost my faith in good gear content on youtube, when I finally found your channel. Your videos are great and clever, they are like breath of fresh air in the world of musical gear where everybody are just making commercials for overpriced gear and praise overconsumption. Thank you!
Appreciated, but don't expect too much, now my video also becomes commercials for my plugin 🙂
@@playpm appreciate your honesty! ;^)
ChowTapeModel is downloaded. Love your channel. It makes me sold half of my music gear (and bought other... but less expensive :)).
This would have saved me some money. Thank you for what you’re providing to the community!😊
your output is so pleasing to me!
This plugin is incredible! Thanks so much for the tip. Any chance you could try and do a GAS therapy for the Chase Bliss Habit pedal? 😂
Nice idea!
Just found your channel, love the video. You got a new subscriber!
Earned a sub for pointing out my favorite thing to point out to gear hoarders; all digital pedals are selling you cheap, low power computers for way too much money. An iPad will run ALL the effects I could stand to stack on top of each other and only generate latency one time for a lot less money.
Wow! Thanks for pointing this out 👌
For those who don't want to install the program can use inner extract to get the .dll out of the .exe ;)
Great video!
Thanks. I needed this pedal. Now I get it for free.
great video im wondering how would u recreate the THERMAE pedal its a delay unit similar to the cow from the op1
Appreciated. If you want a cow alter then check out my op1 video, I covered it already.
@@playpm ye I saw it but I think thermae is more interesting and unique
I have recently been fascinated with the pedal effect market, it seems to me a driving factor is pure aesthetics, which is totally legit but its lead me to wonder how often the price reflects closely to the labor put into creating this or that effect.
as an example I can appreciate a hand built point to point analog circuit and understand well why it's price is what it is, the same is true for a well laid out pcb inside a beautiful enclosure, but somewhere in there is a bunch of wiggle room where one is bound to ask what they can get away with in pricing. It's not the fault of the pedal builder, or the buyer of course, they're both confined by market forces (for better or worse)
Your ethos is akin to the DIY mentality and I love it (well no, it is DIY, Your sampler is great!) , it forgoes any trickery our minds might be subjected to by mojo parts and good youtube marketing demos, it drives at the heart of what it is we, or at least I am aiming for, to make art how we want to make it.
The truth is you can promote a product however you want. If it's a small run guitar brand, then you can say it's built or designed by someone who also plays bit guitar, then promote it as a master built line, limited universally and sell it at $10000+, but in reality they're just a different guitar, trying to grab as much money as you have.
And I just choose the way I like the most.
Oh btw, I believe those PCB boards are all created by CNC machine, including soldering, can be super cheap with batch run, only assembling requires human labour, which can also be super cheap if you do it in Asia, with $150 we can assemble you an iPhone.
I think this might be the first time I’ve seen a Marxist Theory of Labor Value critique in pedal UA-cam. ❤❤❤❤
You rock. Thank you so much for this series. I have been buying way too many guitar pedals recently and I will definitely be using your videos to get my sounds!
I asked for this! Feels great seeing its out! Thank you:)
I've been looking for a channel that does exactly this!
Awesome stuff!!! Can you do more of these for Chase Bliss?
Maybe later, I'm working on a much bigger project right now, stay tuned 🤫
U are our HERO Robin Hood ...we love u man
Please do ChaseBliss Blooper 🙏🏼. Your channel is awesome
Azimuth: You said it correctly. I love and appreciate this content brother!
Help ! I would need a Gas therapy video for the CXM 1978 !!!
Hi this is great. I've just discovered your channel. I work mainly in analogue. I can't justify the price tag of many of these sort of pedals. I struggle with PC's and digital tech/menu's. This looks super simple to operate. I'm really looking forward to watching more.
Hahahaha the setting change on the pedals when you play the guitar killed me :D
love these!
A cheap vibrato and tremolo pedal chained together will do the trick as well. I use a TC Electronic Tailspin and a Marshall Vibratrem, which cost me 50 euros together
The Vibratrem is kinda crappy tbh but I've no need to spend big bucks on an EQD Hummingbird or whatever
the little metal boxes on the ground make more sense in the live setting, but love this michael
Appreciated, you'll feel the anger when you're trying to step on 3 nails at the same time lively just for changing a preset 🙃
I use Chow Tape all the time but I love the idea of the physicality of a pedal.
Sure feels good to crack open all these black boxes to see how they work and how to improve upon them. Way better than shelling out hundreds of dollars over and over in hopes of the big music corps deciding to actually solve things for us. Long live DIY.
Was just hoping this video would get made!
We need a series for pocket operators. I love their simplicity and how I can easily trigger effects and record over it, changing patterns, etc. Also, we have a shortage of tonic, and I want one. I need some therapy.
I love what you do! I'm going to play around with that plug-in soooo much
Thanks Doctor for healing🤕
You're amazing, thanks for this.
Great job
Love your comment about guitar pedals! Chow tape is also on iOS. As well as Caelum,s Tape pro +++
Chow Tape Model is the only one I can recommend here (since all the others don't run on my machines).
It's great!
Wow, thank you for sharing a really great alternative. Have you checked out Lossy?
You sir are amazing....
Appreciated
Chow tape is really good! Ive never purchased a lofi plugin, and with how many settings it has, I probably never will need to.
great video, and bonus points for Aldious riff :)
I love your videos - very entertaining and thoughtful 🤟
Is it possible to get an alternate video for the Chase Bliss Thermae?
Fantastic advice. Thank you so much.
ok now this is AWESOME
Chow Tape Model is such a good plugin!
I agree with all you say here Michael
Caelum Audio Tape thing is also great for LOFI
Thanks for doing this one. I was hoping for it
bravo 👏
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼Thanx!!!
You are The Man.
Dude you’re awesome.
Awesome. I love people not only explaining how to do something cheaper/for free, but explaining what is actually going on too. Any tool you actually know how to use is more useful than one you barely understand after all. More folks need to do exactly what you're doing. I salute you.
On a personal note: I remember looking at the prices for a LoFi Junky pedal and realizing I could buy multiple multi-effects pedals for the price of one LJ and recreate the sound with any one of those. An old digitech RP100 (one of the most scoffed at pedals among snobs) cost me $60 and was way, way more useful even JUST for that one effect, let alone the practically infinite other combinations. I know there's a Zoom pedal that's a bit better too, but this one is totally fine.
Chow tape is just ridiculous good
What about chase bliss habit? Can you replicate habit?
I remember the guitarist in Devo had an FX box duct taped to his guitar next to the guitar's knobs.
First time hearing this band, so I checked their music and video. Damn they're just soooooo cool! And their way dealing with pedals are so freaking practical, and looks cool too!
Are there any good iOS apps like Chow Tape? I like the idea of using AUM on my iPhone as an extra fxs pedal
Another good one is Lo-Fly Dirt for lofi stuff, you can also check it out. Also try Eventide ones, way cheaper than their hardware ones.
@@playpmThanks for the recommendations! I also got recommended DAW Cassette as well and I'm going to check that out too!
Imagine not sitting and fiddling with your pedals for hours to find what you need :P
joking of course. this was really cool! roommate and I saw a video for that pedal and we were shocked it was 400 bucks. Gonna have to check out your other GAS videos!
"Former Guitar player" I felt that.
Is that an 11 inch macbook? I have an old one but never though about using it for music because of the specs
13 inch, but the same generation I think, already enough for a simple song.
I have never put a pedal on the floor
Id like to address the Randomized functions, its hard to find out just exactly what the internal hardware is doing.
I like the VST effects but then there is something about using and external effects unit that just feels right I’ve been thinking about using a external mini pc of some sort load up a VST and use that instead and give a small display like a 5 inch if it’s possible it would blow my mind to have something like that that can load any vst effects as an external unit
Give it a try, pedals, amps, everything can be free.
Indeed there were hardware vst player device concepts in the past: Muse Research Receptor and a bit later the SM Pro Audio V-Machine was released. The devices were just x86 hardware platform based devices running Linux. For today, it is better to stick to an ipad or macbook air. No annoying fans and much more power with arm silicons.
I'll for sure be grabbing this, thank you. Have you looked at what's going on under the hood with the Dark World pedal by any chance? I had it a while back and really enjoyed it for one sound but with it being so one dimensional I couldn't really justify its price so sold it. Maybe I can get something similar combining Chow Tape with some reverbs. Cheers
Thanks, sounds great.
So…you’re saying I can get all these sounds combined in just one pedal, and put my guitar through it? Sweet! Gotta get one. Thanks!
Wise advice again. The pedal costs a minimum of twice the price of Michael’s MacBook Air (which he told us was $200).
Did I mention my $40 guitar 🤓
Wow 25ms latency of the pedal is just too much. My maximum comfort zone is 6ms. 10ms is already annoying to me. Something extra, the CHOW plugins are open source and some of them are incorporated into SurgeXT synth. You should also check that one out!
@playmp First time seeing your channel. Where have you been? Love it!
Appreciated, I'm planning the next surprise for my viewers secretly, stay tuned 🤫
Love your videos. This one is great. If you’re taking requests for more pedal emulations, I would like to see your take on a Strymon Big Sky pedal. I love their sound, but too expensive for me. Keep up the great work👍
We'll definitely get there, new gem's coming, stay tuned 😉
Check out FAC Alteza. On sale for OS currently.
always on point man, better than a masterclass, keep going #kwality
Appreciated man, masters are not being called a master as a teacher in the first place lol.