I like my theory better, where Infinite is the cc from the future, and he comes back through time to fuck shit up and gathers all of sonics greatest villains to kill sonic.
MrKotorX Maybe cuz the future CC unlocked his powers and potenial by accident but wants to give his past self that power early so they'll actually be a hero and knows he can only do that without affecting himself by f**king up just about everything
I'm aware and still believe this theory to be a possibility. One thing I'm sure is that the custom character will learn more about themselves and possibly unlock this true potential I suggest.
Mr. Crypt not really it could be a usual "hidden potential than you realize" type of character we make as we start OUR adventure to find it most of the other cast easily is normal.
So Lyoko Gem: When Sonic does the Super-Peel Out, his legs make an Infinity sign. The Tail/Ears could ACTUALLY be a distorted version of a hedgehog tail/ears. The Mask, with it's fox shaped design, could be a tribute/reference to a dead comrade(Tails). The Infinite insignia looks like it could be a domino mask that could fit the same exact facial/eye positioning of Sonic's face. *which would be meta since both the insignia/mask are part of Infinite* The gem on the chest? Remember the blackened chaos emeralds during Sonic Adventure after Chaos became Perfect Chaos? And faster than Sonic. Barring gameplay/non in lore demonstrations, usually nobody is ever FASTER than Sonic. *Or maybe Infinite recognizes a certain some one's muscle memory since he knows it all too well.*
(Long analysis)Ok here's my theory on the lyrics of the sample main theme "Fist Bump" few things before I start: 1. This is a theory NOT a fact 2. I'm positive the Avatar concept isn't gonna be one and done. 3. The lyrics are NOT the full ones and more will be revealed on launch or early leaks. 4. It's obvious Classic Sonic will return to his dimension at the end but this Analysis is for the Avatar, Modern Sonic and Infinite again theory. 5. Still believe our Avatar will get a super form of some kind. Here we go: “I can’t do this alone Even though I am strong Need something more than me Someone to push me to victory” Sonic knows he can’t defeat Eggman, so he assembles a resistance. The part that interests me the most is “Someone to push me to victory”. Kinda sounds like he’s lacking hope, which would be pretty out of character of him but they are going a different tone in this game and leans toward our Avatar being that "someone to push him" “Let’s see what we can do Together me and you Can’t be afraid to try Kiss your fears goodbye” “No looking back You and I, we’re on the attack Full speed ahead Running to the sunset” Sonic teams up with our Avatar and motivates them. Considering Park Avenue’s lyrics being motivational as well. “Such a different feeling Both of us believing We can make it better” Either Sonic has seriously lost hope, or there’s some sort of connection between the Avatar and Sonic. “Together, we can show the world what we can do You are next to me and I’m next to you Pushing on through until the battle’s won” More motivational stuff going on. “No one’s gonna give our fate to us Into each other we put our trust Standing united After the fight” “Into each other” sounds a bit off…but this sounds like hope has been regained. “All alone, we will never be The two of us, are holding the key We see today, a world we couldn’t see” This likely refers to the ending of the game and everything is fine. Key is either metaphorical or a plot device we'll find out about, and “a world we couldn’t see” sounds like things are going back to normal. “Before I say goodbye to you, one last fist bump” Ok now THIS I already see many already took this out of context saying it implies "death of someone" on the official Sonic Channel which again was confirm not happening. So either our Custom Hero leaves at the end of the game, or they are literally A character and the whole “ordinary person” is just a cover up. If we’re going with the “Custom Hero is Infinite/a part of Infinite theory”, this likely refers to them merging with Infinite after his defeat becoming a whole perfect being since "he's" the other half of them and a possible return to OUR actual dimension instead of being from Sonics actual world. A cool nodd Sega can do for the anniversary game IF this is true and our Avatar is from another dimension like CS but never disclose what it is they can imply our Avatar is indeed US from our actual Earth regardless if you are a Guy creating a Female Avatar vice versa they are the embodiment of US and how we see ourselves in the game and Sonic thanks US for helping him would be very symbolic and very nice if true.
You rocked it, Splatoo! That's a great analysis. I think that you've got a lot of the right ideas here, specifically the emotional connection between Sonic and the custom character and how they pick each other up. And as for the last line, I didn't go to death. However, I didn't think that it could play into the theory. Amazing work, Splatoo!
Lyoko Gem yeah thanks! I got idea from NiGHTS and some other games on the last part and the focus slogan of the "Join the Resistance" I love when main theme songs in Sonic relate to the situation of the story this would be very well done with perfect execution!
Wow, that was a really great theory! I 100% agree But, I would like to take a different take at your ending. So, Infinite fuses with our character, and becomes Perfect Infinity. The two Sonics decide to go Super and try to free our character. Lending the chaos energy to our character that is now half of Infinite, a total mind break happens. Infinite and our character are fighting each other in one body to take control. Which one will prevail in the mind? Of course, it will be our character, thanks to the chaos energy. Once we take control, Perfect Infinity splits in two and our character comes out as a Super. Infinite, now having nothing else to do, decides to go into his "final form" as a last resort. The two Super Sonics and our Super character then finish off Infinite, and the day is saved. I know that this will not likely happen, but I think it's a much better take on the probable corny ending.
My theory is that Infinite is actually Mephiles the Dark. I mean, think about it. Just take a sec and look at Infinite's appearance. Does he or does he not low-key remind you of Mephiles? I think, according to my theory, what happened was Eggman must've gone back in time to revive Mephiles. With Mephiles revived, he and Eggman teamed up to gather up one of Sonic's past villains. Shadow the Hedgehog, on the other hand, is on Eggman Empire's side because Eggman and Mephiles probably brainwashed him. As for the mask, Eggman probably created that mask for Mephiles for some reason. Although, here's the plot twist: Eggman was actually being used by Mephiles. So, Mephiles is actually planning on destroying the world himself, along with the help of Sonic's past villains. Because, if you think about it, we might not see Eggman again later on in Sonic Forces. Plus, Mephiles also probably decided to go by a different name - Infinite.
I can see where you're going and while the villain does have resemblance to him, I don't think it's Mephiles. For one, it's a little hard to place Mephiles actual existence. The events of Sonic 06 have been erased and with it, so should've Mephiles, Iblis and in turn Solaris. Not only that but the whole nonsense of a human and animal dimension. Mephiles as a concept since he comes from 06 most likely exists in the human one and since Forces at the moment doesn't have any humans seen it's to be assumed that it takes place in the animal one. How Eggman would come across a power from another dimension is beyond me. And honestly, I just don't know if SEGA would wanna take the risk of referencing 06 in such a direct way. With how the game was received, I don't think they'd take that chance of directly referencing it that way other than as a joke. And if you ask about Lost World, it's split among the fandom and did decently which is why Zavok is present. But idk about Mephiles.
I think it would make more sense if Infinite isn't Mephiles, but related, for example, Infinite could be a re-creation of Mephiles, but like this: Mephiles>Time Eater>Infinite Think about it!
To be honest, I would like the custom character to have voice actors: one male and one female depending on the gender of the character the player chooses. I think it'll be interesting to have voices for this new custom character. I think this may be most likely added to this but also being able to name your character too. But I bet in the story they may not refer to your character by their name but by something like "kid" or "the rookie" or something like that.
The One Gibus Queen I read from other comments that there will be voices for the custom character, and I think there's three voices to choose from each gender. However, the custom character will only grunt.
you guessed it. the custom character is called "the rookie" in the game, but the official and/or most commonly used name is gadget, especcialy for the red wolf
I don't think they are related as the same person but they're from different dimensions that have opposite identical hidden powers (thus the 2 Deltas in the Forces Infinity symbol) Avatar being from Sonics main world. The fact that they are a "crucial element" makes it clear their/we're very important. Also Aaron already confirmed on live stream NOBODY DIES in Forces he obviously knows the story and obviously can't say anything else(I know you didn't say that talking about others that think this) don't see Sega going THAT dark especially for promoting US as one of the Hero/ine of the game plus it'll be another Wisp scenario when it'll be VERY well receive and becomes a staple especially since the massive fan request for 2 decades is one of the main reasons this concept exists in the first place (other characters if Sega choose can still be playable even with this new feature).
I'm not even sure of the relation myself. But I do think it's a possibility and this video is presenting why and if so, how it would come into play. I don't think death is in the cards. I doubt it anyway. We'll have to wait and see how things turn out.
What I gathered from the Infinite Trailer is that at the very least they know each other because our CC is trying to give him a fist bump but Infinite as he was just about to,pulled away his hand.
I only have one problem and that's with the new enter infinite trailer and his theme song the custom hero is seen trying to give Infinite a fist bump but infinite rejects it. My theory is that Infinite and the custom character are know each other on a level we haven't seen with a sonic villain and hero. Eggman and sonic know each out but it's a hatred for each other. No one knew what chaos was but Eggman, Shadow was locked away so sonic didn't know who he was till eggman set him free, Metal was built by Eggman to kill sonic, and I don't think eggman knew about the Deadly six and just got lucky when he found that magic shell. None of these villains have had a past with sonic till after sonic had to fight against him. Yet the custom hero tries to Fist bump the thing that caused Eggman to win? What if infinite and the custom hero are brothers? Infinite and the custom hero being related by blood would be an very interesting plot twist. The custom hero stays out of the conflict for as long as he can till because he loves his bother and doesn't want to hurt him but eventually he has to pick a side and sides with sonic. It's a theory that doesn't have much to go off of sense all I have really to work with is the one scene that's 3 seconds long of the custom character trying to fist bump infinite.
Redz The Ultra-Kard it could be part of a future game where it would be kinda be like the 2nd gameplay in Unleashed and have many endings like Shadow the hedgehog and have sonic fighting him but he can take control of him sometimes at random but it is a pretty good idea for a game
You know... Thinking about his theme... This actually COULD be very possible if you consider him as speaking to the Character (Specificly the chorus especially the line 'I nevr Lie and that's the difference in you and me') then it could be taking as him saying you and him are 2 sides to the same coin. The different being, while he accepts what he is, you run from it. He is what you COULD be if you accepted your true role. He is your power unlocked. Your full potential.
I also did some looking into Delta and change I found the Avatars themes in their stages have an inspiring tone of wanting change on the current situation so Infinite could be the opposite in ideals.
What if Infinite decided to betray Eggman to rule the world for himself? My theory since when Eggman discovers an ancient creature or teams up with another villian they betray him
Damn i would love that, it would make Infinite more than a tragic anti-villain, and instead turn into a Complete Monster. OR, what if he betrayed and manipulated every character to get him to the top...
StanleyHere TBH it would make a whole lot more sense if that happened in the plot of the story. Not only Eggman isn't powerful enough just like all the previous villains that Sonic faced before.
Lil' Skit. Infinite: Sonic never told you about me.. Your Character: He told me enough! He told me we are enemies! Infinite: No... You are my other half... Your Character: No... No.. That's not true! That's Impossible! Infinite: Search your energy, you know it to be true! Your Character: NOO!!!! NNNOOOOO!!!!
that part about him manipulating others, sounded unbelievably like the very way Mephiles worked in sonic 06, manipulating others, into doing what he wanted, with no care for their future, or outcome. As well with fusing with the custom character. beside all of that, Your theory sounds totally awesome! That and in the new infinite trailer, there is a short clip of infinite standing (actually floating) in front of the custom character. But I love your theory!!!! Its would be AWESOME!!!!
There's another detail in the symbol, the eight has one half smaller than the other, but when the two halves turn around to form the infinity, they're equal in size. Something about your OC's growth in character and power?
Oh, I now saw something in Infinite's shoe(?)pattern, his symbol has a glitch at the end. If you look at the rest of the circuit, it looks like it's forming the letters OC: vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/sonic/images/9/92/ENTINF27.png/revision/latest?cb=20170720171545 That's really clever of SEGA if this is deliberate.
Its dumb to say this but what if Infinite its actually OUR Version of character but from future that eggman was actually kindnap us and make us evil (i think he did that too to somebody) i mean that could make a bit sense since we still dont know how Classic sonic,mecha sonic and the rest came from. becase they could be defeated/dead by now since sonic defeated them IN THE PAST tho
I really think that's just a coincidence. I sincerely doubt that SEGA would make that happen on purpose. I mean think about it, the super peel-out happened in Sonic CD (1993). I don't really think they would have thought about Forces back then. There's a 23 year gap. (The super peel-out is when sonic runs with his legs like that infinite logo.)
This is a very nice Speculation. You might be right about the story, though I don't know if Sonic Team will go this route for the story. But, who knows. :)
i have a Theory what if those cubes give infinite the power to time travel and travel through dimensions and the custom character does to and the story revolves them trying to fix the past and The custom character brings classic sonic using that ability
@Lyoko Gem, that's sounds way to hard to make into a game but also your theory the "infinity" snake is called Ouroboros megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Ouroboros
What I think is that infinite was the prototype ultimate life form because biolizard can't be original ultimate life form biolizard is just provesser robotinks mind in a giant lizard
Lyoko Gem why thank you I actually think that it make since however so here is the story infinite was created by provessier robotink but was rejected and made shadow instead while the gun agents were atacking the space coleny ark infinite got power and became a computer until sonic shows up in the ark and since then infinite had a new enemy
Anybody think that our custom avatar COULD be the Sonic from our demension,meaning at the end of the game Classic goes back to Mania and Avatar goes back to the REAL World (I got that referance from a TV show called: The Adventures of Super Mario Bros.3) and before Avatar and Classic leave, they all fist bump, leaving they hope to meet again.
Your theory works surprisingly with SA1, Big the cat has a connexion with Chaos,his frog Froggy drinks a part of Chaos at the begining of the game 😂😂😂😂
My thoery is that Infinite has the power to control time. He will probably pull in Bosses throughout the story from different Sonic games. We got 6 of them(Eggman,Zavok,M. Sonic, Shadow,Chaos, and Infinite), next we might get bosses like Mephiles or Dark Gaia, or even Lyric. And to add to my previous thoery, Infinite will pull us into different timelines to fight Those bosses(like green hill).
If Infinite is the dark version of the OC then that could lead credence to the theory that events in Forces are the result of Silver traveling back through and helping to stop Mephilies and Solaris in Sonic 06.
ocs need to be a one time only thing. Things could get pretty weird (NOT in a good way.) if this becomes a staple like those stupid wisps replacing Sonic's actual friends.
While I agree that OCs shouldn't be a too regular thing, I wouldn't mind it showing up every now and again. Or even creating a set of spinoffs within the Sonic Universe for that sort of thing.
i wouldnt be suprised if park avaune was the first level in unlesasd u know the city stages but i feel like infinite has time travel powers because zavok was from lost world, shadow from adventure 2, chaos from adventure 1 and metal sonic from cd (even tho we see him like occasionally in other games)
AND beacuse sonic is based off of dragon ball z AND xenoverse had a custom character WITH a somewhat custom final boss that also had different villans from different series as "bosses"
Just a few things: 1. As a matter of fact, the Avatar _is_ a rookie -- this is mentioned in the Custom Hero Gameplay video on the Sonic the Hedgehog channel. While most of the Resistance is off at Chemical Plant Zone, the Avatar is sent elsewhere to create a distraction. 2. While Ouroboros _can_ be represented by the symbol of infinity, the Serpent is more often represented by a circle. This dates to the serpent motifs of the Ancient Egyptians, representing a snake eating its own tail. 2a. The symbol we use for infinity was first adopted by mathematician John Wallis. Unfortunately, he never explained where it was from or why he used it. The best guess is that it's a condensed form of one of the Roman numerals for 1000, CIƆ, or perhaps a variant of the Greek letter Omega. 3. The Avatar doesn't have special powers, sorry. The wisp powers are contained and controlled by the Wispon (wisp-weapon) on their arm, allowing them to use the color powers of the wisps (a la _Sonic Colors_) without having to physically contain a wisp inside their body. By comparison, Infinite is very definitely _not_ using a Wispon, but _is_ using a variation of the blue wisp's Cube power when it attacks. (It may have come into contact with a Nega-Wisp.) Which creates an interesting question: Is this the reason the Avatar has the wispon? To avoid coming into contact with a Nega-Wisp as Infinite did? And if so, how _are_ the two of them related?
1. I don't know, the Chemical Plant referred to in the level could possibly be the actual factory in the level. At first, I thought it was Chemical Plant Zone. But at the mention of them keeping the multi legged battle mech away from it and going wild and making a distraction so that they could keep it away from the Chemical Plant that is actually there. It could actually be Chemical Plant Zone but I think it might just be the one in the level. 2. During my research I found quite a bit of relationship between Ouroboros and the infinity symbol so I went with that. 3. I'm referring from a plot perspective. Imagine this happening in cutscenes and the confrontation between Infinite and the custom character as like a Super Sonic boss fight. Interesting, but idk. I mean from what is seen on what we think is the cover art for Sonic Forces, it looks like the custom character is wielding a Nega Wispon.
1. Fair enough. It's always hard to tell when they use such generic names for the levels... 2. Understood. That's a relatively modern application, though, just saying. Not inapplicable, and hey, maybe they went with it. Just consider me a font of somewhat useless information. ;) 3. Understood, though that would contradict Shun Nakamura's statement that the Avatar starts off as a "regular person" who then goes on an adventure with the Sonics. Assuming what Shun said is accurate, it looks like we don't get a Dark/Light Gaia setup this time. A nega-Wispon? (checks artwork) Hm. Possibly. Of course, cover art isn't always game-accurate (which is why I'm not that concerned over the Avatar apparently wielding a Violet Wispon), but it could certainly work. Personally, I consider it likely that the Avatar will realize that, once the timeline is restored, he'll have never been a hero at all. Of course, if he's at all worthy of the title, he'll make the sacrifice anyway, but still...
1. Exactly. It's hard to tell, but I think due to the context that it was not Chemical Plant Zone. At least, I hope not. Not that I don't like the level, but we just saw it in Generations and now Mania. I'm good. 2. Fair enough. 3. Gonna have to disagree here. Yes, he stated that the custom character is a "regular person." However, I don't believe that the character having hidden potential is far off. Like I stated in the theory is that the custom character doesn't know about their abilities and something or another over the course of Forces would trigger them. Say like a Percy Jackson sort of deal where oh yeah, you didn't know this but you're so and so... That's true. However, I'm pretty sure the Nega Wispon would be included somewhere, but yeah. Oooooo that's a good point. Sad, but true.
OMG WHAT IF HES THE SONIC PROTOTYPE Sonic was originally gonna be a bunny you know when he was scraped All of he's parts weren't gone....thus became an INFINITE glitch
Zexo Classic Sonic is confirmed to be from another dimension. As I said in another comment, I'm not feeling time travel anymore which I'll explain why in a future video.
If that were to happen,it'd probably more likely that the character goes "Hmmm,yeah,I think I'll take all of Infinite's power so he's not a threat and so I have no need for a Super Form"
First questions; how did eggman escape in the finale of generations? My theory on who is infinite; Maybe infinite is a ghost/ physical being made of evil or dark matter of the universe or earth. And all that evil on earth manifested into this being and how eggman hates sonic, the physical form was given as a hedgehog. So before it was a physical manifestation infinite was just a evil or dark energy. Maybe he existed millions of years ago, given his name infinite. But with a different physical form. Or infinite because their is infinite amount of evil or darkness. That's my theory, and he probably helped Eggman escape from the white "space" in the end of generations because he felt negative emotions being emitted from the space. (Do we know how eggman ecaped the white space in generations? Maybe lost world explains it, I don't know) What do you guys think of my infinite theory?
I do believe that the custom character/Avatar and Infinite/Mobius(As the logo twists from an eight to a infinity sign, it could be a Mobius strip, a one sided object, which, if made into a loop, has infinite length. You will never reach the edge of a side.) will in some way be connected, I don't think Sega'll go as far as fusing the two. The one thing Sega WON'T do is take control of your character away from you.
I considered looking into the Mobius Strip as well. But I supposed I decided to let that go and stick to Infinity itself. You've also got a point there. Hmmmmm
I dont think they will go so far as making it painfully obvious who infinite is with the toggable species thing. You may be related to him somehow...but it seems they are set on his looks, Species, And voice most of all.
I tbink who infinite is is the dark of your custom character he has the phantom ruby in him so he could have changed apprance and lost himself to the will of the ruby or its someone the xustom character knew like a friend who lost himself to the ruby
my theory is that infinite is the CC from another dimension cause in the e3 demo eggman makes a comment on how classic Sonic is from another dimension.....so what I think is going on is that infinite is going to other dimensions and destroying them in search for well .... infinite power and the CC in Sonic's dimension is just a regular person. but since in one universe he a very powerful being he might have some hidden power like is otherdimentionel counter part I also think that infinite sees that potential in our CC this he want to recruit him to rule over all together or destroy him in fear of our CC being more powerfull than he is again this all cause of that one eggman line from classic sonics portion otherwise this wouldn't be the case at all ...remember he said pint sized sonic from another dimension
like how does he know that classic sonic is from another dimension he either A saw him come from some portal B made an assumption (witch is the least likely ) or C infinite brought him along by mistake and eggman is working for it along side infinite
Just like Star Wars Infinite is Darth Vader And are Character Dan/Marisa is Luke Skywalker The Lightside is 8 The Darkside is ♾ It's either going down to ways Infinite is Victorious or Dan/Marisa is Victorious Either way balance is restored to the Force.
Lyoko Gem also a good theory in the comments tells how infinite could be meppalias (sorry for miss spelling that name) and I would like to add on to that, if it is him then he possibly got some features of the characters and DNA maybe (not counting metal) like some sort of fusion, shadows Chest hair, his um snake like hair in the back from zavock and the color of the eyes and HIS SHOES LIKE WHAT ARE THOSE, seems like a fusion of shadow and metal's shoes
Lyoko Gem Another fantastic theory. I like it, but there are few things that can be arguably awkward. Yes they do look similar, bit it's the eyes of Infinite that beg to differ. Not only that but the ears are drastically different in size and the idea that they are supposed to be two opposing forces that are balanced is also weird since there would need to be alot of potential tapping for that to come to be. I love this theory though. It's great, just like the last one. I believe that Infinite is similar to Mephilis in the terms of wanting the Custom Hero for a particular reason, but instead is doing what Mephilis tried to do to Shadow, convert him to his side and when Custom Hero decides to continue fighting against him, he, overall seeing how stubborn Custom Hero is, annhilates him. Possibly Infinite may sacrifice the All-Star Villains and Zavok as pawns. Such in the sense he puts the Sonics and Custom Hero in Battle Stasis with whichever All-Star Villain of his choosing, to the point where it is either permanently immobolize the villain or just sacrifice themself for the greater good. Like if they're all fighting against Chaos and Metal while Infinite constantly changes the Battle Conditions to where it is nearly impossible for the Sonics and Custom Hero to continue to hold back, so instead of immobilization, Classic Sonic decides "don't worry I can handle them" and lets Modern and Custom Hero move on, similar to how Naruto's friends fought one on one with those ninja preventing Naruto from getting to Sasuke. I love your theories. I can't wait to see another one. Keep up the great work.
Thanks. I have to say your right about the ears and all, but the idea that it might be a Dark and Light Gaia sort of deal I still hold onto. Whether or not it'll come to light, idk. But that's all the fun of making theories! You're never too sure as to what you'll get. With that being said, I think it would be really interesting if Infinite was after the custom hero the same way Mephiles was after Shadow and that would make for a pretty awesome plot. But still raises the question as to why he's interested in our custom character. Infinite's such a fun concept though and I'm just curious as to where they take him. And thank you so much for the support, it really means a lot to me.
I like my theory better, where Infinite is the cc from the future, and he comes back through time to fuck shit up and gathers all of sonics greatest villains to kill sonic.
The Quirky Monster but why
MrKotorX yeah exactly
The Quirky Monster who is cc?
the custom character
MrKotorX Maybe cuz the future CC unlocked his powers and potenial by accident but wants to give his past self that power early so they'll actually be a hero and knows he can only do that without affecting himself by f**king up just about everything
"these all-star villains.
...and zavok."
piesandbadhumor I personally think Zavok was pretty cool
@@Dondre__ kinda but not compared to the others
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One major problem: the custom character was confirmed to be just a regular denizen of Sonic's world that got caught up in the conflict.
I'm aware and still believe this theory to be a possibility.
One thing I'm sure is that the custom character will learn more about themselves and possibly unlock this true potential I suggest.
Mr. Crypt not really it could be a usual "hidden potential than you realize" type of character we make as we start OUR adventure to find it most of the other cast easily is normal.
Mr. Crypt Yeah, that's like, every super hero ever.
So Lyoko Gem: When Sonic does the Super-Peel Out, his legs make an Infinity sign. The Tail/Ears could ACTUALLY be a distorted version of a hedgehog tail/ears. The Mask, with it's fox shaped design, could be a tribute/reference to a dead comrade(Tails). The Infinite insignia looks like it could be a domino mask that could fit the same exact facial/eye positioning of Sonic's face. *which would be meta since both the insignia/mask are part of Infinite* The gem on the chest? Remember the blackened chaos emeralds during Sonic Adventure after Chaos became Perfect Chaos?
And faster than Sonic. Barring gameplay/non in lore demonstrations, usually nobody is ever FASTER than Sonic. *Or maybe Infinite recognizes a certain some one's muscle memory since he knows it all too well.*
clayisahottie That'd be sorta interesting
If shadow does go back to the good guys, then I know a perfect replacement....*looks at Tails Doll*
Woah, we don't want this game to be M-Rated. Hahaha
Lyoko Gem XD
nah, mecha sonic.
Smasherfan88 tails doll was used in Sonic R right?
Yes.
*is thinking if the CC's canon name is "Eight" though it's probably not due to the E3 gameplay*
Smasherfan88 No its name is avatar
segafan13 He means The Custom Character Aka -CC- Not Infinite
That would be stupidly brilliant.
I just wanted to name him like this xD
(Long analysis)Ok here's my theory on the lyrics of the sample main theme "Fist Bump" few things before I start:
1. This is a theory NOT a fact
2. I'm positive the Avatar concept isn't gonna be one and done.
3. The lyrics are NOT the full ones and more will be revealed on launch or early leaks.
4. It's obvious Classic Sonic will return to his dimension at the end but this Analysis is for the Avatar, Modern Sonic and Infinite again theory.
5. Still believe our Avatar will get a super form of some kind.
Here we go:
“I can’t do this alone
Even though I am strong
Need something more than me
Someone to push me to victory”
Sonic knows he can’t defeat Eggman, so he assembles a resistance. The part that interests me the most is “Someone to push me to victory”. Kinda sounds like he’s lacking hope, which would be pretty out of character of him but they are going a different tone in this game and leans toward our Avatar being that "someone to push him"
“Let’s see what we can do
Together me and you
Can’t be afraid to try
Kiss your fears goodbye”
“No looking back
You and I, we’re on the attack
Full speed ahead
Running to the sunset”
Sonic teams up with our Avatar and motivates them. Considering Park Avenue’s lyrics being motivational as well.
“Such a different feeling
Both of us believing
We can make it better”
Either Sonic has seriously lost hope, or there’s some sort of connection between the Avatar and Sonic.
“Together, we can show the world what we can do
You are next to me and I’m next to you
Pushing on through until the battle’s won”
More motivational stuff going on.
“No one’s gonna give our fate to us
Into each other we put our trust
Standing united
After the fight”
“Into each other” sounds a bit off…but this sounds like hope has been regained.
“All alone, we will never be
The two of us, are holding the key
We see today, a world we couldn’t see”
This likely refers to the ending of the game and everything is fine. Key is either metaphorical or a plot device we'll find out about, and “a world we couldn’t see” sounds like things are going back to normal.
“Before I say goodbye to you, one last fist bump”
Ok now THIS I already see many already took this out of context saying it implies "death of someone" on the official Sonic Channel which again was confirm not happening. So either our Custom Hero leaves at the end of the game, or they are literally A character and the whole “ordinary person” is just a cover up.
If we’re going with the “Custom Hero is Infinite/a part of Infinite theory”, this likely refers to them merging with Infinite after his defeat becoming a whole perfect being since "he's" the other half of them and a possible return to OUR actual dimension instead of being from Sonics actual world. A cool nodd Sega can do for the anniversary game IF this is true and our Avatar is from another dimension like CS but never disclose what it is they can imply our Avatar is indeed US from our actual Earth regardless if you are a Guy creating a Female Avatar vice versa they are the embodiment of US and how we see ourselves in the game and Sonic thanks US for helping him would be very symbolic and very nice if true.
Splatoo Blemier damn....that's a really cool theory right here I can see this happening and would be cool for Sega to do!
You rocked it, Splatoo! That's a great analysis.
I think that you've got a lot of the right ideas here, specifically the emotional connection between Sonic and the custom character and how they pick each other up.
And as for the last line, I didn't go to death. However, I didn't think that it could play into the theory. Amazing work, Splatoo!
Lyoko Gem yeah thanks! I got idea from NiGHTS and some other games on the last part and the focus slogan of the "Join the Resistance" I love when main theme songs in Sonic relate to the situation of the story this would be very well done with perfect execution!
Dude I am loving this theory
how did you have time to write all this?
Please Sega, make a cut scene like Unleashed so Sonic Forces is Unleashed 2, that would make my childhood come true
Its More Like Sonic Genation 2 Because Classic Sonic -Rip Spelling-
& Knuckles
WHY NOT SONIC ADVENTURE 3 ;-;
wtao2008 mostly because the sonic adventure format isn't used in this game
wtao2008 bruh
Wow, that was a really great theory! I 100% agree
But, I would like to take a different take at your ending. So, Infinite fuses with our character, and becomes Perfect Infinity. The two Sonics decide to go Super and try to free our character. Lending the chaos energy to our character that is now half of Infinite, a total mind break happens. Infinite and our character are fighting each other in one body to take control. Which one will prevail in the mind? Of course, it will be our character, thanks to the chaos energy. Once we take control, Perfect Infinity splits in two and our character comes out as a Super. Infinite, now having nothing else to do, decides to go into his "final form" as a last resort. The two Super Sonics and our Super character then finish off Infinite, and the day is saved.
I know that this will not likely happen, but I think it's a much better take on the probable corny ending.
Best theory i have heard about Sonic Forces so far
Zettman22 Thank you!
Really nice commentary, and theory. I cant wait for forces!
My theory is that Infinite is actually Mephiles the Dark. I mean, think about it. Just take a sec and look at Infinite's appearance. Does he or does he not low-key remind you of Mephiles?
I think, according to my theory, what happened was Eggman must've gone back in time to revive Mephiles. With Mephiles revived, he and Eggman teamed up to gather up one of Sonic's past villains. Shadow the Hedgehog, on the other hand, is on Eggman Empire's side because Eggman and Mephiles probably brainwashed him. As for the mask, Eggman probably created that mask for Mephiles for some reason.
Although, here's the plot twist: Eggman was actually being used by Mephiles. So, Mephiles is actually planning on destroying the world himself, along with the help of Sonic's past villains. Because, if you think about it, we might not see Eggman again later on in Sonic Forces. Plus, Mephiles also probably decided to go by a different name - Infinite.
I can see where you're going and while the villain does have resemblance to him, I don't think it's Mephiles.
For one, it's a little hard to place Mephiles actual existence. The events of Sonic 06 have been erased and with it, so should've Mephiles, Iblis and in turn Solaris.
Not only that but the whole nonsense of a human and animal dimension. Mephiles as a concept since he comes from 06 most likely exists in the human one and since Forces at the moment doesn't have any humans seen it's to be assumed that it takes place in the animal one. How Eggman would come across a power from another dimension is beyond me.
And honestly, I just don't know if SEGA would wanna take the risk of referencing 06 in such a direct way. With how the game was received, I don't think they'd take that chance of directly referencing it that way other than as a joke.
And if you ask about Lost World, it's split among the fandom and did decently which is why Zavok is present.
But idk about Mephiles.
I think it would make more sense if Infinite isn't Mephiles, but related, for example, Infinite could be a re-creation of Mephiles, but like this:
Mephiles>Time Eater>Infinite
Think about it!
The infinity is made out of two deltas. The Delta represents change.
To be honest, I would like the custom character to have voice actors: one male and one female depending on the gender of the character the player chooses. I think it'll be interesting to have voices for this new custom character. I think this may be most likely added to this but also being able to name your character too. But I bet in the story they may not refer to your character by their name but by something like "kid" or "the rookie" or something like that.
Same, I really am hoping for a voice acted custom character.
The One Gibus Queen I read from other comments that there will be voices for the custom character, and I think there's three voices to choose from each gender. However, the custom character will only grunt.
It is confirmed the custom character will have voice acting, and three different tones for each gender.
Oh sweet! thanks for the info guys. Can't wait for the game to come out am I right? 👍
you guessed it. the custom character is called "the rookie" in the game, but the official and/or most commonly used name is gadget, especcialy for the red wolf
I don't think they are related as the same person but they're from different dimensions that have opposite identical hidden powers (thus the 2 Deltas in the Forces Infinity symbol) Avatar being from Sonics main world. The fact that they are a "crucial element" makes it clear their/we're very important. Also Aaron already confirmed on live stream NOBODY DIES in Forces he obviously knows the story and obviously can't say anything else(I know you didn't say that talking about others that think this) don't see Sega going THAT dark especially for promoting US as one of the Hero/ine of the game plus it'll be another Wisp scenario when it'll be VERY well receive and becomes a staple especially since the massive fan request for 2 decades is one of the main reasons this concept exists in the first place (other characters if Sega choose can still be playable even with this new feature).
I'm not even sure of the relation myself. But I do think it's a possibility and this video is presenting why and if so, how it would come into play.
I don't think death is in the cards. I doubt it anyway.
We'll have to wait and see how things turn out.
Splatoo Blemier Chip died though.
Chaos is Power 💎
Chaos is Control 👁
Power is reach from the heart ❤
It depends on who uses it 🖑
Chaos is Infinite ♾
Mohammad Alawadhi I ask myself the same thing. But I hope you found out soon.
I'm sorry if you get these 2 weeks from 6-20-17 😟.
Android 18 I have all super emeralds... but I dont know how to use them
Mason Chen concentrate and think of
Evil: Chaos and Destruction
or
Good: Power and Control
Android 18 Do you remember me. I'm Chaos.
Perfect Chaos Yes, your The water monster in Sonic Adventure 1 - Sonic Forces.
my theory: the symbol on its chest has to be its power source
I agree. I bet it is his weakness, just like mefilis and the scepter.
Silver The Hedgehog ITS NO USE
I like this 'perfect chaos' idea over what happens in the actual plot between the two characters.
Eight Villains
Infinite Power
If the custom character is related to Infinite then SEGA just pulled the greatest metaphor for the Sonic Fanbase ever.
NAZO
Nah I don't know.
That worry that sets on you when the theory makes sense and you start wondering if you were just spoiled.
I think you're right.👍
What I gathered from the Infinite Trailer is that at the very least they know each other because our CC is trying to give him a fist bump but Infinite as he was just about to,pulled away his hand.
I only have one problem and that's with the new enter infinite trailer and his theme song the custom hero is seen trying to give Infinite a fist bump but infinite rejects it. My theory is that Infinite and the custom character are know each other on a level we haven't seen with a sonic villain and hero. Eggman and sonic know each out but it's a hatred for each other. No one knew what chaos was but Eggman, Shadow was locked away so sonic didn't know who he was till eggman set him free, Metal was built by Eggman to kill sonic, and I don't think eggman knew about the Deadly six and just got lucky when he found that magic shell. None of these villains have had a past with sonic till after sonic had to fight against him. Yet the custom hero tries to Fist bump the thing that caused Eggman to win? What if infinite and the custom hero are brothers? Infinite and the custom hero being related by blood would be an very interesting plot twist. The custom hero stays out of the conflict for as long as he can till because he loves his bother and doesn't want to hurt him but eventually he has to pick a side and sides with sonic. It's a theory that doesn't have much to go off of sense all I have really to work with is the one scene that's 3 seconds long of the custom character trying to fist bump infinite.
Morphstar changeling Entirely possible.
All star villains...and Zavok😂🤣
Hypershadic23
All star villains... And Chaos. 😆😆😆
I'm not salty
Redz The Ultra-Kard it could be part of a future game where it would be kinda be like the 2nd gameplay in Unleashed and have many endings like Shadow the hedgehog and have sonic fighting him but he can take control of him sometimes at random but it is a pretty good idea for a game
I honestly would have rather seen Mephiles. I know he was apart of the worst sonic game ever but he was a pretty cool villain.
KELLSONIC pretty cool? He would replace shadow as a villian! He should have. If only it was time travel and not dimensional travel.
What's sad this theory is better than any of Matpat's theories
You know... Thinking about his theme... This actually COULD be very possible if you consider him as speaking to the Character (Specificly the chorus especially the line 'I nevr Lie and that's the difference in you and me') then it could be taking as him saying you and him are 2 sides to the same coin. The different being, while he accepts what he is, you run from it. He is what you COULD be if you accepted your true role. He is your power unlocked. Your full potential.
I have been thinking that the Custom Hero that we see in the trailers and in the gameplay from the trailers name is Buddy the Wolf.
I think your CC will use a "Final Colour Blaster" instead of the Chaos Emeralds...
Ooooo I forgot about that.
I love the idea.
Np. I'm glad to share a theory
Nice name, "Spectrum blaster", -"Rainbow blaster",- "Color wheel gun" works for me well.
maybe the villain is coldsteel and the real name of the game is deviantart
footballXdankmemesXmusic r my purpose to live OMG I AGREE XD
Oh shit he's evolved into a stage 2 edgelord
HOLY SHIT THAT MAKES SENCE
I also did some looking into Delta and change I found the Avatars themes in their stages have an inspiring tone of wanting change on the current situation so Infinite could be the opposite in ideals.
Splatoo Blemier One day I'll realize, I can do it if I try! I can do anything and everything this time around!
Opening... my eyes until I realize...
Splatoo Blemier But for real, I like the idea. I didn't think to look to the lyrics for this, definitely a good eye there.
Lyoko Gem thanks I have high hopes for this connection in the game!
I'm certainly hoping for the best. The lyrics should definitely have some meaning and would be super cool if Infinite saw the opposite.
What if Infinite decided to betray Eggman to rule the world for himself? My theory since when Eggman discovers an ancient creature or teams up with another villian they betray him
Damn i would love that, it would make Infinite more than a tragic anti-villain, and instead turn into a Complete Monster.
OR, what if he betrayed and manipulated every character to get him to the top...
StanleyHere TBH it would make a whole lot more sense if that happened in the plot of the story. Not only Eggman isn't powerful enough just like all the previous villains that Sonic faced before.
My theory is that infinite created the custom hero to spy on the resistance and sabotage it in the end
That's certainly a possibility.
Lil' Skit.
Infinite: Sonic never told you about me..
Your Character: He told me enough! He told me we are enemies!
Infinite: No... You are my other half...
Your Character: No... No.. That's not true! That's Impossible!
Infinite: Search your energy, you know it to be true!
Your Character: NOO!!!! NNNOOOOO!!!!
Why I am not cringing nor disliking this, Halp.
Infinite:I am your father
your character:NOOOOOOOOOOO!
Sonic haters: Knew it Sonic still SUCKS!
Me: Thou shan't live to see ze next mourning~
Alternate second Avatar sentence: Your Character: (In an 06 silver voice) BUT... THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!
lol
Honestly... your whole theory literally just inspired me to actually come up with a final conclusion in my hopefully future webcomic
The Hooded-Guru I'm so glad to have inspired you!
"Snake king. Snnnnaaakkkeee......... WELL I GUESS THAT MEANS LYRIC CONFIREMED!"
I died laughing at that part 😂
that part about him manipulating others, sounded unbelievably like the very way Mephiles worked in sonic 06, manipulating others, into doing what he wanted, with no care for their future, or outcome. As well with fusing with the custom character.
beside all of that, Your theory sounds totally awesome! That and in the new infinite trailer, there is a short clip of infinite standing (actually floating) in front of the custom character. But I love your theory!!!! Its would be AWESOME!!!!
nice vid i love it you re the best of all my sonic youtubers ^^
There's another detail in the symbol, the eight has one half smaller than the other, but when the two halves turn around to form the infinity, they're equal in size. Something about your OC's growth in character and power?
You're absolutely right! Didn't even notice that detail, myself.
But yes, if this theory or something like it is right, then more than likely.
Oh, I now saw something in Infinite's shoe(?)pattern, his symbol has a glitch at the end. If you look at the rest of the circuit, it looks like it's forming the letters OC: vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/sonic/images/9/92/ENTINF27.png/revision/latest?cb=20170720171545
That's really clever of SEGA if this is deliberate.
Its dumb to say this but what if Infinite its actually OUR Version of character but from future that eggman was actually kindnap us and make us evil (i think he did that too to somebody) i mean that could make a bit sense since we still dont know how Classic sonic,mecha sonic and the rest came from. becase they could be defeated/dead by now since sonic defeated them IN THE PAST tho
This may seem strange, but when the sonic runs his legs form a symbol similar to infinity, can that mean anything? It's just a theory
Hmmmm it's possible.
I really think that's just a coincidence. I sincerely doubt that SEGA would make that happen on purpose. I mean think about it, the super peel-out happened in Sonic CD (1993). I don't really think they would have thought about Forces back then. There's a 23 year gap. (The super peel-out is when sonic runs with his legs like that infinite logo.)
This is a very nice Speculation. You might be right about the story, though I don't know if Sonic Team will go this route for the story. But, who knows. :)
i have a Theory what if those cubes give infinite the power to time travel and travel through dimensions and the custom character does to and the story revolves them trying to fix the past and The custom character brings classic sonic using that ability
Entirely possible.
Although it is already known that Eggman accidentally brought Classic Sonic to this dimension by accident.
Maybe the villain will match the appearance of our custom hero?
That's the idea.
@Lyoko Gem, that's sounds way to hard to make into a game but also your theory the "infinity" snake is called Ouroboros megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Ouroboros
Orati not hard he don't have to have to have accesories just match color species and ears and shit should be matched
+Otari Thanks!
What I think is that infinite was the prototype ultimate life form because biolizard can't be original ultimate life form biolizard is just provesser robotinks mind in a giant lizard
Joshua David Interesting theory.
Lyoko Gem why thank you I actually think that it make since however so here is the story infinite was created by provessier robotink but was rejected and made shadow instead while the gun agents were atacking the space coleny ark infinite got power and became a computer until sonic shows up in the ark and since then infinite had a new enemy
so if my avatar is an exact clone of sonic, we will have evil sonic?
Maybe shadow is working as a double agent
I've heard that before.
I have another idea of my own that I'll be sharing in the coming weeks, stay tuned.
What if Infinity is brainwashing the villains or atleast recreating them, and using the villains to kill Sonic, maybe even manipulating them.
Gaming 56 that makes no sense because shadow isn't bad unless you pluck him from the adventure series.
Anybody think that our custom avatar COULD be the Sonic from our demension,meaning at the end of the game Classic goes back to Mania and Avatar goes back to the REAL World (I got that referance from a TV show called: The Adventures of Super Mario Bros.3) and before Avatar and Classic leave, they all fist bump, leaving they hope to meet again.
That noise that infinite makes is the some noise that the portal makes in the ending of sonic mania
"Fun is Infinite at Sega Enterprises" - Madin
Ironically, Chaos is there
Your theory works surprisingly with SA1, Big the cat has a connexion with Chaos,his frog Froggy drinks a part of Chaos at the begining of the game 😂😂😂😂
Now that the game has come out, what if Finite(Infinite before wearing the mask) split into two entities, the Avatar and Infinite?
It's a combination of all of the five bosses!
how is infinant there and rookie in the trailer as two different beings
My thoery is that Infinite has the power to control time. He will probably pull in Bosses throughout the story from different Sonic games. We got 6 of them(Eggman,Zavok,M. Sonic, Shadow,Chaos, and Infinite), next we might get bosses like Mephiles or Dark Gaia, or even Lyric. And to add to my previous thoery, Infinite will pull us into different timelines to fight Those bosses(like green hill).
Interesting theory.
Devin Holliday Good Theory 10 out of 10 stars.
Devin Holliday This is the most obvious or common theory looking at who are in the game. I even expect this.
you mentioned the snake king but what you meant was auroboros right?
the snake eating it's tale?
Correct.
What if u made your costom is a diffrent animal?
If Infinite is the dark version of the OC then that could lead credence to the theory that events in Forces are the result of Silver traveling back through and helping to stop Mephilies and Solaris in Sonic 06.
ocs need to be a one time only thing. Things could get pretty weird (NOT in a good way.) if this becomes a staple like those stupid wisps replacing Sonic's actual friends.
Sonario648 I disagree completely with this moneymaker but you do you
Same here MetalGear Lamia. (I have the same opinion as you)
Raze Ninjato exactly thanks
While I agree that OCs shouldn't be a too regular thing, I wouldn't mind it showing up every now and again.
Or even creating a set of spinoffs within the Sonic Universe for that sort of thing.
And why does everyone think that Wisps replaced Sonic's friends.
They were already long gone before Colors, lmao.
what if infinity is the OC from the future?
Sonic unleashed is my favorite sonic game. If forces had an opening cutscene like in unleashed that would be awesome
This sounds like something Sega would do LIKE
What about infinits black eye ?
What if the custom fox we made is evil??
A soon as you said finally battle I thought of the most BA stuff happening where theres prefect chaos, super shadow, metal madness, and zavik
That would be sick.
i wouldnt be suprised if park avaune was the first level in unlesasd u know the city stages but i feel like infinite has time travel powers because zavok was from lost world, shadow from adventure 2, chaos from adventure 1 and metal sonic from cd (even tho we see him like occasionally in other games)
Possibly.
Will discuss it in a later theory.
AND beacuse sonic is based off of dragon ball z AND xenoverse had a custom character WITH a somewhat custom final boss that also had different villans from different series as "bosses"
Just a few things:
1. As a matter of fact, the Avatar _is_ a rookie -- this is mentioned in the Custom Hero Gameplay video on the Sonic the Hedgehog channel. While most of the Resistance is off at Chemical Plant Zone, the Avatar is sent elsewhere to create a distraction.
2. While Ouroboros _can_ be represented by the symbol of infinity, the Serpent is more often represented by a circle. This dates to the serpent motifs of the Ancient Egyptians, representing a snake eating its own tail.
2a. The symbol we use for infinity was first adopted by mathematician John Wallis. Unfortunately, he never explained where it was from or why he used it. The best guess is that it's a condensed form of one of the Roman numerals for 1000, CIƆ, or perhaps a variant of the Greek letter Omega.
3. The Avatar doesn't have special powers, sorry. The wisp powers are contained and controlled by the Wispon (wisp-weapon) on their arm, allowing them to use the color powers of the wisps (a la _Sonic Colors_) without having to physically contain a wisp inside their body. By comparison, Infinite is very definitely _not_ using a Wispon, but _is_ using a variation of the blue wisp's Cube power when it attacks. (It may have come into contact with a Nega-Wisp.)
Which creates an interesting question: Is this the reason the Avatar has the wispon? To avoid coming into contact with a Nega-Wisp as Infinite did? And if so, how _are_ the two of them related?
1. I don't know, the Chemical Plant referred to in the level could possibly be the actual factory in the level. At first, I thought it was Chemical Plant Zone. But at the mention of them keeping the multi legged battle mech away from it and going wild and making a distraction so that they could keep it away from the Chemical Plant that is actually there. It could actually be Chemical Plant Zone but I think it might just be the one in the level.
2. During my research I found quite a bit of relationship between Ouroboros and the infinity symbol so I went with that.
3. I'm referring from a plot perspective. Imagine this happening in cutscenes and the confrontation between Infinite and the custom character as like a Super Sonic boss fight.
Interesting, but idk. I mean from what is seen on what we think is the cover art for Sonic Forces, it looks like the custom character is wielding a Nega Wispon.
1. Fair enough. It's always hard to tell when they use such generic names for the levels...
2. Understood. That's a relatively modern application, though, just saying. Not inapplicable, and hey, maybe they went with it. Just consider me a font of somewhat useless information. ;)
3. Understood, though that would contradict Shun Nakamura's statement that the Avatar starts off as a "regular person" who then goes on an adventure with the Sonics. Assuming what Shun said is accurate, it looks like we don't get a Dark/Light Gaia setup this time.
A nega-Wispon? (checks artwork) Hm. Possibly. Of course, cover art isn't always game-accurate (which is why I'm not that concerned over the Avatar apparently wielding a Violet Wispon), but it could certainly work.
Personally, I consider it likely that the Avatar will realize that, once the timeline is restored, he'll have never been a hero at all. Of course, if he's at all worthy of the title, he'll make the sacrifice anyway, but still...
1. Exactly. It's hard to tell, but I think due to the context that it was not Chemical Plant Zone. At least, I hope not. Not that I don't like the level, but we just saw it in Generations and now Mania. I'm good.
2. Fair enough.
3. Gonna have to disagree here. Yes, he stated that the custom character is a "regular person." However, I don't believe that the character having hidden potential is far off. Like I stated in the theory is that the custom character doesn't know about their abilities and something or another over the course of Forces would trigger them. Say like a Percy Jackson sort of deal where oh yeah, you didn't know this but you're so and so...
That's true. However, I'm pretty sure the Nega Wispon would be included somewhere, but yeah.
Oooooo that's a good point. Sad, but true.
Instead of super I think they go hyper because basically because it's a huge battle.
OMG WHAT IF HES THE SONIC PROTOTYPE
Sonic was originally gonna be a bunny you know when he was scraped
All of he's parts weren't gone....thus became an INFINITE glitch
honestly I though something like the past and future. like sonic CD because I thought the 8 ment the figure 8. Also, since classic sonic (past) comes.
Zexo Classic Sonic is confirmed to be from another dimension.
As I said in another comment, I'm not feeling time travel anymore which I'll explain why in a future video.
i think we can reffer "perfect infinite" with infinity
INFINITE combinations of Avatars...villain name is Infinite...coincidence?
What if infinite will use mind control on the custom character?
If you take into consideration Infinite's eye, I noticed that it's the same as Mephiles' eye.
Kinda like in regular show where we find out that pops is an all powerful being with many abilities and has an evil brother
Noslen Martinez Yeah!
If that were to happen,it'd probably more likely that the character goes "Hmmm,yeah,I think I'll take all of Infinite's power so he's not a threat and so I have no need for a Super Form"
best sonic theory ever
Infinite sounds a lot like Mephilis.Mabye they never killed Mephilis in 06 and Eggman found him again?
The new character has ears of a bat, but it's probably just the armour
It could be pretty cool if he was an unlockable character or you could get his power by beating him
I have a question. WHERE THE HECK DID INFINITE GET THOSE FRESH KICKS
These are the real questions we should be asking.
First questions; how did eggman escape in the finale of generations?
My theory on who is infinite;
Maybe infinite is a ghost/ physical being made of evil or dark matter of the universe or earth. And all that evil on earth manifested into this being and how eggman hates sonic, the physical form was given as a hedgehog. So before it was a physical manifestation infinite was just a evil or dark energy.
Maybe he existed millions of years ago, given his name infinite. But with a different physical form.
Or infinite because their is infinite amount of evil or darkness.
That's my theory, and he probably helped Eggman escape from the white "space" in the end of generations because he felt negative emotions being emitted from the space.
(Do we know how eggman ecaped the white space in generations? Maybe lost world explains it, I don't know)
What do you guys think of my infinite theory?
I do believe that the custom character/Avatar and Infinite/Mobius(As the logo twists from an eight to a infinity sign, it could be a Mobius strip, a one sided object, which, if made into a loop, has infinite length. You will never reach the edge of a side.) will in some way be connected, I don't think Sega'll go as far as fusing the two. The one thing Sega WON'T do is take control of your character away from you.
I considered looking into the Mobius Strip as well. But I supposed I decided to let that go and stick to Infinity itself.
You've also got a point there. Hmmmmm
Infinite is actually meaphlies he came from the future which explains the time blocks and his eyes are the same that is what I think
I dont think they will go so far as making it painfully obvious who infinite is with the toggable species thing. You may be related to him somehow...but it seems they are set on his looks, Species, And voice most of all.
I tbink who infinite is is the dark of your custom character he has the phantom ruby in him so he could have changed apprance and lost himself to the will of the ruby or its someone the xustom character knew like a friend who lost himself to the ruby
Infinite: Red Lego brick guy
my theory is that infinite is the CC from another dimension cause in the e3 demo eggman makes a comment on how classic Sonic is from another dimension.....so what I think is going on is that infinite is going to other dimensions and destroying them in search for well .... infinite power and the CC in Sonic's dimension is just a regular person. but since in one universe he a very powerful being he might have some hidden power like is otherdimentionel counter part I also think that infinite sees that potential in our CC this he want to recruit him to rule over all together or destroy him in fear of our CC being more powerfull than he is again this all cause of that one eggman line from classic sonics portion otherwise this wouldn't be the case at all ...remember he said pint sized sonic from another dimension
MegaMasterite Y I could see that.
Lyoko Gem it all stemed from that eggman line it still bugs me
like how does he know that classic sonic is from another dimension he either A saw him come from some portal B made an assumption (witch is the least likely ) or C infinite brought him along by mistake and eggman is working for it along side infinite
MegaMasterite Y I'm thinking C.
It's that line that makes me think we're not really dealing with Time Travel anymore.
Lyoko Gem I should hope not remember sonic 06 no one want more Time travel
Or if sonic can't defeat infinite what if the costume character can defeat infinite he may be not fast as sonic but what if he can?
Just like Star Wars
Infinite is Darth Vader
And are Character Dan/Marisa is Luke Skywalker
The Lightside is 8
The Darkside is ♾
It's either going down to ways Infinite is Victorious or
Dan/Marisa is Victorious
Either way balance is restored to the Force.
Haha, yeah!
Dan?Marisa?
Infinite kinda has shadows, metal sonic's, zavack and chaos's details
How so?
Lyoko Gem well put all the villains side by side and look at their details
Lyoko Gem also a good theory in the comments tells how infinite could be meppalias (sorry for miss spelling that name) and I would like to add on to that, if it is him then he possibly got some features of the characters and DNA maybe (not counting metal) like some sort of fusion, shadows Chest hair, his um snake like hair in the back from zavock and the color of the eyes and HIS SHOES LIKE WHAT ARE THOSE, seems like a fusion of shadow and metal's shoes
When you put it that way, I do suppose that he could kind of be a little bit of an amalgamation.
Lyoko Gem Another fantastic theory. I like it, but there are few things that can be arguably awkward. Yes they do look similar, bit it's the eyes of Infinite that beg to differ. Not only that but the ears are drastically different in size and the idea that they are supposed to be two opposing forces that are balanced is also weird since there would need to be alot of potential tapping for that to come to be. I love this theory though. It's great, just like the last one. I believe that Infinite is similar to Mephilis in the terms of wanting the Custom Hero for a particular reason, but instead is doing what Mephilis tried to do to Shadow, convert him to his side and when Custom Hero decides to continue fighting against him, he, overall seeing how stubborn Custom Hero is, annhilates him. Possibly Infinite may sacrifice the All-Star Villains and Zavok as pawns. Such in the sense he puts the Sonics and Custom Hero in Battle Stasis with whichever All-Star Villain of his choosing, to the point where it is either permanently immobolize the villain or just sacrifice themself for the greater good. Like if they're all fighting against Chaos and Metal while Infinite constantly changes the Battle Conditions to where it is nearly impossible for the Sonics and Custom Hero to continue to hold back, so instead of immobilization, Classic Sonic decides "don't worry I can handle them" and lets Modern and Custom Hero move on, similar to how Naruto's friends fought one on one with those ninja preventing Naruto from getting to Sasuke. I love your theories. I can't wait to see another one. Keep up the great work.
Thanks.
I have to say your right about the ears and all, but the idea that it might be a Dark and Light Gaia sort of deal I still hold onto. Whether or not it'll come to light, idk. But that's all the fun of making theories! You're never too sure as to what you'll get.
With that being said, I think it would be really interesting if Infinite was after the custom hero the same way Mephiles was after Shadow and that would make for a pretty awesome plot. But still raises the question as to why he's interested in our custom character.
Infinite's such a fun concept though and I'm just curious as to where they take him.
And thank you so much for the support, it really means a lot to me.
Lyoko Gem Do you think you'll make another theory anytime soon?
Expect another one soon.First, I've gotta do something else.
But after, I've got a video planned on one of the villains.
Lyoko Gem Can't wait. take all the time you need.
This theory is awesome
man I can't wait for this game.
Maybe the CC has to fight an imperfect Infinite A.K.A Infinite's soul.
But what if I choose female for the custom character and Infinite is voiced by liam o brian
Theory: Custom Character and Infinite are somehow both from our world.
I think so too.
Computer Cupcake So.....
Pokemon MD all over again?
To evreybody infinite is a custom caracter u can see when is says im not weak
..." authority over all these all star bad guys. And zavok."
Wow this is the second time a comment of mine has been liked by a creator of that Video! Thanks!