'Victim of Jodi': Lawyer for Ruby Franke's Husband Tells All, Blames YouTube Mom and Partner

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  • The lawyer representing the husband of Ruby Franke spoke to the Law&Crime Network about his knowledge of the child abuse allegations pitted against the UA-cam mom and her business partner Jodi Hildebrandt. Randy Kester said Kevin Franke is a “victim of Jodi,” who is the “spearhead” of this horrifying situation. Kester blamed Hildebrandt, stating “she’s caused all of the destruction” in this case. Sidebar host Jesse Weber discusses the case with Kester, who details why Kevin Franke played no role in the disturbing child abuse incidents. Read about key takeaways from this interview: bit.ly/46ehka9
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  • @LawAndCrime
    @LawAndCrime  8 місяців тому +24

    Read about key takeaways from this interview: bit.ly/46ehka9

  • @stevenreyngold1166
    @stevenreyngold1166 8 місяців тому +4022

    Considering the 20 year old daughter's reaction to the arrest of her mother was, "about time". That tells me this has been going on for years and there is no way the husband didn't know what was going on if not an active participant. These people are the worst kind of monsters.

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 8 місяців тому +247

      Well, there is no way he will be able to come out of this clean, no way. The kids will tell what it was going on inside that house. Way before Jodi came along.

    • @MM-ez6ig
      @MM-ez6ig 8 місяців тому +171

      Absolutely. And I don't believe the story that the 20 year old daughter didn't report them. Her reaction alone shows that at some point she had been involved in fighting for her siblings. She must have at least reported her. Especially given that his attorney said that she knew beforehand they were coming for her, there should be an investigation in how prior reports were actually handled. Maybe she had people from that Mormon Church who warned her and downplayed her action and actively obstructed justice.

    • @margenn3889
      @margenn3889 8 місяців тому +31

      ​@MM-ez6ig this sounds very feasible!

    • @kc-lp6wg
      @kc-lp6wg 8 місяців тому +124

      All Kevin cares about is getting his wife back. This is sickening.

    • @mzny4314
      @mzny4314 8 місяців тому +155

      The lawyer is going to lie to make his client look good even though millions of viewers saw how they treated their children....

  • @JC-dc7yd
    @JC-dc7yd 8 місяців тому +1709

    He's a sorry excuse for a father. There is no way a good dad would stay away from his children for so long. It's just absurd.

    • @lindajohnson.
      @lindajohnson. 8 місяців тому +41

      Exactly, any father who loved his children wouldn’t abandon them. Kevin, always seemed very aloof, and Ruby ran the show! 😢

    • @WestVirginia1959
      @WestVirginia1959 8 місяців тому +52

      Especially when he knew how she acted toward the children and that she was crazy as a loon.

    • @maryjane4432
      @maryjane4432 8 місяців тому +51

      He also participated before he left

    • @monicawitt9368
      @monicawitt9368 8 місяців тому +60

      Plus, isn't the father the one that holds the priesthood in the household according to Mormon beliefs? He had a holy obligation to step up and he didn't. He tucked tail and let his wife do whatever with his own kids. You can't have it both ways here and he seems to be trying to do just that.

    • @VioletJoy
      @VioletJoy 8 місяців тому +17

      But he didn't "physically discipline his children." 🙄

  • @trishayamada807
    @trishayamada807 8 місяців тому +673

    You don’t have to use physical violence to be an abuser.

    • @saoirsecruise6713
      @saoirsecruise6713 8 місяців тому +12

      Exactly what I was thinking 😖

    • @maxbang1813
      @maxbang1813 8 місяців тому +8

      100% correct!

    • @judistocker1811
      @judistocker1811 8 місяців тому +5

      Absolutely. My ex never laid a hand on me but exerted psychological and emotional control over me. I was, and somewhat still am, a very happy person who was doing well in my career (he was also in the same career). My outlook on everything was positive while his was extremely negative. He’d had a pretty rough childhood and mine was good. While I loved the work I was doing he hated it.
      In hindsight, I think my happiness and success was too much for him and he needed to squash me and my success.
      He has since quit drinking and has realized he has a multifactorial PTSD from childhood, his now previous career, and having served over in Iraq. We no longer speak as he has no ability to have empathy for situations since our divorce. I had a serious injury and lost 2 siblings and he has never acknowledged my grief.

    • @rubytuesday1316
      @rubytuesday1316 8 місяців тому +2

      True this! It falls under all utah domestic violence codes

    • @villanessa
      @villanessa 8 місяців тому

      💯

  • @kiakat
    @kiakat 8 місяців тому +86

    He’s a pathetic excuse for a parent. Just deflection and no accountability. Shameful.

    • @oshing9
      @oshing9 8 місяців тому +2

      Exactly

    • @lyndamclean6786
      @lyndamclean6786 Місяць тому

      He’s a whimp and is controlled by ruby
      That’s all there is to it
      Did u notice when ruby was in her hearing or whatever they call it
      She looked at the lawyer
      As much to say Stand up too
      Bit???

  • @mmcmann9539
    @mmcmann9539 8 місяців тому +1092

    He abandoned them. There is no excuse. He’s a grown man. He picked her over his kids.

    • @pegm.5308
      @pegm.5308 8 місяців тому +22

      Don’t understand why he would pick her.

    • @Fairyviewroad
      @Fairyviewroad 8 місяців тому +9

      @@pegm.5308 He did.

    • @rosegann8339
      @rosegann8339 8 місяців тому +69

      How would a man being sent away from the home and not having contact with your kids or your wife be beneficial to your marriage or your kids

    • @nothingworksworks3511
      @nothingworksworks3511 8 місяців тому +11

    • @stutzbearcat5624
      @stutzbearcat5624 8 місяців тому

      ​@@pegm.5308
      Cuz he's GOT NO BALLS.

  • @onesweetangel1017
    @onesweetangel1017 8 місяців тому +3390

    I have to completely disagree with this. Jodi is terrible in her own right but Ruby and Kevin are not "victims of Jodi" by any means and none of the terrible choices that they made like sending their son to a wilderness camp for months, taking their kids beds away, not feeding them, locking them in their rooms, tying them up, are to be placed entirely on Jodi. Those were choices that THEY made themselves. This is basically like trying to excuse all of a bully's actions and behavior by saying that they are a victim of the person that once bullied them so the way they treat others and the terrible things they do to other people are okay. They better not pull this victim card because nobody buys it.

    • @donnakawana
      @donnakawana 8 місяців тому +109

      I completely agree

    • @evilprincess3307
      @evilprincess3307 8 місяців тому +121

      Amen! the abuses in this family Run very deep in the roots and branches well outside of Jodi's own Monstrosity.

    • @kheventplanner
      @kheventplanner 8 місяців тому +156

      This father isn't fooling anyone but I garuntee he and Ruby are gonna say Jodi brainwashed them into doing these things to their kids as a defense

    • @mamabear52
      @mamabear52 8 місяців тому +62

      Adam Steed's interview today helped me to better understand what happened to Kevin and Ruby. Yeah the meal deprivation, in our eyes seem harsh, when they were still public looked bad, however the children appeared healthy. I do not believe Ruby was gullible either, clearly she was a sadistic woman who wanted to harm even more. Kevin seemed to want his wife more than his children and perhaps didn't want to go public with a custody dispute, believing he would interfere with the income stream. All revenue for the old UA-cam program doesn't come directly from UA-cam

    • @katbar6066
      @katbar6066 8 місяців тому +80

      🎯🎯. I will never believe he had no idea what was happening. He is getting his side out real quick and lawyering up makes me suspicious when he hasn't been charged with anything.

  • @kevinbachman6578
    @kevinbachman6578 8 місяців тому +89

    At best, Kevin is negligent; at worst complicit. I hope for the children’s sake he isn’t allowed back in their lives. His failures as a parent are irredeemable.

  • @lizzzlayyy
    @lizzzlayyy 8 місяців тому +18

    He failed his kids as a protector. Heartbreaking.

  • @TM2U-1
    @TM2U-1 8 місяців тому +1530

    Ridiculous. He didn’t know his son was sleeping on a bean bag for seven months? Or that his children were hungry? I don’t buy it. He should have seen his children.

    • @necieden
      @necieden 8 місяців тому +76

      Lies lies and more lies

    • @kjh6903
      @kjh6903 8 місяців тому +122

      Exactly he knew . We’ve seen the videos and he’s there while they’re discussing their sick parenting decisions.

    • @kcurtis7616
      @kcurtis7616 8 місяців тому +81

      He was living in the house at that time and they made a video about it, they made that decision together

    • @jewelsvamps
      @jewelsvamps 8 місяців тому +41

      they made a video together defending themselves and those exact actions. this is easily verifiable information so no matter what he says he’s still screwed because there’s evidence of him knowing and even defending it

    • @WowJustWow37
      @WowJustWow37 8 місяців тому +45

      Just yesterday she accused her kid of being a molester and now this. These people are the worst kind of lying demons

  • @karenh2890
    @karenh2890 8 місяців тому +1608

    A father who doesn't know his youngest, most vulnerable children are malnourished?! His younger son duct-taped with visible injuries? There is absolutely no excuse for either parent's behavior.

    • @ChrissyBeTalking
      @ChrissyBeTalking 8 місяців тому +93

      Why wouldn’t he insist on having access to his kids? Even by phone. Very odd.

    • @mimakate
      @mimakate 8 місяців тому +33

      Completely agree

    • @gattamom
      @gattamom 8 місяців тому

      @@ChrissyBeTalkingRuby was proboably so toxic he steered clear.

    • @marcopalazzo9349
      @marcopalazzo9349 8 місяців тому +28

      Fathers abandon families all the time, this is not unusual. I suspect he knew something was not right but it got worse while he was away or he just turned a blind eye. I will wait till facts come out before I make a judgement.

    • @selecttravelvacations7472
      @selecttravelvacations7472 8 місяців тому

      I tend to agree and yet if you listen to Adam Steed’s interview it becomes clear how power is quickly taken from the father and the legal authorities and church are on Jodi’s side. He was being manipulated by Jodi and Ruby no doubt about it. I want him to take an interview and be questioned but I guess that won’t happen until legal proceedings are complete. It could be awhile. The State of Utah is extremely corrupt, probably worse than Chicago. Instead of “the mob”, you have a sect running the State under the guise of Mormon morality. There was a time the Vatican ruled Europe and everything was connected to The Church; Utah has it’s own tiny empire of clay. Listen to Adam Steed’s long interview on Mormon Podcasts here. It’s very enlightening how deeply connected they are.

  • @miamimice6572
    @miamimice6572 8 місяців тому +171

    I’m even sorrier for these kids, if that’s possible. Not only is their mother a monster but their father is useless. My heart breaks for all of them.

  • @thegeekofchic
    @thegeekofchic 8 місяців тому +216

    This interview was ill advised for Kevin and I have no idea why they thought this would be beneficial to his standing in this situation at all. His lawyer comes across as unknowledgeable and/or contradictory on so many of the key talking points that it paints him and his client as unreliable and untruthful. For a case with such huge media coverage, understanding all of the avenues of potential questioning is key to making your case. This interview has not done anything to change peoples minds over his involvement in this - particularly given the history - it just looks like passing they’re passing the buck.

    • @isanafissi9683
      @isanafissi9683 8 місяців тому +14

      I completely agree. Many of the points that the lawyer “couldnt speak on” conveniently seem to be things that could be detrimental to his case. When he was asked if the older children think that the kids should be with him, he said he couldnt speak on that. Whyy??? Im sure if the answer was yes he would have said that.

    • @sweetsugarjones
      @sweetsugarjones 8 місяців тому +7

      I disagree and think you might underestimate the role of the Mormon church in these circumstances. Blind faith tends not to question authority. If you haven’t seen it I highly recommend Adam Steed’s interview on the Mormon stories channel for an explainer in how people got caught up in Jodi’s web. I’m not giving him a pass, and definitely not Ruby, but I have an open mind after hearing what Adam went through.

    • @lizdog1111
      @lizdog1111 8 місяців тому +9

      Oh now I just heard he didn't check on them for over a year! What a POS. Out living like a bachelor while his kids suffer. She's obviously mental... but he's WORSE than her not protecting them!

    • @kaysee2428
      @kaysee2428 8 місяців тому +11

      ​@@sweetsugarjonesI think it's a mix of both. This interview doesn't help him at all and the influence of such a toxic and abusive religion is being underestimated.

    • @ElanaVital83
      @ElanaVital83 8 місяців тому +7

      I wish he had Elaine Bredehoft instead :P

  • @heartsmyfaceforever8140
    @heartsmyfaceforever8140 8 місяців тому +1947

    They sent their kid away to a torture camp and then denied him a bed when he returned.
    He was home while Ruby was stalling bringing her daughter to the ER.
    He shamed his son by reading his texts for the world to hear.

    • @davidfrey5654
      @davidfrey5654 8 місяців тому +27

      Anasazi wilderness camp is not a torture camp. that's ridiculous.

    • @heartsmyfaceforever8140
      @heartsmyfaceforever8140 8 місяців тому +215

      What’s ridiculous is taking your kids homework and threatening to throw it out if they don’t do a certain dollar amount worth of chores.

    • @Qxeenbxlla
      @Qxeenbxlla 8 місяців тому +31

      Omg and that one other time where she told Us off on a video where she allow him to get instagram but some of the girls were commenting that he’s cute and such and she got mad at us and call us something😂

    • @myru232
      @myru232 8 місяців тому +54

      ​@@davidfrey5654but the child didn't want to go

    • @Richie8a8y
      @Richie8a8y 8 місяців тому +1

      @heartsmyfaceforever8140
      14
      What were the texts about?

  • @asifnothingeverhappend
    @asifnothingeverhappend 8 місяців тому +446

    What a joke. They parented together for like 20 years. He let his son sleep on a bean bag in the living room for 7 month, knew Ruby punished the children with withholding food and all the other sick stuff that was going on. He's just as bad as she is and needs to be in jail.

    • @saratullas5509
      @saratullas5509 8 місяців тому +18

      The filmed them being punished sleeping by the toilet in the bathroom. The kids looked humiliated. There is no way the dad didn’t know. Ironic that Ruby is going to be in a cell sleeping next to the toilet

    • @AngelaRPierce
      @AngelaRPierce 8 місяців тому

      ​@@saratullas5509❤

    • @Athena_208
      @Athena_208 8 місяців тому +6

      Exactly he didn’t even have the balls to do anything.

    • @user-mv9gq7nq3n
      @user-mv9gq7nq3n 8 місяців тому +1

      i completely agree with this.

    • @annagitana1
      @annagitana1 8 місяців тому +2

      And he defended all of that!! He chastised people who criticized those “parenting techniques” saying that such criticism says more about the person than it does about the Frankes.

  • @stephaniecervantes5515
    @stephaniecervantes5515 8 місяців тому +68

    I think it's SO ODD that the lawyer would agree to speak about a case that is current and ongoing...doesn't this show he's trying to do major damage control, yet its ultimately at the expense of the case?

  • @mandy648
    @mandy648 8 місяців тому +64

    The lawyer says, “ he’s a good dad.” Even if he was not an abusive dad, that doesn’t make him “a good dad”. He had zero contact with six of his own offspring, imagine what that did to those poor children. Good dads do not do that to their children. I hope if he receives custody of these children he seeks professional spousal abusive recovery support, and he cherishes these children better than he did before.

  • @christiannwalls7751
    @christiannwalls7751 8 місяців тому +706

    I don’t believe anything that this attorney is saying!! Kevin is 100% guilty!

  • @TrueNorthLocks
    @TrueNorthLocks 8 місяців тому +270

    He went along with everything she ever did to the kids. He's just as culpable as her!!! He allowed it. Eff him too.

    • @BlessedandHighlyFavored4
      @BlessedandHighlyFavored4 8 місяців тому +23

      Now!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽he should charged. They need to let the kids stand in front of their parents n tell their side..

    • @idek6914
      @idek6914 8 місяців тому +9

      He was clearly being manipulated and was just gullible he wouldn’t let this happen to his kids

    • @labitcoineragt3596
      @labitcoineragt3596 8 місяців тому +5

      Exactly!

    • @punky19761
      @punky19761 8 місяців тому +25

      @@idek6914 Are you being serious right now? He’s not 5.

    • @k.duelist4913
      @k.duelist4913 8 місяців тому +17

      Finally someone feels the baldy should be held accountable too

  • @ciarad5963
    @ciarad5963 8 місяців тому +13

    Love how the lawyer starts out he's busy struggling trying to figure out what happened to HIM but what about the poor kids SO sad.

  • @EmilyALop
    @EmilyALop 8 місяців тому +18

    The children were left alone for 5 days in September by Ruby and Kevin was nowhere to be found. In numerous old vlogs he sat right by Ruby and agreed to taking away a 4 year old's Christmas, making his children pay for their belongings, etc. He is NOT innocent.

  • @KARIM-hm8dh
    @KARIM-hm8dh 8 місяців тому +463

    He puts his kids belongings in a bag including their homework and said if they dont pay money to buy it back by the end of the day it was going into the garabage - ya maybe he wasnt physically abusive but he def was emotionally traumatizing those kids supporting his wifes BS parenting styles. When his wife would take away eating privileges he let it happen, he needs to be arrested.👋👋👋

    • @kcurtis7616
      @kcurtis7616 8 місяців тому +21

      I just posted the same thing

    • @AndrewH1220
      @AndrewH1220 8 місяців тому +7

      Not saying he isn't responsible but was probably just manipulate. Another thing he had a job so there's was small chance he didn't know or if he did Ruby explained why where it made sense to him

    • @mistydew5391
      @mistydew5391 8 місяців тому +7

      I agree

    • @ivettecuevas4466
      @ivettecuevas4466 8 місяців тому +7

      Yes absolutely agree

    • @jenniferbond5771
      @jenniferbond5771 8 місяців тому +6

      Oh yeah I saw that video. Good eye

  • @sarahinsf
    @sarahinsf 8 місяців тому +556

    I do not believe for one second this guy was "absolutely shocked" at how his wife treated their children... and I think it's crazy that he is able to claim total innocence and walk free during these legal proceedings.

    • @ttrainor70
      @ttrainor70 8 місяців тому

      Everybody gets to claim innocence, you evil harpy. Trying to blame the father is disgusting

    • @aliel_143
      @aliel_143 8 місяців тому +5

      😂😂😂yea you are right

    • @candicel3224
      @candicel3224 8 місяців тому +3

      What do you expect his lawyer to say? LOL of course he will protect his client.

    • @sarahinsf
      @sarahinsf 8 місяців тому +2

      @@candicel3224 True, lawyers gotta lawyer, but still, what a clown show! "I swear, Judge, it was all his evil wife! Poor guy was under her well-manicured thumb, just like those poor babies!"

    • @MyStupidYoutubeHandle
      @MyStupidYoutubeHandle 8 місяців тому +2

      Uh she was so obviously the root of it all it’s insane. Bet you he didn’t have a chance to have a say in anything. Just by how it looks lol

  • @DeanWuksta
    @DeanWuksta 8 місяців тому +10

    Husband knew she was abusive towards their kids while they were together, clips I’ve seen show him being completely complicit with their descriptions of how they treated their children. He should be charged for doing nothing to protect his kids, that’s an offence, failure to disclose.

  • @shaz240
    @shaz240 8 місяців тому +26

    Kevin is just as guilty as his wife Ruby…. he has seen in many episodes on UA-cam, shaking you sad and verbally agreeing with his wife as she delegates punishment for the kids. It’s just disgusting. There was no love in that family only fear those poor kids.

  • @kevinhornbuckle
    @kevinhornbuckle 8 місяців тому +642

    Kevin Franke allowed his wife to cut him off from his children. What kind of father allows this to happen?! The lawyer said, "He was taking direction from Ruby." Imagine the kids saying to each other, 'Where is our dad when we need him? He is too afraid of our mom to stand up to her.'

    • @meowser1905
      @meowser1905 8 місяців тому +59

      Kevin never cared about his kids, he is just as guilty as Ruby was in hurting the children.
      He was in the house and around the kids during the channels activity, he only cares about himself and ruby

    • @bethoneybee
      @bethoneybee 8 місяців тому +22

      Or imagine the kids not trying to contact him because he was just as bad

    • @kinglinus3708
      @kinglinus3708 8 місяців тому +12

      Hmm is he telling the truth Kevin. I want evidence. I find that hard to believe he only wants protect himself so he dont go jail

    • @PennelopeWhitmore
      @PennelopeWhitmore 8 місяців тому +11

      It's like 40% of fathers never see their kids after the divorce. It's sick.

    • @ShannonGilpatrick
      @ShannonGilpatrick 8 місяців тому +26

      I can’t imagine abandoning my children thinking it would save my marriage. Disgusting.

  • @sheherezad9
    @sheherezad9 8 місяців тому +1060

    The husband played the Role 100%! Not reaching to your kids and NOT communicating with them is just appalling .!

    • @danielrodriquez9555
      @danielrodriquez9555 8 місяців тому +6

      Yeah

    • @lorrilewis2178
      @lorrilewis2178 8 місяців тому +52

      Legally, a parent is responsible for their children's welfare. Accepting Ruby's request that he not check in with his children doesn't fly legally. And what kind of father would agree to such an outrageous request?

    • @danielrodriquez9555
      @danielrodriquez9555 8 місяців тому +23

      @@lorrilewis2178 somebody who simply doesn’t care about his family and probably wanted to only worry about himself

    • @karenwalters1211
      @karenwalters1211 8 місяців тому +19

      That’s what I don’t understand. Did he not see or talk to the kids for all those months? What kind of dad is he?

    • @Indielizard711
      @Indielizard711 8 місяців тому +17

      He needs to be looked into! If Ruby’s allegations about her son are right, something happened to that child. It could have been the dad or another man/adult in their life since the kids didn’t have any friends. I find it very suspicious that Ruby kicked him out and cut off contact with the children. Even more suspicious that he didn’t fight to see and or communicate with his children if he isn’t guilty of anything and a loving caring parent he would have fought to see his children

  • @chrisholiday3273
    @chrisholiday3273 8 місяців тому +61

    You know, Ruby's parenting style was always extreme and probably questionable. However, I feel that after she cut off her family and ultimately separated from Kevin that she went full blown crazy and her actions went from questionable to illegal. Telling kids that they had to do their chores before eating breakfast is harsh and wrong, but what she is being accused of now is pure torture. Jodi has probably manipulated Ruby, and since Ruby was already close to the edge, Ruby went full on crazy.

    • @doodlebug52
      @doodlebug52 8 місяців тому +4

      100%. I totally agree with you...

    • @milenaschillernino4469
      @milenaschillernino4469 8 місяців тому +7

      I agree. And looking at some pictures and dynamics I wonder whether Ruby and Jodi are a couple.

  • @DrPatriceBerry
    @DrPatriceBerry 8 місяців тому +41

    As a psychologist, I thought that Ruby and Kevin would likely blame Jodi due to the role she reportedly played as their therapist (at minimum family therapist possibly individual as well). There seem to be so many boundary and ethical violations in this case...his story sounds so much like Adam Steed and other men that have said that working with Jodi, the men are cut off from their family and children. I wonder if Kevin knew about the allegations about the 12 year old (which I do not believe are true based on the allegations of Jodi finding normal behaviors to be addictive).

    • @septimaserpent
      @septimaserpent 8 місяців тому +1

      & Due To Jessi Hildebrandt Alleging The Same Tactics Were Also Used Against Her To Discredit/Silence Her

    • @khm2128
      @khm2128 8 місяців тому +1

      @DrPatriceBerry, the father was probably accused of bad things, just like what has happened to the 12 y/o son.
      Jessi (Jodi's neice) gave an interview which highlighted the gaslighting used by Jodi. This interview was given after the pretrial hearing (in which Jodi alleges the 12 y/o son is an abuser.)

  • @Ran_Dumb_libs
    @Ran_Dumb_libs 8 місяців тому +584

    Some couples don’t deserve to have children 😡

    • @ayamystic
      @ayamystic 8 місяців тому +9

      Most. Get over it

    • @jeremysmith9694
      @jeremysmith9694 8 місяців тому +3

      They made em

    • @purawesomeness78
      @purawesomeness78 8 місяців тому +4

      Exactly couples it shocks me he wasn’t charged as well he allowed all this

    • @heidimorein3180
      @heidimorein3180 8 місяців тому +8

      Or to keep them

    • @raqueacevedo1509
      @raqueacevedo1509 8 місяців тому +7

      And they had 6!!!...why? I do not understand...

  • @AmandaIvy1
    @AmandaIvy1 8 місяців тому +694

    It's UNREAL hearing the lawyer say that Kevin always provided for his kids. They sacrificed their childhoods so their parents could exploit them online for money and 'likes'. Their entire existence (private, embarassing, and abusive moments included) plastered on the internet for the world to see. The kids provided for themselves make no mistake! He may not be a Ruby level monstrosity, but he's an abusive, neglectful parent at the very least.

    • @marieogara1036
      @marieogara1036 8 місяців тому

      I completely agree. They used their children as a commercial commodity, sold them on line. It's the new version of the Jackson Family, --child exploitation.

    • @mirandawells9348
      @mirandawells9348 8 місяців тому +13

      👏👏👏FACTS!!!

    • @AnnaP-uh3mc
      @AnnaP-uh3mc 8 місяців тому

      Right. The kids were providing for them through their slave labor.

    • @ItsTifahTifah
      @ItsTifahTifah 8 місяців тому +13

      I agree but we have to take it with a grain of salt he’s doing his job

    • @EllaGreenn
      @EllaGreenn 8 місяців тому +18

      Absolutely And what did he provide for during those last weeks/months? No food and a roll of duct tape doesn't cost too much. Idc if he didn't know. He should have. He participated and agreed with a lot of abusive BS while he was living there. For example withholding food and a place to sleep was normal in his house and are acts of physical abusive ommission. So he's just as guilty.

  • @4KordeleskiS
    @4KordeleskiS 8 місяців тому +20

    He got a taste of freedom regardless of what "HIS" lawyer says. No good father could go that long without at least hearing from them. My husband values our marriage as well, but nothing, not even our marriage, would stop him from seeing his kids. He is responsible for being neglectful. Not only did the mom fail these kids, but their dad did as well.

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 8 місяців тому +1

      something very, very fishy going on here

  • @I_AM_ME_777
    @I_AM_ME_777 8 місяців тому +19

    There is no way the father didn’t know about this!! He completely neglected those kids!!!

    • @geraldinegaynor1360
      @geraldinegaynor1360 2 місяці тому +1

      He was a spineless wimp and followers Rubys directions. Useless father.

  • @violetembers2532
    @violetembers2532 8 місяців тому +320

    The narrative he is pushing is a lie. He was on the show whem they would deny some of their kids gifts while giving gifts to the others. And while the son was sleeping on a beanbag, and all the other issues. They're eldest daughter even tried to call protective services on them and she's only 20. This isn't new. I'm shocked he hasn't been charged with something yet.

    • @ecoquilting7077
      @ecoquilting7077 8 місяців тому +11

      Hopefully all that existing video will put him in jail too. He's totally culpable.

  • @Salty-cracker68
    @Salty-cracker68 8 місяців тому +139

    The eldest said, “ Finally “ when mom was arrested. So if dad’s only been gone for a year, it sounds like this has been going on much much longer and he is just as culpable as mom is.

  • @lezchatreality
    @lezchatreality 8 місяців тому +66

    The father definitely knew and literally neglected his children! They are such horrible parents! I can't believe anyone was fooled into thinking this was good parenting! this world is so backwards

  • @Happymom1708
    @Happymom1708 8 місяців тому +6

    What kind of man listens to his wife tell him he shouldn’t see his kids and then doesn’t see them. Good grief there’s more to this!

  • @SGaux
    @SGaux 8 місяців тому +180

    Videos of her withholding food... and him in a video agreeing with her that the children should pay money or do chores to retrieve their belongings that were thrown away make me believe that he is culpable.

    • @thepearlswirl
      @thepearlswirl 8 місяців тому +5

      NGL I grew up thinking all kids had food and love withheld without doing things to get them. I thought getting beat/hit by your parents was a normal and weekly thing. I didn't realize it was wrong till teachers, counselors and therapists told me. Sad but true.

  • @amysimpson646
    @amysimpson646 8 місяців тому +108

    A good father would NEVER abandon his children. Hes just as guilty. This lawyer is only making him look worse.

  • @verasalazar5152
    @verasalazar5152 8 місяців тому +3

    "He valued his family"
    **Proceds to go NO contact for MORE THAN ONE WHOLE YEAR**

  • @ladybgail
    @ladybgail 8 місяців тому +3

    He couldn’t look at his kids and see something was going on??? Can’t believe that

  • @GingerNinja1
    @GingerNinja1 8 місяців тому +84

    📣I CALL BULL! Any spouse that insists on the other parent abandoning their children while "working things out," is unacceptable!! He's a coward who turned a blind eye on his starving children making him complicit! He's 50% responsible for his kids too! & to his poor excuse of an atty... CHILDREN BEING EMACIATED IS NOT SUBJECTIVE! Was he a good dad too while ignoring the fact that his children were showing signs of starvation?! I'm shocked & offended that atty actually believes we're all that ignorant. 🤬

  • @stephanied6451
    @stephanied6451 8 місяців тому +69

    "He's struggling to make sense out of what's happened to him." HIM. Not what happened to his precious kids. He can't believe this is happening to himself.

    • @LaurieFloodTeacher
      @LaurieFloodTeacher 8 місяців тому +1

      MeTube

    • @dee8714
      @dee8714 8 місяців тому +1

      Because he’s a self centred narcissist whose only concern is for himself. 😡

    • @sunnymoondog
      @sunnymoondog 8 місяців тому +1

      I caught that too. Crazy.

    • @deannajan25
      @deannajan25 2 місяці тому +1

      Every adult player in this including Rudy's family speak about what happened to them. Nothing about what happened to the kids. They are all victims but the kids. Disgusting.

  • @justinjex1
    @justinjex1 8 місяців тому +41

    I have lived in Utah for 5 years now. This is absolutely typical of Utah mormon women. They have this weird control over what is going on in the household with men being detached from the day to day. This incident is extreme behavior by all means, yet the dynamics that have catalyzed this tragedy is absolutely a cultural staple in Utah. She seems to view herself as a princess that is always right about everything regardless of how much she knows about a particular situation. Got a lot of neighbors here exactly like that. Just pointing out my observations.

    • @Foxwolfpack
      @Foxwolfpack 8 місяців тому +5

      I am a "utah Mormon" ( latter day Saint) and that's not true at all. You've seen a few families like that clearly, and just use it to say it about everyone!!? This happens in some households all over the world across all beliefs here and there. This woman is just an awful woman and this dad is just an awful dad.... that is all.

    • @sbnl1214
      @sbnl1214 8 місяців тому +9

      @@Foxwolfpack
      Outsiders looking in is very telling. Maybe you are the outlier. But I tend to agree with the op. Mormans are all about how their behavior looks to others.

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson 8 місяців тому +12

      @@FoxwolfpackThere’s a reason why such a huge proportion of crazy, high-profile true crime stories come from Utah and/or involve Mormon beliefs influencing the crimes.

    • @choosegoodalways
      @choosegoodalways 8 місяців тому

      @@Richard.Atkinsoncrime is in every community!

    • @rosettemadrid7621
      @rosettemadrid7621 8 місяців тому

      I think people that are narcissistic and have things to hide, find places to hide. What better place than a church? Most people care about how they appear to others and most people are not Members of the same church. 🤷‍♀️

  • @jeanninebello9415
    @jeanninebello9415 8 місяців тому +17

    "He's a good dad..." any man how doesn't contact his children for a year, especially with yoing children, doesn't deserve to be called a dad. These parents are sorry excuses for humans and the ones who ultimately paid for it are the children.

  • @tmason2327
    @tmason2327 8 місяців тому +189

    Kevin is lying and he should be locked up right now. Shame on him for abandoning all of his kids. He deserves what’s coming.

    • @stutzbearcat5624
      @stutzbearcat5624 8 місяців тому

      I wish I could meet that father guy ... I'd have a few - questions - for this emasculated cretin.

    • @Emilypwilson
      @Emilypwilson 8 місяців тому +3

      I'm not supporting him but if you read what Jodi has done to other men in marriages this may change your view. She has genuinely forced them away from their children.

    • @deannajan25
      @deannajan25 2 місяці тому

      @@EmilypwilsonSorry but she did not have the power to force them from their children. They made a conscious decision to agree to Jodi's demands.

  • @lovalin4139
    @lovalin4139 8 місяців тому +688

    That’s so sad that he didn’t have any contact with his children over a year in order to save a marriage to this sick person. The fact he didn’t try to protect his children from his wife knowing what she is capable of, is just beyond comprehension. And what father would agree not to see his children for over a year and be ok with that? It’s so messed up

    • @aliciayu7917
      @aliciayu7917 8 місяців тому +18

      My thoughts exactly.

    • @elainecongo3827
      @elainecongo3827 8 місяців тому +17

      True! It doesn't make any sense

    • @Sinsteel
      @Sinsteel 8 місяців тому +48

      Didn't you know this is a classic strategy to save a marriage - move out and don't come back?

    • @sharebunnies9381
      @sharebunnies9381 8 місяців тому

      A brain washed manipulated one

    • @Stacey0909
      @Stacey0909 8 місяців тому +4

      ​@@Sinsteel🤭

  • @skylarlogan1999
    @skylarlogan1999 8 місяців тому +23

    Something like this happened to my sister. She believed that my nephews father would never put their kid in harms way and never went up to see the apartment that he was living in. I asked my sister to go look at the apartment because my nephew was complaining about not eating in random people coming up and with blinders she told me everything was fine. Turns out the apartment was a revolving door for drugs and prostitution and now my nephew is in therapy

  • @macandcheese9324
    @macandcheese9324 8 місяців тому +3

    A pathetic excuse for a father. I hope he does not get custody..and I hope he is not allowed to contact them. He never contacted them until now.

  • @rayr268
    @rayr268 8 місяців тому +1063

    The dad and everyone in the family played roles. Narcissists run these families and the witch needs flying her flying monkeys. Guaranteed the father took part in the scapegoating. The narcissist requires it.
    Her telling him to leave the house is just part of the constant drama a narcissist requires in their life.

    • @michelleg4069
      @michelleg4069 8 місяців тому +16

      👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @Nolasusan1
      @Nolasusan1 8 місяців тому +8

      Right on.

    • @ocucumber9461
      @ocucumber9461 8 місяців тому +27

      Facts facts facts 💯 👏 Too many people are easily manipulated by these fools. They created their own homeade prison camp for those poor kids TOGETHER! They both are some VAMPIRES

    • @JasthePhilo
      @JasthePhilo 8 місяців тому +18

      Facts. I think he was a flying monkey and definitely took pleasure from not being the scapegoat and placing tht role on someone else

    • @christinasegundo9790
      @christinasegundo9790 8 місяців тому +7

      You got it

  • @PollyAlice2000
    @PollyAlice2000 8 місяців тому +645

    I’m not too willing to believe that this man had such poor judgement that he would believe his wife telling him not to speak with his children for over a year was somehow going to be good for his family. I don’t know any father who would agree to that. He may not have committed any chargeable crimes, but he sure isn’t my idea of a father.
    Those poor children need lots and lots of kindness and love, and they deserve to be around normal decent adults. I just don’t know if he qualifies.
    Hoping that those two women do not get any bail, and remain in jail where they belong.

    • @adamsavage2646
      @adamsavage2646 8 місяців тому +28

      im glad people are realizing women do in fact control some relationships and the men arent in complete control of the wifes actions

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 8 місяців тому +12

      18 months is way too long.

    • @chocolatechip12
      @chocolatechip12 8 місяців тому +48

      @@adamsavage2646 But he's in control of his OWN actions. He could have had contact with his kids if he'd wanted to.

    • @christinasegundo9790
      @christinasegundo9790 8 місяців тому +35

      He knew what she was doing before Jodi even came along

    • @TheAwesomes2104
      @TheAwesomes2104 8 місяців тому +46

      If you willingly go over a year without checking in on your children, you don't want to be a father.

  • @clarissa8477
    @clarissa8477 8 місяців тому +7

    What a weak man. It’s hard to believe a husband and father would allow someone, anyone, to tell him he’s better off not communicating with his kids. It sounds ridiculous, and he should be embarrassed.

  • @Zoeybelle13
    @Zoeybelle13 8 місяців тому +14

    This man is just as guilty as his wife. Period. I don’t believe a word his attorney is saying. 😣

    • @saratullas5509
      @saratullas5509 8 місяців тому +2

      It’s so clear this is just damage control but in fact it seems to have done more damage. Funny how every question the attorney was asked that he couldn’t twist in his clients favor, he just said “no comment” or “I can’t comment”

  • @kweenz109
    @kweenz109 8 місяців тому +742

    If any of their kids are reading this: YOUR PARENTS WERE WRONG AND ABUSIVE! Please break the cycle and raise your kids with love, security and comfort. We all see and hear you, you'll get through this and you have our well wishes and support.

    • @Tachunda
      @Tachunda 8 місяців тому +21

      Amen

    • @Crystal_CNY
      @Crystal_CNY 8 місяців тому +22

      100%!! So much love for those children!

    • @KimSearch865
      @KimSearch865 8 місяців тому +18

      Yes! May they all have learned how NOT to parent their own kids one day!! May they all fully heal from this nightmare!! Bless them!! 💖✨🙏✨

    • @julieutley2073
      @julieutley2073 8 місяців тому +10

      Let's hope it makes them strong, not emotional wrecks. Seems the eldest son who fought his way out and to a neighbor for help sounds like he is.

    • @kowgyrl
      @kowgyrl 8 місяців тому +8

      !!Yes!! Be the one that breaks the cycle! Sending my love and strength....💗🕊

  • @soniamoloney6206
    @soniamoloney6206 8 місяців тому +174

    The fact that the eldest daughter didn’t include her own dad in her happy Father’s Day post says it all .

    • @psychedelic.dreamer
      @psychedelic.dreamer 8 місяців тому +11

      Yes!!

    • @victorialuna2202
      @victorialuna2202 8 місяців тому +32

      He is a teacher and some of his students left bad reviews of him being angry and yelling at his students. Just like he probably was with his kids when cámaras where off and they didn’t have to fake smiles
      To show a happy family. He is awful.

    • @amyholman354
      @amyholman354 8 місяців тому +17

      I hope Shari and Chad are supporting each other.

    • @harper_anne2089
      @harper_anne2089 8 місяців тому +15

      @@amyholman354 I hope Shari and Chad spill the beans regarding Kevin, and save their siblings.

    • @ahill4642
      @ahill4642 8 місяців тому +5

      All the kids surely feel abandoned by him, and that is no small thing.

  • @jenniferbutler6797
    @jenniferbutler6797 8 місяців тому +2

    Did he not see him kids for months and months? What a good dad.

  • @jaydasobol354
    @jaydasobol354 8 місяців тому +3

    Other news sources said that they were watching her for months. There were lots of complaints. Neighbors said police were there

  • @CocoNoir2020
    @CocoNoir2020 8 місяців тому +260

    This man completely failed his children. Working on the marriage is one thing but denying your children both parents is another. He was ok not talking to or checking in on his kids. What a punk weak minded man.

    • @simplyamom9475
      @simplyamom9475 8 місяців тому +3

      I have a feel this is a parental alienation case.

    • @saran3214
      @saran3214 8 місяців тому

      ​@@simplyamom9475The mother can't alienate the kids against the father when they hate her. The kids know their father is a weak spineless man who failed them.

    • @niccolea2086
      @niccolea2086 8 місяців тому +2

      And exactly how are you working on a marriage that you’re no longer in? Ridiculous

    • @simplyamom9475
      @simplyamom9475 8 місяців тому +2

      @@saran3214 yes most narcissistic women go for weaker men this is known and idk why you think the kids have to love the parent who's doing the alienation but they don't have too.

    • @saran3214
      @saran3214 8 місяців тому

      @@simplyamom9475 I said the kids hate the mom. How did you turn that into me saying the kids had to love her?

  • @blingfire1850
    @blingfire1850 8 місяців тому +375

    Yeah right, I had this father, of course he knew. Passive to the point of absolving himself of any responsibility and putting his abusive wife ahead of his children. Now he's playing the victim and wants everyone to believe he's an innocent little saint. Absolute rubbish.
    Have you heard Jodi's history and the trail of victims she has left behind her? That woman is an absolute monster.

  • @cam.singer
    @cam.singer 8 місяців тому +3

    his attorney is lying through his teeth

  • @susancummings-voncluck9046
    @susancummings-voncluck9046 8 місяців тому

    I appreciate hearing from this attorney. More information to come.

  • @This_handle_is_tak3n
    @This_handle_is_tak3n 8 місяців тому +138

    Sounds like he should be looked into as well. His lawyer did him no favors here. Despicable parents.

    • @Ms.Prairie
      @Ms.Prairie 8 місяців тому +14

      Yep, if I was on the prosecution team, I’d be salivating. 😂😂

    • @FourSeasons04
      @FourSeasons04 8 місяців тому +8

      Oh my, can't believe he thought this interview was a good idea. How do you not see your kids in many months 'cause wifey says it's for the best. At the very least, it highlights Kevin as incredibly weak. Wow!

    • @lastjob2011
      @lastjob2011 8 місяців тому +2

      That is one of the lamest excuses I've ever heard. Please! Practice the lies out loud!! Sounds ridiculous?? Try a different lie.

  • @VioletJoy
    @VioletJoy 8 місяців тому +367

    1. It sounds very clear who wore the pants in the family
    2. Kevin is a grown man and is very well aware of the damage that happens to a child's psyche when they're abandoned.
    3. I wonder if he was brainwashed, afraid of Ruby, or if he just got out of there and wiped his hands clean.
    Reading between the lines, it's obvious why this attorney keeps repeating that Kevin "didn't PHYSICALLY discipline his children." There are many other ways to torture children. I'm sickened that he has the nerve to say that Kevin is a good dad. Maybe he wasn't as abusive as Ruby, but he abandoned his children!!

    • @desirae3455
      @desirae3455 8 місяців тому +16

      Listen again. Kevin did not "get out of there" he was asked to leave and told to abandon his kids in the hopes of reconciling with Ruby. All he cared about was getting back with Ruby.

    • @Charliebeth
      @Charliebeth 8 місяців тому +13

      Point 3 is something I've been questioning as well. Ruby, from what I've heard, sounds like a narcissists and I wonder about the dynamics of this whole family. Something sounds off...

    • @cindyliao2250
      @cindyliao2250 8 місяців тому +11

      You are right. He is far from good dad. Good dad check on his kids.

    • @rivkahmiri513
      @rivkahmiri513 8 місяців тому +12

      ​@@CharliebethNarcissistic for sure. I'm a licensed clinical social worker and grew up with a extremely narcissistic father. I agree with you. He's guilty of being naive and controlled with fear. He also is extremely, extremely passive, a perfect target for narcissists.Jody sounds clearly psychopathic. she had her license revoked for a while. I heard an interview with Jody's nice and the Mormon stories podcast, as well as with Adam Paul Steed Jody's done horrible things that are unspeakable and a Master Manipulation to the farthest degree. I hope Ruby and Jody spend a lot of time in prison. I do feel bad heaven but I just wish she could have at least check up on the kids.

    • @rivkahmiri513
      @rivkahmiri513 8 місяців тому +3

      ​@@CharliebethNarcissistic for sure. I'm a licensed clinical social worker and grew up with a extremely narcissistic father. I agree with you. He's guilty of being naive and controlled with fear. He also is extremely, extremely passive, a perfect target for narcissists.Jody sounds clearly psychopathic. she had her license revoked for a while. I heard an interview with Jody's nice and the Mormon stories podcast, as well as with Adam Paul Steed Jody's done horrible things that are unspeakable and a Master Manipulation to the farthest degree. I hope Ruby and Jody spend a lot of time in prison. I do feel bad heaven but I just wish she could have at least check up on the kids.

  • @blondiex3308
    @blondiex3308 8 місяців тому

    Great interview

  • @SpaceCase6669-myOf
    @SpaceCase6669-myOf 8 місяців тому +5

    Even if the dad was calling the kids, ruby is the kind of narcissistic control freak that she’d stand there and monitor the phone calls. Abusers are sneaky and secretive because they KNOW they’re wrong. Hence the reason she isolated the children from him and the rest of the world

  • @Lenore4Evermore
    @Lenore4Evermore 8 місяців тому +172

    He is accused of being complacent and allowing his kids to be tortured. Disgrace. He should never have those children again.

  • @user-hx7to2ov6x
    @user-hx7to2ov6x 8 місяців тому +426

    I can't help but notice, at 12:55 and onwards, the lawyer denying specifically just physical violence but clearly intentionally and carefully not mentioning the 'psychological violence/torture'...I'd say that's enough to put his client in jail because this lawyer knows his client is also guilty in this. It's appalling.

    • @irishcailin3570
      @irishcailin3570 8 місяців тому +34

      Yessss I caught that also , the "especially not in a physical way" because he knows well that those poor kids were traumatised by him @20:09

    • @saran3214
      @saran3214 8 місяців тому +41

      Ruby will tell on Kevin. She's going to drag him to jail, she's not going alone.

    • @marcelatingle9564
      @marcelatingle9564 8 місяців тому +11

      Very good point! No mention of NEGLECT either.

    • @lizdog1111
      @lizdog1111 8 місяців тому +11

      It's a father's NUMBER ONE JOB to make sure his kids are ok! OK!? G@D dammit!

    • @rforresterbrown
      @rforresterbrown 8 місяців тому +1

      Same thing I was thinking

  • @Millaxnicole
    @Millaxnicole 8 місяців тому

    Great follow up questions

  • @carly9950
    @carly9950 8 місяців тому +4

    That is a huge red flag that she was trying to even keep the kids from their dad as well. If my spouse told me that I had to stay away from my kids to salvage the marriage I would tell them to kiss it! That is the most absurd thing I’ve ever heard. He should have never thought that was ok!

  • @MidwestLife87
    @MidwestLife87 8 місяців тому +69

    I call TOTAL B.S. !!!!
    As a Father, no matter what RUBY was saying to KEVIN , KEVIN should be ON TOP of where his kids are , how they are doing , and ABSOLUTELY have visitation with all the kids weekly at a minimum!! They weren’t divorced, he legally could see those kids WHENEVER & KEVIN ABSOLUTELY has a part in ALL of this !!! I hope the kids are able to all get back together, but I hope they are kept away from the EVIL and WACKY Parents & the Cult they are part of … EVIL 👹

  • @_Kittensworth
    @_Kittensworth 8 місяців тому +257

    The husband claiming that he was "shocked" by this makes him look more guilty. This has been escalating for years.

    • @npacknoski
      @npacknoski 8 місяців тому +4

      exactly if he is shocked, it means hes far from perfect and is agreeing to the parenting style. This is not right! if he gets the kids back i believe there should be a social worker coming daily for 6 months

    • @mad7fisher
      @mad7fisher 8 місяців тому +9

      Imagine his kids "Dad. why didn't you help me? Why did you let this happen to me?" It's freaking heartbreaking and infuriating.

  • @catherinestokes198
    @catherinestokes198 8 місяців тому +3

    He's just as responsible for what happened to those children as she is.

  • @BKHockeyTalk
    @BKHockeyTalk 8 місяців тому +5

    So the oldest daughter knew and and said “finally” when the mom got arrested…but the dad had absolutely no idea any of this is going on….yeah ok. I’ll play along…

  • @ShannonGilpatrick
    @ShannonGilpatrick 8 місяців тому +120

    This lawyer just made his client look worse than he already did. What kind of father ceases contact with their kids because his estranged wife tells him to?

    • @TurkReid
      @TurkReid 8 місяців тому +7

      All so she will like him again and take him back

    • @ShannonGilpatrick
      @ShannonGilpatrick 8 місяців тому +13

      @@TurkReid Exactly. The fact that he even WANTED to be with her after she told him to stop talking to his children speaks volumes. He picked his marriage to an abuser over his kids.

    • @sarasays...850
      @sarasays...850 8 місяців тому +13

      The kind of father that has secrets

    • @theonlyonewithgum1452
      @theonlyonewithgum1452 8 місяців тому +6

      @@sarasays...850 You know... you might be on to something. He either doesn't care a lick about them kids, or he's got worse stuff to hide.

    • @ariga2696
      @ariga2696 8 місяців тому +1

      they are mormon. their family and wife is their way to heaven.

  • @subaru7233
    @subaru7233 8 місяців тому +242

    I was a noncustodial mom for about 9 years. My ex moved my sons 200 miles away. I took him to court for visitation and every other weekend we met at a halfway point on Friday eve and Sunday eve. I would never have let him tell me it would be better for my boys not to see them even for a month. This man is no wonderful dad. What a sick situation.

    • @Nightdreaux22647
      @Nightdreaux22647 8 місяців тому +8

      The kids should speak for themselves and testify. What they feel and experienced. Ask if they like their parents or not

  • @kellywestphal756
    @kellywestphal756 8 місяців тому +3

    “He’s a good dad”. A good dad would know if his children were malnourished.

  • @ericanthony8455
    @ericanthony8455 8 місяців тому +7

    I went through Kids Helping Kids. Same psychological torture. Created dissociation, a perverted sense of familial love, shame that killed a lot of the people I went through the program with, an ability to completely manipulate and lie to people, a keen sense of everyone else’s character defects, and a general distrust of “the science”. Teach kids how to survive abusive situations and you create little monsters.

  • @nuckinfuts7610
    @nuckinfuts7610 8 місяців тому +64

    This is a "dad" who proudly and publicly announced that he is not, nor should he be, responsible for the level of happiness in his children's childhood. That is just one, just one of MANY absurb claims he's openly made with great pride and comfort. He knowingly and willingly abandoned his kids, leaving them with fellow monsters.

  • @We-are-star-stuff
    @We-are-star-stuff 8 місяців тому +111

    His wife was doing things way before Jodi. I’m sure she made it way worse but it was clear on her blog and social media she was being cruel to them children for years!

  • @marshaparrott3125
    @marshaparrott3125 8 місяців тому +1

    I pray all of them heal emotionally from this terrible situation 🙏🙏🙏

  • @rebeccaborrill1013
    @rebeccaborrill1013 8 місяців тому +2

    There are videos of him discussing types of punishment dished out to the kids. He was fully on board sending his son to a behaviour camp in the desert !!

  • @Hawk89gt
    @Hawk89gt 8 місяців тому +216

    This is nuts that a father wouldn't want to talk to his kids, this just doesn't make sense.

    • @jeremysmith9694
      @jeremysmith9694 8 місяців тому +7

      If my wife's friend was Jodi I might not want to either. He dodged a huge giant bullet. And jail time.

    • @denisew1095
      @denisew1095 8 місяців тому +12

      Right! My ex would have been right at my door if I tried to keep the kids from him. I wouldn’t do such a thing. Thank God we’re not like most divorced couples and put the kids in the middle.

    • @bjmehl2009
      @bjmehl2009 8 місяців тому +3

      Who said he didn’t want to talk to his kids?

    • @decadeofmcfly
      @decadeofmcfly 8 місяців тому

      You'd just abandon your kids to their mother and a crazy friend? That's not being a father. My brother's baby mama neglects their kids to an extent (like spending all the money and then asking him to buy them stuff...) You know what he does when faced with that? He fights for his kids. He has full custody of one of them now, and he ensures the other two (one which isn't biologically his but he raised) want for nothing. He fights day in and day out for his children. Because they are HIS RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT.@@jeremysmith9694

    • @iced.autumn
      @iced.autumn 8 місяців тому

      He knew what was going on and left those kids with her. He is a coward. If he cared, he would have done something to get those kids out of there because he knew exactly how her and Jodi were. Remember, this is the same guy who let his 2 youngest go without Christmas while they watched the others get presents. They are BOTH sick and sadistic. Again, he is a coward with his tail between his legs trying to justify why he deserted his kids. He's a total POS

  • @ramonamarsh8599
    @ramonamarsh8599 8 місяців тому +68

    He could have fought for visitation. The wife asking him to have no contacts with his children is ABSURD. He didn't care.

    • @monicamavian5214
      @monicamavian5214 8 місяців тому

      Deadbeat dad

    • @sharebunnies9381
      @sharebunnies9381 8 місяців тому +1

      I bet they convinced him he was evil and a bad influence on the children

  • @Maeve2001
    @Maeve2001 8 місяців тому +5

    “ he’s a wonderful father, he’s provided for these children even in his absence” yeah, except food and water. What a horrific parent and an corrupt lawyer for supporting that claim.!!!!!

  • @FatRaptor123
    @FatRaptor123 8 місяців тому +2

    I was really impressed with this interview. Very polite, but didn't let let him wriggle out of too much.

  • @karenrollins9578
    @karenrollins9578 8 місяців тому +376

    This doesn’t fly. I’ve been alienated from my child & whenever I’ve had any questions as to how she was being treated, I’ve had zero issues with requesting a child welfare check. My child and her well-being far surpass my concern for what her father wants, ESPECIALLY when I’m having to worry about how he’s treating her. This man is without excuse.

    • @pattikonieczny1691
      @pattikonieczny1691 8 місяців тому

      He's full of S*I*... DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING HE'S SAYING.....
      HE'S NO VICTIM.... THEY
      BETTER NOT GIVEN HIM THOSE KIDS!!!

    • @Stonezster
      @Stonezster 8 місяців тому +4

      I figure you must get a lot of people judging you for abandoning your child. This woman has no excuse!

    • @mirrojas
      @mirrojas 8 місяців тому +8

      Exactly, he has right to know his child’s well being & he chose not to use them apparently. He could’ve done more.

    • @karenrollins9578
      @karenrollins9578 8 місяців тому

      @@Stonezster the way that alienation works is that your child is hidden from you & you aren’t responded to when you try to make contact. Hope you never have to know what that feels like.

    • @niccolea2086
      @niccolea2086 8 місяців тому

      Who is “her” that you keep mentioning?

  • @tbonimaroni
    @tbonimaroni 8 місяців тому +273

    It implies guilt that she called him before she was arrested. If you think you are about to be arrested for something you know that you've done something wrong.

    • @sarahseabrook5966
      @sarahseabrook5966 8 місяців тому +20

      Probably when she saw that the child had escaped.

    • @mareneaufrance5096
      @mareneaufrance5096 8 місяців тому +21

      She probably told Kevin, don't say this, don't say that...control what's being talked about.

    • @RickiLanders
      @RickiLanders 8 місяців тому +5

      Of course she knew she would be arrested, they had already raided Jody’s home and taken her kids by then.

    • @B-ch6uk
      @B-ch6uk 8 місяців тому +1

      @@RickiLanders Why were the kids at Jody's house? Didn't Ruby live there too?

    • @lauriedonnelly7134
      @lauriedonnelly7134 8 місяців тому

      💯

  • @Tatjana_m
    @Tatjana_m 8 місяців тому +10

    The fact he wanted to be together with her and literally chose ‘preserving his marriage’ OVER having ANY type of relationship with his kids at all, should tell us EVERYTHING we need to know. He has the same twisted mindset as she does.
    He does not care about their well being and he will never put them first. His concern is Ruby. Following rubys instructions. He is a puppet in her play.
    Disgusting.

  • @christinavaughn6273
    @christinavaughn6273 8 місяців тому +3

    Such a sad case. 🤦‍♀️ Poor children. 💔

  • @hannahwilder1791
    @hannahwilder1791 8 місяців тому +164

    This interview did Kevin ZERO favors...
    There is no excuse for abandoning your kids and going almost no contact for over a year. Even if he didn't know what was going on, at the very least that is complete negligence.

    • @mcjunk
      @mcjunk 8 місяців тому

      The kids were with their mum... they should not have been in danger !!! It's not like he left the kids with complete strangers 🤨

    • @hannahwilder1791
      @hannahwilder1791 8 місяців тому +2

      @@mcjunk Of course they should have been safe with their mother, but obviously they weren't. If he had been in contact with them, seeing them in person regularly, etc. he would have clearly seen that something nefarious was going on. They were emaciated and had open wounds...that doesn't happen in a day, that's something that progresses over time. Again, he would have been able to observe that had he been seeing them regularly.
      I don't know how a father could ever agree to not seeing his children for that long. That is extremely suspicious and neglectful.

    • @GemVitale
      @GemVitale 8 місяців тому +1

      Surely lying

    • @MissDivaNL
      @MissDivaNL 8 місяців тому

      ​@GemVitale
      Absolutely and I'm just 7 minutes into the video

    • @stephaniecervantes5515
      @stephaniecervantes5515 8 місяців тому +1

      I think it's SO ODD that the lawyer would agree to speak about a case that is current and ongoing...doesn't this show he's trying to do major damage control, yet its ultimately at the expense of the case?

  • @varnamackie1570
    @varnamackie1570 8 місяців тому +63

    Has anybody bothered to think about why the boy wasn't wanting his first call at the Neighbours to be his loving reliable dad?? He knew that wouldn't help him, so his only other option was the police out of all the other family members. I hope he was put up to sneaking out like he did and telling authorities otherwise this would of never stopped.

    • @Calmontheoutside
      @Calmontheoutside 8 місяців тому +4

      Excellent point.

    • @Ms.Prairie
      @Ms.Prairie 8 місяців тому

      Holy smokes, I didn’t even think of that! 😮

    • @desirae3455
      @desirae3455 8 місяців тому +1

      Great point!

    • @MrsServion
      @MrsServion 8 місяців тому

      I'm not by any means sticking up for Kevin but I will say that the mind f*** these poor children went through by their mother they probably were being manipulated to hate their father, thus they didn't feel safe to call him for help.

  • @bonniegiehl2498
    @bonniegiehl2498 8 місяців тому +2

    He’s been a great father but hasn’t seen his children in over a year- father of the year right there!

  • @loridunn5754
    @loridunn5754 8 місяців тому +3

    NO ONE would keep me away from my kids let alone for a year. He's just now retained an attorney ? That tells me all I need to know. Yeah Kevin, you're a great guy.

  • @jec8of
    @jec8of 8 місяців тому +178

    It's inconceivable to me that the father of these children didn't agree with Ruby's parenting and then became an absent parent. He was part of her extreme parenting and then abdicated his responsibility to make sure those children were safe. I believe he's a weak man who is so smitten and enthralled with his wife that she is all he cares about. Men who believe in their wife beyond reason go along with a lot of crazy stuff even if it harms their children. He should not have unsupervised access to those children as he cannot be trusted to not manipulate them in order to defend his wife.

  • @cateellington4081
    @cateellington4081 8 місяців тому +639

    This lawyer blaming the media reporter instead of Ruby Franke -for her absolutely disgusting court statement- is disgusting all by itself.

    • @wotiluv
      @wotiluv 8 місяців тому +50

      Right? Boy oh boy this PR stunt by the lawyer just didn’t go over well

    • @dyawr
      @dyawr 8 місяців тому +18

      Fr, it was an *open* hearing from what I understand, if the press could be there. It's not like reporters snuck in clandestinely or smth. 🙄
      He should place his anger where it belongs, *on his wife* (and Jodi). Who has literally damaged the reputation of her son for the rest of his life, prob...

    • @maryjane4432
      @maryjane4432 8 місяців тому +14

      @@dyawrhe was just as much involved. They treated those kids horribly. After her third baby 💩 went down hill

    • @1gearwrench
      @1gearwrench 8 місяців тому +8

      Juvenile court is private and protected.

    • @ladylaois8184
      @ladylaois8184 8 місяців тому

      I agree typical

  • @DaniellaYIbsen
    @DaniellaYIbsen 8 місяців тому +2

    What "good Dad" doesn't check on his kids or visit them for over a year?? BS here!! 😡

  • @Bulgariangirl96
    @Bulgariangirl96 8 місяців тому +1

    As if abandoning your children is any better than hurting them

  • @christinaweinmangeriatrics1689
    @christinaweinmangeriatrics1689 8 місяців тому +52

    She knew the cops were coming bc Jodi found out the son was missing and she went around looking for him. She pulled up by the police and they said they were looking for her she then called Ruby and told her that the son was being taken to the hospital Ruby went to the hospital and fled once they told her the police were coming to talk to her. Kevin then went to the house and Ruby was arrested.

  • @th1s1guysays1
    @th1s1guysays1 8 місяців тому +106

    That man is just as evil as the mother! Ain’t no friggin way this guy had absolute NO CLUE as to what was happening. That attorney is full of crap!

  • @LXS1303
    @LXS1303 8 місяців тому +7

    I cannot with this lawyer! JODI was the spearhead? Excuse me? Who were the parents of those kids-Ruby and Kevin! Stop it!!

    • @saratullas5509
      @saratullas5509 8 місяців тому

      This lawyer is a piece of work, spinning every answer to benefit Kevin and saying “no comment” to questions he can’t spin. I wonder if he realizes he stepped over the wrong line in the eyes of the world and how embarrassing