Leeanne Ladin--the Secretariat Tourism Manager for the Meadow Event Park talks about how the Meadow Stable hit it big with first Riva Ridge and then Secretariat.
I love the way that she spoke in the video her enthusiasm and her the intelligence in her of the way she spoke a very very good video I would’ve liked to have seen that go on for a lot longer than three minutes
I knew Secretariat went to Claiborne (No.1 stall in stud barn same as his sire didn’t realize Riva went there as well many of the stalls have the nameplates or their former residents it’s a noted breeding establishment with excellent stallions😬
I thought they really didn't weigh the heart, but just estimated the size? Also, Winx, according to one vet, has very high oxygen turnover compared to her body size and he feels that she has a big heart! There is a pic up on her Twitter feed now (Nov. 20) that shows her from a side view as she is snacking at a feeder. She is all chest! Her hindquarters look slim and sloping ....but that front end...WOW! I met LeeAnn 2 years ago...she took me around on a private tour as the Fair had just closed...The big "poster" of Sec was kept up for my visit...and trust me, he was HUGE!!!!
Who won that Triple Crown in 1948? A horse named Citation from Calumet Farm. He won the TC after the Derby and Preakness were both run in the mud. He had raced 10 times before the Derby, losing only one 6f sprint after being forced wide by another horse and only losing by a length. After that, he ran 20 times as a 3 year old, not losing a race, 15 straight races, including races with older horses. Every length. He ran the Sysonby Mile on Wednesday against top older horses, including the great Coaltown, beat them all, then on THAT Saturday, 3 days, ran the Jockey Club Gold Cup, then run at 2 miles, and beat every stayer at their own game, including the Argeneine Miss Grillo, who still holds the record at 2-1/2 miles. After that he was sent to CA to race. He traveled in a boxcar. Ran on a rotten track and was injured and had to sit out his 4th year. Lots of smart horsement say if he hadn't been injured he would have been the greatest horse of all time. Citation did things Sec could only dream of doing. In the Gold Cup, he went right to the front and stayed there until the very end 2 miles later, when another horse started to gain on him, Arcaro just asked him to run a bit faster. Turn of foot extraordinaire.
I can do that too. Secretariat showed a versatility at the end of his career Citation did not attempt, winning the Man o' War and Canadian International on the grass. The former was achieved in 2:24 4/5 for 1 1/2 miles, a course record which stood for nearly two decades. Secretariat beat what must be considered one of the all-time great fields in the inaugural Marlboro Cup in 1973. Among the vanquished were champions and/or Hall of Fame inductees Riva Ridge, Key to the Mint, and Cougar II; Canadian Horse of the Year Kennedy Road; and his surprise Whitney conqueror Onion. All this in world-record time of 1:45 2/5 for 1 1/8 miles. Now let's check the Triple Crown times. Kentuck Derby: Citation - 2:05 2/5 Secretariat - 1:59 2/5 Preakness: Citation - 2:02 2/5 (sloppy track, not entirely fair) Secretariat - 1:53 (that is still almost 10 seconds faster) Belmont: Citation - 2:28 1/5 Secretariat - 2:24 Secretariat's three triple crown record times still stand today, almost 5 decades later. Citation was great. Secretariat was great. Secretariat was better. Citation lost double the number of races Secretariat did., while Secretariat faced tougher competition and greater parity in my opinion. Secretariat also never raced as a 4 year old and retired as a three year old. So comparing anything after the age of 3 is pointless.
@@HTHAMMACK1 I wouldn't really agree that Secretariat faced tougher competition. Sham and a few others were all he really had to worry about. He never raced anyone better than Sham, either. Besides, records aren't everything. Citation ran on tracks Secretariat wouldn't dream of. Slop, mud, turf, dirt... etc. the colt could do about anything. The pace was never fast in the earlier years of the Triple Crown races, usually due to that fact that horses were raced too closely together (meaning that would sometimes run only a few days to a week later). The timer was always slow because they were tired from their previous runs. If Citation had spaced his races, he would've had better times, just like every other horse.
Brenlee Gentry More specifically, Penny's father Christopher T. Chenery (owner of Meadow Stable / Stud) died in January 1973. So on inheriting the farm Penny, her sister & brother had to pay estate taxes of 70%. That meant either selling the farm and all the horses or syndicating breeding rights for Riva Ridge & Secretariat and keeping the farm and most of the other horses. Seth Hancock of Claiborne arranged the syndication - selling shares, each share entitles shareholder to one service per season. Secretariat's 32 shares sold for $190,000 each for total $6.08 million - this was completed before he raced as a 3 year old - and the conditions included that Meadow would earn race purses and decide what races to enter, he would retire to stud immediately if he raced poorly as a 3 year old, and even if he did well, he would not race as a 4 year old. Claiborne Farm had 4 shares, Meadow had one or two I believe. Lucien Lauren was given a share (not counted in the 32), but it could not be transferred to his wife or son, say, when he passed. Riva Ridge was syndicated for $5.12 million.
The owner of the farm that owned him died and the estate taxes had to be paid. The two horses were syndicated and the group of owners wanted him in the breeding shed making money for them, and not taking chances on him getting hurt on the track.
Angela P Well, the members of the syndicate didn't make money by filling Secretariat's book. The $190,000 membership fee entitled each member to 1 (one) cover per season.the only way that makes them money is when the resulting offspring is sold at auction or wins racing purses. Yeah, they may have occasionally sold a season's services, or a share of their share. But it was a syndication - it's not done anymore. Only 1 mare per year per member. This is why it's amazing that Secretariat is in so many pedigrees - he sired only 663 named foals. (Based on syndication info I calculated 32 mares × 16 years = 512, so apparently there were some extra covers in there somehow. Need to research that.) Secretariat wasn't shuttled to Australia or South America for a second season. Stallions that stand for a fee can cover as many mares as are sent (within reason.). The syndicate members had to have or purchase suitable mares. Seth Hancock actually had difficulty getting people to buy in. In the end, it may not have been the ideal choice of members - it was whoever was willing to take a chance with that high investment - not necessarily those with the right mares. There wasn't the hypo(thetcal)-mating / "True Nicks" software as now. They had to figure out the nicks for Secretariat by trial and error. Example: Taylormade screens mares for pedigree before approving them for service by California Chrome. They want him to have success early in his career. This will ensure stud fee increase later. Stud fees didn't go up (or down) for Secretariat with demand. You may have a great mare to breed to him, but if not a syndicate member you're out of luck. And syndicate members would have great mares but perhaps not the BEST match. So I'm thankful that he produced great broodmares: Weekend Surprise (AP Indy, Summer Squall), Terlingua (Storm Cat), Secretame (Gone West), Sister Dot (Dehere, Danesis), and Six Crowns (Chief's Crown).
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any more videos of this lady explaining secretariat legacy? She's doing a lovely job
In two consecutive years these two Chenery bred and trained horses won 5 out of 6 Triple Crown races. THAT is a record for the ages.
I love the way that she spoke in the video her enthusiasm and her the intelligence in her of the way she spoke a very very good video I would’ve liked to have seen that go on for a lot longer than three minutes
I knew the answer to her question. It was 25 years since Citation won the Triple Crown in 1948. I knew about Riva Ridge also.
I had the incredible pleasure of meeting both Riva Ridge and Secretariat at Claiborne Farms
I knew Secretariat went to Claiborne (No.1 stall in stud barn same as his sire didn’t realize Riva went there as well many of the stalls have the nameplates or their former residents it’s a noted breeding establishment with excellent stallions😬
And Sham also had a large heart.
Yep, 18 lbs. He and Red were related on dams side.
Secretariat's Momma had the PERFECT name.
Secretariat is my favorite racehorse and I know all about him.
I thought they really didn't weigh the heart, but just estimated the size?
Also, Winx, according to one vet, has very high oxygen turnover compared to her body size and he feels that she has a big heart! There is a pic up on her Twitter feed now (Nov. 20) that shows her from a side view as she is snacking at a feeder. She is all chest! Her hindquarters look slim and sloping ....but that front end...WOW!
I met LeeAnn 2 years ago...she took me around on a private tour as the Fair had just closed...The big "poster" of Sec was kept up for my visit...and trust me, he was HUGE!!!!
Tell us about Canonero the 2nd The swayback that sold for 1200 dollars.Or how Sham out preform the great one at stud.
Just how many Horses of the Year or Preakness & Belmont stakes winners has Sham sired?
Who won that Triple Crown in 1948? A horse named Citation from Calumet Farm. He won the TC after the Derby and Preakness were both run in the mud. He had raced 10 times before the Derby, losing only one 6f sprint after being forced wide by another horse and only losing by a length.
After that, he ran 20 times as a 3 year old, not losing a race, 15 straight races, including races with older horses. Every length.
He ran the Sysonby Mile on Wednesday against top older horses, including the great Coaltown, beat them all, then on THAT Saturday, 3 days, ran the Jockey Club Gold Cup, then run at 2 miles, and beat every stayer at their own game, including the Argeneine Miss Grillo, who still holds the record at 2-1/2 miles. After that he was sent to CA to race. He traveled in a boxcar. Ran on a rotten track and was injured and had to sit out his 4th year. Lots of smart horsement say if he hadn't been injured he would have been the greatest horse of all time.
Citation did things Sec could only dream of doing. In the Gold Cup, he went right to the front and stayed there until the very end 2 miles later, when another horse started to gain on him, Arcaro just asked him to run a bit faster. Turn of foot extraordinaire.
At what age?
At what age did Citation do what Secretariat couldn't do?
I can do that too.
Secretariat showed a versatility at the end of his career Citation did not attempt, winning the Man o' War and Canadian International on the grass. The former was achieved in 2:24 4/5 for 1 1/2 miles, a course record which stood for nearly two decades.
Secretariat beat what must be considered one of the all-time great fields in the inaugural Marlboro Cup in 1973. Among the vanquished were champions and/or Hall of Fame inductees Riva Ridge, Key to the Mint, and Cougar II; Canadian Horse of the Year Kennedy Road; and his surprise Whitney conqueror Onion. All this in world-record time of 1:45 2/5 for 1 1/8 miles.
Now let's check the Triple Crown times.
Kentuck Derby:
Citation - 2:05 2/5
Secretariat - 1:59 2/5
Preakness:
Citation - 2:02 2/5 (sloppy track, not entirely fair)
Secretariat - 1:53 (that is still almost 10 seconds faster)
Belmont:
Citation - 2:28 1/5
Secretariat - 2:24
Secretariat's three triple crown record times still stand today, almost 5 decades later.
Citation was great. Secretariat was great. Secretariat was better. Citation lost double the number of races Secretariat did., while Secretariat faced tougher competition and greater parity in my opinion. Secretariat also never raced as a 4 year old and retired as a three year old. So comparing anything after the age of 3 is pointless.
@@HTHAMMACK1 thank you!!
@@HTHAMMACK1 I wouldn't really agree that Secretariat faced tougher competition. Sham and a few others were all he really had to worry about. He never raced anyone better than Sham, either. Besides, records aren't everything. Citation ran on tracks Secretariat wouldn't dream of. Slop, mud, turf, dirt... etc. the colt could do about anything. The pace was never fast in the earlier years of the Triple Crown races, usually due to that fact that horses were raced too closely together (meaning that would sometimes run only a few days to a week later). The timer was always slow because they were tired from their previous runs. If Citation had spaced his races, he would've had better times, just like every other horse.
Why could he not race as a 4 year old I could not hear
Brenlee Gentry , they needed the money so he was sold
Brenlee Gentry More specifically, Penny's father Christopher T. Chenery (owner of Meadow Stable / Stud) died in January 1973. So on inheriting the farm Penny, her sister & brother had to pay estate taxes of 70%. That meant either selling the farm and all the horses or syndicating breeding rights for Riva Ridge & Secretariat and keeping the farm and most of the other horses. Seth Hancock of Claiborne arranged the syndication - selling shares, each share entitles shareholder to one service per season. Secretariat's 32 shares sold for $190,000 each for total $6.08 million - this was completed before he raced as a 3 year old - and the conditions included that Meadow would earn race purses and decide what races to enter, he would retire to stud immediately if he raced poorly as a 3 year old, and even if he did well, he would not race as a 4 year old. Claiborne Farm had 4 shares, Meadow had one or two I believe. Lucien Lauren was given a share (not counted in the 32), but it could not be transferred to his wife or son, say, when he passed. Riva Ridge was syndicated for $5.12 million.
The owner of the farm that owned him died and the estate taxes had to be paid. The two horses were syndicated and the group of owners wanted him in the breeding shed making money for them, and not taking chances on him getting hurt on the track.
Angela P Well, the members of the syndicate didn't make money by filling Secretariat's book. The $190,000 membership fee entitled each member to 1 (one) cover per season.the only way that makes them money is when the resulting offspring is sold at auction or wins racing purses. Yeah, they may have occasionally sold a season's services, or a share of their share. But it was a syndication - it's not done anymore. Only 1 mare per year per member. This is why it's amazing that Secretariat is in so many pedigrees - he sired only 663 named foals. (Based on syndication info I calculated 32 mares × 16 years = 512, so apparently there were some extra covers in there somehow. Need to research that.) Secretariat wasn't shuttled to Australia or South America for a second season. Stallions that stand for a fee can cover as many mares as are sent (within reason.). The syndicate members had to have or purchase suitable mares. Seth Hancock actually had difficulty getting people to buy in. In the end, it may not have been the ideal choice of members - it was whoever was willing to take a chance with that high investment - not necessarily those with the right mares. There wasn't the hypo(thetcal)-mating / "True Nicks" software as now. They had to figure out the nicks for Secretariat by trial and error. Example: Taylormade screens mares for pedigree before approving them for service by California Chrome. They want him to have success early in his career. This will ensure stud fee increase later. Stud fees didn't go up (or down) for Secretariat with demand. You may have a great mare to breed to him, but if not a syndicate member you're out of luck. And syndicate members would have great mares but perhaps not the BEST match. So I'm thankful that he produced great broodmares: Weekend Surprise (AP Indy, Summer Squall), Terlingua (Storm Cat), Secretame (Gone West), Sister Dot (Dehere, Danesis), and Six Crowns (Chief's Crown).
@@toniearl3497 very interesting!