Citroen C5 Hydractive III+ suspension demonstration.

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  • @Amal-hq1jv
    @Amal-hq1jv 7 років тому +16

    nice to know somebody that enjoy & appreciate their car so much.... you gave soul to your citoen!!!

    • @bttfsof
      @bttfsof 7 років тому +2

      Most of the people that today drive an hydraulic citroen love them ;)

    • @oskar6747
      @oskar6747 3 місяці тому

      I just bought the petrol V6 and I love it.

  • @keithcunn
    @keithcunn 7 років тому +46

    I never realised the C5 had the Hydractive III+. I thought only the C6 got it! Nice to see it in action!

    • @007thomasberger
      @007thomasberger 7 років тому +7

      My old c5 from 2001 has hydractive 3+

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому +2

      Are you sure it is Hydractive 3+ and not Hydractive 3? Does it have a Sport mode?

    • @007thomasberger
      @007thomasberger 7 років тому +2

      SoulTrain yes small trhird button with yellow light when you turn sport mode on. Car has also 2 more spheres. One in front second is back. Its c5 2,2hdi 2001 model.

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому +1

      Awesome! :D

    • @007thomasberger
      @007thomasberger 7 років тому +1

      SoulTrain yes its great car :)

  • @TheUlrikkaul
    @TheUlrikkaul 7 років тому +97

    It's a true shame that Peugeot has killed this fantastic suspension.
    Reason they say, it is outdated and not useful anymore.
    So according to Peugeot steel spring is better than hydractive?!

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому +8

      Do you mean CItroen? Indeed it a shame, but they replaced it with something new and innovative they say.

    • @TheUlrikkaul
      @TheUlrikkaul 7 років тому +27

      No i mean Peugeot, since they own the brand Citroen.
      What Peugeot want, is products as simple as possible and the Hydractive system is not something they like.
      The new innovative thing is a new kind of damper build in a new way.
      But it dos not have the auto leveling, like shown in this fine video.
      Ever since Peugeot took over Citroen back in 1974, it has been going back with real innovative inventions from Citroen.

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому +3

      It is probably a marketing strategy :-(

    • @TheUlrikkaul
      @TheUlrikkaul 7 років тому +7

      Yeps and to make the production line as equal as possible on Peugeots and Citroens.
      And in a few years Opel and Vauxhall will join them...

    • @bttfsof
      @bttfsof 7 років тому +7

      Not really, they didn't kill citroen back in the days, they did only recently.
      But, they did kill a part of what citroen could have made, the citroen activa 2 could have been produced ( search for the citroen activa concept, it's FUCKING amazing, like seriously, it was very very very innovative, it had everything that we have today, it's very impressive ), they didn't want to sell it because they were scared that people wouldn't buy it.
      But, they've re-used a part of its technology in the xantia activa.

  • @JuanDomingoMartin
    @JuanDomingoMartin 7 років тому +12

    Awesome car, one of the best systems I've ever seen. It has to be very comfortable, I would like to drive one like this in the future. Great video, thanks for sharing!

    • @andy19820706
      @andy19820706 5 років тому +1

      Just drove it the other day. It feels like you are in a big boat on the sea. I felt dizzy :D :D Will buy it soon!

  • @lauris9919
    @lauris9919 6 місяців тому +1

    i have citroen c5 exclusive 2008 years , and this car , incredibble
    and I would not trade this car for any other
    although the car is already old

  • @luisfernandes4145
    @luisfernandes4145 7 років тому +9

    Thanks for the nice video. I drive a 2008 C5 tourer Exclusive, so I already new all that, but It's always nice to ser a C5 performing!
    By the way, I had problems with the pump and had to be replaced, which cost me​ 1000€! But I don't think that there is no better suspensivon, ever!

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому +6

      Luís Fernandes I agree with you. It's the most comfortable car I've ever been in and recently I found out that the car is very stable as I was "racing" a friend with a Mercedes C250 on a road with big bends. Of course his engine was a lot more powerfull than mine, but in the bends, I was faster :D

  • @mirkozlikovski9553
    @mirkozlikovski9553 7 років тому +13

    nice video SoulTrain and welcome to the "world of Citroen and hydraulic"... beware, it's addictive! after that, it is hard to have something else ;)... well... unless you are "nurburgring racer" :))and you shouldn't worry about suspension... Hydractive III+ should be (if I remember correctly) service-free for 200.000 km. that is, if you won't or, if the car was already not misused by previous owner, there should't be any problems. for instance... my father (and after him I) had GS, bought in far les "reliable" times (1976), with far more primitive hydraulic system... and it still had same spheres and hydraulic system (except for the oil of course) in 1998, with over 350K km on the "clock"! all that was necessary for this was never to move the car until hydraulic was raised into "normal/drive" position (like 15-20sec wait after the engine start).... and this was before ant-sink system your car have ;).just remember, C5 is not "nurburgring champion" (though it drives trough corners pretty well)... it is ultimately comfortable vehicle for leisurely enjoyment while traveling! "treat" it this way and it will serve you thankfully... ;)

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому +1

      Thank you for the beautiful and informative comment. I am sorry I didn't see it until now :( Believe me, I love my car and indeed, every time I use another car, I can feel the very rigid suspension :D

  • @robotech1990
    @robotech1990 7 років тому +8

    Very nice car.Many mortals will never have the privilege of driving one.

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому +1

      Thank you! It's not such an expensive car if you buy it second hand ;-)

    • @robotech1990
      @robotech1990 7 років тому

      SoulTrain i agree with you in that point. I was thinking in many markets where Citroen does not exist.Or the c5 is not for sale.In Chile we have DS 5 models, and the c5 was Taken out.

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому

      Oh, I see. Well, you can always import if you really wish to own one, but I don't think it's worth the hustle.

  • @stephenberry1205
    @stephenberry1205 7 місяців тому

    Don't forget that you use the suspension to change tyres without a jack on all hydropneumatic Citroens from 1955.
    And if you have a high speed puncture you maintain stability and braking.
    Most of them can be driven on 3 wheels on full height suspension at low speed.

  • @zyl0youtube39
    @zyl0youtube39 5 років тому +1

    The low and high suspension positions is made for putting spheres out of pressure when you need to change them

  • @Zabok00007
    @Zabok00007 4 роки тому +4

    The lowest position is used to work on the suspension spheres by decompressing the system. It is not just to be good looking ;)

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  4 роки тому +3

      That is not true. To work on the suspension you must decompress the whole sistem using the diagnostic tool and it lowers the car much more than the lowest position. I've seen this, believe me.

  • @christianneitzel
    @christianneitzel 5 років тому +24

    RIP Hydrative suspension 😢

  • @99ron30
    @99ron30 4 роки тому +1

    I like the unique Citroën hydraulic suspension, I am glad it exists. But I am scared it would have problems, I don't have much money to lose on repairs or maintenance so I would most likely buy Japanese or Korean.
    I like Timing chain engine, Japanese torque converter automatic transmission, single mass flywheel, coil suspension and preferably with no complicated stuff like DPF (FAP or Urea Fluid based system), GDi, hybrid system etc. Or the horrible dual mass flywheel. Unfortunately it will become difficult to find used cars without this stuff in the near future.

  • @sputnik8407
    @sputnik8407 5 років тому +1

    Very nice , it was just expensive that´s why it was canceled . I have Mercedes SL that does it same , when driving it is in low position and get´s lower the faster you go , when I stop to get out it goes up , Then I can go to high if there is an obstruction . Thank you , you have a nice voice ..

    • @onelyone6976
      @onelyone6976 3 роки тому

      Although the mercedes system is essentially a copy

  • @rocksoftpie3083
    @rocksoftpie3083 7 років тому +3

    Great job with the video buddy , interesting and nice suspension you got there XD Keep on making good videos.

  • @bogikfin9945
    @bogikfin9945 4 роки тому +2

    Hello,I'd like this car to buy in next year.Thanks for the review.Good luck✌️😎🤝

  • @Kingdonnerkebab
    @Kingdonnerkebab 5 років тому +2

    Superb cars Citroens, great video and beautiful car.

  • @antoniomiranda5727
    @antoniomiranda5727 7 років тому +3

    Enjoy it. It will be the last with Hydropneumatic Suspension, since making it is expensive and accordingly to Carlos Tavares: "The roads are enough good for Hydropneumatic Suspension".

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому +3

      I love the suspension, believe me, I am enjoying it! :D

    • @antoniomiranda5727
      @antoniomiranda5727 7 років тому

      I have a Xantia 2L HDi :)
      I'm searching for a V6 Phase I XM :D

    • @RennieAsh
      @RennieAsh 4 роки тому

      The roads in my area can be pretty crappy, I'd love to try out one of these cars someday

  • @hopeinstars
    @hopeinstars Рік тому +1

    When i need to change the oil for the suspensions and how? Thank you

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  Рік тому

      As far as I know, you don't need to change the oil, but maybe I'm wrong.

    • @Cap_Dortanchik
      @Cap_Dortanchik 11 місяців тому

      ​​@@soultrain8135You are mistaken, it needs to be changed approximately every 5-8 years. Total lds is usually poured, but in someone they pour whatever is suitable in terms of viscosity. For example, I will soon change to mineral hydraulic oil The viscosity should be between ISO 15 and 22.

  • @admiralfloofz658
    @admiralfloofz658 7 років тому

    The point of having the car in the lowest position is when driving on the freeway for example, it reduces drag and thus fuelconsumption when at high speed.

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому +2

      That would be true if it would be possible, but it is not. However, the car automatically lowers itself a little bit when driving on a good surface at high speed ;-)

  • @rahulparmar-mg8jo
    @rahulparmar-mg8jo 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for information can you please make video for changing rear suspension spheres

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  3 роки тому

      I'm sorry, but I don't have the car anymore.

  • @teodoropicodeoro
    @teodoropicodeoro 2 роки тому +4

    Hi, how is your C5 after these years when you recorded the video? Any malfailure with the suspension or engine? Thanks for helping 🙂

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  2 роки тому +3

      I used it for 5 years, I don't own it anymore, but during that time, I had only a few problems. The fuel pressure regulator, and the clutch. The suspension at some point got a little confused and was not sitting at the correct height, which led to other problems like not being able to fully raise the car, but after 15 minutes of tweaking with a 10mm wrench, it was working linke new.

    • @teodoropicodeoro
      @teodoropicodeoro 2 роки тому

      @@soultrain8135 thanks for your answer

  • @mattyjamess7818
    @mattyjamess7818 2 роки тому +1

    Can you tell me why it says stop on the dashboard, I'm buying one tomorrow and that says stop aswell in the photos

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  2 роки тому

      As far as I remember (I don't have the car anymore), it is normal to say stop while the car is not moving and has the ignition on, but the engine is not started. If it says stop while driving, then there is a problem with the car and it tells you to stop. Anyway, you should get the car checked at a service, or at least a diagnosis with a scan tool.

    • @mattyjamess7818
      @mattyjamess7818 2 роки тому

      @@soultrain8135 thank you for replying

  • @golfnes1438
    @golfnes1438 7 років тому +4

    Frumoasa masina! 😀

  • @marcelsilviu5814
    @marcelsilviu5814 5 років тому +1

    I am the owner of a citroen c5 2011 exclusive and i asked the seller the same question. For what purpose is the lowest suspension? He responded that it is for when you will not use the car for a long time,like this you will protect them and they will last longer. Don't know if it is really true.

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  5 років тому

      I honestly don't see any use for it either. I was told that you can use it if you want to load the car with luggage easier. I don't use it. Also, I don't this it is recommended to leave it on the lower position because all the joints and bushings will be under tension. Just my humble opinion ;-)

    • @brankoYT3KTT
      @brankoYT3KTT 5 років тому

      tire changing ?

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  5 років тому

      @@brankoYT3KTT Nah, that's not recommended.

    • @marcusgrove3548
      @marcusgrove3548 5 років тому

      The reason I’ve been told when my parents bought theirs (2001 and 2010 models) was to make it easier to tow a large trailer. Instead of fiddling with the height of the trailer or caravan in my parents’ case, you could just lower the suspension and drive under the trailer hook and then raise the suspension (have been really useful on numerous occasions). I believe that is also the reason there are switches for raising or lowering the suspension in trunk of the car.

    • @brankoYT3KTT
      @brankoYT3KTT 5 років тому

      @@marcusgrove3548 lowest position is not for driving,hydraulics dont work,whelarms touching the chasis...i had citroen xm for 7 years and many people sad it to me.not for driving

  • @serban79cds
    @serban79cds 7 років тому +2

    Mi-am dat seama ca este de 140 cand am vazut compartimentul motor. Eu am doua furtune care pleaca din fata, banuiesc zona EGR.
    E f ok 163 si foarte puternica

  • @boyanangelovv
    @boyanangelovv 3 роки тому +1

    Could you change a flat tire with only High level position? Will the car stay on 3 wheels?

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  3 роки тому

      I don't see how you could take of the wheel :)

    • @macdieter23558
      @macdieter23558 3 роки тому +1

      How to change a tire:
      1. Loosen the bolts of the tire you need to change.
      2. Raise the car to max position
      3. Place something like a jack under one of the jacking points, where is punctured tire is... (even a chunk of wood high enough will do)
      4. Lower the car onto the jack.
      5. Undo the bolts completely, and the rest is like changing the tire on any other car. Except you have a built in jack, in the form of the Hydropneumatic system.
      So, keeping it in high position won´t work. The suspension will always try to "keep all 4 wheels on the road", so it would press down the flat tire. But when the car lowers, physics will do the job to lift the one wheel off the ground.
      BUT: If you DON´T put on a new wheel and raise the car back up again, there is a good chance the suspension will level out the car and you can drive on three wheels. Not on highway speed, but it works.
      Nice anecdote: In August 1962 this suspension saved the life of french then-president Charles de Gaulle from an assassination attempt. Even though the wheels of his Citroen DS were punctured by bullets, the suspension kept the car level and in drivable condition so he could flee from the assassins.

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  3 роки тому

      @@macdieter23558 I actually have a video where I change the tires exactly as you described :)

  • @Lordlur
    @Lordlur 8 місяців тому +1

    How is it to ride on bumpy roads?

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  8 місяців тому +1

      It is really really comfortable and quiet.

  • @macianonee
    @macianonee 7 років тому +2

    Thanks so much fr this info however I like to know if the suspension can be replaced via DIY?

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому

      From what I've heard, it isn't impossible to replace parts by yourself, but you need to lower the car to the maximum level by using a diagnostics tool in order to release the tension in all the suspension parts.

  • @lipcsaiify
    @lipcsaiify 7 років тому +1

    can you do a test putting in 4 people in the car so we can see how the suspension behaves when they get in or out...does it move and than calibrate itself ?

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому +1

      Yes, this would be interesting to see. I will do this as soon an I can. Thank you! :-D

    • @sgkontos
      @sgkontos 6 років тому

      Yes, no matter if you get in or out, it waits for all the doors to be closed (including the boot) and then levels the car automatically to the drive position.

    • @siemniak
      @siemniak 3 роки тому

      I actually had I generation and it always amazed me that the more people came in the more comfortable it drove.

  • @emulsyjna
    @emulsyjna 7 років тому +3

    Hi. Nice video! How should I know that particular C5 is fitted with hydractive III suspension? I know that Citroen made these models (facelift, 2008-2010?) with hydractive and with spring suspension. Some sellers mention that in their adds but most not. And I want to buy one with this suspension. Are these cars more expensive than with spring suspension? Thanks!

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому +3

      Hey. Thanks. Yes, the cars with hydractive suspension are more expensive, but now much more. If you are next to the car, the easiest way to make the difference between these two, is to look above the wheel and if you see a spring, it is obvious. Another thing, you could look for the controls of the suspension which are located in the rear of the gear shift lever. There should be 3 buttons on the manual one: two arrows and one sport button. These buttons are present on the automatic gear box one too. If there are no such buttons, then the car has the normal suspension.

    • @emulsyjna
      @emulsyjna 7 років тому +2

      SoulTrain Thanks, mate! I will give it a go.

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому

      You are welcome ;)

    • @sammyfani
      @sammyfani 5 років тому

      "There should be 3 buttons on the manual one: two arrows and one sport button" So U got 3+ suspension! Be happy...If U got only up/ dawn buttons..be sad....?

    • @RennieAsh
      @RennieAsh 4 роки тому

      I guess also checking under the hood will show spheres if it has hydraulics

  • @georgeg3350
    @georgeg3350 4 роки тому +1

    Salut, ce motorizare ai pe mașină ?
    Vreau sa cumpăr una 3.0 hdi.

    • @alexskyline8675
      @alexskyline8675 4 роки тому

      Salut ieu am c5 3.0 v6 biturbodisel cu 300 de cai de vânzare dacă te interesează sună.

  • @gvinyl.valcea
    @gvinyl.valcea 4 роки тому +1

    Salut. Vreau si eu sa cumpar una. O parere despre ea?

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  4 роки тому

      Salut. E ok, foarte moale suspensia. Impresionează cel mai mult la drum lung.

    • @gvinyl.valcea
      @gvinyl.valcea 4 роки тому

      SoulTrain ai avut probleme cu suspensia? Toti se feresc de citroen ca si fiabilitate

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  4 роки тому

      @@gvinyl.valcea S-a dereglat o dată înălțimea și din cauza aia nu mai puteam sa o ridic pe cea mai înaltă treaptă, dar am rezolvat problema in 10 minute fara niciun ban.

    • @gvinyl.valcea
      @gvinyl.valcea 4 роки тому

      SoulTrain super. Mersi mult. Duminica merg sa ii iau una sotiei :)

  • @dumitrascuclaudiu7097
    @dumitrascuclaudiu7097 Рік тому

    Hey there!
    Good job whit the Hydra active Review:- you are the only one!...
    Soo sorry that Citroen Cut this Future on the latest models, him being the pioneere of this tehnology!I'm thinking to buy. a 2016 Crossover Estate model...
    How do you find the center weal comand :- does it interview whit the steering?🤔

  • @Marius0189
    @Marius0189 4 роки тому +1

    Salutare. Mai ai mașina? M ar interesa unul dar cu motorul de 3.0 hdi. Ceva probleme serioase cu ea? Momentan am un E class w211 E320 cdi din 2004 cu suspensie pe aer care se comportă aproape identic cu cea de pe Citroen.

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  4 роки тому +1

      Te salut. Da, o mai am, dar tocmai am pus-o la vânzare. Probleme majore nu am avut cu ea. Cea mai mare a fost că a trebuit sa schimb ambreiajul la 135000km, dar posibil sa fie vina celor de la reprezentanta (poveste lungă). Una peste alta, e cea mai silențioasă și mai confortabila mașina pe care am condus-o.

    • @Marius0189
      @Marius0189 4 роки тому

      @@soultrain8135 mulțam' fain pentru răspuns. Da, tot pentru asta m am orientat și eu, confort. Obișnuit cu E class'ul acum, chiar confortabil, și cum fac destul de mulți km, tot spre asta m-as orienta,însă sunt destul de rare, cel puțin aici în UK, cele cu motor v6.

  • @marcellomarchetti5414
    @marcellomarchetti5414 6 років тому +1

    your car is equipped with the snow motion system. how does he behave in the snow? compared to other similar cars?
    thank you

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  6 років тому

      Marcello Marchetti That is actually a very good question. Believe me, I wanted to post a video demonstrating exactly what you asked, but we didn't see any snow this winter. From what I've seen last winter, it's not much different than a normal traction control, but it has a fancy name.

    • @marcellomarchetti5414
      @marcellomarchetti5414 6 років тому +1

      is your automatic transmission on your car? is the snow button present? I have the tourer model with automatic transmission, but I've never tried it on the snow

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  6 років тому

      Marcello Marchetti Mine has manual transmission, and it doesn't have a snow motion button, but it has snow motion written near the gear shifter.

    • @krissolek
      @krissolek 5 років тому

      @@soultrain8135 Snow mode means it starts not on 1st gear but on 3rd

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  5 років тому

      @@krissolek Hey! My car has a manual transmission, so that's not the case.

  • @JAnx01
    @JAnx01 7 років тому +2

    Using hydropneumatic suspension in a standard line car.
    Not using hydropneumatic suspension in the premium line-up.
    I don't understand Citroen.

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому

      JAnx01 What do you consider being premium line-up?

    • @vs6300
      @vs6300 5 років тому

      Its what they've done for years as they value passenger comfort. As you have said it, its you who does not understand, and many do not sadly.

  • @ovidiu0505
    @ovidiu0505 4 роки тому

    Salut, felicitări pt review!Sunt pe cale să i-au un c5 2012 suspensie pe aer...îmi poți spune dc ai avut probleme cu ea?sau ce probleme au avut.Multumesc!

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  4 роки тому +1

      Salut. Mulțumesc! Suspensia nu este pe aer, e hidropneumatica. Nu am avut nicio problema cu suspensia, in schimb am avut niste probleme cu bucșe, bare antiruliu și am schimbat ambreiajul.

    • @ovidiu0505
      @ovidiu0505 4 роки тому

      @@soultrain8135 Am inteles.Per total ,îmi recomanzi această mașină? Întreb un posesor ,pt că de obicei doar unul care are/avut una ar putea sa fie subiectiv cu adevărat

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  4 роки тому +1

      @@ovidiu0505 Raportând prețul la calitate și dotări, eu zic că e o mașină foarte OK. Eu o am de mai bine de 5 ani și m-am cam plictisit de ea.

    • @ovidiu0505
      @ovidiu0505 4 роки тому +1

      @@soultrain8135Am înțeles.Multumesc pt sfaturi.Cu respect!

  • @andreivoaides
    @andreivoaides 5 років тому +1

    Salut.
    Spune-mi,te rog, daca nu te incurca consola fixa din centrul volanului. Ca asta e singura dilema care m-a oprit sa-mi iau un C4, sau C5.

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  5 років тому +1

      Salut. Nici vorbă să mă încurce. Inițial a fost mai ciudat faptul că nu puteam să țin mana pe mijlocul volanului in timp ce conduceam, dar după o săptămână era încântat de el. Îl recomand.

    • @andreivoaides
      @andreivoaides 5 років тому

      @@soultrain8135 Eu mai obisnuiesc sa rotesc volanul din interiorul lui.
      Daca si tu, la fel, iar acum te-ai putut obisnui asa, atunci e perfect !
      Mersi frumos.
      :)

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  5 років тому +1

      @@andreivoaides Sigur te vei obișnui și îți va placea. Oricum, să învârti volanul din interior nu e un obicei foarte bun ;-)

    • @andreivoaides
      @andreivoaides 5 років тому

      @@soultrain8135 Doar la drum intins.
      E mai relaxat bratul sprijinit putin mai jos.

    • @watannen
      @watannen 4 роки тому

      e mai bun mijlocul volanului fix dpdv al sigurantei. Fabricantii nu-l practica pt ca e ciudat si lumea nu-i invatata. Dar imagineaza-ti un accident unde sare airbagul. El se va declansa perfect indiferent de pozitia volanului, pe cand la alte masini... depinde.

  • @tudorbanaru8339
    @tudorbanaru8339 5 років тому +1

    Salut. Numele meu este Tudor si am un Citroen c5 din 2011 si te rog sa ma ajuti cu o intrebare.Este normal dupa ce opresti motorul si parchezi masina cate o data mai ales daca nu este pe drum drept se lasa de spate.Vreau sa te intreb daca este normal.Multumesc frumos si astept raspuns.

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  5 років тому

      Este normal sa se lase putin atunci cand cobori din ea, dar nu stiu despre cat de mult zici tu ca se lasa. Cat de mult se lasa? E diferenta mare intre fata si spate?

    • @tudorbanaru8339
      @tudorbanaru8339 5 років тому

      @@soultrain8135 Salut se lasa mult.Si cand pornesc se ridica. Dar nu tot mereu face chestia asta. Multumesc

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  5 років тому

      @@tudorbanaru8339 Nu e normal sa se lase mult. Eu de exemplu nici nu am observat să se lase spatele. Mai mult la fata am observat. Este o problemă. Trebuie investigata.

    • @tudorbanaru8339
      @tudorbanaru8339 5 років тому

      @@soultrain8135 ok.multumesc frumos pentru ajutor.

    • @tudorbanaru8339
      @tudorbanaru8339 5 років тому

      @@soultrain8135 Salut.mai am o intrebare daca poti sa ma ajuti. Cum pot sa verific nivelul la uleiul hidraulic da este in parameri. Multumesc frumos.

  • @valentinexristov8915
    @valentinexristov8915 5 років тому +1

    Hello! As a fellow C5 owner,I wanted to ask You if You is it possible to drive on three wheels like the legendary DS,CX and so on? Does Hydractive III allow it? Thanks!

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  5 років тому

      Hey there. From what I've heard, no, it's not possible with this generation. I haven't tried it though and I'm too afraid to try. :-)

    • @valentinexristov8915
      @valentinexristov8915 5 років тому +2

      I've heard it is possible,but it's not really reccommended as the pump is getting too overloaded and it might get damaged fatally.

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  5 років тому

      @@valentinexristov8915 You are probably right!

  • @aquaevitae
    @aquaevitae 3 роки тому

    At the moment i have an old Toyota Corolla year model 2000, technically in good condition but badly rusted, so i need another car in near future. I'm seriously considering Citroen C5 with hydroactive suspension, year model something between 2005-2009 with 2.0 gasoline engine&AT. I'm just little worried that is it too fault sensitive, and i mean hydro suspension, but also the car over all. Is it worth to buy..?

  • @zaharel91
    @zaharel91 2 роки тому +1

    Salut. Este problematica suspensia?

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  2 роки тому +1

      In 5 ani cat am avut mașină, am făcut cam 60 mii km și nu am avut nicio problema cu ea.

  • @siangetz8808
    @siangetz8808 5 років тому +1

    Hello man..
    What's the diesel engine specification in your Citroen? Power, torque?

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  5 років тому

      Hey. It has 140hp and I believe about 340NM of torque.

  • @serban79cds
    @serban79cds 7 років тому +1

    am vazut ca ai varianta de 140 hp. eu o am pe cea de 163 hp de 4 ani si sunt foarte multumit.
    m-au fascinat comment-urile.
    bafta multa

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому +2

      Serban Calafus Iti multumesc. Si eu mi-as fi dorit varianta dr 163 de cai. De altfel asa m-a si prostit cel de la care am cumparat-o, ca e de 163, dar avand in vedere ca am mers de la Oradea pana la Constanta dupa ea, am zis ca nu e asa important. Trecand de la un C3 cu motor de 1.4 hdi de 68 de cai, la unul de 140, pentru mine diferenta e colosala ;-)

  • @semirhuskic8028
    @semirhuskic8028 Рік тому +1

    do you still have that car?

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  Рік тому

      Nope

    • @semirhuskic8028
      @semirhuskic8028 Рік тому +1

      @@soultrain8135 i bought my new i and drive it still 12 years now. if i may ask what brand are you driving now, because i see you liked Citroen back in the day did you stay with them or did you go to the Germans for sportiness 🙂

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  Рік тому

      @@semirhuskic8028 Interesting question. I own a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV, but it is not as well made and comfortable as the C5.

    • @semirhuskic8028
      @semirhuskic8028 Рік тому +1

      @@soultrain8135 i did not expect this answer, not a typical route to go to, completely different segment. i was pretty sure you jumped ti an audi.
      Mitsubishi has always be interesting to me i they have their way of doing things.the Outlander is a really nice car g and friendly for children, nice choise.
      My Citroen is the same red color.

    • @jadaniil
      @jadaniil Рік тому

      ​@@soultrain8135 why did you sell your Citroen?

  • @ΕμμανουήλΝτινιας
    @ΕμμανουήλΝτινιας 10 місяців тому

    Do c5 of 2007 have hydractive3+? its a sedan 1.8

    • @joelroots103
      @joelroots103 8 місяців тому

      1.8 base model comes with normal springs

  • @Davidoff5185
    @Davidoff5185 6 років тому +2

    What engine does it come with?

    • @bartoszszulc4410
      @bartoszszulc4410 4 роки тому

      Best option is to have this car with 2.0 hdi 140 hp.

    • @siemniak
      @siemniak 3 роки тому

      i believe it has diesel and petrol from 1.6 1.8 2.0 2.2 and 3.0

    • @siemniak
      @siemniak 3 роки тому

      Also comes with automatic and manual transmission.

  • @ZekeMagnum
    @ZekeMagnum 5 місяців тому

    So it's not on air aka super expensive to repair?

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  5 місяців тому

      It uses oil and some sort of gas. I wouldn't say it it expensive to repair.

  • @bernarddsilva8050
    @bernarddsilva8050 3 роки тому

    Great cars ... I had a 1991 XM .. amazing...

  • @manueldavidromandominguez2238
    @manueldavidromandominguez2238 3 роки тому

    Me encanta esa suspensión 😍😍

  • @MISComputerNET
    @MISComputerNET 7 років тому +2

    Thanks for the great video. Could you please tell me the name of the song in the end ?

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому

      Thank you. The song is Jazziano by Tarazanio. It's a free song from UA-cam.

    • @MISComputerNET
      @MISComputerNET 7 років тому +1

      Multumesc Tudor, I think you're Romanian.
      Cu stima,

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому

      +MISComputerNET Cu placere. Sunt roman, da :-)

    • @MISComputerNET
      @MISComputerNET 7 років тому

      :-), nice to meet you. My business partner is also Romanian living in Galati. A nice city.
      Pa, la revedere ! :)

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому

      Oh, I thought you were also Romanian :-P Nice to meet you too ;-)

  • @ghio.batranu7403
    @ghio.batranu7403 3 роки тому

    Salut. Am de gand sa achizitiomez un citroen.c5 tourer 2.0 hdi 163 cai, an 2013.
    Momemtan am un passat b8 dsg 150 cI 2015 dar catev probleme ce nu se merita bagat bani.
    Recomanzi? Fiabilitate motor, cutie e tot automata. Multumesc.

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  3 роки тому

      Sincer, să treci de la Passat B8 la C5 din 2013 eu nu pot sa recomand. Mie personal îmi place mai mult B8-ul și îmi place și cutia DSG.

  • @theblitz1687
    @theblitz1687 4 роки тому

    i thought u had 10km limit at highest setting. bcs lowest is for highway use?

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  4 роки тому

      You have 10km/h limit at the lowest and the highest position. The lowest position is not for the highway. Actually, if you want to lower it while going faster than 10km/h, it doesn't accept the command. For the highway, the car automatically lowers for a better fuel efficiency.

  • @dcod3488
    @dcod3488 6 років тому +1

    Frate eu sunt in cautare de masina asta 2.0hdi cum este mulțumesc mult p

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  6 років тому

      Mie imi place foarte mult, dar daca ar fi sa o mai cumpar o data, as cauta varianta cu 163 de cai. A mea are doar 140.

  • @MyTechEye
    @MyTechEye 7 років тому

    Salut,
    As vrea sa imi cumpar si eu aceasta masina, chiar exclusive si chiar nu am pe nimeni apropiat de la care sa pot cere o parere in legatura cu aceasta masina. Crezi ca putem discuta cumva despre aceasta masina in lagatura cu suspensia, motorul, daca are putere sau este lenesa, ce probleme ai mai avut etc.

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому

      ThatsWhatIWantToSee Salut. Sigur ca putem vorbi. Intreaba-ma ce doresti. Daca vrei sa vorbim mai usor, cauta-ma pe Facebook, sunt Tudor Calin, dar doar de luni încolo.

    • @MyTechEye
      @MyTechEye 7 років тому

      este ok nu o sa te deranjez pana luni, numai ca sunt o gramada de tudor calin si nu te gasesc. chiar nu stiu cum sa facem. :D

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому

      ThatsWhatIWantToSee Am poza de profil cu mine si cu prietena mea la mare. Poate ajuta :D

  • @florinnyc6371
    @florinnyc6371 7 років тому +1

    Am acesta mașina pe lista. Își merita bani!! Imi place designul si vreau sa achiziționez un model cu cutie automata si motorul 2.0 sau 2.2 diesel. Nu imi place Passatul de loc. Peugeot 508 e o posibilitate căci cele japoneze sunt exagerat de scumpe pe piața Europeană.

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому +1

      Florin Pajero E foarte faina masina. Daca va cumparati cu motor de 2.0, sa cautati varianta de 163 de cai sau chiar cea de 180 :-D

  • @Edofredo826
    @Edofredo826 6 років тому +1

    All c5 have hydrolic suspension???

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  6 років тому +2

      No, not all of them have this type of suspension. Some have the conventional spring suspension.

    • @Edofredo826
      @Edofredo826 6 років тому +1

      SoulTrain thank you want to ask if it have speed regulator??

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  6 років тому +1

      Yes, it has speed regulator and speed limiter but you can use one or another, not both at the same time, obviously :)

    • @Edofredo826
      @Edofredo826 6 років тому

      SoulTrain thx bro

    • @paddybernacki5743
      @paddybernacki5743 5 років тому

      Which c5’s have this kind of suspension ? I’m looking to buy one but I want it to have hydra active suspension

  • @daniellaurentiu2398
    @daniellaurentiu2398 7 років тому +1

    nice video, do you need to change the oil for the suspension?

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому

      Hey! Thank you! At first, when I bought the car, that was my exact thought, that I have to change the hydraulic oil, but I took it to Citroen and they said that it doesn't need to be changed or at least not yet. I'm starting to have doubts about Citroen here in my town lately and maybe I'll check with someone else to see if it needs to be changed :-)

    • @daniellaurentiu2398
      @daniellaurentiu2398 7 років тому +1

      SoulTrain congrats on the car! I think it's great, probably the most confortable car ever, is it true that you can change the wheel like on the old 1960 DS Citroen?

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому

      Thank you. It is indeed very comfortable. To be honest, I didn't try it, but I think it could work, because one time, when I had a flat tire and I went to the shop, they raise the car and while they were fixing the flat, the car automatically raised the missing wheel (engine off and all that). After they put the fixed wheel back, I had to raise the whole car so they could pull out the jack :)) It was funny. I have to switch to my summer tires soon and I will try it ;) Thanks for the idea :D

    • @daniellaurentiu2398
      @daniellaurentiu2398 7 років тому

      SoulTrain you are welcome, this is awesome, I'm seriously thinking to own one in the future, are there any other secrets regarding the car? 😂

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому

      The only bad thing with this car is that it is pretty complicated and we don't have good mechanics for it. As I told another person in the comments, I have a knocking coming from my left front tire and the guys at Citroen were unable to fix it for me. A new problem that just appeared is that the clutch is slipping at only 116000 kilometers. I bought it second hand and have no idea how the first driver was driving it. I will change it as soon as possible and hopefully will have no other problems :D All in all, I love the car. It is very silent and comfortable and as a plus, if you buy a new one now, it has 180HP instead of 140HP as mine has ;-)

  • @alexmalone1642
    @alexmalone1642 5 років тому

    What year it's?

  • @mazin_0_0
    @mazin_0_0 3 роки тому

    How reliable is this car?

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  3 роки тому +1

      Pretty reliable

    • @mazin_0_0
      @mazin_0_0 3 роки тому

      @@soultrain8135 I mean Citroen this generation and newer generation

  • @chuksanumni6170
    @chuksanumni6170 7 років тому +1

    Please won't you produce the a Citroen that the tires goes inside the car as the 1970 to 80s Citroes produce a new model that the tires goes inside the car I love it so much. thanks

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому

      CHUKS ANUMNI Hello there. I'm not sure what you mean. Do you want me to make a video in which I lower the car and the wheels go under the fenders? I'm sorry, I don't understand :(

    •  7 років тому +1

      SoulTrain I think he is talking about Citroen DS, where the back wheels were covered... But I don't understand what he wants... Maybe he wants to know if the similar car will be produced in future (like C6), or something...

  • @henrywhittaker2519
    @henrywhittaker2519 2 роки тому

    I love my C5

  • @miekkone666
    @miekkone666 4 роки тому

    citroen my love

  • @siemniak
    @siemniak 3 роки тому +1

    III gen looks beautiful. The previous two are ugly as fuck but still great comrtoable cars.

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  3 роки тому

      You are so damn right! :))

    • @siemniak
      @siemniak 3 роки тому

      @@soultrain8135 :) I arleady had I gen. Now my dream car is III. Hope it will be mine someday. They are not that expensive anyway.

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  3 роки тому

      @@siemniak Hope you can get one someday. I'm currently trying to sell mine.

    • @siemniak
      @siemniak 3 роки тому

      @@soultrain8135 how much did u pay for it

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  3 роки тому

      @@siemniak It was 10000 euro back in 2015.

  • @purelit4415
    @purelit4415 6 років тому

    What year is the car ?

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  6 років тому +1

      pure lit Hello! It's from 2011.

    • @purelit4415
      @purelit4415 6 років тому

      SoulTrain has it got any issues ? Or do you know of common problems with a c5 ? Im going to buy a 2008 model but never had a french car and I dont know anything about them..thanks for the reply.

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  6 років тому +2

      pure lit I did have a couple of problems with it, but not many. I would say it is at least as good as a Volkswagen car.

    • @jeanmary751
      @jeanmary751 5 років тому

      @@soultrain8135 7

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  5 років тому

      @@jeanmary751 8! I won :D

  • @chuksanumni6170
    @chuksanumni6170 7 років тому +1

    How much is the car

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому +1

      +CHUKS ANUMNI I bought it for 11000 euro.

    • @Reeko1980
      @Reeko1980 7 років тому +1

      11000 I see it too cheap for this car

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому

      You can get them even cheaper, but not with the same features ;-)

    • @Reeko1980
      @Reeko1980 7 років тому

      11000e is what it costs a citroen C3 standard. I understand that it is a used car ;-D

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому

      Of course I am talking about a used car, my car. A new one is about 30000 euro.

  • @vasilelucianjiboc3476
    @vasilelucianjiboc3476 6 років тому +1

    As vrea sa iau aceasta masina dar varianta pe benzina 2l motor ..ce sfat miai da sau ce sti despre acel motor..ms!!!

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  6 років тому

      Vasilelucian Jiboc Din pacate nu stiu nimic despre motorul ala, dar pot presupune ca va consuma mult.

    • @vasilelucianjiboc3476
      @vasilelucianjiboc3476 6 років тому

      In rest ca masina ce sfat ami poti da... ca nu prea cunosc marca aceasta

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  6 років тому +1

      Vasilelucian Jiboc Daca doresti sa iti cumperi C5, neaparat sa il iei cu suspensie Hydractive 3+. E ceea ce face masina superba. In rest, eu nu as merge pe varianta pe benzina.

  • @dcod3488
    @dcod3488 5 років тому +1

    Salut ai întâlnit ceva probleme eu il detin cam de vreo 8 luni si ii super ok mulțumesc

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  5 років тому

      Salut. Da, am câteva probleme cu ea și sunt programat la un service despre care se spune că e foarte bun. Îmi patinează ambreiajul din când în când, ceva probleme la regulatorul de presiune de motorina și mai nou nu se mai ridică pe cea mai înaltă treaptă. Să vedem câte reușesc să rezolve.

    • @dcod3488
      @dcod3488 5 років тому +1

      @@soultrain8135 ambreajul am vazut si eu ca au probleme deocamdată a mea este ok am doar 160de mi km cu ea acuma i-am schimbat distributia si cureaua de accesorii in rest imi place cum mere si la mn am văzut ca bate putin de tot volanta in rest super confort imi place mult
      O deti dem mult timp?

    • @dcod3488
      @dcod3488 5 років тому

      Poate ai probleme la ceva sfera ca nu au probleme

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  5 років тому

      @@dcod3488 O am de 4 ani. Daca vrei sa fii la curent cu alți colegi care dețin această mașină, caută pe Facebook grupul Citroen C5 Romania. Acolo fiecare își povestește pățaniile.

  • @vladleonard86
    @vladleonard86 4 роки тому

    De unde ai accentul asta?

  • @paulanderson79
    @paulanderson79 6 років тому

    You front right tyre is mounted the wrong way round.

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  6 років тому

      I'll check, but I doubt it's mounted the wrong way.

  • @miguelpereira7934
    @miguelpereira7934 18 днів тому

    Sport Position too...

  • @morohwold1734
    @morohwold1734 8 місяців тому

    *Sprungfunktion* (Sprungfedern)

  • @jeanmariezeyen111
    @jeanmariezeyen111 4 роки тому

    the lowest position is called "servicing position"...you're not supposed to drive with that... :-)

  • @ovidiugabriel9511
    @ovidiugabriel9511 7 років тому

    nu-i vad rostul sincer...mai ales cu restrictile de viteza...in afara faptului ca poti trece peste ceva...tipic citroen...nu zic ca nu este o optiune buna dar ...

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому

      Adevarul e ca suspensia aceasta are un alt atu pe care nu il pot pune in video sau inca nu stiu cum. Este extraordinar de comfortabila masina. Recunosc, de doi ani, o singura data am avut cu adevarat nevoie de facilitatea de a o ridica, in timp ce mergeam pe un drum destul de prost, cu geata si fagase. Celelalte masini tot incercau sa iasa din fagase ca sa nu "dea cu burta" si alunecau inapoi. Eu doar am ridicat-o si am mers linistit pe mijloc. :-D

  • @mona86018
    @mona86018 7 років тому

    in limba romana nu ai nimic?

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому +2

      narcis sau Am facut video in limba engleza pentru a avea un public mai larg. Din pacate nu am unul in limba romana, dar poate voi face pe viitor ;-)

  • @octavianvalentinvasnic8531
    @octavianvalentinvasnic8531 5 років тому

    Vb in Românește nu te mai da în spectacul că tot mașină Franțuzească rămâne

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  5 років тому

      Pentru tine faptul ca vorbesc in limba Engleza inseamna ca ma dau in spectacol?

  • @alexskyline8675
    @alexskyline8675 4 роки тому

    Dacă interesează la cineva am o C5 3.0 v6 biturbodiesel cu 300 de cai întreținută foarte bine .

  • @robertf3017
    @robertf3017 5 років тому +1

    I have it

  • @RHEnjoyTheS1lence
    @RHEnjoyTheS1lence 5 років тому

    this is a car. Not all of those shitty japan scrap

  • @svcag1780
    @svcag1780 4 роки тому

    Ok

  • @totem168
    @totem168 7 років тому +2

    it will cost lot if something happen to that suspension, even though I bet it's really comfortable.

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому +2

      +alien You are right. As a matter of fact, there is a small knock coming from the front left wheel. I changed everything that Citroen said I should and it is still there. It is not only expensive, but complicated as well and few people know how to service it :( It is indeed very comfortable :D

    • @angelstojanov2471
      @angelstojanov2471 7 років тому +1

      I had the same problem with left front wheel btw i own Xantia and it happened only on bigger bumps, guys from the service changed the shock absorber. Supricingly it was working had no problems with raising and lowering car but when they took it off it was broken inside and there was that knocking noice done. Hope you get that done cos u may have other problems in future with it (as guys from service said if it isn`t changed on time it knows to shoot it upwards and bend of brake hoods :D )

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому +3

      I really appreciate your advice, and I bet it could be the cause, but I would like someone to be sure of it so I don't have to pay the whole operation and still have that knocking. I've done this once with the guys at Citroen, payed about 180$ and no results. The service should have payed for that because it didn't fix my problem, but noooo...

    • @angelstojanov2471
      @angelstojanov2471 7 років тому +4

      I`m not taking my car in official citroen service cos they got high price on everything and charge too much, instead i`m taking it to local shop where family members are working (two sons and father) but the father has 20 years or more experience in one of biggest Citroen service in France,donno wich one or where i`m telling what he`s told me and they`re the only that knows citroen`s from bottom to top. They know the problem from hearing how car`s running or from what noise is making when on road. Recently i got oil leak from hydraulic pump and was losing 1.5 L per week when i take it there i only told them that i got weird clicks when i start engine :D and gues what they say: ok we`ll check hydraulic pump it must have leaks somwhere and you`re losing oil and there for those clicks cos pump doesn`t have enough pressure in it. I was like wow wtf :D sorry for long msg my point was take a trip in nearby towns check for other services, cos not everyone knows what they are doing . ;)

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому +3

      You are very fortunate that you have people close to you and with great experience. I would like that too. I've heard about a service here in Oradea that is specialized in Citroen and I'm willing to give it a try. I will soon post a video trying to record that knocking, maybe someone on the internet previously heard it and maybe give me some advice :D

  • @anthyoung2801
    @anthyoung2801 5 років тому

    I have a C5 exlusive automatic and i hate it . Absolute shit car i just hope i can sell it

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  5 років тому

      I'm sorry to hear that :( Hope you can sell it fast.

  • @sebastien3409
    @sebastien3409 Рік тому

    On sait faire des voitures.

  • @MultiPRman
    @MultiPRman 4 роки тому

    This car was crushed

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  4 роки тому

      What do you mean?

    • @MultiPRman
      @MultiPRman 4 роки тому

      @@soultrain8135 look attention to the hood and the right side of the car

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  4 роки тому

      @@MultiPRman It wasn't crashed. The hood was open. Maybe that's why you thought so.

    • @MultiPRman
      @MultiPRman 4 роки тому

      @@soultrain8135 maybe...

  • @مهجولقيمر-ن8ل
    @مهجولقيمر-ن8ل 6 років тому +1

    سيارة زينه من وين

  • @CalinEnduro
    @CalinEnduro 7 років тому +2

    pe bune esti roman si faci video in engleza??? tradator...

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому +5

      Calin Stefan Cu speranta unui public mai larg ;-)

    • @dorinluca6351
      @dorinluca6351 7 років тому +2

      ficat, am vazut numar de bihor si m-am uitat sa vad mai bine:)) esti tare!!

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому

      Trebor Nirod Multumesc ;-)

    • @dorinluca6351
      @dorinluca6351 7 років тому +1

      ;) merge masina? a avut ceva probleme?

    • @soultrain8135
      @soultrain8135  7 років тому

      Trebor Nirod Merge bine. Ceva probleme am avut cu ea, dar nimic major :-)

  • @bojankis5999
    @bojankis5999 5 років тому

    What a stupid ass pointles system.