Well we were forward deployed in the 80’s. And the pace was maddening. It was only because we had broken equipment that we got any time off at all. Something was always broken and some equipment was never used, like the oxygen generator.
Having been a Marine ‘Grunt’ (Infantry Officer) for over two decades, it strikes me that General Berger’s comment is that of a out-of-touch politician instead of a in-touch Marine. IF the Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps concurs, the Commandant has surrounded himself with ‘Yes men.’ Our forces (all services) have been ‘rode hard and put up wet!’ When you do that to a horse, you will invariably pay a price when your next ‘ride’ is necessary. LtCol. J.R. USMC(Ret)
The ability to damage/neutralize undersea cables is a pretty big strategic advantage, so I don't think they are wasting the money building this kind of capability. You can basically bring a country's economy/every day business logistics down by taking out cables like this, even if the military has backups communication methods, this will impact the general public and cause chaos.
I have an inkling suspicion that the tax free deals the US government have with Elon's companies is in exchange for the US military to piggyback on his satellites as backup.
@@abigailroberts7943 Very well could be. That and emerging technologies that the general public doesn't know about. Civilian contractor's have become an ever increasing source of strategic defense capabilities.
Another reason the Corps eliminated their heavy armor, along with much of their tube artillery is they don’t envision them being of much use on the relatively small small and relatively flat atolls. Rocket artillery on the other hand can be landed on adjacent islands or even fired from a ship at much further ranges. I understand the switch to MLRS but entirely disagree with the decision to eliminate their organic heavy armor. Not all the islands are small, many are large enough for large scale tank warfare. By divesting of their M1’s they are going to be rely upon the Army (again) to bail them out during larger offensive operations.
I get the feeling the Marine Corps will eventually cave and buy into the Mobile Protected Firepower program the Army is developing, but I bet it will take around a decade for them to realize why they had tanks in the first place.
I do as well. Personally I think that the firepower provided by a 105mm or better is going to be desperately missed when they start trying to get some poor bugger out of a hole in the ground. Maybe I’m wrong, maybe guided rockets will perform the task of breaching fortifications.
Would you be able to do a briefing on the Soviet sub which ran aground in Swedish waters in 1981? I was a BM2 aboard an LKA at the time and never heard the full story. Thanks.
Our U.S. Military has its own culture separate but equal to our civilian society. To my knowledge, this culture has never been breached in the volunteer force until now (draftees are always different). My son is active duty and I'm a disabled vet. They've eroded our forces and their culture, but thankfully not to an unrecoverable degree. The theocratic dogma responsible for insisting upon proper pronouns and relativity of truth and integrity poses a serious threat to operational readiness. True equality has been a thing in our military for more than 100yrs. Soldiers are just green, Airmen are just blue, and Sailors are only haze gray. We did not need to be condition to find solidarity with our brethren... that is in fact, something our U.S. Military could teach the nation.
Wow, the title of the video caught my eye and sounds like it should turn out to be a very interesting video. Thanks for your continued efforts, and greetings as well from Framingham, Massachusetts. :) _John_
Okay in semi-defense of forward deployed. We did exercises with NATO (back in the early mid '90s) and those ships in those European fleets were kept in port most of the time. An evolution that would take us a minute or less (for example: fire on bearing at range and come new course at speed) would take them three to five minutes. You do need to put your ships out to sea because there is no classroom training that is a good replacement for first hand experience. I spent my five years at sea forward deployed and I was burned out ready to GTFO, but we knew what we were doing.
Best to do what the UK does and cycle crews and ships on a regular basis so you don't get fatigue but maintain a constant at sea presence. France does something similar but most of the other European navies keep most in port..well kept but they're to their navies as a garage queen cars is to a car enthusiast. The ships are made to sail and made to fight.
@@S.ASmith Ask the USN to consider how something is done in another navy - lol. I was in the first integrated male female navy boot camp company. Other nations had integrated boot camp for decades. Did the USN take a look at how other nations did things, the problem they had run into and solutions found? Not only no, but H* NO! As a result we had three attempted suicides and I lost my virginity.
@@S.ASmith The problem the U.K. has right now is they don’t have enough ships. They’re down to 17 major non-CV surface combatants (frigates & destroyers) this total is expected to drop 15 by the middle 2020s. And because of their design limitations the UK carriers are de facto USN auxiliaries-The Brits only operate a handful of F-35s & need Marine F-35s to maintain a credible air wing.
@@grahamstrouse1165 This is true, and most of that comes down to bureaucrats and people that hate the West and my country inhabiting Parliament. (before you say vote them out, voting does nothing here lol, democracy is but an illusion).
Story of that Mir submarine mentioned - was build in Rauma -Repola ship yard in 1987 and accordingly USA was consulted before and the deal was given green light by washington since they did not believe that steel hull would be able to dive 6 K ! However its was quality workmanship and later Rauma-Repola was forced to resign from making submarines because USA threatened Finalnd for export controls and violating technology ban on Soviet Union.
A friend of mine has recently (in the last 6 months) been assigned to the Nimitz as a nuke and from what shes saying your spot on about it people being worked to the bone.
The small reactors are pretty simple. They are well understood and have been used in spacecraft (as well as terrestrial) for decades. Essentially, they are enough radioactive material to generate heat, which is turned directly into electricity. No moving parts. The Soviets used them to power lighthouses, bouys, and radiolocation stations in the arctic. The failure modes was scrap salvagers.
Rtg Is nuclear reactor. The very principle and physics of an rtg is exactly what a nuclear reactor is. The difference between a rtg and "everyday"/"common knowledge" nuclear reactors is the mode at which the heat is used. Rtg just uses the straight heat (yeah, some metallic plates, but effectively just a transference of heat) whereas "common" reactors have the heat transfer to water -> steam -> spin turbine -> turns electric generator. Saying an rtg is not a nuclear reactor is saying a submarine is not a submarine. -from nuclear engineer (ion propulsion researcher)
Thanks for sharing this, it was very informative. I also really liked how you respected the crew on the Russian sub and acknowledged it as a sad tragedy. All too often American military UA-cam channels tend to dehumanize the "enemy" and would ignore, if not dismiss, the human lives lost. I really appreciate how you're an American patriot and support our armed forces but don't try to denigrate other countries' warfighters.
Back in the 1980s through almost 2000... the Best trained and most effective Russian doctrine fighting force was the opposing force at fort Irwin, CA.. They trained every army fighting battalion for combat using Soviet tactics and doctrine.... after GWOT they switched to counter insurgency....why the navy doesn't have something like this is beyond me but I'm just me
@@roberthurley8366 ah righto, yes the war on the wrong country (Iraq). Yeah never understood the game plan for that arbitrary war. Terrorism is a difficult think to define and started the slippery slope of state surveillance policy across the westernised nations. Like Afghanistan very much felt like a repeat of Vietnam with improved tactics. Not a conflict I'm proud that we were party to, proud of how our troops performed just not of the politics that drew us in, gave birth to a lot of localised issues and radical parties in and outside of chambers. Like not to belittle the impact on America 11/9/2001 I get that pissed ya off but wasn't our fight until we made it our fight and in retrospect, seems hard to say it was worth the blood and resources.
Where do you have 30m of cable missing? Reports say that 4300 meters was missing, but they did find 3000 meters of the cable, 11km from the original location.
So the cable in Norway wasn't actually an undersea network cable, for internet or phone or something, rather it was part of a network of sensors used to track submarines, fishery stocks, and various other things. Not only was a 30m section of cable cut, two of the sensor nodes were heavily damaged, and the cable, and insulation was substantially heavy that it rules out smaller unmanned vessels as it was quite heavy and required substantial power to even move, much less carry off. The estimate appears to be 9.5 TONS. The network in question is the LoVe network, and it's pretty clear that this was an effort by Russia to disable a sensor network operated by NATO on it's doorstep.
Yeah, "pretty clear". Let me guess - that sensor network somehow didn't manage to sense and record a vehicle approaching and manipulating it? I mean, if it did, Norgs would publish the sounds and we'd recognize our lovely Russian sub, modified or not, right? Was it off or otherwise useless?
@@poiu477 Huh, I recognize the approach! "You're guilty, but we are not giving the proofs because they are classified!". A convenient way to blame anyone for anything - especially for own f-ups.
@@vladimirdyuzhev To be clear, I'm not lambasting the Russians for doing this, it's all part of the international chess game of undersea warfare. I guess NATO could've cut the cables themselves but that seems kinda silly. They way they were constructed almost totally precludes it having been ripped by a fishing vessel, and certainly precludes it happening unnoticed.
Interesting perspective on Land Warfare - I know Sh*t about the navy other than soup at 10 and a warm place to sleep. Marines are a breed of their own, having exercised with them on multiple LSE and deployed on the active battlefield with them, comfort for them is extra batteries for their PVS 14 and maybe a shower every two weeks. Taking training outside the normal limits has OPSEC problems as seen to be training against a known Country TTP's - no one keeps quiet anymore. I'm sure the Commandant would be comfortable to evolve past the 3 block war, COIN and nation building to address 21 century threats in any number of AORs. No offense - the Navy is a transport mode for ground pounders. Cheers
I agree with your assessment of staff ranks not understanding what is happening at the E1 to E8 level. We have the same problem in the Australian Defence Forces.
Russia could be testing the repair response to the cable, simply by testing the deep water systems. At times, this looks like the Russian humor that most don't understand. Have you ever played a farming game on social media? From time to time you run into a guy that hires 10 people for a tiny job. This guy likes to watch those ten fight over the work like a bunch of dogs. This is an example of this form of humor. The issue is the ownership of things in international waters. If you define things loosely then those cables don't have an owner or the cables are invading areas they shouldn't. This can give you the "right" to destroy without the fear of discipline.
Walking on that rope bride is actually fairly easy because I once did it with the boy scouts when I was a teenager. I was kinda afraid that I might fall...but it was surprisingly effort less.
Your first comment about having a serious conversation with the troops is right on,,, it seems we have lost mission consciousness to political correctness, diversity sensitivity, and virtual training has led to near total incompetence at the most basic level,,,i.e. seeing it done on a simulator screen is not the same as having actually done the physical task at hand.
With the cost of undersea cables, more needs to be done to prevent such damage. I presume the 30m length was removed to prevent easy repairs. Perhaps Russia wanted to see how long it would take for the cable to be repaired. Only it didn't happen.
I’ve never been able to find a definitive answer on whether or not undersea fiber optic cables can be tapped without interrupting the connection. The old “Ivy Bells” taps were on copper cables which made taps comparatively easy, if I remember correctly.
As someone who made marine cables (onshore facility) for civilian stuff (can't talk too much about it because ITAR regs etc), you can cut and fusion splice a device or a splitter. It does interrupt the connection but it's not impossible. You do need to make nice clean cuts on the fibres though, if you fudge it you'll end up with coarse grains on the end and a useless fibre.
Solve this problem, and you'll be very rich or very dead. For now the security systems assume a channel compromised if the connection is paused for longer than N Ms.
Of course they still have their torpedo compartments. They have to be able to defend themselves somehow, they never know when their going to make Godzilla mad at them poking around down there.
How does the UUV find its way back to the moving sub? If the UUV can find the BS-64 "on the move" then the "good guys" also should be able to find it, right?
Being from Ireland, we have next to zero sub-surface detection capability and an EEZ that is 10 times our landmass (with a lot of submarine cables passing through), we have 7 ocean going patrol vessels and 2 CASA Maritime patrol aircraft…. Apart from monitoring what could we do (relatively cheaply) to persuade other countries from tampering with them in our EEZ ? Is there anything we could do if we happen across these operations (assuming we opposed even a basic sonar capability)? Just sit in the area and monitor?
It seems you may have taken Berger's quote out of context. When China is launching 25 new ships each year, he's concerned the "pace" of Navy / Marine advancement is too slow. I read the full interview this quote was taken from. In that interview, he's saying the "pace" of development of junior officers is too slow. He wants to find the high caliber leaders more quickly (in 12 months) instead of the 48-60 months it takes today. This is no way points a finger at the crews or workload on various ships...rather, it's his strategy for modifying training to more quickly identify quality leaders.
How do large and cumbersome submarines like the sb64 expect to defend themselves in a wartime scenario? Especially with their reduced mobility and sound silencing by the addition of docking mini subs
like most Russian delta class submarines and alike they would probably have an escort of at least one attack sub,see Aarons video on the subject of tracking these subs and avoiding the escort.
I'ts definitely fun to see those UUV's up here in RI .. L3 has a boat in a local marina I frequent. The folks down the street at the "Payload Integration Center" have some neat toys that get seen on occasion too. It's on my commute :) Keep up the great vids !!
The Joint Fleet Maintenance Manual, the Holy Bible of ship maintenance, outright states that a deployment is once every 3 years. Within that 3 years, you have time for training, maintenance, and conducting actual operation. Unfortunately, my experience has been deployments closer to every 22 months rather than 36. Since some maintenance cannot be deferred at all, what gets cut is training. I did a deployment through the Persian Gulf without ever having actually completed several training phase events. I was on a destroyer, hunting Iranian subs, and our ship never actually completed any of the USW events. And that's the norm.
You can see the tail pipe of the F-35 go from STOVL mode to normal flight you can see the necell swing to its normal location on the ski jump. I think it was pilot error and the wrong button got pushed
Omg so the Lo-Sharik, the one you were talking about in the beginning - it had a fire onboard and killed every crew member??!? Omg. Have you done an analysis video on that one?? If not, do you plan on it?? You should!!
Wouldn't the astute which was assigned to the Queen Elizabeth task group have been assigned to protect the downed F35 whilst it was recovered or would it not be able to do this task ??
Unless you are privy to classified info the public isn't, it would appear that only slightly more than half the crew perished in the fire aboard the Losharik, 7 first rate captains though, (for comparison only 2 were lost on Kursk.) so it's clearly an important vessel. It normally has a complement of about 25 according to wiki.
A plane in the med being picked apart by the lowshark? I wonder if that was in reference to the F-35 that was down their. lol the name BS-## is prefect for them. lol
would love to hear your take on titanium - its glass like tensile strength allowing incredible depths… yet its lack of plastic deformation (brittleness) means it must have been vulnerable to damage!
It's crazy to hear this is happening with the navy because I've been encountering the same issue in my industry and I suspect a lot of other private companies are facing it too. So many groups have been putting off maintenance for years now, running on skeleton crews and overworking people, all just trying to keep up with the geopolitical and economic landscape that is shifting under us. What we know for sure though is that this is a losing strategy. Eventually something breaks and you lose your ability to keep the company running or keep all your assets forward deployed anyway. But now you lose it at a random time and in a worse way than just doing the maintenance in a controlled fashion. For companies that usually means failure, or everyone quitting, you know kind of like what is going on right now. For the navy I don't know what it means. One day China is going to pull out of their harbor completely uncontested probably and nobody is around to stop them. Who knows what will happen then.
Ah yes, the Mir submersibles. Some pretty cool material tech innovations there, we built them and I heard the CIA did not believe they actually went as deep as they did (6+ km officially). Afterwards they learned that the damn things work and just threatened Finland to stop making them or else... which is not fair. The CIA should have bought some for themselves instead, triple price of course :-)
@@zabdas83 Well that was in the 80s, I have no idea if the US got it later or not. I have visited the shop where they were built a few years ago. They are still quite proud about the achievements back then :)
regarding the "comfortably comfortable" comment... I'm glad you are calling out high command for their fantasy assessments of what's actually happening on deck. Managment's disconnect with reality has put the Navy (and the US) at risk.
While we were shooting million dollar missiles at goat herders in flip flops in the Afghan mountains… China was building an advanced military with hypersonic weapons and Russia was building nuclear power plants on the bottom of the ocean.
There is allot of jobs in the service you can use as a civi... Computer techs, cooks, auto repair for humvie or air craft, pilots, construction/heavy equipment operates... Heck I am sure there is even laundry, or sanitation such as trash compactors on ships should train you to work in company like waist management.. They own the trucks that pick up your trash from the curb and take it to be sorted... Then also the service will help you get into law enforcement,....
One of the biggest reason why Russia is investing so much into their Subs is simply because lack of aircraft carriers which they view as obsolete in todays world, another reason is because NATO is expanding closer and closer towards Russian borders which threatens their nuke systems. So developing new and advanced subs bring back some of their edge back to respond in kind if worst comes to shove, hence why they invested so much into hypersonic missiles and that underwater nukes I believe they called it Poseidon but don't quote me on it! Now Russia is working on new aircraft carriers but it still hasn't picked off from the drawing board, one of the main reason was the fact that they didn't have any shipyard capable of building ships of that size. From what I've read, they had been upgrading and building new shipyards big enough to build aircraft carrier. There are talks about SEVMASH being a potential dock to build one of the carriers and then there are new dock's being built in Crimea and one somewhere in the Asia pacific. But who knows might not happen at all since COVID hit Russia they cut down their defense spending by 5% to redirect funds into relief fund and other stuff to get covid under control.
If the Russians want an F-35 they can probably get an intact one from Turkey, which was ejected from the F-35 program after the S-300 SAM purchase, but had been involved in development work prior.
Good sir, your comments are certainly to be respected. However, your perspective concerning getting additional skills shows a significant gap between how you trained to fight and how the men at the forward edge on the ground fight. The following gets closer to my view on diversity: Being able to reliably hit a moving hostile target at 300 meters, particularly on the two way range, at night with an empty stomach, etc. Being able to hump everything that one needs over all types of terrain and in every weather condition…forever…Learning to truly love your brother so that you would take a round for him even though he is uglier than a Sasquatch. In my experience, most recruits enter the system at such a young age that they bring little to the team in the way of practical diversity. What one learns in achieving these traits can make a man successful in any arena. It is my view that social diversity in our ranks is not a desirable end state. We start out unique and then get rebuilt to a standard. Rather, it is the commonality of purpose through discipline and training that carries through on most days. I realize that what you did as a submariner is no easy task, yet, I tend to think that some rifle time, road marches and PT would serve to give you a better perspective as to how tough your version of being forward deployed is.
JT, have you seen "Le Chant de Loup"? It's a French sub movie. Also, do you have perfect pitch? Have you encountered other sonar operators that have it? Would it/is it advantageous or is that just Hollywood guff? Thanks.
Somebody needs to remember that quality geeks and computer freaks usually are the opposite of the "military type" unable to run/march/salute. In a software industry the head programmers and coders may well look like hippies enough to totally freak any recruiting person.
Or are incredibly socially awkward and or autistic. Military likes tried and tested and will often shun other approaches or just go to what they deem to be the "best" civilian trained people (ie: those who have 1st class master degrees in a given subject), regardless if they actually know anything about the field in a practical sense or have seen the underside of a PCB in anything but a text book or paper.
I don't really understand all the fuss you do at Berger's statement. It's like you understand it without the negation he put in the first part of this sentence ?
Asymmetric warfare is Russia's forte. They'll always try something we least expect. The F-35 incident was caused by the blocking of an intake fan by a piece of rain protection plastic that had been forgotten. You can actually see it in the film.
@@LaVictoireEstLaVie I am not American and what you refer to is not really asymmetric warfare as its currently understood. The takeover of Eastern Ukraine and the Crimea was an advanced example of Russian asymmetric warfare. Talking of coup's - Russia under piton seems determined to upturn the free will of the Ukrainian people, supports dictatorship in Belorus and Venezuela - this NOW not 10-60 years ago. We can see you, even from here in the UK.
Perhaps General Berger was referring to our training as being at a "comfortable pace." The Corps has been stretched thin over that last two decades something he has to know. From what I gather from this article what both the CNO and the Commandant are saying is that we need to ramp up our training and preparation for a confrontation with China. All the services have trained for decades in preparation for a confrontation with the USSR on the European continent. We have been slow to change our training and tactics to combat our new greatest adversary. The latest Defense Appropriations Act has language in it that identifies China as our greatest adversary "Promotes democracy by countering China with strong funding to protect a free and open Indo-Pacific" which is code for funding additional assets specifically for combatting China. That being said, Putin is still dangerous and no doubt an ally of China. So if Berger is indeed talking about being complacent in our training then I will agree, but if he is talking about force tasking then he is indeed out of touch with reality. I have a difficult time believing that.
Putin is only "ally" of China thanks to constant US aggression, moving bases closer, breaking of treaties and word given previously. Russia could be western ally against China but NATO does everything to push them both together, utter idiocy if you ask me...
@@KuK137 Thank you for your reply comrade troll. Ask the people of the Ukraine what a wonderful guy Putin is. He will never be an ally of the US as long as this country remains a democracy something he has made concerted effort to undermine by interfering in our elections.
Imagine what Russia would be capable of it it didn't consistently have authoritarian, corrupt, incompetent governments? So much talent, so much opportunity, but so much political stupidity and malignancy.
@@christianjunghanel6724 There is no evidence it was us at all. Just wild accusations - "they have the capabilities, so they did it!" Many parties have the capabilities. An anchor accident is possible too.
@@vladimirdyuzhev But someone did ! The question is what would you do or what can you do with it? If it was russia what would they do with it ? Is it really that ludacris to asume it could have been russia? They do have a motive and they have the capability to do so which not many nations have , and they were in the area when it suposedly happened . Just saying.
When the cable what cut an alarm must have gone off. It would then be trivial to locate the location of the cut using current technology. Radar images and coastal survaillance logs would then easily identify any surface ship that could have been responsible. Maybe they just don't want to point at Russia in public.
Unfortunately, the buzzword "diversity" does not mean diversity of opinion, it means judging people on immutable characteristics, like the color of their skin and having the same political opinions.
"We can't be moving at a comfortable pace against our real enemy: the Air Force." That's what he meant, Aaron.
so like ww2 japan?
@@MrWizardjr9 Any parallels are due to the curvature of the political universe.
A marine once told me a story: My girlfriend said she likes guys in touch with their feminine side. So I lied and said I serve in the air force.
@@maximmatusevich3971 idk probably many marines would pass out in a 8g turn
Ahhh yes , the chair force
Well we were forward deployed in the 80’s. And the pace was maddening. It was only because we had broken equipment that we got any time off at all. Something was always broken and some equipment was never used, like the oxygen generator.
Having been a Marine ‘Grunt’ (Infantry Officer) for over two decades, it strikes me that General Berger’s comment is that of a out-of-touch politician instead of a in-touch Marine. IF the Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps concurs, the Commandant has surrounded himself with ‘Yes men.’ Our forces (all services) have been ‘rode hard and put up wet!’ When you do that to a horse, you will invariably pay a price when your next ‘ride’ is necessary. LtCol. J.R. USMC(Ret)
YES!!! So true. Thank you!
The ability to damage/neutralize undersea cables is a pretty big strategic advantage, so I don't think they are wasting the money building this kind of capability. You can basically bring a country's economy/every day business logistics down by taking out cables like this, even if the military has backups communication methods, this will impact the general public and cause chaos.
Starlink takes care of this.
@@rv8804 star link doesn’t have near the bandwidth to replace this at it’s current capacity.
@@John1911 Elon Musk does all. He is our god and saviour. Believe in starlink
I have an inkling suspicion that the tax free deals the US government have with Elon's companies is in exchange for the US military to piggyback on his satellites as backup.
@@abigailroberts7943 Very well could be. That and emerging technologies that the general public doesn't know about. Civilian contractor's have become an ever increasing source of strategic defense capabilities.
Another reason the Corps eliminated their heavy armor, along with much of their tube artillery is they don’t envision them being of much use on the relatively small small and relatively flat atolls. Rocket artillery on the other hand can be landed on adjacent islands or even fired from a ship at much further ranges. I understand the switch to MLRS but entirely disagree with the decision to eliminate their organic heavy armor. Not all the islands are small, many are large enough for large scale tank warfare. By divesting of their M1’s they are going to be rely upon the Army (again) to bail them out during larger offensive operations.
I get the feeling the Marine Corps will eventually cave and buy into the Mobile Protected Firepower program the Army is developing, but I bet it will take around a decade for them to realize why they had tanks in the first place.
I do as well. Personally I think that the firepower provided by a 105mm or better is going to be desperately missed when they start trying to get some poor bugger out of a hole in the ground. Maybe I’m wrong, maybe guided rockets will perform the task of breaching fortifications.
Would you be able to do a briefing on the Soviet sub which ran aground in Swedish waters in 1981? I was a BM2 aboard an LKA at the time and never heard the full story. Thanks.
He already did it
@@yoflo3002 more info please, I'd like to hear it too
Diversity sounds great until diversity becomes the goal at the expense of recruiting the best people
This argument has fallen flat on its face so many times yet ignorant people still cling to it
@@rjwood6314 I guess that's why you resort to name calling instead of refuting the statement
Our U.S. Military has its own culture separate but equal to our civilian society. To my knowledge, this culture has never been breached in the volunteer force until now (draftees are always different). My son is active duty and I'm a disabled vet. They've eroded our forces and their culture, but thankfully not to an unrecoverable degree. The theocratic dogma responsible for insisting upon proper pronouns and relativity of truth and integrity poses a serious threat to operational readiness. True equality has been a thing in our military for more than 100yrs. Soldiers are just green, Airmen are just blue, and Sailors are only haze gray. We did not need to be condition to find solidarity with our brethren... that is in fact, something our U.S. Military could teach the nation.
Wow, the title of the video caught my eye and sounds like it should turn out to be a very interesting video. Thanks for your continued efforts, and greetings as well from Framingham, Massachusetts. :) _John_
Okay in semi-defense of forward deployed. We did exercises with NATO (back in the early mid '90s) and those ships in those European fleets were kept in port most of the time. An evolution that would take us a minute or less (for example: fire on bearing at range and come new course at speed) would take them three to five minutes. You do need to put your ships out to sea because there is no classroom training that is a good replacement for first hand experience. I spent my five years at sea forward deployed and I was burned out ready to GTFO, but we knew what we were doing.
Best to do what the UK does and cycle crews and ships on a regular basis so you don't get fatigue but maintain a constant at sea presence. France does something similar but most of the other European navies keep most in port..well kept but they're to their navies as a garage queen cars is to a car enthusiast.
The ships are made to sail and made to fight.
@@S.ASmith Ask the USN to consider how something is done in another navy - lol. I was in the first integrated male female navy boot camp company. Other nations had integrated boot camp for decades. Did the USN take a look at how other nations did things, the problem they had run into and solutions found? Not only no, but H* NO! As a result we had three attempted suicides and I lost my virginity.
@@gallendugall8913 wait what are you? Male or female?
@@S.ASmith The problem the U.K. has right now is they don’t have enough ships. They’re down to 17 major non-CV surface combatants (frigates & destroyers) this total is expected to drop 15 by the middle 2020s. And because of their design limitations the UK carriers are de facto USN auxiliaries-The Brits only operate a handful of F-35s & need Marine F-35s to maintain a credible air wing.
@@grahamstrouse1165 This is true, and most of that comes down to bureaucrats and people that hate the West and my country inhabiting Parliament. (before you say vote them out, voting does nothing here lol, democracy is but an illusion).
Story of that Mir submarine mentioned - was build in Rauma -Repola ship yard in 1987 and accordingly USA was consulted before and the deal was given green light by washington since they did not believe that steel hull would be able to dive 6 K ! However its was quality workmanship and later Rauma-Repola was forced to resign from making submarines because USA threatened Finalnd for export controls and violating technology ban on Soviet Union.
A friend of mine has recently (in the last 6 months) been assigned to the Nimitz as a nuke and from what shes saying your spot on about it people being worked to the bone.
The small reactors are pretty simple. They are well understood and have been used in spacecraft (as well as terrestrial) for decades.
Essentially, they are enough radioactive material to generate heat, which is turned directly into electricity. No moving parts.
The Soviets used them to power lighthouses, bouys, and radiolocation stations in the arctic. The failure modes was scrap salvagers.
So they're RTGs, not nuclear reactors.
Rtg Is nuclear reactor. The very principle and physics of an rtg is exactly what a nuclear reactor is. The difference between a rtg and "everyday"/"common knowledge" nuclear reactors is the mode at which the heat is used. Rtg just uses the straight heat (yeah, some metallic plates, but effectively just a transference of heat) whereas "common" reactors have the heat transfer to water -> steam -> spin turbine -> turns electric generator.
Saying an rtg is not a nuclear reactor is saying a submarine is not a submarine.
-from nuclear engineer (ion propulsion researcher)
Thanks for sharing this, it was very informative. I also really liked how you respected the crew on the Russian sub and acknowledged it as a sad tragedy. All too often American military UA-cam channels tend to dehumanize the "enemy" and would ignore, if not dismiss, the human lives lost. I really appreciate how you're an American patriot and support our armed forces but don't try to denigrate other countries' warfighters.
Yeah tragic for their friends and family, but it was also probably a setback for their intelligence apparatus, so for that I’m grateful
Back in the 1980s through almost 2000... the Best trained and most effective Russian doctrine fighting force was the opposing force at fort Irwin, CA.. They trained every army fighting battalion for combat using Soviet tactics and doctrine.... after GWOT they switched to counter insurgency....why the navy doesn't have something like this is beyond me but I'm just me
GWOT?
@@matthewray1650 global war on terror.....was a thing after 9/11
@@roberthurley8366 ah righto, yes the war on the wrong country (Iraq). Yeah never understood the game plan for that arbitrary war. Terrorism is a difficult think to define and started the slippery slope of state surveillance policy across the westernised nations. Like Afghanistan very much felt like a repeat of Vietnam with improved tactics. Not a conflict I'm proud that we were party to, proud of how our troops performed just not of the politics that drew us in, gave birth to a lot of localised issues and radical parties in and outside of chambers. Like not to belittle the impact on America 11/9/2001 I get that pissed ya off but wasn't our fight until we made it our fight and in retrospect, seems hard to say it was worth the blood and resources.
The people's of USA and Russia have no quarrel with each other.
Where do you have 30m of cable missing? Reports say that 4300 meters was missing, but they did find 3000 meters of the cable, 11km from the original location.
So the cable in Norway wasn't actually an undersea network cable, for internet or phone or something, rather it was part of a network of sensors used to track submarines, fishery stocks, and various other things. Not only was a 30m section of cable cut, two of the sensor nodes were heavily damaged, and the cable, and insulation was substantially heavy that it rules out smaller unmanned vessels as it was quite heavy and required substantial power to even move, much less carry off. The estimate appears to be 9.5 TONS. The network in question is the LoVe network, and it's pretty clear that this was an effort by Russia to disable a sensor network operated by NATO on it's doorstep.
@@JohnMullee hmm, what about very hungry sharks? you never know how much determination thous creatures might have
Yeah, "pretty clear". Let me guess - that sensor network somehow didn't manage to sense and record a vehicle approaching and manipulating it?
I mean, if it did, Norgs would publish the sounds and we'd recognize our lovely Russian sub, modified or not, right?
Was it off or otherwise useless?
@@vladimirdyuzhev Probably did record, but that kind of thing would be pretty heavily classified as to not reveal methods and sources.
@@poiu477 Huh, I recognize the approach! "You're guilty, but we are not giving the proofs because they are classified!". A convenient way to blame anyone for anything - especially for own f-ups.
@@vladimirdyuzhev To be clear, I'm not lambasting the Russians for doing this, it's all part of the international chess game of undersea warfare. I guess NATO could've cut the cables themselves but that seems kinda silly. They way they were constructed almost totally precludes it having been ripped by a fishing vessel, and certainly precludes it happening unnoticed.
portable reactors work very differently than usual reactor they are similar to those space reactors and dont really fail... they have small power too.
Not reactors but RTGs radioisotope thermoelectric generators using Strontium-90
Diversity is a weakness not a strength!
Interesting perspective on Land Warfare - I know Sh*t about the navy other than soup at 10 and a warm place to sleep. Marines are a breed of their own, having exercised with them on multiple LSE and deployed on the active battlefield with them, comfort for them is extra batteries for their PVS 14 and maybe a shower every two weeks. Taking training outside the normal limits has OPSEC problems as seen to be training against a known Country TTP's - no one keeps quiet anymore. I'm sure the Commandant would be comfortable to evolve past the 3 block war, COIN and nation building to address 21 century threats in any number of AORs. No offense - the Navy is a transport mode for ground pounders. Cheers
I agree with your assessment of staff ranks not understanding what is happening at the E1 to E8 level. We have the same problem in the Australian Defence Forces.
Russia could be testing the repair response to the cable, simply by testing the deep water systems. At times, this looks like the Russian humor that most don't understand. Have you ever played a farming game on social media? From time to time you run into a guy that hires 10 people for a tiny job. This guy likes to watch those ten fight over the work like a bunch of dogs. This is an example of this form of humor.
The issue is the ownership of things in international waters. If you define things loosely then those cables don't have an owner or the cables are invading areas they shouldn't. This can give you the "right" to destroy without the fear of discipline.
If military service is a job, we've already lost! God help us.
Walking on that rope bride is actually fairly easy because I once did it with the boy scouts when I was a teenager. I was kinda afraid that I might fall...but it was surprisingly effort less.
Your first comment about having a serious conversation with the troops is right on,,, it seems we have lost mission consciousness to political correctness, diversity sensitivity, and virtual training has led to near total incompetence at the most basic level,,,i.e. seeing it done on a simulator screen is not the same as having actually done the physical task at hand.
With the cost of undersea cables, more needs to be done to prevent such damage. I presume the 30m length was removed to prevent easy repairs. Perhaps Russia wanted to see how long it would take for the cable to be repaired. Only it didn't happen.
do u think the largest russian sub that went missing is behind the pipeline breach ?
I’ve never been able to find a definitive answer on whether or not undersea fiber optic cables can be tapped without interrupting the connection.
The old “Ivy Bells” taps were on copper cables which made taps comparatively easy, if I remember correctly.
As someone who made marine cables (onshore facility) for civilian stuff (can't talk too much about it because ITAR regs etc), you can cut and fusion splice a device or a splitter. It does interrupt the connection but it's not impossible. You do need to make nice clean cuts on the fibres though, if you fudge it you'll end up with coarse grains on the end and a useless fibre.
Solve this problem, and you'll be very rich or very dead.
For now the security systems assume a channel compromised if the connection is paused for longer than N Ms.
Of course they still have their torpedo compartments. They have to be able to defend themselves somehow, they never know when their going to make Godzilla mad at them poking around down there.
That F35 that went swimming - I believe they left the covers on in the air intakes
How does the UUV find its way back to the moving sub? If the UUV can find the BS-64 "on the move" then the "good guys" also should be able to find it, right?
It has an inertial guidance, and it has the meet point programmed into it before the release. When very close it will hear the motherboat.
I’m less worried about a piece of cable missing as what else was contained in that section of cable.
Brilliant naval news + wise words captain as usual. Thanks
We’re building an undersea quantum cable with “inflight processing” that tells me we need a multi nation cable defense force to protect assets.
Being from Ireland, we have next to zero sub-surface detection capability and an EEZ that is 10 times our landmass (with a lot of submarine cables passing through), we have 7 ocean going patrol vessels and 2 CASA Maritime patrol aircraft…. Apart from monitoring what could we do (relatively cheaply) to persuade other countries from tampering with them in our EEZ ?
Is there anything we could do if we happen across these operations (assuming we opposed even a basic sonar capability)? Just sit in the area and monitor?
Would love it if you did one of your briefs on the history of the Iowa class battleships
Excellent information and interesting as always. Thank you.
Have you done a brief about the K-329 Belgorod yet?
It seems you may have taken Berger's quote out of context. When China is launching 25 new ships each year, he's concerned the "pace" of Navy / Marine advancement is too slow. I read the full interview this quote was taken from. In that interview, he's saying the "pace" of development of junior officers is too slow. He wants to find the high caliber leaders more quickly (in 12 months) instead of the 48-60 months it takes today.
This is no way points a finger at the crews or workload on various ships...rather, it's his strategy for modifying training to more quickly identify quality leaders.
How do large and cumbersome submarines like the sb64 expect to defend themselves in a wartime scenario? Especially with their reduced mobility and sound silencing by the addition of docking mini subs
like most Russian delta class submarines and alike they would probably have an escort of at least one attack sub,see Aarons video on the subject of tracking these subs and avoiding the escort.
Hard to get seen, under the layer with minimal 1/2 reactors running or anchored on the bottom.
Thanks for the heads up on MR. Work's article!
I'ts definitely fun to see those UUV's up here in RI .. L3 has a boat in a local marina I frequent. The folks down the street at the "Payload Integration Center" have some neat toys that get seen on occasion too. It's on my commute :)
Keep up the great vids !!
The Joint Fleet Maintenance Manual, the Holy Bible of ship maintenance, outright states that a deployment is once every 3 years. Within that 3 years, you have time for training, maintenance, and conducting actual operation. Unfortunately, my experience has been deployments closer to every 22 months rather than 36. Since some maintenance cannot be deferred at all, what gets cut is training. I did a deployment through the Persian Gulf without ever having actually completed several training phase events. I was on a destroyer, hunting Iranian subs, and our ship never actually completed any of the USW events. And that's the norm.
The Seaview had a flying sub a mini sub (but it was like wearing a red shirt on Star🖖🏼Trek) and a time traveling diving bell back in the 60’s! 😉😷
You can see the tail pipe of the F-35 go from STOVL mode to normal flight you can see the necell swing to its normal location on the ski jump. I think it was pilot error and the wrong button got pushed
Omg so the Lo-Sharik, the one you were talking about in the beginning - it had a fire onboard and killed every crew member??!? Omg. Have you done an analysis video on that one?? If not, do you plan on it?? You should!!
Damm Captain Jive you are even better than Cueblo on the USS Bedford.
Wouldn't the astute which was assigned to the Queen Elizabeth task group have been assigned to protect the downed F35 whilst it was recovered or would it not be able to do this task ??
Unless you are privy to classified info the public isn't, it would appear that only slightly more than half the crew perished in the fire aboard the Losharik, 7 first rate captains though, (for comparison only 2 were lost on Kursk.) so it's clearly an important vessel. It normally has a complement of about 25 according to wiki.
Under-reported as per Soviet doctrine
@@lukeiamyourfather6947 Methinks you've a bit too much tinfoil on your hat
@@poiu477 huh ? Soviets ain't forthcoming with accurate information. They even confuse themselves. Wikipedia is hardly accurate - nor is google 🙈
A plane in the med being picked apart by the lowshark? I wonder if that was in reference to the F-35 that was down their. lol
the name BS-## is prefect for them. lol
Maybe the "comfortable deliberate pace" refers to research & development, ship building etc. not on duty personel?
would love to hear your take on titanium - its glass like tensile strength allowing incredible depths… yet its lack of plastic deformation (brittleness) means it must have been vulnerable to damage!
It's crazy to hear this is happening with the navy because I've been encountering the same issue in my industry and I suspect a lot of other private companies are facing it too. So many groups have been putting off maintenance for years now, running on skeleton crews and overworking people, all just trying to keep up with the geopolitical and economic landscape that is shifting under us.
What we know for sure though is that this is a losing strategy. Eventually something breaks and you lose your ability to keep the company running or keep all your assets forward deployed anyway. But now you lose it at a random time and in a worse way than just doing the maintenance in a controlled fashion. For companies that usually means failure, or everyone quitting, you know kind of like what is going on right now.
For the navy I don't know what it means. One day China is going to pull out of their harbor completely uncontested probably and nobody is around to stop them. Who knows what will happen then.
And then all that deferred maintenence wears those assets out, so they have to spend more money than they would have to replace it.
So these could be used to placed tsunami nukes very deep to later create Fukushima like events?
Makes me wonder how many Cables have been "bugged" without anyone noticing 🤔
Love the talk show thank you knowledge is good 👍👍👍😎
The FBI was gunna stop drug testings just to get better hackers.....
Ah yes, the Mir submersibles. Some pretty cool material tech innovations there, we built them and I heard the CIA did not believe they actually went as deep as they did (6+ km officially). Afterwards they learned that the damn things work and just threatened Finland to stop making them or else... which is not fair. The CIA should have bought some for themselves instead, triple price of course :-)
Please explain this for my ignorance is limitless?
@@zabdas83 Explain what? A dude in Finland invented a novel way to make metal bits way stronger than before->profit->ban.
@@benbaselet2026 Finland builds very deep going Subs for Russia? The US doesn't have this tech?
@@zabdas83 Well that was in the 80s, I have no idea if the US got it later or not.
I have visited the shop where they were built a few years ago. They are still quite proud about the achievements back then :)
regarding the "comfortably comfortable" comment... I'm glad you are calling out high command for their fantasy assessments of what's actually happening on deck. Managment's disconnect with reality has put the Navy (and the US) at risk.
While we were shooting million dollar missiles at goat herders in flip flops in the Afghan mountains… China was building an advanced military with hypersonic weapons and Russia was building nuclear power plants on the bottom of the ocean.
There is allot of jobs in the service you can use as a civi... Computer techs, cooks, auto repair for humvie or air craft, pilots, construction/heavy equipment operates... Heck I am sure there is even laundry, or sanitation such as trash compactors on ships should train you to work in company like waist management.. They own the trucks that pick up your trash from the curb and take it to be sorted... Then also the service will help you get into law enforcement,....
Please do a videer on the new glide torpedoes dropped by the P-8 and if this weapon is a game changer for ASW.
One of the biggest reason why Russia is investing so much into their Subs is simply because lack of aircraft carriers which they view as obsolete in todays world, another reason is because NATO is expanding closer and closer towards Russian borders which threatens their nuke systems. So developing new and advanced subs bring back some of their edge back to respond in kind if worst comes to shove, hence why they invested so much into hypersonic missiles and that underwater nukes I believe they called it Poseidon but don't quote me on it! Now Russia is working on new aircraft carriers but it still hasn't picked off from the drawing board, one of the main reason was the fact that they didn't have any shipyard capable of building ships of that size. From what I've read, they had been upgrading and building new shipyards big enough to build aircraft carrier. There are talks about SEVMASH being a potential dock to build one of the carriers and then there are new dock's being built in Crimea and one somewhere in the Asia pacific. But who knows might not happen at all since COVID hit Russia they cut down their defense spending by 5% to redirect funds into relief fund and other stuff to get covid under control.
If the Russians want an F-35 they can probably get an intact one from Turkey, which was ejected from the F-35 program after the S-300 SAM purchase, but had been involved in development work prior.
So, if the US military are not training for possible tactics, then what are the military training?
Awesome info
Keep up the videos 🥸👍
Having SeaQuest 2032 vibes
they stole the 30m as a patch for one of their cables.
Hrm. I wonder what happened to that pipeline.
Good sir, your comments are certainly to be respected. However, your perspective concerning getting additional skills shows a significant gap between how you trained to fight and how the men at the forward edge on the ground fight. The following gets closer to my view on diversity: Being able to reliably hit a moving hostile target at 300 meters, particularly on the two way range, at night with an empty stomach, etc. Being able to hump everything that one needs over all types of terrain and in every weather condition…forever…Learning to truly love your brother so that you would take a round for him even though he is uglier than a Sasquatch. In my experience, most recruits enter the system at such a young age that they bring little to the team in the way of practical diversity. What one learns in achieving these traits can make a man successful in any arena.
It is my view that social diversity in our ranks is not a desirable end state. We start out unique and then get rebuilt to a standard. Rather, it is the commonality of purpose through discipline and training that carries through on most days. I realize that what you did as a submariner is no easy task, yet, I tend to think that some rifle time, road marches and PT would serve to give you a better perspective as to how tough your version of being forward deployed is.
so when can we expect non metallic submarines? 20 years?
Didn't some of the crew of Losarik survive?
1 civilian I believe
Classified.
JT, have you seen "Le Chant de Loup"? It's a French sub movie. Also, do you have perfect pitch? Have you encountered other sonar operators that have it? Would it/is it advantageous or is that just Hollywood guff? Thanks.
Annoyingly enough, americans pressured finland to stop making those deep-submersibles.
Russian are getting into some real SeaQuest DSV type stuff.
@@arteljus983 You got him with the age thing!)))
So long as they don't capitalise off the giuk gap lol 😆
Is HI Sutton an individual?
Was the San Juan found?
Yes
The YT channel "Dark Seas" did a video about the San Juan loss 🙋🇺🇲🛠️🇷🇺
Somebody needs to remember that quality geeks and computer freaks usually are the opposite of the "military type" unable to run/march/salute.
In a software industry the head programmers and coders may well look like hippies enough to totally freak any recruiting person.
Or are incredibly socially awkward and or autistic. Military likes tried and tested and will often shun other approaches or just go to what they deem to be the "best" civilian trained people (ie: those who have 1st class master degrees in a given subject), regardless if they actually know anything about the field in a practical sense or have seen the underside of a PCB in anything but a text book or paper.
What if aliens from outer space took that 30m section of underwater cable?
I don't really understand all the fuss you do at Berger's statement. It's like you understand it without the negation he put in the first part of this sentence ?
Fantastic content. Thanks so much.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Asymmetric warfare is Russia's forte. They'll always try something we least expect. The F-35 incident was caused by the blocking of an intake fan by a piece of rain protection plastic that had been forgotten. You can actually see it in the film.
@@LaVictoireEstLaVie I am not American and what you refer to is not really asymmetric warfare as its currently understood. The takeover of Eastern Ukraine and the Crimea was an advanced example of Russian asymmetric warfare. Talking of coup's - Russia under piton seems determined to upturn the free will of the Ukrainian people, supports dictatorship in Belorus and Venezuela - this NOW not 10-60 years ago. We can see you, even from here in the UK.
I heard somewhere that Norway had pledged aid to Ukraine if invaded by Russia, so could the cable damage be a message?
One anchor can snap the cable as well... happen more than once russia don't need to warn insignificant country
Virtual training? Yeah; love me all that virtual PT.
I don't think that you understand, "diversity" means discriminating against White Sailors in favor of Sailors-of-Color.
Ivy Bells was a hard lesson, ergo their new interests. Your Acting as a TD likely better than teaching at BESS on rotation..
But Kursks submarine was sunk by the US sub.
Are we talking about how this capability was possibly used to sabotage the Nord Stream pipelines?
I thought the whole reason for both Gulf wars was to keep the price of Texas/Saudi/Wyoming oil high.
Forward deployed??? At The frontline Thier throwing rocks at each other.
Perhaps General Berger was referring to our training as being at a "comfortable pace." The Corps has been stretched thin over that last two decades something he has to know. From what I gather from this article what both the CNO and the Commandant are saying is that we need to ramp up our training and preparation for a confrontation with China. All the services have trained for decades in preparation for a confrontation with the USSR on the European continent. We have been slow to change our training and tactics to combat our new greatest adversary. The latest Defense Appropriations Act has language in it that identifies China as our greatest adversary "Promotes democracy by countering China with strong funding to protect a free and open Indo-Pacific" which is code for funding additional assets specifically for combatting China. That being said, Putin is still dangerous and no doubt an ally of China. So if Berger is indeed talking about being complacent in our training then I will agree, but if he is talking about force tasking then he is indeed out of touch with reality. I have a difficult time believing that.
Putin is only "ally" of China thanks to constant US aggression, moving bases closer, breaking of treaties and word given previously. Russia could be western ally against China but NATO does everything to push them both together, utter idiocy if you ask me...
@@KuK137 Thank you for your reply comrade troll. Ask the people of the Ukraine what a wonderful guy Putin is. He will never be an ally of the US as long as this country remains a democracy something he has made concerted effort to undermine by interfering in our elections.
Imagine what Russia would be capable of it it didn't consistently have authoritarian, corrupt, incompetent governments? So much talent, so much opportunity, but so much political stupidity and malignancy.
How do you feel about Taiwan about to lay down a sub????
nothing... they just were not able to buy any so they have to build their own.
this is a message from 2092, the russians were fighting an underwater war with kaijus from the oceans deep floors :P
one step back, two forward :) in that order it must
I think they got themself a free sample of western undersea cable they can now test how manipulate in a test facility or labor!
Yeah, right. Never seen them optical cables, us, peasant Russians! Such a wonder!
@@vladimirdyuzhev Then what do you think they took it for ? Seems to be lot of trouble
Just to do some vandalism🤔!
@@christianjunghanel6724 There is no evidence it was us at all. Just wild accusations - "they have the capabilities, so they did it!"
Many parties have the capabilities. An anchor accident is possible too.
@@vladimirdyuzhev But someone did ! The question is what would you do or what can you do with it? If it was russia what would they do with it ? Is it really that ludacris to asume it could have been russia? They do have a motive and they have the capability to do so which not many nations have , and they were in the area when it suposedly happened . Just saying.
When the cable what cut an alarm must have gone off. It would then be trivial to locate the location of the cut using current technology. Radar images and coastal survaillance logs would then easily identify any surface ship that could have been responsible. Maybe they just don't want to point at Russia in public.
pretty sure they would jump at the opportunity to blame this on Russia
Mine the seabed.
Imagine losing a carrier, literally underwater.
All of it? I want to be your mines supplier!
Unfortunately, the buzzword "diversity" does not mean diversity of opinion, it means judging people on immutable characteristics, like the color of their skin and having the same political opinions.