Prince Caspian (2008) How They Should've Done It
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A Wrinkle in Time is coming out real soon. So I thought I'd analyze another classic book turned film, The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian. This film, while not bad, sort of missed it. Here are 3 things I think they could've done to make it awesome!
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Commentary/Review
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What I really like about the movie is that part where they attack the castle and this epic battle unfolds. But as they prepare for battle, this time all the Narnians shout, "For Narnia!" and then they attack. Usually they say, "For Narnia and for ASLAN!"
And in the end they lose the battle horribly.
Just before the battle, when they were still at Aslan's How, Peter said that they can't wait any longer for Aslan to show up. And it was clear that Lucy was not okay with this. It portrayed Peter's character in Prince Caspian so well in my opinion. The way he wanted to do things his way or no way. Shows how we need God. In my opinion, I think the movie was very well done and had a darker tone than the previous one
I loved it when Lucy holds her dagger on the bridge! Also, I'm sorry, but starting with Caspian was a smart move. It would have felt too slow if they did the flashback thing from the book. It structurally makes more sense to cut back and forth between them because it helps with the pacing.
That's a solid point about the pacing. I just wish as a whole it stayed closer to the book. But this and Voyage of the Dawn Treader may be the hardest to translate to film for pacing, not impossible just harder.
I absolutely adore your theological analyses of the Narnia series! I'm not particularly religious myself, but I'm a sucker for excellent analyses like these!
I'm so glad you're enjoying them! I love Narnia! That series has spoken to me so much and I'm excited to share that. Thank you for watching.
You make so many good points. I like this idea for a series
Thank you for putting God in the story! Also, one thing they did differently in the movie was they put some sort of romance between Caspian and Susan and Caspian was only supposed to be around Lucy's age in the book
Yeah, that love story was so unnecessary. I really don't know what they were thinking there lol!
I can't leave God out of the story, He's the most important part 😀
@@ChrisDurban :)
Kayla McKee From the book: "Peter had a glimpse of a horrible...creature, half man and half wolf, in the very act of leaping upon a boy about his own age..." If Caspian and Peter are the same age, then Caspian is between four and eight years older than Lucy.
@@ChrisDurban In today's world saying that you could lose your job,rent,whatever if we let the deep state take over completely which came real close in 2008 thru 2013.
Though my daughter and I both liked the movie, we were both upset about how the story was changed, especially in Voyage of the Dawn Treader. The first movie was much, much better.
Yeah, they stayed the most faithful to the first one. I wish they stayed closer to the books for this and Dawn Treader as well. But I liked it in Dawn Treader when Lucy learned the value of being herself, and Aslan showed her the value he sees in her.
Wonderful analysis. You should go into screen writing. The biggest reason why LOTR was such a big success, was of the respect for the source material from Peter Jackson to everyone in the technical and production end to the actors. For me what we ended up with was a fictional account of a fantasy book. I like you, am skeptically hopeful for the Netflix installments of Lewis ' work. Again, what you do is refreshing. Cheers.
One of my favorite scenes is when they resurrected the White witch and she does that classic narcissism and says you can't do this without me and Peter almost considers releasing her it was very good character development him doubting himself as a powerful King
As you were describing everything I imagined it in my head and it was epic!
It's such a great book. I see why they did what they did to keep the pace up, but I still believe they could've kept it closer to the book.
I absolutely agree with you! Great video
The biggest thing I hated about the movie adaptation of Prince Caspian was the Hollywoodized kiss at the end🙄 Completely unnecessary and wasn't in the book! (I haven't seen the movie since it first came out, but I recently reread the book.)
The book is great! I really have no idea why they veered away from it so much. I think they feared there wouldn't have been enough action. Netflix has the rights and I'm praying they stick to the books.
@Durbania yes! Me too! But I fear it won't be so good. I predict they will try and take as much of the allegorical elements related to God out if they can possibly help it, I'm afraid. Especially considering the recent extremely controversial film they released😬
Haha sorry, I'm normally not so pessimistic.
@@MisterWhistler1 I try not to be pessimistic either. But I am concerned they'll remove as many allegorical elements to God they can. I truly hope not. There is potential here for these amazing stories to get the budget and treatment they deserve, and Christ is the very heart of it so He needs to remain in it.
my family owns the same version of Prince Caspian with the cover you used in the beginning, as well as the rest of the series.
The resolution isn’t Lucy standing on the bridge with her dagger, but Aslan sending judgement upon the telmarine army with a flood just like in Genesis. Liberating school children is cool, but I think it was better to stay focused on liberating Narnia by taking out the army
Great analysis and suggestions! Loving your channel!
Great foreshadowing line with Susan
While the original 2005 The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe movie wasn't bad, this one just annoyed me, mostly because of the romance between Susan and Caspian. In the books, he's supposed to be a young boy around Lucy's age, not a grown man. I really don't think it was necessary to put a romantic subplot in the movie, especially because Susan isn't even coming back to Narnia.
I totally agree. The Susan/Caspian thing amounted to nothing and there was no real purpose for it at all. I really wished they went closer to the book in this one. Hopefully on Netflix they'll get it right.
Love how passionate you are about Narnia 🙏🏼💙
The sequel is a lot more darker than the first film people get killed left and right and not turned into stone but I really liked it .It felt like game of thrones
awesome analysis, i agree with everything you said. subscribed!!
Thank you so much! So glad to have you as a sub.
I think Disney can't do Aslan, because they don't understand who he is. According to C.S. Lewis, He was not intended to be a "christlike figure", but literally the God of all possible worlds, including ours.
Loved your perspective!! Aslan is essential for this book/ movie translation
Yes he is! Peter forgot who made him King and it all comes back to trusting Aslan. So even though it's WAY different than the book, they kept the heart of the story which is following Aslan.
@@ChrisDurban i hope they start with magician's nephew first
Very well done! Really enjoyed how you blend the two to get home the far more important points! Yeshua is King and when the Lion speaks, mountains move.
Amen!
So I will go back and read the First 3 books as I just finished the last four books.
Great video man! I like the Prince Caspian movie, and think it added some good things to the story, but definitely agree that it could have executed things way better if it stuck to its source material more.
The reason Lucy pulling out her dagger in front of the Telmarine army didn't feel stupid to me was because she knew who was behind her. Aslan had told her "Now you are a lioness," and the film shows this in this way instead of her being brave in waking up her siblings to tell them she's going to follow Aslan even if they don't, (which was better in the book but completely changed because they reordered what happens when in the movie). Prince Caspian would seem to work better as a miniseries since 3 to 4 chapters of the book jump away from the Pevensies to tell about Caspian, so it somewhat makes sense how they reordered the plot. But you made a lot of great points, and it would be awesome to see your version on the screen.
As you have said, it was a blow to find that this movie was compleatly out of context, so it show you how peaple can think they are a god fearing person, but ends up doing what they shouldn't do and think of themselfs better than others. Also to leave Aslan out until the last bit... was trajic, C S LEWIS would have a fit was he alive to see how they drained out his creation and the word of God. Be blessed and I hope them that makes films would stay in the boundries of the written word of the next book.
3:13 I haven't even finished the whole video and I never realized that the second movie was an allegory to modern atheists saying how the bible is fantasy AND an allegory for Cain, Abel, and worship... WOW.
Personally I think they should have toned Peter’s cocky attitude down, while still maintaining his characteristic of leadership. In the previous film he was an insecure boy who is expected to look out for his siblings and gets into his stride, but here he is such a spoiled, arrogant little pillock and it’s difficult to root for him.
I really enjoyed your video man, it is interesting to envision how an alternative version of the film could have played out. As much as I liked your video, I respectably don't agree. I think the story told on screen the way it was told in the book, wouldn't work. Because so much of the story would have to be covered via narration (Trumpkin catching the kids up on Caspians long story pre the kids arriving back in Narnia). This works well in book form, but it would create huge pacing issues in the form of film. Movies can't just sporatically introduce subplots and switch timelines the way books can, audiences loose attention. I actually really enjoyed the Prince Caspian movie, I liked it a lot more than most people did. I thought the filmmakers did a good job at giving the audience small pieces of backstory as the film progresses while still keeping the present story moving forward at a good pace.
This was unfortunately the story I liked the least, so I don’t exactly have any notable quotes memorized... only vague images of specific scenes.
So, um... I guess my favorite moment was Edmund telling the White Witch’s spirit to F off.
Haha same
There was a movie called Eat. Pray. Love (maybe it was based on a book? dunno) But there was a quote in this movie (I think it is based on a joke?) that I really love and it plays into this whole book perfectly.
"There's a wonderful old Italian joke about a poor man who goes to church every day and prays before the statue of a great saint, begging, "Dear saint-please, please, please...give me the grace to win the lottery." This lament goes on for months. Finally the exasperated statue comes to life, looks down at the begging man and says in weary disgust, "My son-please, please, please...buy a ticket."
Basically all these people and animals are praying praying praying (or not in the case of people thinking he doesn't exist) to Aslan to fix things and he doesn't and they don't know why and when they FINALLY blow the horn which is supposed to summon help they, surprise surprise. get help. Sometimes if you want someone to do something for you, you need to do something yourself.
I mean I know they were fighting their own battles and such, but they wanted Aslan to fix it without calling his number? (Im joking, saying the horn is his phone lol)
Anyways I agree that the movie is far from the book and they could have done better but I really do love this movie series and thank you for your review!
It has been a long time since I read the book so I can't comment much on how the movie differed from the book. I would like to make a comment or two on your suggestions. How you begin the movie is a massive amount of Exposition which is boring in movie form. We need Show don't Tell in movies, and we really don't need the history of how Narnia was conquered. It is. Move on from there. As for Lucy seeing Aslan and then waking everyone else up because she knows, that isn't Faith. That is Knowing. I got the message of Faith in Aslan/God from the movie pretty clearly. Plus, we need limited scenes with Aslan as he comes off like the Deus ex Machina anyway at the end. Like another comment said, the movie is about doing it yourself and eventually Faith is rewarded. These are my impressions from the movie, as I said, since I have not read the book since I was a kid.
I completely forgot Peter Dinklage was in this movie
Wow... Just found your channel And already subscribed. I am believing in God AND believing that Bible is a history book writen in perspective of One nation. Nontheless, I find your explanations really great, And some of the words you said, about begging for help and then trusting for the help to come, in today, I bet Ucrainians are begging and I must believe that a miracle will happen, because a nation so willing to survive the invasion of an evil power, must have it's voice in heaven, and shurely the God will answer. I am Latvian, and my first memories is my country finally breaking free from USSR despite noone believing it was possible. I believe that God helped US succeed, seeing deep un our souls, and I believe that he will help Ucrainians to free their land and to conquer the evil... Slava Ukraine!!!
The thing I hate about this movie the most is how much they cut out Aslan. In the book, Aslan is there before Peter finds Caspian. Aslan is the only reason Peter finds Caspian in the first place.
I do like how C.S. Lewis used Aslan in the book better. I like how the movie at least kept a Christian message, Peter in his pride was seeking his own glory. Then he was humbled and was seeking Aslan. But yeah, the book is better.
@@ChrisDurban movies are not meant to be copy and paste why are expecting that. stop complaing dude a movie can be good even if it isent closer the book so stop complaing what about peter jackson lord of rings trilogy. The are not faithful to books and people says its the greatest trilogy of all time so that happen to narnia as well without being closer to book book is the book
@@Dcuniverse60 Lord of the Rings is the greatest trilogy! I’m not complaining in this video. Movies and books don’t have to be copy and paste. But there were certain images and story lines that were so powerful that would’ve elevated this movie. I respect the movie kept the God centered storyline, and Peter having to humble himself and remember it was Aslan who put him on the throne. But I just think the book is better and they could’ve taken more inspiration from it.
@@ChrisDurban yeah right sure you just want admit you want everthing to exakt like the book. Your so full of shit. If you want book accurate you go ahead and reead the book
@@Dcuniverse60 Great idea! I do love the book and I’m due to go through it again.
I do not know way it didn't make much money I think the movie is better. The book in my opinion is hard to turn into a movie.
It's great story telling and you make some excellent points but faith is not a reliable pathway to truth. Why couldn't Aslan just reveal himself? I'm asking this about God too.
Great question. Thanks you so much for watching and commenting.
I'd say faith is the only pathway to truth. Because even atheists live by faith, and in some ways it's a faith greater than I have. My eye is made up of so many complicated elements that allow to me to see it's mind boggling! Even then the image enters upside down, yet my brain knows that and flips it. I have lungs that take in oxygen, a central nervous system, everything is so meticulously crafted. We breathe out carbon dioxide and trees breathe that in and breathe out oxygen. To say that all of that was an accident, even if it took millions of years (to my understanding evolution is not a living force with intelligence, it's a mindless process. How miraculous then a mindless process with no thought or will accidentally did all this) takes a faith I don't have.
This is where I believe God reveals Himself everyday. Creation itself is miraculous. Conciousness is miraculous. The fact that you and I are having this conversation is miraculous. I think the visible world shows clearly the Invisible God. It does take faith to know Him, but no one can escape faith. We all live by it whether we call it that or not.
I agree. We don't all have 6 senses. We only have 5.
Have you ever heard the Focus on the Family audi odrama of Prince Caspian from 2000? What did you think of it compared to the movie?
I haven't heard that. They did a great job with Screwtape Letters so I'll have to check it out.
YESSSS!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
Although it's very different from the book, I love most of the movie as is (the Susan/Caspian thing aside) because it's a wonderful portrayal of trying to do things in your own strength vs relying on God. Peter and the Narnians, proudly deciding not to wait for Aslan and put their trust in him is comparable to King Saul performing burnt offerings before battle without waiting for Samuel, or Abraham and Sarah not waiting for God to give them Isaac. Trying to do the right thing without God always leads to disaster, as shown by the Narnians' horrific failure to take Miraz's castle.
Then there's my all-time favorite part of the movie: the White Witch scene (which I firmly believe was inspired by the Holy Spirit). I love that Edmund was presented as a foil to Peter's pride and failure (he's reminiscent of 2 Corinthians 2:11, which says that we are not unaware of Satan's schemes) as well as how the true solution to their problems is visually presented when the ice wall shatters, revealing the engraving of Aslan behind it.
I also love how Lucy afterward says "perhaps we're the ones who need to prove ourselves to him" because it shows that Aslan isn't doing nothing in the midst of all this; he's simply waiting for Peter to humble himself and trust him with the issue at hand. In the end, Peter does and it pays off. All of this culminates in the moment when the river god devours Lord Sopespian. It's a visual representation of God defeating the massive obstacles in life that we ourselves could never, in our own strength, overcome.
Very good insight! I like that part too, Peter acting in his own pride and strength. He wanted to prove himself, in so doing he forgot who made him king in the first place and thus didn't look to the King Maker. Aslan said once a king or queen of Narnia, always a king or queen of Narnia. It wasn't Peter's turn to sit on the throne but Aslan still saw him as a king, and a had a great purpose for him. Peter just needed to humble himself and follow. A great lesson for us all.
@@ChrisDurban Thanks but I only know because the Holy Spirit told me, haha. He tends to speak to me through movies sometimes.
@@ChrisDurban netflix should really start with magician's nephew and next horse and his boy dont you think we have already done lion witch and wardrobe
@@Dcuniverse60 I think chronological order would be a good move. We would get Magician’s Nephew which we have never seen adapted, followed by LWW which we have seen, then The Horse and His Boy which we have never seen. So while I suggest reading in the order Lewis wrote them in, I think it would benefit Netflix to go chronologically.
@@ChrisDurban absolutey i just hope we can get more information from netflix if they do end up getting greta gerwig do you think the she would be good choice to direct first two Narnia films what would be your ideal casting choice you know pevensie siblings and aslan white witch
Until I read the book, I can't believe how "bad" the movie was.. taking out important parts and adding parts.. 🤦🏻♀️. The book was much better. Enjoyed your review.
Good job but on the fast side. It would be nice toned down a bit.
Too much arguing and fussing amongst the main characters in the film. Disappointing for me.
The cross over to Narnia was amazing though!
Glad I never saw this movie. The BBC versions stay more true to the books.
Do you think Link is the Hylian Jesus? Care to look into that while this is about God and fantasy worlds?
Some theorize it quite heavily and I don't know if it's all quack as there is some convincing sounding evidence even though Hylians have an ENTIRELY different? religion. Also your name is very Goron sounding. You sure your not related to Darunia?