I remember thinking I’d never get a steam deck after your first deck video 😂 so many hours logged on my limited edition oled deck 🤣🤣🤣. Been really enjoying cyberpunk
I don’t play any games that require anti cheat, so Steam Deck wins out for me. Steam OS (and steam input controls) is just so convenient. I ordered my oled 1TB on Christmas Eve. Can’t wait to get it in time for my birthday in January 😊
Only online games I play have been updated for easy anti cheat on Linux/steam deck like for instance, battlebit remastered, Halo MCC, Elden Ring, and dead by daylight. Many others support easy anti cheat but not everyone unfortunately. Still the main games I play online work great so easy steam deck for me. And that battery life though
@@411sponge72 thanks! I love it! I actually had a problem with the first one they sent and had to send it for RMA, but I have my replacement unit now, too, and it’s pretty sweet. The battery life is amazing
I think the Steam Deck, particularly the OLED model is the better device overall. However since a few popular multiplayer games don't work on Linux via Proton like COD, Destiny 2, or Fortnite, (yet) if your potential enjoyment hinges upon your ability to play these games, you'll probably be happier with the Ally or Legion Go. Also if you're the type to get anxiety about not having the "best" or "fastest" available. The Ally and Legion Go are technically faster than the Steam Deck, and that might alleviate some of that anxiety. For some folks though nothing short of full-powered desktop performance will suffice, and these people probably shouldn't get a handheld at all. The Z1 Extreme chip in these devices can be pushed further than the Deck's custom SOC, but it's to the detriment of everything else. The Ally can run at 30 watts, but you'll get 40 minutes of battery life and you'll cook your SD card in the process. The Deck is an extremely balanced device in comparison. Everything about it feels like a careful and deliberate decision was made, from it's SOC performance and TDP, to it's screen resolution, button placement, shape, size, etc.
As much as I love the Legion Go I prefer the simplicity of steam os don’t get me wrong I like tinkering around on windows but after a busy day I just want to jump straight into a game and I haven’t got to worry searching around for drivers/updates the steam deck oled just has it all with one press of a button. I think that’s why I tend to stick with a console like experiences it just works out of the box.
With Steam Big Picture on Windows, you can achieve as close to that console-like experience. From waking the Legion Go from hibernation and swiping up from the Lock Screen without entering a passcode, and jumping right into a game, it takes me about 10-15 seconds to be ready. Updating drivers and bios is a once in a while chore, but the day to day flow of gameplay with Steam Big Picture, is as close to a console setup as I can find.
I got my Legion Go to boot in 5 seconds flat once I got rid of the windows bloat and optimise it to the way I like it but even with it set to balance/efficiency the battery tends not to last that long and I feel like I’m always checking the battery every 30 mins or so. I really like the device but I like the display/battery more on the oled. I would say the legion go is the best windows portable device for gaming on the go other than the steam deck.
i got the steam deck oled 1tb limited edition too and i cant put it down this thing is amazing and the colors really pop, it has now completely replaced my ps5 and xbox series x since i got it lol
Best video on the subject so far, well done and thank you. I think the SD OLED strikes the best balance between performance, battery life and ergonomics. For now. A custom Windows release for handhelds could really shake things up. It looks clear Windows isn't getting the best out of that z1 extreme chip.
The only reason why I didn't buy the Limited Steam Deck Oled was because of the Etched Display, I really love the way the Limited SD Oled looks, but I don't like the etched display on my 512gb LCD SD, really wish they gave an option to choose. I went with the 512gb OLED instead and will upgrade the SSD. Glossy looks so much better and get lets fingerprints and it's much easier to clean.
@@Kamzzmixeditit is 100% worth it in my whole opinion. The OLED display will be a night and day difference, like seriously, it will be like you are playing video games again and feel "next Gen" The battery life of the OLED is so so much better, at 90hz/fps it gives me 1-1:30 more compared to the LCD and locked at 60hz/fps it doubles the battery life compared to the LCD. The trackpad haptics are way better too, so much refine and it will be a quality of life improvement. And, the most important things that I haven't seen anyone mention, is how smooth the OS and the UI feels. I know that the display is 90hz, but it doesn't have to do with it, the OS itself just feels really smooth without any stuttering or frame drops like I get on my LCD Deck. And, the increased screen size is noticeable too and much much better than the LCD screen size. Hope it helps, I say it's 100% worth upgrading. I recommend you get the 512gb version, and upgrade to a 2tb SSD for $150 and you will end up paying the same price of the 1tb SSD, also, the glossy is just so much better than the etched version, and, you could always get an etched screen protector for the glossy SD.
Dang, you really think the etched glass is not as good as the glossy? I mean, I guess I'll have a screen protector on either way, but no I'm confused haha.
@Ditronus. I've heard both sides, though nobody has compared them side by side. For the most part, what I understand is that the glossy seems preferred. I guess my next goal is to look for a video comparing it 😆 I've already got the 512gb, I didn't know about the different screens pre purchase. I digress, as he said, you can always get an etched screen protector.
I'm currently deciding which device to get and after looking into the subject for a few days now, I think that the Steam Deck is the better choice for me. If I want full power, I'll use my gaming PC and if I want to play on the move, I'd rather use a device where I can really be mobile for longer. The Steam Deck clearly has more battery. I don't want to play from plug socket to plug socket. :D But I'm happy that there are so many devices out there, that stimulates the market and, in the best case, keeps giving us new and better versions at good prices. :)
@@enriquecarvajal4588Here I am contemplating upgrading to 2 tb, possibly 4... thinking 4 is overkill... Then there was 5! I'm probably going 2 tb, no adapter and use the original 500 gb into an enclosure usb stick.
@@BK-sx5psI’m doing a 4tb 2280 and I could do the 1tb microsd for 5tb total but honestly 4tb has been a little overkill lol I think for ease of everything 2tb is more than enough. It’s not hard to do the 2280 mod but for me I’d rather use that 4tb on my desktop.
The reason for the LCD deck having better frame rates when set to 10W vs the OLED model is that the TDP setting is not setting total system power, and it doesn't really match for the two consoles. If you match actual power used, the OLED always comes out on top. To match it you have to look at the total power used in the performance overlay and experiment until they match (or as close as you can get).
Someone explained there is no standard way to measure TDP. When you set the TDP to 15 watts the cpu and gpu is spiking up and down hopefully averaging 15 tdp. For example for a few ms the Apu used 5 watts then uses 25 watts trying to average 15 TDP. The gpu wattage spikes more than the cpu. The reason the LCD model gets a little better performance at low TDP is because the GPU is allowed to spike to higher watt for split second more than the OLED model. The OLED model limits more how much the GPU can spike. This means the OLED Model measures 10 TDP more accurately than the LCD model. With the higher gpu wattage spites at 5 TDP and 10 TDP the APU can't get low enough to "repay" back to the average. Thus the average ends up being a watt or two higher than the setting on the LCD model. The OLED model apu is more efficient and cooler increasing the battery life.
Steam deck OLED is the Best. The other ones are cool too, but whatever anyone chooses , it’s VALVE that everyone gets, valve is Pro Customer, you don’t see that anymore.
Great video. My go to is the Legion Go, I have a Steam Deck I no longer use because of the limitations of Linux. Windows has it's issues on handhelds, but it's work it for compatibility.
Team Gaming!! XD I am still rocking with my LCD Deck for now, but slowly adding extra funds to my steam wallet so I can make the upgrade. Unless of course I try to find a limited edition being sold elsewhere ;-;
16:04 regrading hdr support its a linix issue and work have been going around and have progressed close to finish. Kde(steam decks desktop mode) will support hdr(properly) with plasma 6 update, which will go live around the end of February.
I got my ally and waited a week befofe i took a deep breath and used an sd card and its broken lmao. Bu5 good new is its just the reader but i dont care. Sd was extremely slow transferring when i was on stead deck so ill jus5 grab a big ssd and be fine
Been remote playing from my PS5 and PC for a few months on my LCD Steam Deck (have a well set up ethernet network around my house so it works flawlessly) and I love doing it so much I've ordered the OLED Deck,
Just bought the OLED. If I wanna play with the best performance and graphics I take my gaming PC. But if I want to play in the bed or on the go the Steam Deck is way ahead of the other two because of the better power usage 🤷♂️ If I hadn't my gaming PC I would have picked the ROG for sure.
Exactly. I've got a gaming PC and gaming laptop that blow the ROG out of the water. If I want higher performance, I have options. If I want a mobile handheld, I have the best one with SD OLED. Just the comparison showing these systems running at 15w should show you all you need to know. And the 50% battery life that comes with that. 👏 👏 👏 thanks Valve!
Playing the heck out of my Deck Oled and already got PS1, 2 and 3 emulation running, remote play, some Steam games and PSP on it. This is an amazing device and the battery lasts long and the customization is amazing.
it's been a great year for handhelds and honestly could be the future of "mobile" gaming instead of gaming laptops. also, UI experience/software personally is superior to new hardware and Valve still proving that with steamOS 2 years on but really glad to see improvements in ally and go
The deal breaker for me for the Viture was the proprietary connector. If they had an adapter to use other usb c dp alt cables then that would have been ok but I went with the Xreal instead.
If you are a console person the Steam Deck is the only choice. I have chosen the windows path myself and don’t mind playing with settings and working with Windows. For those who have not played games on a pc think hard before you choose.
Great comparison! The HDR issue with Spiderman 2 isn't unique to the Steam Deck, the same problem exists on HDR panels on PC. The HDR color space isn't done correctly.
Team gaming indeed. I'm so glad to hear people say they prefer the symmetrical sticks on the 'Deck than and Steam OS are the factors that are driving me to save for an OLED now over the others. The majority of my Steam titles _aren't_ AAA games, so the 'Deck will probably last me into 2026.
thank you for a very informative video. I am 62 years old Switch oed owner and happy with that, mostly because Company of heroes came to it and it really is art itself. Steam Deck suppouslly can play all 3 Company of heroes and many more.
I think I’m leaning more towards rog ally. I’m only using it as a switch replacement so it’ll be dock most its life. I play mostly steam games roguelite and party games. Bluetooth 5.3 is very compelling on the deck oled because I like party games of 6 players. But I can get rog ally for $400 versus $500 for deck oled.
Is this a sponsored video? Thanks for all the info! So there aren’t any handhelds more powerful than Ally and Go huh? I love removable controllers but dislike how big the Go is
I just oredered the 1TB Oled after selling my 64g LCD to a friend after about 6 months of use. I was overall very happy with the LCD but the better screen, battery life, and performance of the Oled was very appealing. I use my Deck mainly in handheld with occasional docking to a 50" tv. I have also been using my Xreal Air glasses with the Deck and it's a very good pairing imo. Im glad there is healthy competition now with these handhelds so us as gamers can reap the benefits!
It has been demonstrated that the LCD version doesn't really lock TDP at 10 W while the OLED does. So it's like LCD can jump higher where needed, while OLED really stay at 10.
Great video! Regarding the TDP differences at 10w between the Steam Deck LCD and OLED, the Phawx youtube channel did a great breakdown explaining how the reported TDPs between LCD and OLED Deck are slightly different (10w TDP on OLED is actually using less energy than 10w TDP on LCD and is probably more equivalent to 11w). The OLED 6nm APU is more efficient at all TDP ranges.
Very high quality of information and very little filler! Really stands out man. Completely agreed about the OLED Deck at 10-15W, I love mine. It feels the most console-like and is an amazing portable companion with the etched glass. I can grab a few minutes of a game anywhere. For people without a gaming PC or who play games with rootkit kernel anticheat or who prefer to rent games, Ally is a great choice with VRR.
Actually the decision is so much simpler : wanna play Mario or a completely stripped down version of a AAA game? Get the Steam Deck. Wanna play a AAA game properly? Get the Ally! Simple as that really. I saw the Steam Deck and apart from very very VERY few games the graphics is....meh to say the least. You can see the limitations of a really old chip . Why would I wanna do that? Battery? Screw that, I already have a 20A powerbank , I just hook it up to my Ally, it has bypass charging and I can play on the go. Also most of the times I'm playing at home so the original charger is nearby. The single real advantage now is the OLED display, even the best LCD display cannot match the contrast and color saturation of an OLED, if my Ally had an OLED display it would have been a 10/10 device.
This video is a nice analysis of the 3, but fails to talk about a huge advantage the Ally has vs the competition: VRR. I had a Steam Deck LCD for a year and it was good for the most part. Never liked playing higher demanding games at 30-45fps and low settings. Bought an Z1 Extreme Ally a few weeks ago and VRR is SUCH A HUGE UPGRADE. Even the OLED Deck will not keep any slightly demanding games at 90hz at a constant 90fps. And after using the Ally's 120hz (90hz will be so close in perceived fluidity), the 60fps mark is nauseating of the LCD Deck. I don't care about HDR nor battery life, so the Ally scores it big for me. And I can run games at medium to high settings at either 21w or 24w to get the most out of it.
The reason the LCD deck comes out on top regularly is because Valve doesn't actually limit the power of the APU when you define a custom TDP, the Phawx discovered this some time ago. Even the new deck isn't quite running with a hard wattage limit of 15w at the 15w TDP setting, it'll typically pull closer to 18w in most cases where the old deck pulled close to 21w. With the deck LCD running at 15w and the Ally running at 15w the Ally has 15 minutes (~20%) more battery life than the deck despite them having the same battery capacity, so if the new deck didn't have a 50wh battery then it'd likely be dead even for vitality with the Ally. The Ally likely does hard limit the APU to whatever the power setting is, that's the only reasonable way to actually explain how the deck performs better in lower TDP scenarios because the Ally's CPU cores can be parked and having more CUs on the GPU just means they will run at marginally lower clocks and deliver significantly better performance overall in all cases, and that's before even considering lithography advantages.
Awesome video. I got a steam deck lcd when they dropped and then got the ROG ally shortly after it dropped . My pc I built uses a 7800x3D and 4090 so I love the extra performance the ally gives but the sleep/resume function of the deck keeps me using it almost as much as the ally . Trying to get my wife to migrate from the switch to the deck so I can maybe upgrade when newer more powerful handhelds come out without feeling like I need to sell my Og steam deck with the kill switch
Steam oled here. Best choice for me, don’t need the most powerful as I only play older/roguelike/emulation games on mine. The epic stuff that requires power rather play on my 4090 rig in ultrawide.
Great video. I’m still on the fence on which system I want. Deck oled is what I think I want. The clunkyness of windows on a portable isn’t for me. But the Legion Go is compelling with that large screen.
i only bought the 512gb oled because the etched glass was going to annoy me... i mean i am the type of guy that notices a single dead pixel on a densely packed pixel on a screen.... so hearing about the horrors of the etched glass was a quick decision for me to get the 512gb model and i had to buy another case for a more smaller portable use....
Such a detailed video, more so than the 10 or so others i watched today. And yea i watched until the end. Really stuck in deciding which one to get. I like the better performance, native game pass setup, and button/stick layout of the Ally. I like the oled, better battery, and UI of the deck. I'm at a loss here. Kinda comes down to how close to native-y i can get gamepass on the steam deck and/or how well either of them run games (fps/resolution/battery) at medium settings. Heard a lot of people say Ally is less favored since its main strength is the better performance at high draws, but that leaves you with sub 1 hour battery; yet, ive heard others say they can get decent mileage of battery at medium settings and stuf no problem. No idea. Might buy em both to try them out (although i kinda dread running comparison tests and setting them up) to make a decision. Might just opt out of both since i have a lenovo legion gaming laptop anyways that doesnt get much action. Thanks for the video
It sounds like the Ally Z1 Ex may be the best 1st test drive for you, given your preference for its layout and the much easier return process with Best Buy. It sounds like you’re really after GP local play and Steam Big Picture will help with the console feel as well. But if you’re not completely in love with it in the 1st week, you know what to do ;). I think that would be a less stressful approach vs buying them both up at once.
Remote play your gaming laptop Its fantastic. I’m currently doing that with my g14 hooked up to ethernet as your right, around the holidays, and outside school, my laptop barely gets preferred
@@MrTekSuggest thanks for your help. Think I'll do that. The one thing that does make me lean more steam deck is the console-like out of the box feel. I hear some people dealing with errors and jankiness with the Ally since it's windows.
@@Ditronus. so one can use either two clients from the pc, Nvidias game steam in Nvidia Geforce experience or sunshine, setting up is either a installation (sunshine) or turning on in the setting (moonlight) after that, i just easily install moonlight specifically on the steam deck by with help from various youtube tutorials and I’m good to go. With ethernet and a modern router, latency is very much manageable and image quality is close to native. Then there’s PlayStation remote play one can do from ps4/5 to the steam deck. Id recommend a yt tutorial for both remote processes. Currently I’m playing starfield
Great video man! Team Gaming for sure. 👍🏻 I myself am just getting into pc handhelds. Just got back into gaming a year ago and in been rolling with a Switch OLED and Xbox X, but the idea of playing AAA games on the go is huge, so right now I’m looking at all 3. I think the Steam Deck OLED might be the best for me to get my feet wet since the Ally and Legion Go seem to be more complicated to get up and running.
Just look at what games you want to play and do a reality check first. The Deck is running Linux, and although compatibility is very good, not every game runs. I would say 70% of games on Steam "just work". Another 20% work fine with some tweaking. The remaining 10% doesn't work... yet. Proton is ever evolving, and what doesn't work today may very well work tomorrow. Still, if your potential enjoyment hinges upon whether you can or cannot play one or more of these incompatible games, some of which are popular multiplayer titles like Fortnite or Destiny 2, then it won't matter how good it is. You will be disappointed. It will be like owning a Playstation when all you really want to do is play Halo.
after having all 3 i just cant seem to prefer the deck or legion go over the Ally, gonna get a refund soon on my legion go from bestbuy, its just too clunky and uncomfortable for me while giving me identical performance as my Ally
I dont own a ps4, Ill mostly be playing plugged in on the couch. For that reason it sounds like the vote is to go with the rog ally. I was considering the steam deck but it sounds like Ill have sub par frames and game availability and I dont want to do that. Thoughts?
The Rog ally for you is the right choice if you are planning to play it plugged most of the time. Steam deck is more for people that travel more & uses it to play less demanding retro games.
It literally is the main reason. Also no real sleep function like the SD. These little things matter a lot, just hitting the power button and resuming the game later like SD. I ultimately picked Rog because I'm hoping there'll be some sort of community battery mod (better, more official than what's on Reddit). Also going to assume some unnamed hero will perfect a linux port for Rog...
@strahd462 not really, still makes it way smaller than anything else your going to be able to game on even with the battery pack. Your never going to use this walking around. So just having an additional battery back with it really makes no different. It's not like it fits in your pocket either.
this is so tough. im gonna be a dad later this year and i need to get away / unchained from my desk. at the same time, i want the performance of the ally. I bought a steamdeck OLED which should be here tomorrow but im just not sure about my choice. im sure id use it plugged in often, but i also see myself forgetting to plug it in and also being irked when the ally's battery dies on me. the need to be tethered to power seems to defeat the purpose of a handheld. i also worry that the turbo 30W mode of the ally would hurt the battery if you just use it that way all the time. i wish the steamdeck had a turbo 30W mode where it kicked butt. just not sure i made the right choice here.
@@bobtheraccoon318 took about 3 and a half weeks. enough time for me to consider the ally and then get my steam deck and be happy with it. the ally only works better than the SD when its plugged in, which makes the ally either a good handheld, or a shitty laptop depending on how you view it. the SD also has extreme battery life. youll be happy with your purchase. i havent used the track pads too much but they also dont get in the way. the screen is great, fun device.
I will generally play it in my bed , on the toilet and plan on docking it and hooking it up to my tv for a console like experience, what’s the best one for me ? Ally or deck ? Price isn’t a big deal , I would like to add though I have most of my games on steam but I know I can run steam on the ally
@@Neptune8 I was planning on getting a ROG but then I heard issues of heating and SD cards being almost broken from the heating issues so I bought a steam deck oled
I love competition and choices. Steam Deck is for those who actually want the most "consolized" PC experience. If so, you should go at once with the Deck. When it comes to the Windows OS handhelds, I will go with ROG Ally for these reasons: 1. (And most important) VRR. When one plays on a handheld like this, where your frame rates are dropping and lifting, VRR makes your session of gaming smooth and easier. You dont have to be toggling Hz of the display and more. Leave the fps uncapped and play. 2. Weigh and size: Legion Go is way more bigger and its weight is too much for a handheld in my opinion. 3. Smaller screen: a 1600p big screen will make 720p, 900p and even some 1080p games blurry due to pixel density. 4. Armoury Crate is better as of now. 5. GO speakers are upside. Really weird decision. At the end, choose the one you prefer the most and let's game!
I've had both. Your not dealing with a ton of performance on these handhelds. So it has to be the ally all the way for me. I like to do alot of emulation and the steam deck does struggle alot in ways the ally doesn't, especially with Wii u/switch games
I think where Valve wins out with the Steam Deck is the entire package and quality control, basically, the Steam Deck feels like a hybrid PC/console, with the openness of the PC and much of the ease of use of consoles, the rivals are more or less generic PC's with all the problems that come with that, that's fine for PC gamers or gamers that are fine with tinkering, but most gamers just want to pick up and play, and the Deck is the closes we've got to that in PC form. Price and battery life is another important factor, the original Deck was pushing to the limits on battery life for me, the OLED Deck is giving a good balance of performance and battery life and as much as I would love to have more performance on these portable devices, battery life comes first and historically speaking, weaker portable gaming devices have done better than more powerful ones over the decades because of battery life and I think Valve made the right decision to not boost the specs just yet, but I do think Valve will need a Deck 2 by 2025 or a major price cut or they could get left behind by rivals. The irony is, the Legion Go and ROG would be more appealing if they had SteamOS on it, which says a lot with how good SteamOS is that a lot of us prefer to use a Linux OS to run Windows games. As for anti cheats, a lot more of those games work on the Deck then they did 2 years ago, but there are still many that don't, but honestly, competitive gaming is the last kind of game I would want to play on a portable device so it's not a big deal for me, especially because I game differently on portable devices then on my gaming rig, where it's pick up and go, play a bit and so on, whereas on my gaming rig, it's more like maxing everything out, not wanting to be disturbed by others and putting more focus in what I'm doing, I suspect it's the same for many others that it's more lighter like gaming on portable devices compared to what I would play on my gaming rig, and I don't mean in how demanding a game is, but the style of game and for me, the Steam Deck hits the right balance. Also, I think with the current battery tech that we've got, 15 watts is a better match for battery life, 20 watts if there's a bigger battery, beyond that and I don't see the point unless it's being used in dock mode, which kinda defeats the purpose of why I would want to buy any of these devices, Valve got it right by targeting 15 watts, if battery tech gets better or cheaper, that could change to 20 watts or more, but until then, 15 watts clearly wins out, especially if the hardware targets that, probably why the Deck gets more performance at 15 watts over the more powerful rivals, which means those rivals are more powerful if you force more juice into them, which is a big no no to me, as it becomes far less portable.
In my personal opinionas a man and a family man I think you have way too much time on your hands brother you need to put the games down and start focusing on your life aswell as the Lord Jesus because Jesus is our salvation. And it says in the Bible in the end of times, men will be lovers of themselves. Don’t you realize this by now brother do you need to not idolize anybody or yourself? The only person you’re supposed to look up to is the Lord our God. God bless you brother I hope you do the right thing and stop with these video games and socail media
Lol, thumbs down. 5x ads in a row... oh i use this with deck, carry it in y, 0ower it with z and so on. You are not a honest reviewer, your a sales dealer....
I remember thinking I’d never get a steam deck after your first deck video 😂 so many hours logged on my limited edition oled deck 🤣🤣🤣. Been really enjoying cyberpunk
imagine waiting almost a year for the lcd pre order lol y’all got it easy now 😭
@@sharpiesharpie8356 yooo we do!
I don’t play any games that require anti cheat, so Steam Deck wins out for me. Steam OS (and steam input controls) is just so convenient. I ordered my oled 1TB on Christmas Eve. Can’t wait to get it in time for my birthday in January 😊
Only online games I play have been updated for easy anti cheat on Linux/steam deck like for instance, battlebit remastered, Halo MCC, Elden Ring, and dead by daylight. Many others support easy anti cheat but not everyone unfortunately.
Still the main games I play online work great so easy steam deck for me. And that battery life though
btw even anticheats is supported on steam deck, companies only need to press a switch, it isn't even hard
Happy birthday. Have you gotten your Steam Deck yet? If so, what are your thoughts?
@@411sponge72 thanks! I love it! I actually had a problem with the first one they sent and had to send it for RMA, but I have my replacement unit now, too, and it’s pretty sweet. The battery life is amazing
how long did it take for your steam deck oled to arrive? I just ordered one so I'm curious as to how long it will take
I think the Steam Deck, particularly the OLED model is the better device overall. However since a few popular multiplayer games don't work on Linux via Proton like COD, Destiny 2, or Fortnite, (yet) if your potential enjoyment hinges upon your ability to play these games, you'll probably be happier with the Ally or Legion Go.
Also if you're the type to get anxiety about not having the "best" or "fastest" available. The Ally and Legion Go are technically faster than the Steam Deck, and that might alleviate some of that anxiety. For some folks though nothing short of full-powered desktop performance will suffice, and these people probably shouldn't get a handheld at all. The Z1 Extreme chip in these devices can be pushed further than the Deck's custom SOC, but it's to the detriment of everything else. The Ally can run at 30 watts, but you'll get 40 minutes of battery life and you'll cook your SD card in the process.
The Deck is an extremely balanced device in comparison. Everything about it feels like a careful and deliberate decision was made, from it's SOC performance and TDP, to it's screen resolution, button placement, shape, size, etc.
As much as I love the Legion Go I prefer the simplicity of steam os don’t get me wrong I like tinkering around on windows but after a busy day I just want to jump straight into a game and I haven’t got to worry searching around for drivers/updates the steam deck oled just has it all with one press of a button. I think that’s why I tend to stick with a console like experiences it just works out of the box.
With Steam Big Picture on Windows, you can achieve as close to that console-like experience. From waking the Legion Go from hibernation and swiping up from the Lock Screen without entering a passcode, and jumping right into a game, it takes me about 10-15 seconds to be ready. Updating drivers and bios is a once in a while chore, but the day to day flow of gameplay with Steam Big Picture, is as close to a console setup as I can find.
And for me, it’s worth it so I can play the games that I couldn’t play without a dual boot of windows on the Steam Dec.
I got my Legion Go to boot in 5 seconds flat once I got rid of the windows bloat and optimise it to the way I like it but even with it set to balance/efficiency the battery tends not to last that long and I feel like I’m always checking the battery every 30 mins or so. I really like the device but I like the display/battery more on the oled. I would say the legion go is the best windows portable device for gaming on the go other than the steam deck.
Playnite launcher makes your LeGo feel like a console
i got the steam deck oled 1tb limited edition too and i cant put it down this thing is amazing and the colors really pop, it has now completely replaced my ps5 and xbox series x since i got it lol
Best video on the subject so far, well done and thank you.
I think the SD OLED strikes the best balance between performance, battery life and ergonomics. For now.
A custom Windows release for handhelds could really shake things up. It looks clear Windows isn't getting the best out of that z1 extreme chip.
That’s the one I went for. So excited 😆
The LeGO just had a few major jumps in performance with firmware updates, so it will get better. I haven't had any issues performance wise so far :D
Thanks for having us on! VITURE One really is a must for the serious on-the-go gamer - we're so glad you enjoy using them with the Steam Deck. 😎
Send one my way! 😂 worth a try. “Closed mouth don’t get fed”
I'll definitely take a unit for free! I'd love to try it but worried it'll be a waste of money 😔
The only reason why I didn't buy the Limited Steam Deck Oled was because of the Etched Display, I really love the way the Limited SD Oled looks, but I don't like the etched display on my 512gb LCD SD, really wish they gave an option to choose. I went with the 512gb OLED instead and will upgrade the SSD. Glossy looks so much better and get lets fingerprints and it's much easier to clean.
You could have just added an aftermarket screen protector to it and the etching basically goes away. I use the thing in my car while on lunch so, idk.
Do u think it was worth upgrading from the LCD. Iv been thinking about it for ages. U will be the deciding vote.
@@Kamzzmixeditit is 100% worth it in my whole opinion.
The OLED display will be a night and day difference, like seriously, it will be like you are playing video games again and feel "next Gen"
The battery life of the OLED is so so much better, at 90hz/fps it gives me 1-1:30 more compared to the LCD and locked at 60hz/fps it doubles the battery life compared to the LCD.
The trackpad haptics are way better too, so much refine and it will be a quality of life improvement.
And, the most important things that I haven't seen anyone mention, is how smooth the OS and the UI feels. I know that the display is 90hz, but it doesn't have to do with it, the OS itself just feels really smooth without any stuttering or frame drops like I get on my LCD Deck.
And, the increased screen size is noticeable too and much much better than the LCD screen size.
Hope it helps, I say it's 100% worth upgrading.
I recommend you get the 512gb version, and upgrade to a 2tb SSD for $150 and you will end up paying the same price of the 1tb SSD, also, the glossy is just so much better than the etched version, and, you could always get an etched screen protector for the glossy SD.
Dang, you really think the etched glass is not as good as the glossy? I mean, I guess I'll have a screen protector on either way, but no I'm confused haha.
@Ditronus. I've heard both sides, though nobody has compared them side by side. For the most part, what I understand is that the glossy seems preferred. I guess my next goal is to look for a video comparing it 😆 I've already got the 512gb, I didn't know about the different screens pre purchase. I digress, as he said, you can always get an etched screen protector.
I remember saying the rog ally was going to be the best thing that ever happened for the deck. This is the innovation you get with strong competition.
I'm currently deciding which device to get and after looking into the subject for a few days now, I think that the Steam Deck is the better choice for me. If I want full power, I'll use my gaming PC and if I want to play on the move, I'd rather use a device where I can really be mobile for longer. The Steam Deck clearly has more battery. I don't want to play from plug socket to plug socket. :D
But I'm happy that there are so many devices out there, that stimulates the market and, in the best case, keeps giving us new and better versions at good prices. :)
Rog plays anything no limits , sorry valve.
Lmao windows user
5TB ROG Ally owner here. I'm just happy we have a lot of choices!
5tb how? I have 2 tb ssd and 1.5 memory card? 3.5 tb on my legion go
@@enriquecarvajal4588he probably did the 2280 ssd mod/adapter for the ally.
@@enriquecarvajal4588Here I am contemplating upgrading to 2 tb, possibly 4... thinking 4 is overkill... Then there was 5!
I'm probably going 2 tb, no adapter and use the original 500 gb into an enclosure usb stick.
@@BK-sx5psI’m doing a 4tb 2280 and I could do the 1tb microsd for 5tb total but honestly 4tb has been a little overkill lol
I think for ease of everything 2tb is more than enough. It’s not hard to do the 2280 mod but for me I’d rather use that 4tb on my desktop.
@@SmartFool24 Yeah just trying to never use the mircro sd slot, other than some sd cards with movies/shows.
The reason for the LCD deck having better frame rates when set to 10W vs the OLED model is that the TDP setting is not setting total system power, and it doesn't really match for the two consoles. If you match actual power used, the OLED always comes out on top. To match it you have to look at the total power used in the performance overlay and experiment until they match (or as close as you can get).
Someone explained there is no standard way to measure TDP. When you set the TDP to 15 watts the cpu and gpu is spiking up and down hopefully averaging 15 tdp. For example for a few ms the Apu used 5 watts then uses 25 watts trying to average 15 TDP. The gpu wattage spikes more than the cpu.
The reason the LCD model gets a little better performance at low TDP is because the GPU is allowed to spike to higher watt for split second more than the OLED model. The OLED model limits more how much the GPU can spike. This means the OLED Model measures 10 TDP more accurately than the LCD model.
With the higher gpu wattage spites at 5 TDP and 10 TDP the APU can't get low enough to "repay" back to the average. Thus the average ends up being a watt or two higher than the setting on the LCD model. The OLED model apu is more efficient and cooler increasing the battery life.
Steam deck OLED is the Best. The other ones are cool too, but whatever anyone chooses , it’s VALVE that everyone gets, valve is Pro Customer, you don’t see that anymore.
Great video. My go to is the Legion Go, I have a Steam Deck I no longer use because of the limitations of Linux. Windows has it's issues on handhelds, but it's work it for compatibility.
That 10 watt performance is pretty insane
Team Gaming!! XD I am still rocking with my LCD Deck for now, but slowly adding extra funds to my steam wallet so I can make the upgrade. Unless of course I try to find a limited edition being sold elsewhere ;-;
Lenovo legion go and Rog ally is a rent n car payment, Steam Deck and Logitech g cloud is fine for me
16:04 regrading hdr support its a linix issue and work have been going around and have progressed close to finish. Kde(steam decks desktop mode) will support hdr(properly) with plasma 6 update, which will go live around the end of February.
I got my ally and waited a week befofe i took a deep breath and used an sd card and its broken lmao. Bu5 good new is its just the reader but i dont care. Sd was extremely slow transferring when i was on stead deck so ill jus5 grab a big ssd and be fine
The level of product promotion is insane
Been remote playing from my PS5 and PC for a few months on my LCD Steam Deck (have a well set up ethernet network around my house so it works flawlessly) and I love doing it so much I've ordered the OLED Deck,
Just bought the OLED. If I wanna play with the best performance and graphics I take my gaming PC. But if I want to play in the bed or on the go the Steam Deck is way ahead of the other two because of the better power usage 🤷♂️
If I hadn't my gaming PC I would have picked the ROG for sure.
Exactly. I've got a gaming PC and gaming laptop that blow the ROG out of the water. If I want higher performance, I have options. If I want a mobile handheld, I have the best one with SD OLED. Just the comparison showing these systems running at 15w should show you all you need to know. And the 50% battery life that comes with that.
👏 👏 👏 thanks Valve!
Playing the heck out of my Deck Oled and already got PS1, 2 and 3 emulation running, remote play, some Steam games and PSP on it. This is an amazing device and the battery lasts long and the customization is amazing.
it's been a great year for handhelds and honestly could be the future of "mobile" gaming instead of gaming laptops.
also, UI experience/software personally is superior to new hardware and Valve still proving that with steamOS 2 years on but really glad to see improvements in ally and go
The deal breaker for me for the Viture was the proprietary connector. If they had an adapter to use other usb c dp alt cables then that would have been ok but I went with the Xreal instead.
I love my viture but I also ordered them a long time ago in early kickstarter.
If you are a console person the Steam Deck is the only choice. I have chosen the windows path myself and don’t mind playing with settings and working with Windows. For those who have not played games on a pc think hard before you choose.
Great comparison! The HDR issue with Spiderman 2 isn't unique to the Steam Deck, the same problem exists on HDR panels on PC. The HDR color space isn't done correctly.
Team gaming indeed. I'm so glad to hear people say they prefer the symmetrical sticks on the 'Deck than and Steam OS are the factors that are driving me to save for an OLED now over the others. The majority of my Steam titles _aren't_ AAA games, so the 'Deck will probably last me into 2026.
thank you for a very informative video. I am 62 years old Switch oed owner and happy with that, mostly because Company of heroes came to it and it really is art itself. Steam Deck suppouslly can play all 3 Company of heroes and many more.
Valve is Telling you that the boe etched glass panel is better than the Samsung glossy that’s why there is no option
Nah Boe panel has had more dead pixels than the samsung panels. They both look gorgeous though.
Man this is just a SD copping and heavy product promotion video..
Should I return my Ally to get the SD OLED? 🤔
Team Gaming (Undecided leaning toward the Steam Deck)
I think I’m leaning more towards rog ally. I’m only using it as a switch replacement so it’ll be dock most its life. I play mostly steam games roguelite and party games. Bluetooth 5.3 is very compelling on the deck oled because I like party games of 6 players. But I can get rog ally for $400 versus $500 for deck oled.
Is this a sponsored video?
Thanks for all the info! So there aren’t any handhelds more powerful than Ally and Go huh? I love removable controllers but dislike how big the Go is
I just oredered the 1TB Oled after selling my 64g LCD to a friend after about 6 months of use. I was overall very happy with the LCD but the better screen, battery life, and performance of the Oled was very appealing. I use my Deck mainly in handheld with occasional docking to a 50" tv. I have also been using my Xreal Air glasses with the Deck and it's a very good pairing imo.
Im glad there is healthy competition now with these handhelds so us as gamers can reap the benefits!
I wonder why the lcd does so much better at 10w.
It has been demonstrated that the LCD version doesn't really lock TDP at 10 W while the OLED does. So it's like LCD can jump higher where needed, while OLED really stay at 10.
Great video! Regarding the TDP differences at 10w between the Steam Deck LCD and OLED, the Phawx youtube channel did a great breakdown explaining how the reported TDPs between LCD and OLED Deck are slightly different (10w TDP on OLED is actually using less energy than 10w TDP on LCD and is probably more equivalent to 11w). The OLED 6nm APU is more efficient at all TDP ranges.
That’s fantastic feedback! Thanks and Merry Christmas!
Very high quality of information and very little filler! Really stands out man.
Completely agreed about the OLED Deck at 10-15W, I love mine. It feels the most console-like and is an amazing portable companion with the etched glass. I can grab a few minutes of a game anywhere. For people without a gaming PC or who play games with rootkit kernel anticheat or who prefer to rent games, Ally is a great choice with VRR.
Actually the decision is so much simpler : wanna play Mario or a completely stripped down version of a AAA game? Get the Steam Deck. Wanna play a AAA game properly? Get the Ally! Simple as that really. I saw the Steam Deck and apart from very very VERY few games the graphics is....meh to say the least. You can see the limitations of a really old chip . Why would I wanna do that? Battery? Screw that, I already have a 20A powerbank , I just hook it up to my Ally, it has bypass charging and I can play on the go. Also most of the times I'm playing at home so the original charger is nearby.
The single real advantage now is the OLED display, even the best LCD display cannot match the contrast and color saturation of an OLED, if my Ally had an OLED display it would have been a 10/10 device.
This video is a nice analysis of the 3, but fails to talk about a huge advantage the Ally has vs the competition: VRR. I had a Steam Deck LCD for a year and it was good for the most part. Never liked playing higher demanding games at 30-45fps and low settings. Bought an Z1 Extreme Ally a few weeks ago and VRR is SUCH A HUGE UPGRADE. Even the OLED Deck will not keep any slightly demanding games at 90hz at a constant 90fps. And after using the Ally's 120hz (90hz will be so close in perceived fluidity), the 60fps mark is nauseating of the LCD Deck. I don't care about HDR nor battery life, so the Ally scores it big for me. And I can run games at medium to high settings at either 21w or 24w to get the most out of it.
The reason the LCD deck comes out on top regularly is because Valve doesn't actually limit the power of the APU when you define a custom TDP, the Phawx discovered this some time ago. Even the new deck isn't quite running with a hard wattage limit of 15w at the 15w TDP setting, it'll typically pull closer to 18w in most cases where the old deck pulled close to 21w. With the deck LCD running at 15w and the Ally running at 15w the Ally has 15 minutes (~20%) more battery life than the deck despite them having the same battery capacity, so if the new deck didn't have a 50wh battery then it'd likely be dead even for vitality with the Ally. The Ally likely does hard limit the APU to whatever the power setting is, that's the only reasonable way to actually explain how the deck performs better in lower TDP scenarios because the Ally's CPU cores can be parked and having more CUs on the GPU just means they will run at marginally lower clocks and deliver significantly better performance overall in all cases, and that's before even considering lithography advantages.
Awesome video. I got a steam deck lcd when they dropped and then got the ROG ally shortly after it dropped . My pc I built uses a 7800x3D and 4090 so I love the extra performance the ally gives but the sleep/resume function of the deck keeps me using it almost as much as the ally . Trying to get my wife to migrate from the switch to the deck so I can maybe upgrade when newer more powerful handhelds come out without feeling like I need to sell my Og steam deck with the kill switch
Steam oled here. Best choice for me, don’t need the most powerful as I only play older/roguelike/emulation games on mine. The epic stuff that requires power rather play on my 4090 rig in ultrawide.
man, i Thought this was a honest review but it's just a commercial of different products.
Using the oled switch for so long, I couldn't ever go back to anything less than Oled when gaming in handheld. SteamDeck is the clear winner!
Great video. I’m still on the fence on which system I want. Deck oled is what I think I want. The clunkyness of windows on a portable isn’t for me. But the Legion Go is compelling with that large screen.
i only bought the 512gb oled because the etched glass was going to annoy me... i mean i am the type of guy that notices a single dead pixel on a densely packed pixel on a screen.... so hearing about the horrors of the etched glass was a quick decision for me to get the 512gb model and i had to buy another case for a more smaller portable use....
Team Gaming
I would prefer medium setting n up benchmark...not trying to spend 600-700 buck to play on low
What is up with this audio? Keeps changing volume and dropping a channel. Am i going crazy?
Out of all the reviews I've watched this is my favorite one. Very detailed and helpful for us new to the steam deck oled owners.
power is nice but power is worthless without decent battery life. Valve remains king.
As far as I know, VibrantDeck is broken after update 3.5, so you can't further crank up the saturation that way.
I still trying to decide between the ROG Ally vs the Deck oled. The only thing that is pushing me to the ROG ally is the anti cheat.
Such a detailed video, more so than the 10 or so others i watched today. And yea i watched until the end.
Really stuck in deciding which one to get. I like the better performance, native game pass setup, and button/stick layout of the Ally. I like the oled, better battery, and UI of the deck. I'm at a loss here. Kinda comes down to how close to native-y i can get gamepass on the steam deck and/or how well either of them run games (fps/resolution/battery) at medium settings.
Heard a lot of people say Ally is less favored since its main strength is the better performance at high draws, but that leaves you with sub 1 hour battery; yet, ive heard others say they can get decent mileage of battery at medium settings and stuf no problem. No idea. Might buy em both to try them out (although i kinda dread running comparison tests and setting them up) to make a decision. Might just opt out of both since i have a lenovo legion gaming laptop anyways that doesnt get much action.
Thanks for the video
It sounds like the Ally Z1 Ex may be the best 1st test drive for you, given your preference for its layout and the much easier return process with Best Buy. It sounds like you’re really after GP local play and Steam Big Picture will help with the console feel as well. But if you’re not completely in love with it in the 1st week, you know what to do ;). I think that would be a less stressful approach vs buying them both up at once.
Remote play your gaming laptop Its fantastic. I’m currently doing that with my g14 hooked up to ethernet as your right, around the holidays, and outside school, my laptop barely gets preferred
@@sonicandroxas how does your remote play setup work? What kinds of games are you playing? Thanks
@@MrTekSuggest thanks for your help. Think I'll do that. The one thing that does make me lean more steam deck is the console-like out of the box feel. I hear some people dealing with errors and jankiness with the Ally since it's windows.
@@Ditronus. so one can use either two clients from the pc, Nvidias game steam in Nvidia Geforce experience or sunshine, setting up is either a installation (sunshine) or turning on in the setting (moonlight) after that, i just easily install moonlight specifically on the steam deck by with help from various youtube tutorials and I’m good to go. With ethernet and a modern router, latency is very much manageable and image quality is close to native. Then there’s PlayStation remote play one can do from ps4/5 to the steam deck. Id recommend a yt tutorial for both remote processes. Currently I’m playing starfield
Great video man! Team Gaming for sure. 👍🏻
I myself am just getting into pc handhelds. Just got back into gaming a year ago and in been rolling with a Switch OLED and Xbox X, but the idea of playing AAA games on the go is huge, so right now I’m looking at all 3. I think the Steam Deck OLED might be the best for me to get my feet wet since the Ally and Legion Go seem to be more complicated to get up and running.
Just look at what games you want to play and do a reality check first. The Deck is running Linux, and although compatibility is very good, not every game runs. I would say 70% of games on Steam "just work". Another 20% work fine with some tweaking. The remaining 10% doesn't work... yet. Proton is ever evolving, and what doesn't work today may very well work tomorrow. Still, if your potential enjoyment hinges upon whether you can or cannot play one or more of these incompatible games, some of which are popular multiplayer titles like Fortnite or Destiny 2, then it won't matter how good it is. You will be disappointed. It will be like owning a Playstation when all you really want to do is play Halo.
If doing some updates on a Windows device is complicated then ...the issue is on your side.
@@Fr3e3 some people just don't wanna deal with the clunkyness of windows
Does anyone know if Manhunt or Splinter Cell Conviction works on the Rog Ally?
When the rog ally 2 and steam deck 2 come out it’s gonna be a WHOLE NOTHA LEVEL
great screen because its oled, optimized pc board, but still the same low powered chipset and a new problem which is noisy grounded headphone jack.
after having all 3 i just cant seem to prefer the deck or legion go over the Ally, gonna get a refund soon on my legion go from bestbuy, its just too clunky and uncomfortable for me while giving me identical performance as my Ally
Team gaming! What a great review! Thank you for a in depth review of these hand helds!
AMD Sephiroth maybe the coolest APU name ever.
I really want the Legion go but these results are disappointing
Bro how did you get them fire screen savers on your deck???
I’m a wait to get a handheld I literally can’t choose one
I dont own a ps4, Ill mostly be playing plugged in on the couch. For that reason it sounds like the vote is to go with the rog ally. I was considering the steam deck but it sounds like Ill have sub par frames and game availability and I dont want to do that. Thoughts?
The Rog ally for you is the right choice if you are planning to play it plugged most of the time. Steam deck is more for people that travel more & uses it to play less demanding retro games.
Great stuff; narration, vid quality top notch. Subbed.
more competition is really good for consumers
Your videos are always well informed.
Just wait when steamdeck got VRR
Can you imagine how bad the pixels are on those 1080p glasses? Avoid them without question.
Believe it or not, the quality is pretty good. 100% of the people Ive let try them have been stunned by how good it is
Team gaming STEAM DECK OLED
Most of the differences are Linux Vs windows
How do you set tdp levels in deck?
4deck is on the ally and the go 😂
was going to grab an ally but that battery life is horrendous to be a portable unit
It literally is the main reason. Also no real sleep function like the SD. These little things matter a lot, just hitting the power button and resuming the game later like SD.
I ultimately picked Rog because I'm hoping there'll be some sort of community battery mod (better, more official than what's on Reddit). Also going to assume some unnamed hero will perfect a linux port for Rog...
Getting a 27k mAh battery bank is a game changer.
@@chrisdsx6839 yeah..but totally defeats the portability.Not sure I want a device that I need to carry a secondary device around.
@strahd462 not really, still makes it way smaller than anything else your going to be able to game on even with the battery pack. Your never going to use this walking around. So just having an additional battery back with it really makes no different. It's not like it fits in your pocket either.
@@tombush I have an OLED steam deck...no extra battery required.Yet another reason to pass on the Ally.
very excited for an rog ally 2, make it black, an 8 inch screen, and better battery and its perfect.
Steam deck oled is the way
this is so tough. im gonna be a dad later this year and i need to get away / unchained from my desk. at the same time, i want the performance of the ally. I bought a steamdeck OLED which should be here tomorrow but im just not sure about my choice. im sure id use it plugged in often, but i also see myself forgetting to plug it in and also being irked when the ally's battery dies on me. the need to be tethered to power seems to defeat the purpose of a handheld. i also worry that the turbo 30W mode of the ally would hurt the battery if you just use it that way all the time. i wish the steamdeck had a turbo 30W mode where it kicked butt. just not sure i made the right choice here.
how long did it take for ur steam deck oled to arrive? just wondering cause I bought one so im curious how long itll take
@@bobtheraccoon318 took about 3 and a half weeks. enough time for me to consider the ally and then get my steam deck and be happy with it. the ally only works better than the SD when its plugged in, which makes the ally either a good handheld, or a shitty laptop depending on how you view it. the SD also has extreme battery life. youll be happy with your purchase. i havent used the track pads too much but they also dont get in the way. the screen is great, fun device.
Team gaming....team steamdeck 1st....team ally 2nd
Happy NY broddie
I will generally play it in my bed , on the toilet and plan on docking it and hooking it up to my tv for a console like experience, what’s the best one for me ? Ally or deck ? Price isn’t a big deal , I would like to add though I have most of my games on steam but I know I can run steam on the ally
I'm guessing you made a decision?
@@ThorGodofThunder420 deck , I don’t trust the rog from potentially cooking my SD card
@@Neptune8 I was planning on getting a ROG but then I heard issues of heating and SD cards being almost broken from the heating issues so I bought a steam deck oled
Such a great video.
I love competition and choices.
Steam Deck is for those who actually want the most "consolized" PC experience. If so, you should go at once with the Deck.
When it comes to the Windows OS handhelds, I will go with ROG Ally for these reasons:
1. (And most important) VRR. When one plays on a handheld like this, where your frame rates are dropping and lifting, VRR makes your session of gaming smooth and easier. You dont have to be toggling Hz of the display and more. Leave the fps uncapped and play.
2. Weigh and size: Legion Go is way more bigger and its weight is too much for a handheld in my opinion.
3. Smaller screen: a 1600p big screen will make 720p, 900p and even some 1080p games blurry due to pixel density.
4. Armoury Crate is better as of now.
5. GO speakers are upside. Really weird decision.
At the end, choose the one you prefer the most and let's game!
Oled needs to crank up brightness to the max and uses HDR or it'll lose all the details because of black crush.
I’m all about Steam Deck OLED and Nintendo Switch OLED, myself. Use both handhelds daily.
Is this an AI channel?
Not an AI channel, I write and record each and every word. Thanks for dropping by and enjoy the holidays.
Where did you find Vibrant-deck ? I can’t find it any longer.
I couldnt find it on my oled either, figured they removed it for the oleds..
@@eleven9286valve added their own vibrancy slider in the settings
it was limited edition for US and Canada only, but also its sold out, it was a limited run.
I've had both. Your not dealing with a ton of performance on these handhelds. So it has to be the ally all the way for me. I like to do alot of emulation and the steam deck does struggle alot in ways the ally doesn't, especially with Wii u/switch games
I think where Valve wins out with the Steam Deck is the entire package and quality control, basically, the Steam Deck feels like a hybrid PC/console, with the openness of the PC and much of the ease of use of consoles, the rivals are more or less generic PC's with all the problems that come with that, that's fine for PC gamers or gamers that are fine with tinkering, but most gamers just want to pick up and play, and the Deck is the closes we've got to that in PC form.
Price and battery life is another important factor, the original Deck was pushing to the limits on battery life for me, the OLED Deck is giving a good balance of performance and battery life and as much as I would love to have more performance on these portable devices, battery life comes first and historically speaking, weaker portable gaming devices have done better than more powerful ones over the decades because of battery life and I think Valve made the right decision to not boost the specs just yet, but I do think Valve will need a Deck 2 by 2025 or a major price cut or they could get left behind by rivals.
The irony is, the Legion Go and ROG would be more appealing if they had SteamOS on it, which says a lot with how good SteamOS is that a lot of us prefer to use a Linux OS to run Windows games.
As for anti cheats, a lot more of those games work on the Deck then they did 2 years ago, but there are still many that don't, but honestly, competitive gaming is the last kind of game I would want to play on a portable device so it's not a big deal for me, especially because I game differently on portable devices then on my gaming rig, where it's pick up and go, play a bit and so on, whereas on my gaming rig, it's more like maxing everything out, not wanting to be disturbed by others and putting more focus in what I'm doing, I suspect it's the same for many others that it's more lighter like gaming on portable devices compared to what I would play on my gaming rig, and I don't mean in how demanding a game is, but the style of game and for me, the Steam Deck hits the right balance.
Also, I think with the current battery tech that we've got, 15 watts is a better match for battery life, 20 watts if there's a bigger battery, beyond that and I don't see the point unless it's being used in dock mode, which kinda defeats the purpose of why I would want to buy any of these devices, Valve got it right by targeting 15 watts, if battery tech gets better or cheaper, that could change to 20 watts or more, but until then, 15 watts clearly wins out, especially if the hardware targets that, probably why the Deck gets more performance at 15 watts over the more powerful rivals, which means those rivals are more powerful if you force more juice into them, which is a big no no to me, as it becomes far less portable.
Wow....congrats bro. It takes skill to write that much without actually saying anything useful.
I wish every hand held had VRR
Asus ROG Ally for me is the best choice
The thing about going back to Steam Deck, is now you notice what VRR does because of the lack of it.
Yup
@@mr.grumps3544 he talking about variable refresh rate not about vr headsets bro god damn😂
Wow! Stop this greedy dude, I've never seen more ads with such a tiny amount of actual infirmarion. Dislike
Nah. The oled deck is just like the switch oled. Still performs below average and way too limited for PC gaming compared to it's peers.
Jest got tane steamdeck oled, thought about the Ally but battery life is miserable on it
In my personal opinionas a man and a family man I think you have way too much time on your hands brother you need to put the games down and start focusing on your life aswell as the Lord Jesus because Jesus is our salvation. And it says in the Bible in the end of times, men will be lovers of themselves. Don’t you realize this by now brother do you need to not idolize anybody or yourself? The only person you’re supposed to look up to is the Lord our God. God bless you brother I hope you do the right thing and stop with these video games and socail media
bro go to church don't go to gaming channels
This whole vid is an ad
Lol, thumbs down. 5x ads in a row... oh i use this with deck, carry it in y, 0ower it with z and so on. You are not a honest reviewer, your a sales dealer....