@@kennysdead500 i don't disagree with that in the slightest and it seems weird that stammer is even being brought up since he literally just got to nashville and it's not even halfway into the year yet
Been a fan for 45 years and this has been one of the most difficult stretches I can recall - in part because of the expectations coming off last year. They need to address the lack of physicality and forecheck intensity of this team. To me this has been a fundamental identity question for a few years. Two ways we could look at this… 1. Physicality: Look at the hits per game for each player and compare to league average for their position and minutes played. 2. Forecheck: Look at average time in offensive zone 5v5 and compare to league average and top teams. My hypothesis is that they are well below average here. And this is about a mentality, effort…AND the players they have on the roster. Look at the last 10 years of Stanley Cup Winners: 2024: Florida Panthers, Coach Paul Maurice 2023: Vegas Golden Knights, Coach Bruce Cassidy 2022: Colorado Avalanche, Coach Jared Bednar 2021: Tampa Bay Lightning, Coach Jon Cooper 2020: Tampa Bay Lightning, Coach Jon Cooper 2019: St. Louis Blues, Coach Craig Berube 2018: Washington Capitals, Coach Barry Trotz 2017: Pittsburgh Penguins, Coach Mike Sullivan 2016: Pittsburgh Penguins, Coach Mike Sullivan 2015: Chicago Blackhawks, Coach Joel Quenneville 2014: Los Angeles Kings, Coach Darryl Sutter I suspect these teams were near the very top on these stats. Florida of course is the prototype for this. There are other factors of course (great goaltending) but this is what it takes to win at the highest level. So, that leads me to the unfortunate conclusion that they do need to make some pretty fundamental changes.
The NYR, given their slump, have gone to IMO Stanley Cup contenders to at best this season a wildcard team. I don’t want to discount the possibility the MIR will go on the playoff run but they don’t look remotely close to the Panthers of 2022-23.
Mika Zibanejad + 2 first round picks for Stamkos, LOL?. Where did the 2 first round picks come from? 2 1sts? Whoa there Gretzky! Adam Fox and Kris Krieder to Vancouver for JT Miller and Filip Hronek.
Excellent insight John...you are an analyst, coach, agent and sometimes I swear...you got the devil in your hands..lol. Kaapo Kakko might not 'accidentally' score if he finds a new home. Keep up the great work dood...miss the hot take hotel lives!
If Miller can’t sort out whatever had him on leave then I could see him and Zibanejad being swapped. But you’re right, Stamkos for Zibanejad makes more sense.
He's working with an internal cap. It's a money problem. Sabres have great talent but they need support players. Spend the money and bring in depth. So much talent there.
Zibanejad is a totally spent force.No GM in his right mind will pay/trade top dollar to get this shell of a player Furthermore his fragile mindset is completely off putting for any team's locker room He is a fair weather player Is he happy being a millstone around the Rangers neck until his contract expires with all the flak he will receive from a famously hostile crowd?
he will eventually get booed every time he touches a puck if the season continues as it is; he will get fed up with it and do anything to get traded away, i think both parties want to part ways the problem is finding ANY team to take him, that is why he is stuck at NYR still.
Team lacks speed and hustle. The former is a roster construction issue, while the latter is psychological, likely caused by guys who are too comfortable and chummy.
As a Nashville Predators fan. Stamkos has been brutal for us this season, so far. To be real, the whole team has lol. We’re finally just starting to see some chemistry between stamkos, forsberg, and marchy. I could see this happening. But man, I really don’t want it to
Any GM who even considers a trade for Zibanejad should have his head examined. Mika's performance this season has been substandard for fourth line AHL centers, let alone elite NHL 1Cs. He also has a full NMC and he's not gonna waive it so he's not getting traded.
@@HotTakeHockey Zibanejad is 31, soft and disinterested in playing hockey. He went from 91 pts to 72 pts last yr to being on pace for 57 points this yr. He's a rapidly declining asset and at 8.5 mill for another 5 years makes him worth very little and any GM that trades two 1sts for him should be fired and banned from the league.
I can see Perunovich and Saad being available from stl. Stl doesnt have the cap space for retention. Lindgren also wouldn't make much sense for Stl since we just got Fowler. I could see the Blues being interested in Chytil though, as we need a center more then anything
They wouldn’t trade Krappo Kappo in a deal for Eichel lol ha ha. Bust boy, he was an untouchable. they could’ve traded Alexis, La feminine and cackle crackle and the first round pick for Eichel and win a cup, but now they got bums signed.
Can't speak for other teams do. RW does not have a player of value to others that makes it possible to complete larger trades. All of this is on S.Y's head as he does stupid things like signing expensive contracts for subpar players, or sending players away with bonuses (e.i wallman). When it comes to using picks, S.Y is completely handicapped (locked in his mind) to use picks for an offensive action. Cat & Larks are two players that could be used in future trades, as neither of them is part of the future core (time-wise), that core only consists of MO/Edv & Lukas today. A lot is in the RW pipe if most turn out well, otherwise through upcoming drafts or deals.
And your on the right track with the D but rangers gotta trade Ryan the plug lindgren and the spit master kandre miller they both suck and are soft can’t play D anymore and useless offensively
You should throw trocheck in these mock trades theres no reason rangers should keep him hes been awful lafreniere is only guy on that line whos been okay recently including panarin whos also been bad if im drury im asking panarin wherr he wants to go and if hell waive NMC
This team needs to get bigger, faster and most importantly tougher. Too many figure skaters and not enough good old south north bangers.
Exactly!!! No more finesse players !!!
In fairness, Stamkos has been brutal 5 on 5 for a while now. Great career, HoFer for sure... but he's been a Kucherov merchant for some time now.
although in fairness kuch wouldn't be the player he is if it wasn't for him being alongside him for 11 years (9 years as a linemate)
@@ethanparker7900 The Rangers need Kucherov type players, and not Stamkos
@@kennysdead500 i don't disagree with that in the slightest and it seems weird that stammer is even being brought up since he literally just got to nashville and it's not even halfway into the year yet
Been a fan for 45 years and this has been one of the most difficult stretches I can recall - in part because of the expectations coming off last year. They need to address the lack of physicality and forecheck intensity of this team. To me this has been a fundamental identity question for a few years. Two ways we could look at this…
1. Physicality: Look at the hits per game for each player and compare to league average for their position and minutes played.
2. Forecheck: Look at average time in offensive zone 5v5 and compare to league average and top teams.
My hypothesis is that they are well below average here. And this is about a mentality, effort…AND the players they have on the roster.
Look at the last 10 years of Stanley Cup Winners:
2024: Florida Panthers, Coach Paul Maurice
2023: Vegas Golden Knights, Coach Bruce Cassidy
2022: Colorado Avalanche, Coach Jared Bednar
2021: Tampa Bay Lightning, Coach Jon Cooper
2020: Tampa Bay Lightning, Coach Jon Cooper
2019: St. Louis Blues, Coach Craig Berube
2018: Washington Capitals, Coach Barry Trotz
2017: Pittsburgh Penguins, Coach Mike Sullivan
2016: Pittsburgh Penguins, Coach Mike Sullivan
2015: Chicago Blackhawks, Coach Joel Quenneville
2014: Los Angeles Kings, Coach Darryl Sutter
I suspect these teams were near the very top on these stats. Florida of course is the prototype for this. There are other factors of course (great goaltending) but this is what it takes to win at the highest level.
So, that leads me to the unfortunate conclusion that they do need to make some pretty fundamental changes.
Thanks for the comment Chris! And being a subscriber on the channel
The NYR, given their slump, have gone to IMO Stanley Cup contenders to at best this season a wildcard team. I don’t want to discount the possibility the MIR will go on the playoff run but they don’t look remotely close to the Panthers of 2022-23.
The rangers curse after signing shesterkin was evident they dropped off since
It's actually since the election lol
They abandoned the rebuild in 2021, went on fluke playoff runs, and now the chickens have come home to roost
They sucked before the signing
They were dog shit, well before that. They were terrible the exact second Ryan Lindgren came back.
@@dumpybear8664 I can't wait for dirty Lindgren to go now that Trouba is gone
@@mike8099m Dolan sabotaged the rebuild in 2021 but the chickens came home to roost after the election lol
Got to keep the 23 year old Kaapo. Doesn't make sense trading leading Rangers in + - and plays a good defensive game at 2 million .
When is this Kappo Krappo gonna be good in year 15?
I can see Stammer for Zibby straight up. No way I throw in two first rounders to boot
Zibanajad will waive His full NMC to play in Nashville ???: why it's a big DJ destination ?😊
I think Preds would have to but fair enough
What .. Sabers have been in a rebuild for like 15 years 😂
Mika Zibanejad + 2 first round picks for Stamkos, LOL?. Where did the 2 first round picks come from? 2 1sts? Whoa there Gretzky!
Adam Fox and Kris Krieder to Vancouver for JT Miller and Filip Hronek.
Agreed! The over evaluations is insane.
Zibanejad is under contract until 2029 and has a no movement clause. So unfortunately not happening
Excellent insight John...you are an analyst, coach, agent and sometimes I swear...you got the devil in your hands..lol. Kaapo Kakko might not 'accidentally' score if he finds a new home. Keep up the great work dood...miss the hot take hotel lives!
Thanks Grant!!! 🔥
If Miller can’t sort out whatever had him on leave then I could see him and Zibanejad being swapped. But you’re right, Stamkos for Zibanejad makes more sense.
Mika has a full NMC. He's not going anywhere.
@humanbeing2420 So does Miller. Trades happen all the time regardless. But if I’m being honest I’d take Miller out of the two every time.
Wait... Zib for Stamkos and two 1st round picks???? Not a chance.
Would love to see Kakko in Florida.
I would hate to see Kakko in Florida...but only cause i'm a NYR fan and FLA such a perfect fit that I hate it
My Sabres are a shit show.... 😢
Adams needs to be fired, & trades for veterans need to be made.
Trade Adams for some palm trees and a puck bag.
He's working with an internal cap.
It's a money problem.
Sabres have great talent but they need support players.
Spend the money and bring in depth.
So much talent there.
FIRE DRURY
Get rid of Drury yesterday ! this guy is a cancer to the organization . Kakko healthy scratch ? the guy has been playing great .
Play rempe!
Rempe does nothing. I'm so sick of hearing about him.
Panarin and Boesser on the same Line with a proper playmaker center who doesn’t create turnovers with every pass they do , that could be deadly
Zibanejad is a totally spent force.No GM in his right mind will pay/trade top dollar to get this shell of a player Furthermore his fragile mindset is completely off putting for any team's locker room He is a fair weather player
Is he happy being a millstone around the Rangers neck until his contract expires with all the flak he will receive from a famously hostile crowd?
he will eventually get booed every time he touches a puck if the season continues as it is; he will get fed up with it and do anything to get traded away, i think both parties want to part ways the problem is finding ANY team to take him, that is why he is stuck at NYR still.
Team lacks speed and hustle. The former is a roster construction issue, while the latter is psychological, likely caused by guys who are too comfortable and chummy.
As a Nashville Predators fan. Stamkos has been brutal for us this season, so far. To be real, the whole team has lol. We’re finally just starting to see some chemistry between stamkos, forsberg, and marchy. I could see this happening. But man, I really don’t want it to
Two 1sts and Stamkos for a guy who looks totally disinterested and is on a horrible contract in Zib? What am I missing here?
It’s the change of scenery Zibanejad needs. Nashville would value the guy that’s 5 years younger and can play with Filip Forsberg 🇸🇪
Zib will never waive his NMC.
Any GM who even considers a trade for Zibanejad should have his head examined. Mika's performance this season has been substandard for fourth line AHL centers, let alone elite NHL 1Cs. He also has a full NMC and he's not gonna waive it so he's not getting traded.
@@HotTakeHockey Zibanejad is 31, soft and disinterested in playing hockey. He went from 91 pts to 72 pts last yr to being on pace for 57 points this yr. He's a rapidly declining asset and at 8.5 mill for another 5 years makes him worth very little and any GM that trades two 1sts for him should be fired and banned from the league.
I can see Perunovich and Saad being available from stl. Stl doesnt have the cap space for retention. Lindgren also wouldn't make much sense for Stl since we just got Fowler. I could see the Blues being interested in Chytil though, as we need a center more then anything
They have a lot of old forwards signed for a LONG time!
2 1sts and Stamkos for Zibanajad? You're deep in dreamland!
The Jets would offer Ehlers for the right return
They wouldn’t trade Krappo Kappo in a deal for Eichel lol ha ha. Bust boy, he was an untouchable. they could’ve traded Alexis, La feminine and cackle crackle and the first round pick for Eichel and win a cup, but now they got bums signed.
Kakko would be great in Florida. 20 goal scorer minimum.
Agreed. Would be a perfect fit with either Barkov or with Lundell and Luostarinen
stamkos literally just got to nashville lol
They’ll shake it up still… wedgewood got flipped pretty quick
I thought it was Fleury speaking. Uncanny resemblance.
Welcome to the channel!
Won’t thus trigger lots of moves throughout the league? Nashville, Buffalo and Detroit all react if New York makes major moves
Can't speak for other teams do. RW does not have a player of value to others that makes it possible to complete larger trades. All of this is on S.Y's head as he does stupid things like signing expensive contracts for subpar players, or sending players away with bonuses (e.i wallman).
When it comes to using picks, S.Y is completely handicapped (locked in his mind) to use picks for an offensive action. Cat & Larks are two players that could be used in future trades, as neither of them is part of the future core (time-wise), that core only consists of MO/Edv & Lukas today. A lot is in the RW pipe if most turn out well, otherwise through upcoming drafts or deals.
Love the Nashville trade, hate the Buffalo one
I don't want to take back anyone older, I just want to get back to the rebuild already without Dolan ruining it again
Toxic Fanbase deserves this
Why would you want a washed up Stamkos my goodness that contract is awful
Also
Red Wings need to do something too. I know they beat the Leafs but they've been pretty bad all season. Probably the most boring team in hockey.
I hope something happens they are unwatchable right now.
Could be worse. Could be a Sabres fan.
THE DEVILS!!!
Taco Cocko to Tampa Bay
Leadership issue there.
Wtf is wrong with them???
And your on the right track with the D but rangers gotta trade Ryan the plug lindgren and the spit master kandre miller they both suck and are soft can’t play D anymore and useless offensively
agree but long term for the teams sake and fans sanity the GM need to be fired, he is the main reason the team is unhappy and not motivated IMO
You should throw trocheck in these mock trades theres no reason rangers should keep him hes been awful lafreniere is only guy on that line whos been okay recently including panarin whos also been bad if im drury im asking panarin wherr he wants to go and if hell waive NMC