4s/4p does not mean they can be hooked up either way. It means both parallel and series together so the max setup would be 16 batteries hooked up 4 in series and 4 parallel as in 4 rows of 4 series paralleled together = 48v 20480wh
Just as a warning: This model's quality (12.8v 100Ah) has gone downhill in the last couple of years. The batteries I bought in october 2022 have at least 50% more amp/hours than the ones that I bought in January 2024. They became a lot cheaper for a reason, from 300 to 200 USD, I haven't manually measured them individually but when charging and discharging the amps that travel in the DC circuit are almost half as the old ones. See this as a direct equivalent of shrinkflation, or that they're probably getting rid of lower quality LiFePo4 cells. Make sure you test the capacity and return if they don't meet the 100Ah.
@@SOLDOZER I might be wrong. Who knows. I just encourage everyone to test before the warranty expires. If you get the amp-hours stated in the description, you're good to go.
I call BS on this, and if you DID get some bunk batteries, I'm sure PQ will take care of you on it if you contact them. Ive bought a number of them over the past few years, and I've found the quality has only improved since the first ones from years ago. BTW, the first ones are still running close to 100% rated, which makes sense, being that they ran 20% over rated when they were new... Nothing but positive results here.
nice review. glad you point out outher powerqueen battery's . for your use and inverter size looks like 200Ah heated type or one with low temp protection. The low temp has been tested on youtube. it works. you could insulate the battery. what we do in NY . it's cold hear as well. depending on your charge controller it may have low temp cut off. LiFePO4 does not vent H2 gas so just pack some insulation around it and under . I just the flat board foam type. easy to cut and fit and just duck tape it. even insulate the heated type. it draws on the battery to keep warm.
Great review, but I find it somewhat strange that you would knock it for the reasons you state. I live in the PNW USA, and when running lithium iron, it's just a fact of life that we need to keep them warm, or we can't charge them. There's many many options when using a non-self heating battery, like 12v heating pads etc, and we just know that we must use them. I agree that the low cut off is a nice added safety measure, but if we let them get cold, and can't charge them, what good are they? Letting a LiFePO4 battery get below freezing in the first place renders it useless to re-charge. A little insulation, and a $30 12v heating pad would solve all the problems. BUT, I do 100% agree that the auto heating Power Queen is a great choice!
It’s a great battery but even with a heating pad, it’s nice to know that the battery has the ability to protect itself from being damaged if something were to happen.
Exactly.. If the low temp cutoff is used. It's too late.. Why I wrap mine in 5/8" High Density Foam rubber. And still use a Charge controller with the Low Temp Cutoff just in case. And it's worked in -20 degrees F for two years.. As the temp stays above 45 Degrees...As the cold can't get close to the batteries... If your real paranoid. You can wrap them in Heat Tape. The same stuff they wrap water pipes with for pools.. They stay above 40 degrees F in -10 degrees weather...
Low temp cut off matters for many. While it doesn't for you, many really need it. This review points out it is missing on this inexpensive battery being sold in Canada where it gets cold. $$$$ batteries investment can be damaged. The reviewer is correct to point out it doesn't work. It doesn't work for him.
@@mrgregweber Did you read the post? The cost to wrap the batteries with thermal tape. Is cheaper then the extra cost for a battery that has that function.. A function in some batteries that does not really work.. Thermal tape them. Insulate them. You will never need that function. And you save yourself $130.00+ in extra cost per battery.. I would add. Most charge controllers include a low temp shut off probe too start with.
@@mrgregweber What part you not get? As you insulate them. then wrap them in thermal tape to prevent any chance of getting near 30 degrees.. And you don't need to write a book on how that works. It's just cheaper and you know it works "Every Time" Go ask people that deal with Cold weather that own swinging pools. As an RV 12 volt 40 watt heating pad is less then $20.00..The same pads they use to keep water tanks from freezing in an RV.. Have a nice day..
Nice review. I'm planning to switch from sealed lead acid to LiFePo4 eventually. Here in the tropics i don't need a low temp cut off tho as its always warm. Greetings from Jamaica.
@@madetoexplore Just got my Power Queen 100ah battery yesterday. I just need to fully charge it now before i replace my old sealed lead acid battery bank. Thanks again for your video.
The sealed lead/acid i got for free used from UPSs at work. I was running some 28 of them in parallel, 7.2ah. However i just imported a LiFepo4, 100ah and its working very nicely. The LiFePo4 shipping was expensive because of weight but it was duty and tax free. @@DeeeGrant
@@DeeeGrant Yes, i just got my second a few weeks ago and have it in parallel. Duty and tax free. But it did cost me Ja$15,610.00 shipping and fees with Mailpac.
Pretty sure the DCC charger shown in the vid has low-temp cutoff in Li profiles. If so, I will suggest the problem in cold WX is not lack of BMS cutoff, but lack of internal heating to keep the bank online. I'm not in CA but my 100Ah LFP sits on a 16w warming mat which holds the temp setting nicely.. After reading a bunch of cell datasheets I keep the bank rather warm at 50F/10C.
Yep, both of my chargers have that option. I don’t have them installed because of the heated battery I usually use during the winter months. Which warming mat do you have?
Thanks! There’s definitely options for a few heating pads out there but I find it much easier to have a battery with a built in heating function. Much less to worry about when I’m on the road.
I bought the POWERQUEEN 200Ah Plus and it failed on the first day. Their company still hasn't refunded my money or sent a replacement. #powerqueen #powerqueenus #solar #battery #boondocking #lifepo4 #greenenergy #offgrid #vanlife #rv #camper #fishing #survival
Now it’s 300 cdn with Bluetooth too! And cold weather bms…. That’s a win for me…. 4 going in the motorhome.
Nice! Glad they made these upgrades 👍
4s/4p does not mean they can be hooked up either way. It means both parallel and series together so the max setup would be 16 batteries hooked up 4 in series and 4 parallel as in 4 rows of 4 series paralleled together = 48v 20480wh
Yes I know. I was referring to the maximum capacity. In this case, the battery can handle all three types of connections
Just as a warning: This model's quality (12.8v 100Ah) has gone downhill in the last couple of years. The batteries I bought in october 2022 have at least 50% more amp/hours than the ones that I bought in January 2024. They became a lot cheaper for a reason, from 300 to 200 USD, I haven't manually measured them individually but when charging and discharging the amps that travel in the DC circuit are almost half as the old ones. See this as a direct equivalent of shrinkflation, or that they're probably getting rid of lower quality LiFePo4 cells. Make sure you test the capacity and return if they don't meet the 100Ah.
Good to know! Thanks for sharing
100% total BS.
@@SOLDOZER you a pimp? 😂😂
@@SOLDOZER I might be wrong. Who knows. I just encourage everyone to test before the warranty expires. If you get the amp-hours stated in the description, you're good to go.
I call BS on this, and if you DID get some bunk batteries, I'm sure PQ will take care of you on it if you contact them. Ive bought a number of them over the past few years, and I've found the quality has only improved since the first ones from years ago. BTW, the first ones are still running close to 100% rated, which makes sense, being that they ran 20% over rated when they were new... Nothing but positive results here.
Sorry you didn't like them. The pair of Power Queens in my RV are excellent. They have met and exceeded my expectations.
I actually really like the battery. It’s just the low temp cut off is my only dislike.
Hes just click baiting. Hes a a Renogy fanboy.
Thank you guys for watching! Are you interested in purchasing a battery from Power Queen? If so, which model?
nice review. glad you point out outher powerqueen battery's . for your use and inverter size looks like 200Ah heated type or one with low temp protection. The low temp has been tested on youtube. it works. you could insulate the battery. what we do in NY . it's cold hear as well. depending on your charge controller it may have low temp cut off. LiFePO4 does not vent H2 gas so just pack some insulation around it and under . I just the flat board foam type. easy to cut and fit and just duck tape it. even insulate the heated type. it draws on the battery to keep warm.
Thank you! That would definitely work 👍 appreciate the info
Lots of people use RV tank heaters to keep the batteries warm.
Great review, but I find it somewhat strange that you would knock it for the reasons you state. I live in the PNW USA, and when running lithium iron, it's just a fact of life that we need to keep them warm, or we can't charge them. There's many many options when using a non-self heating battery, like 12v heating pads etc, and we just know that we must use them. I agree that the low cut off is a nice added safety measure, but if we let them get cold, and can't charge them, what good are they? Letting a LiFePO4 battery get below freezing in the first place renders it useless to re-charge. A little insulation, and a $30 12v heating pad would solve all the problems. BUT, I do 100% agree that the auto heating Power Queen is a great choice!
It’s a great battery but even with a heating pad, it’s nice to know that the battery has the ability to protect itself from being damaged if something were to happen.
Exactly.. If the low temp cutoff is used. It's too late.. Why I wrap mine in 5/8" High Density Foam rubber. And still use a Charge controller with the Low Temp Cutoff just in case. And it's worked in -20 degrees F for two years.. As the temp stays above 45 Degrees...As the cold can't get close to the batteries...
If your real paranoid. You can wrap them in Heat Tape. The same stuff they wrap water pipes with for pools.. They stay above 40 degrees F in -10 degrees weather...
Low temp cut off matters for many. While it doesn't for you, many really need it. This review points out it is missing on this inexpensive battery being sold in Canada where it gets cold. $$$$ batteries investment can be damaged. The reviewer is correct to point out it doesn't work. It doesn't work for him.
@@mrgregweber Did you read the post? The cost to wrap the batteries with thermal tape. Is cheaper then the extra cost for a battery that has that function.. A function in some batteries that does not really work..
Thermal tape them. Insulate them. You will never need that function. And you save yourself $130.00+ in extra cost per battery..
I would add. Most charge controllers include a low temp shut off probe too start with.
@@mrgregweber What part you not get? As you insulate them. then wrap them in thermal tape to prevent any chance of getting near 30 degrees..
And you don't need to write a book on how that works. It's just cheaper and you know it works "Every Time" Go ask people that deal with Cold weather that own swinging pools. As an RV 12 volt 40 watt heating pad is less then $20.00..The same pads they use to keep water tanks from freezing in an RV..
Have a nice day..
Update now 213 bucks
@@sleepingbear6116 a very affordable option!
@@madetoexplore got 4 lol Price of one few years ago
@@madetoexplore making 48v 100 AH
Nice review. I'm planning to switch from sealed lead acid to LiFePo4 eventually. Here in the tropics i don't need a low temp cut off tho as its always warm. Greetings from Jamaica.
Awesome! LiFePO4 are a huge upgrade!
@@madetoexplore Just got my Power Queen 100ah battery yesterday. I just need to fully charge it now before i replace my old sealed lead acid battery bank.
Thanks again for your video.
Did you import them to Jamaica duty and tax free?
The sealed lead/acid i got for free used from UPSs at work. I was running some 28 of them in parallel, 7.2ah. However i just imported a LiFepo4, 100ah and its working very nicely. The LiFePo4 shipping was expensive because of weight but it was duty and tax free. @@DeeeGrant
@@DeeeGrant Yes, i just got my second a few weeks ago and have it in parallel. Duty and tax free. But it did cost me Ja$15,610.00 shipping and fees with Mailpac.
I was waiting for this side to come out, LOL. Just cant please everyone.
Gotta have that low temp sensor!
just put a lot of insulation material around, heat it up here and there and that's it. Problem solved
Doubt that’ll work in -35C! Haha This would probably be fine when temperatures are just below freezing
Pretty sure the DCC charger shown in the vid has low-temp cutoff in Li profiles. If so, I will suggest the problem in cold WX is not lack of BMS cutoff, but lack of internal heating to keep the bank online.
I'm not in CA but my 100Ah LFP sits on a 16w warming mat which holds the temp setting nicely.. After reading a bunch of cell datasheets I keep the bank rather warm at 50F/10C.
Yep, both of my chargers have that option. I don’t have them installed because of the heated battery I usually use during the winter months. Which warming mat do you have?
@@madetoexplore I use a generic 16w reptile mat off amazon. $15 or so. The SCC and BMS both have cold-cutoff.
@@fratermus5502 is there a thermostat to turn the mat on and off?
@@madetoexplore Yes, a temp controller holds it within a couple tenths of a degree
Try insulation and a warming pad. They use them for wine making check it out.
Thanks! There’s definitely options for a few heating pads out there but I find it much easier to have a battery with a built in heating function. Much less to worry about when I’m on the road.
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I bought the POWERQUEEN 200Ah Plus and it failed on the first day. Their company still hasn't refunded my money or sent a replacement.
#powerqueen
#powerqueenus
#solar
#battery
#boondocking
#lifepo4
#greenenergy
#offgrid
#vanlife
#rv
#camper
#fishing
#survival
How did it fail? What’s with the hashtags?
Lies.
This is very interesting video. I never seen a bever talk.
Glad you found it so interesting! 🦫 😆
What size are the bolts on the pos/neg?
8mm
10mm socket will fit them.
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@@madetoexplore in the thumbnail "why its not for me" question, the answer is around the 9min mark.