23_07 Sixth Chiltern Society HS2 Update

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  • Опубліковано 20 гру 2024

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  • @nicholasroberts6954
    @nicholasroberts6954 Рік тому +2

    If the activity at the Colne Valley viaduct and the West Ruislip tunnel entrance are anything to go by, then you'd hardly know there is a major construction project is underway. The traffic in and out ofthe various sites is rarely seen. The management of this project is superb. Worth every penny.

  • @alexmckenna1171
    @alexmckenna1171 Рік тому +27

    A truly beautiful project - the railway system needs this route urgently, for many reasons.

  • @martinsloman6905
    @martinsloman6905 Рік тому +3

    Another informative update. Thanks Keith!

  • @DaveFiggley
    @DaveFiggley Рік тому

    Excellent. I'm looking forward to hopping on the train at Euston and alighting in Edinburgh three hours later.
    This new infrastucture, despite the environmental carnage, is going to level-up the whole of Britain.
    Oh, right. And then I woke up ...

  • @geoffreydingle2410
    @geoffreydingle2410 Рік тому +1

    I wonder if there was such an outcry when the M40 was built

  • @marvintpandroid2213
    @marvintpandroid2213 Рік тому +10

    The extending time scale is due to the idocy of this government.

    • @Nooticus
      @Nooticus Рік тому +2

      Facts ^

    • @verumignis4778
      @verumignis4778 Рік тому +1

      This is something nimbys and sensible people can both agree on lol

  • @RitaFarrow
    @RitaFarrow Рік тому +2

    keith thanking you for this content, my only 2 questions is ,why on earth did the project not start by heathrow airport, i say this as there is a underground rail route that goes straight into the city,such a waste of money trying to start at euston,next question, for me the project should just get on and do the track bed,,the landscaping can be do afterwards and subbed out to ground workers companies,every video i watch nothing is moving along,hence why the job is taking so long to complete

    • @Whiskey2shots
      @Whiskey2shots Рік тому +1

      given the intensity of the elizabeth line's service it would be almost impossible to then weave in the number of trains per hour required for HS2, along with the desire to have hs2 terminate atleast near to the west, east, and midland main lines alogn with HS1. I do however agree we should have an underground terminus for HS2, however i would prefer it be under euston and st pancras to improve operations.

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 Рік тому

      @@Whiskey2shots Why should there be an underground terminus for HS2., it is bad enough getting a surface terminus at London Euston next to the existing Euston Station

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 Рік тому

      Because there is no reason for HS2 to go to Heathrow Airport, being a Birmingham based project, HS2 will when it opens already be serving two large Airports, Birmingham Airport and Manchester Airport

    • @Whiskey2shots
      @Whiskey2shots Рік тому +2

      @@peterwilliamallen1063 because an underground terminus allows for through running to HS1 and the continent. I would personally want this to be a complete redevelopment of the St Pancras, Kings cross, Euston combined site to make a true central hub of the railways. Obviously this is very much a pie in the sky idea but this would be the ideal IMO

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 Рік тому

      @@Whiskey2shots There are a number of problems here as WHAT you want is not what you get, for a start there is no room in that area of London for one great Big Railway Station, the next thing, why does HS2 require to be connected to HS1 and the continent, HS1 is an international rail line with specialist trains designed to travel under the channel, HS2 is just a domestic line to ease up and speed up services from the North and the west Midlands to London and was never planned to join upto HS1, this idea started as a Chinese whisper and then got to a point that people believed it would happen, but the two different sets of trains are totally different

  • @verumignis4778
    @verumignis4778 Рік тому +5

    This does seem a bit short-sighted, when the rail line is complete all these construction sites will be landscaped to look just as they did before, if not better. All this "devastation" is temporary. Y'all nimbys arent complaining about the devastation caused by the roads (for example the A413), some of you are even complaining that it will limit the ability to expand the A413, if that awful road got expanded think about the "devastation" that would happen then. I feel that HS2 was marketed so poorly and the braindead nimbyism was so strong that now everyone in those areas are complaining about it without realising the costs they are adding to the project.

  • @willhemmings
    @willhemmings Рік тому +2

    Very thorough overview. Agree with you that the Little Dean destruction looks shocking and disturbing. I have greater concern for the landscape losses between Jones Hill Wood and South Heath. Nothing will be able to mitigate that. Terrible to think that a tree some distance from the centre line has to be fought for because it is in the way of an earth bund for goodness sake. An earth bund to protect what, nearby residents from the sound or sight of trains? Well would not the nearby residents prefer the tree instead? Or HS2 dig the formation for the trackbed a few metres lower? HS2 has decided the tree is wrong, so HS2 will contrive a way to be rid of it. Oh I dislike that company intensely

    • @paulefc1971
      @paulefc1971 Рік тому +1

      You dislike a company for doing things the way that the government insist?
      dig the formation lower? That adds cost, to protect a tree?

    • @willhemmings
      @willhemmings Рік тому

      @@paulefc1971 I understand there may be additional costs for this or that bit of environmental protection, but the symbolic gesture of conciliation is the least the project can offer to mitigate for what is a wrongly engineered approach to building a tunnel under the Chiltern Hills - tunnels are meant to go under hills, not emerge in cutting at the highest point for all to know about

    • @verumignis4778
      @verumignis4778 Рік тому +3

      Your treating it as if these construction sites are permenant. When it is done it will be about half the width of a motorway and carry about 6x the number of people. If you would like to pay the bill for protecting your oh so precious tree then go ahead but I sure as hell don't want my tax money being spent on NIMBY pleasing activities like that. HS2 are spending millions planting loads of trees to offset what they are cutting down, why aren't we talking about that?

    • @howardjones6752
      @howardjones6752 Рік тому

      It’s a tree, get over yourselves. You’ll be the first to whinge like old washer women if the cost of keeping the tree was put on your poll tax bills.

  • @stradaveriusfiddle
    @stradaveriusfiddle Рік тому +3

    It is quite a disappointment to hear of the many historical sites and areas of legacy Oaks and forest being destroyed as a result of the way plans have been laid for this more than massive project.
    Residents in affected areas tend to assume that the most experienced planners have weighed these factors with most intelligent minds in this area of construction projects that England has on offer, if so, is there anyone else that can run these problems through some of the Artificial Intelligence we’ve been hearing about, before the next ‘Bronze Age artifacts’ site gets demolished forever ?

    • @Whiskey2shots
      @Whiskey2shots Рік тому +9

      hs2 had some of the most intensive route investigations ever for a railway to avoid as many forests etc. as possible and the has been archeological digs along most of the route

    • @CRIMSONANT1
      @CRIMSONANT1 Рік тому

      HS2 is an environmental disaster of epic proportions & Britain's biggest infrastructure mistake in half a century.
      Thankfully, the Eastern leg & the Golborne link have now been scrapped & fingers crossed, the rest of this monstrous vanity project will never see the light of day.

    • @verumignis4778
      @verumignis4778 Рік тому +6

      Oh no, a tree got demolished, just as well they are spending millions planting plenty of trees to replace them...

    • @CRIMSONANT1
      @CRIMSONANT1 Рік тому

      @@verumignis4778 .. trees don't get "demolished" & no matter how many more are planted, you can't "replace" ancient woodlands you utter 🤡

    • @davecooper3238
      @davecooper3238 Рік тому +2

      HS2 has uncovered sites that would not even have been known about. As far as I am concerned that’s a positive.