The seat-lock being ugly is a feature. Ugly bikes rarely get stolen. You see this in bike heavy areas, where a very common and effective way to keep new bikes from being stolen (beyond just a good lock) is to deliberately make it ugly. No one wants to buy an ugly bike.
That's actually a great tip lol. If they have to do some amount of work to be able to sell them, it's not worth it. So in this case, the bike appears to be missing a seat. You can also remove other things, like the handle bars if you're storing your bike for a little while. I have two bikes, one is a super cheap rusty single gear that I always bring into town.
yes i was considering painting my bike with rust effect paint because of this. i think it would be very effective and also i kinda like the look. i love those rat rod cars.
My bicycle has mismatched colors, scuffed frame, and overall looks different. It is not a generic bicycle that's a dime a dozen, so that makes it unattractive to thieves. Can't easily sell that, and getting parts for it is a pain because this is not a standard bicycle in my country - it's an import from another. Sure, a lot of stuff fits just fine, but plenty enough doesn't. The bicycle overall is also around 40 years old, give or take half a decade or so, so yeah.
I know a guy who went out with a another guy and despite his bike being older and worth considerably less, his bike was "nicer" in that it wasn't scratched and had no damage or rust. Even though the bike was worth less than half the other guys new, his had a couple of scratches and his chain was old and needed replacing, they stole the one that was worth less because it was nicer (despite also having a better lock). Bike thieves rarely know much about bikes and if it looks poor quality or ugly in some way, they aren't doing a service to check it nor a market survey, meanwhile the reverse is true if it looks old and beat-up. Care about what makes a bike comfortable or quality but try to avoid cosmetic improvements, they don't improve your enjoyment nor its practicality but they do increase the likelihood some thief will think its a better bike and worth nicking.
@@hitomidiaconchuk5149 I don't know, they need just seat :) . It is very common here, also to steal only wheel or worse to steal whole bike, and leave you only chained wheel :)
That Mongoose cargo bike would make a good fishing rig. Soft cooler could fit in the saddle bag with a yakcrate strapped to the back or an ice chest strapped to the rack with all your gear in the bags.
The aesthetics of the seaty lock are what they are... but I use a different lock from that same brand and I can say it works. I came back to my bike once and saw attempted bolt cutter gouges in the plastic but the metal held firm. The thieves gave up after who knows how long and the lock still works fine!
I’m using the Foldylock myself. Because endurance road bikes are designed now with extra mounts on the downtube I use the extra mounts to permanently mount a lock on my road bike without giving up space for my water bottles. I often get side eyes from my fellow roadies because “extra weight” but it means I don’t have to wear a backpack on my longer rides and I need to stop to refill my water bottles or I come across a bakery that looks interesting. And for my commuter bikes I’m able to use all the space in my panniers for groceries.
I saw a slimmer Seth now. You obviously quitted those unhealthy habits and its great to see fitter side of you in YT. Keep it up man! Health is wealth!
Conceptwise I like the seat lock thing because 'oh hey the thief took bolt cutters thorugh or drilled out the lock or whatever... now they have a bike with no seat.' Won't stop someone who's just taking bikes andthrowing them in a truck or van orwhatever but it in theory may keep someone who's just walking through from riding off on the thing. Honestly, that rear camera? I don't even want it for a bike. I want it for an electronics project.
Even if you have a getaway vehicle you (or someone down the chain) will still need to replace the seat before anyone will want it. If its a high end bike then sure, its worth the extra effort to replace the seat but who's putting this on a high end bike!? In my experience thieves will just cut a high end bike in half and sell the untraceable components for a couple of grand, so no lock is going to save you...
For electronic project car rear reversing cameras and diaplays are easy and cheap. The cameras are plain NTSC video and have internal straps that set mirroring and overlay. FPV drone cameras can be used too.
ok, as a unicyclist, I have to say that the penny farthing or the unicycle equivalent can be a decent commuter. specifically as a last-mile addition to public transit, my 36" is a lot shorter than any of my bikes, so it works well with commuter, subway, and light rail trains.
I can see that (I don't think the bike rack on the bus I take can handle my 36" though :( ) Watching this made me wonder if anyone has put a Schlumpf hub on a Penny-Farthing...
Kinda makes me wish I knew how to ride a unicycle for a last mile solution, til then though, my folding bike does a great job of being a compact last mile option
College bike commuter here- had a bike stolen on campus, and got a new one. Obviously needed a better lock, but hated carrying one. I went with the lobster lock. LPL even commended it for the upgraded core. Super convenient, never rattles around, and I barely notice the weight. Get the lobster lock over that seat thing (if you can fit it on your frame) its cheaper, more robust, and so much easier to lock and unlock. No lock protects your bike, but seeing 2 steel bars going around your frame certainly helps...
I don’t know if some company already makes soft jaws similar to that kid’s, but if they don’t, please tell that kid to patent those! Those things are awesome!
The big difference on the seat lock is that if an thieve use an angled grinder to cut the lock (destroying it) he will have no seat to to ride!!!! Yes it is ugly as hell, but with a big appeal being integrated as damaging the lock, means damaging the seat.
Many stolen bikes are immediately thrown into a VAN or other car, so no seat is not necessarily a problem. However, this lock does prevent the seat itself being stolen.
@@sebastianjost Well it an extra thing of hassle. Stealing is about an easy payday, finding a new saddle is work and if thieves liked work they wouldn't be thieves. So this is still helpful, if other bikes of similar apparent value are available near.
Someone else probably mentioned this, but the spring on the Mongoose isn’t a steering damper, it’s to keep the front wheel from flopping around when it’s up on the kickstand. You see them on cargo and touring bikes that have heavy rear loads. Because of the location of the kickstand and the amount of weight on the rear of the bike, the front wheel will always be up in the air when the bike is on the kickstand. A flopping front wheel can cause the bike to tip over (not good for heavy cargo or touring bikes).
With the bike camera you haven't pushed the plug in enough, I have the same item and you need to push it until it clicks, you shouldn't see any silver from the plug. I used mine to keep an eye on my trailer. The screen isn't great but it's good enough to keep an eye on the kids.
I wanted to comment how happy I was to see another weird product video. Then I noticed when you talk to your wife, how much I enjoyed the humanity of it or whatever. Much like seeing cleetus build his house or MWTB Aron (idk how to spell his name, no disrespect.) then I read the comments and I realized how much the health aspect has to do with it. Good for you man. I have sobered up and double down on eating better/exercise. I’m on a path to being the happiest I’ve ever been, despite whatever mental heath issues I can use as an excuse. These videos help de stress and let me live vicariously. Thanks dude!
The biki camera thing is a great idea. I haul two Frenchies in a trailer. But, why not make it Bluetooth and send the image to your smart phone. It will cost more but it will be more better.
I owned a Mongoose Envoy for a few years. Got it at the start of the pandemic. Added a seat for my kids and a handlebar and stem attached to the seat tube. Ended up using the bike for trail building as you can carry tools, chainsaw, weed whackers pretty easily. No issues with the drivetrain, and brakes were okay. Major pain are the hooks on the bags, they snap really easily. Otherwise, cant beat the value!
Hey Seth, it feels like your editing/scripting has become a lot slicker in the past couple of months. I don't know if it's a new editor on your team or you making a focused effort on adding more editing techniques to your own toolkit, but I think it's paying off for you either way. I do miss the little bonus clips that used to be at the end of videos, though. I liked how those contributed to the overall feel of the video, because it kinda brought the vibe back down to "Seth and one or two friends having some fun with a camera", which is still one of the best aspects of UA-cam as a medium.
Thanks for this video Seth. Can't wait for the full camera review. The "Kid" with the 3D printer is someone to watch - he will change industries with his designs!
To paraphrase: "The best lock is the one you use." If I can't forget by bike lock, then I will be using it everytime. For a campus commuter bike, the Seatylock seems like a good idea. Granted I'm the kind of person who has a OneUp EDC on my bikes because I love things I can't forget, but I like it. It's niche... but in that niche, it seems pretty great.
I've been bike commuting with my seaty lock for years now. I love it. I dont have to carry a separately mounted lock or make sure it's in my bag before I go.
That mongoose is brilliant, although id probably end up sticking a cheap mid drive motor on it for getting it back up the hill to my house when loaded with shopping
I have a Mongoose Envoy I've converted into a kid carrier cargo bike and it's been so fun. The value is incredible. The only thing is that the tires started splitting and failing within the first few months, which was a bummer because they are nice big, plush 26.2.35" tires. The brakes are also not great and I already bought an upgrade brake system, but as Seth mentions, if you want to upgrade the brakes, you'll also have to move to separate trigger shifters since the stock levers are integrated with the shifters.
The seat lock is genius and deserves a bit more credit. - Great for quick rides when you don’t want to lug around a lock but might need to stop. - Great as a secondary lock for more security. - Practically hidden when you’re on the bike. - Smack bang centre of gravity. - Comes on and off super easily. I’m sure they’ll improve their 2.0 version.
Yeah, and now I'm out $632. Mongoose itself might be the only place to get a M/L at that price. And free shipping. Did I really need another bike? No...
So glad to see that mongoose! I have been looking at cargo bikes but they all have motors!! And I’m looking to get a workout in! Glad to see it’s upgradableish.
That digital rear-view mirror is ridiculous, but what we really need are rear-view cameras that attach to the seat post and just record (no screen). Just have a memory that continuously overwrites the oldest footage. Would be great for commuting. Maybe integrate a blinking light to it.
Seatylock: kinda takes the old "taking the saddle" way of preventing opportunistic thefts method to the next level. So the real benefit not really touched upon is that a thief that steals this won't have a secure seat. Not that big of an issue if they really really want your specific bike, but it might deter them from picking yours over the next bike in the bikerack. Thieves usually want an easy payday, so any hassle after freeing it up is effective, that's why thing like locking through the spokes where the valve is works well too; with the violence required to break it open, there's a good chance the valve will break, so more hassle afterwards.
That seat lock is sick. I wonder if instead of just the saddle, though, if they could just make the entire seat tube the lock. If you're going to have a proprietary tube anyway for the quick release, might as well use that space to fix the "ugly" part.
Surprised you didn't mention how much further forward that seat sits. It lines up with the mount vertically instead of at the rearward angle and there doesn't appear to be enough adjustment to deal with that.
I think the rearview camera is a decent idea, it's just poorly executed. It's tough to get a perfect angle on your mirror without your body getting in the way of what you want to see. Might be good for commuting when you don't care too much about extra weight and looking like a dork. Someone should make a good screen that wirelessly connects to existing rearview cameras.
I have the seatylock on my girlfriends bicycle because regardless of what you think of its look, it solves a huge problem with bike locks: where are you going to mount it? While also solving the major issue of most new bicycles sold in USA: saddles too narrow. For practical commuting purposes in lower risk areas, this is an excellent option.
One potentially cool use for the backup camera would be if it had a starlight camera (super good low light performance) and you used it at night; You usually don't have a bright tail light so might be better than a mirror there. I'm pulling at strings here.
A cool product would be a security camera that allows you to monitor your bike when you can't see it. I always lock my bike, but I would love to monitor it when I'm in a restaurant, store, etc...
Just keep doing what yer doing man. Unreal. Love product reviews and loving cargo bikes. Goofy, look fun, and undeniably practical. Keep your head up. And also I have a hack of a bike stand. Would believe the kids block may work there too. I think I am using 2x4s and bike tubing...idea from your channel. Lol
I like the bike seaty lock AND the camera. The Seaty Lock is a good deal because if you want a decent seat and a decent lock, you're gonna end up spending $100 anyway. And as for the rear view camera, I am all for it. I am on the bigger side, but even when I WASN'T big, I never had a good experience with mirrors. Put them on the ends of handlebars? They get smacked on something and broken. Put them further in on the bars? Enjoy looking at your arms and shoulders. Hang them under your handlebars to avoid staring at your torso? Hope you like looking at your thighs. Mirrors on bikes just DO NOT WORK. Gimme that camera. I'll tape a cardboard hood over the screen if I wanna see it outdoors.
This is the point where I wish I had some kind of company that could hire that kid. He's obviously got some ideas and just needs the space to grow them.
The Mongoose bike looks good and it's nice to see a cargo bike which doesn't cost as much as a car. I'd like to see a long time test to see how durable the frame and the components are. The soft jaws look really great 👍
That mirror camera is actually good. Mirrors look lame. They stick up and out, you need to look down and to the side to get a small and restricted view of behind you. The camera you glance straight down easily to see a full view of what's behind. Picture is more than good enough and also shows car headlights well at night. They cost 170 here in Aus, I bought a second one. They do a good job...👍
As someone who spends a decent amount of time in nyc, a lock that removes the bike seat is a good idea because if someone steals it, they won’t have the seat (assuming breaking the lock, breaks the seat) which would deter a surprisingly large amount of people who would just want to joy ride it for a few hours and ditch it somewhere
As someone who got rid of his car an only commute with my bike, that Mongoose Envoy looks absolutely amazing! It's clear they spent a lot of time researching what people like me want/need because that bike ticks every box. And as a owner Seatylock are AMAZING locks that come in all security rating. I never had any issues with and are built SOLID. I don't have the one shown in the video but I really wanted it as my secondary lock, sadly as someone who spend 6+ hours a day riding I'm VERY specific on my bike seats. I really love that concept. Wish they could/would make it so you could BYO seat. ... It's was sad to hear you echo the message that people should care what it looks like, its a seat that your either going to bit covering or using as a lock. You also should NEVER care what other people think and the worst part about the MTB community those kind of attitudes. It's very uninviting to inviting new people to become part of it (something your always amazing doing).
That seat lock is actually a good idea for city dwellers. Yes you won’t want to leave your bike anywhere for very long but it’s should be good for a quick stop in a convenience store or similar.
I added a handle to my long tail cargo bike, I think Yuba makes it, and while it's designed for what you were seeing the seat handle as being for, on such a heavy setup it's super handy just for moving the back end of the bike around.
I have a review bike camera similar to the won you are showing in this video. I didn’t install mines on the handle bars. I installed mines in the middle where you tighten down the fork and I have no problem with the video cutting off and on when moving it and I have no problems seeing the picture.
Impeccable timing, I was about to do something productive.
LOL!
Don’t worry! This is totally productive! 😂
Right?! I guess I could use 1 more cup of coffee
Fuck I was about to go fixing my bicycle.
Now I can't.
🤣same
Holy shit man you are GLOWING. Big props for losing weight and making time for yourself to do more and eat healthier. It's not easy. Good for you man
Ikr, I actually had to check the date when the video was posted, he looks so much younger
Came here to say the same thing. He looks so great!
You need a video on what you changed in your diet
He looks exactly the same. People need to stop obsessing about weight.
i was on my way to tell the same hahaha
The seat-lock being ugly is a feature. Ugly bikes rarely get stolen. You see this in bike heavy areas, where a very common and effective way to keep new bikes from being stolen (beyond just a good lock) is to deliberately make it ugly. No one wants to buy an ugly bike.
That's actually a great tip lol. If they have to do some amount of work to be able to sell them, it's not worth it.
So in this case, the bike appears to be missing a seat. You can also remove other things, like the handle bars if you're storing your bike for a little while. I have two bikes, one is a super cheap rusty single gear that I always bring into town.
Can confirm.
I've only had nice looking bikes stolen.
Professional thieves have good taste in bikes.
yes i was considering painting my bike with rust effect paint because of this. i think it would be very effective and also i kinda like the look. i love those rat rod cars.
My bicycle has mismatched colors, scuffed frame, and overall looks different. It is not a generic bicycle that's a dime a dozen, so that makes it unattractive to thieves. Can't easily sell that, and getting parts for it is a pain because this is not a standard bicycle in my country - it's an import from another. Sure, a lot of stuff fits just fine, but plenty enough doesn't.
The bicycle overall is also around 40 years old, give or take half a decade or so, so yeah.
I know a guy who went out with a another guy and despite his bike being older and worth considerably less, his bike was "nicer" in that it wasn't scratched and had no damage or rust. Even though the bike was worth less than half the other guys new, his had a couple of scratches and his chain was old and needed replacing, they stole the one that was worth less because it was nicer (despite also having a better lock). Bike thieves rarely know much about bikes and if it looks poor quality or ugly in some way, they aren't doing a service to check it nor a market survey, meanwhile the reverse is true if it looks old and beat-up. Care about what makes a bike comfortable or quality but try to avoid cosmetic improvements, they don't improve your enjoyment nor its practicality but they do increase the likelihood some thief will think its a better bike and worth nicking.
In Europe seats often get stolen, so you may come to your bike and find it without seat. This seat lock address that also.
They appear to also make a quick detach seat without the lock.
L europe
why would people steal just the seat?
@@hitomidiaconchuk5149 I don't know, they need just seat :) . It is very common here, also to steal only wheel or worse to steal whole bike, and leave you only chained wheel :)
What happened in Europe that caused this?
That Mongoose cargo bike would make a good fishing rig. Soft cooler could fit in the saddle bag with a yakcrate strapped to the back or an ice chest strapped to the rack with all your gear in the bags.
3:48 I was not expecting a joke like that from Seth
me niether :'D
I had to rewind to make sure he did what I think he was gonna do 😁
Lol...same...the new REAL Seth?
Once that seat is removed it makes stealing it harder as destroying the lock destroys the bike seat.
*Laughs in trials rider *
you underestimate the average street people
Features: Direct mount brakes and direct mount seat post.
The aesthetics of the seaty lock are what they are... but I use a different lock from that same brand and I can say it works. I came back to my bike once and saw attempted bolt cutter gouges in the plastic but the metal held firm. The thieves gave up after who knows how long and the lock still works fine!
I’m using the Foldylock myself. Because endurance road bikes are designed now with extra mounts on the downtube I use the extra mounts to permanently mount a lock on my road bike without giving up space for my water bottles. I often get side eyes from my fellow roadies because “extra weight” but it means I don’t have to wear a backpack on my longer rides and I need to stop to refill my water bottles or I come across a bakery that looks interesting. And for my commuter bikes I’m able to use all the space in my panniers for groceries.
2:11 looking good, Seth. I know you put in the work to shed the extra weight and maximize your health. Looks like you're maintaining it, as well.
I like the voice cameo appearance by Mrs. Bike Hacks.
The soft jaws are awesome. That kid nailed it
I saw a slimmer Seth now. You obviously quitted those unhealthy habits and its great to see fitter side of you in YT. Keep it up man! Health is wealth!
Goddamn that's some bad grammar.
@@its_generikI guess grammar isn’t wealth
First thing I noticed too. Looks like he's turned the clock back and shaved off a few years.
Conceptwise I like the seat lock thing because 'oh hey the thief took bolt cutters thorugh or drilled out the lock or whatever... now they have a bike with no seat.' Won't stop someone who's just taking bikes andthrowing them in a truck or van orwhatever but it in theory may keep someone who's just walking through from riding off on the thing.
Honestly, that rear camera? I don't even want it for a bike. I want it for an electronics project.
Even if you have a getaway vehicle you (or someone down the chain) will still need to replace the seat before anyone will want it. If its a high end bike then sure, its worth the extra effort to replace the seat but who's putting this on a high end bike!?
In my experience thieves will just cut a high end bike in half and sell the untraceable components for a couple of grand, so no lock is going to save you...
For electronic project car rear reversing cameras and diaplays are easy and cheap. The cameras are plain NTSC video and have internal straps that set mirroring and overlay. FPV drone cameras can be used too.
ok, as a unicyclist, I have to say that the penny farthing or the unicycle equivalent can be a decent commuter. specifically as a last-mile addition to public transit, my 36" is a lot shorter than any of my bikes, so it works well with commuter, subway, and light rail trains.
I can see that (I don't think the bike rack on the bus I take can handle my 36" though :( )
Watching this made me wonder if anyone has put a Schlumpf hub on a Penny-Farthing...
Kinda makes me wish I knew how to ride a unicycle for a last mile solution, til then though, my folding bike does a great job of being a compact last mile option
3:45 Seth was boutta show us somethin xD
Curse you youtube and your silly restrictions!
College bike commuter here- had a bike stolen on campus, and got a new one. Obviously needed a better lock, but hated carrying one. I went with the lobster lock. LPL even commended it for the upgraded core. Super convenient, never rattles around, and I barely notice the weight. Get the lobster lock over that seat thing (if you can fit it on your frame) its cheaper, more robust, and so much easier to lock and unlock. No lock protects your bike, but seeing 2 steel bars going around your frame certainly helps...
I don’t know if some company already makes soft jaws similar to that kid’s, but if they don’t, please tell that kid to patent those! Those things are awesome!
Seth. Long time UK fan. And now my son watches you. Just wanted to say how well and healthy you look. Just another way to inspire people. Good for you
6:40 $600. When he says below $1,000, I hear 'almost $1000'. But that thing is like the same price as his unicycle.
He said $600.
The price was $999 at one point, and I thought it was fair, but at $600 it's that much better.
@@BermPeakExpress It's on sale from the looks of it, retails at $1049. Super tempting at $600...
Looking trim Seth. Good work!
8:43 put a fox 40 on it Seth. You know you want to.
Does a 40 have a tapered head tube?
The big difference on the seat lock is that if an thieve use an angled grinder to cut the lock (destroying it) he will have no seat to to ride!!!! Yes it is ugly as hell, but with a big appeal being integrated as damaging the lock, means damaging the seat.
Many stolen bikes are immediately thrown into a VAN or other car, so no seat is not necessarily a problem.
However, this lock does prevent the seat itself being stolen.
since its a folding lock you only need a nut splitter to break the hinges, angle grinders are for proper U-locks
@@sebastianjost Well it an extra thing of hassle. Stealing is about an easy payday, finding a new saddle is work and if thieves liked work they wouldn't be thieves. So this is still helpful, if other bikes of similar apparent value are available near.
Someone else probably mentioned this, but the spring on the Mongoose isn’t a steering damper, it’s to keep the front wheel from flopping around when it’s up on the kickstand. You see them on cargo and touring bikes that have heavy rear loads. Because of the location of the kickstand and the amount of weight on the rear of the bike, the front wheel will always be up in the air when the bike is on the kickstand. A flopping front wheel can cause the bike to tip over (not good for heavy cargo or touring bikes).
With the bike camera you haven't pushed the plug in enough, I have the same item and you need to push it until it clicks, you shouldn't see any silver from the plug. I used mine to keep an eye on my trailer. The screen isn't great but it's good enough to keep an eye on the kids.
3:47 - LOL just what I needed in my camera view at 8:30 am! :D Too funny.
Looking pretty svelte there Seth. Keep up the good work man. You’ve reached the point where other people notice. That’s a milestone.
I wanted to comment how happy I was to see another weird product video. Then I noticed when you talk to your wife, how much I enjoyed the humanity of it or whatever. Much like seeing cleetus build his house or MWTB Aron (idk how to spell his name, no disrespect.) then I read the comments and I realized how much the health aspect has to do with it. Good for you man. I have sobered up and double down on eating better/exercise. I’m on a path to being the happiest I’ve ever been, despite whatever mental heath issues I can use as an excuse. These videos help de stress and let me live vicariously. Thanks dude!
The biki camera thing is a great idea. I haul two Frenchies in a trailer. But, why not make it Bluetooth and send the image to your smart phone. It will cost more but it will be more better.
Bluetooth has a very low bandwidth.
I owned a Mongoose Envoy for a few years. Got it at the start of the pandemic. Added a seat for my kids and a handlebar and stem attached to the seat tube. Ended up using the bike for trail building as you can carry tools, chainsaw, weed whackers pretty easily. No issues with the drivetrain, and brakes were okay. Major pain are the hooks on the bags, they snap really easily. Otherwise, cant beat the value!
Hey Seth, it feels like your editing/scripting has become a lot slicker in the past couple of months. I don't know if it's a new editor on your team or you making a focused effort on adding more editing techniques to your own toolkit, but I think it's paying off for you either way. I do miss the little bonus clips that used to be at the end of videos, though. I liked how those contributed to the overall feel of the video, because it kinda brought the vibe back down to "Seth and one or two friends having some fun with a camera", which is still one of the best aspects of UA-cam as a medium.
That Mongoose cargo bike is fire for the value.
That seatpost rig that some kid invented is genius. Definitely needs to be patented and sold!
Thanks for this video Seth.
Can't wait for the full camera review.
The "Kid" with the 3D printer is someone to watch - he will change industries with his designs!
To paraphrase: "The best lock is the one you use." If I can't forget by bike lock, then I will be using it everytime. For a campus commuter bike, the Seatylock seems like a good idea. Granted I'm the kind of person who has a OneUp EDC on my bikes because I love things I can't forget, but I like it. It's niche... but in that niche, it seems pretty great.
I've been bike commuting with my seaty lock for years now. I love it. I dont have to carry a separately mounted lock or make sure it's in my bag before I go.
That mongoose is brilliant, although id probably end up sticking a cheap mid drive motor on it for getting it back up the hill to my house when loaded with shopping
I have a Mongoose Envoy I've converted into a kid carrier cargo bike and it's been so fun. The value is incredible. The only thing is that the tires started splitting and failing within the first few months, which was a bummer because they are nice big, plush 26.2.35" tires. The brakes are also not great and I already bought an upgrade brake system, but as Seth mentions, if you want to upgrade the brakes, you'll also have to move to separate trigger shifters since the stock levers are integrated with the shifters.
seth lookin jacked
The seat handle could be designed to help maneuver the bike while under load
The seat lock is genius and deserves a bit more credit.
- Great for quick rides when you don’t want to lug around a lock but might need to stop.
- Great as a secondary lock for more security.
- Practically hidden when you’re on the bike.
- Smack bang centre of gravity.
- Comes on and off super easily.
I’m sure they’ll improve their 2.0 version.
That Mongoose Envoy is $599 right now.
Yeah, and now I'm out $632. Mongoose itself might be the only place to get a M/L at that price. And free shipping. Did I really need another bike? No...
So glad to see that mongoose! I have been looking at cargo bikes but they all have motors!! And I’m looking to get a workout in! Glad to see it’s upgradableish.
That digital rear-view mirror is ridiculous, but what we really need are rear-view cameras that attach to the seat post and just record (no screen). Just have a memory that continuously overwrites the oldest footage. Would be great for commuting. Maybe integrate a blinking light to it.
You should have a look at the rear lights from Garmin. There are models with radar or a camera.
These have existed for a while 😉
I have that rearview camera on my ebike. I use it to keep track of my wife when are out together. And it isn't bad when night riding.
Love the energy and presentation of this video! And lookin' good Mr. Bike Hacks!
That seat is going straight on the Mongoose isn't it?
I like the rear view camera idea. If they'd solve the problems you discovered I would def consider getting one. Nice video BTW.
Seatylock: kinda takes the old "taking the saddle" way of preventing opportunistic thefts method to the next level. So the real benefit not really touched upon is that a thief that steals this won't have a secure seat. Not that big of an issue if they really really want your specific bike, but it might deter them from picking yours over the next bike in the bikerack. Thieves usually want an easy payday, so any hassle after freeing it up is effective, that's why thing like locking through the spokes where the valve is works well too; with the violence required to break it open, there's a good chance the valve will break, so more hassle afterwards.
That seat lock is sick. I wonder if instead of just the saddle, though, if they could just make the entire seat tube the lock. If you're going to have a proprietary tube anyway for the quick release, might as well use that space to fix the "ugly" part.
Surprised you didn't mention how much further forward that seat sits. It lines up with the mount vertically instead of at the rearward angle and there doesn't appear to be enough adjustment to deal with that.
I love how the bikes become more and more Dutch😂😂, we need a Seth exploring dutch bike stuff ❤
I think the rearview camera is a decent idea, it's just poorly executed. It's tough to get a perfect angle on your mirror without your body getting in the way of what you want to see. Might be good for commuting when you don't care too much about extra weight and looking like a dork. Someone should make a good screen that wirelessly connects to existing rearview cameras.
Did not wake up thinking about a penny farthing but now I can’t stop.
As a bike industry professional, I always dig these product videos! And am I seeing a slimmer Seth here???
Your healthy lifestyle choices are kicking into high gear. Respect.
The bike seat lock is actually useful. I live in an urban german area and see a lot of bikes with stolen seats locked up along the streets.
Hey Seth, great video...always informative. I've noticed you look healthier too. Good onya.
Just what I need, Freddie Prinze Jr reviewing bicycle products.
Now is a perfect time to do a collab with "The Lockpicking Lawyer"
Love also comparing different bikes on these videos!
I have the seatylock on my girlfriends bicycle because regardless of what you think of its look, it solves a huge problem with bike locks: where are you going to mount it? While also solving the major issue of most new bicycles sold in USA: saddles too narrow. For practical commuting purposes in lower risk areas, this is an excellent option.
Seth you look GREAT!!!! Job well done taking care of yourself! ❤️
Congrats on the 1 million.
i thought the mirror replacement would be something nice like radar so i laughed so hard when you said it's just a camera. 😀
The comments about surfing picture were especially funny 😂
@@sebastianjost yes
@@sebastianjost I didnt even notice until he said it. kinda sad that Im just that used to seeing these poorly photochopped product pics
The good feature about the seat lock is that if they destroy the lock they wont have a seat to ride off on and make a getaway
Yay new seth upload
Seth liking the seat but trying not to laugh really hard in that segment is great.
One potentially cool use for the backup camera would be if it had a starlight camera (super good low light performance) and you used it at night; You usually don't have a bright tail light so might be better than a mirror there. I'm pulling at strings here.
You've done great, keep up the good work!
I have a folding lock attached to the left side of the seat tube. Oh and a nice Cloud9 seat!🤣
I CANNOT believe you hit that staircase on the penny farthing lmao, absolute madman
A cool product would be a security camera that allows you to monitor your bike when you can't see it. I always lock my bike, but I would love to monitor it when I'm in a restaurant, store, etc...
Just a tip - you can use insta camera as a mirror: mount camera on helmet back and mount screen on bare
Good on you, Seth, for healthier eating habits. Later on,much,much later on, you will truly appreciate the changes. Thanks for all you do.
Just keep doing what yer doing man. Unreal. Love product reviews and loving cargo bikes. Goofy, look fun, and undeniably practical. Keep your head up. And also I have a hack of a bike stand. Would believe the kids block may work there too. I think I am using 2x4s and bike tubing...idea from your channel. Lol
I like the bike seaty lock AND the camera. The Seaty Lock is a good deal because if you want a decent seat and a decent lock, you're gonna end up spending $100 anyway.
And as for the rear view camera, I am all for it. I am on the bigger side, but even when I WASN'T big, I never had a good experience with mirrors. Put them on the ends of handlebars? They get smacked on something and broken. Put them further in on the bars? Enjoy looking at your arms and shoulders. Hang them under your handlebars to avoid staring at your torso? Hope you like looking at your thighs. Mirrors on bikes just DO NOT WORK. Gimme that camera. I'll tape a cardboard hood over the screen if I wanna see it outdoors.
Looking trim, buddy.
I have been looking at the Mongoose for awhile. I would love to see more
This is the point where I wish I had some kind of company that could hire that kid. He's obviously got some ideas and just needs the space to grow them.
The Mongoose bike looks good and it's nice to see a cargo bike which doesn't cost as much as a car.
I'd like to see a long time test to see how durable the frame and the components are.
The soft jaws look really great 👍
That insta cam is quality ... well thought out!
Lookin' healthier than ever. Nice job. Keep it up
That mirror camera is actually good.
Mirrors look lame. They stick up and out, you need to look down and to the side to get a small and restricted view of behind you.
The camera you glance straight down easily to see a full view of what's behind. Picture is more than good enough and also shows car headlights well at night.
They cost 170 here in Aus, I bought a second one. They do a good job...👍
More stellar reviews. Extra points for the dog content.
As someone who spends a decent amount of time in nyc, a lock that removes the bike seat is a good idea because if someone steals it, they won’t have the seat (assuming breaking the lock, breaks the seat) which would deter a surprisingly large amount of people who would just want to joy ride it for a few hours and ditch it somewhere
7:45 if you like the mongoose, you might like the Voltbike Kodiak, which seems to be the electric assisted version of the mongoose.
that lock seat seems like a good thing to send over to LPL and Mcnally to inspect
I can see Seth's way of eating has been working great!
As someone who got rid of his car an only commute with my bike, that Mongoose Envoy looks absolutely amazing! It's clear they spent a lot of time researching what people like me want/need because that bike ticks every box.
And as a owner Seatylock are AMAZING locks that come in all security rating. I never had any issues with and are built SOLID. I don't have the one shown in the video but I really wanted it as my secondary lock, sadly as someone who spend 6+ hours a day riding I'm VERY specific on my bike seats. I really love that concept. Wish they could/would make it so you could BYO seat.
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It's was sad to hear you echo the message that people should care what it looks like, its a seat that your either going to bit covering or using as a lock. You also should NEVER care what other people think and the worst part about the MTB community those kind of attitudes. It's very uninviting to inviting new people to become part of it (something your always amazing doing).
3:10 got to know your target for the lock, like you said to stop the opportunists it will be fine. The Lock Picking Lawyer not so much.
That seat lock is actually a good idea for city dwellers. Yes you won’t want to leave your bike anywhere for very long but it’s should be good for a quick stop in a convenience store or similar.
I added a handle to my long tail cargo bike, I think Yuba makes it, and while it's designed for what you were seeing the seat handle as being for, on such a heavy setup it's super handy just for moving the back end of the bike around.
I have a review bike camera similar to the won you are showing in this video. I didn’t install mines on the handle bars. I installed mines in the middle where you tighten down the fork and I have no problem with the video cutting off and on when moving it and I have no problems seeing the picture.
Seth looking slimmer! Good job keep it up
The young fella put alot of thought into that soft-jaw.
Well done mate🤙
Btw- You're looking good there Seth👍
Looking very svelte, Seth.
Keep up the good work
Camera looks good 🤙🏼🤟🏻✌🏻
i use that camera on my ebike, its more aero if u install it correctly and cooler than mirrors (don't wanna make my bike wider)
Looking good Seth!!
That mongoose looks nice, but no replaceable derailleur hanger is a red flag to me.
But the derailleur on it is almost always protected cuz of the storage racks
@@pantsu1265 It does kind of, yes. But you still are vulnerable to stones/sticks from the ground and (if you're unlucky) chain stuck.
@@rainerunsinn4808yeah, you are right. Red flaggg!
Why do you say it's not replaceable?
@@MichaelBylehn Because it's not. You can see this here at 08:23 or by watching on mongoose's website.