Music Theory - Minor Keys Explained - Chords, Scales and Function

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  • Music Theory - Minor Keys Explained - Chords, Scales and Function
    This episode is everything you need to now about Minor Keys and their Chords, Scales and How They Function. I discuss in detail all 3 Parent Minor Scales the Natural Minor, Melodic Minor and Harmonic Minor. I will show you the Triads, Seventh Chords, Modes, Scale Degree Names and Roman Numeral Analysis of each scale. The minor ii V i is also explained in this episode.
    * At 12:56 I forgot to include the vii diminished triad in the box in the lower right hand corner. It is correct in the chart. So it, should be the ii and vii chords are diminished in harmonic minor.
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  • @photoallergic
    @photoallergic 5 років тому +61

    I love watching this guy deep-nerding into music theory. You can see in his eyes how satisfying it is to him when everything matches perfectly within the model he explains, and because of his methodic style, my brain effortlessly sympathizes with his satisfaction. And that's exactly when your brain is in the best mood for learning.

    • @lx4302
      @lx4302 3 роки тому

      photoallergic exactly!

    • @abraxian7090
      @abraxian7090 2 роки тому

      This wonderful sickness is spreading

  • @gabrieltafarel
    @gabrieltafarel 7 років тому +114

    Thank you for existing, Mr. Beato!

  • @ultramother
    @ultramother 4 роки тому +13

    I gotta say it Rick, your channel is so important to me. As an office creature and family man, it's so damn difficult to work all these topics by books alone (..it actually makes u wanna cry out in desperation if you havent learned all the basic vocabulary as a kid)... You make it possible to integrate music theory into complicated adult lifes and I love you for it! Thanks, Max

  • @YuvalGuitaristBaruch
    @YuvalGuitaristBaruch 5 років тому +84

    Saving me 30,000 dollars instead of music school thank you!

    • @anonymousguitarist9096
      @anonymousguitarist9096 4 роки тому +1

      R u sure? What is pattern step by step on music theory

    • @benjaminking5708
      @benjaminking5708 4 роки тому +1

      He doesn't issue certification. But he is helpful.

    • @faridrosero6040
      @faridrosero6040 3 роки тому +3

      Go to school man

    • @JS45678
      @JS45678 3 роки тому +4

      The way i see it pal, if Rick saved you $30,000 on music school, send him a $29,999 donation and you are still $1.00 ahead! 🤠

    • @stacey_1111rh
      @stacey_1111rh 3 роки тому

      More like 300,000$

  • @Silsarsystems1
    @Silsarsystems1 6 років тому +1

    This was a "Master Class" for me, thank U so much Mr. Beato. God bless U and your family. To me, U are the best teacher there is.

  • @omarsaad4196
    @omarsaad4196 6 років тому +1

    Thank you Rick for this extensive explanation for the Minor scales, I think this is one of the best elaborations of the Theory in a UA-cam video.
    And thank you for the efforts in all your videos.

  • @treylem3
    @treylem3 4 роки тому +1

    The BEST CONTENT. I can't wait to go back over this. Thanks Rick B.

  • @LuisSilva-rk1ye
    @LuisSilva-rk1ye 6 років тому +1

    The Beato Book is amazing!!! Can´t thank you enough , Mr. Beato!

  • @martyisabeliever
    @martyisabeliever 7 років тому

    Thanks Rick! Tis clear to "C" there is nothing "minor" or diminished in your muiscal knowledge; and you certainly have a major gifting and ability to teach.

  • @arthouston7361
    @arthouston7361 2 роки тому +1

    I'm going to watch that first two and a half minutes several times to get all of this fire hose of info into my brain. I'm just digging into the minor scales now, so this is good stuff. Thank you for explaining these relationships.

  • @eoghanbishop9745
    @eoghanbishop9745 4 роки тому

    Great to be able to go back to this after watching the recent video on Modes of the Melodic Minor. Thanks Rick!

  • @bumhollow
    @bumhollow 6 років тому

    Thanks for posting this Rick, it is helping to understand.

  • @Abc-qs8ir
    @Abc-qs8ir 7 років тому +1

    Fantastic work Rick :)
    Your have an amazing grasp of music and how to teach it :)

  • @richardjordan6518
    @richardjordan6518 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you so much Mr. Beato! As someone who is self taught and grinding for a living in Nash.... your video has augmented my knowledge of music theory! I'm immensely grateful to God for this teaching and His Gift of Music! God Bless you!!
    p.s. I think Harmonic minor might be my favorite minor key. Can't ever go wrong colorfully when you have a half dim and a fully dim in the same scale progression hehe!!

  • @AlejandroBellizzitheperson
    @AlejandroBellizzitheperson 3 роки тому +18

    This is a great explanation for people who already know everything else about music theory. I am not one of those people.

    • @apokswitch6378
      @apokswitch6378 3 роки тому

      I found it great and I do not know everything about music theory. It made it click for me and I now understand.

  • @markvironda
    @markvironda 3 роки тому

    Thanks for all the knowledge Rick!

  • @hopetea7670
    @hopetea7670 Рік тому

    Excellent. BTW Rick's Beato book - well worth having - bought it earlier this year.

  • @lindareese4579
    @lindareese4579 2 роки тому

    Thank you so very, very much Rick!!!!

  • @legendofthestrings1
    @legendofthestrings1 5 років тому +1

    Hey Rick just bought the book. Checked out the first 20 or so pages I can pretty much fallow your guide but watching this video in relation to the materiel was very helpful in addressing most of my questions about the chapter. I'm not formally trained totally self taught. But always looking for perspective on how to go about learning the information in a meaningful way. But I see in some of your other videos you talk about this to some extent as well and I will be searching for that information next. I've been through the basics before but not really with this sort of approach from beginning to end.

  • @SB-dt7in
    @SB-dt7in 7 років тому

    Thank you for the lesson Rick!

    • @simonhumphries6200
      @simonhumphries6200 3 роки тому

      Is there an idiots guide to minor? This is exhausting (but brilliant nonetheless)

  • @kolkrabbi-io
    @kolkrabbi-io 6 років тому

    Thank you, such a good lecture! also the moment when half dim changed to dim off camera in Natural Minor Triads was funny, because I was writing it down from a screenshot, thought I was going theory mental!

  • @KennedysKitchen
    @KennedysKitchen 3 роки тому

    Thank you . . . what I find most illuminating is what can be known. Start, be consistent, do the work, step by step, work on what you don't know. Go.

    • @erik878
      @erik878 3 роки тому

      I got some plain english tutorials on my channel plus tons of classical music I wrote. I'm very ambitious hopefully you are too for music. No need to subscribe I'm just trying to make a change in culture toward classicism. In 21st century we have resources to be better than mozart. I can teach you to write symphonies rapidly

  • @IntoTheBass
    @IntoTheBass 7 років тому +2

    Academic and Artistic! - This guy is ''The Man!'' - See for Yourself.

  • @holidaygames
    @holidaygames 4 роки тому +1

    Would be cool to hear familiar musical examples in the background along the way for the main highlights - awesome videos thank!

  • @dpmahoney125
    @dpmahoney125 3 роки тому +1

    Ditto, wish I had more...thanks Mr beato

  • @pixelatedparcel
    @pixelatedparcel 6 років тому

    Man, these are the videos I like...Thanks for giving me my fix.

  • @donlessnau3983
    @donlessnau3983 5 років тому

    Excellent lesson. Thanks a lot.

  • @PMTluke
    @PMTluke 3 роки тому

    Thank you Rick as always !! Thank you !

  • @overtonesnteatime198
    @overtonesnteatime198 5 років тому +2

    please talk about the Neapolitan scales! theyre so interesting thanks rick

  • @handsomedagger
    @handsomedagger 3 роки тому

    Thanks Rick!

  • @coryhughespsu
    @coryhughespsu Рік тому +3

    Sometimes I think we should notate scales by their semitones. Semitone 1 through 13. Would be less confusing in the long run .

  • @frankmcnugget1511
    @frankmcnugget1511 6 років тому

    You are great. Thank you so much. New information

  • @ront8270
    @ront8270 3 роки тому

    Rick this is awesome I wish I could recall this as fast as you ......great lesson .....is this what they mean by a little theory can go a long way ....

  • @peaceandlove1876
    @peaceandlove1876 3 роки тому

    You are a gift Rick ❤

  • @jimsskot1
    @jimsskot1 3 роки тому

    Thanks. You are great Mr B 👍👍👍💪🏻

  • @acialist
    @acialist 7 років тому +1

    I have been waiting for this one! C:

  • @boldcautionproductions9203
    @boldcautionproductions9203 4 роки тому

    Learning piano, superb lessons.

  • @gadgscoastguitars7494
    @gadgscoastguitars7494 4 роки тому

    Finally the penny drops YAY (50 years on LOL) - I get it now. Thanks Ric. Love your shows.

  • @jonathanrojas2348
    @jonathanrojas2348 5 років тому +1

    Thanks really helpful!

  • @rishmatic
    @rishmatic 3 роки тому +1

    After discovering this theory repeatedly I was typing with my right to say this "I am doing the left hand legatos, as we speaks!
    Rick you have opened a portal to a musical dimension in my ears!"

  • @ShadamAran
    @ShadamAran 4 роки тому +1

    Hey Rick I really love these kinds ofvideos, I was a music Major for a few years but dropped out when I realized college wasn't for me. These really help me stay brushed up on my theory and answer questions that I have since forgotten the answers to. Question, when reading number charts, they are all written in major keys. It's it always safe to assume that any tune that starts on a 6 chord is minor?

  • @sergiocordoba4007
    @sergiocordoba4007 Рік тому

    Extraordinario de cuantas dudas salimos, con esta teoría que bien explicado gracias 🙂 👍

  • @RoshanDsouzaAngelore
    @RoshanDsouzaAngelore 4 роки тому

    Very near explanation you give.. Really good

  • @flowerbomb1156
    @flowerbomb1156 5 років тому

    amazing video. thank you.

  • @ChristianGARCIA-oi5sx
    @ChristianGARCIA-oi5sx 7 років тому

    Excellente Leçon et explications , Merci Rick avec tous mes compliments . Musicamicalement Christian GARCIA

  • @McPickleness
    @McPickleness 2 роки тому +2

    Omission around 12:58 - The ii chord is also diminished, but it is left out of the summary of harmonic minor chord qualities.

  • @rebeccapams8894
    @rebeccapams8894 3 роки тому

    Thank you so much sir ...this is what I. Looking for.👍😊

  • @BlackCee99
    @BlackCee99 6 років тому

    Thank you so very much.

  • @magnificentelectromagnetic7417
    @magnificentelectromagnetic7417 6 років тому

    good work, thank you

  • @Adrnalnrsh
    @Adrnalnrsh 7 років тому +159

    my brain

    • @lyrasimo
      @lyrasimo 5 років тому

      ikr

    • @Ned-ke3ui
      @Ned-ke3ui 5 років тому +6

      How does he remember all this theory A brilliant teacher though Wish I had this 30 years ago 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

    • @Kylielifts6379
      @Kylielifts6379 4 роки тому

      NedDontDrink Weedkiller Haha, look at his hair you think he knew 30 years ago.

    • @lx4302
      @lx4302 3 роки тому

      Ned 70 50 bc he studied this for years :D

    • @rik-keymusic160
      @rik-keymusic160 3 роки тому

      🤯

  • @VasilBelezhkov
    @VasilBelezhkov 7 років тому +14

    Mr. Beato, is there a video where you include the Biharmonic Minor Scale (1-2-b3-#4-5-b6-7), as well as the other Major Keys which differ from the Natural Major Scale (like Harmonic Major: 1-2-3-4-5-b6-7, Melodic Major: 1-2-3-4-5-b6-b7 and Biharmonic /or 'double harmonic'/ Major: 1-b2-3-4-5-b6-7)? It would be also interesting to compare the scales from the different degrees of the Melodic Minor with their equivalents from the degrees of the Melodic Major (for example: F-G-bA-bB-C-D-E-F is F Melodic Minor but it could be the scale build on the 4th degree of C Melodic Major which concists the same notes: C-D-E-F-G-bA-bB-C). The same can be found when we compare scales from the different degrees of the Biharmonic Minor with their equivalents from the degrees of the Biharmonic Major (for example: F-G-bA-B-C-bD-E-F is F Biharmonic Minor but it could be the scale build on the 4th degree of C Biharmonic Major which concists the same notes: C-bD-E-F-G-bA-B-C).

    • @CMM5300
      @CMM5300 2 роки тому

      Dble harmonic minor and dble harmonic major are both within the same parent scale.
      I learned it as Hungarian minor and double harm Maj is mode 5.
      Same thing with melodic minor and melodic major. Melodic major is mixolydian b6 the 5th mode of melodic minor.

  • @arunrawat3142
    @arunrawat3142 5 років тому

    Thanks you so much

  • @raingodmusic
    @raingodmusic 6 років тому

    Thanks man. Yyou are the best.

  • @Nivenization
    @Nivenization 4 роки тому

    Thank you.

  • @gavdobs
    @gavdobs 6 років тому

    thank you!

  • @andresdiaz2737
    @andresdiaz2737 5 років тому

    Thank you Rick, this is so useful. What would you say are the most common/useful modes out of both melodic and harmonic minor?

  • @katesummers5622
    @katesummers5622 4 роки тому

    Amazing!

  • @gilregev4823
    @gilregev4823 6 років тому +1

    :an eay way to remember the mode names
    Melodic minor is a Dorian bekar 7, so the IV is MixLyd # 4 , and so on.
    Harmonic minor is Aeolian with bekar 7, so the iv is Dorian #4, and so on.

  • @MegaMixking
    @MegaMixking 5 років тому

    most excellent

  • @danieleduardoramosmoreno4446
    @danieleduardoramosmoreno4446 5 років тому

    Super nich thanks a lot...

  • @gus3333
    @gus3333 5 років тому +12

    Where's the pythagoras theorem??

  • @TheAtheistworld
    @TheAtheistworld Рік тому

    Brother Ricky chiki!! So, chord fuctions are the same everywhere? It’s just structures of chords in different scales that differs??? Ur the best, Rick. Keep on rocking!

  • @PopPianoPerth
    @PopPianoPerth 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much, Rick! Your videos are always great! I've learned keys and chords a slightly different way when it comes to pop songs. If a song is in C Major/A Minor(natural), we can think about it being in both the keys at the same time. This way, we only have to know a single set of chords I,ii,iii,IV,V,vi,vii (CMaj always being chord I, Amin always being chord vi) instead of CMaj as chord I in some part, and when it switches to a more 'A minor' part of the song, Amin as chord i. Would there be any disadvantages knowing it this way?

  • @jimmpanik3402
    @jimmpanik3402 4 роки тому +2

    I need to go back a few lessons. You're WAY beyond my understanding of the material. I KINDA get it but not enough yet.
    Thank you for putting these lessons together.

  • @leondenengelsen1157
    @leondenengelsen1157 2 роки тому +5

    Hey Rick, something I've always been wondering. Does it make a difference, when playing or figuring out a song, to 'think' in major or to 'think' in aolian minor? Both have the exact same material and are parallel to each other. Why bother knowing the modes in Aolian minor when one can 'think' in it's parallel major scale. People refer to a song being in major or minor depending on an overal feel, starting or end-chord am I right? Why not say that the song is starting and ending on the 6th mode of a major scale instead of it being a song written in the (Aolian) minor scale? I understand that the modes are different with melodic and harmonic minor etc. but since major and Aolian minor are practically the same, I always tent to stick to the major scale and its modes. Love your content by the way!

    • @weily-why-lee
      @weily-why-lee 2 роки тому

      Been wondering the about the same thing. Seems to me that every song in natural minor is just a major key song starting on the 6th chord.

  • @jacom9223
    @jacom9223 5 років тому

    awesome!

  • @NelsonRiverosMusic
    @NelsonRiverosMusic 2 роки тому

    Thank you Rick, what tunes/compostions can I seek out with Harmonic Minor Harmony , Jazz, World music, etc.?

  • @Amazology
    @Amazology 6 років тому

    thanks for more awesome

  • @sisisjomax
    @sisisjomax 7 років тому +1

    Hei thank you for the video. Really helpful.. Can u make a video where u show this on a Piano? Maybe this (for me) difficult stuff is more understandable.
    Thank you really much for your great and helpful videos ;)

  • @ayepeemusic9543
    @ayepeemusic9543 5 років тому

    Hi Rick, Could maybe do one on writing modal and then what other modes could work with a progression in phrygian ect. Please and Thank You.

  • @modernman4269
    @modernman4269 4 роки тому

    Great video rock thank you is this coveted in the besto book ?

  • @sanamusic
    @sanamusic 29 днів тому

    You are the best

  • @JariSatta
    @JariSatta 7 років тому +5

    Dorian #4 is also known as Ukrainian Dorian Mode. (4th Mode Harmonic Minor)

  • @adozensparrows
    @adozensparrows 3 роки тому +1

    I never knew in the natural minor key that the 7th note was called the subtonic. I always assumed it was the leading tone. Thank you for the brushing up, Rick!

  • @marcoevans2155
    @marcoevans2155 2 роки тому

    I usually gloss over all the details like he did when I get home after sun-up

  • @michaeldepass1859
    @michaeldepass1859 7 років тому

    How do you categorize the "tonic", "predominant" and "dominant" chords in minor scales? Also, we often write in natural minor and then borrow the dominant chord from the harmonic minor scale. Can you touch on these topics and elaborate more about minor harmony?

  • @davemckay4359
    @davemckay4359 5 років тому

    I live in denton tx. Music is everywhere but i learn so mush noe

  • @krisjanisnoviks120
    @krisjanisnoviks120 5 років тому +15

    i dont understand any of the terms what am i doing here 😂

  • @gavinreid8351
    @gavinreid8351 6 років тому

    Minor, my favourite, add harmonic and melodic.

  • @Trioptic3D
    @Trioptic3D 7 років тому

    good info. thanks. what makes a pentatonic minor scale?

  • @skeeter197140
    @skeeter197140 4 роки тому

    Holy crap! Comin' in hot!!

  • @mohammedaboalborghol9213
    @mohammedaboalborghol9213 7 років тому +7

    on 12:56 , speaking of the harmonic minor you said there's only 1 diminished chord when in fact there are two " the second and the seventh "
    othere than that , its all good thank you for the lesson

    • @RickBeato
      @RickBeato  7 років тому +5

      Hi Mohammed-I just noticed that. I have it correct on the chart but forgot it on the window at the bottom. Thanks!

    • @RickBeato
      @RickBeato  7 років тому +1

      They are to the ear but not in theory. I will talk about that more when I do a video focusing on the Harmonic minor scale. By the way, great explanation to Mohammed. If you have been watching my other videos. You will notice that I left out all the sus4, lydian etc triads that I normally talk about. This was more about the chord, scale degree, roman numeral and mode connection.

  • @GLomaxUSA
    @GLomaxUSA 4 роки тому

    I'll go back and play my keyboard and review my notes. But, at 6:40 . I must ask - if it is Phrygian Augmented and not actually Lydian Augmented.

  • @frankmcnugget1511
    @frankmcnugget1511 6 років тому

    So got a question for you. On lydian, the submediant, the best chord for it is a maj7 #11 chord, you got any information about this in the minor scale?

  • @leejaybirdmusic9829
    @leejaybirdmusic9829 7 років тому

    Gah there is so much to learn about music theory. Is there some kind of course I can take or book to read that will take me from the basics through advanced? I mean besides college courses.

  • @joetroutt7425
    @joetroutt7425 4 роки тому +4

    Anybody?? Is the two chord always diminished regardless of key in the minor progression?
    Also, is the seventh chord in the major scale always diminished?

    • @CMM5300
      @CMM5300 2 роки тому

      You can combine all the chords from all 3 minor scales.

  • @SadisticKillerXx
    @SadisticKillerXx 3 роки тому

    So what are the functions? How each chord relates to the tonic? It's the same as major?

  • @jameskennedy7093
    @jameskennedy7093 5 років тому

    Is a simpler way of describing this to say that all the chords are the same as in major, except we're starting on the sixth degree? And if that's the case for minor/aeolian, is it also true for each of the modes? So in major it's I ii iii IV V vi VIIdim, but in aeolian we're just starting at the vi, and moving upward from there?

  • @larapalma3744
    @larapalma3744 Рік тому +1

    Clear as mud.
    Discordant mud.
    Yes I think I'll try music for dummies lol

  • @sallybowles2781
    @sallybowles2781 4 роки тому

    Is there a video where they play all these scales over and over? To understand well the differences

  • @markdavenport2613
    @markdavenport2613 4 роки тому

    13:56 Why is the V chord in Harmonic Minor a Dominant 7 flat 9? Diatonically, shouldn't it be a dominant chord? That's what's in the Beato Book. Not sure where the flat 9 comes in since he's discussing 7th chords.

  • @LearnerChess
    @LearnerChess 6 років тому +3

    I'm getting a bit long in the tooth (old), and I'm wondering how much music theory I need. Question: Would my two music heroes, Miles Davis and Neil Young, know all this?

    • @EclecticSceptic
      @EclecticSceptic 4 роки тому +1

      I suspect that Mile Davis would, dunno about Neil Young.

    • @freddie7981
      @freddie7981 3 роки тому

      yeah miles definitely knew all of this. He went to berkeley i think. He learnt a lot of his composition techniques off of people he chilled with though, because he felt that although knowling all of this was useful and thanked school for that, he wouldnt have gotten anywhere at all in music without developing his own compositional techniques.

  • @davidmurray591
    @davidmurray591 2 роки тому

    I was wondering why you break it into the function they have without the 7ths and then with the 7ths? For example in natural minor if we are using triads like at the start of the video then the ii is treated like it's diminished since it's got the flat 3 and flat5. But then once you move on and add the 7ths to the chord functions the ii becomes half diminished because the 7th isn't flattened again like it would be if it actually was diminished. Why treat the ii chord like it's diminished and then also treat it like its half diminished when you add the 7th? Why not make the 7th part of this from the start?

  • @thegroingringus2607
    @thegroingringus2607 7 років тому +1

    Uhh can I use a ii7 min chord in a minor ii-V-i like a modal interchange from Dorian type thing or is it 'better' to use the ii half diminished? Asking for a friend.

    • @GUIM1797
      @GUIM1797 6 років тому

      Using iiØ7 implies a pull towards a minor tonal center. That said, you can certainly use a standard "Major" ii7 - V7 to resolve to a minor chord (e.g. D-7 G7 C-7) AND you can do the reverse, a iiØ7 - V7 to a MAJOR chord (DØ7 G7 C∆7).
      Loads of composers do this interchange to make it "surprising" and I first learned it from Cole Porter's compositions.

  • @RicardoMarlowFlamenco
    @RicardoMarlowFlamenco 4 роки тому

    12:56.... no there are two diminished triads, ii and vii. Also the entire video is only showing chord scale break downs, nothing on the function of the MINOR KEY which is a single concept that uses all these scales plus other scales and functions.

  • @jamallinsey9233
    @jamallinsey9233 3 місяці тому

    At the 14:00 mark. The harmonic minor 7th chords. When he’s talking about The dominant. Where is he getting the flat 9 from? That “A flat?” If the 7th chord on the 5th degree is G,b,d,f why is it called a g7b9 when that flat 9 isn’t in the chord itself?

  • @JeremyHerman1
    @JeremyHerman1 5 років тому

    Holy fuck! I just figured something out.

  • @jasonmingus4343
    @jasonmingus4343 5 років тому +1

    This is all amazing an extremely helpful, but I'm curious if anyone can explain the why/how behind the harmonic minor scale's construction. How did we arrive at those chords? I can completely use all of this but I'm insanely curious as to the origin point.

    • @outlinegm
      @outlinegm 5 років тому

      I believe that to get the Harmonic Minor scale you don't have a b7 like you do in the Natural Minor Scale. (Natural Minor Formula = 1 2 b3 4 5 b6 b7 | Harmonic Minor Scale Formula = 1 2 b3 4 5 b6 7). So even though it only has 1 note that is different you have to apply that note to each chord in the scale that has the 7th degree in it. This is what makes them different and changes the chords. The reason the b7 was changed to a 7 was because it had a more pleasing (stronger) resolution to the 1 chord. At least that's the story I remember being told to the best of my knowledge.

    • @eldencheese8037
      @eldencheese8037 4 роки тому

      If you learn every scale and the intervals in each of the modes, you will see how the notes in each scale correspond to each chord. It is a process to develop the muscle memory, but you will see all fits together.

  • @_._gyokan_._
    @_._gyokan_._ 3 роки тому

    So if I build a harm. minor scale the modes associated with the scales will be the same regardless of what key Im in, right? And the chords, structurally, will stay the same?

  • @dmitryWeirdo
    @dmitryWeirdo 5 років тому

    Very cool, but isn't 2nd chord of harmonic minor also a diminished triad?